i never use straps! and i also use 25lb plates for more R.O.M and i work up to 250 at a bodyweight of 150. and im and only been doing these for 3 weeks now.
i never use straps! and i also use 25lb plates for more R.O.M and i work up to 250 at a bodyweight of 150. and im and only been doing these for 3 weeks now.
@metalhausakula you should stop on the floor..it's called a DEADlift because it is from a dead, stopped position. you don't simply bounce it off the floor. too many reps? wtf
@ n00bzor86 - There are a multitude of different ways to improve your grip strength. Plate Pinch Gripping, thick bar work, hanging from a thick grip chin bar, thick grip chins, thick grip wrist rolling, captains of crush grippers, or even as simple as always leaving the straps/hook grip/mixed grip until absolutely necessary. Although in the video I used straps I can deadlift 405 with a double overhand grip for multiple reps.
BTW the strongest grip (without straps) is either a mixed grip or a hook grip. Second strongest hand position is semi supinated or nuetral. The weakest hand positions are pronated with wide pronated coming up last.
Additionally, I've NEVER seen (working with 100's of athletes and powerlifters) a single person whose grip strength in the pronated position was adequate enough to handle the maximum load their musculature could handle on the deadlifts (particularly the snatch grip).
Neutral wins most of the time, unless for some odd reason that persons Pec Major is not as strong as that persons supinator. It's Neurtral most of the time.
Correct.
You are talking about two entirely different movements, that is one of the reasons why they break the Snatch down into a Wide Grip Snatch Deadlift and a Cuban Press.
With all due respect in order to achieve maximum muscle stimulation during the snatch grip deadlift for 99% of lifters requires straps. There are very few olympic lifters who train this lift without them (inlcuding those that are quite proficient with the hook grip).
@duntzcap Never like them and never used them, but the load is the #1 thing that makes you strong, so the more CNS uptake the more stimulation you get, I agree.
The greatest lifters that have ever competed were the Bulgarians and some other eastern block countries. For various reasons, which we are all aware of, I would like to see if they used the straps that often.
@mrceebees14 Lol I have never seen so much wannabe intelligent shit written on youtube, in like 50 posts.
Have you ever done olympic lifting? Do you know for what reason snatch grip deadlifts are done? Have you ever done the lift? Have you ever snatched heavy weights as often as olympic lifters do? Do you have any clue what you are talking about?
SG DL is done to increase range of motion, or to allow lifter to keep position in the snatch. Your hands will not last everyday SG lifting.
@mrceebees14 You answer with questions instead of answering mine, are you backing away? Yes increase range of motion. the bar moves a bigger distance when you use snatch grip - which is determined by what the person would use when he would be snatching (olympic lift).
Snatch grip deadlift can be used as a grip exercise specific for olympic lifters, but it most often isn't, because snatching is very hard on the hands, and they will not be able to take the beating.
@OMFGO Wrong, that is not how you determine grip for this lift. And ofcourse the range of motion from is going to be cut down with a wider grip, I never disputed that.
What was your question? I answered it, you asked if I ever competed and I said yes and even told you what I competed in and when. I also never denied grip strength for this or any grip, given the grip you are taking.
So I ask you again, what determines your grip for this lift? And why take this type of grip for this lift?
@mrceebees14 Sorry I misread that. You use this grip for snatching, because it reduces the range of motion, you have to "throw" the bar, if the grip was narrow, the lifter would have to get the bar higher. Your grip is determined by how efficient you are with the hook grip, and for snatching it will especially be the thumb, findex and middle finger strength.
Point is, it can be used for many things. Overall power, helping keep position in snatch, or grip power for snatch.
@mrceebees14 this guy is using straps, so I expect he has reasons for this, and there is no need to write that he shouldn't use them.
Is he training for olympic lifting? If he's not, he doesn't have to bother learning the hook grip. If he is, maybe he is trying to keep positions, but doesn't have problems snatching his one rep max -> no reason to be limited by his grip on sg dl.
