Jehovah witnesses are cults they are not real Christians anyway, they leave in groups because they don't have any truth to debate your lies with, so it is really just satan talking with satan. However if you talk to a real Christian there is no debate you either want God to judge you as a sinner, with no mercy, or you want God's mercy though Jesus Christ you want Heaven or Hell, all of this talking all of this arguing does it really matter when God at the end will play it all back to you?!
@Gowardh Assuming "your" in that sentence means atheists, you're not doing any good with your comment. Atheists aren't afraid of hell, because there is no evidence of the existence of such a place. All you did is accuse "us" of being satan and threatening that we''ll go to hell, which again, we don't believe in. You aren't getting anywhere with this. If he created us, god gave us free will, right? But we'll go to hell if we don't believe in him? That isn't free will, that's bribery.
Purpose can mean "intention/objective" or "reason for being/happening". So we have a purpose for existing in the latter sense but possibly not the former.
heres a good one: most christians believe that the messiah will come from the paternal family of king david. if god was jesus's father then hes not from the house of david so he cant be the messiah. it will fuck with their mind.
the purpose of life is pure and simple, to pass your genes on to the next generation. That's it, look at almost everything anything ever does it is to survive long enough to breed, procreate and to give the young the best start to life, for most things once they can no longer be parents it's down hill very quickly
read the Vedas-the oldest, oneofthe foremost sacred texts givento genuine truthseekers. Rig Veda 9:113.7_11;Rig Veda4.5.5; 7.104.3 says the only purpose of the Purush Prajapati is to sacrifice His life-blood to pay our penalty for sin.It is the only wayto Heaven and the only way of escape from eternal Hell. could read vedas toknow moreabout who PurushPrajapathi(means-Lord of people-in sanskrit)could be.The ancient sages BC, were expecting Him -the Son of God to cometo save humans with His blood.
@vidkir1 Theres older sacred texts written on STONE BLOCKS IN EGYPTmy friend does that mean we all should be worshipping ra set ect? just cos its old doesnt mean its true,the constituion and the bill of rights in england are only 300-800yrs old i think magna carta?Thats what mostly ALL of the worlds freedoms stem from as britian invaded and trod all over the local corrupt religious laws in most countrys in the world.They specificly goes against religons txts by giving freedoms to man.
@Thelondonbadger -Thanks for ur kind reply - the divinely inspired books given about 4000 yrs ago to the saints could be read directly for answers (rather than listening to twisted meanings) . The message is simple -believe in the Lord Jesus and you / we will be saved - He is the way (only way to eternal life and G-d the father) , the truth and life. thanks for your kind reply earlier.
The only way to deal with a Jehovah's Witness is to come to the door naked, and enthusiastically invite them in. You will never see them again. Like most of the Abrahamic flock, these people tend to be far to deluded to understand you. Remember, they have, not only a false version of history, but a false knowledge of science in their heads. It's like trying to tell someone that the moon doesn't really exist. They have made fiction reality in their minds, and are dead set on keeping it that way.
Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. Please study and look into the facts. God is fact deal with it the proof is within yourself. Humble your self before a holy God and he will lift you up. Swallow your pride and admit atheism has been refuted over and over again but sadly when the truth is presented people still reject it because they love their sin. Repent and come to the saviour Jesus.
@jguinther333 humanism focuses on human values and concerns.. "atheism" is just a lack of belief in "God" .. humanists or not ,the ones who attend that church you speak of are "atheists" as they do not believe in god .. atheism is not to be confused with a sect, it is a LACK of sect.
There is no purpose to life.. you forge the purpose.. thats the beauty of it.. whats the point if some "GOD" has already predefined what you are going to do and should do?
I did some reading today and I think my confusion is between terms used. Is Atheism the same as Humanism? Here in my city there is a Church that has meetings and they say they are Humanist and do not believe in gods. Still there are some who say they believe in science but do not have rituals. They just revere people. I want to understand why an Atheist can not see people and progress as gods of a sort?
I mean no disrespect to Atheism or those who hold such views. I may have a misunderstanding or a way of speaking that is not like yours but I am at least open to looking at what others have to say. If I have offended you by expressing my own ideas then it was not my intent. We are all human beings right? Why do we need to be so caustic with somebody because they think in a way we do not?
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I think the Gods were once people and they evolved. They organised the worlds from chaos matter that has always been. The Earth is billions of years old as Atheism says but that is where I part ways with them. I do think there is a lot none of us know yet and only when we can evolve to be Gods will we have a clue. Does anyone else see it like I do?
@jguinther333 A 'god' is not something that evolves through natural selection from simpler organisms through into something more complex in the first place. Evolution is 'natural'..God is a 'supernatural' assertion and and a superstition. So what you're proposing makes no sense.
You are most obviously prejudiced against atheists if you were mislead to beleive that atheism 'teaches' anything. Atheism has no rules, no dogma, no information to learn. Most Buddhists are atheist because they don't believe in any gods. Atheism has nothing to do with religion and only refers to the lack of belief in any supernatural beings. If you continually use the word Atheism as if its a religion with tenents, you are being blatantly dishonest.
@jguinther333 Saying humans evolved to be gods is adding backstory to fill the plot holes. There's an explanation that agrees with what we can observe, without invoking what we can't: People tell stories. It's a story even if it's true. Stories can have things that no one sees outside a story. If someone eventually sees them, it could have been a true story. Until then, it's just a story. Don't ask special stories to be true before observing them. A lot of other people have, you don't have to.
@jguinther333 Yes but I don't believe they 're gods, just highly evolved beings, which bare no resemblance to the god of the bible which acts suspiciously human.
Philosophy is useful in evaluating morals and political systems, but it is often useless in determining reality. A lot of things in philosophy sound good on paper, but it is entirely speculation. Before we understood how the brain worked, people theorized what determined human personality till the cows came home. Didn't make any of those theories true. It is a way of thinking, not a way to find to find absolute truth. That is why all philosophical arguments for creation like Kalam fall flat.
Think the Catholic Priest that invented the Big Bang would think about atheists trying to use it as their most loved theory? He didn't turn atheist. He knew the big bang could not come from nowhere
@willlovesjennifer well the events before the big bang didnt need a creator due to your own rules as they were outside of space time the event itself created time and space. It works both ways. Also which god if you assume there was. . . . a christian one? Now that would be bias to persume that particular god is god right you have no proof your god is the true one.
@MsOneiroi77 The CIA, FBI, ATF are completely under Jesuit control. The Jonestown massacre, the Waco massacre and other massacres(including the Twin Towers) were all orchestrated to cause worldwide abhorrence and demonization of any group that seeks to get out from under the control of the worldwide Jesuit influence, domination, subversion and infiltration.
@bornbythesea Message me. You seem to have odd views of Catholicism that I would like to discuss if you would like to. I'm a convert so I'm probably not the kind of Catholic you're used to talking to.
@MsOneiroi77 The big bang does need a creator due to my own rules because it is not out of space and time. It is obviously the start of space and time in our universe but it is illogical to say it started itself. It is easy for someone that will never prove their own position to make such a claim. You rest your position on denial of what I tell you, but I will tell you why just because, knowing you will not listen. Only one God can exist due to multiple gods not being logical before creation.
