I am not sure people got the principle of the video. The video mimicks the structure of the composition. The theme, when played alone, has certain structure, but doesn't seem to have any "extraordinary" meaning. Analogical statements apply to the symbols presented in the video. The trick is that there is a hidden, much cooler meaning which can be revealed by superimposing the theme over it's time-reversed image. The same holds for the symbols -- the extraordinary meaning being the word "Bach"!
Bach and dogs are the proof of a creator, not of revealed religion, no, something much greater. Even though Bach was a Christian it is apparent that he was inspired by something that transcends all religions.
@beriukay Whatever the true nature of reality is. Maybe this is all, nothing wrong with that, but the possibility exists that this isn't all. Unfortunately none of that means anything when we are dealing with the fact that pure Darwinism seems to be the only truth to this reality. I don't claim to have special knowledge, but I have experienced something that I hope was real, whatever the case it seemed real enough to hint at something deeper, It definitely isn't "god." or the opposite.
@imaginativelads I think there's presently enough majesty in human understanding of reality to be slightly offended when somebody says something akin to "this is all there is". I agree that there are experiences to be had that are truly awe inspiring. I just think you are selling yourself short when you say "pure Darwinism seems to be the only truth". Evolution has nothing to do with the Multiverse, or the Big Bang, or Strange Loops.
@beriukay Ok, I'm not familiar with "strange loops" so I'm googling, but my experience is that all of the systems to control people religion, state, propaganda of both is just a means to power and the natural flowering of the cruelty in a non caring universe, sounds like pure survival of the fittest. There may be individual acts of kindness, but the majority of people have been dominated or domesticated like cattle to serve the strong. We have been told lies to keep us from killing the rich.
@imaginativelads I'm in agreement with many points there, and I understand the anguish that can induce.
The strange loops idea is well described in the book Godel, Escher, Bach. It is a big book, but it shows you that meaning can arise even in a meaningless string of symbols; intelligence is not bound to the human form.
The good news is that biologists have shown that survival of the fittest can and does often mean "nice guys finish first". Google game theory and especially "Tit for tat".
I am not sure people got the principle of the video. The video mimicks the structure of the composition. The theme, when played alone, has certain structure, but doesn't seem to have any "extraordinary" meaning. Analogical statements apply to the symbols presented in the video. The trick is that there is a hidden, much cooler meaning which can be revealed by superimposing the theme over it's time-reversed image. The same holds for the symbols -- the extraordinary meaning being the word "Bach"!
pbazant 6 months ago
Bach and dogs are the proof of a creator, not of revealed religion, no, something much greater. Even though Bach was a Christian it is apparent that he was inspired by something that transcends all religions.
imaginativelads 7 months ago
@imaginativelads "something that transcends all religions" You mean like, reality?
beriukay 4 months ago
@beriukay Whatever the true nature of reality is. Maybe this is all, nothing wrong with that, but the possibility exists that this isn't all. Unfortunately none of that means anything when we are dealing with the fact that pure Darwinism seems to be the only truth to this reality. I don't claim to have special knowledge, but I have experienced something that I hope was real, whatever the case it seemed real enough to hint at something deeper, It definitely isn't "god." or the opposite.
imaginativelads 4 months ago
@imaginativelads I think there's presently enough majesty in human understanding of reality to be slightly offended when somebody says something akin to "this is all there is". I agree that there are experiences to be had that are truly awe inspiring. I just think you are selling yourself short when you say "pure Darwinism seems to be the only truth". Evolution has nothing to do with the Multiverse, or the Big Bang, or Strange Loops.
beriukay 4 months ago
@beriukay Ok, I'm not familiar with "strange loops" so I'm googling, but my experience is that all of the systems to control people religion, state, propaganda of both is just a means to power and the natural flowering of the cruelty in a non caring universe, sounds like pure survival of the fittest. There may be individual acts of kindness, but the majority of people have been dominated or domesticated like cattle to serve the strong. We have been told lies to keep us from killing the rich.
imaginativelads 4 months ago
@imaginativelads I'm in agreement with many points there, and I understand the anguish that can induce.
The strange loops idea is well described in the book Godel, Escher, Bach. It is a big book, but it shows you that meaning can arise even in a meaningless string of symbols; intelligence is not bound to the human form.
The good news is that biologists have shown that survival of the fittest can and does often mean "nice guys finish first". Google game theory and especially "Tit for tat".
beriukay 4 months ago
The graphic is misleading.
ihamoitc2005 10 months ago
how do you get the symbols from the music?
macmathghamhna 1 year ago
this is mobius strip at all
phoenx00 1 year ago
where did these symbols come from?
emai13 1 year ago
The lunar phases remind me of this song.
cyndie26 2 years ago
All I can say is that Bach was a genius in every way. To come up with something that can accompany itself is mind boggling.
Frankadelphia 2 years ago