Rev. Douglas James Cottrell PhD: The Zodiac killer

[skywolf8113]

I have not read the comments or completed the video yet. I would like to point out an observation; I find it interesting that this time Douglas says "we seem to have the entity." this is interesting.

[tubed2247]

(Continued again) that he calls it evil, not really contridicting himself, but mixing the signals. Its not an entity from the other side, but a manifestation of the subconscience, perhaps as protection from a feeling of being threatened and/or to create a projection of himeself where he is feared, due to an feelings of inferiority.

[tubed2247]

(Continued again) His voice is very deep. Michael O'Hare, as a suspect is very driven. Zodiac is a mystery and stealthy obsession. What I mean by, "stealthy obsession," is that you don't even know, especially if you're not preoccupied with it, that you're getting sucked in. That sounds like Nancy Slover, doesn't it (the one asking the questions)? I like that, (because I hate how people bring bullshitey religion nonsense into this stuff) he says that its a mental illness. I don't like, however,

[tubed2247]

(Continued) I don't know. Maybe it was him. Evidence points more toward Richard Gaikowski and (not together) Michael O'Hare. If you want to see Michael O'hare, look up, on google, his name, I suppose. I stumbled upon it when I was on bestbuy looking up the BluRay DVD. It was one of the paid google links. On search, it should take you to a self-published book on its own website. Richard Gaikowski's voice recordings were IDed by Nancy Slover, 911 operator who took the call, as the Zodiac.

[tubed2247]

Bullshit. Allen wasn't Zodiac. Unless he could magically change his voice, recreate a new bone structure, reconstruct his old one after killing, along with MPS, hes not. He is not! He didn't have skizophrenia! Or MPS! He never took a lie detector test! The proof of his innocence is nothing more than simple common sense. Right from the beginning, he doesn't look like the composite. It could have been an organization. One kills. Another kills just one, etc. He could have had a prosthetic.

[KamilloPoland]

Idiot ! Arthur Lee Allen is not a Zodiac! Man in 1:37 ... his alive, not victim. About girl in 1:43 - propably not Zodiac kill her.

[ifnot4me]

I grew up in Vallejo and my father often shopped in Ace Hardware on Tennesse Street while Allen was employed there. On more than one occassion I was within 3 feet of Allen and he always creeped me out. We knew nothing of his involvement back then.

The man at 1:37 Bryan Hartnell and although he is still alive, he is a VICTIM of the Zodiac killer because he was threatened, assaulted and stabbed numerous times which in all courts of law here in America would constitute being a victim.

[rammsteinregeln]

@ifnot4me Interesting, thanks for sharing

[ifnot4me]

Sure thing. The Ace Hardware location was demolished about 5 years ago. The address was 1131 Tennessee Street near the intersection of Tennessee and Amador Street in Vallejo.

West of Ace Hardware there was a car dealership lot that's still there and to the east side on the corner was a Fosters Freeze.

If you view the location with Google maps, you can still see some of the pavement between the old Fosters Freeze and Ace Hardware.

Allen lived only 3 blocks to the east on Fresno Street.

[alhaquin]

wow thats interesting

[jasongogal]

Trippy.

[TURLEY01]

This is one of the shortest videos but one of the best yet!

[rammsteinregeln]

One observation i forgot to add to this: if Allen indeed had schizo/multiple personality disorder or even was possessed as this suggests, taking on the different personalit[ies] would help explain why the handwriting samples did not match and why he was able to pass a lie detector test

[DBBCSR67A]

interesting that the Zodiac soul seem to still be influenced in the after life. I wonder what can break that spell or if he needs help from others to do it

[rammsteinregeln]

Just like any other soul, he needs to move forward on his own even though he regressed in his previous life because of his actions. Yes there are consequences to heinous actions but learning from mistakes is one of the most important parts of the life cycle.. he will take on the form again and hopefully in his next existence, do some positive things and learn to love and help people

[alhaquin]

wouldnt he still be influenced by this other being if there is one?

[MCGUTHO]

Facinating stuff - I wonder if Rev Cottrell gets scared when he is venturing around in these other realms ....... especially when being asked questions like this.

I would be interested in knowing what he picks up/sees if he is ever asked about that Blue Spiral light in Norway.

[rammsteinregeln]

Rev D doesn't experience emotions really when he is doing the DTM's; he has said though that when examining deranged minds or doing health readings of really sick bodies, that he sometimes feels a little ill afterward, but the feeling dissipates after awhile.

As for the blue spiral the official explanation is that it was an out of control sub-launched Russian rocket, but how could that have created such a huge light show?! Anyway..

[cliftonnla]

No, what I think what is being said was that arthur Allen was mentally ill, thus allowing himself to be influenced by off world entities. A ouija board had very little to do with this.....possession can only happen if you are already mentally unstable.

[Merriden]

I would say this is deffinetly creepy. Correct me if Im wrong rammsteinregeln please, but I believe the best defense against such entities would be to strengthen your own mind/body/soul via meditation and deffinetly don't forget to ask the universe/God for protection from "any and all negative influences reguardless of source. Amen."

[rammsteinregeln]

Yes, that and the normal everyday stuff like being kind and helping others, etc. Why are some people criminals? There are many influences for that, and some people just seem to have a natural desire to do wrong and can't seem to be rehabilitated no matter how many times they're locked up. Contentment and being able to like oneself is a big fundamental.

Usually doors have to be opened for possession to occur though and yes it *might* have been occult involvement of some sort

[ratab1n]

I think what Cottrell is saying is that Arthur Allen is the killer, but the original entity that was Arthur Allen seems to have been dispossessed by another evil entity.

Cayce and Peterson both said that possessions do happen and can happen from such dangerous activities such as ouiji boards and automatic writings. Maybe you should ask how this other evil entitiy came to influence or take possession of Arthur Allen and what people could do to protect themselves from this.

[tayb838]

yeah too creepy

[rammsteinregeln]

This one by request: asking about the identity of the Zodiac killer. He seems to indicate Arthur Leigh Allen although he's not 100% on that, there are other interesting details.. i must say of all the questions i've ever asked, this is one of the creepiest answers he has ever given

[shelnutt]

Yeah seriously creepy, interesting none the less. I had thought of questions I would ask, honestly this one never crossed my mind. It is a question that did need some answering. Has there been a question posed about Jack the Ripper?

[rammsteinregeln]

To my knowledge, no, no one has asked about The Ripper.. that one is so far in the past I don't know if any answer he could give for it would be meaningful anymore but who knows

[shelnutt]

Hopefully someone will ask about the "Blue Spiral" in Norway. I just saw some amateur video on it, pretty nice. Any one have any thought on Alex Collier?