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  • Thank you for the warning people aren't hearing me say the same thing. Romney will be president in 2016 from what I'm seeing. Its very frieghtening how blind I think people are becoming and how much they truely don't like us christians. Its like Mt. Meadows never happened.

  • mormon church is a non christian cult.

  • Every Religion is a Cult. My church is not a CULT ! Mormonism is about real Christianity .

  • a cult is defined as "a particular system of religious worship, especially with reference to its rites and ceremonies." therefore pretty much every religion is a cult

  • @gouvinermorris EVERY religion claims to be the only true one.Jesus said 'many' would claim to have served him and he would say, "Get away from me you workers of lawlessness"=Matthew 7:21-23. There is a WAY the early disciples and apostles taught.This is the WAY that Jesus started. They went house to house, preaching that God's Kingdom is coming.There is ONE faith that is following the early disciples=Matthew 4:17,5:5, chapter 10, 24:14,28:19,20,Acts 1:8,5:42,20:20.They preach God's name=Jehovah

  • There is one church, one faith, one baptism,....that being said we are all sinners and none of us are perfect so what can we do but forgive and have mercy?

  • the lds church (mormons) is NOT a cult

  • @chadro85 Prove it or don't bother saying it. I say, the Mormons are in a vile cult that is one of the most heinous ever invented by an evil man, Smith. To take the word of some American sinner over the Word of God in the Bible is proof one that it is a CULT.

  • @EffieReal no its not. the real definition of a cult is somthing like "a SMALL group of people with a strange or sinister belief in there religon" now the "strange or sinister" part is more of your opinon the religon then a fact. (i don't think its strange nor sinister) but it is obivously its not "a small group of people" so there i proved its not a cult. (sorry that my spelling is not perfect)

  • @chadro85 "Something like a small group..." ??? You are looking up the wrong usage. Look at "cult" on dictionary dot kom and the only time the word "small" is used is when referring to the use of the word in regard to things that are not largely popular, as in a movie with a "cult" following. This is obviously not the definition of a "religious" cult. ie: CULT:a quasi-religious organization using devious psychological techniques to gain and control adherents. (ala LDS, JWs, Islam, etc)

  • @EffieReal well i've looked in two dictionarys and one website and all gave me the same definition. also you are wrong. the church does not try to "gain and control" us. people go to our church because they love it and know it is true.

  • @chadro85 "people go to our church because they love it and know it is true." Honey, I'm not trying to upset you here, but those are the words of someone who is under control. How do you "know it is true"? The LDS church teaches their members to repeat the mantra "I know it is true" over and over since childhood as part of their "testimony". This is a mind-control tactic. Facts: Joseph Smith was not a prophet, the Bible disagrees the the LDS beliefs, and you only "know" what THEY TELL YOU.

  • @EffieReal 1 mormons have somthing called "free agentsiy" that means the church does NOT control us. and we do go to our church because we love it. thats just somthing you don't understand. 2 there are many resons i know its true. but not enuff charaters. if you want to hear one of my reson ask me in the next comment. 3 joseph smith is a prophet. 4 lds most read the book of mormon. somtimes the bible but only some things. for resons you already said. 5 they tell me what gods tells me.

  • @chadro85 I know what you believe. I also know that history, archaeology, documentation, and observable behavior all go against Smith and his made up BOM. The facts are he wrote it, changed it 9 times and it doesn't stand up to research in the areas I mentioned like the Bible does. You only have the word of this one man as to the origins of his book and he changed his story SEVERAL times along with the BOM and his beliefs also changed over the years as he moved further away from the Bible.

  • @EffieReal Could you tell me where the bible came from?

  • @gtepp031387 Why?

  • @EffieReal Well it seems that your trying to disprove the BOM with the bible, both books claim they are inspired so we have to move on from there. In order to see one book over the other we have to look at other factors. One book was forged by the so called prophet Joseph Smith, and the other... well I was hoping you could tell me from a historical stand point?

  • @gtepp031387 Sort of. If you will notice my first comment on this video, I am also describing Mormonism as a cult from a Christian perspective. In other words, a cult that would claim to fit within orthodox Christianity (in front of certain audiences) in order to advance their agenda. Yet demonstrably diverges from the most basic beliefs in Christianity. The fact that the BOM does not agree with the Bible on key issues only matters to those who hold the Bible as an authority.

  • @EffieReal Ok well let's get more specific where and when was the first bible compiled and whom gave it it's authority, that is, from a historical viewpoint?

  • @EffieReal diverges from the most basic beliefs in Christianity.

    statements of the early Church Fathers: Clement of Alexandria AD 150-215 "yea, I say the Word of God became a man so that you might learn from a man how to become a god"Saint Irenaeus AD115-202: "There is none other called God by the Scriptures except the Father of all, and the Son, and those who possess the adoption"Even as late as Athanasius in the 4th century; "the Word was made flesh that we may be made gods"MormornBeliefs???

  • @jferristube Clement of Alexandria and Irenaeus where both fiully Catholic...and they are talking about being one with and in GOD as part of the body of Christ....They did not believe GOD was once a man, nor that we will be gods on different planets and every planet has a god and that Jesus is now a god on a different planet...that is made up poppycock...they believed Jesus sits and still sits at the right hand of the father, being the (LOGOS)of GOD. The fathers are not with you.

