T34-85 in Tali Ihantala 1944 part 1

[subzero92MK]

nice

[kimskis]

ain't it funny how small Finland kicked soviet asses big time, yet The Great 3rd Reich failed to deliver...finns must be the best fighters of all time - even when all odds are against them, they still stand tall and undefeated. Respect from Lithuania here...I wish my countrymen had as much balls as you guys

[N5505KD]

Are these two going to Afghanistan?

[viktor19ss]

жалко что СССР развалилась ((

[vedlund]

@viktor19ss

Stalin's plan was to conquer Finland. The Battle of Tali-Ihantala persuaded him to abandon that plan. He confirmed that in private talks with the Finnish general Heinrichs in 1947. Obviously official Soviet history had to make up a bundle of poor excuses for the Soviet failure to conquer Finland...

[McLarenMercedes]

@druddock

Correct about the myths. I agree and I am a quarter Finn myself. My great grandfather fought in the Winter War and the Continuation War. Although I am glad Finland defended its independence, rather than becoming another vassal-state like most of Eastern Europe (Yugoslavia and Albania were independent from the Warsaw Pact), I know many Finns today still believe the extremely exaggerated victory claims (made for moral purposes during the war) to be true.

Correct about Serbs too.

[Imppilz]

@druddock

Granted we lost, but got our asses kicked? What the hell are YOU talking about? If you talk about the winter war you are right that international pressure (after total military HUMILIATION!) the soviets won the war. Tell that to the soviets still on the battlefield...

Not so long ago you won a war in Asia.. Only that you left some hundreds of thousands dead allies behind as well as a economic crisis.. "Kick ass" seems to mean very different things :)

[9834759]

Atleast occupation of Helsinki was Stalins coal but it never happened. Taking over Leningrad was NOT Finlands coal. Finland didn't actively participate in the siege. Finnish planes didn't bomb Leningrad and German troops weren't allowed in Finlands territory of the front.

[Spiritt1000]

ослы вы еще будете у Росии сосать леч через 20-30.

[226dino]

these tanks are scary looking i wish i could drive one it would be fun to kill stuff with it.

[aaKonda]

Do you think killing is fun?

[226dino]

@aaKonda maybe

[aaKonda]

In that case, you are mentally ill.

[Zyskowiczz]

Man you make me sick!

[petrwarry72]

hi guys , what other finnish war films would you recomend me, please?

talvisota and jatkosota are great

thanks / kiitos

[leksss4]

have you seen Rukajärventie movie?

[MilitariaMan]

@petrwarry72 Tuntematon Sotilas is a classic finnish war movie. There are 2 versions of it.

[BalashovM]

T-34 is best Russian tank in time of WW2 :) Fast ang strong :)

[dulle3000]

yes the best russian tank. of course. but do you know the tanks of mr. porsche?

[BalashovM]

No, I don't. Please , say, where can I fint information about it?

[484442pt]

First - yes. Second is Czech-built T-34 with smooth turret. From FINNISH source dude!!

[484442pt]

And also made between 1952-56 in Poland(Bumar-Łabędy) and Czechoslovakia(CKD Sokolovo later ZTS Martin) under license!! about 4,500 were made for Polish, Czechoslovakian armies and exported to East Germany, Bulgaria, Romania, Syria and Egypt!!!

[ss90ss444]

"this t-34 isnt czech! this was built in some factory or russia"

T-34-85 is a Czechoslovak variant of the T-34 medium tank, you stupid idiot. Learn facts next time before you open your ignorant mouth.

[484442pt]

Well... uh... T-34-85 were introduced in 1944... Manufactured in USSR (1944-50 )

; Poland (1952-56) and Czechoslovakia (1951-57)

[TheVirusOddball]

The T34/85 was basicly a T34 with a three man turret and a 85mm gun. Introduced in 1943, in Soviet Russia.

Not in Czechoslovakia. Though I do not know much of licensed produced postwar T34 tanks. Listen to 484442pt, he aint that stupid. YOU should learn some facts before you open your ignorant mouth.

[484442pt]

the 2nd T-34 is Czech-built tank. How many Czech T-34/85 were used in Finland?

[elsephi]

those tanks look cool

[dulle3000]

really? do you know mr. porsches tanks? - no?

[elsephi]

wtf?

[TheMilari]

tigers

[tuhozer]

actually we started continnue war because we wanted those area's back wich we lost to red army during winter war

[WerQ0HerQ]

OMG FUCKING RETARD!!!

[finaus15]

you are a total idiot.Better go back to your books and read before you post crap like that.

