Bill Bruford - Indiscipline

[DoctorEeam]

once again mr bruford shows us why he is one of the worlds greatest drummers

[GregMagDrums]

We love you Bill looking forward to your newest 'sound'

your to young to retire.

[GregMagDrums]

You want to hear something wild,

click on my link below to my band

[Easleytee]

Nothing remotely musical or complex going on here.

Check out Tony Oxley for a better take on abstract, free form playing.

[Ambulanceo]

@Easleytee

lolhipster

[needlearmor]

this video angle makes it look like he is in a cave. goes well with the evil murky sound of the song.

[Akira0ws]

brain.exe overflow, kBoom

[moonofre]

He in a way brought fussion riffs to Yes, one of a kind drummer innarguably. The Tony Williams disciple or follower,

[millonety123]

estoy totalmente de acuerdo con las opiniones de churchill...es mi drummer favorito desde siempre. Creo que fue el pionero de la bateria moderna a finales de los 60', cuando todo estaba por hacer en el rock. Fripp lo cogió para evolucionar a king crimson en la banda más innovadora del rock progresivo. Su discografia es impresionante y siempre variando, descubriendo cosas nuevas apenas sin esfuerzo. Único!!!

[CarlesCanals]

I was sad when he left Crimso. The quartet -Fripp, Belew, Levin and he- sounded compact, no leak.

[BLooDCoMPleX]

Now this is what you call a drum-solo.

[genalof]

A joy to watch and listen to, Bruford is truly One Of A Kind.

[CHURCHILLSTAN723]

BRUFORD,IS UP THERE WITH THE BIGGIES(Not The Same But,On The Short List

Never-The-Less>Mitch Mitchell,''Ginger''B.,Clive Bunker,Carmine Appice,Neil Pert,

Ainsley Dunbar,Carl Palmer &,A Handfull(A Small Handfull!)Of Others...Dare I Say,

"Buddy'' Rich(Not,The Same Style But, As Inventive!) BILL BRUFORD IS, A MONSTER!!! A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH,ONE OF THE BIG BOYS!!!

[PositivelyBored]

@CHURCHILLSTAN723

He was a force to be reckoned with, but he's retired now of course.

[CHURCHILLSTAN723]

@PositivelyBored ALTHOUGH HE'S RETIRED,(Actually Semi-Retired,He Still Does A Session,Every Now &,

Then..."Mostly Then!)HE IS STILL, A MONSTER &,A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH!!!

[tolovesophia]

He is a pioneer.

[duddy74]

:43 yeah that's right i'm fucking bill bruford motherfucker

[webgeek6]

He's a little dramatic here. (I do love his work over the years.) Remember there is a song going on here, Bill.

[bloggulator]

@webgeek6 the point of this song (from what Fripp mentioned) was for the drummer to to what drummers don't normally do.... ie...while the bass (stick) and guitar kept the basic rhythm, and the drums are free to interpret/solo over it... and play with time, tempo and dynamics

[coreyagraph]

@bloggulator typical fripp........love this

[godu1111]

My metronom got confused from this

If you like Bruford polyrthmics check out Creulean Sea from Upper Extremities - his work with Tony Levin.

[Lightfromsirius]

Master of time!

[JackBlair2]

Alan White is better than Bruford.

[mchampag]

@JackBlair2 Apples and oranges. They're both awesome.

[twinsmm1]

Bruford. Love the drumming, Can't stand the guy. Pretentious Dick.

[rexasul]

@twinsmm1 How is he pretentious?

[eeobeeob]

@rexasul I think he was joking. Bruford's very opinionated after all.

[amccann7]

Bill Bruford is Magical

[GrandFunker]

the ONE guy who may be better than Neil Peart!

[sfklein1]

@GrandFunker  Omar Hakim?

[GrandFunker]

@sfklein1 who?

[DanLetts97]

..from now on you wil refer to him as Mr. Bruford. This guy has always been my favorite drummer...honestly I think hes a genius. I remember the first time and place I heard his music.. I remember the day like it was yesterday. It was actually a vinyl record; a live recording of One of a Kind. The first track was Hells Bells, and I'd never heard such a crazy time signiture before. I'm surprised he isn't credited as an influence more often.

[rixwerld]

God, he makes it looks so effortless...

[azurenscens]

@rixwerld that's because it is, for him at least.

[miguepdvoraks]

genio

[drumnaaron]

Nope.