  • @gtepp031387 Clement of Alexandria and Irenaeus where both fiully Catholic

    So they werent christian at all?They were "Catholic"?

    Clement of Alexandria AD 150-215

    Saint Irenaeus AD115-202

    As you can see they both lived long b4 the Catholic Church was organised by Constantine

    In 380, Catholicism became the state religion of the Roman Empire by the decree of the Emperor

  • @jferristube "So they werent christian at all?They were "Catholic"?

    Christian is a name given to individuals that was first used in Antioch meaning little christ, Catholic is the name given to the church of Christian again first used in Antioch meain universal or whole...."Wherever Jesus is there is the Catholic church" ~ St Ignatius of Antioch around 100 A.D.

  • @gtepp031387 Christian is a name given to individuals that was first used in Antioch meaning little christ

    The members of Christs church were never called christian in the Bible.They were called fellow citizens.More importantly they were called "saints"

    If it is to be christs church surely Christ would call His Church in his Name.Nothing or nobody elses name.Not the Church of Paul Peter James John or any other name of Idea or Descriptive.Simple

    If it be his church it Will be called in His name.

  • @jferristube "The members of Christs church were never called christian in the Bible.They were called fellow citizens.More importantly they were called "saints"

    Read the bible much???

    "at Antioch the disciples were first named Christians." Acts 11:26

  • @gtepp031387 church of Christian again first used in Antioch meain universal or whole

    Isnt it more important to use the name of Jesus Christ.

    Who gave the authority to change the name of christs church.

    I know jesus did not call his church the "Catholic" church

  • @jferristube In fact Jesus used the Hebrew and probley the greek word for "whole" or "complete" several times...Catholic comes from the Greek "kata" (concerning), and "holos" (whole)...interpilated into english the simpliest meaning is universal .

  • @jferristube "As you can see they both lived long b4 the Catholic Church was organised by Constantine"

    And the myth of Constantine grows everyday...lets put this one to bed shall we using oh how about Irenaues...the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions..cont..

  • @gtepp031387 .the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome

    There ya go bud

    Ya just said it.Organised at Rome.By the Holy Roman Empire to be Known as the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

    I thought Jesus Christ organised His Church with prophets and apostles in and around Jerusalem somewhere.When He yet still lived.I Guess I Must Have Been Wrong.The Romans organised it all.And what date was it organised again exactly GT ?LOL

    Wasnt Paul crucified in Rome?

  • @jferristube "Ya just said it.Organised at Rome.By the Holy Roman Empire to be Known as the Holy Roman Catholic Church."

    Smart one I just quoted you Irenaeus...say what year was he writting?(180 A.D)....Tell me how the emporer organized the Roman church when he was slaughtering them for then next 150 years?..think before posting...

    Paul was beheaded in Rome and Peter was crusified they oranized the church in Rome which "hath the presidency" ~ St Ignatius of Antioch 100 A.D.

  • @gtepp031387 And the myth of Constantine grows everyday

    How about tryin to put to bed the myth of 2,000 yrs of murder and plunder.The inquisition?How about that?LOL

    Ya cant cos its all fact bud

  • @jferristube "the very great, the very ancient, and universally known Church founded and organized at Rome by the two most glorious apostles, Peter and Paul; as also [by pointing out] the faith preached to men, which comes down to our time by means of the successions of the bishops. For it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church, on account of its preeminent authority" ~ St Irenaeus...humm sounds like some church orginazation???

  • @gtepp031387 they are talking about being one with and in GOD as part of the body of Christ

    No they are Not

    They are talking about learning to become Gods.

    What do you mean to become a part of the body of Christ?

    We know Christ was resurrected with a perfected glorified body of flesh n bone of His own.Are you saying we will somehow join into His body and become one with him as he is with the father as he mentioned many times?

  • @jferristube "What do you mean to become a part of the body of Christ?"

    Read the bible much bud? "Now you are the body of Christ, and members of member" 1 Corinthians 12:27 "For as the body is one, and hath many members; and all the members of the body, whereas they are many, yet are one body, so also is Christ" 1 Cor 12:12....you might want to just start at the begging of the chapter to see what the body is all about.

  • @gtepp031387 they believed Jesus sits and still sits at the right hand of the father,

    Yes thats true

    2 seperate personages.Christ being an heir to the father as He/Christ promises to all the faithful the same.To sit with Him as he did with the Father

  • @gtepp031387 nor that we will be gods

    Clement of Alexandria AD 150-215 "yea, I say the Word of God became a man so that you might learn from a man how to become a god"Jesus once asked Peter your first Pope.Whom do they say that I the SON of MAN Am?There ya go.Jesus said it himself.His father IS a Man.Not a mortal man but a glorified perfected immortal MAN.Simple

    Saint Irenaeus AD115-202: "Theres none other called God by Scripture except the Father of all, And the Son, and those who are adopted

  • @jferristube Again please do not use the fathers they are not with you.

    "the Catholic Church possesses one and the same faith throughout the whole world, as we have already said."

