Hadrah Al Hidayah 2006

[waqasahmedamin]

The Ethiopians danced in front of the Messenger of Allah (s); dancing and saying [in their language], "Muhammad is a righteous servant." The Prophet (s) said, "What are they saying?" And they said, "'Muhammad is a righteous servant'" (Musnad al-Imam Ahmad. 6 vols. Cairo 1313/1895. Reprint. Beirut: Dar Sadir, n.d., 3.152) All the narrators are those of Bukhari except Hammad ibn Salama, who is one of the narrators of Muslim.

[truthhurts81]

we dont need anymore breakups in our Ummah, we are already in such a mess because of the Illuminati/Freemason 'divide and conquer' motto

Islaam = UNITE not DISUNITE

Islaam = UNIFORM but that doesnt mean UNIFORMITY..we are not robots so if people are doing things differently than you then so be it,would you rather them sing the latest beyonce track or praise Allahs name?

LOOK INTO HEMPHERS DIARIES FOR MORE OF AN INSIGHT INTO THE DIVIDE AND RULE POLICY WITH SPECIFIC REFERENCE TO ISLAAM

[safo92]

Masha'Allah, Hadra was outta this world!!!

JEEVAY JEEVAY - TAHIR JEEVAY!!

[truthhurts81]

did you attend ?

[safo92]

Yes Alhamdulillah i was fortunate enough to have the chance to attend. It was amazin!

[AuthenticSunnah]

Imaam Ahmad (rahimahullah) said, "The fundamental principles of the sunnah with us are... avoiding innovations and every innovation is misguidance" [Usul as-Sunnah of Imaam Ahmad pg.1]

[truthhurts81]

You have taken this Hadith well out of context,

You using your comptuer for Islaam is a Bidah and you are guilty for that? so your own concept/teachings go against you!

The Qur'aan with formed in a full book style after ALLAHS MESSENGER (PBUH) and are you guna say thats misguidance also?

SINCERE ADVICE: be careful with what you learn and what you teach, as you will be accountable for everything you say, ALLAH says that 'they thought their words were simple but in Allahs eyes, gross!

[AuthenticSunnah]

Imaam Maalik (rahimahullah) said, "He, who innovates an innovation in Islam regarding it as something good, has claimed that Muhammad (sallallahu alahi wa-sallam) has betrayed his trust to deliver the message as Allah says: "This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion" [Soorah Al-Maidah (5): 4] [al-I'tisaam]

[AuthenticSunnah]

2. He also said, "...so cling to the original state of affairs" [al-Hilya 6/376] meaning stick to the way of Muhammad (sallallahu alahi wa-sallam) and Companions.

Imaam Abu Haneefah (rahimahullah) said, "Stick to the narrations and the way of the salaf, and beware of the newly invented matters for all of it is innovation" [Sawnul Muntaq of as-Suyutee pg.32]

[AuthenticSunnah]

Bid'ah is more Beloved to Shaytaan than Sinning Sufyaan ath-Thawree (rahimahullah) said: "Innovations are more beloved to Shaytaan than sin. Since a sin may be repented from but an innovation is not repented" [Sharh Usul I'tiqaad of al-Laalikaa'ee (d.414) no.238]

This is because the innovator believes that he is doing something good and therefore sees no need to repent.

[waqasahmedamin]

The Ethiopians danced in front of the Messenger of Allah (s); dancing and saying [in their language], "Muhammad is a righteous servant." The Prophet (s) said, "What are they saying?" And they said, "'Muhammad is a righteous servant'" (Musnad al-Imam Ahmad. 6 vols. Cairo 1313/1895. Reprint. Beirut: Dar Sadir, n.d., 3.152) All the narrators are those of Bukhari except Hammad ibn Salama, who is one of the narrators of Muslim.

