And too - they talk about east coast jazz and west coast jazz. Silly I think, because many migrate - move - back and forth! LOL I think it's all great. ♪
@joni4749 Yes, that's correct. You have to remember that Miles grew up in about as much a "bourgeois" environment, as you could have. He was always at the "Sidney Poiter" level, if you know what I mean :-) But don't get it twisted...this very popular era of Miles, was at least 70% attributable to the musicians he record with. If you listen closely, you'll hear how much the sax solo sounds like Mike Stern :-) Miles' "ear" never really changed...lyrical until the end.
@distress674: A farmer is someone actually out there riding a tractor and plowing the lower 40. Miles's father was a full-time dentist. On his farm he kept horses and I think he leased the use of the land to neighboring farmers in the area.
Does anyone else prefer him WITHOUT the mute? I absolutely love this recording, but that tone cuts through my skull. I literally get a headache every one of the 500 times I've listened to it.
Cannonball's intro line during the stop time at 4:53 is one of the hippest 7 seconds in jazz history. It's up there with Bird's break during A Night in Tunisia.
Miles takes you though every corner of the house on Green Dolphin Street and just when you are ready to settle down, Coltrane jumps out of the closet, and starts running up and down the stairs.
And Cannonball is in the kitchen, showing you his recipe for dolphin. (it's also a type of edible fish.) Bill Evans is out by the pool, and plays the waterfall. And they all join in....
some of these comments are so idiotic...i mean really folks..music is about emotion not color, socioeconomic status, etc etc...who cares how much money you have or what color you are or what university even that you attend...my GOD people, emotions are in us ALL... HELLO...don't you all feel moved by GOOD MUSIC? Get a grip puh leeze!
some of these comments are so idiotic...i mean really folks..music is about emotion not color, socioeconomical status, etc etc...who cares how much money you have or what color you are or what university even that you attend...my GOD people, emotions are in us ALL... HELLO...don't you all feel moved by GOOD MUSIC? Get a grip puh leeze!
@TeeKay19 Although personally I love Classical and jazz; and Marsalis and Miles are probably my trumpet gods, not everyone shares the same likes and dislikes. For example you might brown, but I might not, but rather red. Some people love Justin Beaber and Rebecca Black, some Miles and Coltrane. I think the important thing is that the few tend to be the elite. That's us :) no need to trash talk on others who aren't. Not everyone can't be at the top of the pyramid.
@AznLoLStar Hi - point taken about my trash-talking. It's just that I really get irked by people who hide behind the anonymity of the internet to trash things. If one doesn't like jazz, or whatever type of music, why go there, essentially out of one's way, just to give something a thumbs up, thumbs down, etc.? Just bugs me is all.
These beautiful musicians have been gone for some time now, and their music remains alive for those who haven't forgotten how to turn the lights off and just listen. Am elated to be one of them.
I wonder often what people really mean when they say it does not matter what race you are. It should matter. I want you to recognize my race and appreciate me for that because I enjoy being what I am and I want you to do the same and I also want to enjoy what others are. Even Miles often commented that he could tell instantly the race of a musician hearing them play. He just could. Yet he hired white muscians, so perhpas race does matter after all.......just don't mistreat anyone because of it.
I promoted Miles at the Concord Pavilion (Calif) in the early 80's. He had just come back from his "retirement". As usual, walked off stage every few minutes. Cicely Tyson was there to give him oxygen. Funny the SF Chronicle said "he wove a seemless thread from one tune to another". The SF Examiner said "he didn't even finish one song before starting the next." He walked past Freddy Hubbard coming off stage. All he said was "you play your ass off" and Freddy started to cry.
I see what you are getting at. But you are looking at it from a very narrow one sided perspective. What is truly a crime? Are speaking of Black people in America or throughout the world? Is not what the United States Government doing a crime? All the white slave owners in America were not committing crimes? Is corporate crimes nonviolent went people end up starving and dying? Come on man/women get real
I never understood why people care about melanin content in skin cells. Weird, it's like hair color. Anyway, humans are stupid apes so it does not surprise me. However, everyone knows white people swing: Art Pepper Red Rhodny Al Cohn Zoot Sims Bill Evans Bix Beiderbeck Benny Goodman Dorsey Brothers Mirislav Virtuwhadever Shelly Mann Gene Kruppa Buddy Rich man the list goes on and on. You guys who are concerned about that crap are stupid
I try to keep that moto in mind, because we all have our ups and downs- and the downs can get pretty damn nasty!
I think Miles Davis is a wonderful way to cheer you up, though! His music is so perfectly relaxing, it takes me to another era and makes me feel careless and well, happy =)
Hey, I think you are cool. I am glad you like Miles. He is one of my favorite musicians who ever lived ever! Did I say ever? I like your positivity. I get sad so because I feel like nobody cares about jazz anymore. I have dedicated my life to it and it sucks that nobody likes it anymore. Anyway thanks for existing lightenup15!!!!
Yeh but cmon. Blacks do commit more crimes than white people. Its not because of their skin of course. but your lying if you deny that on average, blacks are far more violent than white in terms of crime statistics.
@ChainsawVsGod I think it is not about black people commiting crimes, but about poor people commting crimes. We should take into account that blacks usually find themselves in the lowest social classes, so survival is much more difficult for them. Poverty is also a usual reason why they don't have the chance to get a degree and follow a career. Blacks' criminality might be major according to statistics, but I think it's a social, not a racial matter
@AakwardAardvark I agree, but I don't think we can avoid that. Wherever people get to give their opinions there will be discussion, disagreement, arguing. As long as there is no hate involved, I believe this is not a bad thing! Anyway, definately a great tune! Miles Davis is an exceptional artist!
@ChainsawVsGod The determinant of what is a crime in the US is the race of the victim. A crime against a white person is always treated seriously, no matter who the perp is. Crimes against blacks are ignored, especially if done by whites.
@seaape Actually, black on black crime, which is the vast majority of crime committed against black folks, is what is most ignored. It mostly has to do with the degenerate state of a large segment of black America created by the welfare plantation that white racist liberals like LBJ, Bobby "sheets" Byrd, Teddy "dead" Kennedy, Johnnie "I married a millionaire" Kerry, worked so hard to develop and maintain. The liberal welfare plantation for blacks is far worse than the real plantations.