[PhilistineTheArtLuvr]

G' f'n darn it, how I wish I was on stage with Bruford and my own drumset playing counterpoint to him. A DREAM COME TRUE!!!

[beanz5505]

impressive

[GrooveDoctor77]

Bruford is a great drummer...when Bruford plays he sounds like Bruford ,he has his very unique style

[dwilmer7]

Is Bruford ambidextrous? When he does fills it looks almost totally symmetrical. never seen that before.

[marcdrumz]

yes, he is.

[TheDrumWolf]

Bruford is a fantastic drummer & music legend. I love & really appreciate his work when he was with Yes. I feel that he should've stayed with that band. But he obviously prefers more abstract music. Maybe I'm too much of a simple man but I don't really get what he's doing here. It's off the wall to me like, okay, whatever. Some people have too much brain & too much time, it's scary. Oh well, at least he gets paid for it, right? I'm really not knocking the guy, I love Bill Bruford - with Yes!

[drumjedi]

@TheDrumWolf have you never heard King Crimson? He takes rhythm to new and previously unexplored levels(as he did with Yes)...granted the performance here is out there, he has done much of his best work outside of Yes.

[TheDrumWolf]

I am a huge Yes fan & am only familiar with Bruford through that band. I've never heard any King Crimson music believe it or not. The world of music is so vast & there are alot of groups that I'll probably never get to hear in my lifetime. Would you recommend something if you would be so kind? Perhaps something that I could look up here on YouTube. I realize that what Bruford is doing here is on a much higher level, maybe on another planet. I'm not a college educated person so help me out.

[TheDrumWolf]

What the fuck are you talking about? You know what, I don't really care. I'm human, you're an asshole! Dig that shit!

[coreyagraph]

i'm very sorry i sounded insulting.....not meant that way. i never like to hear anyone think they aren't as aware as another. music is vast and is never-ending. what i was trying to say, which i didn't......was that no one can listen to everything! we learn new things all the time. you probably have heard music none of us have. please accept my humble apology. i never heard of bill bruford till he joined kc because i didn't listen to yes. so i am sure all of us fans have felt the way you do!

[Asymmatrix]

@TheDrumWolf Absolutely start at the beginning. In The Court of the Crimson King. Look up the tracklist and listen to the album in order start to finish.

[Asymmatrix]

@TheDrumWolf Sorry forgot you were asking about Bruford. He's not on In the Court, but I'd say start there anyway. Bruford joined in 73 on Lark's Tongues in Aspic. Just listen to everything from Lark''s to Beat. The 'USA' live album is excellent too. Some are better than others, Red is the last one before the 70's breakup. Discipline ('81) is the reformation of the band with Belew and Levin. Discipline is one of the best albums ever made imho. Up there with In he Court.

[TheDrumWolf]

Okay, thanks for the advice. I'll look into these as soon as I can - should be interesting. You seem very knowledgeable. Thanks again.

[selectorsam]

@TheDrumWolf slippin, crimson better than yes actually

[drumjedi]

Crimson albums that I can think of right now that are excellent are Discipline and Thrak... there are more, but these are good to start with!

[SamStats722]

bill shits.

[crustyshirt]

this makes me scccrrrrreeeeeammmm yyyyalllllhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SPECTRE1961]

MASTER ...

[Asymmatrix]

This kit setup really pisses me off lol. Come on Bill stick with that insane 80's Crimson kit you bloody fool!

[Yarsh52]

I'd imagine he would have trouble getting used to all the changes he makes.

[SamStats722]

if your talking about the 90% electric kit that he had, he used it too when he was with yes

[Asymmatrix]

@SamStats722 No, I'm talking about the acoustic/electronic hybrid kit he used with KC in the 80's.

[aquilario]

Why cut!!!!

[darthjoey13]

Now that's a real matched grip setup. He doesn't have that damned right side bias, which is amazing.

[babarishka]

That's one of the most complex examples of a 2 bar phrase in 4/4 that I have ever heard. I wuv Bill and I'm a guitarist. Geez!!!!!!

[fourplusseven]

I'm the same... I'm a guitarist but I buy video instructionals of Bill.

[Lightmane321]

I tried keeping time to this.  I got dizzy.

[aakkoin]

you know, there is that click there

[Lightmane321]

Yes, I know. I meant the syncopation.

[babarishka]

You do have to focus a bit to keep that bassline steady!!!!!!!