@MsOneiroi77 Then you eliminate polytheists. After this you look at the Jews, Christians and ,Muslims. Through Judaism it is apparent that a savior is necessary. Jesus was that savior. He correlates perfectly with the prophecies. Then you can study the origins of Islam and see for yourself the historical inaccuracies and violent beginning with a warlord prophet telling his army to spread his word by the end of their swords. And then I could go into the denominations but I don't think you care.
@willlovesjennifer yes I eliminate polytheists and monotheists because all religions assume they are the truth. You assume jesus in the savior, he's your personal saviour. You have no proof outwith the bible that jesus is god. Then again Hindus would laugh at your claims as would Muslems its only your personal bias towards your religion (and theirs) that makes you both discredit each other. Science is just being used by creationists for their own religious agendas and bias claims.
@MsOneiroi77 I like your way of ignorantly discrediting a solid argument by not understanding philosophy. Horrific philosophy is probably why you believe what you do. A single God is logical. It is illogical for multiple gods because there could only be one creator. That is all that is necessary. You need to think about how the universe was created before you say I'm wrong. Chances are you ignore it or say no one knows how it came from nothing. Hawking says it just appeared. How?
@willlovesjennifer Really, I actually do think about how the universe came about and where should there be room for a creator if need be? In fact why should there be room for your creator? Bhrama in the Hindu scriptures stated the universe is billions of years old. This agrees with science therefore the Hindu crreation myths trump your creation myths. If people agree to a god (with no concrete evidence) you'll twist it to Jesus in 5 minutes. No the tag of Horrific philosophy lies at your feet.
@MsOneiroi77 What did you think when you thought about how the universe came about? I studied Hinduism and Buddhism so don't feel any need to describe it to me as if I were ignorant of other religions. Before you even bring up my philosophies I would like to know if you have any education in that area. If not I don't understand why you are trying to criticize me.
@willlovesjennifer criticism where criticism is due, you think the Christian god is the creator but there is no evidence out with your holy book. Others with just as much religious training will disagree preferring their own personal god. To believe in a creator god is fine its a claim with just as much evidence for Oden, Zeus, Bhrama. It may have happened sadly your beliefs (and other people’s don’t count). The Universe is a mystery you can’t solve and science is trying to answer.
@willlovesjennifer How can you interfere with spacetime, without being inside of it? It is like saying you can stirr thing up, looking at a fish tank. The thing with spacetime; if you do anything, then you are part of time. Time is the actions in a sequence.
@Ko252 How can you believe space and time always existed? Time is a measurement of change. Everything changes right? Wrong. For existence something has to have been there, therefore that something would be impervious to change and time. You understand everything did not just always exist it all had to have an origin.
@willlovesjennifer You ask me? You say GOD made the universe and intervene in our lives, and still is outside time and space? How can you act, without being a victum of time and space? No, everything doesnt change. I have havnt said that. "You understand everything did not just always exist it all had to have an origin. " So you do believe GOD has an origin? If not, your argument is false, and same argument can be used for the universe.
@Ko252 You haven't read anything I've said have you? Its above your frame of mind. Everything you see has an origin. That origin has to be from something that is solid and unmovable. That solid point is God. He lacks nothing and needs nothing. He needs no creation to exist because time is irrelevant when discussing the existence of God. He created time. Try to fathom it before responding the same way ignoring the reason. Tell me something you say doesn't change other than God?
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Also if you knew what a theory was. It is a compiled amount of facts. Evolution is verified everyday by these facts. :) We are still waiting to find something inconsistent. When that happens, evolution can be thrown out the window, but it has held strong and only grown since 150 years ago.
@ThorTheOdinSon I wouldn't say that it is completely verified. It has a lot of evidence but it is best to wait until the holes are figured out before basing too much off it. I'm weary to accept it as a fact.
@willlovesjennifer We only base on what is verified, this is how science works.If your beef is with the scientists and their opinions than i agree.Too much is assumed and guessed by individual scientists,especially when they give there lectures or write articles.The great thing about a Consensus is just that though ,all this bias is filtered and whats left is non bias information. Information cannot have a opinoin therefore all it is, is evidence. I think we agree on more than you think.
What holes would you have filled though before you can accept evolution? If you are thinking a theory can become a scientific law, you are mistaken. If you are thinking of the word theory with a conventional use of the term id advise you to take a look at my website I address this issue. A scientific theory is often mistaken to mean hypothesis in all conventional use of the word. Especially by christian apologists!
@MH5tube "Life is meaningless... anyone can do whatever they want..." That's total bullshit. How do you explain places like Norway or Japan? Based on your logic, these should be the worst places on the planet and yet in reality, these are amongst the healthiest and least violent places. It's entirely possible to have morals without religion. Dumb statement. I reccomend you watch: Why do people laugh at creationists? (part 29).
@MH5tube ...and my point is please watch: { Why do people laugh at creationists? (part 29) }. It's on youtube. Also, bare in mind that people who only do good out of fear of Yahweh in fact actually have no morals because what they're doing is no different from complying with an armed bank robber. Further more, since in christianity Yahweh forgives everything and his opinion is the only one that counts, many use that to justify all kinds of wrong doings. Hitler is a perfect example of this.
@incomprehensible14 I don't obey out of fear but out of love and thankfulness. Also, there is one sin that God cannot forgive: rejection of the Holy Spirit.
@MH5tube ...and fear. Don't forget fear. It's the most important part. Otherwise, there'd be no point to even mentioning hell in the bible. But I'm sure we nonchristians could get Yahweh to change his mind about sending us to hell just like Moses got him to change his mind about murdering the Israelites and sending them to hell in Exodus32: 14. How strange that an omniscient being needs advice from mortals. Stranger still that he'd contradict himself in 1Samuel15: 29:/
@MH5tube You also FEAR him. Otherwise, there'd be no point to even mentioning hell in the bible. Wouldn't want a bunch of people pretending to be christian out of FEAR hanging around the church. We nonchristians could just get Jehovah to change his mind about sending us to hell just like Moses got him to change his mind about sending the Israelites to hell in Exodus32: 14. Strange that an omniscient being would need a mortal's advice. Stranger still that he'd contradict himself in 1Samuel15: 29.
@MH5tube From an atheist point of view, life is NOT meaningless and you cannot do whatever you want. There are laws and moral compasses to live by. Life is just as beautiful to an atheist as it should be to everyone else. I believe in human kind solving it's own problems, not invisible beings. Humanity > Gods. And if you think about it, a theist, believing in 1 god, is still 99% atheist, not believing in Thor, Buddha, Muhammad, etc. I'm just 100% atheist, don't believe in ANY gods.
@MH5tube Think about what? I'm happy with my life without worshiping cruel, invisible beings. I'm happy as hell not believing in a book full of bigotry, genocide and impossibilities. I LOVE learning more and more, and the FACT of evolution constantly amazes me. I have faith in no gods, but in humankind, and what we can (should) do for each other.