@cynicalwhiteboy1 Don't forget Dave Brubeck, George Gershwin, and so many more that the names escape me. They make me want to pick up an instrument, but that is all I can do is pick it up......lololololo
@cynicalwhiteboy1 "If we were merely dealing with the law of averages, half of the events affecting our nation's well-being should be good for America. If we were dealing with mere incompetence, our leaders should occasionally make a mistake in our favor. We . . . are not dealing with coincidence or stupidity, but with planning and brilliance."
-Gary Allen, from his book None Dare Call It Conspiracy
@cynicalwhiteboy1 " I am not happy about the rebirth of the Jesuits. Swarms of them will present themselves with more disguises ever taken by even a chief of the Bohemians - as printers, writers, school teachers, etc. If ever an association of people deserved eternal damnation, on this earth and in hell, it is this Society of Loyola (1816).
@cynicalwhiteboy1 This passage is from The Companions of Jehu--page 396--"You are ninnies! I have cheated all the time we've been playing, and you never found out. Those who lost can take their money back." Born and bred in the Catholic faith, Bonaparte had no preference for any dogma. When he re-established divine worship it was done as a political act, not as a religous one.
@cynicalwhiteboy1 This passage is taken from Umberto Eco's Foucault's Pendulum page 484 chapter 93
The only society known to us capable of rivaling us in these arts is that of the Jesuits. But we have succeeded in discrediting the Jesuits in the eyes of the stupid populace, because that society is an open organization, whereas we stay in the wings, maintaning secrecy. Protocol, v
@cynicalwhiteboy1 "The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight."
Jazz is a mixture of all colors of the palate. Feelings, moods, genre's etc.. Cool jazz was my favorite. This was the epitome. You still here the swing. It morphed more at the end of the 50's and into the early sixties. Then it took a whole new approach, (Via Miles), in the late 60's and on. It is still evolving. It is Americas "Classical Music"!
But like its mood and palate, the players come in all colors shapes and sizes.
Miles' sound is music in jazz. Bill Evans is my favorite. In this era, maybe black and white still many things in between going on no see Obama like. As I am a listener, doesn't matter. Good music just listen.
Miles' sound is music in jazz. Bill Evans is my favorite. In this era, maybe black and white still many things in between going on no see Obama like. As I am a listener, doesn't matter. Good music just listen.
Miles was quoted back then as saying that he'd almost gotten a hernia trying to get some rhythm out of a couple of black cats--fortunately, he didn't identify them.
Evans, like Davis was a creator of concepts first and last, adopting late-romantic abstraction and modality and refashioning these in a jazz context. A distinctive and influential voice in jazz, subtlety is the definitive word. Inventive hard bop soloing like that of Wynton Kelly was not his metier.
I love Miles use of space in his opening and closing statements of the theme. The support behind him by evans after the into is just beautiful, and consistent throughout. Miles last note is just perfect. Thx for putting this out there!
Kind of shitty that people in past times and still current times, judge a persons ability by their color. Whatever just happened to sitting back and enjoying the music being played for you. The musicans DON'T have to play for someone, but they choose to becaus they enjoy it.
wow night and day between the posts you see on this video and some of the other crud on youtube. Its nice to see intelligent people having a civil discussion about such an intruiging subject!
no doubt--miles used the keyboard player he wanted and evans fit that mode at that time--i very rarely met a jazz musician that even considered race a factor in employing someone---theres no skin game tolerated in most art forms---its trifling and a waste of time
Race has nothing to do with it. It's all about musicianship. And all of the names mentioned were great musicians in their own right. Regardless of colour. Racism is a terrible thing wherever it directed. Besides, it is important to look at things in context. Why compare Evans to Coltrane? They played different instruments and contributed different things to their respective genres. Music is down to the individual's interpretation and preference. It's wrong to say anyone was better than another.
a few people on here are a little misunderstoond.... bill evans was a great at the piano, he didnt have the speed or agility of peterson, but what he brought to modern jazz piano is what no one else did, he reharmonised it... using voicings from impressionistic composers.... virtually every jazz pianist at the time was influenced by his way of thinking, he took jazz piano from bebop into a rich colour of sound... if you must make a comment, at least get your facts right before doing so
@slapmyfunkybass Evans did have the speed and agility of Peterson, but he rarely used it. In a few occasions on his records, evans does make several 32-notes runs flawlessly, but it just doesn't fit to his subtlely style of jazz! - That's why he doesn't use them so much, compared to what i would call the piano-machine gunners, Bud Powell and Oscar Peterson.
@Syllerud however Miles would often use Bill Evans on ballads, Down beat compositions, because he didn't wanted to "swing" as in the traditional definition of swing, like Monk, Red Garland, Peterson, Powell "swang". Bill Evans musical ideal combined more the elements of impressionistic classical music (Debussy) with jazz, which led to his own sound, best expressed with his TRIO with Scott Lafaro and Paul Motian.. see "Gloria's Step" from "Sunday at the Village Vanguard" i.e.
@Syllerud if you listen to bud powell play body and soul or autumn in new york you will hear what an all around brilliant musician powell was. you will also hear the major, usually unstated by his fans, influence of bill evans. Bill Evans, however, on many occasions credited powell with being a huge influence.
@Diomedes22 That's true. They both said in interviews that they have a huge ammount of respect for eachother. - However, they also understand and honor that they have an individual (and diffrent) style of jazz piano - If everybody played the same, then it would be borring.
Oringinally had this as anE.P. It needed to be turned over just after Coltranes solo. It was a superb introduction to this classic sextet. It did not appear on LP until a long time after this.
What is the point with skin color? I am sorry for some people's difficulty to separate the beauty of this song from their "theories" on human race. What about "mixed" ... races? God did not put any line to separate between black and white, as he did not put any frontiers between countries. Music, is also a continuum and there is no natural separating line among styles. Why build walls when bridges are necessary and natural among humans? This piece here is a perfect example. Enjoy the notes!
Just a small point: you mixed up the order of the soloists on your video. You've got photos of Cannonball Adderley during Trane's tenor solo and photos of Trane for Cannonball's alto solo
Just a small point: you mixed up the order of the soloists on your video. You've got photos of Cannonball Adderley during Trane's tenor solo and photos of Trane for Cannonball's alto solo
Just a small point: you mixed up the order of the soloists on your video. You've got photos of Cannonball Adderley during Trane's tenor solo and photos of Trane for Cannonball's alto solo
Bill Evans was sui generis. None of his successors came close. His body and hands were made for the piano, even the very thickness of his fingers. No one gets a tone that pure, rich, full, thick yet delicate. No one has left us at such a peak. "Last Waltz" and "Consecration," recorded a week before his death, go to dark, dangerous, beautiful places inaccessible to all other jazz artists then and since.