[Topographer]

Well it's good for Bill Bruford that he doesn't have to do this drumming thing that he hated so much any more. Good luck to him :-)

[fourplusseven]

I didn't get the impression he hated it. He just did enough.

It's like when Steve Redgrave won the gold and said he didn't want to get in a boat again.

[Chudhole]

His retiring is like having Jesus retire.  I just don't think it's gonna happen.

[vivelavidarocka]

Well, according to the legend, didn't Jesus retired to heaven?

[PeanutButterGorilla]

so will bill bruford.

[elric69]

And yet, find user RockDorker and you will see him performing "post" retirement... guess you can't keep a good man down... :)

[elric69]

From his website:

Bill has three grown children and continues to live in the Surrey Hills with Carolyn and two cats. He retired from public performance on January 1 2009 after 41 years as a musician, and published his autobiography in March 2009.

Haven't read the book yet, but I'm sure it's very interesting.

[icetroll00]

the man himself

[vivelavidarocka]

I really hope he reconsiders his retirement....

[Timothy1357911]

I agree.

[dwemmy]

What? Musicians aren't supposed to retire...when is this?

[vivelavidarocka]

Yup. I heard that before. And then I read it in an interview in Prog magazine. He wants to be with his wife. No tours, no studio. Nothing. He wants to be just a regular man.

[xxxslayerxxx666]

he's still in time...he just does a bit of metric modulation

[gastro62]

In a word: "WOW!!!!!!!"

[danimoyel21]

Bruford tecnicamente es un gran baterista pero para la música de Yes Alan White es el gran maestro debido a que maneja mucho mejor la energia de lo que la maneja bruford. Ambos son geniales!

[Lyktwz]

Puede ser, si como no que lo que decís sea así.

Pero para mi lo que no admite discusion es que sin Bruford King Crimson no suena igual.

[danimoyel21]

seguro debe ser así, aunque ahí no se muy bien porque no he escuchado lo que esta haciendo ahorita Crimson sin bruford, pero seguro que es una gran baja!

[vivelavidarocka]

Yo los vi aca en New York unos meses atras. Escuche que era para prepararse para otro tour que iban hacer luego en este ano para celebrar el 40 aniversario de la banda. No he vuelto ha escuchar nada desues de eso. El web de KC dice que ahora mismo esta ensenando en Barcelona con unos sesenta guitarristas (la liga de "crafty guitarrists" ) en un casa de oracion sin aire acondicionado. Tambien hara unas presentaciones con ellos en esa ciudad.

[katehill258]

Bill Bruford---a percussive innovator and supreme musician

[SITHYA]

THE MASTER!!!

[justin2535]

That was the best Bruford solo I've seen on here so far. Incredibly creative. His setup is so cool too. Too bad the sound quality isn't a little better.

[Mahavishnu80]

it will be the last as he has retired

[WitWonFilms]

Bill has said many times that he does not consider himself a very technically virtuostic drummer.

Some things to ponder:

1. Consider his touch, how he can play with the same precision at both volume extremes: ppp and fff.

2. Consider what he DOESN'T play: someone once said that music is what happens between the notes. Bill embodies that, and is now afraid to leave "open spaces".

3. His musicality. It's not just rhythm to Bill: not just drumming: it's making music. Exploring the edges.....

[ProDrummer30]

This is really... crazy... This is.. yes.. ähmmm... i like it.. Psychodelic? Okay. great ! :-)

[zgieria]

he's like a machine

[mart3442]

Such a musical Drummer, always one of my top players.

[daseyn]

quite interesting. never saw this live.

[nikobil]

TIGHT snare

[otoya2006]

The best in the world!!!!!!!!

[jimrodman]

Bill is the king, I will now sell my drum kit and blow my brains out

[otoya2006]

Bill is God!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jimrodman]

Bill is the king, I will now sell my drum kit and blow my brains out. Imagine Alan White having to replace him...yeah right.

Yes never sounded the same again..just like Bill wanted it.

[otoya2006]

I agree

[rodcrippler]

alan white's style is different than bill's but that doesn't mean it to be necessarily inferior, i think alan white is quite amazing, he demonstrated it live and on records like relayer, tales from topographic oceans and drama, tho i agree white was less ambicious than bruford

[jimrodman]

I'm guilty of not hearing much Alan White...only the YES stuff that he sloshes thru and doesn't attemp any Bruford nuances. Nothing against Alan...he's a survivor, I'm just a huge Bruford fan.

[rr111160]

Bad Craziness!!

