the photo on the fridge is of their first proper kiss... now is it just me or was there no one in the room to take that picture?? ahh never mind, still sweet, I LOVE CHROLLI
OK, here's the deal. Both need therapy STAT. Olli needs to deal with his perfectionism, control issues, and insecurity. Christian needs sexual identity counseling and to learn how to express his feelings (typical of adult children of addicts) and STOP PLAYING THE VICTIM. Olli, one of the first rules of gaydom is never fall for someone you bring out: you two had no more business buying a vacuum cleaner attachment together, much less deciding you are in love. Otherwise, great acting!
Hold the phone. Christian "hopped into bed with Jessica"?
Someone clear this up for me, please. She got them super drunk, she purposely snapped SEEMINGLY provocative photos of them together, they fell asleep, somehow naked, ON A COUCH IN THE BAR. Also, Andi was there the whole time. Do we really even know what really happened? It could have just been Jessica-bitch getting them drunk and making them THINK something happened.
@DanWCloud erh i think it's precisely that she was making things up o.o I mean drunk like that, i cannot even make a move on a dead cat, and here is a person. So their issue is Olli needs to control his fear and takes the risk, and Christian needs to stop all the explosions and gives more to have his partner knows his feelings for him.
Christian is not straight. He is a bit more toward the straight side of being bisexual. I don't like him anymore because he is so selfish and such a bastard. Olli deserves a better lover. Anyway, the past Chrolli is always in my heart no matter what happens. The past Chrolli is the best thing that happened to me.
I've been so thrilled with the entire Chrolli story becasue it was so real up untiol this point. This packing things up and moving things out and saying yes I still want you but no was realistic up to a point but it has now stretched the line of credibility. At this point Christian has tried to re-connect to Olli but it's Olli who has to stop this dangerous behaivior!
Youtube is doing weird things on my watchlist. They shown like eight videos I have seen, and then put this one and a couple more mixed with more recent videos. And it took me half the video to realize that I had already seen this. Is anybody else having this kind of situation?
this shall pass, and in the right time and in the right place it will end up as ChrOlli. Love conquers all. For the meantime let them know how important one from the other...they have been bonded by marriage, not they have to be bonded by what we call unconditional love...♥♥ChrOlli forever!
Seem like many viewers think Olli has gone too far, so is faithfulness not important to you guys? Seem like VL writer had used the blackout way (a more acceptable way than show us a sober Christian get intimate with Jessica) to tell us Chris had actually cheated on Olli. Now Christian should realise the seriousness of his behaviour & how much Olli is hurt. If afterall this "action" from Olli, Chris still can't learn the lesson or end up with someone else, then who need a husband like this?
@maxxliu Oh my god. Finally someone i can agree with. I was a little apprehensive to disclose my personal opinion with the account that everybody blames olli for his marriage problem, when in fact Christian was the one that cheated. Instead of people seeing how hurt Olli is they feeling sorry for Christian, the adulterous.
@jessica042391 I agree. Up until this point in the story I have loved them both equally and was able to see both sides. This time I can't do it. At the very least a person should be able to believe that their partner finds them sexually attractive. How could a person keep taking these hits from Christian making out with women with his self esteem intact or any trust in him. Christian is an adulterer and he has hurt Ollie in the same manner multiple times.
:-( Christian looked and sounded so hopeful when Olli waled into the stables then so crushed. And Olli you silly silly boy you are falling apart because you LOVE him, removing him from your life is not going to make the pain go away...
Rather perplexed here. This is a soap: these are fictional characters. The writers made clear for months that they were hell-bent on putting an end to Chrolli. And that's what they did. I don't look at spoilers, and we don't discuss them here. But: why are we still watching? Chrolli are history, as the writers scream at us in every episode. Is the idea that we need to shift our attention to other characters? I'm afraid I watched VL solely because of Chrolli. I am not interested in the others...
What is happening here? Why do we have this drama? Olli , first of all, though you knew Christian was straight, you loved him... though you knew you could not get him, you lived a life for him... and Christian gave up everything in his life but had only the hope that you would live with him... now why do you pull such a trigger.... if you think, coming across of Christian's things remind about him... its what all meant... everyone reconciliates in the world like that... pls dont do this
Although Olli said 'No' to Christian's question about this being the end of their relationship - I see it as a move in that direction, so sad! Olli crying at the end....got me all teary-eyed. The 'time out episode' and this one - very little Chrolli screentime - such a pity as these are very important progressions in this SL - hope we get more Chrolli screen time soon! ~ TEAM CHROLLI, CHROLLI FOREVER!!!
Danke May!! :) - Olli with Christian's scarf at the start was so sweet, but so heart-breaking too - so much angst!! The focus is on Olli at the moment and how he is dealing with the 'time out' - hope we get to see things from Christian's perspective soon - I think its finally hit him how serious things are! Olli gettting rid of Christian's stuff, just like Christian did with Lilly's - trying to move on.... Christian looked so happy to see Olli at the end... :'( - then came the shock!! ...
WHAT? Olli should move out instead of throwing everything out of the apartment. Next time he should try kill Christian or bury him alive (like Olivia) so that he can think.
Judith, where the hell are you?! If anyone knows these two, it's you! Can you please please PLEASE come back and knock some sense into them? Because if you were in that apartment with Olli, you would totally tell him he was taking Rebecca's advice the wrong way. C'mon WE'RE DYING HERE!!!
(cont) The whole reason why their seperarated is because they're so hurt they absolutley refuse to be in the same room with each other. Someone has to forcefully bring these two together and lock 'em up! >.<
I would seriously break into the apartment and make sure Christian and Olli both show up at the same time. Then i'd be like: *looks at Olli* "You're not leaving. Shut up." *looks at Christian* "You think you're going anywhere, buddy, you're insane. Now, you two will listen to me...no, shut up! Listen. To. Me. You two are going to go in there," *points to their room* "I will lock the door behind you two and you will TALK. And when you come out, you two better be happy and in love again. Okay?" :D
look, i know this is such a bitchy thing to say but, here goes nothing hehe: GO fucking cry ollie, you made ur decision stick with it, u permeantly were pushing christian into things, the adoption, the marraige, always deciding what u wanted and makeing him go along wit it, and lets face it, if i was stuck wit ollie, i think i'd neeed to cut loose too, instead of playing the feckin martyre he should have got drunk wit christian that way they would have been with each other, oh bad boy christian
Nooooo.... Not the smiley face bobble head!!! :-o On a more serious note, I know we're all for Team Chrolli, and while I think Christian deserved to be in the doghouse lately, Olli is starting to try my patience! It's as if Olli has gone down a path he's too "proud" ("orgueilleux" in French) to admit was the wrong one so he's carrying on with it. Ugh! (Oh, but thanks so much, May!)
How sad, where's my Kleenex box damn it!! I think Olli is right. You really do not know what you have until you almost or completely lose something dear to you. I think this will be a good wake-up call for Christian, and besides Christian and Olli have their own following, I do not think it will be long before they are back together-this is a show still driven by popularity and ratings. I do wonder if Christian is going to go too far with his boxing. A tragedy would have them make-up quick.
some randomness to lighten the mood....I LOLed at the picture of Mona Lisa on the fridge....take a closer look....although the pic on its left was highly distracting.....;)
@1991manali What's funny about the pic on the left was that was from the episode of their second kiss and nobody was in the room to even take that picture :P
Funny how all the Christian fans ALWAYS make EXCUSES for his behaviour!!!
If everytime Olli and Christian had a disagreement and Olli was the one that got drunk, kissed women and slept with a woman to punish Christian you would be BLAMING Olli but instead IT'S NEVER CHRISTIAN'S FAULT...yeah right....talk about a double standard!!!
Olli has every right to be hurt and disillusioned, Christian has broke his heart and destroyed his trust.......I feel so very sad for Olli.
I'm sure they'll be back together by the time of their wedding anniversary (August 27th,2011) that will be 1 year that they've been married.
So yes, this will be a painful couple of months, but we have to stick together and see the light at the end of the tunnel. All soap couples go through heartache and heartbreak of some kind or another before they reunite.
Chrolli will get back together. I will sit back and watch Jo and Thore's awesome acting talents until Chrolli are one again.