After all that Miles and Bill Evans did together it's bizarre seeing people even now still feeling prompted to comment on Bills whiteness ... I think that the real point is that Miles hired Bill Evans because he played and had ideas that Miles wanted - whether Bill was black, white, green, purple or orange ....
People who get hung up on this black/white shit aren't really listening to the music
I love this song. Billy Ekstein did a wonderful vocal of it, which, sad to say, I can't find online. But when I listen to Miles Davis, or John Coltrane doing it, all I can say is; You Tube is a blessing and thanks to whoever made them available to us.
Though he had less fame, I consider Bill Evans to be as important to jazz history as Miles Davis. His style was spare, intellectual, contemplative..nobody had ever played like that before.
@bsharporflat Yeah right. Bill Evans is not in the same category as Powell, Monk, Tatum, Peterson, or Jamal. The reason he is as famous as he is is because he is white and white people have some crazy need to elevate every white jazz artist.
@garethorchard No, I'm not joking. I'm not against white people either. Mehldau is my favorite contemporary jazz artist. I also think he's great by any standard. By they way, Mehldau also said he doesn't understand why people think Evans is so great. Evans was very good, like a lot of artists, but he was not one of the greats.
@Diomedes22 Well, it can't be proven either way. Your argument is based purely on taste...which is really the only valid way to do it. But I absolutely disagree (as does the rest of the world - and I have trouble believing this has anything to do with race). Without Bill Evans there wouldn't be a Brad Mehldau. At the very least, you should be able to admit the influence he's had on piano jazz.
@garethorchard Obviously it's subjective, but I don't think Evans has had the impact of any of the pianists I mentioned before. Also, if you listen to this version of On Greeen Dolphin Street it sums up Evans perfectly. He is wonderful with introductions. No one does it better. But what does he do for the rest of the song? How boring is his solo? He's clearly the least talented soloist here. By a very long shot.
@Diomedes22@Diomedes22 First and foremost, I feel it necessary to state that I, by all means, believe Jazz is a subjective experience - each listener has a different interpretation of the piece and is affected differently. Therefore, I think it is reasonable for you to state you do not find Bill Evans to have the "hottest" solo on this track, but stating he is the "least talented soloist here" is a gross assumption. Can you seriously defend a claim like that?
@MilesMonkMingus50 - Paul Motian had a recent interview, in the pages of Downbeat magazine. He mentioned that Bill Evans wanted him to play SOFTLY, to the point where Motian was playing with brushes, alone. So, Motian eventually QUIT Bill Evans. ... So, we still admire Bill's playing, but there were some PROBLEMS, OK?
@breadcrumbsins - True, but I don't think that Miles D, from East St. Louis, was the greatest. He mentioned that he was, somewhat intimidated by Charlie Parker/Bird ... and many of his solos are laconic and laid-back, including their lyricism. I, for one, still prefer guys like Bix, Red Allen, Roy Eldridge, Bill Coleman, Art Farmer, Buck Clayton, et. al.
@Diomedes22 What is this crazy need for blacks to put down every white jazz artist, just because they are white? You sound like a racist. Every piano player you named played in a different category from each other, and Evans was as good in his category as any of the others.
@mach37 you're obviously too stupid to read all my comments, but i said Mehldau is my favorite current jazz artist. last time i checked he was white. i could also name several other great white jazz artists, but none of them are from this era of jazz. the need to see jazz in a racist light is common among whites not blacks. that's why idiots are constantly comparing evans, getz, and desmond to parker, davis and coltrane when these two groups are clearly not in the same universe
@Diomedes22 - Stupid is as stupid does. You said 3 months ago: "The reason he is as famous as he is is because he is white and white people have some crazy need to elevate every white jazz artist."
I do not have to read ALL your comments to understand that one.
@mach37 what is your point, idiot? i said evans was a very good artist, but not a great one. the reason he is considered great, by many, is his race. and you don't need to be black or racist to believe that. as i said before mehldau got pissed off when he was getting compared to evans, instead of his real influences, and he said much the same, though in a more diplomatic way
@Diomedes22 can't stop calling others names when they disagree with you? Your logic fails- the most contradictory statement I have read from you is: "the reason he is considered great, by many, is his race. and you don't need to be black or racist to believe that."
Since you can't respond without name-calling, I won't be bothering to reply to any more of your comments.
@Diomedes22 Have you listened to any post-1960 jazz piano? Evans' influence is all over it, and that includes black musicians like Herbie and Chick. Mind telling me why this overrated white jazz pianist has had the impact he has?
@gelchert yes i have, and probably a lot more than you, since I know Chick Corea is not black. i also think Evans is in the same league with Herbie and Chick. As I said, he was a very good artist. Just below the greats like Coltrane, Davis, and Monk. In my opinion, people who elevate Evans into the same category as Coltrane and Parker do so because he is white and they need to see a white man as equal to, or often in the case of such people, better than the greatest black artists of that era
@Diomedes22 Do I have to know what color a musician's skin is in order to like him? I'll concede that Chick is not black, but your racially charged comments are out of line. I'm going to put this as bluntly as I can...just shut up and enjoy the music.
@Diomedes22 if you must contain music into colour then do so by youself, but how hollow your listening must be.... music plays colour, music does not see it.... how much you have to learn
@Diomedes22 Nobody played like Bill before Bill. Similarly, one could say the same for Davis...perhaps Coltrane. The main difference is that Bill changed the language from early on, Miles and Coltrane took a while to find their "voice". I'm an avid Davis fan, but, as a musician, Davis was not a virtuoso. What he lacked as a prolific performer, he more than made up for as an idealist, composer and band leader. Evans was, without a doubt, the most prolific jazz pianist of his time.
This 'Super Sextet' ,along w/ Miles' 2nd Quintet and Coltrane's Classic Quartet, are in my humble opinion, the Greatest Jazz Ensembles of all times..however, I dare to say that the musical chemistry produced by these six individuals, may very well be "The One".
