Aparte lusitania tenia casi mas parte en territorio español que portugués, teniendo en cuenta que ocupaba toda extremadura, se internaba bastante en lo que hoy es la mancha e incluia buena parte de andalucia y que todo el norte de portugal quedaba fuera de lusitania por tanto los portugueses no deberian considerarse unicos y legitimos descendientes de los lusitanos precisamente.
@Malo06 Na verdade não só os portugueses são "descendentes" dos lusitanos visto como tu dizeste muito bem boa parte da Extremadura também serem. E também não só os lusitanos são antepassados dos portugueses também são os galaicos (Norte Portugal) os Celtici os Tartessos(Sul de Portugal) mas normalmente esquece se isto tudo em nome da propaganda
We have documents sent by the Pope, and he calls him by CristoVÃO Colõn, Do you have this "ÃO" in your language ? No, you have "ION" de "nacion", de "cabron", for us is "nação"cabrão". I just want you to understand that even if Franco or other altered your history books, the biggest Empire in the world was called Empire of Portugal and Spain, till its end in 1640, when we separated for good or for bad.
Spanish or Portuguese, not fucking polish or german or some strange language like that. Is like the same as doing a mod about the American civil war in chinese
spain wasnt only 1 on reconquista, i surely doubt that they could beat the moors alone,Portugal,Aragon,Navarre,castille,leon, and in fact Spain only Existed After the reconquista,a thing that surely many people That comment arround here dnt know
By saying "Spain" couldn't beat the Moors/Arabs alone, you mean "Castille-Leon"? When you say "Spain" you also mean all the other people of the iberian peninsula.
In fact if Spain would have been spain at that time, the moors woudn't have had a chance. The Reconquista took so long because the Spanish people weren't united and even fought themselves just as much as the moors. But whatever you say you are propably right!
No and yes. The moors were separated in Taifas (little spanish emirates) and that's when the Spanish barbarians started to conquer the rests of the ruined great muslim civilization of Iberia. In fact Portuguese Barons since 800 AC were crucial for the reconquista because of their courage in battle in the side of the Christian fields. Arabs lost because of their intelectual superiority, and less fundamentalism in battle(in that time). Spain didn't fought, but Aragon, Castile-leon and Portugal
If you want to discuss history we can do it my friend. Remenber Portugal finalized Reconquista in around 1250. And Castilla ?
I said Portuguese Barons not Portucale (when it was a part of Leon). But the same for Portucale. Spain was barbarian as all the Europe less city states in Italy and Eastearn Roman Empire. Please... if you know anything about history you would agree with me when I say all the Europe was barbarian less the Arabs, even more IBERIA (dominated by warlords)
Who reads what you have written, looks like Spain was the center of Civilization, the Renascence. I dont know but maybe for you Florence is in Spain ahah, like Cristovao Colombo is also Spanish ahaha. Where were that intelegence that you r talking about ? Science ? nothing my friend we here in our peninsula the only thing we had was the moors that had all the knowledge and science... If you doubt about Portuguese Reconquista, go check for yourself, see for example who started Morocco campaign
You are a really ignorant. I,m not going to waste my time talking with a person who scorn the Spanish culture, a country who was the most big empire in the world never seen. Do you know something about the gold age of Spain? no i supose no, do you know something about the school of translator of Toledo?.
When you say gold age of Spain, it just makes me remenber all the gold you sacked from Americas. Portuguese lost the battle of alcaçer quibir because we were fighting six moor kings while you spanish stayed at home =P. We lost one King they lost Three Emirs. We were in fighting in Morroco alone since 100 years, refresh. Man you just took to much time to take Al-Andaluz. Portugal exists since 1141, Spain later, because before it was Castilla, Leon, then Castilla-Leon.
All the east and Africa was Portuguese, so it means more than half of the Empire of Portugal and Spain (Spanish Empire for you) was in fact lands of Portugal that were never adminstrated or occupied by spanish, Refreshhhhhh. Please read books, and stop reading only Franco shit. Go read about Napoleon invasion in Portugal, and Spanish invasion in 1640, you will see this was always your Vietname. Aljubarrota 10.000 Portuguese agaisnt 40.000 Spanish with French cavalary support, you lost ;) refres
Learn english, learn italian and french, and also portuguese, and then read books. I have read books of history of all those languages. Check please battles of 1640, battles of 1385 in Portugal, where u come thinking this was easy "Coño", and get your ass kicked by a few portuguese peasants. You are ridiculous, and your country's history has nothing of glorious. You submited to Napoleon, we never. You hired a Portuguese navigator Colombo to go Americasss, Go read, check it, refresh, Aljubarrota
You know more languages than me, but you are 10000 times mor ignorant. Please don,t go to the internet to write things that you know in the real live the people will make fun of you.
I,m bored, you bored me, your stupid arguments without no historical support bored me.
By my gypsy friend, and remember don,t be so jelause ;-)
Ah! something for you: your posesions in Africa were only harbors and little cities, all Africa!!!ajajajajajajajajja and the same in the east, only little parts of land and cities (Makao) read please, read real books.
your stupid country end it glory in 1492, since then you become a shit country, full of prostitutes, no contry matter your ideas and wats happening in portugal because portugal don,t have importance. Your women have hair in the armpits and in the legs, portuguese people are like gypsy.
Don,t be so jelous my friend, i know that you cry because your country only know to sell slaves and destroy, but don,t be sad...
, we were the country that have grow more in the world this last decades, OUR language is the 3th more speak in the world after the Chinese and English, and this is because we expand our culture to losts of parts in the world, we hace the most glroy history in the world, WE conquer half of the world, OUR soldiers figth in Flandes, in Filipinas, in EEUU, in ALL south america, in Africa.......
My english is a shit, you know lots of languages, but you are really stupid, ignorant and awful.
Portugal is a shit of country, your economy is a shit, 28% of your population wants to unify Spain with Portugal because (refreshhhhh) we are the 8th power in the worl, we have DEMOCRACY
I acept that the most intelligent people in the worl in this age were the moors, but the moors coexist with the spanish in "la península" for centuries, this turn into the spanish the most intelligens people in Europe.
And don,t talk about the Morocco campaign of the portuguese, i,m going to refresh your memory: battle of The Three Kings (La Batalla de los Tres Reyes) the 4 of August of 1578.... ;-)
Yes right. I think you are not ignorant, and you deserve my waste of time even if you said the contrary. I wanted you to answer thats why I said so many things. I dont scorn Spanish culture, but you have to recognize that Iberia was in social and economic crisis before the moors, thats why I said Barbarians. The biggest empire the world has ever seen was called Empire of Portugal and Spain, it was an alliance, refreshh;).Battle of Alcaçer Quibir was later, who was in the front line: Portuguese
But you saying the Spanish, is like today we say the Arabs, or the Europeans (they are all different things). Spain was divided in different kingdoms, but I understand. And no dont say in the world... only if the world is just the peninsula... Look to the middle east, look to Constantinopla, and the city states of Italy, yes there you have the rests of the roman civilization, here my friend: Barbarians, Visigoths, Toledo capitol of barbarians. Even france was in a better condition than us.
You gotta check why we won Crusades, why the arabs run from the crusades. Arabs were more sophisticated in those times that's why they had less fundamentalism less courage fighting in jihad. You gotta see why they lost reconquista, they only lost because we fought more like barbarians, Portuguese and Spanish won so many battles because of the fundamentalism, they lost because of their rationalism. Study where we learn Maths, Physics, Astronomy, and most of all NAVIGATION.
Al-Andaluz gave us Renascence. Portugal went alone to India and more, whyle you all were afraid of monsters of the Ocean, like it or not. The spanish in the reconquista fought way too slow, and were so many !! we were to few... and arrived at Algarve quickly. Most of the spanish patrimonio is Arab, and remenber how much u destroyed and burned. Remenber how we always fought with few and achieved so many great things. Whyle you won by the numbers, I wait cordially for your answer, Refresh !!!!