    Irenaeus,Against Heresies,1:10,3(A.D. 180)

  • @gtepp031387 "the Catholic Church possesses one and the same faith throughout the whole world

    I ll give you that.If you have the true gospel that shud be the case.

  • @jferristube "We have also as a Physician the Lord OUR GOD Jesus the Christ the only-begotten Son and Word, before time began, but who afterwards became also man, of Mary the virgin.... He became subject to corruption, that He might free our souls from death and corruption, and heal them, and might restore them to health, when they were diseased with ungodliness and wicked lusts." ~ St Ignatius of Antioch letter to the Ephesians, chaper 7 around 100 A.D.

  • @jferristube correction in last post: "being the word(LOGOS) of GOD"...He is GOD from GOD like a flame that inkindles another, it is not dimished but stays as it was, thus it is like with the divinity of the father, son, and spirit.

  • @gtepp031387 correction in last post: "being the word(LOGOS) of GOD"...He is GOD from GOD like a flame that inkindles another

    He Is God FROM God.Sounds like a very confusing cultish concept to me and not biblical.I say you are the one twisting scripture to fit a concept that was introduced 4oo yrs aftr the biblical time frame.

  • @EffieReal

    it is lds belief that we may become and are in fact commanded by Christ to become Perfect even as our Father in Heaven is perfect.We can become as He is.That is the core belief n teaching of LDS.It is what we strive for and is one of the main reasons we are considered an Occult and unChristian.

    When he returns we will see Him as he IS.

  • @jferristube If you mean to take that scripture and twist it to mean become "a god" like Christ (who, btw, is Himself not "a god" but THE GOD) then you are just forcing a cult belief into a verse that really doesn't accommodate it.

  • @EffieReal Christ (who, btw, is Himself not "a god" but THE GOD

    So your saying Christ is THE God?

    So Where does the Father fit into your picture?

  • @jferristube "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an ANGEL FROM HEAVEN, preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed" (Galatians 1:6-8) Mormonism calls it self "another" gospel brought by a supposed "angel". It is accursed. 2/2

  • @EffieReal

    your the one who believes in Anathiasis' trinitarian concept not me.

  • @jferristube I believe in the God of the Bible, not you. I do not believe in Joseph Smith. He was an evil cult creator who is likely in Hell. Sorry, but it's the case.

  • @EffieReal I believe in the God of the Bible, not you. I do not believe in Joseph Smith. He was an evil cult creator who is likely in Hell. Sorry, but it's the case. 

    Got any proof of that?

    Which of all the christian? denominations claiming to have the gospel teaches the truth.Yours?Catholics?Baptist?­Church of England?KKK? Which has the authority of christ?Who teaches the pure gospel of Christ?Your Church?Your all teaching diffrent gospels.

  • who are you to tell me i dont believe in the god of the Bible.

    Your belief is based purely on your Interpretation of scripture.How do you know you have the correct version/interpretation. Why is the christian world so divided all teachn diffrent gospels?

    Its Called APOSTACY.And it began even while the apostles walkd the earth.2,000 yrs latr ya think ther hasnt been diffrent ,so called christian sects enter the fold to destroy as Christ and the Apostles preached and gave ther lives for?

  • @jferristube "The truth is to be found nowhere else but in the Catholic Church, the sole depository of apostolical doctrine. Heresies are of recent formation, and cannot trace their origin up to the apostles." ~ St Irenaeus Adversus Haereses, Book III, chapter 4 Prologue ....again the fathers are not with you please do not use them to defend your ridiculus personal interpritations.

  • @gtepp031387 Thats what they said.Man Learning to be gods.Your Saints Not mine.As plain as the nose on your face.It was Constantine 300 AD who changed original doctrines of Christ to fit his paganism.Bowing and praying to idols one of the most obvious apostate teachings.Praying to Mary another.I use the BIBLE to show truth.I'll say it again,Your earliest catholic fathers preachd, believd nd understood the concept of becomn gods.Constantine changed it.The reason he'd do that also very obvious

  • @gtepp031387 Heresies are of recent formation, and cannot trace their origin up to the apostles.

    Oh you mean heresies like worshipping bowing down to and praying to idols.1 example.Praying to Mary?Calling Christ down from Heaven to suffer sor sins everytime a priest performs the sacrament?Those heresies?

    Almost 2,000 yrs of murder and plunder.The Inquisition etcetcetc.The cover up of paediofilia and homosexuality from the leadership of Catholicism?That what you mean?

    Thats Fact not intrpretation

  • @jferristube "Oh you mean heresies like worshipping bowing down to and praying to idols."

    Sry but we Worship GOD alone and we have no Idols...we pray to the holy body of Christ yes, but we understand that no one not even Mary the immaculate can do anything without Christ, but as part of the body, one with and in him(John 17:20-26) they can interceed for us.

  • @jferristube "Almost 2,000 yrs of murder and plunder."

    Actually I was thinking more like 2,000 years of the worlds most charitable organization...sure there have been bad people in the church, but if we are to be judged on the bad apples in our gatherings...well then niether of us is doing so good.