[waqasahmedamin]

hahahaha!!!a minute ago u were acting like a wannabe scholar thinking u knew it all..but still can't prove such simple stuff through your own logic..i used your own evidences against you and you couldn't stick to the discussion or answer simple questions like the permissability of quranic digital recitation...you can't even give me one hadith or verse to say hadra is impermissable instead you turned to insults hence i don't need to reply to you coz you can't answer or stick to the discussion

[waqasahmedamin]

I am still willing to take on your viewpoint... my mind is still open if only you can give me one hadith that specifically says that standing up and remembering allah is wrong or zikr with movements is wrong, atleast then i can consider the facts for my self. but on my side their is a direct and explicit hadith on permissability but no such hadith on its impermisibility... just speaking about bidah doesn't answer the question its what politicians do when they dodge questions by not answering it

[waqasahmedamin]

but its proven that its not a new zikr give an evidence that proves that it is wrong. has the holy prophet s told us that it is wrong has he forbidden us from doing zikr standing when quran says so? what about listening to quran on cd and ipods why do you follow your own desire and astray from the sunnah. prove to me that listening to quran on mp3 is correct.. its ok obstructing the topic of discussion by talking about something random like bidah but what evidence do u have that says its wrong?

[AhlulSunnah1]

1. Typical Ahlul Biddah or should I say Bareilvi Rhetoric? When truth is hurled at falsehood it bashes its brains out, for falsehood is doomed to perish! Is that the best response you could give? Just abusing and calling names, you need to seriously grow up!! You did not even answer one of my simple questions! Typical Barelvi nature! Evade at all costs! Yet you are quick to counter attack with your questions. What's this obsession with the mp3 player? The classic Barelvi Mp3 Quran riddle!!

[AhlulSunnah1]

2. You asked me the same question in almost every paragraph! I almost fell asleep! Just ask a question once, instead of going in circles! Instead of getting angry, you could have been a bit more productive and quoted a few Hadith or Quranic verses to back up your rhetoric! But I have to admit I really do find you entertaining!! Bareilvis are like a Bolloywood film, if you've seen one, you've seen them all! In your fit of anger, you ignorantly called me a Wahabi! How wrong you are!

[AhlulSunnah1]

3. Do you people have no shame and decency?? Are their no limits to your pathetic name calling, abusive and abrasive tongues?? SubhanAllah, even Allah(swt) is not free from your double edged swords!! You Ignorant people have taken one of Allah(swt) beautiful names Al-Wahab, and turned it into a filthy, dirty, derogatory swear!! Yet you all hypocritically jump up and down and dance like clowns claiming to praise Allah(swt)!! It's you people that are the wolves in sheeps clothing!!

[AhlulSunnah1]

4. The British at least had an excuse; they don't worship Al-Wahab! Yet you ignorant people claim to be the real followers of Al-Wahab! You deceive no one but yourselves!! Deaf, dumb and blind!! You Barelvis have taken Allah(swt) beautiful name, and then use it to describe Dogs! Yes, you people have made the name Al-Wahab synonymous with the word Dog! Glory be to Allah(swt) far is He removed from the things they attribute to him!! Shirk is the Barelvis claim to fame!!

[waqasahmedamin]

if your such a staight follower then do me a favour give me evidence that listening to quran digitally is from the sunnah... because it wasn't practised by the salaf..you still can;t give me evidence for this..what about a hadith that says hadra is wrong you quote a random topic like bidah but cant stick to the topic give a direct evidence that says hadra is wrong did the holy prophet s say hadra is wrong he told us everything why didn;t he not say hadra is wrong if it is wrong..give us evidence

[waqasahmedamin]

you contradict your own self with your own comments which translate below: zafan is to dance, and it is similiar to dancing.. note is similiar to dancing after saying it is dancing.. in the hadith of fatimah one meaning is playing and another meaning is dancing according to the hadith of aaisha... so our intepretation is not wrong... hence, this should be left to scholar let us practise according to our understanding and u ur own..our view is based within the sunnah...

[waqasahmedamin]

your just fooling yourself when you know zafn is similiar to dancing and hadra is not a full dance it reminds us of it but is not so... read your own comment which proves how your here just to confuse people.. hadith aaisha yazfanun wa yal'abun ay YARQASUN... this blatantly says that there were dancing... if hadra is not permissable then this means dancing in general should be allowed.. if that is so..why can we not dance and rememeber allah and prophet instead of dancing for other than that.?