[Cukibea]

I like Bruford.

[nilbog1000]

Musical, baby, musical....

[Lyktwz]

The biggest

[timthanks4]

this is great.

[MindHead77]

How he syncopates and subverts the beat is an art. And he plays with great drama. Which is critical to creating music. Thank you Bill.

[dingoDAD]

What a brainful of clocks...so deliberate and unexpected, but fun and ingenious.

...or just real cool.

[JustADoof]

mister alan white. howe's the vocalist of the millenium?

[MissAnthropic66]

Buddy Guy, Buddy Rich, Max Roach,Gene Krupa,Neil Peart, Dave Lomabardo, Bill Bruford & ... Sean ... off of the top of my head .. phenomenal drummers and my faves.

That was awful , well not awful but a tad disappointing .. I have to find the whole thing now.

[MissAnthropic66]

buddy guy?! .. I blame the hash ;)

he did play guitar with drumsticks though ;)~

[roossy90]

Where was this from?.. he is so old in this vid, like he is trying to relive his kick ass days from Yes and Crimson, which he fucking rocked!!..BB is cool, but he looks bored here, and that aint right!

[jeffersonhomemusic]

Have to disagree with you here. Look at his body language--he's totally into what he's doing, as ONLY he can do it. A master of time.

[nrobnas65]

check out tony williams-maybe you have....he is one of my faves.

[drumsrule182]

what u mean 'maybe you have' lol tony williams is one of the most famous drummers in history

[HonestJoe2]

Best YES drumer there was...and he was only 18 when their first album came out! Wow...

[roossy90]

Yes,, but that was long ago, as much I love yes, I think BB was much better as a skin man for Crimson, but this video is pitiful as far as BB's real talent..... love him even if he looks like he is trying to teach newbies how to tan some skins...

[Fit4Demolition]

definitely a different kind of drummer. just his style is different from others ive seen. his arms are wide open and barely ever cross. and the way he holds the stick is something ive never seen before either. its like hes just pointing

[54spiritedwill54]

He's just the greatest, smartest drummer of all times.

[delialah14]

best drummer in the world.period.

[MrFloydPink]

best genesis drummer

[arvydas0069]

great off time drumming....i think it must take a very high iq for a drummer's brain to process what he's playing off time such as this.

[todnyc]

i was thinking the same thing. when he does the few measures of 4/4 double-time at the beginning and then lands right on the 5/4 downbeat, i was like "this dude is a mathematical genius."

[todnyc]

woops, i meant 11/4

[edstirling]

mmmmm, it's not double time, that would be easy, the vamp's in 8/4, and he's taking 5th-notes and doing a four-beat pattern with those... so it's in five-fourths time... the math isn't that hard, but actually hearing where the 5th-notes are supposed to be is not natural. He does the same thing with half-fifths near the end. thirds and fifths push the beat out of control, thirds to make it feel sluggish, fifths to make it feel hyper. it's like rhythmic drugs. ack!

[effclef06]

not sure about that one. it sounds to me like the overall pulse is 4 (or 8) then he's taking 12 over 8 accenting3,7,11 of the 12, then on it goes. i'd be interested to hear your rationale.

thanks for getting into the discussion, i love BB's melodic rhythm.

cheers!

[Lyktwz]

Bill is the BEST

[Sandbag209]

On the edge of my chair waiting for the guitars to kick in :(

[beeshot]

The man is amazing .. brilliant! I kept waiting for Adrian to join in ;) Bruford's nonchalance is incomparable; he is a master, indeed!

[loveisred12]

i like bruford best in crimson but he is obviously amazing doing solo work and his earthworks group is phenomenal.

[manarm90]

fucking bruford rules

[acoronab]

Fan-tas-tic

[funkbeastbasslover]

i love what he plays between 1:10 and 1:20

so fuckin awesome

[poodleenvy]

I agree 1000%

[1crayfish2]

i agree 0.54%

[poodleenvy]

a veritable cat and mouse game with the fourth dimension by the master himself..the thomas edison of mindfuck drumming...

[KMatteKudasaiC]

The song is awkward to listen to on th album..but seeing bill playing it it really show's that it isn't complete nonsense.

[grailmastah]

wholly schmidt, dizzles, this jazzle-saurus Rex, with those frawndastulous impedications, that is ossum, Billy B. has really turned out to be one of my best pupils. dude Khatru ROX!!!!!

[vidgamer77]

I love his off time changes, and I love getting a headache from his style...the best there is!

