Tip #19 - Sidechaining Part 2 - Logic Studio Tips

[7FiveFamily7]

does this work with usb direct micorphones? cause my vocoder isn't making any weird sounds when I speak.

[lmbonapart]

I Saw The Cloverfield Monster (Tonight).

[petedako]

Thank you!  Excellent excellent video!

[JerraMai]

AWESOME VIDEO! really well spoken and easy to understand and follow :D

[julianh100]

WAT MIC DO YOU USE? i would love to know :)

[blue2397]

@SFLogicNinja do you always bow?

[luciferisonfire]

you sir are an absolute LEGEND

[timcharper1]

This was super fun!

[jayt80]

Just another tip if this is not working for you training ninja's out there. Ensure u have "software monitoring" ON if u want to hear the vocoder whilst playing the keyboard and singing. You can turn this on by going to Preferences > Audio > Devices and tick "Software Monitoring". U can also customize the transport bar 2 have a button to turn it on and off. Right click the transport bar and choose Customize Transport Bar and under modes and functions tick Software monitoring to get the icon.

[tred1975]

thanks

[ruuku00black]

lol "i saw the cloverfield, monster... i saw the cloverfield monster, tonight" awsome.

[justforvideos1000]

I'm still waiting for the full version of I Saw The Cloverfield Monster (Tonight).

[TheDevastator]

you saw the cloverfield monster tonight

[nblfyb]

Wow, that was awesome. So, that's how Imogen Heap did it for that Hide and Seek song :D So, one has to play notes for the vocoder to kick in on the vocal? I'll keep watching.. Thanks.

{Benson and Tonic}

[djjackb07]

mrbm1619

thats cool im studying at SAE Liverpool, England. hope all is well

thanks for these superb quality tutorials, im new to logic and these have been a great help

[vincejap]

are there any easy guide books for logic studio available (like the one for final cut studio) especially for beginners

[fabriquesilver]

thanks a lot man :) gr8 videos

[djmigra]

AAAAAARG!!!! I Urgently need lots of Logic Pro tutorials on DVD, I'm too damn married with Ableton Live but I want to learn Logic!!!!!

[AllyKiss18]

Your the best!

[mrbm1619]

dude im doing a course at S A E in New zealand and your tutorials are a big help....keep up the good work

[M3sslah]

Excuse but in this particular demo I can't really hear what you are doing. You mean that loop is making the vocoded voice duck? But it is very hard to hear so I don't really know what you did. Was the idea to make the voice pulsate to the kickdrum like in the previous video because it doesn't.

I will try it out myself though, and thanks for all tutorials, they are of great help. I just got logic and WOW, I don't even know why I waited so long and struggled with other DAW's.

[ozzlanda]

sidechaining does not simply mean making a signal pulsate to a kick, this is just a very popular method, used typically in dance genre's. What he's doing here is, instead of using the kick as a trigger for a compressor side chain, he's using his voice as a trigger for a vocoder sidechain, so when he speaks, the track his voice is recorded on is fed to a processor (vocoder) and modulated accordingly. Pretty simple really. The buss is set to pre so the signal is taken before the volume fader.

[edipo1977]

Amazing video like all your other tuts, but in this one I don't understand the third example of sidechaining , the one with exs24..please ninja...ciao....

[wisteria310787]

Awesome videos dude, especially this one.

I've been a silent fan for a long time, no longer :-p

Peace...

[axxed334]

Thanx so much for these videos..one question are busses and auxilaries the same thing? If not then what's the difference? This has really got me confused.. thanx again for the videos

[Munki6]

In real life, a bus is a cable, so when you send shit on it, your signal travels to where it's connected to(preferably an aux), so it's the path for your signal travels on. An aux is a channel that is separate from the mix, but works alongside it if you get me.

[axxed334]

thanx :)

[brusexuelles]

YES !! thank you for the help, now it works how i want it to work.

brillant!

from berlin,

elias.

[brusexuelles]

hey ninja,

i have the same problem as PicnicKibun had 4 months ago..:

I can get the vocoder to work but it's very soft and it doesn't "kill" the mic sound completely so you can always hear the original voice in the background which is annoying.

ninja, please help!

my voice: always there. no chance to mute it by turning down the volume. always there, always loud. vocoder: always too low.

so what is wrong here??

thanky for helping,

you are a good friend:-)

[SFLogicNinja]

When you create the bus, it automatically creates an aux that the bus is assigned to.

Go to the aux, and turn it's output to 'no output'

You were hearing the vocoder and the aux at the same time.

*bows*

[enitzirk]

@brusexuelles Hi, I had the same issue, and although what ninja said fixed the loud voice, it doesnt seem to help the problem that the vocoder is extremely quiet :( i have to crank it up to maximum volume and turn up my speakers just to hear it...could you work it out in the end?