[Baboosi1]

Cool.

[RotatorOfMadness]

petrwarry, all those 2 finnish made KV-1 replicas are build undercarriage of T-54 :) Pretty nice work, when I saw those replicas first time, they really tricked me out bad :D

There's actually two or three KV-1 and one KV-1E tanks in Parola tank museum in Finland. Those tanks are captured from soviets during continuation war, but they can't take part of any movies because of their engine and transmission problems. Too expensive ones to repair I fear :(

[petrwarry]

is the KV1 tank in this jatkosota film some finnish version with different undercarriage and wheels or replica? thanks / kiitos

[Kricke73]

Mickey Mouse : )

[petrwarry]

i thought that mickey mouse was t34/76 with latest turret , anyway 5 *****

[Kaarlo]

Hauska juttu tässä videossa, tuon jälkimmäisen T34 malli on liian uusi tuolle ajalle. Noita vaaleamman vihreää vastaavia tehtiin Tsekkoslovakiassa vielä 1950-luvulla, kuitenkin muistaakseni aikaisintaan 1952. Kyseinen yksilö on todennäköisesti Salpakeskuksesta Miehikkälästä ja on vm 1953, ellen aivan väärin muista.

[tumppo88]

Kaipa sen tarkoitus on esittää 'T-34 raskasta', jossa on muuneltu torni ja järeämpi ja pitkäpiippuisempi tykki. (sellaisia saati ainakin pari saaliiksi).

[KINGD1991]

the legend keep on rolli'n :]

awesome tank.

[mastersofdeath6691]

Here on youtube:

Search this:

Tali-Ihantala 1944 1/12

[tranmere789]

In army many years ago i saw these tanks and really wondered how little men these tank soldiers had to be. Though it was rather good tank finns won tank battles - Stug III versus T-24/Js-1 propably by 1:20, cos they destroyd 87 tanks and lost 8. And not all lost tanks were destroyd by enemy tanks.

[Izverg2]

Бля давно мы уже в Прагу не наведывались!=)

[Milanwhatever]

World should never forget how you finns kicked ruskies in their stupid red asses and follow such example. Nice movie btw :)

[ScrubsM16]

Not only did they kick the commies out- but, once they got sick of dealing with the Germans, they kicked them out too!

[hgu001]

Kicking out the Germans was part of their deal with Stalin. Finns and Germans regarded each other as friends. The Finns and their army stood in high regard with the Germans as far as I know this was virce versa.

Regards,

Horst-Germany

[gurra12]

ur right . germans helped finland against russia both army way and financial .

[TissiHitleri]

@hgu001 Some friends. That Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact and the spheres of influence were practically a "go ahead!" for the winter war. Outcome was not expected nor wished for at Berlin.

[DinoPal]

@Milanwhatever The Finns LOST the Winter War against a Soviet army that had just been crippled by Stalin's purges. They LOST, do you get it? LOST!

Before that, they were Russia's bitches for over? 200 years. And before that were Sweden's bitches, bitches!

[9834759]

@DinoPal

Winter War: Fin casualties 25 000, Soviet casualties 126 000.

Continuation war: Fin casualties 58 000, Soviet casualties 200 000.

Soviets won because of quantity, not because of quality.

Great victory for SU?

Also, there is nothing glorious about bigger countries dominating smaller ones. Don't take pride on that. Finland got disattached from your "great" nation a long time ago. Stop living in the past.

[DinoPal]

@9834759 You know Soviets could slaughter them to make it even, but did not, so luky Finns. They really good at sneaking in the bushes with machine guns, even fool Hitler to believe Soviets are easy meat, but we know what happened to Nazi Germany. Like i sad before - Soviet army had been crippled by Stalin's purges. Try that now - brave armchair expert.

[9834759]

@DinoPal

Sure they "could have", but for too great cost (of lives, recources etc.). So they made the right decision not to. They started the war against Finland but did not reach their coal.

Finland was in a lose lose situation, but against all odds, was never occupied.

And what do the Stalins purges tell us about the whole SU? Nothing wery positive.

This isn't about my bravery or expercy. I wasn't there and neigther was you.

Finns don't want to "try that" now. And they didn't want it then.

[HMCS1997]

@9834759 Not sure if occupation of whole Finland was actually Stalin's goal but he still archived to take significant territory and economic assets from you. Granted, Soviet victory came at high cost. However, I'm not sure what 'quality vs. quantity' you talking about after you along with Germans could not take Leningrad for 3 years having tremendous advantage in everything.