[waqasahmedamin]

if zikr is a fundamental of deen then why is it we don;t have 6 pillars instead of five... valentines and easter can easily be lined out coz valentines is based on zina and easter on the crucification of christ... the rememberance of the birth of isa can be found in the quran... hence, this logic that all is permisable unless the quran and sunnah declare it forbidden still stands. but what about digital quran recitation... prove this to me from a direct reference from the quran and sunnah.

[waqasahmedamin]

havent you read surah nisa..allah tells you which women are forbidden then he tells you everywomen other than these are permissable.. or about meat.. certain meat are haram like pig, those not slaughtered with allahs name.. and all other meat other than are permissable... this is a direct logic from the quran. and the logic of majority of scholars... why haven't you tried to prove digital quran recitation.. prove to me from the sunnah that this is permisable.??

[waqasahmedamin]

U say anything that contradicts and opposes the messenger s is destined for hell fire but in order to show that something is contradictory you need to prove that is contradictory... thus give me evidences from the quran and sunnah that says doing hadra saying allahu together is wrong... with clear text...simply quoting all innovation are misguidance doesn't answer my questions.. there must be a direct hadith that has forbidden zikr standing, in a group, saying allahs name. give an explicit proof

[waqasahmedamin]

Ur such a wannabe scholar get a life. people with knowledge don't waste their time looking for debates on youtube. plus, calling yourself ahlus sunnah is a misnomer... you resemble wahhabism in ur understanding... your a blatant wolf in sheeps clothing...when a hadith clearly says zafn which is similiar to dancing then it proves it is a scholarly disupute but not bidah leave it to scholars to decide.. imam nawawi has spoken of its permissabilty and has put conditions... so who are you?

[sktfucker212]

do they think that they r doing the right thing ? ya allah , i feel sorry for them , that old man leads them to jhannam

[sktfucker212]

may allah lead u and lead kabbani to the right way ( allah way ) not kabbani way , and remmber when u need anything from allah u go for do3a2 to allah not to anybody elss even saydna mohmmad , say ya allah ya rbb ya wa7ed ya a7ad , dont say people names , salam 3alaykom

[AhlulSunnah1]

6. "Who ever does a deed that is not upon our affair, then it is Rejected" (Saheeh Muslim)

From these Hadeeth you can clearly see the evidence that every action which is not legislated in the Sharee'ah must be rejected!!!

"And who is more astray then one who follows his own lust (desires) without the guidance from Allah (revelation)" [Soorah Al-Qasas 28: 50]

[waqasahmedamin]

The Ethiopians danced in front of the Messenger of Allah (s); dancing and saying [in their language], "Muhammad is a righteous servant." The Prophet (s) said, "What are they saying?" And they said, "'Muhammad is a righteous servant'" (Musnad al-Imam Ahmad. 6 vols. Cairo 1313/1895. Reprint. Beirut: Dar Sadir, n.d., 3.152) All the narrators are those of Bukhari except Hammad ibn Salama, who is one of the narrators of Muslim.

[AhlulSunnah1]

As Salaam u Alaykum Brother, I pray you are well. I'm aware of the Hadeeth you have quoted and its authenticity. Brother, I would like you to explain to me the exact context of this Hadeeth? Also are the people in this video saying exactly word for word, and doing action for action the exact Sunnah of the Habashis (Ethiopians)?

[waqasahmedamin]

ur stupidity is even more evident? stop trying to be a wannabe scholar and if you have any problem refer to the actual source. difference of style is a matter of ijtihad but the asl basis is still found is sunnah, hence scholars can agree or disagree but it can't be bidah: do u ever listen to quran on cd, mp3, ipod why not prove that from sunnah, when did the salaf listen to quran digitally, the quran is the word of allah and should be transmitted through people, this has no bases in shariah?