@jackmctn no, not 45, the make up sex after the whole Rob episode. Now THAT was HOT! It better be just as good as that time! (And i'll be crying with happiness of course) :)
Oh dear.. I think what Olli did is wrong! While a couple needs a break or distance when in a crisis, it is always a wrong move to move out from the house! NEVER! It usually makes matters worst. Yes the memories will linger but the freedom of being away usually tear the relationship apart. Mending a broken relationship is hard but couples need to be near each other and deal with being togetherness. If it didnt work out then be apart wd be next best thing. But be prepared fo a permanent break-up!!
I have to agree with Olli: it's hard to deal with your significant other's betrayal when everything around you reminds you of him. Not sure that packing all of Christian's things and sending them to him is the smartest of moves, but when you don't know what else to do, well, what other options are you left with but do something even if it's not the wisest of choices? Sigh.
@yournewsecretcrush I think he completely misunderstood her. And, excuse me, couldn't Jo even squeeze out one single tear? I feel his pain but only 'cause I've been there before.
ok i know it's soap land, but how's it even POSSIBLE that they have their "first time" kiss photo on the fridge :P who was the third party taking photos of them and why weren't we also invited? lol
Olli, I love you to death, but comeon' already, I know what Christian did was wrong, but he loves you and you love him, so please forgive him ok , please for both your sakes. This is breaking my heart
There is a total lack of communication between them. They must take time to talk. It is not being everyone's side they will get there. I wonder if Olli would have reacted the same way if Christian had kissed another man. Olli is afraid and that is understandable. But his attitude is a bit much for me.
Olli loves Christian, but there's no trust atm. Everytime they are near each other, he wants to be with him, but at the same time he thinks he'll cheat on him. Getting back together now would not be good for either of them.
Well it's obvious you still love him,Olli. But if you can't trust him,then you have to move on if you're not prepared to wipe the slate clean. All that moping behind the bar is not going to do wonders for your latte and mocha sales
As sad as this is, I thought the promo picture @3:07 of Olli and Christian (from the episode where they slept together for the first time) was hilarious, as if it was totally normal for them to have a photo of that intimate moment. Ummm...didn't they wonder who took the picture or how it was taken? Lol, or are they one of those couples with a camera fetish? Prob just some kind fanservice, but I still think it was funny.
@akanobouken That picture on the fridge was taken by Olivia! Remember she was there when the confrontation started that led to that kiss and the first time they had sex. She was hiding in Christian's bedroom to see how the confrontation played out, took the picture of their first real passionate kiss and tip toed out before they got down and dirty! ha! ;-)
my feelings are so mixed right now! i know that Olli is hurt but i can not stand them being like this. i understand that they need to work things out but i guess i am just an incredibly optimistic Chrolli fangirl; i just want them back together:(
I wish Olli would show his lonely, vulnerable side to Christian. Because as far as Christian is concerned, he only sees the angry side, not what Rebecca or what Dana saw in the last episode. Maybe he'd know that Olli doesn't want him gone forever.
Relationships are build on trust,if that trust is broken then its too hard to make it up. Its hard for Ollie to trust Christian again, its not the first incident where Christian has broken Ollie's trust, Ollie always forgave him . This time he is scared and hurt, fear of losing an important person in his life. They both need distance to think how much they mean to each other.
The only good thing to come out of this SL is all the people that I and many others have connected with from all around the world in the past week, (thanks again to dear May for making this possible) united in our despair, a kind soul even sent me 'hugz' from Panama. I have been so touched by all your support and the increasingly big cookie couch that I have emailed Das Erste/VL to let them know the scale of hurt and support out there for TEAM CHROLLI! Thank you everyone you have been awesomexx
There was a time when this would not have hurt Olli as deeply, but as he's getting older, he's changing in how he views his life. He wants a life partner, one who wants what he wants and is faithful. Christian and he were already moving apart after Lily left. This whole thing with Jessica just pushed them further apart and over the edge. They BOTH need space and time to figure out what they want for their future.
Ollie she should confront that woman and demand to absolutely did they actually have sex, a picture kissing does not prove, it, She was interested in Andi, and it could easily be that they did nothing. I wish Christian would say look I don't remember if I actually did anything ...
If anyone should have moved out of the flatshare, it should be Olli! That flatshare was Christian's home first, no matter that Olli's business is downstairs! Am I right? what do you think?
@sihlover2011 I am sitting right here my friend in grief. Maybe you can't see me because of that huge huge mountain of tissues right in front of me. Is it only me or is soapworld is a really nasty world this month. And what the hell is wrong with that writers?
Oh the good old times..Champagne for all, every day....and now? Cookies for Chrolli World. But: United we stand ...
well that's their opinion. I believe their love is real and strong, and if not, Chrolli wouldn't be here after THREE years! For those brave enough to stay, hang on tight because the Roller Coaster is just getting started! I brought all the ammunition again! (chocolates, cookies, hot chocolate, and tissues) so if anyone needs them go ahead :)
and May we know Olli has a great taste in men. First Christian ;D and now Jo Weil, who let me tell you, is not bad looking at all! ;D
@sihlover2011 "I believe their love is real and strong, and if not, Chrolli wouldn't be here after THREE years!"
AGREED! It's very rare that couples on soaps last as long as they have without breaking up constantly. They've made it through everything together and I think its obvious the writers want them together. They just have to throw this SL in to mix things up a bit and also drive the fans crazy.
Ok Olli you are the first one to put down therapy. Now you're really acting like someone in desperate need of it. The feeling of being alone and or w/o Christian isn't going to go away because you move his stuff out. You've totally lost the focus on what this is all about. Jo and Thore - great actors! Thanks, May!!
There are many mistakes and issues and flaws that need to be resolve before bringing the couple back together. And this is going to take long, yes it sucks, but I'm happy that both Jo and Thore are doing a superb job! :)
Both Olli and Christian need to realize their mistakes, where they went wrong and take the first step. Meanwhile all this hurt and confusion is gonna keep going. If many fans feel like giving up and say let them be apart and blah blah blah (con.)
I love how some of us, Chrolli fans, try to bring the mood up just a little and when we do it. It's all gone by the next sad episode! Wake up everyone one! After a shitty cheating SL, thanks VL since we know you can do better than that!, it's not easy to bring a couple back on track. So just because it's Chrolli it doesn't mean they'll get a pink color reconciliation within a week! It takes TIME! Here we go with the team Olli and then team Chrsitian, but me (con.)
@krose1973 I agree with what you said. Just wish VL had not used the tired adultery SL (which personally I do see as just implied, being as they wrote Christian having a blackout vs a clear memory ) Besides obviously hoping that Chrolli reunite, I also hope the Christian/women issue is resolved one way or the other and we find out the truth about the drunken night (for Chrolli's sake and for ours!).
@ deepdarkmidnight - It has been a fine chance to watch the guys act their hearts out :-).
I don't think I can stand this. If they break up, there's no need for me to watch. I loved the positive / "pro-couple" message I was getting from this but if that message is gone then so am I.
I really don't know why everyone is so surprised that the VL writers have written a break in Chrolli's relationship. This is a soap opera. No soap in history has had a couple fall in love, get married and then stay that way the entire time. They always,an affair, some other type of betrayal, or someone get's killed off only to come back from the dead. Be thankful that they haven't kept them entirely happy. Happy couples get written off. Just ask Gregor...oh wait he and his happy wife are gone.
@krose1973 You are right, of course, but it's too bad this storyline wasn't written in a more realistic way. Oh, wait, I have to keep reminding myself that it IS a soap opera. Still, some of the writing is quite good much of the time. This time it just makes little sense.
I'm sure many of you would be so understanding if your husband went & did the stuff that Christian did with with some random skank like Jessica. Seriously, all indications are that Chris and Andi had sex with her, so stop making excuses. Whether he had sex with her or not, the stuff he did do constituted cheating and Chris is to blame for putting himself in the position to cheat. Also, Olli owns No Limits. You expect Olli to move away from NL because Chris cheated??? Uhm...NO.
@luckyduck152 I agree with what you say about the cheating, but Olli & Christian are actually partners in No Limits. Gregor gave his share of the business to Christian after he married & moved away.