This is by far the greatest version of the song, in my book. Sweet, haunting and beautiful.
boomerang905 1 month ago 14
this is one of my favorite jazz recordings ever. cannonball's solo is just beyond perfection haha.
BobbyKoelble 1 month ago 20
Ha ha B.B. Thanks for responding.
He was one of a kind eh? ♪
joni4749 1 month ago
MILES LIVES!!!
UMIPIANO 1 month ago
And too - they talk about east coast jazz and west coast jazz. Silly I think, because many migrate - move - back and forth! LOL I think it's all great. ♪
Was Mile's dad a Dentist? Think I heard that.
joni4749 1 month ago
@joni4749 Yes, that's correct. You have to remember that Miles grew up in about as much a "bourgeois" environment, as you could have. He was always at the "Sidney Poiter" level, if you know what I mean :-) But don't get it twisted...this very popular era of Miles, was at least 70% attributable to the musicians he record with. If you listen closely, you'll hear how much the sax solo sounds like Mike Stern :-) Miles' "ear" never really changed...lyrical until the end.
bourgeoisbrats 1 month ago
@joni4749: Yes, Miles's father was a successful East St. Louis dentist and gentleman farmer.
aarfeld 2 weeks ago
@aarfeld What's a gentleman farmer, it sounds like some sort of man pimp
distress674 1 week ago
@distress674: A farmer is someone actually out there riding a tractor and plowing the lower 40. Miles's father was a full-time dentist. On his farm he kept horses and I think he leased the use of the land to neighboring farmers in the area.
aarfeld 1 week ago
Does anyone else prefer him WITHOUT the mute? I absolutely love this recording, but that tone cuts through my skull. I literally get a headache every one of the 500 times I've listened to it.
Chrisdvc26 1 month ago
listen to this one every mornin regardless of my mood.
Rashido93 2 months ago
how can that idiot make a mistake between coltrane and cannonball, should have just changed it before u posted it!!!
mrpompos 3 months ago in playlist college songs
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sammymm7 3 months ago
the entries of these guys are just great! The truth about is that they are not even trying hard at all, its just very good effortlessly.
FinalTruthSage 3 months ago
Same ensemble as played no Kind of Blue,
jacobsimon 3 months ago
5:54-6:03 The greatest line I have ever heard. Adderley is a genius.
mbr426 4 months ago
Cannonball's intro line during the stop time at 4:53 is one of the hippest 7 seconds in jazz history. It's up there with Bird's break during A Night in Tunisia.
blaman6 4 months ago
4:03 - 4:15. Just a beast line! Excellent example of Coltrane's chromatic approach to harmony.
MrJalaf 4 months ago
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MrJalaf 4 months ago
Miles takes you though every corner of the house on Green Dolphin Street and just when you are ready to settle down, Coltrane jumps out of the closet, and starts running up and down the stairs.
And Cannonball is in the kitchen, showing you his recipe for dolphin. (it's also a type of edible fish.) Bill Evans is out by the pool, and plays the waterfall. And they all join in....
What a monumental track!
seaape 5 months ago 2
This is a nice song. I believe this is the one that set the song as a standard, though this is the first time I've listened to the song.
jjtyler21 5 months ago
some of these comments are so idiotic...i mean really folks..music is about emotion not color, socioeconomic status, etc etc...who cares how much money you have or what color you are or what university even that you attend...my GOD people, emotions are in us ALL... HELLO...don't you all feel moved by GOOD MUSIC? Get a grip puh leeze!
danielledeloresthoma 5 months ago
some of these comments are so idiotic...i mean really folks..music is about emotion not color, socioeconomical status, etc etc...who cares how much money you have or what color you are or what university even that you attend...my GOD people, emotions are in us ALL... HELLO...don't you all feel moved by GOOD MUSIC? Get a grip puh leeze!
danielledeloresthoma 5 months ago
One of the best albums to toke to.
bouncedrealitycheck 5 months ago
Why wasn't this on kind of blue? They should've recorded it again
overlordspencerman 5 months ago
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overlordspencerman 5 months ago
EVANS's Introduction so cool.
syuJazz 5 months ago
love 5:48
wachita15 5 months ago
Who are the 9 idiots who don't like this? They must belong to the faculty at Gallaudet University (no offense meant to the hearing-impaired).
TeeKay19 6 months ago
@TeeKay19 Although personally I love Classical and jazz; and Marsalis and Miles are probably my trumpet gods, not everyone shares the same likes and dislikes. For example you might brown, but I might not, but rather red. Some people love Justin Beaber and Rebecca Black, some Miles and Coltrane. I think the important thing is that the few tend to be the elite. That's us :) no need to trash talk on others who aren't. Not everyone can't be at the top of the pyramid.
AznLoLStar 5 months ago in playlist Jazz
@AznLoLStar Hi - point taken about my trash-talking. It's just that I really get irked by people who hide behind the anonymity of the internet to trash things. If one doesn't like jazz, or whatever type of music, why go there, essentially out of one's way, just to give something a thumbs up, thumbs down, etc.? Just bugs me is all.
TeeKay19 5 months ago
@TeeKay19 yup it is really annoying, but we gotta deal with it. Not everyone is partof the elite like you and I. :)
AznLoLStar 5 months ago
How about listening to the music? and shut the fuck up about black and white people.
Cliffs0fDover 6 months ago
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These beautiful musicians have been gone for some time now, and their music remains alive for those who haven't forgotten how to turn the lights off and just listen. Am elated to be one of them.
DaveVelo1 6 months ago
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DaveVelo1 6 months ago
I wonder often what people really mean when they say it does not matter what race you are. It should matter. I want you to recognize my race and appreciate me for that because I enjoy being what I am and I want you to do the same and I also want to enjoy what others are. Even Miles often commented that he could tell instantly the race of a musician hearing them play. He just could. Yet he hired white muscians, so perhpas race does matter after all.......just don't mistreat anyone because of it.
astonehunter 6 months ago
I promoted Miles at the Concord Pavilion (Calif) in the early 80's. He had just come back from his "retirement". As usual, walked off stage every few minutes. Cicely Tyson was there to give him oxygen. Funny the SF Chronicle said "he wove a seemless thread from one tune to another". The SF Examiner said "he didn't even finish one song before starting the next." He walked past Freddy Hubbard coming off stage. All he said was "you play your ass off" and Freddy started to cry.