@mrceebees14 this guy is probably using it for increased rom, for overall power? Or because he's a powerlifter and feels weak off the ground in deadlifts? I don't know, but he doesn't feel the need to be limited by grip to be important enough for him. Which is his choice, and certainly doesn't have be bad.
@mrceebees14 I don't understand what question that is. If you are using straps, your grip decides nothing. If you are not using straps your grip decides whether you can hold it or not lol.
Or are you asking how you find how wide your grip should be? Well it's called snatch grip, so it should be what the person would use for snatching - pretty wide.
@OMFGO Wrong, in order to know what you Wide Grip Snatch Deadlift grip is bright boy you would have to take a naked bar, raise the chest, internally rotate the shoulders and upright row to just under the nipples of the chest. If the Elbows are NOT facing the ceiling, the the grip needs to be adjusted.
That is how you determine the grip, if you want to do it the right way. Not just eyeball it like a meathead or SOMEONE who doesn't know what they are doing.
@mrceebees14 You're a pretty good troll. If you are serious, sorry you are just wrong.
Sg dl can have many uses, it doesn't have to be for grip only. Just accept the fact and don't babble how the user should have used straps next time. It makes about as much sense as if I wrote on a bench press video that the person should be doing squats, because it's better for getting overall stronger.
@OMFGO Not a troll, you asked and you were given the answer free of cost.
You insult but give no back up to what you are saying, there is a determining grip, but you have no idea. Instead like a 10 year old child you LOL LMAO ROFLMAO all over the place just for the sake of being a dick.
We are not talking about the uses of the lift, we are talking about the grip, way to steer off the topic.
The last jargen you wrote is just stupid, but I expect that from someone like you.
@mrceebees14 Wtf lol, elbows facing the ceiling is your way. Just like the clean it's about preferences, I like my grips really wide on cleans and snatches.
You use the grip that works good for you on snatches, one that allows you to snatch the most weight (provided you have some experience and not serious muscle imbalances), and then you use the same grip for sg dl... to keep it as similar as possible. If you are a powerlifter and you don't care, you just grip as further as you want for rom
@OMFGO It's actually Charles Poliquin's way, not my own, and the man has forgotten more then you will ever know about strength training.
The man has won tons upon tons of medals, coached teams at all levels to various championships etc, etc. How many have you won? Who have you coached? I can tell you don't know shit from shine about training because of what I told you about the grip, that is a very, very basic concept and normally someone learns on day 1.
@OMFGO off with nothing to show for it, just another loud mouth who thinks his New York Sports Club membership bestows on him all the knowledge of training in an instant as soon as they swipe your credit card.
I could care less what grip you use, that isn't the issue. The first response out of your yammer is an insult, people with knowledge don't have to do that, they just talk like grown adults, not like you.
@OMFGO If your gripe was about the straps, then you should have said that from the beginning.
You are delusional.
And everything I have said I have backed up, unlike you who talks out of his rear end. Instead your come back with "ummm errr ahhhh WRONG" And then give some noob lame answer that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand.
Go read a book, better yet, get familiar with Poliquins teachings and get rid of the 10 year old internet tough guy attitude.
@mrceebees14 What did you back up? What did I back up? I don't even understand the nonsense you keep babbling about.
You wrote in your 20 posts and were saying he shouldn't be using straps. I wrote he should he wants to. It's simple. Concentrate more on what people are writing and stop being so overly defensive, making 20 posts to win an internet battle.
@OMFGO I broke down the lift, as I did many posts ago to back up what I was saying. Why don't you go and try it instead of acting like a child. I wrote 20 posts because (unlike you) I backed up what I said thoroughly.
I guess where you come from they just pull things out of their ass and label it "correct."
If there is anyone over defensive, it's you. I didn't fling not one insult your way, you however started this conversation with one instead of talking it out like adults.