@sfvniceguy That was written as part of the Rob story. But I don't think Christian own anything of NL anymore. Christian has complained recently that he makes very little money with his job, so I think there was some revision there by the writers and I doubt they will ever write Christian as owning part of NL. Christian has done absolutely nothing to contribute to NL other than to soil the sofa with the help of Andi and Jessica. He flat out refused to even work there. His stake in NL is nothing.
i know i will get nailed for this but i do not agree with Olli at all. You talk through things you don't push the other away, i am so mad, so hurt and so frustrated. I have emailed VL 10 times at least I vote every day for them to win couple, I am doing all i can do to help them and its like nothing is enough. I miss them so much, and to think the reason why is jessica, *spits name out of mouth* and her lies, grrrr
I think Jessica made the whole thing up. So the three kissed and were minus a few clothes. No one had sex. Ollie is so insecure and being stupid. Besides, the apartment belongs to Christian, why does he have to move out and Ollie gets to stay?
Aside from that, the performance was excellent. The conflict on his face at the end and the tears were heart-wrenching.
well I think it's time for Christian to find himself a new place and a new bf.. Olli needs to get over this or he'll get what he deserves for kicking Christian out....Olli didn't understand when Christian couldn't face having another kid and kept pushing it but now he is over reacting to something that never really happened I bet
@xadam2dudex agreed you don't do foster family to create a family, it was the wrong way, and when christian couldn't handle the pain olli pushed him away, and when olli pushes him away, Christian does what he always does he makes mistakes, ie drunk, rebecca, etc, im really agree with you 100 percent.
@xadam2dudex "Olli will get what he deserves for kicking Christian out". Yeah, like a boyfriend who doesn't cheat on him or use women to punish him, maybe??? As for Christian finding a new bf, he first has to divorce his HUSBAND and his new boyfriend will have to be okay with his Christian randomly chasing after women.
@luckyduck152 i don't agree with you, christian runs to women when he is afraid of loosing Olli, with rebecca and with jessica, it takes two to fight, and anyway Olli isn't pure he did after all kiss rob, and admitted to enjoying it, so he has issues as well.
I don't think something like that is worse when you're married but they did not have sex thats right but we don't know what happened that night with Jessica either
@ClaRa124100 It was implied that sex occurred. There has been nothing to imply that it didn't occur. The story has moved on. It is what it is. Christian, Andi and Jessica had sex, end of story. We can pretend an alternate universe exists where they did not have sex, but that's about all. And just to be clear, cheating still occurred whether sexual intercourse occurred or not. Christian put himself in the position to cheat and seemed more that willing and he has the history to back it up.
don't get me wrong I'm 90% sure the night ended with Christian having drunken sex (10 % hope is still alive) but as far as I can tell no feelings are involved and would it really be better if it wasn't Jessica but a man
@ClaRa124100 I don't think cheating on your husband is a good thing be it drunken or sober, with a man or a woman. I do understand why Olli has an insecurity about Christian & women, and why it probably hurts him more than if Christian had drunkenly slept with another man. Chris has fueled Ollie's insecurity with his behavior and now it has come to this. Of course Olli is going to wonder if Christian is even attracted to him anymore or if he's just longing to be with a woman.
with saying better i did not mean cheating in general is "good", of course it's not and Christian surely has to build up trust again but they only can get together again if Olli gets over his insecurity about Christians sexuality (as understandable as it is)
even if Christian was attracted to women after all that does not mean he isn't attracted to men
@luckyduck152 lol.. do u think anything really happened with Jessica ? I highly doubt it...I think she just got em drunk took pictures and then used their memory blackout against them...if they were so drunk they don't remember anything I doubt if anything could have happened sex wise
@xadam2dudex The audience would have been clued in if that was the case. VL is NOT subtle in their storytelling. As the story goes, Christian, Andi and Jessica had sex and Christian seemed to be quite a willing participant and afterwards had the nerve to be blasé about it.
In reality these two would need to recognize that everyone has flaws and to work on how they effect themselves and those around them. Chris is very reactive when angry/upset and Olli tends to make unilateral decisions and quick assumptions. These "flaws" need to be confronted and worked on together or there will be nothing but grief. If either had chased the other down to talk after the argument about foster child outside the night of the bachelor party - Jessica incident would not exist.
ellos dos se tienen que perdonar por que la verdad es que son el uno para el otro y tienen razon ninguna pareja es perfecta y ese problema pasa en casi todas y lo saben superar si no son tan serrados como es olli, pero ahora todo es culpa de olli xq es el, el que no quiere arreglar esa relacion pero ta, yo creo que no va a poder vivir sin chris y le va a pedir que vuelva xq ells nacieron para vivir juntos y amarse unos a otros xq es asi! LOS AMO!! y quiero q vuelvan a encontrar su verdadero amor
To be honest, I haven't seen much love in Chrolli's relationship for quite sometime. But love is not enough to sustain a relationship on its own. Two people can be crazy in love with each other, but there is more effort involved. Infidelity is a HUGE issue that can not be glossed over the way Christian wishes it could be and Christian's little habit of using women to get revenge every time he's upset at Olli definitely needs to be addressed before this relationship stands a chance of surviving.
I think Olli has showed great restraint so far. I would have kicked Christian out on his ass the day I found out about his cheating. Especially with Christian's blasé attitude to the whole thing. I think Christian is so used to Olli just forgiving him for his tantrums and fuck ups, that he thinks this too will easily blow over in a few days.
I think it was Christian's place long before Olli moved in, back when Jo Weil came back to the show and Chrolli's storyline first began. But Lars and his gf were living there too for awhile, as well as Coco, Christian's then girlriend at the time.
I too was surprised that Christian had to move out, considering it's his place. I always figured they'd have Olli move out and move in with his aunt Charlie for awhile. That would have been more believeable.
Ok, I really don't think Rebecca meant for Olli to take her advice that way. She basically meant discard all the bad memories and keep all of the good ones. Instead Olli took it the wrong way and is packing up everything that reminds him of the good times in his relationship with Christian. And him showing up at the castle to bring Christian his things sends the wrong message.
Once again brilliant acting from Jo and Thore! they showed their characters heartaches and desires all in one episode
Olli totally misinterpreted what Rebecca's advice was. She said, "You have to take another step. Get past this! Deal with your memories. Make sure that a new phase can begin between the two of you. Without these memories standing in your way all the time." She meant to say getting past the RECENT memories of the Jessica incident! She didn't say pack up all of your good memories and ship them off to Christian! Olli is having a melt down and can't think rationally anymore.
It will be a long and winding road for us Chrolli fans but we still have a few days to vote for the Soap Awards and show VL we love Oliver and Christian even more so when they are happy and together.
Nobody's perfect, Olli, you must realize that or sooner or later everyone will eventually reveal their imperfections and disappoint you and you'll end up all alone. 98% of your memories with Christian are amazing and great and you're willing to kick Christian out of your life for the 2% that disappoints you? Nonsense! Go and get your man back, Olli! And Christian stop with the flirting with anybody else and show Olli he's the only one and get your man back!
@randallross822 I totally agree, especially about Christian's shaping up. Otherwise, we'll have to keep going through bad drama like this over & over & over!
I just hate seeing him in pain. And I hate that Christian just seems like he doesn't care. I'm sure he probably cares, but Olli is SUFFERING. I want Olli to find someone who loves him. Someone who really loves him, who won't cheat on him several times. Thanks so much, MercuryMay01, you're the best :)
Olli... This is not the end of the world.... Why dont you try to understand Christian....
Chris.... its your chance to rebuild your relationship.... if it keep continues, i could foresee the divorce between you guys....
Trust is the basis of any relationship... No one is perfect in the world... Mistakes are made... keep forgiving them... Move on with each other's life ... Being together is greater than anything.... Love you, guys.... dont continue this...
why is everythin' goin' from bad to worse T_T.... great advice "deal with ur memories" *sarcasm" .... send the boys packing n headin in the opposite direction... brava chica brava
Olli is being an idiot!! What a super lame move to take Christian's stuff to him and then say he doesn't want to end their relationship! What a confused message! I would never end a relationship with the love of my life over one mistake that may or may not have happened, disappointed that they are both running from really talking it out. See a couples counselor please!
@randallross822 i agree with you. it's a bad move. but in retrospect, when someone is under a tremendous emotional pain, he or she may act irrationally.
@Babyt4 haha, yeah! I can't believe Olli has done this. Surely it would've been easier for him to move out rather than kick Christian out, along with ALL his belongings?
I don't understand one thing, and I would be thankefull if someone could answer me the question: Oli is trying to not break up with Chris, but why is he throwing his out of their apartment? He wants to thing about them but can't because the stuff remindes him at Chris... Whaaaaat? I don't get this... to me it seems paradox. So anyone got some hints for me?