And I want loose my time with you anymore. I thought you were intelegent... I was wrong. Read Books also in other languages, of course spanish books will defend SPANISH points of view. Remenber that you never had revolution, what you have is Monarchy and a prolongation of Franco regime. We had Revolution and we killed the kings, kicked fascism, and cleaned all the nationalist and history brainwash of the Fascism, you DONT, thats why u are so ignorant, with that nazi points of view.
And about the discursion of the moors, YES i accept that they were the most intelligent people in the worl in this age, but the spanish (i say spanish for not saying all the time Castilla y León, Navarra y Aragón) include this wisdom to their culture.
And also we don,t won the Reconquista because we had more soldiers, because this is a lie, no, we won because the moores where divided in Taifas (little extensions of land) and they don,t help each other.
I think this discusion is stupid, you are not going to accept nothing, you think that portugal was the best and Spain a shit, and this is the most biggest lie that i have never seen. Portugal was a very important country with the king Enrique "el Navegante", but when spain discover America, it become the first power in the worl and portugal year by year become more weak until they turn into mediocre country.
Aslo please, read about the golden age of spain, becouse you don,t know nothing.
Thats why you hate us. Spain was always kicked in Portugal. We kicked your gypsy flamenco ass always. Even when you were 1000000 men. NApoleon send here 3 generals die all got kicked, you spanish maricones just surrendered easily to him, mariconesssss!!! Aljubarrota kick spanish ass easily 10.000 Portuguese agaisnt 40.000 Spanish ahahah. What a shame !! do you study Aljubarrota in school, im sure you dont !! its such a shameful thing ! If I was spanish I would rather suicide. Adioz gillipollas
And Mexico, Venezuela, Colombia, Peru, Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Ecuador, Honduras, El Slavador, Nicaragua, Cuba, Republica Dominicana piss in this gypsy country called Brasil. Poor Brasil, they speak this gypsy language called portuguese, the language of prostitutes and homosexuals, our spanish "Machos" goes to you country to kick your homosexual ases and fuck with your mother.
lol why are you even bragging about Portuguese? they just come to countries liike France for example and do the dirty jobs that noone wants to do.. your women are hairy as shit and i'm sorry but when Spain was owning all the world and South America Portugal was kissing Spains ass to leave land for the Portos to have their own little "colony"..
I think you have to read so much books, because part of the history that you are talking is invented.
1º There wasn,t an empire called Portugal and Spain, only for a simple reason: we concer portugal in 1580, in 1581 the king Felipe II is also the king of Portugal, refresh ;-). Only existe one empire, the Spanish empire where the sun don,t disappear.
You talk about our superiority, ok i,m going to refresh you an other time, the Spanish concer America with only a thousand men ¡¡0.0!!
Amigo se quieres hablar en español non és un problema.
Part of the things I agree with you. Slave-trade etcetc... Empire of Portugal and Spain was the name of the empire composed by two different kingdoms that united their colonies. Spain never conquered Portugal, but yes the King of Portugal died in crusade, and since he had no heirs we agreed to form an alliance, with the condition that the colonies, language and culture was respected in both sides. This comes from the books, However if you
King Felipe II was son of Portuguese princess, and when he inherited by blood line the crown of Portugal he agreed to govern the two kingdoms as two different countries... My friend what im telling you is just facts, King Felipe I of Portugal and II of Spain was a great King, the same cant be said about his successor ;) Cristovao Colombo was Portuguese, but in this it is not a good thing, because we rejected his dream, and of course he went to spain asking for support.
Spanish conquered Aztec with one thousand man with those coward attacks. Ok portugal slave trade etc... okok you are right. But Slavery was normal in those ages. You cant compare your conquest of mexico with our conection of the East to the west that we made. Remenber before us there was only one world, one trade route, and the submission to the arab market control.We brought the final victory agaisnt the ottomans,and their economic crisis (Refresh).We fought in the sea, land always outnumbered
Cowards attacks?¿??¿' please don,t say that tipe of things, we concer all America with ingenuity. Our men were so brave, the most brave soldiers in this age, so don,t say atrocityes.
It is not like my country is the best yours not... its not that, i have spanish friends that i made when i was in italy, and i must say i love your culture, and party spirit, and always nice and good disposition. But when we talk about history facts, cmon, it is not to say im better than you, its facts, dont be offended when I say, that we being so few and with little resources achieved great discoveries. When i started talking about spain, i was not saying bad things about your country
In fact I was only saying that we both Portugal and Castilla e Leon were like in economic and social crisis in the medieval ages, before Spain existed. I never said nothing wrong against Spain. Why it makes u confused the facts. Everything u can say about Spain, not castille and Leon was achieved later... not as little kingdoms, u gotta accept that we went out of this stupid medieval mentality and believed world was bigger than what church told you. Monsters in the sea, flat earth...
Thats why we portuguese had so many problems with the Pope, and thats why we were the only ones to receive the KNIGHTS TEMPLAR,as the new ORDER OF CRISTO, after all the europe perscute them. Dont be angry with this one too. Accept it... Europe were divided in stupid kingdoms fighting each other, and we had the idea to cross the ocean, you all were afraid of the monsters like it or not. Spain was a big empire, and therefore had economic support and numbers to achieve everything.And please answer
There are some thing that are fixed: there was a portuguese Empire before 1580, and there was an spanish Empire since 1492, but never an Empire call the Empire of Spain and Portugal.
Portugal was rich and strong with the King Enrique the Navigator, but then, when Spain discover America, the portuguese Empire become weak and weak and weak.
Also Cristobal Colón was GENOVESE, of Genova, not portuguese, please don,t say unrealistic things.
MAn please, go learn english, sometimes u look like u are talking your "Coño" language instead of english. Man about the portuguese girls maybe yes you r traumatized because Portuguese woman fought in Aljubarrota. Me I dont have any complaints about spanish girls, I like them allot, they are horny and slutty, easy cerdas, you call me gypsy, but your sister enjoys portuguese guys. And gypsies here in iberia only in Andaluzia, everybody knows spanish for being cerdos and gypsies eheh.
In 1581, Felipe II become the king of Portugal, but the economi of Portugal was managed by Felipe II, and in Portugal were spanish troops. So Portugal was part of Spain. Then in 1640 you get your freedom, but befor that all the economy of Portugal was property of Spain.
Other thing, lots of historians say that Spain apear with the Catholic Kings.
You talk about the ottomans, and you say that you were so brave fighting on the sea, ok do you know the battle of "Lepanto" ? OUR navy destroy the ottomans, please read about this battle.
Portugal was a great country with a great empire, but you can,t compare this with the Spanish empire, the most big and through never seen. An empire were the sun never disappear, not because the lands of portugal, because we have Filipinas. So don,t compare something that you can,t compare, the concer of America was 100000000 por important than the union with the East.
u know what spanish girls r so crazy, they like portuguese big stick in their mouths because spanish have short dicks ahah. Thats why u hate me and my country, because your girl will never forget me aha in all the world people know you for being cerdos, spanish cerdos, like you know, you never take bath, you smell like pigs. Go check history you ignorant piece of shit. Refresh. You will see an hundred humilliations spain lived here in this lands. We are your biggest frustration and defeat
Also don,t talk about the destruction of spain, because portugal burn and destroy the same of every one.
Portugal was aslo one of the biggest slave-trader in the world.
I don,t know why you scorn Spain, i think if you are portuguese you are jelous about the today situation of Spain, and the mediocre situation of potugal.
If you want to continue this discussion:
My english is a shit and i bored to write right here.
