Responding to Bart Ehrman's New Testament Forgery Theory (John Warwick Montgomery)

[batmanrules1014]

"I've met a bunch of fisherman... and they're not illiterate, ahahah" Oh really? You've met a bunch of first century peasants?

[CJFCarlsson]

@batmanrules1014 It is really true. If you were a first century fisherman it was impossible for you to learn how to write.

Come on. Allmost anyone can learn how to write if they have the motivation. It is Ehrman who is off.

[batmanrules1014]

@CJFCarlsson You're right that its not "impossible". I concede that. However, I think we should ask, "how likely is it?" Dr. Warwick referenced modern day fisherman, men who live in a civilization that is far wealthier than that of 1st century Judea. Peasant life in the 1st century was one of survival.

Literacy requires time. It would not be beneficial for a 1st century fisherman to learn to read and write beyond what would benefit him at the market place.

[ndjarnag]

@9:19 Erhman makes a clear distinction in his book that the forgeries of the bible did not imply criminal activity. In other words, in that day and age it was not necessarily unlawful to write forgeries although the practice was frowned upon.

[CloverfieldMonster95]

Coldplay at the beginning lol

[stephjh2006]

What is the deal with Bart Ehrman? It's strange when you see such great shifts in perspectives; with Bart it seems to be a colossal swing. What was the cause? After all a lot of how you interpret and speculate etc is down to your world view, we all bring a presupposition. So what caused Bart to swing so drastically on his world view?

[aerycksmusic]

@stephjh2006 ~ I was listening to an interview with Mike Licona where he was discussing the fact that Bart had a view of the Christian sacred text which suffered some after studying textual criticism with Metzger. I know after I studied textual criticism I found it hard to maintain the sort of views that I had long heard from the pulpit. I'm happier now that I don't have to defend what was not meant to be defended that way, and actually enjoy reading my Bible more now. Peace, Eric.

[stephjh2006]

@aerycksmusic can you give an example? Sounds interesting.

[aerycksmusic]

@stephjh2006 ~ There's a video titled 'Bart Ehrman Answered - Introduction - Mike Licona' by @rfvidz There have been a few responses to Bart's book 'Forged', but I've found over the last two or three years that Ben Witherington ( watch 'Jesus, Canon and Theology' by @exposedatheists where Withering, Wallace and Bock ) or better still check out Ben's blog 'The Bible and Culture' where he did a nine page review of 'Forged'. Peace, Eric.

[DigitalDecadence]

@stephjh2006 I believe he held Biblical Inerrancy as a core doctrine, and in his college years he posed a question to one of his professors who simply replied saying that the author of the particle book in question, may simply have been mistaken, and this caused Ehrman's theological web to collapse, as he incorrectly held a very risky doctrine as a core doctrine, for no good reason.

I feel really bad for him, as it seems now, it's more a matter of pride, than it is of truth.

[doyoublush]

@stephjh2006 the problem of suffering, he wrote a book about it. the title is something like "god's problem". you should visit his website! ;-)

[lilrat489]

where do you get these videos from? thanks for the uploads