@wildsmiley ...God isn't cruel, he's loving, and punishment is part of love. Parents who don't love their kids dont punish them. Second, evolution is not "FACT". It has not been proven and never will.
Consider this: Do you believe the universe had a beginning?
@MH5tube Send bears to murder some kids? Stone your child. Kill your children if they do not believe. Or if they are unruly. Rules on how to beat keep and mark your slaves. Kill homosexuals. Kill anyone that attempts to persuade you from your family to another god. Let me guess what your response is. "That's all in the old testament." Than why does Jesus use one of these as a example, showing the people that they no longer fallow Gods laws. They only fallow tradition.
@ThorTheOdinSon i know part of it is from the ten commandments. and those are still continued into the new covenant, but the rest of Jesus's quote is only pre stated in Deuteronomy and a few other books. When God is giving Moses and the Israelite's that are leaving Egypt, the rest of the laws about slaves and what not. Not either times in the bible does it say "Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death." when giving the commandments. You have been conned!
Mark 7 9-13And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’[d] and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ 11 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)—
12 then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”
@MH5tube HE KILLS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE in the bible! How is that loving? By your definition, Hitler must have been the most loving person who ever lived!! Which as any sane person would know, is bullshit. Same deal with this god of yours. And EVOLUTION has been proven fact. By just about every scientist and almost every field you can come across. There are buckets of proof for evidence. There is NO proof for God, the Ark story or Adam & Eve. NONE. This universe had a beginning: the big bang.
@MH5tube Hitler did not kill people for no reason. He believed that if people were of the wrong race, or "genetically deficient", or homosexual, then they should be destroyed to prevent them from polluting the gene pool of superior people. In that sense, his genocide was exactly like God's, as displayed in the Bible. Hitler thought he was doing the work of God.
@MH5tube You don't punish people like god did in the Bible. He "punished" people WITH genocide. And, as Crunchy68 said, Hitler had his so-called reasons he killed people. And he did it in the name of his Christian god, the very same on as yours. Crack a history book. Was your god telling Hitler to "punish" the Jews just as he did to a good chunk of mankind in the bible? I'm banking on that you're a smart guy, so you know that murder is always wrong. Genocide is wrong, even if it's done by a god.
Hitler said, and I quote, "The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."
Sans Adolf Hitler, this quote could be from ANY misguided humanist.
But really. Why are we even bothering to go over this whole Hitler thing. I mean, we can all agree he was an evil psychopath who was clearly out of his mind.
@MH5tube Well, of course, he might be history's most awful person pretty much ever. But the point is, I was just disagreeing with you about Hitler being a believer.
@wildsmiley How is murder always wrong? To pseudo-quote the best comic ever written, namely Watchmen: is it wrong to kill millions to save billions? And if it is, then why, and based on what?
@wildsmiley To be fair, "god" was pretty inventive when it came to murder. I mean, turning somebody into a pillar of salt....even Hitler never tried that.
To your statement on evolution. Use the internet more productively. You must be completely ignorant to the world around you. Your a progression creationist? Or a young earther?
My teacher is a christian. Thank God for people without BS detectors, because otherwise I'd be failing. Well, actually it would just be more difficult.
Richard Dawkins had a great answer to this question stating that it is a question that begs the question - just because we can vocalize it, doesn't mean that it is some sort of a great question.
how the world has changed in 2000 years. society has become so independent and politicaly correct that someday soon it will be illegal to express free thought and beliefs. being religious is like the colour of your skin, you just cant change who you are. be accepting of us and respectful and just let us go on with our ways and ideas. i strongly dont believe in going door to door tho trying to recruit athiest to your church. if they are to be religious 1day let god speak to them, not you
The argument that I think I've heard from atheists is not whether there is a god or not, but that the question is totally irrelevant. So, they keep performing experiments where they can understand the very nature of creation and keep missing the very evidence that God exists that is presented by their own experiments.
You want to know how to send door-to-door religion salespeople away as non-believers? Here's how I did it with some young Mormons: I invited them in and showed them a ten-minute clip of George Carlin talking about religion. It's a well-known clip, just search "george carlin religion" and it comes right up.
the reason for "genocide" in the old testament was for the geneology of Christ to be preserved so he could come. If you look and see who it happened to you can plainly see this
That's the most pathetic rationalization of the bible I've ever heard. It happened to the enemies of the people who wrote the biblical stories, end of story. Once more, might makes right.
the purpose of life is nothing actually just to live, experience and survive. people are animals and like animals we have no divine reason to be. we exist to continue this endless evolutionary cycle.
Despite my persisting theism, I'm enjoying these videos. Love how you guys actually think stuff through and pick a side, rather than just ignore it or be a wishy-washy agnostic or fake religious person, like so many.
But really the purpose of this comment is to say: awesome Serenity shirt, dude.
@AlexandraHouse You know, being an agnostic doesn't mean you are "wishy washy". It just means you believe it is unknown and probably unknowable to humans (including muslims and christians), and you don't have an opinion. Sadly, there is an outbreak of fools out there that call themselves agnostic and seem to think it's some fence sitting position between atheism and theism. If anything, it's a cross between atheism and DEISM. The word most of them should be going by is "undecided", not agnostic.
@incomprehensible14 being agnostic is probably close to the most logical decision you can make. As an agnostic, one is brave enough to admit that they do not have control over their destiny and don't know the meaning of life. and that should be a good thing, rather than pretentiously assuming that they have found the "path of righteousness" and picking a specific religeon that they have no real way of validating.
@PhobicOne absolutely not. you seem to believe it necessary for me to "pretend" that my viewpoint is correct when really i am analyzing all viewpoints, recognizing their similar logical flaws and contradictions, and then avoiding to settle for their incomplete explanation of the purpose of life. my previous comment should have had more emphasis on the word "validate" because their strong assumption that they are correct is only half of the problem.
@sammanslap There is no bravery in being an agnostic. Instead, there's the erroneous assumption that calling yourself atheist (OH SHIT HE SAID IT) means you assert there is no God in the same positive sense that theists assert there is one. The mistake is rather than believing there is no God atheists don't believe in a God. Back to agnostics: Rather than allowing yourself to contemplate that there is in all likelihood no God, agnostics compromise by not believing in any God that's been proposed
@PhobicOne my personal definition of agnosticism is more of a simple skepticism of all gods/religions. i have learned form this conversation that i clearly need to be more careful in labeling my beliefs, lest i antagonize sensitive youtube members such as yourself. the reason i believe there is "in all likelihood" no god, is because i do not believe in any god that has been proposed. If I had learned of a god/religion that was compelling enough, perhaps i would believe in that god. (cont'd)
@PhobicOne (cont'd) if i was more confident in my belief that there was no god, then i would label myself as atheist. I find it beneficial to use a more intermediate term such as agnostic so that i am not pressured to back up beliefs which i do not yet have strong evidence for.
@sammanslap Sadly, there is no intermediate in a question such as "is there a god?". There is either a positive claim, in which you must find evidence to prove your hypothesis, or a negative claim, which is the default position on any idea which is introduced. I get it if you're afraid to call yourself atheist, as so many theists (especially in America) positively HATE anyone who calls themselves one, but that doesn't mean the position isn't a very solid one.