MellowMrMike 7 months ago
I see what you are getting at. But you are looking at it from a very narrow one sided perspective. What is truly a crime? Are speaking of Black people in America or throughout the world? Is not what the United States Government doing a crime? All the white slave owners in America were not committing crimes? Is corporate crimes nonviolent went people end up starving and dying? Come on man/women get real
cynicalwhiteboy1 7 months ago
cynicalwhiteboy1 8 months ago
@cynicalwhiteboy1 I do agree with you that racism is ridiculous, but "humans are stupid apes"? What are you, an alien?
lightenup15 8 months ago
Of course I am not an alien! Only a stupid ape would make such a ridiculous statement... :)))
cynicalwhiteboy1 8 months ago
@cynicalwhiteboy1 Oh damn, you got me figured out =]
lightenup15 8 months ago
@lightenup15 - I do like your name and should lighten up. I feel like an alien most of the time. Even though I have normal DNA, I think...
cynicalwhiteboy1 8 months ago
@cynicalwhiteboy1 Thank you =)
I try to keep that moto in mind, because we all have our ups and downs- and the downs can get pretty damn nasty!
I think Miles Davis is a wonderful way to cheer you up, though! His music is so perfectly relaxing, it takes me to another era and makes me feel careless and well, happy =)
lightenup15 7 months ago
@lightenup15
Hey, I think you are cool. I am glad you like Miles. He is one of my favorite musicians who ever lived ever! Did I say ever? I like your positivity. I get sad so because I feel like nobody cares about jazz anymore. I have dedicated my life to it and it sucks that nobody likes it anymore. Anyway thanks for existing lightenup15!!!!
cynicalwhiteboy1 7 months ago
@cynicalwhiteboy1 Rest assured, my friend, jazz lives! It might not be on MTV, but that doesn't mean that nobody cares about it! =)
lightenup15 7 months ago
@cynicalwhiteboy1
Yeh but cmon. Blacks do commit more crimes than white people. Its not because of their skin of course. but your lying if you deny that on average, blacks are far more violent than white in terms of crime statistics.
ChainsawVsGod 7 months ago
@ChainsawVsGod I think it is not about black people commiting crimes, but about poor people commting crimes. We should take into account that blacks usually find themselves in the lowest social classes, so survival is much more difficult for them. Poverty is also a usual reason why they don't have the chance to get a degree and follow a career. Blacks' criminality might be major according to statistics, but I think it's a social, not a racial matter
lightenup15 7 months ago 2
@lightenup15 very well put. its too bad the talk has disintegrated into this on this video though :( great tune!
AakwardAardvark 3 months ago
@AakwardAardvark I agree, but I don't think we can avoid that. Wherever people get to give their opinions there will be discussion, disagreement, arguing. As long as there is no hate involved, I believe this is not a bad thing! Anyway, definately a great tune! Miles Davis is an exceptional artist!
lightenup15 3 months ago
@ChainsawVsGod The determinant of what is a crime in the US is the race of the victim. A crime against a white person is always treated seriously, no matter who the perp is. Crimes against blacks are ignored, especially if done by whites.
seaape 5 months ago
@seaape Actually, black on black crime, which is the vast majority of crime committed against black folks, is what is most ignored. It mostly has to do with the degenerate state of a large segment of black America created by the welfare plantation that white racist liberals like LBJ, Bobby "sheets" Byrd, Teddy "dead" Kennedy, Johnnie "I married a millionaire" Kerry, worked so hard to develop and maintain. The liberal welfare plantation for blacks is far worse than the real plantations.
ALTERED13TH 4 months ago
@cynicalwhiteboy1 Don't forget Dave Brubeck, George Gershwin, and so many more that the names escape me. They make me want to pick up an instrument, but that is all I can do is pick it up......lololololo
CandyG517
CandyG517 5 months ago
@cynicalwhiteboy1 I completely agree, but your name is just so ironic
MatterhornVore 4 months ago
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@cynicalwhiteboy1 "If we were merely dealing with the law of averages, half of the events affecting our nation's well-being should be good for America. If we were dealing with mere incompetence, our leaders should occasionally make a mistake in our favor. We . . . are not dealing with coincidence or stupidity, but with planning and brilliance."
-Gary Allen, from his book None Dare Call It Conspiracy
countdumas 3 months ago
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@cynicalwhiteboy1 " I am not happy about the rebirth of the Jesuits. Swarms of them will present themselves with more disguises ever taken by even a chief of the Bohemians - as printers, writers, school teachers, etc. If ever an association of people deserved eternal damnation, on this earth and in hell, it is this Society of Loyola (1816).
--John Adams
countdumas 3 months ago
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@cynicalwhiteboy1 'Alas, I knew they(i.e, The Jesuits) would poison me; but I did not except to die in so slow a cruel manner.'(1774)
-Pope Clement XIV (who had 'forever' abolished The Jesuit Order in 1773)
countdumas 3 months ago
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@cynicalwhiteboy1 This passage is from The Companions of Jehu--page 396--"You are ninnies! I have cheated all the time we've been playing, and you never found out. Those who lost can take their money back." Born and bred in the Catholic faith, Bonaparte had no preference for any dogma. When he re-established divine worship it was done as a political act, not as a religous one.
countdumas 3 months ago
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@cynicalwhiteboy1 This passage is taken from Umberto Eco's Foucault's Pendulum page 484 chapter 93
The only society known to us capable of rivaling us in these arts is that of the Jesuits. But we have succeeded in discrediting the Jesuits in the eyes of the stupid populace, because that society is an open organization, whereas we stay in the wings, maintaning secrecy. Protocol, v
countdumas 3 months ago
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@cynicalwhiteboy1 "The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight."
~JFK
countdumas 3 months ago
@cynicalwhiteboy1 a little man named...phil woods
dfmutant4488 3 months ago
@cynicalwhiteboy1 but ya agreed its all about music man skin or hair color has nothing to do with anything of the matter
dfmutant4488 3 months ago
@cynicalwhiteboy1 Paul Desmond
StonierWilliam 2 months ago
@cynicalwhiteboy1 Can't forget Dave Brubeck
ZachmLewis 1 month ago
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Jazz is a mixture of all colors of the palate. Feelings, moods, genre's etc.. Cool jazz was my favorite. This was the epitome. You still here the swing. It morphed more at the end of the 50's and into the early sixties. Then it took a whole new approach, (Via Miles), in the late 60's and on. It is still evolving. It is Americas "Classical Music"!