  • @gtepp031387 The truth is to be found nowhere else but in the Catholic Church, the sole depository of apostolical doctrine

    Ill give you that

    Either catholics have Authority and the LDS do not or LDS have the authority and catholics do not.Rest of christianity have not a leg to stand on as they all broke off from your church

    Either there was continued unbroken line of authority as your church claims.Or their was an apostacy as prophesied by Christ and His apostles therfor also the restoration

  • @jferristube "There is also circulated one to the Laodiceans and another to the Alexandrians, forged under the name of Paul, in regard to the heresy of Marcion; and there are several others which cannot be received by the Church, for it is not suitable that gall be mixed with honey. The Epistle of Jude, indeed, and the two ascribed to John, are received by the Catholic Church." ~ St Irenaeus

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  • @EffieReal

    We dont have another gospel other than what Christ taught.

    It is Christianity and all its differing sects creeds beliefs and contradictory interpretation of the original gospel that has it wrong..

    Yur quote is Paul speaking to saints During his ministry.Apostacy had already started while the apostles still walked.Apostles prophesied apostacy.John foretold of an angel flying in the midst of heaven bringing the Everlasting Gospel to preach to the inhabitants of the earth.Restoration!

  • @jferristube Paul was not defending the false "prophet" Joseph Smith.

  • @EffieReal

    LDS do not teach anything against bible teachings

  • @jferristube You are being intentionally blind. There is no greater blindness. To actually say "LDS do not teach anything against bible teachings" is completely utterly false. You can watch the videos of Shawn alone to get dozens of examples. You choose to believe a cult created by an American who can be investigated and proven false. The man, Smith, was a dishonest and twisted individual. Bigot. Polygamist. Cult starter. No, LDS is not Biblical.

  • @EffieReal LDS do not teach anything against bible teachings" is completely utterly false.

    Give me one example of lds teachings that goes against the bible

  • @jferristube Why bother? You don't care about the facts. But, here's some. 1. The Bible teaches there was no God before God and none after Him (Isa. 43:10). The cult of Joseph Smith teaches many multiple gods begetting gods. 2. The Bible teaches Jesus is born of a virgin. The cult of Joseph Smith teaches physical sex occurred. 3. The Bible teaches we are not married or given in marriage in Heaven nor male or female. The cult teaches marriage and sex are perpetual.

  • @EffieReal

    I agree.To us ther is but One god for us.No others.Scripture says ther are gds many and lords many but to us ther is but One God and One Lord who God sent.Jesus is a God.Jesus' Father is also a god.

    Gods begetting gods?Wasnt Jesus Begotten of God the Father.There ya go.Christ came into the world exactly the same way as any other man all be it His Father was God the Father.Yes Mary was a Virgin.Agree.

  • LDS agree with the Bible. Ther is No marriage given in Heaven.Just like Baptism it has to be done in this life.If we dont get married under gods authority in this life we will not get married in the next.But if we marry with gods authority in this life that marriage continues into the next.Simple.

    So we agree with the bible there also.No Marriage in Heaven.Only here in this life.

    Nor male or female???Wasnt Christ resurrected as a Male?Nevr to die again.The same promise for male n female alike?

  • @jferristube 4. The Bible teaches NO pre-earth existence. The Cult of Joseph Smith teaches we were spirit children from a procreating "god" and one of his many "spirit wives". 5. The Bible teaches God always was and is not a man. The cult of Joseph Smith teaches "heavenly father" is an exulted man who resides on a planet near "Kolob". (Wow!) 5. The Bible teaches Christ will return on the Mount of Olives. The cult of Joseph Smith teaches Christ will return in Missouri. That's only a few of them.

  • @EffieReal the bible does teach a pre existence wher we all lived as Gods spirit children b4 this life.Scripture says god breathed into his physical body Adams spirit didnt he?The same for all of us.And when we all die our spirit returns to god who gave it.Simple.Many scriptures speak of a pre existence.You make it sound like it is impossible for god to pro create yet how did Jesus come about.Jesus is the Only Begotten(pro creation between God the Father n Mary) of the Father isnt He?

  • @EffieReal

    NO.God does not have "Spirit" wives?You have that all wrong.

    Procreating?God cant procreate?Why cant He do that?Doesnt have the power?

    Is Jesus God?Was His crucified mortal body Not resurrected?Does He not still have that very same body today.The same glorified perfected immortal body of flesh n bone he showed the apostles and many saints aftr His resurrection?Did Jesus not say He was in the express image and likeness of His Father?They both are Gods.Father AND Son Effie.

    Simple.

  • @jferristube So you are attempting to argue polytheism against Biblical Christianity. No, Biblically there are not many "gods". God is one. Duet. 6:4. There is NO other God Isaiah 45:18 and James: 2:19. Jesus claimed to be the same ONE God Rev. 1:8. The Triune ONE God is represented in the entire Bible as Father, Son and Holy Spirit. John 15:26, Matthew 28:19.

  • @jferristube “I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, there am I; and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.” Isaiah 48:16 This is God speaking, yet God is being sent by the Lord God and (being sent by) His Spirit. All three members of the Trinity Son, Father, and Spirit represented as sentient members of the One Triune Godhead.

  • @jferristube Then...“But when the Comforter is come whom I will send unto you from the Father, He shall testify of me.” John 15:26 . We see again the same three persons represented only this time it is the Holy Spirit being sent from the Father to testify of the Son. The Bible CLEARLY states there is ONE God. The Bible CLEARLY states there are three persons that are calls God. The Bible is correct. Simple.