[HankShermann]

alex holzwarth!

[Bendersound]

An inspiration

[romaneberle]

insane.

[tamadrummer21]

KING CRIMSON is one of my favorites, and so is Bill

[bellacoypantera]

bruford puede desintegrarme en sonidos

[Marine475]

As playful as a child and precise as drumm machine and all of this set for total rytmic mayhem.

[CoheedMars90]

Any idea if this was the clinic he gave in Hamilton? Because it looks like the one I went to, I can't tell.

[leavingentropia]

yes, the one at Mohawk College

[CoheedMars90]

Awesome thanks man, this was insane, I was annoyed with the kid who won the free snare at the end hahaha.

[goelvoeo]

He's just the greatest, smartest drummer of all times. He has an incredible, unique way of drumming.

Long live Bill Bruford.

Long live Robert Fripp!

[EmiliaB87]

Popdrummer? lol. He's a musician...a studied one. An accomplished polyrythmic drummer. Of course...known for his work in art rock (Yes, King Crimson and some time with Genesis as well), and fusion. But never a popdrummer!

[slingerland755]

He is NOT a pop drummer dude! He is anything But a pop drummer.

[dtoet]

bb is to my knowledge the best popdrummer there ever was, he is not only a part of the rythm sexion, he is a compleet muscisian. mind my language i,am not english.

[hermansiebenpfeiffer]

counterrhythms from hell ! bill doesn' t stop half way ! wonderful drumming !

[5thofgin]

gentlemen...im a victim of to much sex drugs and rock and roll .....my times are off ....i was back stage at the spectrum in philly and norfolk va....ill call my buddy in Cal and get the date strait....if i can remember his phone# lol

[5thofgin]

when i first heard roundabout [YES] in 68 or 69 i was blown away by BB and have been ever since....i met him and YES in 74 and was honored to be serenaded by them BB is THE BEST there is in my humble opinion

[jamigain]

Bill left Yes in 1972...

[hellotimetogo]

In 74 that would have been Alan White....

Roundabout came out in

[DCussen]

He completely laughs at rhythm. He has absolute mastery over it and plays with it like a cat. I've never seen a drummer so completely free do whatever he feels like, like some four year old with sticks that starts banging, yet so completely aware of where "1" is and what he's doing. It's amazing and hilarious. I'm not a great drummer, but I think you have to be advanced to even know fully the skill here, yet, you don't have to be a drummer at all to enjoy it.

[Frupp]

Very nicely said.

[grandpascorpion]

There are recordings of Bruford playing 21st Schizoid Man but Giles played it originally of course.

[drhowarddrfinedrhowa]

21st Century Schizoid Man was usually the encore number during KC's Starless & Bible Black tour. Lots of good bootlegs floating around from that one, including a live broadcast on the King Biscuit Flower Hour.

As a drummer, Bruford trumps Giles any day of the week IMHO.

[1337jazzdrums]

thats true, but giles is still regarded as a extremely innovative drummer

[drhowarddrfinedrhowa]

I agree, Mike Giles drumming is cool. He's especially good on the Giles Giles & Fripp Brondesbury Tapes CD.

[pbdiraimondo]

i play the drums, but i am too basic... this rythms are beatuifull to me... i love it... great drummer bruford... i never heard much of him, but it´s extremely creative and spontaneous... beautifull...

[wedrinkritalin]

i may sound noobish,but nothing ever beats his drumming on 21st schicziod man,but im a n00b

[ralafriz]

if you're referring to the original off the court of the crimson king, that wasn't bruford. it was michael giles.

[mflagg19]

haha i was at one of these, in new haven

[GBJPhotoWorks]

We should stop calling it a solo over Indiscipline. It's Indiscipline. This is, basically, what he did throughout the original version. (and yes... his solos are awesome!)

[hihats]

I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I REPEAT!

[grandpascorpion]

The audio makes it tough to hear the subtlety

but it's a great solo nonetheless. Unfortunatley, the clip stops before the big climax. BTW, I saw him do this in Long Island a couple of months ago. It was beautiful.

[khalithistle]

bruford is one of the best soloists out there. one of the few drummers whose solos dont turn into a bland, brainless regurgitation of chops within a few bars

[thyunb]

Boring and constipating

[divinegrinder]

get with the program ya goofy bastard. these are polyrythms at their finest. try listening to something different for a change.

[bf1973]

nice. that was a great kc album, discipline