@sammanslap Oh, and about "antagonizing sensitive youtube members such as myself": Being smug is bound to piss off anyone, just just sensitive little flowers like myself.
@PhobicOne my original point was not aimed toward atheists. i did not intend to be smug. i was pointing out that people need to stop choosing sides simply for comfort. sometimes when arguing with religious people, they don't even remotely take what you are saying into consideration partly because they are afraid that they have lived a lie and dont want to admit it to themselves. thats the only reason i used the word "bravery".
Jehovah witnesses are cults they are not real Christians anyway, they leave in groups because they don't have any truth to debate your lies with, so it is really just satan talking with satan. However if you talk to a real Christian there is no debate you either want God to judge you as a sinner, with no mercy, or you want God's mercy though Jesus Christ you want Heaven or Hell, all of this talking all of this arguing does it really matter when God at the end will play it all back to you?!
Gowardh 1 month ago
@Gowardh Assuming "your" in that sentence means atheists, you're not doing any good with your comment. Atheists aren't afraid of hell, because there is no evidence of the existence of such a place. All you did is accuse "us" of being satan and threatening that we''ll go to hell, which again, we don't believe in. You aren't getting anywhere with this. If he created us, god gave us free will, right? But we'll go to hell if we don't believe in him? That isn't free will, that's bribery.
omgwtfbbqxD 1 month ago
@omgwtfbbqxD well said!
TriniCrew 1 week ago
It's not like they know the meaning of it either. Like someone is telling them what life is about. Go fuck yourself, i would say.
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kylesenior 1 month ago
Purpose can mean "intention/objective" or "reason for being/happening". So we have a purpose for existing in the latter sense but possibly not the former.
Scraxs 1 month ago
heres a good one: most christians believe that the messiah will come from the paternal family of king david. if god was jesus's father then hes not from the house of david so he cant be the messiah. it will fuck with their mind.
elissbern 2 months ago
the purpose of life is pure and simple, to pass your genes on to the next generation. That's it, look at almost everything anything ever does it is to survive long enough to breed, procreate and to give the young the best start to life, for most things once they can no longer be parents it's down hill very quickly
Dawnphyre 2 months ago
The purpose of life isn't a question you pose to life, it's a question posed to you by life
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read the Vedas-the oldest, oneofthe foremost sacred texts givento genuine truthseekers. Rig Veda 9:113.7_11;Rig Veda4.5.5; 7.104.3 says the only purpose of the Purush Prajapati is to sacrifice His life-blood to pay our penalty for sin.It is the only wayto Heaven and the only way of escape from eternal Hell. could read vedas toknow moreabout who PurushPrajapathi(means-Lord of people-in sanskrit)could be.The ancient sages BC, were expecting Him -the Son of God to cometo save humans with His blood.
vidkir1 3 months ago
@vidkir1 Theres older sacred texts written on STONE BLOCKS IN EGYPTmy friend does that mean we all should be worshipping ra set ect? just cos its old doesnt mean its true,the constituion and the bill of rights in england are only 300-800yrs old i think magna carta?Thats what mostly ALL of the worlds freedoms stem from as britian invaded and trod all over the local corrupt religious laws in most countrys in the world.They specificly goes against religons txts by giving freedoms to man.
Thelondonbadger 3 months ago
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@Thelondonbadger -Thanks for ur kind reply - the divinely inspired books given about 4000 yrs ago to the saints could be read directly for answers (rather than listening to twisted meanings) . The message is simple -believe in the Lord Jesus and you / we will be saved - He is the way (only way to eternal life and G-d the father) , the truth and life. thanks for your kind reply earlier.
vidkir1 3 months ago
The only way to deal with a Jehovah's Witness is to come to the door naked, and enthusiastically invite them in. You will never see them again. Like most of the Abrahamic flock, these people tend to be far to deluded to understand you. Remember, they have, not only a false version of history, but a false knowledge of science in their heads. It's like trying to tell someone that the moon doesn't really exist. They have made fiction reality in their minds, and are dead set on keeping it that way.
skywize 3 months ago
@skywize So very true, religon is a pyramid scheme based on profiteering on peoples fear of death.
Thelondonbadger 3 months ago
@Thelondonbadger It's after-life insurance. Quite a scam they're running.
MarkRosengarten 2 months ago
@MarkRosengarten Pay everyday till you die then we wont pay you out because it was an act of god...LOL
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Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. Please study and look into the facts. God is fact deal with it the proof is within yourself. Humble your self before a holy God and he will lift you up. Swallow your pride and admit atheism has been refuted over and over again but sadly when the truth is presented people still reject it because they love their sin. Repent and come to the saviour Jesus.
jordan7787 3 months ago
I'm happy Woody Harrelson is an Atheist Experience host
squeezycheeseypeas 4 months ago
@squeezycheeseypeas Mickey Dolens too!
skywize 3 months ago
@jguinther333 humanism focuses on human values and concerns.. "atheism" is just a lack of belief in "God" .. humanists or not ,the ones who attend that church you speak of are "atheists" as they do not believe in god .. atheism is not to be confused with a sect, it is a LACK of sect.
Graphicdimension 5 months ago
There is no purpose to life.. you forge the purpose.. thats the beauty of it.. whats the point if some "GOD" has already predefined what you are going to do and should do?
Graphicdimension 5 months ago
I did some reading today and I think my confusion is between terms used. Is Atheism the same as Humanism? Here in my city there is a Church that has meetings and they say they are Humanist and do not believe in gods. Still there are some who say they believe in science but do not have rituals. They just revere people. I want to understand why an Atheist can not see people and progress as gods of a sort?
jguinther333 5 months ago
@jguinther333 You have some basis for your belief in seeing people as gods of
a sort because gods are modeled after the human mind. The problem with atheists
using the term god is that "most" theists believe in a creator being and prayer.
Just because humans make things for their needs does not translate into a super
human mind creating everything from nothing or that everything had an ultimate beginning.
Statistical evidence shows that prayer is ineffective.
mentalphysicalism 4 months ago
I mean no disrespect to Atheism or those who hold such views. I may have a misunderstanding or a way of speaking that is not like yours but I am at least open to looking at what others have to say. If I have offended you by expressing my own ideas then it was not my intent. We are all human beings right? Why do we need to be so caustic with somebody because they think in a way we do not?
jguinther333 5 months ago
There is no purpose to life....simple answer. Life just exists, without reason or purpose.
johnycannuk 5 months ago
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I think the Gods were once people and they evolved. They organised the worlds from chaos matter that has always been. The Earth is billions of years old as Atheism says but that is where I part ways with them. I do think there is a lot none of us know yet and only when we can evolve to be Gods will we have a clue. Does anyone else see it like I do?
jguinther333 5 months ago
@jguinther333
- "The Earth is billions of years old as Atheism says"
Atheism doesn't say anything about the age of the Earth. Atheism doesn't speak much anyway. It's just a lack of belief in any gods.
- "and only when we can evolve to be Gods will we have a clue."