[waqasahmedamin]

i obviously don't believe its wrong but im only applying your dumb logic to things. everything is permissable unless the quran and sunnah declares it forbidden. innovation only refers to those acts that are an addition to the fundamentals of islam, zikr is not a fundamental of religion, it is just recommended. innovation refers to things like qadyanis, those who claim prophethood, nation of islam, deniers of zakah, people who reject the wajibaat of islam like the 5 pillars or add to them is bida

[AhlulSunnah1]

Moreover, the Ethiopians were praising RasullAllah (saws) and not making Dhikr! They were also practicing with spears,which comes under military training/sport! This was the Ethiopians culture and Sunnah! Our Mother Aisha(ra) being young and curious wanted to have a look,so RasullAllah(saws) allowed her to have a peek whilst hiding and screening herself behind the Messenger of Allah(swt). It is very farfetched and desperate that Dhikr is proven, let alone dancing is proven from this Hadeeth!

[AhlulSunnah1]

11. The people participating in this Hadra are holding hands whilst standing in circles, jumping up and down, rocking back and forth, and SHOUTING and SCREAMING in unison ALLAH! ALLAH! HU! HU! HU! And Not "Muhammad is a righteous servant". There are a number of these Hadra videos at the same Al-Hidayah event and none of them state "Muhammad is a righteous servant".

[waqasahmedamin]

prove firstly the permissability of digital recitation of the quran on mp2 players and ipods coz if what you say is true then digital quran players are also wrong because it has no such form in the sunnah... difference of form is a matter of ijtihad... plus i have evidence to prove that doing zikr in groups is permisable.

[AhlulSunnah1]

12. Did our beloved RasullAllah(saws) the best of creation and the most sincere to Allah(swt) or even the Sahabas(ra) remember their lord in this pathetic and weird manner?? No they did NOT!!!! Shaitan has made their ways deemed good to them! The people of ignorance and desires pay lip service to RasullAllah(saws) yet they totally appose His (saws) Sunnah! Let me ask you some questions and maybe you might just see sense;

[AhlulSunnah1]

13. Is it a part of your Aqeeda (belief) that the Messenger of Allah(swt) is the best of examples? Is the religion of Islam perfect? Did RasullAllah(saws) deliver the entire message of Islam to the Ummah? Would you agree RasullAllah(saws) did not leave a stone unturned? Would you agree He(saws) taught us everything we need to know regarding Deen-ul-Islam? Would you agree that RasullAllah(saws) did the Best Ibadah, Dhikr etc???

[AhlulSunnah1]

And He(saws) also commanded us, to reject everything, which has no basis in the religion saying: "Whosoever does an action, which we have not commanded then it must be rejected." [Saheeh Muslim]

"Whosoever introduces into this religion of ours that which is not a part of it then it must be rejected" [Musnad Ahmad]

Aisha(ra) related that the Prophet(saws) said "Who ever introduces into this matter of ours that which is not from it, then it is Rejected" (Saheeh Bukhari and Muslim).

[AhlulSunnah1]

"I have left with you two matters;you will not go astray as long as you adhere to them: Allah's book and the Sunnah of His Messenger"(Related by Malik with a mursal chain,and by Al-Hakim from the hadith of Ibn Abbas(ra),with a hasan chain)

And He (saws) used to declare at the beginning of his lectures,"And the best speech is the Speech of Allah,and the best guidance is the guidance of Muhammad(saws),and the worst of all affairs are the Newly invented matters (in the religion)"[Saheeh Muslim]

[AhlulSunnah1]

3. Allah says in the Qur'aan: "This day have I PERFECTED your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion" [Soorah Maidah 5: 4]

In regards to this Prophet Muhammad(saws) said: "I warn you of the newly invented matters (in the religion), and every newly invented matter is an innovation, and every innovation is misguidance, and every misguidance is in the Hellfire" [An-Nasa'ee]

[majomkmk]

Salaam

I remember this hadrah it was so amazing!

I was one of the lucky sisters on the balcony from where we could see Shaykh-ul-Islam and Shaykh As Sagharji...it was beautiful - never experienced anything like it!!

[habeeba786]

salam just wana say tht if you ppl r arguing over the BEAUTIFUL practice of Hadra then attend al-hidayah next year and ask Shaykh-ul-islam urselves because he will provide the answers to all your questions.

He is a man who follows the Sunnah as best as he can and wouldnt lie.

[Tah78691]

subhanallah, that was amazing to see again!.. brings back great memories!