However if you doubt what im saying, see the facts by yourself. See why we dont had to move a finger to get back all our empire... Because it simple was all in our control since 1580 like u said. When in 1640 we resolved our differences, every single Portuguese colony of what you call the Empire that sun never sets, suddenly uprised agaisnt Empire of Portugal and Spain' (!?Refresh?!) Portugal become mediocre country because of Luxury, we were lost even before the battle of the three kings.
Portugal was a great country with a great empire, but you can,t compare this with the Spanish empire, the most big and through never seen. An empire were the sun never disappear, not because the lands of portugal, because we have Filipinas. So don,t compare something that you can,t compare, the concer of America was 100000000 por important than the union with the East.
You talk about the ottomans, and you say that you were so brave fighting on the sea, ok do you know the battle of "Lepanto" ? OUR navy destroy the ottomans, please read about this battle.
go check it. No armies were here, we were united to you because of BLOODLINE NOT conquest, and you dont knowing that reveals some lack of knowledge on this, refresh. The name of the empire was like it or not, Empire of Portugal and Spain, due to the importance of Portugal in those times, it was not like today, everybody knew Portugal in those times, it was not like ok King dies in morroco, now everything from India to Brazil is Spain, that is unrealistic. He united under the same Flag,just that
In 1581, Felipe II become the king of Portugal, but the economi of Portugal was managed by Felipe II, and in Portugal were spanish troops. So Portugal was part of Spain. Then in 1640 you get your freedom, but befor that all the economy of Portugal was property of Spain.
Other thing, lots of historians say that Spain apear with the Catholic Kings.
Ok again part of what u said is true. Portugal administration and ALL the colonies were under PORTUGUESE administration as well as spanish administration was under spanish administration, however we shared our economy trade and military. Notice that when u say, Spain was the biggest empire, remenber that when suddenly Portugal (and think why all the colonies without any spanish troops SUDDENLY uprised) this is a fact no spanish troop in colonies. And yes you had to invade Portugal with an army
thats the most important fact. You say Portugal was occupied with troops... I dont know where you read this, Portugal was occupied with Portuguese troops loyal to King Felipe II and unloyal to FILIPE III. Portugal fought along side with Spanish man throughtout Europe for what I telling you that was called Empire of Portugal and Spain that you refuse to accept because u dont like it, for me is cool. For me was the best empire but ok I dont like the Portugal there I dont say anymore that eheh
But if you dont like that Empire of Portugal and Spain, you must also hate the flag of your Empire of Sun never SEt =P, go check it, the crown of Portugal is occupies a place of honor right in the center. That means that Portugal was the most important part of the empire, which Filipe II half portuguese man dues most of his power. Guess what... King Filipe II respected Portugal, and was the right successor to the Portuguese king because of bloodline, and no Portuguese heirs. thats why we were 1
Please Im just trying to make u understand a part of the history without passionate visions. Half of the Empire was truly Portuguese, and there was no spanish troops in Brasil or Africa for example, King Filipe II needed Portuguese loyalty and he knows he would never get it by war, or he would have to fight in every place of the world, and therefore loose his power, England and France would give you Golpe de Gracias, if you loose your forces fighting us for non sustainable conquest.
There is no proofs of Cristovao Colon was genovese. There is proofs that he speaks Portuguese, and Spanish with Portuguese accent... There is proofs of his hometown in Alentejo Portuguese Province, a town called Cuba, that by coincidence is the same name for the island in Americas. Do you have any town called Cuba in Spain ? No, however there is no proofs of this theory being right so yes i must say I dont know exactly if he was portuguese, but he wasnt italian nor spanish. We have documents
Maybe the succesor King Filipe III, the stupid one, maybe this one called his empire Empire of Spain, and thats why we separated ... His father knew how to be respected by Portuguese people, and believe thats a crazy thing, thats why he put Portuguese crown in the center of the flag. Hermanito its not like I hate Spain, its just we could somehow be united, but we are different, im sorry we are too different cultures since the ancient times. We are atlantic, like galicians but more different...
And see believe me its not a beautiful thing, if u want some kind of union you gotta be careful because peoples are always unhappy and ready to make battle. Even nowadays that we have all the reasons to be united, and that even me I have Galician relatives, spanish friends etc... It doesnt work that way, it is better to be separated and respect as brothers, because if there is union, any problem we would point the finger to Spain, and you would have war here, like País Basco, it is not good...
This is just for you my friend. All this words for you. We all should learn from history, and for this one you gotta see, Portugal and Spain were united but it didnt last because we were not okay united, maybe it was good for military and economy, but then people and their culture and identity and their valours just talk more higher, and then there is battle. Even today that nothing of that makes sense, its not easy. Maybe in the future you can have an united world, but now for god sake No
And don,t talk anymore about Franco, if you live in a shit of country and you need to invent a story to be happy and thing that portugal is something don,t enter to internet to tell your story.
You are a really ignorant, pelase read.
And, like you say, This is for you my friend, only for you: READ REAL BOOKS
And the half of the spanish empire was lands of Portugal?¿?¿??¿¿? jajajajajaj plsease don,t make me laguth, do yo know what lands that spain have?: all south america except brasil, 3/4 of EEUU, Flandes, Milan, the kindom of Napoles, lands in Greece, in north Africa, Filipinas, etc, etc.....this are the same of Portugal??¿?jajajajajaj...please please, study Geography.
Man. You dont have arguments see. You just say, blabla you r ignorant and stupid things blabla. I think you are the ignorant one and your english skills prove it. I dont know but I think with that english, you never read a single book. Me I have read books in english, portuguese, italian and spanish, I speak 5 languages with french, so my friend you gotta study allot to get to my level believe me. But for a spanish guy u speak good english, I met lots of spanish who dont know a word of english
again I see u speakin like "coño". you say u expanded culture ? u only sacked americas and started getting gold here in europe. Harbours ? I love this one, man we get all the harbours in a couple of years, the harbours were the center of all the economy. Portugal full of prostitutes ? Last time spanish mothers come here I dont know, maybe u r right. Brasil is the major economy in South America, and they control your shitty colombias and venezuelas, Compare the territories, u only colonized shit
Brasil rules South America Gypsies. Peruans, Mexicans Colombians aall gipsies, and if you see, the map, Brasil big and great territory. Mexico and other gypsies get only rests. Cebri gypsy. Spain gypsy, Spain only good to fuck cerdas ahhahahahaha. Spanish girls like Portuguese guys ahaaha. AJAJAJ jajaja. Españolitos Mariconessssssssssssssssss ejejejejeje
oh amigo ! non ! portugal was founded long time ago... before D. Henrique, Portugal was already an independent entity. No doubt we have allot of spanish influence and similarity. But we are diferent, remember you r more Mediterranean, we are 100% Atlantic. If you study history of Portugal you'll notice a diferent identity since the Castros culture, since Lusitanians. Romans understood that, so they created a specific region. And D. Henrique Portuguese first king was from Burgundy - France
Lusitania no comprendia lo que hoy en dia es solo portugal lusitania tambien comprendia extremadura(españa).Aparte eso no era mas que para crear regiones en la peninsula pero como provincia solo habia una y se llamava HISPANIA al igual que la galia eran provicncias y os romanos fueran de cualquier lado de la peninsula lo consideravan HISPANOS.
Non ! One thing was the Lusitanians another thing was the Vascones and another thing was the Cailicians.... etc etc
Emerita Augusta was infact the doors to Lusitania. Remember, Lusitanians made romans pass an hard time here in IBeria. Lusitanians were fought romans like GAULS
Portugal before being called CountY of Portugal (Condado), was an diferent entity, with relative autonomy, the so called Barons of Portucale. After that D. Henrique from France crusade in Reconquista for the King of Leon, and received the lands of Portugal for his deeds in battle. His son, D. Afonso, born in Portugal supported by the Barons of Portucale asked for independence. Castros Culture, Lusitanians, Suevi, Portuguese, all different from the rest of the Peninsula. Im sorry its just true..