Evolve to be gods...
- " Does anyone else see it like I do?"
By definition atheists don't, and regular theists don't hold such beliefs either, so I guess you are on your own.
TheAtheistExperience 5 months ago 27
@jguinther333 What the...!?
Zentz29 5 months ago
@jguinther333 What the...!?
Zentz29 5 months ago
Yes, I see it like you do.
But only after I've smoked a good spliff.
UncleFeedle 5 months ago
@jguinther333 A 'god' is not something that evolves through natural selection from simpler organisms through into something more complex in the first place. Evolution is 'natural'..God is a 'supernatural' assertion and and a superstition. So what you're proposing makes no sense.
Lennon4ever1 5 months ago
@jguinther333
You are most obviously prejudiced against atheists if you were mislead to beleive that atheism 'teaches' anything. Atheism has no rules, no dogma, no information to learn. Most Buddhists are atheist because they don't believe in any gods. Atheism has nothing to do with religion and only refers to the lack of belief in any supernatural beings. If you continually use the word Atheism as if its a religion with tenents, you are being blatantly dishonest.
drche420 5 months ago
@jguinther333 Saying humans evolved to be gods is adding backstory to fill the plot holes. There's an explanation that agrees with what we can observe, without invoking what we can't: People tell stories. It's a story even if it's true. Stories can have things that no one sees outside a story. If someone eventually sees them, it could have been a true story. Until then, it's just a story. Don't ask special stories to be true before observing them. A lot of other people have, you don't have to.
LokiClock 5 months ago
@jguinther333
It's worth pointing out that if you compared us to humans 5,000 years ago we would be considered Gods.
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@Molandria True, consider the Cargo Cults!
TheDano1947 4 months ago
@jguinther333 Yes but I don't believe they 're gods, just highly evolved beings, which bare no resemblance to the god of the bible which acts suspiciously human.
TheDano1947 4 months ago
@jguinther333 You are more schizophrenic and deluded than the average christian, and that's saying something!
mysql0 4 months ago
@jguinther333 play assassins creed. you will have your answers
sagar246246 4 months ago
@jguinther333 I have never been this certain and serious about anything in my life but you are the dumbest human that will ever walk on this earth,
terrazoul 2 months ago
@jguinther333 You need mental help....
krypekeeper 1 month ago
@jguinther333: No.
chinopisces 1 week ago
Even if God does exist I'm just gonna smack him with my dangalang.
LeoRikimaru 5 months ago
Philosophy is useful in evaluating morals and political systems, but it is often useless in determining reality. A lot of things in philosophy sound good on paper, but it is entirely speculation. Before we understood how the brain worked, people theorized what determined human personality till the cows came home. Didn't make any of those theories true. It is a way of thinking, not a way to find to find absolute truth. That is why all philosophical arguments for creation like Kalam fall flat.
MunkyDrag0n 5 months ago
Think the Catholic Priest that invented the Big Bang would think about atheists trying to use it as their most loved theory? He didn't turn atheist. He knew the big bang could not come from nowhere
willlovesjennifer 5 months ago
@willlovesjennifer "Come from nowhere" /facepalm
moocows111111 5 months ago
@willlovesjennifer just like god came from nowhere?
MsOneiroi77 5 months ago
@MsOneiroi77 God doesn't need a creator. He is outside of space and time. Otherwise he wouldn't be the creator. God has no need for anything.
willlovesjennifer 5 months ago
@willlovesjennifer well the events before the big bang didnt need a creator due to your own rules as they were outside of space time the event itself created time and space. It works both ways. Also which god if you assume there was. . . . a christian one? Now that would be bias to persume that particular god is god right you have no proof your god is the true one.
MsOneiroi77 5 months ago
@MsOneiroi77 The CIA, FBI, ATF are completely under Jesuit control. The Jonestown massacre, the Waco massacre and other massacres(including the Twin Towers) were all orchestrated to cause worldwide abhorrence and demonization of any group that seeks to get out from under the control of the worldwide Jesuit influence, domination, subversion and infiltration.
bornbythesea 5 months ago
@bornbythesea that sounds a bit conspiracy theory there the jesuits are an order in the Catholic church
MsOneiroi77 5 months ago
@bornbythesea hahahaha.. I know something you don't know. I know the crazy protestant that made all that up.
willlovesjennifer 5 months ago
@willlovesjennifer OK, hit me! :)
bornbythesea 5 months ago
@bornbythesea What you are saying mostly comes from Jack Chick's ideology which comes from Alberto Rivera.
willlovesjennifer 5 months ago
@willlovesjennifer Awesome :)
bornbythesea 5 months ago
@bornbythesea Message me. You seem to have odd views of Catholicism that I would like to discuss if you would like to. I'm a convert so I'm probably not the kind of Catholic you're used to talking to.
willlovesjennifer 5 months ago
@willlovesjennifer Send me! :) Your questions that is.
bornbythesea 5 months ago
@MsOneiroi77 The big bang does need a creator due to my own rules because it is not out of space and time. It is obviously the start of space and time in our universe but it is illogical to say it started itself. It is easy for someone that will never prove their own position to make such a claim. You rest your position on denial of what I tell you, but I will tell you why just because, knowing you will not listen. Only one God can exist due to multiple gods not being logical before creation.
willlovesjennifer 5 months ago
@MsOneiroi77 Then you eliminate polytheists. After this you look at the Jews, Christians and ,Muslims. Through Judaism it is apparent that a savior is necessary. Jesus was that savior. He correlates perfectly with the prophecies. Then you can study the origins of Islam and see for yourself the historical inaccuracies and violent beginning with a warlord prophet telling his army to spread his word by the end of their swords. And then I could go into the denominations but I don't think you care.
willlovesjennifer 5 months ago
@willlovesjennifer yes I eliminate polytheists and monotheists because all religions assume they are the truth. You assume jesus in the savior, he's your personal saviour. You have no proof outwith the bible that jesus is god. Then again Hindus would laugh at your claims as would Muslems its only your personal bias towards your religion (and theirs) that makes you both discredit each other. Science is just being used by creationists for their own religious agendas and bias claims.
MsOneiroi77 5 months ago
@MsOneiroi77 I like your way of ignorantly discrediting a solid argument by not understanding philosophy. Horrific philosophy is probably why you believe what you do. A single God is logical. It is illogical for multiple gods because there could only be one creator. That is all that is necessary. You need to think about how the universe was created before you say I'm wrong. Chances are you ignore it or say no one knows how it came from nothing. Hawking says it just appeared. How?
willlovesjennifer 5 months ago
@willlovesjennifer Really, I actually do think about how the universe came about and where should there be room for a creator if need be? In fact why should there be room for your creator? Bhrama in the Hindu scriptures stated the universe is billions of years old. This agrees with science therefore the Hindu crreation myths trump your creation myths. If people agree to a god (with no concrete evidence) you'll twist it to Jesus in 5 minutes. No the tag of Horrific philosophy lies at your feet.
