Dynasties: The Holy Roman Empire (part3/5)

[killerbee2k]

Charlamagne didnt do anything wrong. The pagans deserved their fate for the desecreation and murder of christian monks and the destruction of the houses of God. In my country one of our founding fathers, Olav Tryggvason followed the footsteps of Charlamagne and created a united Norway of peace through steel and faith. The heathen elite die so that the majority may live in peace, a very good trade off.

[acerb45666555]

7;40.......in alot of things,(concerning pagans), Charlemaigne was no better than a Dominican Inquisitor!!

[hg15281]

Please see this website htt p ://  godsprophets. or g/ and tell me what is your opinion on the subject and Thanks

[earlcamembert2]

@luciferfromhell alright, I GUESS I'll agree, but ONLY because this your homepage video is [110916] Vita500 Vitamin Song - Yoona ver.

[KevinVancouver2]

Those moors would make good slaves in another 1000 years.

[earlcamembert2]

Kind of bummed that this narration keeps mentioning things that didn't exist like Europe and Spain.

[luciferfromhell]

@earlcamembert2 It helps us understand, I guess. Like to have an idea were they were exactly. :)

[hoiitsvanessa69]

Damn Saxons! Why won't you stay dead!

[yushadeathstar]

@hoiitsvanessa69 cause their cool

[fernandis86]

Yes, the Church has made countless mistakes. We all know that. History has already written so many pages about this. But you cannot deny that you can live without God or not know about Him. Otherwise, why do you say His name? Indeed even as this documentary explains, the Papal states are to blame for agreeing to blood shed. The Christian faith never agrees with force or by threat of conversion. Unless one agrees to convert in the faith. Please do not condemn what you do not know, especially God.

[worldcitizen4]

@fernandis86 (part one) No, the Church has not made mistakes because they had not holy intentions, they did bad things to evangelize peoples and they got it. You can not deny that if today you are a Christian is because, in the past, that religion was imposed by the power of weapons or by inferiority complex (the Romans, concerning to the science and engineering, were superior to the Germans, for example).

[worldcitizen4]

@fernandis86 (part two) Only by faith none of the actual big religions would have so many followers. So, your faith is the result of decisions made for peoples like you but that were powerful when they lived, your faith is the result of submission to the stronger!!

[13uclcly]

lol at 8:52 the sword he is holding is not of his time haha its from the 1500's and its carlos v's sword haha the things i notice when im high

[worldcitizen4]

One of the reasons that made me an atheist is the observation that I was a Christian because, in the past, that religion was imposed by the power of weapons. The same thing passed with others religions like Islam, Buddhism or Hinduism. Albeit in the beginning they founders, probably, could have had good intentions, as times goes on, they go being just an instrument to justify unjusts systems of government. Nothing can be holy and Roman at the same time.

[KenoisRob]

@worldcitizen4 So by that logic...I became a Christian since atheists like Mao and Stalin and Lenin and Robespierre and pagans like Hitler piled up a lot more bodies than the Christians ever did. Since you are a "world citizen" you may be delighted to know that many of those bodies were not of European origin. Bottom line--religion or lack thereof is not the problem. The problem is the state.

[13uclcly]

@KenoisRob and the nut cases that take religion to serious oh and yeah christians did pile up just as many bodies as any one else if not more dont forget about the crusades nigga them wars were for 100's of years and dont say "it was the catholics" cuz christians were part of the crusades aswell they are the ones who asked for knights they just didnt expect half of europe to come down and start jackin shit up

[jermainekg6]

@13uclcly wut about communism and all the communist nations who made it manditory to eliminate the belief in God/gods. Besides bible cleary says the antichrist we claim and also come in the name of God, to appear holy but at the same time persucute the really people of God, Jews and Judeo/Christians. Not my fault u cant tell the difference between Jesus's teaching and the teachings of the Church(s). Antisemitiesm clearly goes against Jesus.

[worldcitizen4]

@KenoisRob None of the persons that you said killed in the name of atheism or paganism, but in the name of their ideologies that is not simply their belief in god, however, many horrible things was made in the name of gods, for example, those that are said in this documentary: the destruction of the culture of a people. The church have been used more to separate peoples (they are infidels) than to unite them and when unites peoples is by imposing that their culture is the best.

[lirg123]

Hum... i would be fed up with Saxon Constant Rebell, i would simply massacre everyone or relocate everyone saxon through out my country.

[lafucil]

I'm showing this to all my bible thumpin' holy rolling friends...they swear "the grace of God" spread Christianity.

[HEVIPOINT]

I REMEMBER WHAT JESUS SAID IN THE BIBLE. "And suddenly, one of those who were with Jesus stretched out his hand and drew his sword, struck the servant of the high priest, and cut off his ear. Then Jesus said to him, “Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword.” (Matthew 26:51-52) very good Documentry I LOVE HISTORY.