@wationsfils Actualy would be Gallaeci(castro culture) not Lusitanians and in matter fact both Gallaeci and Lusitinains were present in Spain aswell(Galicia Extremadura) but if you want to go in that road well I would say different from the rest of Iberia were the Portuguese(North of Portugal only) and Galicians in fact both these peoples share comom birth the Suevi Kingdmon was the Kingdmon of Galicia that inclued COunty Portucalense so in matter fact Portuguese-Galician desdend from both Suevi
@ImperialGuard9001Yes and no. Lusitanians were castro culture too. Suevi didn't originated Callaici or Lusitanians, they were both there before the romans and Suevi came after romans. Callaici occupied a territory that extended of Oporto. From what cames the name of Portugal, Port of Calles, Calles=Callaici. Yes Portugal in its essence came from the Galicians. Portuguese-Galician descend from Callaici, Suevi are just a celtic phase. Portuguese were more influenced by Lusitanians as you go south
But if you really want to know. As far as you respect me I'll respect you. And honestly I like your country and your culture. Just when I have a spanish stupid guy sayin bad things about my country, I just have to retribute in the same words. If you want to be brothers, we will be brothers. If you want to have battle, the past will repeat :)
veo que no te aclaras sobre los origenes de tu pais.Portugal era un CONDADO del reino de LEON,que decidieron independizarse y formar un reino aparte,pero bueno quisieron independizarse y asi os va.
Infact the romans didnt consider all people from the peninsula as hispanics. They particularly distinguished the Lusitanians for their braveness in battle and guerrilla tactics. Also the Vascones were known from every wise man. If you say like the comon people, yes the comon Roman people with no knowledge would call this all Hispania. As well as some Americans consider Europe a single country, because of lack of knowledge. Do you understand me ?
HISPANIA = IBERIA. Cuando la península era romana había tres provincias, Lusitania, Baetica y Tarraconensis, no habia ninguna provincia llamada hispania que yo sepa, es absurdo pensar que lusitania no fuese considerada por los romanos como parte hispania. Es más Iberia es el nombre que usaban los griegos para referirse a la península, hispania el que usaban los feniciios, que posteriormente fue el que se impuso entre los romanos, eso es así.
@Malo06 first of all. The peninsula was called Iberia before the romans, by the greeks, so stop calling this hispanic. The romans created two regions with the name Hispania. Hispania Cetirior and Hispania Ulterior. Than obviously, to simplify, when they talk about Iberia they use to call it Hispania. But the romans use to distinguish very well, what was Lusitania-Galleacia, and what was not. Lusitania was Finisterra, where the world ends. The famous river in Portugal, where Legions didn't want
@wationsfils lusitans, iberians and celts were all present both in spain and portugal, same as romans, suevi, vandals, goths, arabs. So what a mix of cultures to call themselves just "lusitans".
@cebri220108 barbaro quer dizer cultura e lingua diferente, e portugal mesmo neutro foi importante, varias vezes castella pediu ajuda a portugal em batalhas
I 'spose the longbow will have similar statistics to other campaigns though. The longbow's missile attack was rediculous when compared to other missile units.
At the beginning of the reconquista they were certainlty powerful. The fact that the reconquista took so long shows the Moors must have been powerful, ot at least hardly an underdog.
Die Open Beta wird am 9.8.2008 erscheinen, den Download Link wirst du dann hier ind er Videobeschreibung und im Forum, zu dem ich den Link ja bereits in der Beschreibung gepostet habe finden.
Mittlerweile hat sich ne Menge getan. Es gibt massig neue Units und Helden.
can someone put valid download link ? Really want to play this one ...
briesmonis1 6 months ago
the download link is broken D:
juanjoseph 7 months ago
Is a English "Translated" version out yet?
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
Aparte lusitania tenia casi mas parte en territorio español que portugués, teniendo en cuenta que ocupaba toda extremadura, se internaba bastante en lo que hoy es la mancha e incluia buena parte de andalucia y que todo el norte de portugal quedaba fuera de lusitania por tanto los portugueses no deberian considerarse unicos y legitimos descendientes de los lusitanos precisamente.
Malo06 2 years ago
right ! saludos
wationsfils 2 years ago
@Malo06 Na verdade não só os portugueses são "descendentes" dos lusitanos visto como tu dizeste muito bem boa parte da Extremadura também serem. E também não só os lusitanos são antepassados dos portugueses também são os galaicos (Norte Portugal) os Celtici os Tartessos(Sul de Portugal) mas normalmente esquece se isto tudo em nome da propaganda
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
We have documents sent by the Pope, and he calls him by CristoVÃO Colõn, Do you have this "ÃO" in your language ? No, you have "ION" de "nacion", de "cabron", for us is "nação"cabrão". I just want you to understand that even if Franco or other altered your history books, the biggest Empire in the world was called Empire of Portugal and Spain, till its end in 1640, when we separated for good or for bad.
wationsfils 2 years ago
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cebri220108 2 years ago
Why isn't it in english ?
wationsfils 2 years ago
because the mod artists are german?
alteracofblizzard 2 years ago
if they are german why are they doing a mod about reconquista ?
wationsfils 2 years ago
at least they should put it in English or
Spanish or Portuguese, not fucking polish or german or some strange language like that. Is like the same as doing a mod about the American civil war in chinese
wationsfils 2 years ago
spain wasnt only 1 on reconquista, i surely doubt that they could beat the moors alone,Portugal,Aragon,Navarre,castille,leon, and in fact Spain only Existed After the reconquista,a thing that surely many people That comment arround here dnt know
Eaglethepunisher 3 years ago
By saying "Spain" couldn't beat the Moors/Arabs alone, you mean "Castille-Leon"? When you say "Spain" you also mean all the other people of the iberian peninsula.
Taerkasten 3 years ago
In fact if Spain would have been spain at that time, the moors woudn't have had a chance. The Reconquista took so long because the Spanish people weren't united and even fought themselves just as much as the moors. But whatever you say you are propably right!
Pourleduc 3 years ago
No and yes. The moors were separated in Taifas (little spanish emirates) and that's when the Spanish barbarians started to conquer the rests of the ruined great muslim civilization of Iberia. In fact Portuguese Barons since 800 AC were crucial for the reconquista because of their courage in battle in the side of the Christian fields. Arabs lost because of their intelectual superiority, and less fundamentalism in battle(in that time). Spain didn't fought, but Aragon, Castile-leon and Portugal
wationsfils 2 years ago
Spanish barbarians???' jajajajajajjaja, the spansih of this time were the most intelligent of all Eurpe, Eurpe was barbarian, Spain no.
And Portugal crucial?¿¿??¿¿? jajjajajaja
Crucial was Castilla y León, Aragón and Navarra, not Portugal, don,t talk about things thant you don,t know.
cebri220108 2 years ago
If you want to discuss history we can do it my friend. Remenber Portugal finalized Reconquista in around 1250. And Castilla ?