@Lockedilock Totally agree. I do not get him at ALL. And why does not he just pack the boxes under the bed? Does he really need to go to the castle with the boxes???!!! Soapland.
@Lockedilock Olli is afraid that Christian could be into woman again. He said once to Rebecca or Dana (not sure anymore who it was) that, if Christian would have had Sex with another guy, he (Olli) could fight for Christian. But he doesn´t stand a chance, if it´s a woman. Olli is really struggling with a feelings. He loves Christian, but can´t trust him anymore. So that´s why he said he needs a braek to think about their relationship.
@Lockedilock Second Part of my answer: Plus they discoverd that they maybe have different goals in life. Like Olli wants to have another child, even if it´s just for a few months. But Christian doesn´t want to. Because it would be too sad for him giving the child back to their parents (or to whomsoever) one day.
@Lockedilock I think the answer is that this whole storyline is handled badly, so you'd need to ask the writers what the hell is going on. Neither Olli's actions in this episode nor Christian's seemingly casual attitude about the seriousness of what he did & how it has messed up his marriage makes any sense.
Cristian is so fake! I cannot endure that last weeks he had not show the least bit of love, affection, sadness and longing feelings, but when Oliver appears face to face with Cristian, he acts very affably and loving. The hypocrisy of Cristian is absolutly dissapointing, unpleasant and painfull.I am hurted with Cristian. Anyway, I hope he could make something that it could deserve his forgiven, for the moment he did not it, also he made worse it even
@etone44 I would like believe in that too, but I recall the start of this love relationship and for exemple the story with Rob, in those days Cristian was sleeping at the castle but he was awake all the night and he showed that suffered because He thought that was losing his lover. So, both situations are very distinctes,since now Cristian seems fully indifferent. Anyway I desire that they manage to solve it, but Cristian should show his remorse and the least bit of love feeling to Olliver .
I wish Christian would finally show at least some effort in rebuilding this relationship. I'm sick of him sitting back and waiting for Ollie to forgive him and nothing else.
OMG!! MM! you're back!!!....thanks GOd!!....I was suffering all week long not knowing wut was happening!!!...thank you!!...anyways....Oli is acting so stupidly!!...to me it seems like he just wants to break up with Chrisitan....and Christian on the other hand is not putting that much of an effort to stop the separation!!!...Im sooo sad!!!
..I don't understand the way they are behaving: at the beginning they were the "couple of the year" and now they're nothing.. they don't even talk to each other, how are they supposed to end this in a good way?? was their love just only a word?? :-(
I'm not sure but the background music at the bar always so fit to the storyline huh.... Angus and Julia Stone, sometimes I just hate you makin' me cry!!!!
the photo on the fridge is of their first proper kiss... now is it just me or was there no one in the room to take that picture?? ahh never mind, still sweet, I LOVE CHROLLI
PiratesInFluffyHats 5 months ago 3
OK, here's the deal. Both need therapy STAT. Olli needs to deal with his perfectionism, control issues, and insecurity. Christian needs sexual identity counseling and to learn how to express his feelings (typical of adult children of addicts) and STOP PLAYING THE VICTIM. Olli, one of the first rules of gaydom is never fall for someone you bring out: you two had no more business buying a vacuum cleaner attachment together, much less deciding you are in love. Otherwise, great acting!
sealforvr 7 months ago
Hold the phone. Christian "hopped into bed with Jessica"?
Someone clear this up for me, please. She got them super drunk, she purposely snapped SEEMINGLY provocative photos of them together, they fell asleep, somehow naked, ON A COUCH IN THE BAR. Also, Andi was there the whole time. Do we really even know what really happened? It could have just been Jessica-bitch getting them drunk and making them THINK something happened.
DanWCloud 7 months ago 3
@DanWCloud Possibly. No one really knows. That's why I hate that bitch so much.
PinaColada4645 7 months ago
@DanWCloud erh i think it's precisely that she was making things up o.o I mean drunk like that, i cannot even make a move on a dead cat, and here is a person. So their issue is Olli needs to control his fear and takes the risk, and Christian needs to stop all the explosions and gives more to have his partner knows his feelings for him.
DDragon1226 4 days ago in playlist Christian and oliver III
Olli loves christian so much ...... but Christian always massed up every thing ...... Christian is little selfish ........ Ohhhh grrrrrrrrr
Sjczz 8 months ago
Christian is not straight. He is a bit more toward the straight side of being bisexual. I don't like him anymore because he is so selfish and such a bastard. Olli deserves a better lover. Anyway, the past Chrolli is always in my heart no matter what happens. The past Chrolli is the best thing that happened to me.
teenagecrush1211 8 months ago
I always find it creepy when people sniff other peoples clothes... and Olli does this a lot.
Janeyyy94 8 months ago
@Janeyyy94 It's not abt the clothes, Olli smell Christian in this clothes.
soorakitty 8 months ago
Enough already!
I've been so thrilled with the entire Chrolli story becasue it was so real up untiol this point. This packing things up and moving things out and saying yes I still want you but no was realistic up to a point but it has now stretched the line of credibility. At this point Christian has tried to re-connect to Olli but it's Olli who has to stop this dangerous behaivior!
tenor714 9 months ago
I have sick addiction to the boys being away from each other.Maybe cos the electricity is always there......
JRRDPR 9 months ago
Youtube is doing weird things on my watchlist. They shown like eight videos I have seen, and then put this one and a couple more mixed with more recent videos. And it took me half the video to realize that I had already seen this. Is anybody else having this kind of situation?
valnyra 9 months ago
Hey can somebody tell me how do you write "What are you doing here?" in german :DD I liked to know.
ErgGeest 9 months ago
@ErgGeest "Was machst du denn hier?" but ollie shortens it a bit/colloquial to "was macht du'n hier?" ;)
jaecoli 9 months ago
wat the fuck is oliver doing gosh.
selena864 9 months ago
If we've seen that look on Olli's face (1:40) once, we've seen it a thousand times.
jhr459 9 months ago
this shall pass, and in the right time and in the right place it will end up as ChrOlli. Love conquers all. For the meantime let them know how important one from the other...they have been bonded by marriage, not they have to be bonded by what we call unconditional love...♥♥ChrOlli forever!
Aramikah 9 months ago
@Aramikah typo...i mean now they have to be bonded with unconditional love♥
Aramikah 9 months ago
Seem like many viewers think Olli has gone too far, so is faithfulness not important to you guys? Seem like VL writer had used the blackout way (a more acceptable way than show us a sober Christian get intimate with Jessica) to tell us Chris had actually cheated on Olli. Now Christian should realise the seriousness of his behaviour & how much Olli is hurt. If afterall this "action" from Olli, Chris still can't learn the lesson or end up with someone else, then who need a husband like this?
maxxliu 9 months ago 3
@maxxliu Oh my god. Finally someone i can agree with. I was a little apprehensive to disclose my personal opinion with the account that everybody blames olli for his marriage problem, when in fact Christian was the one that cheated. Instead of people seeing how hurt Olli is they feeling sorry for Christian, the adulterous.
jessica042391 9 months ago 3
@jessica042391 I agree. Up until this point in the story I have loved them both equally and was able to see both sides. This time I can't do it. At the very least a person should be able to believe that their partner finds them sexually attractive. How could a person keep taking these hits from Christian making out with women with his self esteem intact or any trust in him. Christian is an adulterer and he has hurt Ollie in the same manner multiple times.
shinojosa8 8 months ago
What happened between them? Did someone cheat?
DaxShaw 9 months ago
@DaxShaw Chris did it. With a woman.
MarioBrazilRio 9 months ago
:-( Christian looked and sounded so hopeful when Olli waled into the stables then so crushed. And Olli you silly silly boy you are falling apart because you LOVE him, removing him from your life is not going to make the pain go away...
justbecause421 9 months ago
*restraining myself from saying something terrible about olli, 'cause I know it will piss you all off*
axelnelson 9 months ago
that was not fair of olli, i dont agree with him. forgive but dont forget, give the man 7. 70000 other chances
lajeunefille29 9 months ago
Rather perplexed here. This is a soap: these are fictional characters. The writers made clear for months that they were hell-bent on putting an end to Chrolli. And that's what they did. I don't look at spoilers, and we don't discuss them here. But: why are we still watching? Chrolli are history, as the writers scream at us in every episode. Is the idea that we need to shift our attention to other characters? I'm afraid I watched VL solely because of Chrolli. I am not interested in the others...
jarabaa 9 months ago
Nice videos, but sad!! I hope better times. Thank you for the posts, kisses from Brazil!!
