Re: Black women who perm, weave & wig don't hate being Black...

[thesassiest]

I dont have no hate for girls who chooses to perm and weave straight hair or "good hair". But wen u are a person saying black is beautiful, let it show. Excluding certain african characteristics is half stepping, and flawed. Black isnt completely beautiful in those cases.

[thesassiest]

It is a problem. Its about EXAMPLE, being a ROLE MODEL. How can your daughter or son believe kinky hair is beautiful wen ure rocking another race of womens hair specifically non blk. Or perming your hair. Isnt kinky hair jus as good to be flaunted as much as str8? Wat about natural weaves?

[thesassiest]

And a lost culture of how to maintain kinky hair and see the beauty and sacriety in the hair. Anceint blacks use to always say their hair was closer to GOD, it was a blessing to have kinks. Not a curse. Not putting dangerous ass chemicals is apart of DEPROGRAMMIN seeing the beauty of it is DEPROGRAMMING. Perms is like some asians hating their sqinty eyes. But did they always?

[thesassiest]

Do u kno how INSANE u sound BIG? How cud a group of people NOT kno how to maintain the hair growing out of their scalps? The problem here is mainly slave mentality, slave traditions. Stereotypes. Myth, propaganda. Thats the root of it all. Anytime bw wore wigs in the ancient days it LOOKED like their hair. Lock afro. Braids etc.

[blakkbandit22]

2) It's insanity to take hair from another community in attempt to make yourself look as another and making other communities rich/ wealthy in the process.

3) These women are damaging their hair. I've seen plenty of women whose hair are damaged to a large degree.

I understand the idea need to make yourself attractive, to feel good about yourself, but the fact is this monster is beyond a certain level of insanity to keep this up as long as black women have.

[blakkbandit22]

Gr8 topic Mr.Holipsism. Here's my take on this.

1) The cost. Black women themselves and Black men who date or are married and/or have daughters spend a fortune on products that aren't entirely necessary. Many are putting themselves in financial hardship just to keep these women happy.

[NeNaturalMature]

Its been a long road for the former African salve princesses of America...thank God we are learning our ways all over again and we're growing our hair long, getting in shape loving our families and so on. Going natural has changed how I feel about myself and I draw my strength and inspiration from other BF's that look like me...and that's natural. Only by the grace of God have i've been saved from looking outwards but finding my divine on the inside......GOD!

[Damadehierro89]

or some black female simp that think she is doing something by refusing to wear perms? I'm against weaves, black women wear them as a neccessity rather than occasionally;I find it ridiculous how black women will spend thousands of dollars for somebody else's hair. Instead of taking care of that dead ass hair, take care of your OWN hair! I've never heard the Kemet excuse but i always hear the "white women wear weaves too" excuse as though white women are a de facto standard for black beauty.

[Damadehierro89]

I dont care how Different you think you look-how different is your mindset?! I've encountered SO many black women who are these "natural" sisters that are dumb as a brick and just stepping and fetching it up! I see hair as a matter of individuality period rather than being placed in simply one box! This is MY hair and i'll rock it straight, kinky or whatever I choose! I've been Natural and i've went to relaxed hair so what!? What is under your hair? Are you a vanguard to the black community?

[Damadehierro89]

NOW! in terms of being Anti-Perm or Pro-Perm and whether or not it completely reflects self - hate, I would not completely say. I dislike this whole "natural verses perm" war between black women, I feel it is another division that we do NOT need. Many black women are not "natural" for the cause or in terms of anything they've learned...they're natural because it has become a TREND and this means of becoming "different."

[Damadehierro89]

The problem of NOT putting their child first over their needs and wants.

[Damadehierro89]

Personally, I feel that if MEN has something to say about it, then speak your piece! For any woman to say that men should stay out of it is damn near redundant and insulting since I guarantee most of these women saying that is having black men paying for that weave shit inside of your hair. I am VERY against any parent placing corrosive chemicals inside a child's hair! Its stupid, to put that inside their hair to make their job is 'easier' is selfish and I think thats a problem with blk women.

[Damadehierro89]

.....Let the truth be known, Black women wear Perms especially because of internalized oppression and self-hate. White supremacy has taught blacks to hate EVERYTHING about them from their hair to their skin color! Black women spend more money on weave than anything to achieve this non-afrikan look for the fact that they feel they will be able to compete with white women. It's a damaged mindset that has indoctrinated into black people, espcially black women. The case of the White daddy Syndrome

[newdiva1]

i think hair will for the most part always be a sensitive issue with women because despite what people say for most people...hair equals beauty. u might not mind a bald woman but I believe that u are an exception and they are few like you out there. Ok i'm done. Good vid though.