Let's say he gets 315x10 with straps, but 315x7 without, or 315x8
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Then I would say he was an idiot like you, because 315x10 or 315x8 is the same type of strength. 315x7 is a different type of strength where the % of your 1RM is higher. So your point is pointless, you obviously have no idea what you are doing.
Are you going to say that it was a major muscle group that failed him?
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More like his program did, which you don't have a clue about.
Where did I say he could only improve his grip strength through static holds?
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"if you wanted to train grip strength you'd do something like a static hold."
^ See that lame comment, that is why, which is totally wrong. You can work your grip static or in a non-fix position. Maybe your wrist is fucked up ha. I'm saying there's a perfectly valid reason to use straps in this case.
@mrceebees14 Where did I say he could only improve his grip strength through static holds? I'm saying there's a perfectly valid reason to use straps in this case. Let's say he gets 315x10 with straps, but 315x7 without, or 315x8. Are you going to say that it was a major muscle group that failed him? No, it was his grip. Prioritize the larger muscle groups, in this case by using straps. I'm not saying don't EVER work your grip, just don't limit major compound movements because of it.--accipiter22
3) Unless you have a real good reason, get rid of the straps, it's a false sense of security. If you need work on the grip, then get a pinch grip bar and start working on your grip that way.
@mrceebees14 I disagree, there are plenty of exercises that can be used to strengthen grip. Why limit something as important as your deadlift, because something relatively unimportant (grip) is lacking?
This isn't a grip strength strength lift; it's a deadlift variation. Using that logic no one should ever use straps for deadlifting. Using a snatch grip in this case lengthens the range of motion...if you wanted to train grip strength you'd do something like a static hold.
It'[s a dead lift you idiot. My bad I meant to say wide grip.
This is the precursor lift to an Olympic Snatch, but it's still a DEAD LIFT in the truest sense.
You can only improve your grip through a static hold? You are an idiot, grip strength is not only determined by forearm strength, it's determined by larger muscle groups. A dead lift targets that, and because of that the intensity for most people is normally a high percentage of their 1RM.
@mrceebees14 Where did I say he could only improve his grip strength through static holds? I'm saying there's a perfectly valid reason to use straps in this case. Let's say he gets 315x10 with straps, but 315x7 without, or 315x8. Are you going to say that it was a major muscle group that failed him? No, it was his grip. Prioritize the larger muscle groups, in this case by using straps. I'm not saying don't EVER work your grip, just don't limit major compound movements because of it.
That means not taking advantage of strengthening your grip with this lift is retarded. The weight is the most important component that determines strength. It determines the rep range and rest period. When you do a high intensity lift like this one, you take every advantage to get the most out of it.
on the pronators, which is why you internally rotate the Shoulder at the top and maintain that position so you can maintain an even grip. Have you ever done this lift? if you wanted to train grip strength you'd do something like a static hold.
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Really? Because the forearm muscles are a FLEXOR of the wrist and an EXTENSOR of the wrist which means full contraction of the forearm HAS to be done with wrist extension and wrist flexion. But you CAN work the forearms isometrically.
Guess what isometric lift would do that sweet heart.
A DEAD LIFT.
Take a look at the video, I don't think you ever have. The wrist is in a fixed, isometric position, contracting like crazy to hold the weight. With the straps on it's even more fixed.
1) Tuck your chin and raise your Chest before you go up. That will force the weight back onto the Hips and will stop energy wasting forward into the Knees and Hip Flexors which are already dominant in this movement.
2) Find out what you max is, unless you were doing that here, but it didn't seem like it because the last few reps you paused. Once you pause, the set is over unless there is an assigned pause, but I doubt that was the case here.
@49fortyniners lmfao
TheCcorbin666 2 months ago
@49fortyniners Exactly what was going through my head as well. Props to him
berryhill88 2 months ago
Nicely done!
RoanLauncher 7 months ago
Very good. But look up!