  • Christ will at His 2nd coming, come to the Mt of Olives.The Jewish Nation will be facing annihilation.The whole world will be united against them to destroy and Christ will come in great power and glory to save them from that fate.The Jews will then come to know (as will all mankind) that He IS the Christ who Did come in the meridian of time.You people twist everything Joseph ever said.And it is you who are not interested in truth.

    The New Jerusalem will be established in Missouri.

  • @EffieReal

    you know when ya tell half truths and give info that is False:O) thats how lies are spread and peoples reputations are destroyed and what they Actually say is the opposite to what the misinformed end up believing.Ya know what I mean?Ya need to Get your facts about what joseph said from His writings not from bigots and lds haters who lie in wait to Deceive and who are Not interested in any truth :o).

  • @jferristube Son of man....lol dude that is the title given to him in prophetic sence, yes he was born of flesh and thus takes the title son of man, and man was made in the image of GOD so I suppose you could try to say GOD might look like a man, but he was never mortal or a sinner like us,big difference! And we may become part of the body of Christ and one with and in him even given the glory of Christ(John 17:20-26) but we will never posses the fullness of the divinity individualy

  • @gtepp031387 Son of man....lol dude that is the title given to him in prophetic sence,

    He was Not speaking prophetically.He was asking Peter what people were calling Him.Saying of Him.Asking of Peter what people were saying.AND he was referring to Himself as the Son Of Man.

    Sorry God does look like a man.Is Jesus Christ God just like His Father is God to whom Jesus Prayed to? Spoke of? Acknowledged and gave all power and glory to?YES

  • @gtepp031387 but we will never posses the fullness of the divinity individualy

    But well possess divinity Collectively???

    Christ commanded us to become perfect even as He and His Father in Heaven are perfect.

    Christ TODAY has a glorified perfected immortal body of flesh and bone. He is in the express Image of His Father as he often proclaimed.They are 2 seperate individuals.

    I dont use Your fathers.I quoted what they said as proof early saints and your fathers knew and accepted as truth.

  • @jferristube "They are 2 seperate individuals."

    The father is not the son and the son is not the father if that is what youy mean, but they are one in essence..."In Christ Jesus is the fullness of the divinity"

  • @gtepp031387 yes he was born of flesh and thus takes the title son of man

    But He was born of God the Father who is a Man.A Glorified perfected immortal man.And his mother was Mary.

    He gained immortality from His Father and his Mortality form Mary

  • @EffieReal If you mean to take that scripture and twist it to mean become "a god" like Christ

    I dont assume to Twist a single thing

    Thats Exactly what Christ and the Bible teaches.Plain simple truth

  • @gtepp031387 As for the differences between the two (BOM and Bible) I would find myself repeating: history, archaeology, supportive documentation, and observable behavior, etc. favor the Bible over the BOM exponentially. To disagree with one or more item still leaves one with a quagmire of thousands of evidences supporting the Bible. Not room in a youtube comment to list them. :) . I would suggest pick a category and start researching both tomes, eg. archaeological or historical accuracy.

  • @gtepp031387, it is a historic fact ( im taking european history ) That during the counter reformation, a council of trent was held to choose scripture. It was stated that they changed many of their ideas simply to gain protestants back into the church. So it was slowly reformed, if we compare the italian and latin american churches to the churches in the U.S. Your problem is that you attack more and you show little biblical evidence, why im I a heretic when we both believe in almost the same th

  • @gtepp031387, the rock is not peter its the faith in christ. The foundation of the christian church( people) is the faith in him because its what christianity is all about. Understand? And besides if the catholic church really is Gods church, and you so say that the gates of hell shall not prevail it, then why was it reformed over time. Remember that the only church that stayed the same was the orthodox church, what they do they is what they have been doing since the time they started.

  • @MrUncleruckus1 The rock is Peter, the confession, and Christ, you will find this teaching in the CCC...you can no more seperate Peter from his confession then you could the divinity and the humanity of Christ....The Orthodox reject many of the teachings of the fathers, and they reject the sucessore of Peter, the head of the temporal church....The council of Trent CONFIRMED scripture, it did not choose it, it had already been choosen at much earlier councils, Hippo comes to mind in 393 A.D.

  • Bait and Switch? So you think we switch the BOM and what we believe in it when we go into the temple or something? Like, okay now that we gotcha, through that crap out and we'll tell you the truth...um no, no switching going on, just more learning and more worshiping Christ. I understand it's wierd to you, but we aren't baiting anyone. Lots of members love the church but not the temple, and don't go! And that's fine! I use the' treadmill of being temple worthy' when I want to. I don't have to

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    Moroni 10:

    4 And when ye shall receive these things, I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost.

    5 And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things.

  • #105

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    […] Written by way of commandment, and also by way of prophecy and of revelation […]Which is to show unto the remnant of the House of Israel what great things the Lord hath done for their fathers; and that they may know the covenants of the Lord, that they are not cast off forever – And also to the convincing of the Jew and Gentile that JESUS is the CHRIST, the ETERNAL GOD, manifesting himself unto all nations.