But like its mood and palate, the players come in all colors shapes and sizes.
brwnhornet59 8 months ago
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cynicalwhiteboy1 8 months ago
Wonderful video slideshow. Great music of Miles and Bill Evans rounding out the classic ensemble. Refreshing. Thanks for sharing....JT
jttrumpet55 8 months ago
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Miles' sound is music in jazz. Bill Evans is my favorite. In this era, maybe black and white still many things in between going on no see Obama like. As I am a listener, doesn't matter. Good music just listen.
eddymasao1 8 months ago
Miles' sound is music in jazz. Bill Evans is my favorite. In this era, maybe black and white still many things in between going on no see Obama like. As I am a listener, doesn't matter. Good music just listen.
eddymasao1 8 months ago
music is not a sport, it isn't who plays the fastest, its whether the song sounds good, i don't know much but i know i like this
beniceokay 8 months ago
Miles was quoted back then as saying that he'd almost gotten a hernia trying to get some rhythm out of a couple of black cats--fortunately, he didn't identify them.
pindaric 8 months ago
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Why cant anyone do anything without you people brining up race ?
NonRace 9 months ago
Imagine this live! Like Heaven on Earth :D
uprightbassmatt 9 months ago
Evans, like Davis was a creator of concepts first and last, adopting late-romantic abstraction and modality and refashioning these in a jazz context. A distinctive and influential voice in jazz, subtlety is the definitive word. Inventive hard bop soloing like that of Wynton Kelly was not his metier.
pierstheoneandonly 9 months ago
A sweet echo from the irretrievable past.
bronxboy47 10 months ago 2
for me this is the best version.
daffy5760 10 months ago 2
I love Miles use of space in his opening and closing statements of the theme. The support behind him by evans after the into is just beautiful, and consistent throughout. Miles last note is just perfect. Thx for putting this out there!
wdbop3 10 months ago
already knew that was john bc of his tone
allforch17 10 months ago
I didn't know music was a color.
Kind of shitty that people in past times and still current times, judge a persons ability by their color. Whatever just happened to sitting back and enjoying the music being played for you. The musicans DON'T have to play for someone, but they choose to becaus they enjoy it.
Deetroiter 10 months ago
Bill Evans is a far superior piano player/songwriter than most others of his time, I lol at the noobs who could not recognize his talent.
JBT24 11 months ago 2
@JBT24 haha, i lol at the noobs, :-)
Syllerud 9 months ago
Conjunction of stars!!
Startac2007 11 months ago
It's just that jazz makes me feel...
smooth blue brass
flying in the air
feeling like the grass
its such unfair
jazz...
your flying finger kiss the keys
the music bleeds from the brass
in notes as clear as glass...
2UIROGA 11 months ago
HAHAHA lol pedophile
iatelilwayne 11 months ago
Miles Davis = Mozart of Jazz. Hundreds of years from now, providing we still exist, they'll be playing Mr. Davis.
AlaskanSheilah 11 months ago
"nice"............. brakes all boundaries
aloha
doggie16898 11 months ago
wow night and day between the posts you see on this video and some of the other crud on youtube. Its nice to see intelligent people having a civil discussion about such an intruiging subject!
zonelad 11 months ago
no doubt--miles used the keyboard player he wanted and evans fit that mode at that time--i very rarely met a jazz musician that even considered race a factor in employing someone---theres no skin game tolerated in most art forms---its trifling and a waste of time
EMCEMITCH 11 months ago 2
@EMCEMITCH be fortunate that you live today, when more people see it your way.
scj0033 11 months ago
Race has nothing to do with it. It's all about musicianship. And all of the names mentioned were great musicians in their own right. Regardless of colour. Racism is a terrible thing wherever it directed. Besides, it is important to look at things in context. Why compare Evans to Coltrane? They played different instruments and contributed different things to their respective genres. Music is down to the individual's interpretation and preference. It's wrong to say anyone was better than another.
EyeballX1 11 months ago 2
@EyeballX1 an excellent point. Jazz is an extremely personal form of music, where interpretation and preference are amongst the key features.
renegadefilmproject 11 months ago
a few people on here are a little misunderstoond.... bill evans was a great at the piano, he didnt have the speed or agility of peterson, but what he brought to modern jazz piano is what no one else did, he reharmonised it... using voicings from impressionistic composers.... virtually every jazz pianist at the time was influenced by his way of thinking, he took jazz piano from bebop into a rich colour of sound... if you must make a comment, at least get your facts right before doing so
slapmyfunkybass 11 months ago 2
@slapmyfunkybass Evans did have the speed and agility of Peterson, but he rarely used it. In a few occasions on his records, evans does make several 32-notes runs flawlessly, but it just doesn't fit to his subtlely style of jazz! - That's why he doesn't use them so much, compared to what i would call the piano-machine gunners, Bud Powell and Oscar Peterson.
Syllerud 9 months ago
@Syllerud however Miles would often use Bill Evans on ballads, Down beat compositions, because he didn't wanted to "swing" as in the traditional definition of swing, like Monk, Red Garland, Peterson, Powell "swang". Bill Evans musical ideal combined more the elements of impressionistic classical music (Debussy) with jazz, which led to his own sound, best expressed with his TRIO with Scott Lafaro and Paul Motian.. see "Gloria's Step" from "Sunday at the Village Vanguard" i.e.
Syllerud 9 months ago
@Syllerud if you listen to bud powell play body and soul or autumn in new york you will hear what an all around brilliant musician powell was. you will also hear the major, usually unstated by his fans, influence of bill evans. Bill Evans, however, on many occasions credited powell with being a huge influence.
Diomedes22 9 months ago
@Diomedes22 That's true. They both said in interviews that they have a huge ammount of respect for eachother. - However, they also understand and honor that they have an individual (and diffrent) style of jazz piano - If everybody played the same, then it would be borring.
Syllerud 9 months ago
@Syllerud you missed the entire point. nevermind
Diomedes22 9 months ago
@Diomedes22 C'mon, tell it to me good sir.