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i never use straps! and i also use 25lb plates for more R.O.M and i work up to 250 at a bodyweight of 150. and im and only been doing these for 3 weeks now.
brando1fresh 10 months ago
i never use straps! and i also use 25lb plates for more R.O.M and i work up to 250 at a bodyweight of 150. and im and only been doing these for 3 weeks now.
brando1fresh 10 months ago
@brando1fresh Yes, and soon you will have the lead role in Superman right?
pikken01 3 months ago
Whatever. That's what my grandma was lifting last week. Just sayin' :]
christlicker 1 year ago
Nice, I am a big fan of this lift as well
natedogstyles 1 year ago
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metalhausakula 1 year ago
@metalhausakula you should stop on the floor..it's called a DEADlift because it is from a dead, stopped position. you don't simply bounce it off the floor. too many reps? wtf
pumabooma 1 year ago
@ n00bzor86 - There are a multitude of different ways to improve your grip strength. Plate Pinch Gripping, thick bar work, hanging from a thick grip chin bar, thick grip chins, thick grip wrist rolling, captains of crush grippers, or even as simple as always leaving the straps/hook grip/mixed grip until absolutely necessary. Although in the video I used straps I can deadlift 405 with a double overhand grip for multiple reps.
fumuthaeffer 1 year ago
BTW the strongest grip (without straps) is either a mixed grip or a hook grip. Second strongest hand position is semi supinated or nuetral. The weakest hand positions are pronated with wide pronated coming up last.
Additionally, I've NEVER seen (working with 100's of athletes and powerlifters) a single person whose grip strength in the pronated position was adequate enough to handle the maximum load their musculature could handle on the deadlifts (particularly the snatch grip).
duntzcap 1 year ago 2
@duntzcap The mixed grip depends.
Neutral wins most of the time, unless for some odd reason that persons Pec Major is not as strong as that persons supinator. It's Neurtral most of the time.
Correct.
You are talking about two entirely different movements, that is one of the reasons why they break the Snatch down into a Wide Grip Snatch Deadlift and a Cuban Press.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@duntzcap Screw all the haters. What are the benefits of a snatch grip deadlift? Can it help my regular deadlift?
NPFfumbi 1 year ago
With all due respect in order to achieve maximum muscle stimulation during the snatch grip deadlift for 99% of lifters requires straps. There are very few olympic lifters who train this lift without them (inlcuding those that are quite proficient with the hook grip).
duntzcap 1 year ago
@duntzcap
So how do you get that grip strength if you arnt usign your grip?
Nice lfit btw
n00bzor86 1 year ago
@duntzcap Never like them and never used them, but the load is the #1 thing that makes you strong, so the more CNS uptake the more stimulation you get, I agree.
The greatest lifters that have ever competed were the Bulgarians and some other eastern block countries. For various reasons, which we are all aware of, I would like to see if they used the straps that often.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
'm not saying don't EVER work your grip, just don't limit major compound movements because of it.
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You have"limited" knowledge in general, who are you to give advice.
You have shown without a doubt you are just the average gym rat who knows shit about training and less about common sense.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 holy shit I've never seen so many comments by the same person on one page.
bingbang3214 1 year ago
@bingbang3214 Most of them were responses from other people.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 Lol I have never seen so much wannabe intelligent shit written on youtube, in like 50 posts.
Have you ever done olympic lifting? Do you know for what reason snatch grip deadlifts are done? Have you ever done the lift? Have you ever snatched heavy weights as often as olympic lifters do? Do you have any clue what you are talking about?
SG DL is done to increase range of motion, or to allow lifter to keep position in the snatch. Your hands will not last everyday SG lifting.
OMFGO 1 year ago
@OMFGO Competed Nationally in the US and in Europe in the mid-1990's.
Increase range of motion? Do you know how to even determine someone's grip in the lift?
Lets see if you know that much, this should be fun.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 You answer with questions instead of answering mine, are you backing away? Yes increase range of motion. the bar moves a bigger distance when you use snatch grip - which is determined by what the person would use when he would be snatching (olympic lift).