Angelo32516 9 months ago
What is happening here? Why do we have this drama? Olli , first of all, though you knew Christian was straight, you loved him... though you knew you could not get him, you lived a life for him... and Christian gave up everything in his life but had only the hope that you would live with him... now why do you pull such a trigger.... if you think, coming across of Christian's things remind about him... its what all meant... everyone reconciliates in the world like that... pls dont do this
pannanboy 9 months ago
Although Olli said 'No' to Christian's question about this being the end of their relationship - I see it as a move in that direction, so sad! Olli crying at the end....got me all teary-eyed. The 'time out episode' and this one - very little Chrolli screentime - such a pity as these are very important progressions in this SL - hope we get more Chrolli screen time soon! ~ TEAM CHROLLI, CHROLLI FOREVER!!!
coyleJ 9 months ago 2
Danke May!! :) - Olli with Christian's scarf at the start was so sweet, but so heart-breaking too - so much angst!! The focus is on Olli at the moment and how he is dealing with the 'time out' - hope we get to see things from Christian's perspective soon - I think its finally hit him how serious things are! Olli gettting rid of Christian's stuff, just like Christian did with Lilly's - trying to move on.... Christian looked so happy to see Olli at the end... :'( - then came the shock!! ...
coyleJ 9 months ago
@coyleJ My sentiments EXACTLY!!
BDRoland 9 months ago
WHAT? Olli should move out instead of throwing everything out of the apartment. Next time he should try kill Christian or bury him alive (like Olivia) so that he can think.
revolutionhk 9 months ago
Judith, where the hell are you?! If anyone knows these two, it's you! Can you please please PLEASE come back and knock some sense into them? Because if you were in that apartment with Olli, you would totally tell him he was taking Rebecca's advice the wrong way. C'mon WE'RE DYING HERE!!!
Dreamstrikers 9 months ago
Enough already! So tired of all this drama. Olli, you kicked Christian out. So, man up and deal with the consequences.
etone44 9 months ago
So tired of all of this drama. Olli, you kicked Christian out. Man up and deal with the consequences.
etone44 9 months ago
(cont) The whole reason why their seperarated is because they're so hurt they absolutley refuse to be in the same room with each other. Someone has to forcefully bring these two together and lock 'em up! >.<
Dreamstrikers 9 months ago
I would seriously break into the apartment and make sure Christian and Olli both show up at the same time. Then i'd be like: *looks at Olli* "You're not leaving. Shut up." *looks at Christian* "You think you're going anywhere, buddy, you're insane. Now, you two will listen to me...no, shut up! Listen. To. Me. You two are going to go in there," *points to their room* "I will lock the door behind you two and you will TALK. And when you come out, you two better be happy and in love again. Okay?" :D
Dreamstrikers 9 months ago
look, i know this is such a bitchy thing to say but, here goes nothing hehe: GO fucking cry ollie, you made ur decision stick with it, u permeantly were pushing christian into things, the adoption, the marraige, always deciding what u wanted and makeing him go along wit it, and lets face it, if i was stuck wit ollie, i think i'd neeed to cut loose too, instead of playing the feckin martyre he should have got drunk wit christian that way they would have been with each other, oh bad boy christian
ilovetodreamatno3 9 months ago
Nooooo.... Not the smiley face bobble head!!! :-o On a more serious note, I know we're all for Team Chrolli, and while I think Christian deserved to be in the doghouse lately, Olli is starting to try my patience! It's as if Olli has gone down a path he's too "proud" ("orgueilleux" in French) to admit was the wrong one so he's carrying on with it. Ugh! (Oh, but thanks so much, May!)
GuestEightyFour 9 months ago
How sad, where's my Kleenex box damn it!! I think Olli is right. You really do not know what you have until you almost or completely lose something dear to you. I think this will be a good wake-up call for Christian, and besides Christian and Olli have their own following, I do not think it will be long before they are back together-this is a show still driven by popularity and ratings. I do wonder if Christian is going to go too far with his boxing. A tragedy would have them make-up quick.
2hunt4u 9 months ago
some randomness to lighten the mood....I LOLed at the picture of Mona Lisa on the fridge....take a closer look....although the pic on its left was highly distracting.....;)
1991manali 9 months ago
@1991manali What's funny about the pic on the left was that was from the episode of their second kiss and nobody was in the room to even take that picture :P
BDRoland 9 months ago 2
"tut mir leid dass ich dich gestoert hab, das naechste mal werde ich anklopfen"
Christian ist ein unsensibler huebscher Kerl....was fuer ein Arsch!!!
wer hat hier wen gevoegelt.........
harusame80 9 months ago
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Olli is being a drama queen. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
chrollifanboy28 9 months ago
Funny how all the Christian fans ALWAYS make EXCUSES for his behaviour!!!
If everytime Olli and Christian had a disagreement and Olli was the one that got drunk, kissed women and slept with a woman to punish Christian you would be BLAMING Olli but instead IT'S NEVER CHRISTIAN'S FAULT...yeah right....talk about a double standard!!!
Olli has every right to be hurt and disillusioned, Christian has broke his heart and destroyed his trust.......I feel so very sad for Olli.
bellabana 9 months ago
I'm sure they'll be back together by the time of their wedding anniversary (August 27th,2011) that will be 1 year that they've been married.
So yes, this will be a painful couple of months, but we have to stick together and see the light at the end of the tunnel. All soap couples go through heartache and heartbreak of some kind or another before they reunite.
Chrolli will get back together. I will sit back and watch Jo and Thore's awesome acting talents until Chrolli are one again.
ShawnActor 9 months ago 6
I can't wait to see the make up sex !! haha wink hope it's as good as part 45
jackmctn 9 months ago
@jackmctn no, not 45, the make up sex after the whole Rob episode. Now THAT was HOT! It better be just as good as that time! (And i'll be crying with happiness of course) :)
Dreamstrikers 9 months ago 2
@Dreamstrikers Ok we all have a favorite:) Part 45 is the part that got me hooked on Chrolli
jackmctn 9 months ago
Oh dear.. I think what Olli did is wrong! While a couple needs a break or distance when in a crisis, it is always a wrong move to move out from the house! NEVER! It usually makes matters worst. Yes the memories will linger but the freedom of being away usually tear the relationship apart. Mending a broken relationship is hard but couples need to be near each other and deal with being togetherness. If it didnt work out then be apart wd be next best thing. But be prepared fo a permanent break-up!!
menzhi 9 months ago
I have to agree with Olli: it's hard to deal with your significant other's betrayal when everything around you reminds you of him. Not sure that packing all of Christian's things and sending them to him is the smartest of moves, but when you don't know what else to do, well, what other options are you left with but do something even if it's not the wisest of choices? Sigh.
jsg03jd 9 months ago 2
Okay Olli ... the sniffing the scarf thing is getting a little weird! lol
But in all seriousness, this is moving a little to quickly and Olli's being a little to over the top here!
yournewsecretcrush 9 months ago
@yournewsecretcrush I think he completely misunderstood her. And, excuse me, couldn't Jo even squeeze out one single tear? I feel his pain but only 'cause I've been there before.
36yandcounting 9 months ago
Both of them have made lots of mistakes, and they have to realize that none of them is the victim nor the bad guy.
For one hand, I understand what Olli is doing. But on the other hand, I think that getting rid of Christian's stuff is not the right way to go.
I'm sure that Chrolli will get back together at some point, but for that to work out they must be true to themselves and to each other.
Moonshine3991 9 months ago 2
Omg OLLI I HATE YOU
sagischare 9 months ago
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get christian and newboyfrined will you, am sick of olli his is winning too much for my taste.
mariophilippo 9 months ago
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Thanks May!!
sebazbiczno 9 months ago
Oh Olli...
Thanks May!!
1107red 9 months ago
We appreciate you, May. Glad you're back!
petirojoful 9 months ago
ok i know it's soap land, but how's it even POSSIBLE that they have their "first time" kiss photo on the fridge :P who was the third party taking photos of them and why weren't we also invited? lol
acceptanceisbliss 9 months ago
Olli, I love you to death, but comeon' already, I know what Christian did was wrong, but he loves you and you love him, so please forgive him ok , please for both your sakes. This is breaking my heart
gem2967 9 months ago
okay Olli, go meet yr husband and ve SEX,lots and lots of it!
you re acting over the top..you re certainly suffering from CHRISTIAN DEPRIVATION!
evercheerful 9 months ago
There is a total lack of communication between them. They must take time to talk. It is not being everyone's side they will get there. I wonder if Olli would have reacted the same way if Christian had kissed another man. Olli is afraid and that is understandable. But his attitude is a bit much for me.
stgeorges972 9 months ago 2
Olli loves Christian, but there's no trust atm. Everytime they are near each other, he wants to be with him, but at the same time he thinks he'll cheat on him. Getting back together now would not be good for either of them.