[tropics1020]

man 4000 people beheaded, that is crazy

[Mightypeon123]

Swabia and Bavaria were both "very" mixed throughout century. Swabia saw a large amount of both internal and external warfare,  in early modern times, Wuetemberg had a dirt poor agrarian reputation.

Bavaria... Well, the Franconian and Bavarian regions had fairly significant differences, it also fluctuated greatly with the prestige of the Bavarian dukes and kings.

[Mightypeon123]

@Deepenchancer

The richest parts of Germany were:

-Hanseatic Cities (Luebeck, Bremen, Rostock, Hamburg) which partly were in the east

-The Rhine area

-(Upper) Saxony (in Southern part of East Germany)

Prussia and Brandenburg were relativly poor, but, after the Grand Elector, relativly well administered

[deepenhancer]

@Mightypeon123 What about Swabia and Bavaria?

[131313chemistry]

poor saxony... >.<

[deepenhancer]

If you look at the map of Holy Roman Empire and then you look at nowadays map of modern Europe you will notice that most developed areas of continental Europe (with exception of scandivian countries and british isles) are same areas of former Holy Roman Empire: France, western Germany (with expection of East Germany which is today poorer than south-western Germany), north-central Italy (with exeption of Mezzogiorno, which is poorer of North-central Italy) and Catalonia (richest region of Spain)

[raab155]

@deepenhancer The only reason why east-Germany is poorer than west-Germany were WW 1-2 and da fucking commies. Originaly what we today call east-germany was former Prussia. Wich was the reason why germany today is a country. Most parts of former Prussia are currently in poland. Before WW 1 it was the oposite way.

[deepenhancer]

@raab155 Yes, I know that. So before WW1 Prussia and East Germany were rich and wealthy? More than west Germany?

[raab155]

@deepenhancer At least richer than major parts of today germany. Prussia was the bigest german kindom in that time.

[raab155]

@raab155 Not in the time of carlus magnus, but during the creation of the second german empire.

[deepenhancer]

@raab155 Thank you for your explanation. 

[raab155]

@deepenhancer no problem. I thank you, for your interest.

[hybridcar]

pagans must die whether they like it or not.

For they have strayed far away from God

[EdikShepherd]

@hybridcar Are those your own words? Because it's a very dangerous gamble when you kill someone in the name of a belief that has no concrete proof for it's detailed mandates...

[EdikShepherd]

"Thou shalt not commit adultery was not a rule he took very seriously"

Hahaha, Charlemagne, you horn dog. Is it just me, or is this the case with almost every famous military leader in pre modern history?

[CroMarduk]

two battles saved Christianity, first: the battle of tours, in which Charlemagne's grandfather Charles Martel, stopped Islam conquest of Europe from Al Andalus, and the battle of Szigetvar, which stopped Ottomans and their massive army in concurring Vienna.

[AegeanKing]

@CroMarduk Try again, the Byzantines fought countless battles with the Arabs. If not for the Byzantines guarding Europes Eastern flank, The arabs would have over run Europe. 

[raab155]

@CroMarduk The Muslims tried 2 times to conquer VieNna. First time 1529 and second time 1683. So they were at least 3 battles. Should i mention that france used that Sieges to occupy Elsas-Lorraine and steal it from germans?

[Oldcartoons571]

Maybe he did mess up and just blamed the people under him...?

[eatatmargos]

adopting Northern European PAGAN practices into catholicism.... which has NOTHING to do with CHRISTIANITY!

[CroPETROforever]

that god damn saxons and basques almost cost us christianitiy battles against muslims in spain... fucking barbarians :)

[Frankcastle522]

Genius. Truly, I may not agree with him but good God this man was smart.

[HM3Johnsgirl]

I agree to this completely.

[theatchico]

murderer!

[MilitantOldLady]

7:30

be christian or die?!

fuck that! this guy wasnt a great leader, he was a bastard and a tyrant

[GaiusIuliusTaberna]

@MilitantOldLady He was being a good Christan, kill the infidel, burn the heretic, stone the homosexuals, and make life as unpleasant as humanly possible so as to avoid hell, which should be described in the most graphic detail possible to the youngest children to make sure they wouldn't even think of questioning the imposed order.

[basonparkway29]

@GaiusIuliusTaberna last think we want is people thinking for themselves

[puncheex]

@basonparkway29: Well, let's put it this way: in the absence of the technology for communications that we have today, allowing everyone to think for themselves in 800BCE would have been tantamount to no civilization at all. Without imposed order, civilization dies.

[Teranex]

saxsons own

[sunflower3540]

Excellent documentary.

[acerb45666555]

5:07.......more proof of my theory that Charlemaignes actions led directly to the involvment, years later, of pagan Scandinavian raiders hunting for christian monasteries! Vitigate was in Denmark!=Viking land!! and he told what was going on. and future generations finally were themselves pressed by missionary pressure to act! it wasnt all for plunder. it was revenge!