Snatch grip deadlift can be used as a grip exercise specific for olympic lifters, but it most often isn't, because snatching is very hard on the hands, and they will not be able to take the beating.
OMFGO 1 year ago
@OMFGO Wrong, that is not how you determine grip for this lift. And ofcourse the range of motion from is going to be cut down with a wider grip, I never disputed that.
What was your question? I answered it, you asked if I ever competed and I said yes and even told you what I competed in and when. I also never denied grip strength for this or any grip, given the grip you are taking.
So I ask you again, what determines your grip for this lift? And why take this type of grip for this lift?
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 Sorry I misread that. You use this grip for snatching, because it reduces the range of motion, you have to "throw" the bar, if the grip was narrow, the lifter would have to get the bar higher. Your grip is determined by how efficient you are with the hook grip, and for snatching it will especially be the thumb, findex and middle finger strength.
Point is, it can be used for many things. Overall power, helping keep position in snatch, or grip power for snatch.
OMFGO 1 year ago
@OMFGO Incorrect.
Try again.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 this guy is using straps, so I expect he has reasons for this, and there is no need to write that he shouldn't use them.
Is he training for olympic lifting? If he's not, he doesn't have to bother learning the hook grip. If he is, maybe he is trying to keep positions, but doesn't have problems snatching his one rep max -> no reason to be limited by his grip on sg dl.
OMFGO 1 year ago
@OMFGO Better research this lift more.
You came out of nowhere with insults like a 12 year old, now back it up.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@OMFGO Do you even know how to determine one's max? You put a-lot of "what if's" into the air, sounds like you are unsure of yourself.
How do you determine someone's max EVERY time.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 this guy is probably using it for increased rom, for overall power? Or because he's a powerlifter and feels weak off the ground in deadlifts? I don't know, but he doesn't feel the need to be limited by grip to be important enough for him. Which is his choice, and certainly doesn't have be bad.
OMFGO 1 year ago
@OMFGO You still did not answer the question.
WHAT DECIDES A PERSONS GRIP FOR THIS LIFT?
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 I don't understand what question that is. If you are using straps, your grip decides nothing. If you are not using straps your grip decides whether you can hold it or not lol.
Or are you asking how you find how wide your grip should be? Well it's called snatch grip, so it should be what the person would use for snatching - pretty wide.
OMFGO 1 year ago
@OMFGO Wrong, in order to know what you Wide Grip Snatch Deadlift grip is bright boy you would have to take a naked bar, raise the chest, internally rotate the shoulders and upright row to just under the nipples of the chest. If the Elbows are NOT facing the ceiling, the the grip needs to be adjusted.
That is how you determine the grip, if you want to do it the right way. Not just eyeball it like a meathead or SOMEONE who doesn't know what they are doing.
"pretty wide" nice determination
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@OMFGO I suggest the next time you pipe off to someone, you should know what you are talking about. My 5 year old at this point, know more then you.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 You're a pretty good troll. If you are serious, sorry you are just wrong.
Sg dl can have many uses, it doesn't have to be for grip only. Just accept the fact and don't babble how the user should have used straps next time. It makes about as much sense as if I wrote on a bench press video that the person should be doing squats, because it's better for getting overall stronger.
OMFGO 1 year ago
@OMFGO Not a troll, you asked and you were given the answer free of cost.
You insult but give no back up to what you are saying, there is a determining grip, but you have no idea. Instead like a 10 year old child you LOL LMAO ROFLMAO all over the place just for the sake of being a dick.
We are not talking about the uses of the lift, we are talking about the grip, way to steer off the topic.
The last jargen you wrote is just stupid, but I expect that from someone like you.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 Wtf lol, elbows facing the ceiling is your way. Just like the clean it's about preferences, I like my grips really wide on cleans and snatches.