[vedlund]

@DinoPal

Google "Suomussalmi", "Raate" and "Tolvajärvi"....

[McLarenMercedes]

@9834759

True. But you must also remember that the SU was mainly fighting Nazi Germany.Practically all their men, tanks, heavy guns and planes were driving the huge Axis war machinery out and back into Germany.

Finland was a "secondary front", and once Tali Ihantala was a failure for the SU, Stalin decided Finland was not worth the effort,so he made peace with Finland

I am proud Finland did so much with so little troops and equipment, being part Finn myself. Also Finland got no Marshall aid

[ljlassi]

@McLarenMercedes Partly true. Russians had pulled some heavy equipment already back, as the offensive was planned to stop on Kymijoki. But, there were few heavy battles after Tali-Ihantala (Äyräpää for example) and the situation was still tight.

Off course Finland would not have made it from full attack of Red army, but as Finland is almoust fully forested and really big land area i think there would have been much guerilla warfare even after the main army would have been destroyed.

[vedlund]

@McLarenMercedes

Finland was no "seconday front" in June 1944. It was the target of a full strategic offensive from the Soviet Army - that failed. Booh sucks to you Ivan.

[kaahaajaFIN]

@McLarenMercedes Sorry to tell you, but Finland was the main target of USSR. About 1 million Russkies fought at Tali-Ihantala.

[3dimon3]

@Milanwhatever Very Funny to know that defence line of Finns was created by Russian talanted general Manerghejm , and of corse low equipment and winter , after that example i think Gitler Invade Russia , but this mistake was learned and in Russia was army reformation after that conflict , if Gitler not Envade after 2 or 3 years Stalin will invade germany - historical fact ;) Thats why Gitler strated 2 fronts

[steelhelex]

@Milanwhatever You mean 1944 LOL

[Tubesherep]

@Milanwhatever А Америка всех уже отебала у кого нефть есть ))) почему ты на них не гонишь даун... убили 3000000 мусульман

любая Империя имеет мелкие страны для своих интересов

[KINGD1991]

check out my Wood model of the T34-85

[BlizBob]

Minulla onkin metallista tehty lelu sotka joka on valmistettu neuvostoliitossa.

Häh häh hää...

(säälittäväää)

[laupiaslammas]

mitäs sie semmosen? miul sammanlainen kui toi

[radek98k]

Ich sprache deutch, etwas englich. Ich komme aus Polen.

[eduarddietl]

Heh, tuon Sotkan luukuthan ovat pyöreitä ja kun ne on avattu, näyttää tankki aivan Mikki Hiireltä. Saksalaiset kuulemma veistelivät tästä yksityiskohdasta vitsiä alinomaa. :) Kapitalistisymboli Mikki Hiiri neuvostoarmeijassa...

[Infotiimi]

Tuo muuten on ihan totta :P Terävä havainto!

[3819oli]

oh well, i am a tank nut, i just know more about the german.

[slopedarmor]

me too  ;)

[3819oli]

where is the drive wheel on a T34, as i cant see any sprocket teeth on the wheels.

[slopedarmor]

hmmm and you call yourself a tank nut ;) the t34 has a not normal drive sprocket, it's sprocket doesn't use holes in the track like normal tanks, but it uses the track guide teeth. See one of these pics:

h t t p : / / w w w . b i g t a n k s . d e / s i t e / b i g t a n k s . h t m

[3819oli]

i never said i was a tank nut thank you very much, but thanks for the reply

[slopedarmor]

hmmm at another movie I remember saying something about you being a tank head or something.

[slopedarmor]

whoops on that site click on the 1:4 t34 and than you should see a very obvious picture of the sprocket meshing with the tracks.

[radek98k]

hi all. czołg T-34 dla jakiś rumunów? chyba dla rusków i polaków. Poszukoje czołgu T-34 do kupna. Stan dobry. Mieszkam w POLSCE (POLEN)

[ricboots]

speak english, ape !

[MokomaSusi]

Whats your problem?

[1sissi1]

who is ape ...

he can speak finnish cause this is from finnish movie

[Marsikus]

>>>speak english, ape !

Shut up, nazi, or these T-34s will come to you! >:0

[aleclitvinov]

Suomi rules!

[verkennertje]

hyvaa suomea jaa niina

[valttu94]

niinpä suomi rule 4-ever

[Team4omena]

noi Sotka tankit on saatanan rumia

[isokessu]

mitä sil on välii et onks panssarivaunut rumia vai ei? Niillähän kuitenki vaan jyrätään tyyppejä ja ammutaan taloja yms.