[habeeba786]

sure does

mashallah

[mercyanpeace]

very very veryveryveryvery beautiful

[Abdul104point5]

ever read the Quran? give it a try, maybe you'll find out. dee dee dee

[Abdul104point5]

if anyone thinks there's no spiritual side to islam just think how is it that rasulullah went up to the 7 heavens and met all the past prophets?

[nextman6515]

omg its been explained to you hundred times and u stil dont get it - im sorry,bt your being so ignorant.

[mx56ebc]

ok explain to me, which companions of our Prophet (pbuh) from the 3 generation did what the people in the video are doing?

[nextman6515]

<strong>mashallah<strong>

[sufigal1]

Subhanallah you can just see the nor (light) from this place.Mashallah May Allah bless these people and also the person who posted this video.

[Abdul104point5]

Allah is light of the universe. When we were created Allah blew his light into each of us. Light is a form of energy. Energy is something you can feel. Allah says in the Quran, "I am closer to you than your jugular vein". Now if Allah is that close to us what would that mean, He is inside us, He is part of us, He is the owner of our body and the shaitan in all of us is just renting it until we get rid of him.

[Abdul104point5]

when most people see a police car they slow down because they fear they may get a speeding ticket. but if they have a radar detector they'll know when to slow down so they wont be scared anymore. similarly if you can feel Allah inside you, you wont do wrong because you will know he is there.

[Abdul104point5]

mx56ebc who are you to say what the rasulullah did or didn't do? were you there with him 1400 years ago I think not. why is it that christians, jews, and hindus believe in some sort of spiriuality but most muslims don't, they consider it biddah, i don't understand this. how could something which connects a person to their creator be wrong.

[mx56ebc]

I can say from what i know what he did or didnt do. And we get this information from Sahih Hadith. Our Prophet (pbuh) performed all the types of Ibadah which he thought were beneficial. To say he didnt do Zikr in this way is to say he missed a form of Ibadah, which u now think is important? Who knows best,you or our Prophet?

[nextman6515]

"Who knows best,you or our Prophet?"

we can ask you the same question.

[mx56ebc]

I can answer that question, by sayin our Prophet (pbuh) knew best, thats why we do what he did, and we dont do what he didnt.

[nextman6515]

we can also answer the question. The Prophet said, "The people of my generation are the best, then those who follow them, and then whose who follow the latter"- therefore we look for guidance not only from the sunnah of rasool (saw) but also the sahabah, the tabieen and the taba tabieen.

[Abdul104point5]

i am not saying i know best and what "you" just said is "biddah" because you compared me to rasulullah. there is no doubt rasulullah knows best.

[Abdul104point5]

i am not saying i know best and what "you" just said is "biddah" because you compared me to rasulullah. there is no doubt rasulullah knows best.

[Abdul104point5]

im not saying i know best but whatever anyone does is between them and their lord, it is not for you to decide what is biddah or what isn't.

[mx56ebc]

If we aren't to decide what is right or what is wrong, then who is?

[Abdul104point5]

im not saying i know best but whatever anyone does is between them and their lord, it is not for you to decide what is biddah or what isn't.

[mx56ebc]

And it is because of this very Bid'ah that people among the Muslim Ummah differ with each other, causing sects to form. If we all stuck to the Sunnah without innovating, every Muslim would have the same view as the other, resulting in no differences.

[waqasahmedamin]

Type in: "Urdu Sheikh talking about Dhikr Zikr and Hadra With Sheikh Babikr" in google video and you will find a lecture proving our point from the Sunna.

video. google. co. uk/ videoplay?docid=-6030810722294­053004&q=hadra+tahir&total=15&­start=10&num=10&so=0&type=sear­ch&plindex=4 Check out this link... This will prove it is from the Sunna!

[mx56ebc]

Can you actually picture our Prophet(pbuh) and his companions, singing and swaying back and forth as is being done in the video? I dont think so.

[mx56ebc]

Surah Ma'ida, Verse 3: "this day I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you and have chosen for you Islaam as your religion."

Therefore, any INNOVATION INTRODUCED INTO RELIGION implies that Islaam is imperfect and incomplete.