You use the grip that works good for you on snatches, one that allows you to snatch the most weight (provided you have some experience and not serious muscle imbalances), and then you use the same grip for sg dl... to keep it as similar as possible. If you are a powerlifter and you don't care, you just grip as further as you want for rom
OMFGO 1 year ago
@OMFGO It's actually Charles Poliquin's way, not my own, and the man has forgotten more then you will ever know about strength training.
The man has won tons upon tons of medals, coached teams at all levels to various championships etc, etc. How many have you won? Who have you coached? I can tell you don't know shit from shine about training because of what I told you about the grip, that is a very, very basic concept and normally someone learns on day 1.
But you just like to shoot
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@OMFGO off with nothing to show for it, just another loud mouth who thinks his New York Sports Club membership bestows on him all the knowledge of training in an instant as soon as they swipe your credit card.
I could care less what grip you use, that isn't the issue. The first response out of your yammer is an insult, people with knowledge don't have to do that, they just talk like grown adults, not like you.
Get a book and get some mannerisms pal.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 Ok, I guess you are right, bye.
OMFGO 1 year ago
@OMFGO If your gripe was about the straps, then you should have said that from the beginning.
You are delusional.
And everything I have said I have backed up, unlike you who talks out of his rear end. Instead your come back with "ummm errr ahhhh WRONG" And then give some noob lame answer that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand.
Go read a book, better yet, get familiar with Poliquins teachings and get rid of the 10 year old internet tough guy attitude.
Grow up.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 What did you back up? What did I back up? I don't even understand the nonsense you keep babbling about.
You wrote in your 20 posts and were saying he shouldn't be using straps. I wrote he should he wants to. It's simple. Concentrate more on what people are writing and stop being so overly defensive, making 20 posts to win an internet battle.
OMFGO 1 year ago
@OMFGO I broke down the lift, as I did many posts ago to back up what I was saying. Why don't you go and try it instead of acting like a child. I wrote 20 posts because (unlike you) I backed up what I said thoroughly.
I guess where you come from they just pull things out of their ass and label it "correct."
If there is anyone over defensive, it's you. I didn't fling not one insult your way, you however started this conversation with one instead of talking it out like adults.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
No, it was his grip.
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So muscles pull bones all over the body.......EXCEPT where the hand attaches to the forearm. WOW!!!!! How did that happen?!?!?!?
You have no idea about biomechanics, or the science of reps and sets, keep jerking off with your "static" grip wrist.
Prioritize the larger muscle groups, in this case by using straps.
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Learn what program design is and how strength is obtained and you wouldn't have a grip problem.......NOOB.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
Let's say he gets 315x10 with straps, but 315x7 without, or 315x8
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Then I would say he was an idiot like you, because 315x10 or 315x8 is the same type of strength. 315x7 is a different type of strength where the % of your 1RM is higher. So your point is pointless, you obviously have no idea what you are doing.
Are you going to say that it was a major muscle group that failed him?
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More like his program did, which you don't have a clue about.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
Where did I say he could only improve his grip strength through static holds?
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"if you wanted to train grip strength you'd do something like a static hold."
^ See that lame comment, that is why, which is totally wrong. You can work your grip static or in a non-fix position. Maybe your wrist is fucked up ha. I'm saying there's a perfectly valid reason to use straps in this case.
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VERY, VERY special case, this is not one of them.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 Where did I say he could only improve his grip strength through static holds? I'm saying there's a perfectly valid reason to use straps in this case. Let's say he gets 315x10 with straps, but 315x7 without, or 315x8. Are you going to say that it was a major muscle group that failed him? No, it was his grip. Prioritize the larger muscle groups, in this case by using straps. I'm not saying don't EVER work your grip, just don't limit major compound movements because of it.--accipiter22
mrceebees14 1 year ago
he should have used hook grip
ChinaNite89 1 year ago
3) Unless you have a real good reason, get rid of the straps, it's a false sense of security. If you need work on the grip, then get a pinch grip bar and start working on your grip that way.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 I disagree, there are plenty of exercises that can be used to strengthen grip. Why limit something as important as your deadlift, because something relatively unimportant (grip) is lacking?