MsOneiroi77 5 months ago
@MsOneiroi77 What did you think when you thought about how the universe came about? I studied Hinduism and Buddhism so don't feel any need to describe it to me as if I were ignorant of other religions. Before you even bring up my philosophies I would like to know if you have any education in that area. If not I don't understand why you are trying to criticize me.
willlovesjennifer 5 months ago
@willlovesjennifer criticism where criticism is due, you think the Christian god is the creator but there is no evidence out with your holy book. Others with just as much religious training will disagree preferring their own personal god. To believe in a creator god is fine its a claim with just as much evidence for Oden, Zeus, Bhrama. It may have happened sadly your beliefs (and other people’s don’t count). The Universe is a mystery you can’t solve and science is trying to answer.
MsOneiroi77 5 months ago
@willlovesjennifer How can you interfere with spacetime, without being inside of it? It is like saying you can stirr thing up, looking at a fish tank. The thing with spacetime; if you do anything, then you are part of time. Time is the actions in a sequence.
Ko252 5 months ago
@Ko252 How can you believe space and time always existed? Time is a measurement of change. Everything changes right? Wrong. For existence something has to have been there, therefore that something would be impervious to change and time. You understand everything did not just always exist it all had to have an origin.
willlovesjennifer 5 months ago
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@willlovesjennifer You ask me? You say GOD made the universe and intervene in our lives, and still is outside time and space? How can you act, without being a victum of time and space? No, everything doesnt change. I have havnt said that. "You understand everything did not just always exist it all had to have an origin. " So you do believe GOD has an origin? If not, your argument is false, and same argument can be used for the universe.
Ko252 5 months ago
@Ko252 You haven't read anything I've said have you? Its above your frame of mind. Everything you see has an origin. That origin has to be from something that is solid and unmovable. That solid point is God. He lacks nothing and needs nothing. He needs no creation to exist because time is irrelevant when discussing the existence of God. He created time. Try to fathom it before responding the same way ignoring the reason. Tell me something you say doesn't change other than God?
willlovesjennifer 5 months ago
@Ko252 other than ideas that men can conceive
willlovesjennifer 5 months ago
@willlovesjennifer That isnt a proper answer, but more a rambling of a mad man.
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
Also if you knew what a theory was. It is a compiled amount of facts. Evolution is verified everyday by these facts. :) We are still waiting to find something inconsistent. When that happens, evolution can be thrown out the window, but it has held strong and only grown since 150 years ago.
ThorTheOdinSon 6 months ago
@ThorTheOdinSon I wouldn't say that it is completely verified. It has a lot of evidence but it is best to wait until the holes are figured out before basing too much off it. I'm weary to accept it as a fact.
willlovesjennifer 5 months ago
@willlovesjennifer We only base on what is verified, this is how science works.If your beef is with the scientists and their opinions than i agree.Too much is assumed and guessed by individual scientists,especially when they give there lectures or write articles.The great thing about a Consensus is just that though ,all this bias is filtered and whats left is non bias information. Information cannot have a opinoin therefore all it is, is evidence. I think we agree on more than you think.
ThorTheOdinSon 5 months ago
What holes would you have filled though before you can accept evolution? If you are thinking a theory can become a scientific law, you are mistaken. If you are thinking of the word theory with a conventional use of the term id advise you to take a look at my website I address this issue. A scientific theory is often mistaken to mean hypothesis in all conventional use of the word. Especially by christian apologists!
ThorTheOdinSon 5 months ago
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ThorTheOdinSon 6 months ago
Whoa... I live near north Brunswick nj.. Weird..
rockrulles3456 6 months ago
Wow this makes me glad I'm not an atheist:
life is meaningless... anyone can do whatever they want....
MH5tube 6 months ago
@MH5tube "Life is meaningless... anyone can do whatever they want..." That's total bullshit. How do you explain places like Norway or Japan? Based on your logic, these should be the worst places on the planet and yet in reality, these are amongst the healthiest and least violent places. It's entirely possible to have morals without religion. Dumb statement. I reccomend you watch: Why do people laugh at creationists? (part 29).
incomprehensible14 6 months ago
@incomprehensible14 Some of the nicest people I know are atheists. But my point is that there's no reason to have morals if you are an atheist.
MH5tube 6 months ago
@MH5tube Yes there is. We need morals in order to live with other people. Same reason Pirahna don't eat other Pirahna and Wolves co-operate in packs.
lewisner 6 months ago
@MH5tube ...and my point is please watch: { Why do people laugh at creationists? (part 29) }. It's on youtube. Also, bare in mind that people who only do good out of fear of Yahweh in fact actually have no morals because what they're doing is no different from complying with an armed bank robber. Further more, since in christianity Yahweh forgives everything and his opinion is the only one that counts, many use that to justify all kinds of wrong doings. Hitler is a perfect example of this.
incomprehensible14 6 months ago
@incomprehensible14 I don't obey out of fear but out of love and thankfulness. Also, there is one sin that God cannot forgive: rejection of the Holy Spirit.
MH5tube 6 months ago
@MH5tube ...and fear. Don't forget fear. It's the most important part. Otherwise, there'd be no point to even mentioning hell in the bible. But I'm sure we nonchristians could get Yahweh to change his mind about sending us to hell just like Moses got him to change his mind about murdering the Israelites and sending them to hell in Exodus32: 14. How strange that an omniscient being needs advice from mortals. Stranger still that he'd contradict himself in 1Samuel15: 29:/
incomprehensible14 6 months ago
@MH5tube Please watch: { Why do people laugh at creationists? (part 29) }.
incomprehensible14 6 months ago
@MH5tube i thought to be a believer you had to be "godfearing" .. and than believers say that you shouldnt fear god??? makes no sense in my opinion
rockrulles3456 6 months ago
@rockrulles3456 I'm not AFRAID of God. I RESPECT God and understand His power.
MH5tube 6 months ago
@MH5tube so you're saying that you're not godfearing?
rockrulles3456 6 months ago
@rockrulles3456 *facepalm*
MH5tube 6 months ago
@MH5tube sry, i dont speak "douchbag"
rockrulles3456 6 months ago
@MH5tube You also FEAR him. Otherwise, there'd be no point to even mentioning hell in the bible. Wouldn't want a bunch of people pretending to be christian out of FEAR hanging around the church. We nonchristians could just get Jehovah to change his mind about sending us to hell just like Moses got him to change his mind about sending the Israelites to hell in Exodus32: 14. Strange that an omniscient being would need a mortal's advice. Stranger still that he'd contradict himself in 1Samuel15: 29.
incomprehensible14 6 months ago 5
@MH5tube From an atheist point of view, life is NOT meaningless and you cannot do whatever you want. There are laws and moral compasses to live by. Life is just as beautiful to an atheist as it should be to everyone else. I believe in human kind solving it's own problems, not invisible beings. Humanity > Gods. And if you think about it, a theist, believing in 1 god, is still 99% atheist, not believing in Thor, Buddha, Muhammad, etc. I'm just 100% atheist, don't believe in ANY gods.
wildsmiley 6 months ago
@wildsmiley Why dont you just think on that one for a while...