I said Portuguese Barons not Portucale (when it was a part of Leon). But the same for Portucale. Spain was barbarian as all the Europe less city states in Italy and Eastearn Roman Empire. Please... if you know anything about history you would agree with me when I say all the Europe was barbarian less the Arabs, even more IBERIA (dominated by warlords)
wationsfils 2 years ago
Who reads what you have written, looks like Spain was the center of Civilization, the Renascence. I dont know but maybe for you Florence is in Spain ahah, like Cristovao Colombo is also Spanish ahaha. Where were that intelegence that you r talking about ? Science ? nothing my friend we here in our peninsula the only thing we had was the moors that had all the knowledge and science... If you doubt about Portuguese Reconquista, go check for yourself, see for example who started Morocco campaign
wationsfils 2 years ago
You are a really ignorant. I,m not going to waste my time talking with a person who scorn the Spanish culture, a country who was the most big empire in the world never seen. Do you know something about the gold age of Spain? no i supose no, do you know something about the school of translator of Toledo?.
cebri220108 2 years ago
When you say gold age of Spain, it just makes me remenber all the gold you sacked from Americas. Portuguese lost the battle of alcaçer quibir because we were fighting six moor kings while you spanish stayed at home =P. We lost one King they lost Three Emirs. We were in fighting in Morroco alone since 100 years, refresh. Man you just took to much time to take Al-Andaluz. Portugal exists since 1141, Spain later, because before it was Castilla, Leon, then Castilla-Leon.
wationsfils 2 years ago
All the east and Africa was Portuguese, so it means more than half of the Empire of Portugal and Spain (Spanish Empire for you) was in fact lands of Portugal that were never adminstrated or occupied by spanish, Refreshhhhhh. Please read books, and stop reading only Franco shit. Go read about Napoleon invasion in Portugal, and Spanish invasion in 1640, you will see this was always your Vietname. Aljubarrota 10.000 Portuguese agaisnt 40.000 Spanish with French cavalary support, you lost ;) refres
wationsfils 2 years ago
Learn english, learn italian and french, and also portuguese, and then read books. I have read books of history of all those languages. Check please battles of 1640, battles of 1385 in Portugal, where u come thinking this was easy "Coño", and get your ass kicked by a few portuguese peasants. You are ridiculous, and your country's history has nothing of glorious. You submited to Napoleon, we never. You hired a Portuguese navigator Colombo to go Americasss, Go read, check it, refresh, Aljubarrota
wationsfils 2 years ago
You know more languages than me, but you are 10000 times mor ignorant. Please don,t go to the internet to write things that you know in the real live the people will make fun of you.
I,m bored, you bored me, your stupid arguments without no historical support bored me.
By my gypsy friend, and remember don,t be so jelause ;-)
Muito obrigado
cebri220108 2 years ago
Ah! something for you: your posesions in Africa were only harbors and little cities, all Africa!!!ajajajajajajajajja and the same in the east, only little parts of land and cities (Makao) read please, read real books.
cebri220108 2 years ago
your stupid country end it glory in 1492, since then you become a shit country, full of prostitutes, no contry matter your ideas and wats happening in portugal because portugal don,t have importance. Your women have hair in the armpits and in the legs, portuguese people are like gypsy.
Don,t be so jelous my friend, i know that you cry because your country only know to sell slaves and destroy, but don,t be sad...
cebri220108 2 years ago
, we were the country that have grow more in the world this last decades, OUR language is the 3th more speak in the world after the Chinese and English, and this is because we expand our culture to losts of parts in the world, we hace the most glroy history in the world, WE conquer half of the world, OUR soldiers figth in Flandes, in Filipinas, in EEUU, in ALL south america, in Africa.......
cebri220108 2 years ago
My english is a shit, you know lots of languages, but you are really stupid, ignorant and awful.
Portugal is a shit of country, your economy is a shit, 28% of your population wants to unify Spain with Portugal because (refreshhhhh) we are the 8th power in the worl, we have DEMOCRACY
cebri220108 2 years ago
I acept that the most intelligent people in the worl in this age were the moors, but the moors coexist with the spanish in "la península" for centuries, this turn into the spanish the most intelligens people in Europe.
And don,t talk about the Morocco campaign of the portuguese, i,m going to refresh your memory: battle of The Three Kings (La Batalla de los Tres Reyes) the 4 of August of 1578.... ;-)
cebri220108 2 years ago
Yes right. I think you are not ignorant, and you deserve my waste of time even if you said the contrary. I wanted you to answer thats why I said so many things. I dont scorn Spanish culture, but you have to recognize that Iberia was in social and economic crisis before the moors, thats why I said Barbarians. The biggest empire the world has ever seen was called Empire of Portugal and Spain, it was an alliance, refreshh;).Battle of Alcaçer Quibir was later, who was in the front line: Portuguese
wationsfils 2 years ago
But you saying the Spanish, is like today we say the Arabs, or the Europeans (they are all different things). Spain was divided in different kingdoms, but I understand. And no dont say in the world... only if the world is just the peninsula... Look to the middle east, look to Constantinopla, and the city states of Italy, yes there you have the rests of the roman civilization, here my friend: Barbarians, Visigoths, Toledo capitol of barbarians. Even france was in a better condition than us.
wationsfils 2 years ago
You gotta check why we won Crusades, why the arabs run from the crusades. Arabs were more sophisticated in those times that's why they had less fundamentalism less courage fighting in jihad. You gotta see why they lost reconquista, they only lost because we fought more like barbarians, Portuguese and Spanish won so many battles because of the fundamentalism, they lost because of their rationalism. Study where we learn Maths, Physics, Astronomy, and most of all NAVIGATION.
wationsfils 2 years ago
Al-Andaluz gave us Renascence. Portugal went alone to India and more, whyle you all were afraid of monsters of the Ocean, like it or not. The spanish in the reconquista fought way too slow, and were so many !! we were to few... and arrived at Algarve quickly. Most of the spanish patrimonio is Arab, and remenber how much u destroyed and burned. Remenber how we always fought with few and achieved so many great things. Whyle you won by the numbers, I wait cordially for your answer, Refresh !!!!
wationsfils 2 years ago
And I want loose my time with you anymore. I thought you were intelegent... I was wrong. Read Books also in other languages, of course spanish books will defend SPANISH points of view. Remenber that you never had revolution, what you have is Monarchy and a prolongation of Franco regime. We had Revolution and we killed the kings, kicked fascism, and cleaned all the nationalist and history brainwash of the Fascism, you DONT, thats why u are so ignorant, with that nazi points of view.
wationsfils 2 years ago
And about the discursion of the moors, YES i accept that they were the most intelligent people in the worl in this age, but the spanish (i say spanish for not saying all the time Castilla y León, Navarra y Aragón) include this wisdom to their culture.
And also we don,t won the Reconquista because we had more soldiers, because this is a lie, no, we won because the moores where divided in Taifas (little extensions of land) and they don,t help each other.
cebri220108 2 years ago
I think this discusion is stupid, you are not going to accept nothing, you think that portugal was the best and Spain a shit, and this is the most biggest lie that i have never seen. Portugal was a very important country with the king Enrique "el Navegante", but when spain discover America, it become the first power in the worl and portugal year by year become more weak until they turn into mediocre country.
Aslo please, read about the golden age of spain, becouse you don,t know nothing.
cebri220108 2 years ago
Thats why you hate us. Spain was always kicked in Portugal. We kicked your gypsy flamenco ass always. Even when you were 1000000 men. NApoleon send here 3 generals die all got kicked, you spanish maricones just surrendered easily to him, mariconesssss!!! Aljubarrota kick spanish ass easily 10.000 Portuguese agaisnt 40.000 Spanish ahahah. What a shame !! do you study Aljubarrota in school, im sure you dont !! its such a shameful thing ! If I was spanish I would rather suicide. Adioz gillipollas
wationsfils 2 years ago
And Mexico, Venezuela, Colombia, Peru, Argentina, Bolivia, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay, Ecuador, Honduras, El Slavador, Nicaragua, Cuba, Republica Dominicana piss in this gypsy country called Brasil. Poor Brasil, they speak this gypsy language called portuguese, the language of prostitutes and homosexuals, our spanish "Machos" goes to you country to kick your homosexual ases and fuck with your mother.