IvanIV05 9 months ago 12
It's hearbreaking to see my boys so desperate.
matilda8888 9 months ago
Well it's obvious you still love him,Olli. But if you can't trust him,then you have to move on if you're not prepared to wipe the slate clean. All that moping behind the bar is not going to do wonders for your latte and mocha sales
GOSMGR1 9 months ago
As sad as this is, I thought the promo picture @3:07 of Olli and Christian (from the episode where they slept together for the first time) was hilarious, as if it was totally normal for them to have a photo of that intimate moment. Ummm...didn't they wonder who took the picture or how it was taken? Lol, or are they one of those couples with a camera fetish? Prob just some kind fanservice, but I still think it was funny.
akanobouken 9 months ago 5
@akanobouken Haha i know right, i thought that. Who would've taken it? strange. Lolx
Arianna336 9 months ago
@akanobouken That picture on the fridge was taken by Olivia! Remember she was there when the confrontation started that led to that kiss and the first time they had sex. She was hiding in Christian's bedroom to see how the confrontation played out, took the picture of their first real passionate kiss and tip toed out before they got down and dirty! ha! ;-)
randallross822 9 months ago
OMG what the heck!!! OLLLLLLIIII!!! THis is bad, bad very bad Olli. How can you do that?
sweetpuppy120489 9 months ago
God, this storyline breaks by heart. I just hope the road to them getting back together is just as amazing. Finally, good work, Show!
Just4Fun20002001 9 months ago
Fuck you, Olli, just, fuck you.
corvus13 9 months ago
my feelings are so mixed right now! i know that Olli is hurt but i can not stand them being like this. i understand that they need to work things out but i guess i am just an incredibly optimistic Chrolli fangirl; i just want them back together:(
krazykay17 9 months ago 2
I wish Olli would show his lonely, vulnerable side to Christian. Because as far as Christian is concerned, he only sees the angry side, not what Rebecca or what Dana saw in the last episode. Maybe he'd know that Olli doesn't want him gone forever.
sarasr18 9 months ago 4
Relationships are build on trust,if that trust is broken then its too hard to make it up. Its hard for Ollie to trust Christian again, its not the first incident where Christian has broken Ollie's trust, Ollie always forgave him . This time he is scared and hurt, fear of losing an important person in his life. They both need distance to think how much they mean to each other.
kormasutra69 9 months ago
The only good thing to come out of this SL is all the people that I and many others have connected with from all around the world in the past week, (thanks again to dear May for making this possible) united in our despair, a kind soul even sent me 'hugz' from Panama. I have been so touched by all your support and the increasingly big cookie couch that I have emailed Das Erste/VL to let them know the scale of hurt and support out there for TEAM CHROLLI! Thank you everyone you have been awesomexx
WidgeySmiglet 9 months ago 2
@WidgeySmiglet
I know I love seeing many people around the world united! :)
We have to hang in there bc, yes this SL is worth garbage :(
But at the end their love will help them get thru this big and horrible crisis!
sihlover2011 9 months ago
There was a time when this would not have hurt Olli as deeply, but as he's getting older, he's changing in how he views his life. He wants a life partner, one who wants what he wants and is faithful. Christian and he were already moving apart after Lily left. This whole thing with Jessica just pushed them further apart and over the edge. They BOTH need space and time to figure out what they want for their future.
Spherical07 9 months ago 2
Ollie she should confront that woman and demand to absolutely did they actually have sex, a picture kissing does not prove, it, She was interested in Andi, and it could easily be that they did nothing. I wish Christian would say look I don't remember if I actually did anything ...
LJNOW22 9 months ago
If anyone should have moved out of the flatshare, it should be Olli! That flatshare was Christian's home first, no matter that Olli's business is downstairs! Am I right? what do you think?
zcst4eva 9 months ago
@sfausdn
where are you?! Bring the huge couch! We need it :(
sihlover2011 9 months ago
@sihlover2011 I am sitting right here my friend in grief. Maybe you can't see me because of that huge huge mountain of tissues right in front of me. Is it only me or is soapworld is a really nasty world this month. And what the hell is wrong with that writers?
Oh the good old times..Champagne for all, every day....and now? Cookies for Chrolli World. But: United we stand ...
sfausdn 9 months ago 5
@sfausdn
oh dear love! don't worry we're not alone :(
We'll get thru this! Cheers to the good time and to the future good times! :)
sihlover2011 9 months ago
well that's their opinion. I believe their love is real and strong, and if not, Chrolli wouldn't be here after THREE years! For those brave enough to stay, hang on tight because the Roller Coaster is just getting started! I brought all the ammunition again! (chocolates, cookies, hot chocolate, and tissues) so if anyone needs them go ahead :)
and May we know Olli has a great taste in men. First Christian ;D and now Jo Weil, who let me tell you, is not bad looking at all! ;D
Chrolli Forever!<3
sihlover2011 9 months ago 47
@sihlover2011 "I believe their love is real and strong, and if not, Chrolli wouldn't be here after THREE years!"
AGREED! It's very rare that couples on soaps last as long as they have without breaking up constantly. They've made it through everything together and I think its obvious the writers want them together. They just have to throw this SL in to mix things up a bit and also drive the fans crazy.
linzyxxxxx 9 months ago 2
@sihlover2011 I need everything you got! *sniff* comfort me and reassure me they're getting back together in the end... please?
Tedd92 9 months ago
@Tedd92
They will don't drive yourself crazy dear! but real life crisis take time, and this can't be the exception :)
so stay with us and drink all the hot chocolate you want and we'll use all the tissues that are needed.
sihlover2011 9 months ago
@sihlover2011 i have already been drowning myself with chocolate but the more ammunition the better! i just hurts so much to see Chrolli like this...
krazykay17 9 months ago
@krazykay17
I know dear, I know :(
sihlover2011 9 months ago
Ok Olli you are the first one to put down therapy. Now you're really acting like someone in desperate need of it. The feeling of being alone and or w/o Christian isn't going to go away because you move his stuff out. You've totally lost the focus on what this is all about. Jo and Thore - great actors! Thanks, May!!
sunflyer40 9 months ago 2
yeah alfiin muchas gracias por el video pense ke no veria mas sobre chris y olli eres mi diOos del estha seri jejejej thank for the video
TheOnyxHotel28 9 months ago
unashamedly I'm team CHROLLI! :)
There are many mistakes and issues and flaws that need to be resolve before bringing the couple back together. And this is going to take long, yes it sucks, but I'm happy that both Jo and Thore are doing a superb job! :)
Both Olli and Christian need to realize their mistakes, where they went wrong and take the first step. Meanwhile all this hurt and confusion is gonna keep going. If many fans feel like giving up and say let them be apart and blah blah blah (con.)
sihlover2011 9 months ago 27
I love how some of us, Chrolli fans, try to bring the mood up just a little and when we do it. It's all gone by the next sad episode! Wake up everyone one! After a shitty cheating SL, thanks VL since we know you can do better than that!, it's not easy to bring a couple back on track. So just because it's Chrolli it doesn't mean they'll get a pink color reconciliation within a week! It takes TIME! Here we go with the team Olli and then team Chrsitian, but me (con.)
sihlover2011 9 months ago 4
Oh sweet Olli Christian is lucky if my mann cheated he would get worse than a break for a while.
elleran1969 9 months ago
@krose1973 I agree with what you said. Just wish VL had not used the tired adultery SL (which personally I do see as just implied, being as they wrote Christian having a blackout vs a clear memory ) Besides obviously hoping that Chrolli reunite, I also hope the Christian/women issue is resolved one way or the other and we find out the truth about the drunken night (for Chrolli's sake and for ours!).
@ deepdarkmidnight - It has been a fine chance to watch the guys act their hearts out :-).
Banshenwanshen 9 months ago
It's being a bit hard to handle this. But still there are a lot of enjoyable things like their great acting skills.