MH5tube 6 months ago
@MH5tube Think about what? I'm happy with my life without worshiping cruel, invisible beings. I'm happy as hell not believing in a book full of bigotry, genocide and impossibilities. I LOVE learning more and more, and the FACT of evolution constantly amazes me. I have faith in no gods, but in humankind, and what we can (should) do for each other.
wildsmiley 6 months ago
@wildsmiley ...God isn't cruel, he's loving, and punishment is part of love. Parents who don't love their kids dont punish them. Second, evolution is not "FACT". It has not been proven and never will.
Consider this: Do you believe the universe had a beginning?
MH5tube 6 months ago
@MH5tube Send bears to murder some kids? Stone your child. Kill your children if they do not believe. Or if they are unruly. Rules on how to beat keep and mark your slaves. Kill homosexuals. Kill anyone that attempts to persuade you from your family to another god. Let me guess what your response is. "That's all in the old testament." Than why does Jesus use one of these as a example, showing the people that they no longer fallow Gods laws. They only fallow tradition.
ThorTheOdinSon 6 months ago
@ThorTheOdinSon i know part of it is from the ten commandments. and those are still continued into the new covenant, but the rest of Jesus's quote is only pre stated in Deuteronomy and a few other books. When God is giving Moses and the Israelite's that are leaving Egypt, the rest of the laws about slaves and what not. Not either times in the bible does it say "Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death." when giving the commandments. You have been conned!
ThorTheOdinSon 6 months ago
Mark 7 9-13And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions! 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’[d] and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’ 11 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)—
ThorTheOdinSon 6 months ago
12 then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.”
ThorTheOdinSon 6 months ago
@MH5tube HE KILLS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE in the bible! How is that loving? By your definition, Hitler must have been the most loving person who ever lived!! Which as any sane person would know, is bullshit. Same deal with this god of yours. And EVOLUTION has been proven fact. By just about every scientist and almost every field you can come across. There are buckets of proof for evidence. There is NO proof for God, the Ark story or Adam & Eve. NONE. This universe had a beginning: the big bang.
wildsmiley 6 months ago
@wildsmiley Because HITLER KILLED PEOPLE FOR NO REASON! There is a difference between genocide and punishment, which apparently you don't understand!
MH5tube 6 months ago
@MH5tube Hitler did not kill people for no reason. He believed that if people were of the wrong race, or "genetically deficient", or homosexual, then they should be destroyed to prevent them from polluting the gene pool of superior people. In that sense, his genocide was exactly like God's, as displayed in the Bible. Hitler thought he was doing the work of God.
Crunchy68 6 months ago
@MH5tube You don't punish people like god did in the Bible. He "punished" people WITH genocide. And, as Crunchy68 said, Hitler had his so-called reasons he killed people. And he did it in the name of his Christian god, the very same on as yours. Crack a history book. Was your god telling Hitler to "punish" the Jews just as he did to a good chunk of mankind in the bible? I'm banking on that you're a smart guy, so you know that murder is always wrong. Genocide is wrong, even if it's done by a god.
wildsmiley 6 months ago 10
@wildsmiley Hitler HATED Christians dont know where you got that....
MH5tube 6 months ago
@MH5tube Uh, no, Hitler WAS Christian.
wildsmiley 6 months ago
@wildsmiley HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I cant do this...
MH5tube 6 months ago
@MH5tube Well, I'm sorry if you weren't aware that Hitler was a theist...what did you think he was??
wildsmiley 6 months ago
@wildsmiley Theist =/= Christian by any means.
Hitler said, and I quote, "The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."
Sans Adolf Hitler, this quote could be from ANY misguided humanist.
MH5tube 6 months ago
@MH5tubeTheism definition: "Belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in a personal God as creator and ruler of the world.
wildsmiley 6 months ago
@wildsmiley Hinduism is theistic... note the word 'especially' in the definition. It didn't say only.
MH5tube 6 months ago
@MH5tube also, Hitler once said: "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter."
Geesh, quoting Hitler makes me want to take a long, cold shower. Makes me skin crawl, that evil bastard.
wildsmiley 6 months ago 5
@wildsmiley I know, right.
But really. Why are we even bothering to go over this whole Hitler thing. I mean, we can all agree he was an evil psychopath who was clearly out of his mind.
MH5tube 6 months ago
@MH5tube
All of Hitler's soldiers had the words "In God We Trust" on their buckles.
B4gle 6 months ago
@MH5tube Well, of course, he might be history's most awful person pretty much ever. But the point is, I was just disagreeing with you about Hitler being a believer.
wildsmiley 6 months ago
@wildsmiley How is murder always wrong? To pseudo-quote the best comic ever written, namely Watchmen: is it wrong to kill millions to save billions? And if it is, then why, and based on what?
Ko252 5 months ago
@wildsmiley To be fair, "god" was pretty inventive when it came to murder. I mean, turning somebody into a pillar of salt....even Hitler never tried that.
lewisner 3 months ago
To your statement on evolution. Use the internet more productively. You must be completely ignorant to the world around you. Your a progression creationist? Or a young earther?
ThorTheOdinSon 6 months ago
the meaning of life is to survive and keep your genetic proporties in the human race, so just keep fucking
Willnash666 6 months ago
exaktly:)
charliecolemanmends 6 months ago
"What's the purpose of life?" That's an easy one - in fact, it has two answers:
a) there isn't one;
b) whatever I/YOU want it to be.
The fact that there might not be somebody else's purpose (to which they can blindly adhere) hanging over a theist terrifies them. Pitiable.
JMUDoc 6 months ago
"watch?v=rszSNATl14s" ;)
TerratenienteFox 6 months ago
My teacher is a christian. Thank God for people without BS detectors, because otherwise I'd be failing. Well, actually it would just be more difficult.
Thatmakessense356 6 months ago
Christian: "My moral spinner landed on genocide today..."
Thatmakessense356 6 months ago 3
@Thatmakessense356 LOL xD Can I please quote that?
MrEvitcartta 6 months ago
@MrEvitcartta Quote anything you want.
Thatmakessense356 6 months ago
Richard Dawkins had a great answer to this question stating that it is a question that begs the question - just because we can vocalize it, doesn't mean that it is some sort of a great question.
antitheistnow 7 months ago
I think the purpose of life is to obtain knowlege or information because without that what would you do
mattplasse88 7 months ago
how the world has changed in 2000 years. society has become so independent and politicaly correct that someday soon it will be illegal to express free thought and beliefs. being religious is like the colour of your skin, you just cant change who you are. be accepting of us and respectful and just let us go on with our ways and ideas. i strongly dont believe in going door to door tho trying to recruit athiest to your church. if they are to be religious 1day let god speak to them, not you
44redman1 7 months ago
The argument that I think I've heard from atheists is not whether there is a god or not, but that the question is totally irrelevant. So, they keep performing experiments where they can understand the very nature of creation and keep missing the very evidence that God exists that is presented by their own experiments.