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  • #104  Moroni 10:33 And again, if ye by the grace of God are perfect in Christ, and deny not his power, then are ye sanctified in Christ, by the grace of God, through the shedding of the blood of Christ, which is in the covenant of the Father unto the remission of your sins, that ye become holy, without spot.

  • #103

    Mormon 9:13 And because of the redemption of man, which came by Jesus Christ, they are brought back into the presence of the Lord; yea, this is wherein all men are redeemed, because the death of Christ bringeth to pass the resurrection [...] and they shall come forth, both small and great, and all shall stand before his bar, being redeemed and loosed from this eternal band of death, which death is a temporal death.

  • #102

    Alma 34:37 And now, my beloved brethren, I desire that ye should remember these things, and that ye should work out your salvation with fear before God, and that ye should no more deny the coming of Christ;

  • #101

    Moroni 7:47 But charity is the pure love of Christ, and it endureth forever; and whoso is found possessed of it at the last day, it shall be well with him.

    

  • #100

    Alma 31:31 O Lord, my heart is exceedingly sorrowful; wilt thou comfort my soul in Christ. O Lord, wilt thou grant unto me that I may have strength, that I may suffer with patience these afflictions which shall come upon me, because of the iniquity of this people.

  • #98

    Alma 25:16 Now they did not suppose that salvation came by the law of Moses; but the law of Moses did serve to strengthen their faith in Christ; and thus they did retain a hope through faith, unto eternal salvation, relying upon the spirit of prophecy, which spake of those things to come.

  • #97

    3 Nephi 26:5 If they be good, to the resurrection of everlasting life; and if they be evil, to the resurrection of damnation; being on a parallel, the one on the one hand and the other on the other hand, according to the mercy, and the justice, and the holiness which is in Christ, who was before the world began.

  • #96

    Helaman 8:22 Our father Lehi was driven out of Jerusalem because he testified of these things. Nephi also testified of these things, and also almost all of our fathers, even down to this time; yea, they have testified of the coming of Christ, and have looked forward, and have rejoiced in his day which is to come.

  • #95

    Alma 9:28 Therefore, prepare ye the way of the Lord, for the time is at hand that all men shall reap a reward of their works, according to that which they have been—if they have been righteous they shall reap the salvation of their souls, according to the power and deliverance of Jesus Christ; and if they have been evil they shall reap the damnation of their souls, according to the power and captivation of the devil.

  • #94

    Ether 12:41 And now, I would commend you to seek this Jesus of whom the prophets and apostles have written, that the grace of God the Father, and also the Lord Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost, which beareth record of them, may be and abide in you forever. Amen.

  • #93

    Alma 31:38 And the Lord provided for them that they should hunger not, neither should they thirst; yea, and he also gave them strength, that they should suffer no manner of afflictions, save it were swallowed up in the joy of Christ. Now this was according to the prayer of Alma; and this because he prayed in faith.

  • #92

    2 Nephi 26:8 But behold, the righteous that hearken unto the words of the prophets, and destroy them not, but look forward unto Christ with steadfastness for the signs which are given, notwithstanding all persecution—behold, they are they which shall not perish.

  • #91

    Mosiah 5:10 And now it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall not take upon him the name of Christ must be called by some other name; therefore, he findeth himself on the left hand of God.

  • #90

    Alma 5:38 Behold, I say unto you, that the good shepherd doth call you; yea, and in his own name he doth call you, which is the name of Christ; and if ye will not hearken unto the voice of the good shepherd, to the name by which ye are called, behold, ye are not the sheep of the good shepherd.

  • #89-C

    Mosiah 3:

    12 But wo, wo unto him who knoweth that he rebelleth against God! For salvation cometh to none such except it be through repentance and faith on the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • #89-B

    Mosiah 3:

    10 And he shall rise the third day from the dead; and behold, he standeth to judge the world; and behold, all these things are done that a righteous judgment might come upon the children of men.

    11 For behold, and also his blood atoneth for the sins of those who have fallen by the transgression of Adam, who have died not knowing the will of God concerning them, or who have ignorantly sinned.

  • #88

    2 Nephi 25:23  For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do.

  • #87

    Alma 5:27 Have ye walked, keeping yourselves blameless before God? Could ye say, if ye were called to die at this time, within yourselves, that ye have been sufficiently humble? That your garments have been cleansed and made white through the blood of Christ, who will come to redeem his people from their sins?

  • #85

    Moroni 10:30 And again I would exhort you that ye would come unto Christ, and lay hold upon every good gift, and touch not the evil gift, nor the unclean thing.

  • #84

    3 Nephi 28:31 Therefore, great and marvelous works shall be wrought by them, before the great and coming day when all people must surely stand before the judgment-seat of Christ;

  • #83

    2 Nephi 32:6 Behold, this is the doctrine of Christ, and there will be no more doctrine given until after he shall manifest himself unto you in the flesh. And when he shall manifest himself unto you in the flesh, the things which he shall say unto you shall ye observe to do.