[harmoudi07]

I agree with ibndavechappel - peace out

[harmoudi07]

this is not from Allah, this is created by people, which came up with all the moves and rules. This is not the true meaning of sufisem. check this out:

tasawwuf . org

[love4muhammad]

mashaalah!! so enlightening

[rafiq786uk]

Always remember that one cannot be a Wahhâbî without also having difficulty speaking truthfully.

[rafiq786uk]

Son of Dave Chappel wanted Mughnî al-Muhtâj and he got Mughnî al-Muhtâj: "(Nawawi: It is NOT prohibited to dance (Shirbînî, author of Mughnî al-Muhtâj:) which is NOT unlawful because it is ONLY MOTIONS MADE WHILE STANDING OR BOWING. Furani and others have expressly stated that NEITHER is it offensive, but rather, IS PERMISSIBLE, as is attested to by the hadith related in the Sahihs [cont. in next post]

[rafiq786uk]

[cont. from previous post] of Bukhari and Muslim that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) stood before 'A'isha (Allah be well pleased with her) to screen her from view so that she could observe THE ABYSSINIANS SPORTING AND DANCING) -- unless it is languid, like the movements of the effeminate" (MUGHNI AL-MUHTAJ ila ma'rifa ma'ani alfaz al-Minhaj (y73), 4.430). So please now try speaking the truth.

[rafiq786uk]

There are also the encouraging words of the Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam) to the Abyssinians who displayed themselves through certain choreographed movements in the Prophetic Mosque in Madina during `Id: "Jump, O Banu Arfada!" while our Mother `A'isha was watching with his permission. Muslim narrated it in his Sahih, book of Salat al-`Idayn from `A'isha (radiyallahu `anha).

[rafiq786uk]

Hadra has sources in the Sunna and is NOT bid`a. Imam Ahmad relates from Anas (raa), with a sound chain of transmission, that the Ethiopians DANCED in front of the Messenger of Allah (saw); DANCING and saying [in their language], "Muhammad is a righteous servant." The Prophet (s) said, "What are they saying?" And they said, "'Muhammad is a righteous servant (Muhammadun `abdun salih)'" (Musnad al-Imam Ahmad (Cairo 1313/1895. Reprint. Beirut: Dar Sadir, n.d., 3.152)

[rafiq786uk]

I had replied to the lies of Son of Dave Chappel elsewhere and will post those answers here too. Imam Nawawi says: "Dancing is NOT unlawful, unless it is languid, like the movements of the effeminate. And it is PERMISSIBLE to speak and to sing poetry, unless it satirizes someone, is obscene, or alludes to a particular woman" (Minhaj al-talibin wa 'umdat al-muttaqin. Cairo 1338/1920. Reprint. Cairo: Mustafa al-Babi al-Halabi, n.d., 152)

[ibndavechappel]

Dear brothers and sisters,

I swear that every proof that our dear brother rafiq has used is not sound, as in the case of Imam Ahmed's hadith. Not checked as in the hadith of the swaying trees. Or just flat out mistranslated as is the statement of Imam al-Nawawi since the context is not given. Rafiq, fear Allah and stick with the Sunnah. The Sunna the better.

[ibndavechappel]

Asalamu alaykum,

While one can certainly appreciate your deep love for the Prophet and Islam. It is important to make sure that such acts are based on sound fiqh. For those of you with a sound heart, open mind and love for Allah you are invited to look at the following exposition related to the dalil of this act. Please see thetranslators at wordpress and see the article on dhikr.

Allah bless

[hayderhk]

Jazakallah for the references brother rafiq

[rafiq786uk]

The below was mentioned in: Ibn al-`Imad, Shadharat al-dhahab 5:302; Ibn Shakir al-Kutabi, Fawat al-wafayat 1:595; al-Yafi`i, Mir'at al-jinan 4:154; al-Nabahani, Jami` karamat al-awliya 2:71; Abu al-Sa`adat, Taj al-ma`arif p. 250.

[rafiq786uk]

al-`Izz ibn `Abd al-Salam as the chief example of such scholars, since it is authentically reported that he himself 'attended the sama` and danced in states of ecstasy' (kana yahduru al-sama` wa yarqusu wa yatawajadu), as stated by Ibn al-`Imad on the authority of al-Dhahabi, Ibn Shakir al- Kutabi, al-Yafi`i, al-Nabahani, and Abu al- Sa`adat.