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Your are so stupid men.........jajajajajaja
cebri220108 2 years ago
jajjajajajajaajjaajjajajajajajajajajaajjajaja
Please don,t say more stupid things you are makeing me laught a lot!!!
I think you are the most stupid men in your shit country no?jajajajajajjajajajajaja
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All portuguese is gypsy!!!
Please stupid gypsy, continue sayeing this subnormal things, i,m haveing a good time with you, you are my personal clown ;-)
(and is Adiós, learn some spanish, ignorant)
cebri220108 2 years ago
lol why are you even bragging about Portuguese? they just come to countries liike France for example and do the dirty jobs that noone wants to do.. your women are hairy as shit and i'm sorry but when Spain was owning all the world and South America Portugal was kissing Spains ass to leave land for the Portos to have their own little "colony"..
FRApp44300 2 years ago
I think you have to read so much books, because part of the history that you are talking is invented.
1º There wasn,t an empire called Portugal and Spain, only for a simple reason: we concer portugal in 1580, in 1581 the king Felipe II is also the king of Portugal, refresh ;-). Only existe one empire, the Spanish empire where the sun don,t disappear.
You talk about our superiority, ok i,m going to refresh you an other time, the Spanish concer America with only a thousand men ¡¡0.0!!
cebri220108 2 years ago
Amigo se quieres hablar en español non és un problema.
Part of the things I agree with you. Slave-trade etcetc... Empire of Portugal and Spain was the name of the empire composed by two different kingdoms that united their colonies. Spain never conquered Portugal, but yes the King of Portugal died in crusade, and since he had no heirs we agreed to form an alliance, with the condition that the colonies, language and culture was respected in both sides. This comes from the books, However if you
wationsfils 2 years ago
King Felipe II was son of Portuguese princess, and when he inherited by blood line the crown of Portugal he agreed to govern the two kingdoms as two different countries... My friend what im telling you is just facts, King Felipe I of Portugal and II of Spain was a great King, the same cant be said about his successor ;) Cristovao Colombo was Portuguese, but in this it is not a good thing, because we rejected his dream, and of course he went to spain asking for support.
wationsfils 2 years ago
Spanish conquered Aztec with one thousand man with those coward attacks. Ok portugal slave trade etc... okok you are right. But Slavery was normal in those ages. You cant compare your conquest of mexico with our conection of the East to the west that we made. Remenber before us there was only one world, one trade route, and the submission to the arab market control.We brought the final victory agaisnt the ottomans,and their economic crisis (Refresh).We fought in the sea, land always outnumbered
wationsfils 2 years ago
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Cowards attacks?¿??¿' please don,t say that tipe of things, we concer all America with ingenuity. Our men were so brave, the most brave soldiers in this age, so don,t say atrocityes.
cebri220108 2 years ago
It is not like my country is the best yours not... its not that, i have spanish friends that i made when i was in italy, and i must say i love your culture, and party spirit, and always nice and good disposition. But when we talk about history facts, cmon, it is not to say im better than you, its facts, dont be offended when I say, that we being so few and with little resources achieved great discoveries. When i started talking about spain, i was not saying bad things about your country
wationsfils 2 years ago
In fact I was only saying that we both Portugal and Castilla e Leon were like in economic and social crisis in the medieval ages, before Spain existed. I never said nothing wrong against Spain. Why it makes u confused the facts. Everything u can say about Spain, not castille and Leon was achieved later... not as little kingdoms, u gotta accept that we went out of this stupid medieval mentality and believed world was bigger than what church told you. Monsters in the sea, flat earth...
wationsfils 2 years ago
Thats why we portuguese had so many problems with the Pope, and thats why we were the only ones to receive the KNIGHTS TEMPLAR,as the new ORDER OF CRISTO, after all the europe perscute them. Dont be angry with this one too. Accept it... Europe were divided in stupid kingdoms fighting each other, and we had the idea to cross the ocean, you all were afraid of the monsters like it or not. Spain was a big empire, and therefore had economic support and numbers to achieve everything.And please answer
wationsfils 2 years ago
There are some thing that are fixed: there was a portuguese Empire before 1580, and there was an spanish Empire since 1492, but never an Empire call the Empire of Spain and Portugal.
Portugal was rich and strong with the King Enrique the Navigator, but then, when Spain discover America, the portuguese Empire become weak and weak and weak.
Also Cristobal Colón was GENOVESE, of Genova, not portuguese, please don,t say unrealistic things.
cebri220108 2 years ago
MAn please, go learn english, sometimes u look like u are talking your "Coño" language instead of english. Man about the portuguese girls maybe yes you r traumatized because Portuguese woman fought in Aljubarrota. Me I dont have any complaints about spanish girls, I like them allot, they are horny and slutty, easy cerdas, you call me gypsy, but your sister enjoys portuguese guys. And gypsies here in iberia only in Andaluzia, everybody knows spanish for being cerdos and gypsies eheh.
wationsfils 2 years ago
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In 1581, Felipe II become the king of Portugal, but the economi of Portugal was managed by Felipe II, and in Portugal were spanish troops. So Portugal was part of Spain. Then in 1640 you get your freedom, but befor that all the economy of Portugal was property of Spain.
Other thing, lots of historians say that Spain apear with the Catholic Kings.
cebri220108 2 years ago
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You talk about the ottomans, and you say that you were so brave fighting on the sea, ok do you know the battle of "Lepanto" ? OUR navy destroy the ottomans, please read about this battle.
cebri220108 2 years ago
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Portugal was a great country with a great empire, but you can,t compare this with the Spanish empire, the most big and through never seen. An empire were the sun never disappear, not because the lands of portugal, because we have Filipinas. So don,t compare something that you can,t compare, the concer of America was 100000000 por important than the union with the East.
cebri220108 2 years ago
u know what spanish girls r so crazy, they like portuguese big stick in their mouths because spanish have short dicks ahah. Thats why u hate me and my country, because your girl will never forget me aha in all the world people know you for being cerdos, spanish cerdos, like you know, you never take bath, you smell like pigs. Go check history you ignorant piece of shit. Refresh. You will see an hundred humilliations spain lived here in this lands. We are your biggest frustration and defeat
wationsfils 2 years ago
And also check Battle of Aljubarrota, looks like it was a good afternoon. Castilla the Most intelegents of medieval ages ahah
wationsfils 2 years ago
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Also don,t talk about the destruction of spain, because portugal burn and destroy the same of every one.
Portugal was aslo one of the biggest slave-trader in the world.
I don,t know why you scorn Spain, i think if you are portuguese you are jelous about the today situation of Spain, and the mediocre situation of potugal.
If you want to continue this discussion:
My english is a shit and i bored to write right here.
cebri220108 2 years ago
However if you doubt what im saying, see the facts by yourself. See why we dont had to move a finger to get back all our empire... Because it simple was all in our control since 1580 like u said. When in 1640 we resolved our differences, every single Portuguese colony of what you call the Empire that sun never sets, suddenly uprised agaisnt Empire of Portugal and Spain' (!?Refresh?!) Portugal become mediocre country because of Luxury, we were lost even before the battle of the three kings.
wationsfils 2 years ago
Portugal was a great country with a great empire, but you can,t compare this with the Spanish empire, the most big and through never seen. An empire were the sun never disappear, not because the lands of portugal, because we have Filipinas. So don,t compare something that you can,t compare, the concer of America was 100000000 por important than the union with the East.
cebri220108 2 years ago
You talk about the ottomans, and you say that you were so brave fighting on the sea, ok do you know the battle of "Lepanto" ? OUR navy destroy the ottomans, please read about this battle.
cebri220108 2 years ago
go check it. No armies were here, we were united to you because of BLOODLINE NOT conquest, and you dont knowing that reveals some lack of knowledge on this, refresh. The name of the empire was like it or not, Empire of Portugal and Spain, due to the importance of Portugal in those times, it was not like today, everybody knew Portugal in those times, it was not like ok King dies in morroco, now everything from India to Brazil is Spain, that is unrealistic. He united under the same Flag,just that
wationsfils 2 years ago
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cebri220108 2 years ago
In 1581, Felipe II become the king of Portugal, but the economi of Portugal was managed by Felipe II, and in Portugal were spanish troops. So Portugal was part of Spain. Then in 1640 you get your freedom, but befor that all the economy of Portugal was property of Spain.