  • #82

    4 Nephi 1:36 And it came to pass that in this year there arose a people who were called the Nephites, and they were true believers in Christ

  • #81

    Helaman 16:4 For behold, Nephi was baptizing, and prophesying, and preaching, crying repentance unto the people, showing signs and wonders, working miracles among the people, that they might know that the Christ must shortly come—

  • #80

    3 Nephi 7:16 Therefore, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts and the blindness of their minds—went forth among them in that same year, and began to testify, boldly, repentance and remission of sins through faith on the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • #79 

    Ether 12:22 And it is by faith that my fathers have obtained the promise that these things should come unto their brethren through the Gentiles; therefore the Lord hath commanded me, yea, even Jesus Christ.

  • #78

    Alma 15:10 And then Alma cried unto the Lord, saying: O Lord our God, have mercy on this man, and heal him according to his faith which is in Christ.

  • #77

    2 Nephi 26:1 And after Christ shall have risen from the dead he shall show himself unto you, my children, and my beloved brethren; and the words which he shall speak unto you shall be the law which ye shall do.

  • #76 

    Words of Mormon 1:8

    And my prayer to God is concerning my brethren, that they may once again come to the knowledge of God, yea, the redemption of Christ; that they may once again be a delightsome people.

  • #75

    3 Nephi 5:13 Behold, I am a disciple of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. I have been called of him to declare his word among his people, that they might have everlasting life.

  • #74

    Moroni 2:3 Now Christ spake these words unto them at the time of his first appearing; and the multitude heard it not, but the disciples heard it; and on as many as they laid their hands, fell the Holy Ghost.

  • #73

    Helaman 14:12 And also that ye might know of the coming of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Father of heaven and of earth, the Creator of all things from the beginning; and that ye might know of the signs of his coming, to the intent that ye might believe on his name.

  • #72

    3 Nephi 28:40 And in this state they were to remain until the judgment day of Christ; and at that day they were to receive a greater change, and to be received into the kingdom of the Father to go no more out, but to dwell with God eternally in the heavens.

  • #71

    Alma 46:39 And it came to pass that there were many who died, firmly believing that their souls were redeemed by the Lord Jesus Christ; thus they went out of the world rejoicing.

  • #70

    Mormon 5:14 [...] that they may be persuaded that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God; that the Father may bring about, through his most Beloved, his great and eternal purpose [...]

  • #69

    2 Nephi 11:6 And my soul delighteth in proving unto my people that save Christ should come all men must perish.

  • #68

    Alma 22:13 […] the plan of redemption, which was prepared from the foundation of the world, through Christ, for all whosoever would believe on his name.

    14 And since man had fallen he could not merit anything of himself; but the sufferings and death of Christ atone for their sins,

  • #67

    Mormon 8:35 Behold, I speak unto you as if ye were present, and yet ye are not. But behold, Jesus Christ hath shown you unto me, and I know your doing.

  • #66

    Moroni 7:23 And God also declared unto prophets, by his own mouth, that Christ should come.

  • #65

    3 Nephi 11:25 Having authority given me of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

  • #64

    Mormon 9:

    1 And now, I speak also concerning those who do not believe in Christ.

    2 Behold, will ye believe in the day of your visitation—behold, when the Lord shall come, yea, even that great day when the earth shall be rolled together as a scroll, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, yea, in that great day when ye shall be brought to stand before the Lamb of God—then will ye say that there is no God?

  • #63

    Alma 4:14 […] thus retaining a remission of their sins; being filled with great joy because of the resurrection of the dead, according to the will and power and deliverance of Jesus Christ from the bands of death.

  • #62

    Mosiah 4: 2 […] O have mercy, and apply the atoning blood of Christ that we may receive forgiveness of our sins, and our hearts may be purified; for we believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who created heaven and earth, and all things; who shall come down among the children of men.

  • #61

    Moroni 3:

    2 After they had prayed unto the Father in the name of Christ, they laid their hands upon them, and said:

    3 In the name of Jesus Christ I ordain you to be a priest (or if he be a teacher, I ordain you to be a teacher) to preach repentance and remission of sins through Jesus Christ, by the endurance of faith on his name to the end. Amen.

  • #60

    2 Nephi 31:20 Wherefore, ye must press forward with a steadfastness in Christ, having a perfect brightness of hope, and a love of God and of all men. Wherefore, if ye shall press forward, feasting upon the word of Christ, and endure to the end, behold, thus saith the Father: Ye shall have eternal life.

  • #59

    Alma 27:

    27 [...] the people who were of the church of God. And they were also distinguished for their zeal towards God, and also towards men; for they were perfectly honest and upright in all things; and they were firm in the faith of Christ, even unto the end.

    28 [...] and they never did look upon death with any degree of terror, for their hope and views of Christ and the resurrection; therefore, death was swallowed up to them by the victory of Christ over it.

  • #58

    Moroni 9:25 My son, be faithful in Christ; and may not the things which I have written grieve thee, to weigh thee down unto death; but may Christ lift thee up, and may his sufferings and death, and the showing his body unto our fathers, and his mercy and long-suffering, and the hope of his glory and of eternal life, rest in your mind forever.

  • #57

    2 Nephi 33:7 I have charity for my people, and great faith in Christ that I shall meet many souls spotless at his judgment-seat.

  • #56

    Mormon 3:22 And I would that I could persuade all ye ends of the earth to repent and prepare to stand before the judgment-seat of Christ.