[rafiq786uk]

Imam al-Nawawi said in his Sharh Sahih Muslim that a narration has: "They are those who shake or are moved at the mention or remembrance of Allah (hum al-ladhina ihtazzu fi dhikrillah)," that is, al-Nawawi comments, "They have become fervently devoted and attached to His remembrance."

[rafiq786uk]

Hadith about the Sahaba: "When Allah Most High was mentioned they swayed the way trees sway on a windy day, then their eyes poured out tears until - by Allah! - they soaked their clothes. By Allah! Folks today are asleep and heedless." Ab? Nu`aym, Hilya (1985 1:76, 10:388).

[Abdul104point5]

Although I don't agree on the cameras but they are remembering God, God says (Quran 2:152) "Then you remember Me; I will remember you. Be grateful to Me, and do not reject faith."

[mx56ebc]

And in which way should we remember Allah?? Who better to ask than our Prophet (pbuh). If this act was of some benefit, then surely our Prophet(pbuh) would have taken part in it. As he took part in everything which was beneficial. To say that this is something that we think is beneficial but wasnt carried out or taught by our Prophet(pbuh) then you are saying that our Prophet(pbuh) failed to convey his message completely. Astaghfirullah.

[Hijjabi4eva]

masha'allah.i was present @ da dhikr..great experience

[RUMAYSAA]

can u please tell me what religon ths is

[hayderhk]

Islam.

The clip is of a Dhikr gathering (Hadrah), (Rememberence of Allah by way of Body and Voice)

[RUMAYSAA]

Yeah no offence like but this is classed as BIDAT u should look it up and find out for you'r self

[hayderhk]

Oh will you give it a rest. please try to understand what biddah actually means, the difference between a good biddah (biddah hassana) and a bad biddah, as well as, what actually constitutes a biddah. Zikr of Allah is prescribed in the Quran, Hadith and recommended by all the scholars of Ahle Sunnah, from yesterday and today.

[mx56ebc]

Bukhari Hadith: The Proophet (p.b.u.h) said "I have left behind me two things, as lonog as you cling to them you will never go astray. They are the book of Allah (swt) and my Sunnah (life example)". [Al-Hakim] And he also said, "..and you will live to see great differing, so cling to my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the rightly guided Khalifas after me, even if it be with your molar teeth...".

[hayderhk]

Mashallah. Jazakallah for the Hadith, and as i said, Dhikr is from the Quran and Sunnah.

[mx56ebc]

Well said Rumaysa!!

[hayderhk]

lol wat is it with wahabbies?

When we recite the Naat of Rasulallah (saw) your never happy, and then when we do Dhikr of Allah swt, you still arent happy?!

[nextman6515]

neva mind the wahhabis, if they are really that worried about biddat they should be making their pilgrimage on camels and throwing out their televisions and computers.

[mx56ebc]

Bid'ah is ONLY INNOVATION IN RELIGION. Modern technology is as an innovation, but there is nothing wrong in it.

[hayderhk]

Oh dear wahabbi, Islam is a way of life

[nextman6515]

"Bid'ah is ONLY INNOVATION IN RELIGION. Modern technology is as an innovation, but there is nothing wrong in it."

Then you should never talk about religion or anything related to it on the internet? you should never research islam on the internet? you should never watch islamic lectures on tv? you should never call in on islam channel and you should never give dawah through these new mediums?

[mx56ebc]

On the authority of the Mother of the Faithful, Umm `Abdillaah `Aaishah (radi Allaahu 'anhaa) , who said: The Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaau alayhi wa sallam) said: He who does an act which we have not commanded, will have it rejected [by Allaah].

[imzadou]

@mx56ebc: Is technology out of religion........does Islam has nothing to do with technology..........

[nextman6515]

my dear misguided brother mx56ebc - i am very sorry to inform you that youtube is a biddah. please delete your account and block it from your browser. infact, cancel your internet - biddah. actually, get rid of your computer - extreme biddah. even better, move to the desert - its the only option. but dont take a plane - biddah.