[enitzirk]

@brusexuelles Hi, I had the same issue, but although what ninja said fixed the loud voice, it doesnt seem to help the problem that the vocoder is extremely quiet :( i have to crank it up to maximum volume and turn up my speakers just to hear it...could you work it out in the end?

[xDYLxDYLx]

best videos on youtube!

[wisesire]

thanks for that. its in my head for good now

[19Nick80webb]

im lost for words lol exellent :-)

[bayse]

can't stop singin'. i saw the cloverfield monster...

the tutorial is very helpful, as always

big up mr. earl

[niclashbg]

hahahah you are so damn good " i saw the cloverfieldmonster, i saw the cloverfieldmonster tonight" haha:P 5 stars from sweden.

[deejay323]

holy crap that's bad ass!

this reminds me of 1 of armen van buurens song!

[misteremagic]

hi dave, i have tried several time with the same setup but nothing happen if i hold the keyboard / noted and talking into my mic :I help and many thanks . cheers from hong kong.

[PicnicKibun]

Thanks for the tutorial. Two points:

1. I can get the vocoder to work but it's very soft and it doesn't "kill" the mic sound completely so you can always hear the original voice in the background which is annoying. Any tips?

2. How would you set this up for a live scenario for Mainstage?

[donniemullins]

I am in the same boat as philly2dabay before he turned up the track volume, except mine is all the way up...

Any thoughts?

I'm using the capslock midi keyboard and internal mic, but that shouldn't make a difference (just playing...was having trouble with my interface).

Anythoughts? I've successfully used sidechaining before and the setup is pretty straight forward....at a loss.

[iheartsedric]

Do you have your bus track send for the vocoder turned up on the channel strip of your vocals?

I was having a similar problem and then I noticed that I hadn't turned up the signal from the vocal channel strip to the bus. I just had to drag the little green wheel and turn up the send.

[donniemullins]

Like philly2dabay, I have gone through this several times and I get nothing...just my normal voice. I am holding down with the computer midi keyboard up, I have it sidechained properly....volume is up on both tracks. I'm hearing nothing when I play the vocoder alone, which is how it's supposed to be. But when I play the midi keyboard and talk, I just get my normal voice. I'm a bit at a loss. Anyone?

[philly2dabay]

Okay so I'm gonna look like an ass now. I turned up the volume on the vocoder track and i finally heard it. By the way, keep up the great work SF NInja. Your videos are really helpful.

[philly2dabay]

I chose Clear Voice Vocoder from the prelist. VOC is selected, not SYN. Any other suggestions?

[philly2dabay]

i've watched this video about 10 times, followed every direction, and the vocoder is still not working for me. I hold down the keys and speak into my mic....but i hear no effect. ????? im confused

[SFLogicNinja]

I think you should use your exact setup again, but Choose a preset for vocoding from the list. There are a coupl eof other things you might do.... check that at the right side of the vocoder it doesn't say 'SYN', but 'VOC'

*bows*

[KDN322]

hey do you use a mic or one built in in your computer

if you read this can you explain your set up for me thanks

[OmertaTV]

Dave,

You've received countless thank you comments and messages, but I have to send one as well. Thank you so much for creatively explaining these things in a logical manner. I am a guitarist/singer/songwriter with a modest home studio, and after watching your videos, I am very glad that I chose Logic Studio over other popular DAW's.

Thanks so much for the fantastic information, you are incredibely inspiring.

Joey Ariemma

[canufeelbass]

"i saw the cloverfield monster!

i saw the cloverfield monster!

... tonight!"

lmao! nice vid dave

[thentherewas]

very helpful, thanks.

[richardolatunde]

potentially very boring, but you made it excellent!

[Natashadoingit]

Hey SfLogicninja

So really you could have set the output to bus1 of the track that you recorded your voice on, but because we were listening to your commentary you used the bus 1 as a send...

Just trying to get it all into my head, the different ways of sending signals. Food for thought!!

[PreacherofArrakeen]

I like traffic lights, although my name's not 'Bamber.' lol! Interesting stuff. I am just learning Logic. It is a fascinating program, and your tutorials are very helpful.

[vobanola]

putin on voit tout le temps cette gueule partout sal moche!!!! good

[Audiosyncratic100]

why do you say good??? thats a bad statement/..

[Jean5tar]

can u do this with the built in mac pro mic?

[mayfire]

Your tutorials are really great man, and very fun to watch. You explain things vera logical. I wonder if you can make the vocoder in Logic sound more lika a talkbox? I've heard some songs when people is using Korg Microkorg with a talkbox and I just love that sound. I recently bought Logic and I would love if it's possible to make that soound in the software? Keep up the good work!