Other thing, lots of historians say that Spain apear with the Catholic Kings.
cebri220108 2 years ago
Ok again part of what u said is true. Portugal administration and ALL the colonies were under PORTUGUESE administration as well as spanish administration was under spanish administration, however we shared our economy trade and military. Notice that when u say, Spain was the biggest empire, remenber that when suddenly Portugal (and think why all the colonies without any spanish troops SUDDENLY uprised) this is a fact no spanish troop in colonies. And yes you had to invade Portugal with an army
wationsfils 2 years ago
thats the most important fact. You say Portugal was occupied with troops... I dont know where you read this, Portugal was occupied with Portuguese troops loyal to King Felipe II and unloyal to FILIPE III. Portugal fought along side with Spanish man throughtout Europe for what I telling you that was called Empire of Portugal and Spain that you refuse to accept because u dont like it, for me is cool. For me was the best empire but ok I dont like the Portugal there I dont say anymore that eheh
wationsfils 2 years ago
But if you dont like that Empire of Portugal and Spain, you must also hate the flag of your Empire of Sun never SEt =P, go check it, the crown of Portugal is occupies a place of honor right in the center. That means that Portugal was the most important part of the empire, which Filipe II half portuguese man dues most of his power. Guess what... King Filipe II respected Portugal, and was the right successor to the Portuguese king because of bloodline, and no Portuguese heirs. thats why we were 1
wationsfils 2 years ago
Please Im just trying to make u understand a part of the history without passionate visions. Half of the Empire was truly Portuguese, and there was no spanish troops in Brasil or Africa for example, King Filipe II needed Portuguese loyalty and he knows he would never get it by war, or he would have to fight in every place of the world, and therefore loose his power, England and France would give you Golpe de Gracias, if you loose your forces fighting us for non sustainable conquest.
wationsfils 2 years ago
There is no proofs of Cristovao Colon was genovese. There is proofs that he speaks Portuguese, and Spanish with Portuguese accent... There is proofs of his hometown in Alentejo Portuguese Province, a town called Cuba, that by coincidence is the same name for the island in Americas. Do you have any town called Cuba in Spain ? No, however there is no proofs of this theory being right so yes i must say I dont know exactly if he was portuguese, but he wasnt italian nor spanish. We have documents
wationsfils 2 years ago
Maybe the succesor King Filipe III, the stupid one, maybe this one called his empire Empire of Spain, and thats why we separated ... His father knew how to be respected by Portuguese people, and believe thats a crazy thing, thats why he put Portuguese crown in the center of the flag. Hermanito its not like I hate Spain, its just we could somehow be united, but we are different, im sorry we are too different cultures since the ancient times. We are atlantic, like galicians but more different...
wationsfils 2 years ago
And see believe me its not a beautiful thing, if u want some kind of union you gotta be careful because peoples are always unhappy and ready to make battle. Even nowadays that we have all the reasons to be united, and that even me I have Galician relatives, spanish friends etc... It doesnt work that way, it is better to be separated and respect as brothers, because if there is union, any problem we would point the finger to Spain, and you would have war here, like País Basco, it is not good...
wationsfils 2 years ago
This is just for you my friend. All this words for you. We all should learn from history, and for this one you gotta see, Portugal and Spain were united but it didnt last because we were not okay united, maybe it was good for military and economy, but then people and their culture and identity and their valours just talk more higher, and then there is battle. Even today that nothing of that makes sense, its not easy. Maybe in the future you can have an united world, but now for god sake No
wationsfils 2 years ago
And don,t talk anymore about Franco, if you live in a shit of country and you need to invent a story to be happy and thing that portugal is something don,t enter to internet to tell your story.
You are a really ignorant, pelase read.
And, like you say, This is for you my friend, only for you: READ REAL BOOKS
cebri220108 2 years ago
I,m bored about you, you only say stupid things, that only a fantastic history can say.
Read realistic books please, not books that you invent.
cebri220108 2 years ago
And the half of the spanish empire was lands of Portugal?¿?¿??¿¿? jajajajajaj plsease don,t make me laguth, do yo know what lands that spain have?: all south america except brasil, 3/4 of EEUU, Flandes, Milan, the kindom of Napoles, lands in Greece, in north Africa, Filipinas, etc, etc.....this are the same of Portugal??¿?jajajajajaj...please please, study Geography.
cebri220108 2 years ago
I promise you that i have never read all this riduculous history things in one text.
Cristobal Colón, was GENOVESE, read books pleaseee!!! There is a picture of the face of Cristobal Colón that say: BORN IN GENOVA.
cebri220108 2 years ago
Man. You dont have arguments see. You just say, blabla you r ignorant and stupid things blabla. I think you are the ignorant one and your english skills prove it. I dont know but I think with that english, you never read a single book. Me I have read books in english, portuguese, italian and spanish, I speak 5 languages with french, so my friend you gotta study allot to get to my level believe me. But for a spanish guy u speak good english, I met lots of spanish who dont know a word of english
wationsfils 2 years ago
again I see u speakin like "coño". you say u expanded culture ? u only sacked americas and started getting gold here in europe. Harbours ? I love this one, man we get all the harbours in a couple of years, the harbours were the center of all the economy. Portugal full of prostitutes ? Last time spanish mothers come here I dont know, maybe u r right. Brasil is the major economy in South America, and they control your shitty colombias and venezuelas, Compare the territories, u only colonized shit
wationsfils 2 years ago
Brasil rules South America Gypsies. Peruans, Mexicans Colombians aall gipsies, and if you see, the map, Brasil big and great territory. Mexico and other gypsies get only rests. Cebri gypsy. Spain gypsy, Spain only good to fuck cerdas ahhahahahaha. Spanish girls like Portuguese guys ahaaha. AJAJAJ jajaja. Españolitos Mariconessssssssssssssssss ejejejejeje
wationsfils 2 years ago
portugueses judeosssssssssss!
dkrustyklown 2 years ago
shalom
wationsfils 2 years ago
espanoles maricones shalom
wationsfils 2 years ago
portugal la fundo un español asi que a callar,wenoh en realidad cualquier hombre nacido en la pennsula iberica podria considerarse español
Dani14Gerona 2 years ago
oh amigo ! non ! portugal was founded long time ago... before D. Henrique, Portugal was already an independent entity. No doubt we have allot of spanish influence and similarity. But we are diferent, remember you r more Mediterranean, we are 100% Atlantic. If you study history of Portugal you'll notice a diferent identity since the Castros culture, since Lusitanians. Romans understood that, so they created a specific region. And D. Henrique Portuguese first king was from Burgundy - France
wationsfils 2 years ago
Lusitania no comprendia lo que hoy en dia es solo portugal lusitania tambien comprendia extremadura(españa).Aparte eso no era mas que para crear regiones en la peninsula pero como provincia solo habia una y se llamava HISPANIA al igual que la galia eran provicncias y os romanos fueran de cualquier lado de la peninsula lo consideravan HISPANOS.