[mx56ebc]

On the authority of the Mother of the Faithful, Umm `Abdillaah `Aaishah (radi Allaahu 'anhaa) , who said: The Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaau alayhi wa sallam) said: He who does an act which we have not commanded, will have it rejected [by Allaah].

[nextman6515]

2:152

Therefore remember Me, I shall remember you<br>

[mx56ebc]

Only in the ways in which we have been taught by our Prophet (pbuh).

[waqasahmedamin]

Musnad Ahmed bin Hanbal has a hadith in which some Abyssinians did a war-DANCE in which they did the Zikr of the Prophet (s)and Allah says remember me, in this ayah there is no condition so why do you put conditions on Zikr when Allah has not put conditions on his zikr??

[mx56ebc]

The exact times for Salah is not stated in the Quran, nor are many other things such as details on how to perform the Salah, rules regarding Fasting and the acts of Sunnah..for these we have to refer to hadith. Likewise with Zikr, there is no mention on how to perform it, but then how should we perform it? The ideal answer would be to perform Zikr as our Prophet (pbuh) performed. Not on how we think is best, becuase the best of example is in our Prophet(pbuh). Follow his ways.

[nextman6515]

the truth is you will never understand us and we will never understand you. you are ahledahidh - we are ahlusunnat wal jamaat. you have redefined shirkh and bidah to your own standards and throw fatwas of gustaakhi and kaafir around like a ball at wimbledon, yet you cannot adhere to your own preachers rules. do you think ibn taymiyya or abdul wahhab would debate islam on youtube? no chance - theyd chant biddah biddah all day long.

[mx56ebc]

How can you class urself as Ahlusunnah when your not following the Sunnah? Zikr in this form is not from the Sunnah. The prophet (pbuh) didnt perform Zikr in this way, so its not a Sunnah. So how can you say you follow the Sunnah?

[nextman6515]

brother, the evidence is in front of you given by other users. we follow the way of the sahabah, tabieen and tala tabieen, if you dont believe it then say Allah knows best and continue with your life. at the end of the day the prophet (PBUH) said "innamal aamalu binniyathi". every action depends upon its intention. so be it, if you act on what you believe to be right inshallah allah is the most merciful.

[muslimbynature786]

nextman, made this account jus 2 reply 2 u. cnt thanku enuff 4 all ur replies! my brother recently started hanging out wit sum boys from a wahabi mosque.he strted asking me about bidat in our aqeeda n stuff bt i cudnt answer him cos i had no clue wt 2 say! bt then 2day i wrote down sum of ur points and explained the problem with their "bidat" and we laffd about it! dont know wt he wud be like if it wsnt 4 ur help. thanku n al the otha users 2.cnt believe ur 18 u type like a wise man :)

[muslimbynature786]

PS, i dont usually type like that - i wanted 2 fit it in 1 comment lol. anyway thankyou all,tc.

[waqasahmedamin]

This Zikr is from the Sunnah.. I told you in Musnad Ahmed and Sahih Muslim it talks of some abyssinias doing Hadra in the Masjid-e-Nabi and they danced and were doing Zikr of Muhammad Abdun Salih... we have our evidences.. also in hakim. Rasulullah S said do zikr so people think you are mad.. we have evidences but U wahhabi don't accept because ur no sunni!

[muslimbynature786]

you should be ashamed of yourself mx56ebc

[mx56ebc]

Wanna explain why i should be ashamed?

[muslimbynature786]

here you go:

The Prophet SAW said "There was disagreement amongst Jews and they split into 72 groups. In the same way, there will be disagreements in my Ummah. It will split into 73 groups.Apart from one of those groups, the remaining 72 will be thrown into Hell." He also said "The group on the right path,which will enter Paradise,will be the group which follows my Sunna and that of my Sahaba,they will be the largest group of Muslims" Tirmizi,Imam Ahmad,Abu Daud,Mishkat'

[muslimbynature786]

sadly the ahl-e-hadith do not fit the description for the group on the right path.

[Rabiaugur]

masallah barek allah sirrlari aziz olsun ya allahhhhhhhhhhhhh

[dmkdmk]

Subhanallah...

[digitalboygermany]

very good i like it Germany

[urkaka]

best