MrItchyElbow 7 months ago
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@MrItchyElbow "[E]vidence that God exists"? Do tell.
nichtmuttersprachler 7 months ago
I am the god of Israel (the Jews)
Do not kill another Jew
Do not steal from another Jew
Do not bring into question the legitimacy of another Jew's offspring by having sex with his wife
Do not accuse another Jew falsely
Do not desire another Jew's property (goods, wife or ass)
EvenGodsSuffer 8 months ago
You want to know how to send door-to-door religion salespeople away as non-believers? Here's how I did it with some young Mormons: I invited them in and showed them a ten-minute clip of George Carlin talking about religion. It's a well-known clip, just search "george carlin religion" and it comes right up.
oddballcourt 8 months ago
the guy in the white shirt is way to giddy lol
sammanslap 9 months ago
you gotta love dan's laugh :D
horbergus 9 months ago
Jeff is wearing a Serenity shirt! Hell yea! I like this show even more now.
RaggedM88 9 months ago 2
the reason for "genocide" in the old testament was for the geneology of Christ to be preserved so he could come. If you look and see who it happened to you can plainly see this
RedDead888 9 months ago
@RedDead888
That's the most pathetic rationalization of the bible I've ever heard. It happened to the enemies of the people who wrote the biblical stories, end of story. Once more, might makes right.
TheTexanCanadian 9 months ago
@AnglicanApologist72 god exists you moron. you shall go to hell for not believing in jesus!
MrFaulconbridge 9 months ago
@MrFaulconbridge trooololololol
sammanslap 9 months ago
Purpose of life: ?
Purpose of nonlife: ?
Why does either have to have one?
Falloutglitch 9 months ago
I know what the purpose of life is... It's to make poo! lol
atchisrj1 10 months ago
the purpose of life is nothing actually just to live, experience and survive. people are animals and like animals we have no divine reason to be. we exist to continue this endless evolutionary cycle.
NOVAGIRL666 10 months ago
Despite my persisting theism, I'm enjoying these videos. Love how you guys actually think stuff through and pick a side, rather than just ignore it or be a wishy-washy agnostic or fake religious person, like so many.
But really the purpose of this comment is to say: awesome Serenity shirt, dude.
AlexandraHouse 10 months ago
@AlexandraHouse That comment was adorable. :) I am also bothered when people refuse to admit how they really feel.
LicoriceLain 9 months ago
@AlexandraHouse You know, being an agnostic doesn't mean you are "wishy washy". It just means you believe it is unknown and probably unknowable to humans (including muslims and christians), and you don't have an opinion. Sadly, there is an outbreak of fools out there that call themselves agnostic and seem to think it's some fence sitting position between atheism and theism. If anything, it's a cross between atheism and DEISM. The word most of them should be going by is "undecided", not agnostic.
incomprehensible14 9 months ago 3
@incomprehensible14 being agnostic is probably close to the most logical decision you can make. As an agnostic, one is brave enough to admit that they do not have control over their destiny and don't know the meaning of life. and that should be a good thing, rather than pretentiously assuming that they have found the "path of righteousness" and picking a specific religeon that they have no real way of validating.
sammanslap 9 months ago
@sammanslap And that's how you pretend your viewpoint is right by asserting all other viewpoints think they're right and are therefore wrong.
PhobicOne 8 months ago
@PhobicOne absolutely not. you seem to believe it necessary for me to "pretend" that my viewpoint is correct when really i am analyzing all viewpoints, recognizing their similar logical flaws and contradictions, and then avoiding to settle for their incomplete explanation of the purpose of life. my previous comment should have had more emphasis on the word "validate" because their strong assumption that they are correct is only half of the problem.
sammanslap 8 months ago
@sammanslap There is no bravery in being an agnostic. Instead, there's the erroneous assumption that calling yourself atheist (OH SHIT HE SAID IT) means you assert there is no God in the same positive sense that theists assert there is one. The mistake is rather than believing there is no God atheists don't believe in a God. Back to agnostics: Rather than allowing yourself to contemplate that there is in all likelihood no God, agnostics compromise by not believing in any God that's been proposed
PhobicOne 8 months ago
@PhobicOne my personal definition of agnosticism is more of a simple skepticism of all gods/religions. i have learned form this conversation that i clearly need to be more careful in labeling my beliefs, lest i antagonize sensitive youtube members such as yourself. the reason i believe there is "in all likelihood" no god, is because i do not believe in any god that has been proposed. If I had learned of a god/religion that was compelling enough, perhaps i would believe in that god. (cont'd)
sammanslap 8 months ago
@PhobicOne (cont'd) if i was more confident in my belief that there was no god, then i would label myself as atheist. I find it beneficial to use a more intermediate term such as agnostic so that i am not pressured to back up beliefs which i do not yet have strong evidence for.
sammanslap 8 months ago
@sammanslap Sadly, there is no intermediate in a question such as "is there a god?". There is either a positive claim, in which you must find evidence to prove your hypothesis, or a negative claim, which is the default position on any idea which is introduced. I get it if you're afraid to call yourself atheist, as so many theists (especially in America) positively HATE anyone who calls themselves one, but that doesn't mean the position isn't a very solid one.
PhobicOne 8 months ago
@sammanslap Oh, and about "antagonizing sensitive youtube members such as myself": Being smug is bound to piss off anyone, just just sensitive little flowers like myself.
PhobicOne 8 months ago
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sammanslap 8 months ago
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sammanslap 8 months ago
@sammanslap Don't remove your apology, babe, not when we were making progress :(
PhobicOne 8 months ago
@PhobicOne well at least now i know the "deleted comments" show up in the inbox anyway. im not taking back the apology, i rephrased it.
sammanslap 8 months ago
@sammanslap And that you did. *stares into the distance*
Well, I've lost interest in this conversation. Continue on, I'll just nod and agree with you.
PhobicOne 8 months ago
@PhobicOne =P
sammanslap 8 months ago
@PhobicOne my original point was not aimed toward atheists. i did not intend to be smug. i was pointing out that people need to stop choosing sides simply for comfort. sometimes when arguing with religious people, they don't even remotely take what you are saying into consideration partly because they are afraid that they have lived a lie and dont want to admit it to themselves. thats the only reason i used the word "bravery".
sammanslap 8 months ago
@AlexandraHouse I consider myself an empirical agnostic, but I assure you that I have most definitely picked a side.
incomprehensible14 9 months ago
Awesome, Jeff's wearing a Serenity t-shirt.
ThirdRAILKink 10 months ago
Debating with Theists is like trying to swim UP Niagra Falls.
VinnyMonster1 11 months ago
Exodus 22:18 "Thou Shalt Never Suffer A Witch To Live"
So if you're a christian and your friend is a Wicca, you have to kill them according to the bible.
VinnyMonster1 11 months ago
Honestly, in a world without a god, I think the answer to the question of purpose is rather simple.
The only universal purpose is to survive and live out our lives as happily as possible.
Any other meaning is what meaning we make for ourselves. If we want to spend our time learning as much as possible, great.
One's purpose could be to find love and raise a family together.
Or, a person could waste their time worshiping someone they'll never know.
It's our choice, and the choices are endless.
Seraph821 11 months ago
debating theists is like playing tic tac toe. you can only win by not playing at all
JohnF30Music 11 months ago