Syllerud 9 months ago
Oringinally had this as anE.P. It needed to be turned over just after Coltranes solo. It was a superb introduction to this classic sextet. It did not appear on LP until a long time after this.
ohyeah1959 11 months ago
What is the point with skin color? I am sorry for some people's difficulty to separate the beauty of this song from their "theories" on human race. What about "mixed" ... races? God did not put any line to separate between black and white, as he did not put any frontiers between countries. Music, is also a continuum and there is no natural separating line among styles. Why build walls when bridges are necessary and natural among humans? This piece here is a perfect example. Enjoy the notes!
typoque 11 months ago
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Just a small point: you mixed up the order of the soloists on your video. You've got photos of Cannonball Adderley during Trane's tenor solo and photos of Trane for Cannonball's alto solo
icecreamforcrowhurst 1 year ago
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Just a small point: you mixed up the order of the soloists on your video. You've got photos of Cannonball Adderley during Trane's tenor solo and photos of Trane for Cannonball's alto solo
icecreamforcrowhurst 1 year ago
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Just a small point: you mixed up the order of the soloists on your video. You've got photos of Cannonball Adderley during Trane's tenor solo and photos of Trane for Cannonball's alto solo
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icecreamforcrowhurst 1 year ago
Thank you.
blues4never 1 year ago
this is probably my favorite in the fifties miles genre along with so what
EMCEMITCH 1 year ago
Bill Evans was sui generis. None of his successors came close. His body and hands were made for the piano, even the very thickness of his fingers. No one gets a tone that pure, rich, full, thick yet delicate. No one has left us at such a peak. "Last Waltz" and "Consecration," recorded a week before his death, go to dark, dangerous, beautiful places inaccessible to all other jazz artists then and since.
caponsacchi 1 year ago
Bill Evans was a great pianist. Good on Miles for having him in the band.
walkabou5 1 year ago
It's coooooooool
Startac2007 1 year ago
YouTube is a Godsend!
tonygumbrell22 1 year ago
jazz olympus
avelizosorio 1 year ago
thank you very much friends for your music
Startac2007 1 year ago
lol, when Coltrane plays there are pictures of Adderley and when Adderley plays there are pictures of Coltrane
michalskij 1 year ago
After all that Miles and Bill Evans did together it's bizarre seeing people even now still feeling prompted to comment on Bills whiteness ... I think that the real point is that Miles hired Bill Evans because he played and had ideas that Miles wanted - whether Bill was black, white, green, purple or orange ....
People who get hung up on this black/white shit aren't really listening to the music
Blackgeoff1 1 year ago 51
@Blackgeoff1 Well stated. Miles himself said something similar when the topic came up.
gelchert 1 year ago
Jazz
snorlax203 1 year ago
What is that red bubble right under the video next to the pop out button??
ThermalHD 1 year ago
@ThermalHD it displays the comments that the person who posted this video put in. when its red the comments pop up on the video.
ejp5485 1 year ago
My fav is the trane
rockyscarlet 1 year ago
I'd pay hundreds to see this played live by all of these legends :)
DehE1337 1 year ago
Wait.....Why did you change it to another picture of Cannonball while Coltrane was still soloing?
Vitruvian42 1 year ago
This is PAST fantastic .....millions of stars and also galaxies!
Mamasan41 1 year ago
Bill evans, the only white man miles davis hired up until this time, no from this world for sure.
akira523 1 year ago
I love this song. Billy Ekstein did a wonderful vocal of it, which, sad to say, I can't find online. But when I listen to Miles Davis, or John Coltrane doing it, all I can say is; You Tube is a blessing and thanks to whoever made them available to us.
tonygumbrell22 1 year ago
dude how could anybody dislike this video???? the original quintet is one of the greatest musical collectives to come out of history.
tkdmaster3bd 1 year ago
evans is the bomb! no one has touched him yet with the possible exception of jarrett...
ponchocervantes 1 year ago
Evans Miles Cannonball Coltrane Chambers Cobb = match made in heaven
flippenpinoi 1 year ago
I love the times when coltrane used to ride with davis, they made a very perfect duo; joined by the music...
2UIROGA 1 year ago
Arguably the best recording of this song. Adderley sounds so, well, Adderley. that's good.
terrryc 1 year ago
'I could kiss the ground on Green Dolphin Street.'
Goodnightdingding 1 year ago
Why.don't.you.just.close.your.eyes.and.let.them.be.the.deciding.factors.....so.tired.of.all.this.race.crap....talent.is.talent...music.belongs.to.us.all.....kind.of.like.God.you.know!!!!
Jazsngr 1 year ago
5:30 - 5:35 are AMAZING!
Thanks for this video.
jwright123456789 1 year ago
TO JEST TO !!!!!
andrzejpawlowski 1 year ago
I love Bill's playing and believe that some of his finest work was with Miles. I'd have liked to have heard him do more with Philly Joe Jones too.
heru1966 1 year ago
Bill Evans, the greatest
and Miles, the other greatest
supahsekzy 1 year ago
Actually man, that's Jimmy Cobb on the drums, Not Johnny. That cat is a master of
machinevsfascist 1 year ago
the speech bubbles were entertaining lol
Philc103 1 year ago
Though he had less fame, I consider Bill Evans to be as important to jazz history as Miles Davis. His style was spare, intellectual, contemplative..nobody had ever played like that before.
bsharporflat 1 year ago
@bsharporflat Yeah right. Bill Evans is not in the same category as Powell, Monk, Tatum, Peterson, or Jamal. The reason he is as famous as he is is because he is white and white people have some crazy need to elevate every white jazz artist.
Diomedes22 1 year ago
@Diomedes22
idiot.
inthegarage53 1 year ago
@Diomedes22 are you joking!?
garethorchard 1 year ago
@garethorchard No, I'm not joking. I'm not against white people either. Mehldau is my favorite contemporary jazz artist. I also think he's great by any standard. By they way, Mehldau also said he doesn't understand why people think Evans is so great. Evans was very good, like a lot of artists, but he was not one of the greats.
Diomedes22 1 year ago
@Diomedes22 Well, it can't be proven either way. Your argument is based purely on taste...which is really the only valid way to do it. But I absolutely disagree (as does the rest of the world - and I have trouble believing this has anything to do with race). Without Bill Evans there wouldn't be a Brad Mehldau. At the very least, you should be able to admit the influence he's had on piano jazz.
garethorchard 1 year ago
@garethorchard Obviously it's subjective, but I don't think Evans has had the impact of any of the pianists I mentioned before. Also, if you listen to this version of On Greeen Dolphin Street it sums up Evans perfectly. He is wonderful with introductions. No one does it better. But what does he do for the rest of the song? How boring is his solo? He's clearly the least talented soloist here. By a very long shot.