[IHaveTheFrozenThrone]

puna-armeija sai kunnolla turpaan =)

[Kassiori]

mistäköhä ne on saanu noin paljon ikivanhoi sotka tankkei ku niitähän pitäs olla enää vaa muutama suomes jäljel

[FINhenu]

niitä ne just käytti

[ojahauki]

Suomella näitä on museoissa monia ihan toimivia ajokunnossa ja iso rivi toimintakyvyttömiä jotka pienellä laitolla saisi ajettavaksi, kuten talvisota elokuvassakin oli moneen tyhjään T26 hylkyyn laitettu auton moottoreita että saatu ajettaviksi.

[DuDWtF11166662727]

Paska leffa oli, liikaa hahmoja, minuutin kertoo yhdestä sitten hyppää toiseen. Äärinationalistit kyllä voi tosta saada kiksejä, mutta talvisota elokuvana on aivan toisella tasolla vaikka vanha onkin. Samoin lähinnä huvitti kohta missä saksalainen upseeri sanoo että he taistelevat suomen vapauden puolesta. ---------------> VITTU LÄS FINDLANS HISTORIA FÖRST!!!!!

[ext3reme]

Mitä odotit tunnin lyhyemmältä elokuvalta kuin tuntematon sotilas ja elokuva on tehty nykyaikaiseksi päättömäksi räiskintäelokuvaksi.

[felixzs]

see why the germans called this the "micky mouse" tank ahah!!! its the ears

[nl1nk]

looks pretty nice!

[Buffik2000]

Как новенькие!

[ComradeSap]

EXACTLY!

[Buffik2000]

Сербии привет! Счастья,мира и процветания!

[goraltch]

Timo1595 you're forgetting the Pz III, which saw heavy modifications throughout the war and lots of action. Also a good tank, like the IV V and Tiger.

The whermacht started out the Russian campaign having absolutely nothing which could match the T-34. Not even talking about the heavy KV tanks, without air superiority the whermacht would have been routed long before december 1941

[timo1595]

Ja suomeksi vielä. Tiger I ja II olivat hyviä mutta niiden valmistus oli aivan liian kallista. Niitä tehtiin yhteensä vain 1840 kpl. Esim. StuG III valmistettiin yli 10 000 ja Panthereita n. 6000. Yleisin vars. panssarivaunu saksalaisilla oli Pzkw IV.

[timo1595]

The importance of Tiger I and Tiger II is big myth. Germany built up only 1355 Tiger I tanks. And only 485 Tiger II. But Sovjet Union built up more than 30 000 T-34's. The most common german tanks were Pzkw IV, StuG III and Panther.

[WaroftheGalaxies]

Well according to the stats of the Panther. I would consider that to be the best tank of WWII. The Tiger is way overrated. The Tiger would just annihilate light tanks, and light-medium tanks, like shermans. They sucked against T-34/85s, and many other medium-heavy tanks. The Panther on the other hand, could handle anything... 110mm Armor (Greater then Tiger), and a powerful long-range armor piercing 75mm cannon. Not to mention it also had slope-armor like the T34s.

[tonidmc]

The Best tank and well designed is The Panther, but was very complex machine to work always properly

[vassilimosin]

fuckin netherlains dont now wat a tank is a tiger 3 cant bet this t-34. the t-34 was a gift of god we should prase it

[Lepa89]

hyvä leffa oli

[pelipom]

Paska leffa oli, liikaa hahmoja, minuutin kertoo yhdestä sitten hyppää toiseen. Äärinationalistit kyllä voi tosta saada kiksejä, mutta talvisota elokuvana on aivan toisella tasolla vaikka vanha onkin. Samoin lähinnä huvitti kohta missä saksalainen upseeri sanoo että he taistelevat suomen vapauden puolesta.

[Halofani2142]

Eikös nazeilla ollut se oikea maan kauhu.

Tiger II.

[jarva89]

En kyllä yleensä kehu mitään mikä liittyy venäjään/neuvostoliittoon, mutta pakko sanoa että on ne ihme vehkeitä kun vielä riiselit kirnuaa.

[BASSMANN2007]

Уррааа!!!! Наши!!!

[IconOfSin88]

Hakkaa päälle, pohjanpoikaaah!

[SomeoneFin]

it must be cool to drive a tank

[HansB1]

You need to shoot this video again, but with tank crews in the hatches, riders on the back, and accompanying infantry. Otherwise, I loved it !!

[The2006Mets]

Great Tank,one of the best in WW2.Fast,potent with 85 mm gun and deadly in the hands of a trained crew.