[oobie11]

Hey thanks for the vids Dave. One question about the Vocoder, how would i clean it up so it had more of a Daft Punk sound?

[karp47]

Maybe try pitch correction software?

Perhaps, autotune or melodyne? Im pretty sure logic comes with its own program as well.

[gcalvanetten]

Great tutorial, thanks a lot!

I like traffic lights too, by the way.

[jfm010]

Fantastic tutorial!

Keep it up!

[tijmen19]

thx a lot Ninja!

grtz from the Netherlands

Big logic fan

[Starfighter817]

you make me happy Dave

[tvpnyc]

damn... just saw this mate.. would have loved to hook up...

TV

[lexdafunk]

chicago rules

[Paardekut]

Explaining things is a talent that very few people master. You're one of those very few.

Thanks a million for all your effort.

It has helped me enormously.

[SFLogicNinja]

Thanks for that. As always, I really appreciate the positive feedback.

*bows*

[bergiep]

hi ninja. Just purchased logic, and you have made it so easy to get up and running. Can´t thank you enough. Best tutorials on the web. Have a nice day.

[SFLogicNinja]

Thanks! That means a lot to me, and I mean that.

*bows*

[macproducer]

Dave, thanks for taking the time to make these videos. You're style of training is very easy to learn from.

[kasz2407]

Who taught you all of this?Nice

[SFLogicNinja]

I've been a producer for a while now, and teacher as well. When emagic first created Logic 3, I was trained up by some folks from there. They were awesome. Now that Apple owns it, it's even better!

*bows*

[josh955iracer]

Dave, wen u go to get drinks with the lucky that can, are u gonna brush ur hair ? lol. Great video, top notch once again brotha

[SFLogicNinja]

NINJAS USE NO BRUSHES! lol.

I'm dying to get a haircut here in the next few. Bike Helmets don't help, either.

[phunkycoconut]

Hi Dave, are you able to make a video on how to take part of a vocal audio and import it into the EXS24 sampler as I want to be able to trigger vocals as an effect in a track.

Thanks again for your great vid's

[SFLogicNinja]

Check out tip #2!

*bows*

[jonniesparko]

Yeah man, amazing stuff yet again. If you're ever in Miami, Florida, let me know man, I'll have the keg ready!

[weeddigger]

WOW>..

Amazing stuff...

[HFSociety]

Is it possible to add the vocoder track to an audio track that's already been recorded? When I tried this it didn't work--does the vocoder track have to be recorded at the same time as the audio track that is feeding it? And what about a MIDI track? If I wanted to output a MIDI track to a vocoder track, could that be done? As always, thanks so much for these videos. This is an amazing series.

[SFLogicNinja]

Um...

Yes, no, no, and you are really welcome.

Your terminology is a wee bit wacky. only AUDIO feeds the sidechain. MIDI plays the vocoder. if your audio isn't working the vooder, use a different preset on the vocoder. Make sure your settings match the video closely. Good luck!

[HFSociety]

Thanks. The key point I was missing (over and over!) is that you have to play something on a keyboard on the vocoder track along with the audio track. I thought I could just feed the audio track into the vocoder. Sorry for my wonky terminology. I'm trying! I live in NY btw, but am just an amateur.

[phunkycoconut]

Thanks Dave for the vid on vocoding, I always learn something from your vid's they're very much appreciated.

[sisawat73]

Domo Arigato Mr. Sflogicninja!

God I love vocoders.

[patrickcooke]

Hey David, thanks for all you great videos! Just watched them all - very helpful indeed.

[ms2000guy]

I almost puked watching cloverfield.

[SFLogicNinja]

I'm lucky that I don't have retinal disparity. I don't get seasick.

Can't watch Beowulf in 3d, tho. Meh.

[mikewatts]

are there any additional presets available for the vocoder?

[SFLogicNinja]

There were old presets from the Logic 7 era. I might be able to find 'em...

[happycolor1922]

Great vid! Needs a Cloverfield video mashup!

Are you going to finish ES2 soon? Please!

[SFLogicNinja]

Beat mapping Sunday. if I can get the ES2 vid happening this week I will. Sorry about the wait! I'm a bit busy these days...

[proff1999]

The next New York Logic Pro Users Group meeting is Wednesday, January 28th, 6 PM at Dale Pro Audio. I wonder if something could be arraigned around that meeting?

[SFLogicNinja]

That would be very cool. are you in NYC? That night in particular would work really well for me...

[proff1999]

I actually live in Jersey but have been looking for an excuse to stay in the City (NYC) late after work and an excuse to visit the Users Group.  I'm not much of a drinker but it would be cool to thank you in person for your always great videos.

[proff1999]

Great tutorial again! You're batting 1000 dude!