Dani14Gerona 2 years ago
Non ! One thing was the Lusitanians another thing was the Vascones and another thing was the Cailicians.... etc etc
Emerita Augusta was infact the doors to Lusitania. Remember, Lusitanians made romans pass an hard time here in IBeria. Lusitanians were fought romans like GAULS
wationsfils 2 years ago
Portugal before being called CountY of Portugal (Condado), was an diferent entity, with relative autonomy, the so called Barons of Portucale. After that D. Henrique from France crusade in Reconquista for the King of Leon, and received the lands of Portugal for his deeds in battle. His son, D. Afonso, born in Portugal supported by the Barons of Portucale asked for independence. Castros Culture, Lusitanians, Suevi, Portuguese, all different from the rest of the Peninsula. Im sorry its just true..
wationsfils 2 years ago
@wationsfils Actualy would be Gallaeci(castro culture) not Lusitanians and in matter fact both Gallaeci and Lusitinains were present in Spain aswell(Galicia Extremadura) but if you want to go in that road well I would say different from the rest of Iberia were the Portuguese(North of Portugal only) and Galicians in fact both these peoples share comom birth the Suevi Kingdmon was the Kingdmon of Galicia that inclued COunty Portucalense so in matter fact Portuguese-Galician desdend from both Suevi
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
And romanized Gallaeci
ImperialGuard9001 1 year ago
@ImperialGuard9001Yes and no. Lusitanians were castro culture too. Suevi didn't originated Callaici or Lusitanians, they were both there before the romans and Suevi came after romans. Callaici occupied a territory that extended of Oporto. From what cames the name of Portugal, Port of Calles, Calles=Callaici. Yes Portugal in its essence came from the Galicians. Portuguese-Galician descend from Callaici, Suevi are just a celtic phase. Portuguese were more influenced by Lusitanians as you go south
wationsfils 1 year ago
But if you really want to know. As far as you respect me I'll respect you. And honestly I like your country and your culture. Just when I have a spanish stupid guy sayin bad things about my country, I just have to retribute in the same words. If you want to be brothers, we will be brothers. If you want to have battle, the past will repeat :)
wationsfils 2 years ago
veo que no te aclaras sobre los origenes de tu pais.Portugal era un CONDADO del reino de LEON,que decidieron independizarse y formar un reino aparte,pero bueno quisieron independizarse y asi os va.
Dani14Gerona 2 years ago
Infact the romans didnt consider all people from the peninsula as hispanics. They particularly distinguished the Lusitanians for their braveness in battle and guerrilla tactics. Also the Vascones were known from every wise man. If you say like the comon people, yes the comon Roman people with no knowledge would call this all Hispania. As well as some Americans consider Europe a single country, because of lack of knowledge. Do you understand me ?
wationsfils 2 years ago
HISPANIA = IBERIA. Cuando la península era romana había tres provincias, Lusitania, Baetica y Tarraconensis, no habia ninguna provincia llamada hispania que yo sepa, es absurdo pensar que lusitania no fuese considerada por los romanos como parte hispania. Es más Iberia es el nombre que usaban los griegos para referirse a la península, hispania el que usaban los feniciios, que posteriormente fue el que se impuso entre los romanos, eso es así.
Malo06 2 years ago
@Malo06 first of all. The peninsula was called Iberia before the romans, by the greeks, so stop calling this hispanic. The romans created two regions with the name Hispania. Hispania Cetirior and Hispania Ulterior. Than obviously, to simplify, when they talk about Iberia they use to call it Hispania. But the romans use to distinguish very well, what was Lusitania-Galleacia, and what was not. Lusitania was Finisterra, where the world ends. The famous river in Portugal, where Legions didn't want
wationsfils 1 year ago
@wationsfils lusitans, iberians and celts were all present both in spain and portugal, same as romans, suevi, vandals, goths, arabs. So what a mix of cultures to call themselves just "lusitans".
kaikovich 11 months ago
@Malo06 The famous river in Portugal, where Legions thought they would loose their memories and so refused to cross.
wationsfils 1 year ago
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TheGuesso 2 years ago
@cebri220108 barbaro quer dizer cultura e lingua diferente, e portugal mesmo neutro foi importante, varias vezes castella pediu ajuda a portugal em batalhas
duartesilvaaa 1 year ago
i wnted to play it but aint in English :\
Eaglethepunisher 3 years ago
peinlich die ganzen rechtschreibfehler im trailer xD
KingRodriques 3 years ago
Wo siehst du da Rechtschreibfehler?
RobinCatoTW 3 years ago
mir is beim Ansehen nur einer aufgefallen
"Zahlose neue Einheiten"
das muss noch ein L rein
alteracofblizzard 2 years ago
@RobinCatoTW Zahlose, nur als Bsp.
sushiquak88 1 year ago
There should be a Hundred Years War campaign too, to do justice to the English bow.
KapernicusI 3 years ago
Yeah sure.
But we spent also much time on representing it in Reconquista.
RobinCatoTW 3 years ago
I 'spose the longbow will have similar statistics to other campaigns though. The longbow's missile attack was rediculous when compared to other missile units.
KapernicusI 3 years ago
I said there should be a reconquitsa campaign!
KapernicusI 3 years ago
Genial, weiß man schon ungefährt wann die neue Version erscheinen wird ?
alteracofblizzard 3 years ago
wtf? This is fucking BRILLIANT!
phanthrax 3 years ago
thanks :-)
RobinCatoTW 3 years ago
This looks great! I've been wanting to play a Reconquista mod. Wonder how hard it would be for an English speaker to figure out the UI
InfidelFromHell 3 years ago
Where can I dowload this mod? And can it be translated?
ImperialGuard9001 3 years ago
German Open Beta will be released on this weekend. The release date of the translation is still tba
RobinCatoTW 3 years ago
can you play the moors? I like playing underdogs ^^
vsovereign2 3 years ago
Yeah. And there also many other islamic factions.
RobinCatoTW 3 years ago
Underdogs? WTF you on about? The reconquista was reclaiming spain from a powerful Moorish empire! They were hardly underdogs!
KapernicusI 3 years ago
The "powerful empire" part ends with the Cordovan Caliphate. It became what? 20-something statelets? Hardly a match for Castile + Aragon, no?
vsovereign2 3 years ago
At the beginning of the reconquista they were certainlty powerful. The fact that the reconquista took so long shows the Moors must have been powerful, ot at least hardly an underdog.
KapernicusI 3 years ago
I can't argue with that logic...
But I stand by my opinion that the Moors became underdog after the fall of the Cordovan Caliphate
vsovereign2 3 years ago
Man kann euch für eure Arbeit nur loben!
Ich bedanke mich recht herzlich für den Aufwand an Freizeit, den ihr für diesen Mod aufbringen musstet!
Ich erwarte bereits mit Sehnsucht die Openbetaversion ;-)
MfG BoM
BoM191188 3 years ago
Will be translated in Spanish?
Amaiur85 3 years ago
Aupa Navarra!!!
Amaiur85 3 years ago
congratulations for the mod! its nice
sotopete 3 years ago
Thanks a lot.
It will also be translated for English Players
RobinCatoTW 3 years ago
i can translate it in Italian if you want...
Danorious 3 years ago
ja, der Mod hat schon was!
EIne Perle der deutschen Szene!
Da fühlt man sich geehrt, ihn ins englsiche zu übersetzen^^
HectorNevada 3 years ago 2
richtig geile mod
Ondi8 3 years ago
cooler Mod! kann man sich den irgentwo downloaden?
Havanamoe 3 years ago
Die Open Beta wird am 9.8.2008 erscheinen, den Download Link wirst du dann hier ind er Videobeschreibung und im Forum, zu dem ich den Link ja bereits in der Beschreibung gepostet habe finden.
Mittlerweile hat sich ne Menge getan. Es gibt massig neue Units und Helden.
RobinCatoTW 3 years ago
can you translate to english or spanish please?
sotopete 3 years ago
¡Good mod!
Theboogeyman69ECW 3 years ago