[newdiva1]

I have a guy friend that told me that he did not like natural hair and his womans hair has to be permed or straightened....how he said it....I can't front.....it hurt me. It hurt me as a woman who was worried about the type of reception that I would get rockin' natural hair. There are some cases where some women feel that they need to wear the perms and wigs because it seems that that is constantly what is being sold as beautiful no matter what the men tell you.

[newdiva1]

I sometimes think that that's how u can tell if a sista is ashamed of her african hair. If she will never allow herself to be seen without her hair. As far as alopecia and other conditions.....thats a personal thing. some women will not come on youtube talkin' about their bald head and their lacewigs because of the stigma that lacewigs have now that it's become mainstream. Not to mention just the societal reaction to black women and wigs.

[newdiva1]

hmmm...interesting. Well I can say I used to wear my hair according to what I thought men wanted but then realized u can't please errybody. I'm a sista that enjoys different styles period so I do wear wigs however. When i'm not rockin' hair I rock my bald ass head and luv doing it. I don't depend on my wigs for beauty. Now I'm not gone lie...I luv to wear my wigs. But I don't depend on them.

[000077415]

The majority of the Black race take on the looks of what ever Race are in power ..Only a small amount of Black people keep their Culture , preserve the culture for the lost soul ...

[bigaladji10]

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[knowledgeiswhatsup]

Jordan did not have a receding hairline, his was thin all over. He DID try to keep it as much as possible, but he had to let it go.

[Remedymp]

@HEAVENLYTRUTH1 LOL@shea butter!

[Sahbisun]

@HEAVENLYTRUTH1

It's not just hair weaves that make others rich. Negroes have a fixation with materialism that goes beyond a hair a weave. Shea butter comes from Africa, but Africans aren't making much of a profit off of it. Europeans are. Yet, African American women promote Shea Butter on yt, but don't get paid for the advertisement. They help to popularize it. ( Negroes are free marketing tools) Hair products is a booming business in general.

[Sahbisun]

@MrHolipsism

With so many women going natural these days, why is so much attention giving to the women that have natural hair issues, and not black women that embrace their natural hair? ( And why do so many ppl still reference a weave to white ppls hair) When in general it comes from India, or its synthetic? I only ask these questions, because the answer surely can be found in those kind of statements/actions.

[TetuaMaana]

@Sahbisun there are UK based businesses run by black people/Africans that sell shea butter. There's a black american youtuber who heavily promoted shea butter, sources it from Africans and sells it from her own online store. There are black business people out there. However, I understand where you're coming from.

[MrHolipsism]

@TetuaMaana Do you have the screen name of the youtuber? Thank you!

[TetuaMaana]

@MrHolipsism tonyatko

[muffinman5323]

when the person that is putting corrosive chemicals in your head needs to be have a mask one and a pair of gloves..maybe just maybe there is a problem?

[MrHolipsism]

@HEAVENLYTRUTH1 Thank you, Family! You definitely REP your name! ONE

[naturalself9]

One more sista say perm is more manageable, I'm punch em in the throat!

[MrHolipsism]

@naturalself9 Did I ever tell you how much I LOVE you? :-)

[TheBlackGlenBeck]

Nope, not me !

[nya2009scholar]

Weaves are a waste of a LOT of cash that could go towards more productive means.it is very much because of shame,at least where MY acquaintances are concerned,that women perm and weave.I base this on the comments they make about my hair and how they state that they could not ever go natural because everyone cannot get away with looking that way.It never enters their mind that it could be a matter of induced self-hatred.And for me to try to point it out, let's just say they fervently disagree.

[EzraYisrael]

I wear braids, weaves, wigs, head wraps, natural/permed hair, etc. Why do I wear it? It's simple: that shit is cute! LOL. There is no science to why 'some' women love to wear wigs or perm her hair.

Natural hair is AWESOME b/c I rocked my real hair for over 20 years & had no problem with it. It depends on the mood.

Also, natural hair is the BEST OPTION for Sisters hands down but what it ultimately boils down to is a choice. LOL @ "call on the spirit of rosa parks & ancient kwametic wigs"!