Danke noch mal dear May! :-)
deepdarkmidnight 9 months ago
dam christian should went after oliver go after him it will work out just work it out.. now when does christian and olver 086 comes on youtube?
thisguy8085 9 months ago
I don't think I can stand this. If they break up, there's no need for me to watch. I loved the positive / "pro-couple" message I was getting from this but if that message is gone then so am I.
Shadeaux44 9 months ago
I really don't know why everyone is so surprised that the VL writers have written a break in Chrolli's relationship. This is a soap opera. No soap in history has had a couple fall in love, get married and then stay that way the entire time. They always,an affair, some other type of betrayal, or someone get's killed off only to come back from the dead. Be thankful that they haven't kept them entirely happy. Happy couples get written off. Just ask Gregor...oh wait he and his happy wife are gone.
krose1973 9 months ago 2
@krose1973 You are right, of course, but it's too bad this storyline wasn't written in a more realistic way. Oh, wait, I have to keep reminding myself that it IS a soap opera. Still, some of the writing is quite good much of the time. This time it just makes little sense.
sfvniceguy 9 months ago
I'm sure many of you would be so understanding if your husband went & did the stuff that Christian did with with some random skank like Jessica. Seriously, all indications are that Chris and Andi had sex with her, so stop making excuses. Whether he had sex with her or not, the stuff he did do constituted cheating and Chris is to blame for putting himself in the position to cheat. Also, Olli owns No Limits. You expect Olli to move away from NL because Chris cheated??? Uhm...NO.
luckyduck152 9 months ago
@luckyduck152 I agree with what you say about the cheating, but Olli & Christian are actually partners in No Limits. Gregor gave his share of the business to Christian after he married & moved away.
sfvniceguy 9 months ago
@sfvniceguy That was written as part of the Rob story. But I don't think Christian own anything of NL anymore. Christian has complained recently that he makes very little money with his job, so I think there was some revision there by the writers and I doubt they will ever write Christian as owning part of NL. Christian has done absolutely nothing to contribute to NL other than to soil the sofa with the help of Andi and Jessica. He flat out refused to even work there. His stake in NL is nothing.
luckyduck152 9 months ago
thanks May, *hugs* hope your doing ok i appreciate you so much.
soonersherewego 9 months ago
i know i will get nailed for this but i do not agree with Olli at all. You talk through things you don't push the other away, i am so mad, so hurt and so frustrated. I have emailed VL 10 times at least I vote every day for them to win couple, I am doing all i can do to help them and its like nothing is enough. I miss them so much, and to think the reason why is jessica, *spits name out of mouth* and her lies, grrrr
soonersherewego 9 months ago
I think Jessica made the whole thing up. So the three kissed and were minus a few clothes. No one had sex. Ollie is so insecure and being stupid. Besides, the apartment belongs to Christian, why does he have to move out and Ollie gets to stay?
Aside from that, the performance was excellent. The conflict on his face at the end and the tears were heart-wrenching.
aeromel36 9 months ago
@aeromel36 i agree with you, im beginning to get very put out with olli
soonersherewego 9 months ago
well I think it's time for Christian to find himself a new place and a new bf.. Olli needs to get over this or he'll get what he deserves for kicking Christian out....Olli didn't understand when Christian couldn't face having another kid and kept pushing it but now he is over reacting to something that never really happened I bet
xadam2dudex 9 months ago
@xadam2dudex agreed you don't do foster family to create a family, it was the wrong way, and when christian couldn't handle the pain olli pushed him away, and when olli pushes him away, Christian does what he always does he makes mistakes, ie drunk, rebecca, etc, im really agree with you 100 percent.
soonersherewego 9 months ago
@xadam2dudex "Olli will get what he deserves for kicking Christian out". Yeah, like a boyfriend who doesn't cheat on him or use women to punish him, maybe??? As for Christian finding a new bf, he first has to divorce his HUSBAND and his new boyfriend will have to be okay with his Christian randomly chasing after women.
luckyduck152 9 months ago
@luckyduck152 i don't agree with you, christian runs to women when he is afraid of loosing Olli, with rebecca and with jessica, it takes two to fight, and anyway Olli isn't pure he did after all kiss rob, and admitted to enjoying it, so he has issues as well.
soonersherewego 9 months ago
@soonersherewego Oh please. Chrolli wasn't married when Rob was around and Olli didn't have sex with Rob. Apples and oranges.
luckyduck152 9 months ago
@luckyduck152
I don't think something like that is worse when you're married but they did not have sex thats right but we don't know what happened that night with Jessica either
ClaRa124100 9 months ago
@ClaRa124100 It was implied that sex occurred. There has been nothing to imply that it didn't occur. The story has moved on. It is what it is. Christian, Andi and Jessica had sex, end of story. We can pretend an alternate universe exists where they did not have sex, but that's about all. And just to be clear, cheating still occurred whether sexual intercourse occurred or not. Christian put himself in the position to cheat and seemed more that willing and he has the history to back it up.
luckyduck152 9 months ago
@luckyduck152
don't get me wrong I'm 90% sure the night ended with Christian having drunken sex (10 % hope is still alive) but as far as I can tell no feelings are involved and would it really be better if it wasn't Jessica but a man
ClaRa124100 9 months ago
@ClaRa124100 I don't think cheating on your husband is a good thing be it drunken or sober, with a man or a woman. I do understand why Olli has an insecurity about Christian & women, and why it probably hurts him more than if Christian had drunkenly slept with another man. Chris has fueled Ollie's insecurity with his behavior and now it has come to this. Of course Olli is going to wonder if Christian is even attracted to him anymore or if he's just longing to be with a woman.
luckyduck152 9 months ago
@luckyduck152
with saying better i did not mean cheating in general is "good", of course it's not and Christian surely has to build up trust again but they only can get together again if Olli gets over his insecurity about Christians sexuality (as understandable as it is)
even if Christian was attracted to women after all that does not mean he isn't attracted to men
ClaRa124100 9 months ago
@luckyduck152 lol.. do u think anything really happened with Jessica ? I highly doubt it...I think she just got em drunk took pictures and then used their memory blackout against them...if they were so drunk they don't remember anything I doubt if anything could have happened sex wise
xadam2dudex 9 months ago 2
@xadam2dudex The audience would have been clued in if that was the case. VL is NOT subtle in their storytelling. As the story goes, Christian, Andi and Jessica had sex and Christian seemed to be quite a willing participant and afterwards had the nerve to be blasé about it.
luckyduck152 9 months ago
Ollie's dumb, and making me mad. Christian didn't even cheat, Jessica is making it up.
24mlc 9 months ago
Carlos doesn't like this at all =/
hawkhunter2487 9 months ago
I'm so heart broken about this
billyguel 9 months ago
@billyguel you are not alone, believe me
soonersherewego 9 months ago
In reality these two would need to recognize that everyone has flaws and to work on how they effect themselves and those around them. Chris is very reactive when angry/upset and Olli tends to make unilateral decisions and quick assumptions. These "flaws" need to be confronted and worked on together or there will be nothing but grief. If either had chased the other down to talk after the argument about foster child outside the night of the bachelor party - Jessica incident would not exist.
Banshenwanshen 9 months ago 4
ellos dos se tienen que perdonar por que la verdad es que son el uno para el otro y tienen razon ninguna pareja es perfecta y ese problema pasa en casi todas y lo saben superar si no son tan serrados como es olli, pero ahora todo es culpa de olli xq es el, el que no quiere arreglar esa relacion pero ta, yo creo que no va a poder vivir sin chris y le va a pedir que vuelva xq ells nacieron para vivir juntos y amarse unos a otros xq es asi! LOS AMO!! y quiero q vuelvan a encontrar su verdadero amor
sofibaz 9 months ago
To be honest, I haven't seen much love in Chrolli's relationship for quite sometime. But love is not enough to sustain a relationship on its own. Two people can be crazy in love with each other, but there is more effort involved. Infidelity is a HUGE issue that can not be glossed over the way Christian wishes it could be and Christian's little habit of using women to get revenge every time he's upset at Olli definitely needs to be addressed before this relationship stands a chance of surviving.
luckyduck152 9 months ago 4
I think Olli has showed great restraint so far. I would have kicked Christian out on his ass the day I found out about his cheating. Especially with Christian's blasé attitude to the whole thing. I think Christian is so used to Olli just forgiving him for his tantrums and fuck ups, that he thinks this too will easily blow over in a few days.
luckyduck152 9 months ago
well its not enough for him to move out because you still love him...
karenada100 9 months ago
isn't that christain house too.. oli get over yourself
karenada100 9 months ago
@karenada100
I think it was Christian's place long before Olli moved in, back when Jo Weil came back to the show and Chrolli's storyline first began. But Lars and his gf were living there too for awhile, as well as Coco, Christian's then girlriend at the time.