Diomedes22 1 year ago
@Diomedes22 Agree to disagree. You hear boring. I hear a mastery of subtlety and restraint.
garethorchard 1 year ago
@Diomedes22 @Diomedes22 First and foremost, I feel it necessary to state that I, by all means, believe Jazz is a subjective experience - each listener has a different interpretation of the piece and is affected differently. Therefore, I think it is reasonable for you to state you do not find Bill Evans to have the "hottest" solo on this track, but stating he is the "least talented soloist here" is a gross assumption. Can you seriously defend a claim like that?
nomirran 1 year ago
Evans many coves of Gershwin is a thing of beauty. Give "My Man's Gone Now" a listen.
Bill Evans is a monster. He has influenced Herbie Hancock and many others. Had he not been around, we would have never had "Blue in Green."
Evans' influences go beyond the piano.
MilesMonkMingus50 1 year ago
@MilesMonkMingus50 - Paul Motian had a recent interview, in the pages of Downbeat magazine. He mentioned that Bill Evans wanted him to play SOFTLY, to the point where Motian was playing with brushes, alone. So, Motian eventually QUIT Bill Evans. ... So, we still admire Bill's playing, but there were some PROBLEMS, OK?
jhb134 1 year ago
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breadcrumbsins 1 year ago
@jhb134 Miles did the same thing with Jimmy Cobb during the "Kind of Blue" sessions. That was cool with Jimmy. You don't argue with a genius.
breadcrumbsins 1 year ago
@breadcrumbsins - True, but I don't think that Miles D, from East St. Louis, was the greatest. He mentioned that he was, somewhat intimidated by Charlie Parker/Bird ... and many of his solos are laconic and laid-back, including their lyricism. I, for one, still prefer guys like Bix, Red Allen, Roy Eldridge, Bill Coleman, Art Farmer, Buck Clayton, et. al.
jhb134 1 year ago
@MilesMonkMingus50 he completly destroys and rebuilds tunes i dont know if i would call them covers. I agree with you.
FLCL2010 1 year ago
@Diomedes22 What is this crazy need for blacks to put down every white jazz artist, just because they are white? You sound like a racist. Every piano player you named played in a different category from each other, and Evans was as good in his category as any of the others.
mach37 1 year ago
@mach37 you're obviously too stupid to read all my comments, but i said Mehldau is my favorite current jazz artist. last time i checked he was white. i could also name several other great white jazz artists, but none of them are from this era of jazz. the need to see jazz in a racist light is common among whites not blacks. that's why idiots are constantly comparing evans, getz, and desmond to parker, davis and coltrane when these two groups are clearly not in the same universe
Diomedes22 1 year ago
@Diomedes22 - Stupid is as stupid does. You said 3 months ago: "The reason he is as famous as he is is because he is white and white people have some crazy need to elevate every white jazz artist."
I do not have to read ALL your comments to understand that one.
mach37 1 year ago
@mach37 what is your point, idiot? i said evans was a very good artist, but not a great one. the reason he is considered great, by many, is his race. and you don't need to be black or racist to believe that. as i said before mehldau got pissed off when he was getting compared to evans, instead of his real influences, and he said much the same, though in a more diplomatic way
Diomedes22 1 year ago
@Diomedes22 can't stop calling others names when they disagree with you? Your logic fails- the most contradictory statement I have read from you is: "the reason he is considered great, by many, is his race. and you don't need to be black or racist to believe that."
Since you can't respond without name-calling, I won't be bothering to reply to any more of your comments.
mach37 1 year ago
@Diomedes22 Just a very sad comment. Bill Evans was a great pianist. Colour has nothing to with it.
walkabou5 1 year ago
@Diomedes22 Have you listened to any post-1960 jazz piano? Evans' influence is all over it, and that includes black musicians like Herbie and Chick. Mind telling me why this overrated white jazz pianist has had the impact he has?
gelchert 1 year ago
@gelchert yes i have, and probably a lot more than you, since I know Chick Corea is not black. i also think Evans is in the same league with Herbie and Chick. As I said, he was a very good artist. Just below the greats like Coltrane, Davis, and Monk. In my opinion, people who elevate Evans into the same category as Coltrane and Parker do so because he is white and they need to see a white man as equal to, or often in the case of such people, better than the greatest black artists of that era
Diomedes22 1 year ago
@Diomedes22 Do I have to know what color a musician's skin is in order to like him? I'll concede that Chick is not black, but your racially charged comments are out of line. I'm going to put this as bluntly as I can...just shut up and enjoy the music.
gelchert 1 year ago
@Diomedes22 if you must contain music into colour then do so by youself, but how hollow your listening must be.... music plays colour, music does not see it.... how much you have to learn
slapmyfunkybass 11 months ago
@Diomedes22 Nobody played like Bill before Bill. Similarly, one could say the same for Davis...perhaps Coltrane. The main difference is that Bill changed the language from early on, Miles and Coltrane took a while to find their "voice". I'm an avid Davis fan, but, as a musician, Davis was not a virtuoso. What he lacked as a prolific performer, he more than made up for as an idealist, composer and band leader. Evans was, without a doubt, the most prolific jazz pianist of his time.
ThisIDig 11 months ago
@Diomedes22 well not too many pianists can measure up to Powell, Monk, or Jamal. those are extremely high standards
snubbs741 9 months ago
intro = nailed
bobjimjones 1 year ago 10
Happy Birthday, Miles
MrRhickok1109 1 year ago
This 'Super Sextet' ,along w/ Miles' 2nd Quintet and Coltrane's Classic Quartet, are in my humble opinion, the Greatest Jazz Ensembles of all times..however, I dare to say that the musical chemistry produced by these six individuals, may very well be "The One".
egyptianminor 1 year ago
Philly Joe Jones on drums right?
macewindu67 1 year ago
@macewindu67
No mate, thats Johnny Cobb...
DAVO1984FI 1 year ago
@DAVO1984FI *Jimmy
BlackHammondB3 1 year ago
@DAVO1984FI Jimmy Cobb
MrBerenstain 1 year ago
@DAVO1984FI
No mate, That's JIMMY Cobb
crazyoldbastard 1 year ago
@DAVO1984FI
No Mate, That's Jimmy Cobb
crazyoldbastard 1 year ago