[BIGBKELtheGOD]

@EzraYisrael

I agree. In the end it is about choice. Why should anyone do what is not comfortable to them. The only thing that I have a problem with when it comes to Sisters hair is the economic and financial aspect. We should benefit from the hair care industry the same way that Asians and Whites benefits!

[NegusNigist]

Excellent & honest video! I agree 100%!!!

[msniekababy]

3. Sometimes you would have never thought something was wrong with you until someone points it out and teases you about it, so many lil girls that get teased for having bald headed nappy ass hair, as a lil kid ur not always strong enough to just ignore it, i got teased when my hair was nappy and it was nothing but compliments when i fresh form the shop. not only that but we are the only ones w/ hair like this and sometimes u dont want to be different especially when ur a kid trying to fit in

[msniekababy]

two, a lot of our black mothers don’t know how to properly comb thru afro textured hair, raking the comb thru rips the hair out and is very painful and traumatizing, it’s a video here on YouTube showing a black woman combing through her daughter’s hair and the little girl is screaming and crying like she’s being killed, now that can definitely cause you to hate you hair, and its much easier to rake that comb thru if you have a perm

[MrHolipsism]

@msniekababy I saw that video and it infuriated me. The problem is the concept that a comb has to go through your hair to begin with. I don't have a comb in my house. Thick textured Black Afrikan hair doesn't need to have a comb go through it and as soon as our women collectively get this we are going to have even more little black girls screaming in pain because their mothers are trying to put the square peg in the round hole.

[nya2009scholar]

@msniekababy There are products sold in stores that can soften the hair and make it more manageable... perms are not the only solution...

[msniekababy]

instead of always addressing the effects I think the causes need to be looked by answering the question u posed in the video. why do so many black women hate their own hair?.. b/c most of the natural sisters today had to go natural, very few of us were natural from the beginning or b4 it was “trend”. it all goes back to childhood. for one, most of us got perms b4 we had control over our own hair. my sister got a perm at 2, me at 5. that teaches u that your hair is wrong and it needs to be fixed

[MrHolipsism]

@msniekababy AMEN...RA!

[JolliAli]

i just wanna be clear ... i said Black men need to shut up about Black women's hair because its not helping ... i didnt say it has nothing to do with you ... i also said that when men discuss this topic it would better serve this community for them to address their part

[MrHolipsism]

@JolliAli That I definitely agree with, Sis.

[TheBlackGlenBeck]

@JolliAli

I disagree! Again, you speak about BW as if they are dying from cancer and should be dealt with using kid gloves! Why cant these strong independent women stand before the world and accept responsibility for destroying Blk beauty, BW dont hesitate to tell the world what they think about BM. Why does everything regarding BW need to be silenced? The convo about child support, white men, DL, etc, can be open to the world..but weave, we cant talk about that! Gtfoh!

[DiScUrNmEnT]

what is real man? A real man is any human being that has testicles and male biological anatomy. Now being a unproductive, or irresponsible man is only a characteristic of a man. All men are real men. Do you say "if your were a real lion or a real giraffe then the jungle would be protected". What is a real dog or real cat? LMAO.

The Malcom X era is an example when men gave up the perms that turned their hair auburn, when they wanted to assimilate white men. Black men gave it up 50+ years ago.

[DiScUrNmEnT]

There are hardly any women with alopecia and chemical burns. That number is less than 1/4th of a percent. My sister and I owned salons and I worked for Paul Mitchell for over 10 years and that is just a excuse to combat the reality of traditional conditioning of self hatred. Self hatred may not be internalized by an individual, if it is traditional from their ancestors. So they don't see that the self hatred was passed down and done for a purpose that has be lost and transformed to normalness.

[MrHolipsism]

@DiScUrNmEnT HELLO

[muffinman5323]

@DiScUrNmEnT 1/4 of what percent?

[DiScUrNmEnT]

@muffinman5323 OF A "PERCENT" key word "A" . duh. 

[muffinman5323]

@DiScUrNmEnT thats not even answering the question the only key word here is that your a fucking idiot...throwing around terms like 1/4 of a percent without giving the dam percentage is asinine..tell me did your hair salon even succeed? becuz if it did that would be hard as all to believe.."There are hardly any women with alopecia and chemical burns. That number is less than 1/4th of a percent. " how the fuck does that make any sense without giving the number of that said percentage again?

[muffinman5323]

hell***

[muffinman5323]

@DiScUrNmEnT maybe the all those corrosive chemicals in your head finally got to your brain?