  • #55

    Moroni 7:

    24 [...] and all things which are good cometh of Christ; otherwise men were fallen, and there could no good thing come unto them.

    25 Wherefore, by the ministering of angels, and by every word which proceeded forth out of the mouth of God, men began to exercise faith in Christ; and thus by faith, they did lay hold upon every good thing; and thus it was until the coming of Christ.

  • #54

    3 Nephi 28:23 And it came to pass that thus they did go forth among all the people of Nephi, and did preach the gospel of Christ unto all people upon the face of the land; and they were converted unto the Lord, and were united unto the church of Christ, and thus the people of that generation were blessed, according to the word of Jesus.

  • #53

    Ether 4:8 And he that will contend against the word of the Lord, let him be accursed; and he that shall deny these things, let him be accursed; for unto them will I show no greater things, saith Jesus Christ; for I am he who speaketh.

  • #52

    Alma 11:42 Now, there is a death which is called a temporal death; and the death of Christ shall loose the bands of this temporal death, that all shall be raised from this temporal death.

  • #51

    Moroni 6:4 And after they had been received unto baptism, and were wrought upon and cleansed by the power of the Holy Ghost, they were numbered among the people of the church of Christ; and their names were taken, that they might be remembered and nourished by the good word of God, to keep them in the right way, to keep them continually watchful unto prayer, relying alone upon the merits of Christ, who was the author and the finisher of their faith.

  • #50

    Jacob 6:9 Know ye not that if ye will do these things, that the power of the redemption and the resurrection, which is in Christ, will bring you to stand with shame and awful guilt before the bar of God?

  • #49

    Jacob 6:8 Behold, will ye reject these words? Will ye reject the words of the prophets; and will ye reject all the words which have been spoken concerning Christ, after so many have spoken concerning him; and deny the good word of Christ, and the power of God, and the gift of the Holy Ghost, and quench the Holy Spirit, and make a mock of the great plan of redemption, which hath been laid for you?

  • #48

    Alma 37:33 Preach unto them repentance, and faith on the Lord Jesus Christ; teach them to humble themselves and to be meek and lowly in heart; teach them to withstand every temptation of the devil, with their faith on the Lord Jesus Christ.

  • #47

    Moroni 7:

    18 And now, my brethren, seeing that ye know the light by which ye may judge, which light is the light of Christ, see that ye do not judge wrongfully; for with that same judgment which ye judge ye shall also be judged.

    19 Wherefore, I beseech of you, brethren, that ye should search diligently in the light of Christ that ye may know good from evil; and if ye will lay hold upon every good thing, and condemn it not, ye certainly will be a child of Christ.

  • #46

    Mosiah 16:

    6 And now if Christ had not come into the world, speaking of things to come as though they had already come, there could have been no redemption.

    7 And if Christ had not risen from the dead, or have broken the bands of death that the grave should have no victory, and that death should have no sting, there could have been no resurrection.

    8 But there is a resurrection, therefore the grave hath no victory, and the sting of death is swallowed up in Christ.

  • #45

    Moroni 7:22 For behold, God knowing all things, being from everlasting to everlasting, behold, he sent angels to minister unto the children of men, to make manifest concerning the coming of Christ; and in Christ there should come every good thing.

  • #44

    Helaman 3: 28 Yea, thus we see that the gate of heaven is open unto all, even to those who will believe on the name of Jesus Christ, who is the Son of God.

  • #43

    Alma 21:9 Now Aaron began to open the scriptures unto them concerning the coming of Christ, and also concerning the resurrection of the dead, and that there could be no redemption for mankind save it were through the death and sufferings of Christ, and the atonement of his blood.

  • #42

    3 Nephi 29:5 Wo unto him that spurneth at the doings of the Lord; yea, wo unto him that shall deny the Christ and his works!

  • #41

    Mormon 9:37 And may the Lord Jesus Christ grant that their prayers may be answered according to their faith; and may God the Father remember the covenant which he hath made with the house of Israel; and may he bless them forever, through faith on the name of Jesus Christ. Amen.

  • #40

    Alma 34:6 And ye also beheld that my brother has proved unto you, in many instances, that the word is in Christ unto salvation.

  • #39

    Mormon 5:

    16 For behold, the Spirit of the Lord hath already ceased to strive with their fathers; and they are without Christ and God in the world; and they are driven about as chaff before the wind. 17 They were once a delightsome people, and they had Christ for their shepherd; yea, they were led even by God the Father.

  • #38

    3 Nephi 10:15 Behold, I say unto you, Yea, many have testified of these things at the coming of Christ, and were slain because they testified of these things.

  • #37

    Moroni 1:3 And I, Moroni, will not deny the Christ; wherefore, I wander whithersoever I can for the safety of mine own life.

  • #36

    2 Nephi 33:11 And if they are not the words of Christ, judge ye—for Christ will show unto you, with power and great glory, that they are his words, at the last day; and you and I shall stand face to face before his bar; and ye shall know that I have been commanded of him to write these things, notwithstanding my weakness.

  • #35

    2 Nephi 33:10 [...] hearken unto these words and believe in Christ; and if ye believe not in these words believe in Christ. And if ye shall believe in Christ ye will believe in these words, for they are the words of Christ, and he hath given them unto me; and they teach all men that they should do good.