I too was surprised that Christian had to move out, considering it's his place. I always figured they'd have Olli move out and move in with his aunt Charlie for awhile. That would have been more believeable.
ShawnActor 9 months ago 2
@ShawnActor Gregor owned it first, they were paying rent to him as the owner of no limits downstairs.
corvus13 9 months ago
Ok, I really don't think Rebecca meant for Olli to take her advice that way. She basically meant discard all the bad memories and keep all of the good ones. Instead Olli took it the wrong way and is packing up everything that reminds him of the good times in his relationship with Christian. And him showing up at the castle to bring Christian his things sends the wrong message.
Once again brilliant acting from Jo and Thore! they showed their characters heartaches and desires all in one episode
ShawnActor 9 months ago 4
Olli totally misinterpreted what Rebecca's advice was. She said, "You have to take another step. Get past this! Deal with your memories. Make sure that a new phase can begin between the two of you. Without these memories standing in your way all the time." She meant to say getting past the RECENT memories of the Jessica incident! She didn't say pack up all of your good memories and ship them off to Christian! Olli is having a melt down and can't think rationally anymore.
randallross822 9 months ago 3
@randallross822 I totally agree
madandmountedNorway 9 months ago
Thank you so much Mercury for all the work!
It will be a long and winding road for us Chrolli fans but we still have a few days to vote for the Soap Awards and show VL we love Oliver and Christian even more so when they are happy and together.
aretmisia 9 months ago 3
Please don't do that Olli :( Just forgive him!
Ainiewainy 9 months ago
Nobody's perfect, Olli, you must realize that or sooner or later everyone will eventually reveal their imperfections and disappoint you and you'll end up all alone. 98% of your memories with Christian are amazing and great and you're willing to kick Christian out of your life for the 2% that disappoints you? Nonsense! Go and get your man back, Olli! And Christian stop with the flirting with anybody else and show Olli he's the only one and get your man back!
randallross822 9 months ago
@randallross822 I totally agree, especially about Christian's shaping up. Otherwise, we'll have to keep going through bad drama like this over & over & over!
sfvniceguy 9 months ago
Oh Olli. I'm so sorry Christian did this to you.
I just hate seeing him in pain. And I hate that Christian just seems like he doesn't care. I'm sure he probably cares, but Olli is SUFFERING. I want Olli to find someone who loves him. Someone who really loves him, who won't cheat on him several times. Thanks so much, MercuryMay01, you're the best :)
blondelover7 9 months ago
Olli... This is not the end of the world.... Why dont you try to understand Christian....
Chris.... its your chance to rebuild your relationship.... if it keep continues, i could foresee the divorce between you guys....
Trust is the basis of any relationship... No one is perfect in the world... Mistakes are made... keep forgiving them... Move on with each other's life ... Being together is greater than anything.... Love you, guys.... dont continue this...
pannanboy 9 months ago
Olli this is NOT what Rebbecca meant. She meant to process and get over the bad memories not to throw away the good ones. FACE PALM!
Side note: You look fantastic in green.
MsNJS88 9 months ago 6
why is everythin' goin' from bad to worse T_T.... great advice "deal with ur memories" *sarcasm" .... send the boys packing n headin in the opposite direction... brava chica brava
brokenX97 9 months ago
aaahhh! *flails* *points* Oh the Good Times
and all over one tiny glimpse of that pic of the boys & Judith...
Look I need something to hang on to okay.
Oh Olli face->palm
arthurthecaterpillar 9 months ago
Olli is being an idiot!! What a super lame move to take Christian's stuff to him and then say he doesn't want to end their relationship! What a confused message! I would never end a relationship with the love of my life over one mistake that may or may not have happened, disappointed that they are both running from really talking it out. See a couples counselor please!
randallross822 9 months ago
@randallross822 i agree with you. it's a bad move. but in retrospect, when someone is under a tremendous emotional pain, he or she may act irrationally.
redandro10 9 months ago
LOL @ the picture on the fridge of their first kiss. NOBODY WAS THERE TO TAKE THAT PICTURE WHEN THAT KISS HAPPENED HAHAHAHA
CatLvr16 9 months ago 2
I swear i'm gonna sue the writers for emotional distress!
Babyt4 9 months ago 4
@Babyt4 haha, yeah! I can't believe Olli has done this. Surely it would've been easier for him to move out rather than kick Christian out, along with ALL his belongings?
ejrobinson 9 months ago
@ejrobinson I have no clue what they are doing to our boys how long are they gonna make us suffer?
Babyt4 9 months ago
I don't understand one thing, and I would be thankefull if someone could answer me the question: Oli is trying to not break up with Chris, but why is he throwing his out of their apartment? He wants to thing about them but can't because the stuff remindes him at Chris... Whaaaaat? I don't get this... to me it seems paradox. So anyone got some hints for me?
Lockedilock 9 months ago 2
@Lockedilock Totally agree. I do not get him at ALL. And why does not he just pack the boxes under the bed? Does he really need to go to the castle with the boxes???!!! Soapland.
chobonaino 9 months ago
@chobonaino He went to the castle because he wanted to see Christian of course.
etone44 9 months ago
@Lockedilock Olli is afraid that Christian could be into woman again. He said once to Rebecca or Dana (not sure anymore who it was) that, if Christian would have had Sex with another guy, he (Olli) could fight for Christian. But he doesn´t stand a chance, if it´s a woman. Olli is really struggling with a feelings. He loves Christian, but can´t trust him anymore. So that´s why he said he needs a braek to think about their relationship.
Berlinbaer1 9 months ago
@Lockedilock Second Part of my answer: Plus they discoverd that they maybe have different goals in life. Like Olli wants to have another child, even if it´s just for a few months. But Christian doesn´t want to. Because it would be too sad for him giving the child back to their parents (or to whomsoever) one day.
Berlinbaer1 9 months ago
@Lockedilock I think the answer is that this whole storyline is handled badly, so you'd need to ask the writers what the hell is going on. Neither Olli's actions in this episode nor Christian's seemingly casual attitude about the seriousness of what he did & how it has messed up his marriage makes any sense.
sfvniceguy 9 months ago 2
thanks so much and Happy welcome May!
Cristian is so fake! I cannot endure that last weeks he had not show the least bit of love, affection, sadness and longing feelings, but when Oliver appears face to face with Cristian, he acts very affably and loving. The hypocrisy of Cristian is absolutly dissapointing, unpleasant and painfull.I am hurted with Cristian. Anyway, I hope he could make something that it could deserve his forgiven, for the moment he did not it, also he made worse it even
osofante 9 months ago
@osofante Calm down please. Christian is not being fake. We all know that Christian bottles his feelings up inside. Clearly he is suffering.
etone44 9 months ago
@etone44 I would like believe in that too, but I recall the start of this love relationship and for exemple the story with Rob, in those days Cristian was sleeping at the castle but he was awake all the night and he showed that suffered because He thought that was losing his lover. So, both situations are very distinctes,since now Cristian seems fully indifferent. Anyway I desire that they manage to solve it, but Cristian should show his remorse and the least bit of love feeling to Olliver .
osofante 9 months ago
I wish Christian would finally show at least some effort in rebuilding this relationship. I'm sick of him sitting back and waiting for Ollie to forgive him and nothing else.
luckyduck152 9 months ago 3
OMG!! MM! you're back!!!....thanks GOd!!....I was suffering all week long not knowing wut was happening!!!...thank you!!...anyways....Oli is acting so stupidly!!...to me it seems like he just wants to break up with Chrisitan....and Christian on the other hand is not putting that much of an effort to stop the separation!!!...Im sooo sad!!!
faldagirl1 9 months ago
..I don't understand the way they are behaving: at the beginning they were the "couple of the year" and now they're nothing.. they don't even talk to each other, how are they supposed to end this in a good way?? was their love just only a word?? :-(
LoSpecchioNero 9 months ago
I'm not sure but the background music at the bar always so fit to the storyline huh.... Angus and Julia Stone, sometimes I just hate you makin' me cry!!!!
bryankhoo83 9 months ago