Accipiter22 1 year ago
1) He is using a pronated mid-grip, the strongest grip you can have aside from a pronated close grip.
--And--
2) This is a grip strength lift, wearing straps makes no sense and takes away one of this lifts primary focal points.
Anything else?
mrceebees14 1 year ago
This isn't a grip strength strength lift; it's a deadlift variation. Using that logic no one should ever use straps for deadlifting. Using a snatch grip in this case lengthens the range of motion...if you wanted to train grip strength you'd do something like a static hold.
Accipiter22 1 year ago
It'[s a dead lift you idiot. My bad I meant to say wide grip.
This is the precursor lift to an Olympic Snatch, but it's still a DEAD LIFT in the truest sense.
You can only improve your grip through a static hold? You are an idiot, grip strength is not only determined by forearm strength, it's determined by larger muscle groups. A dead lift targets that, and because of that the intensity for most people is normally a high percentage of their 1RM.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
@mrceebees14 Where did I say he could only improve his grip strength through static holds? I'm saying there's a perfectly valid reason to use straps in this case. Let's say he gets 315x10 with straps, but 315x7 without, or 315x8. Are you going to say that it was a major muscle group that failed him? No, it was his grip. Prioritize the larger muscle groups, in this case by using straps. I'm not saying don't EVER work your grip, just don't limit major compound movements because of it.
Accipiter22 1 year ago
That means not taking advantage of strengthening your grip with this lift is retarded. The weight is the most important component that determines strength. It determines the rep range and rest period. When you do a high intensity lift like this one, you take every advantage to get the most out of it.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
BINGO, you should never use straps, you don't need them unless it's for a very specific reason and it should be a valid one.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
This isn't a grip strength strength lift; it's a deadlift variation
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A dead lift is a dead lift, they follow the same motor patterns.
Using that logic no one should ever use straps for deadlifting.
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For a VERY specific reason yes, but you don't need them if you know how to train.
Using a snatch grip in this case lengthens the range of motion
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What? No it doesn't, where the hell did you come up with that idea? The hand position puts most of the weight on the
mrceebees14 1 year ago
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on the pronators, which is why you internally rotate the Shoulder at the top and maintain that position so you can maintain an even grip. Have you ever done this lift? if you wanted to train grip strength you'd do something like a static hold.
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Really? Because the forearm muscles are a FLEXOR of the wrist and an EXTENSOR of the wrist which means full contraction of the forearm HAS to be done with wrist extension and wrist flexion. But you CAN work the forearms isometrically.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
Guess what isometric lift would do that sweet heart.
A DEAD LIFT.
Take a look at the video, I don't think you ever have. The wrist is in a fixed, isometric position, contracting like crazy to hold the weight. With the straps on it's even more fixed.
You are clueless pal.......totally.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
I nearly forgot.
When do most people do a lift like this? In the beginning, middle or end of their routine?
The beginning right? When they are at their strongest, when they haven't done any lifts prior to this one that might have pre-exhausted them.
Get rid of the ego straps and get a block of chalk, costs $2.
I am going to start charging you for information.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
Not bad, just some advice if you don't mind.
1) Tuck your chin and raise your Chest before you go up. That will force the weight back onto the Hips and will stop energy wasting forward into the Knees and Hip Flexors which are already dominant in this movement.
2) Find out what you max is, unless you were doing that here, but it didn't seem like it because the last few reps you paused. Once you pause, the set is over unless there is an assigned pause, but I doubt that was the case here.
mrceebees14 1 year ago
To bad you could not beat Les in pushups!!!!!!!
enthralls 2 years ago
Too bad your back was as bent as the presidents morals
SilentWeazel 2 years ago
Great lift especially for your BW.
fumuthaeffer 2 years ago
not bad...now lets see some snatch grip high pulls
paul418cj 2 years ago
Nice rhythm and, although filmed from front, hip drive-extension looks crisp. Excellent!
tyrant1505 2 years ago