Truther threatened with "Patriot Act" at local mall

[UnkleMoke]

So did you guys just pick a mall because of the high volume of people or because you knew eventually you would be approached by security? There are hundreds of other places yet you choose a mall that is known for a high security presence. Whatever, Mike Moore Jr's. You have your footage and you defied "The Man" and the "NWO" so let's all go to Taco Bell and pat each other on the back over soft tacos. By the way it is private property and what they say goes. Shut up and move on.

[lute760]

Get ready for Marshal law! I work at Ft Irwin Army Base In the Mojave Desert and there is a FEMA camp on the base.I''ve been seeing alot of people who work for Dept.of Homeland Security on base lately and they are schooling the base on how to deal with large scale civilian encampment.The troops are also being trained on how to conduct door to door raids in the nearby cities.DHS has also been conucting training exorcises with the FBI at the agricultural checkpoint on Interstate 15 near Barstow CA

[MEDIADETROIT]

lol they are just security guards; I would have walked away they have no legal authority to stop or detain you like that!

[locosway]

@MEDIADETROIT If you refuse to leave they can arrest you for trespassing. It's really simple, it's private property, you don't comply with their rules, they ask you to leave, you refuse, and they arrest you. Cops show up, they accept the citizens arrest, and you're off to jail.

[MrsIzaguirre1]

fuck those fucking pigs!

[Blit67]

Dude...you guys are tards. You know, we got the first time... Looping the confrontation three times just makes you look like your a bunch of twelve year olds. And pull that stupid looking cap straight on your geekafide head. You actually think that if the gov. perpetrated this that you tiny flakes handing out sheets of paper and showing you moronic t-shirt in stealth mode is crankin tha man? Pin dicks

[baezalejandro]

@TargetGuy2245 retards huh?! hmmmm i doubt u can even site how hitler came into power!!

[BaranC]

the immortal technique guy rappin the first verse of the song sounds like the game

[Stink808]

spoken like a true communist.

[2242bzo]

What if I fuck you in your sleep? Hahahaha....Just kiddin' man, but if you're gonna poke fun at concerned citizens and true patriots you better expect it back. That's all. I've been very mild with you but I could quite easily make you think you're inadequate and suicidal. Please don't force me to do that to you....I beseech thee.

[2242bzo]

Fuck you, asshole. I hope you fucking die, treasonous, dumb mother fucker.

[runalonglilone]

bin laden didnt have to blow up any projects. they self destruct by nature as do most government "FREEBIES"gotta love this tiny,pathetic attempt at theme music.mother this mother that..wow,the voices of a rejected society ?? no,not any more.thank god americans have grown tired of politically correct..this progressive,liberal,van jones gravy train for the "lazy' almost left the station. any idiot will soon realize,when government holds 50% of all jobs,this nation losses 50% of her freedoms(yours)

[HiJoDeBoRiNqUeN]

you guys suck balls!!! bunch of pussies!!you got played out homos!! ahahhaha

[terrapyn99]

What an idiot showing his ID to a mall cop !

[TheRodFarva]

4:10. Ooooooh a mall cop sargeant!!!

[bigc028282]

Tell her to get fucked and walk away,she's not a cop and you have it on tape.

[Mdillon1980]

as a former mall cop. I know first hand that a security guard can make no such threats. They cant even touch anyone or that is assault. Our rights are being thrown away everyday and its sick how sheep think the patriot act is here to protect us. Fight The NWO

[AGDemo]

MY MAN! A+ High 5

[PsychoDaveFilms]

I can't find where the patriot act requires ID. I know Ohio for one doesn't require it with the stop and identify law.

You shouldn't of put the camera down. If they ever ask you to remove the camera simply ask "Why? are you planning on doing something ilegal or violate my rights?"

Also security can not detain you, and if you shop and purchase something you are not tresspassing. If they try and remove you for trespassing threaten to return your items and tell the store about the guards

[christofurg]

Listen, you don't have to show security guards shit and they can't detain you. Next time just bounce homie. Mind your neck when the real police officers show, though.

[Deveiel]

Wow, you guys are losers. Good work, but you're still losers.

[sill6800]

Why do we hear the same shit over and over...this is lame shit..you guys are fags..nothing even happened...worthless video

[sill6800]

A pussy skater would say that

[maximusuper]

That seems like the automatic excuse to censor and oppress people: we've received complaints. Bullshit. They're going to keep pushing us until something gives and they ain't gonna like it.

[raver9110]

Dayton mall security gaurds are all assholes cept one. They kicked me out because they didnt think i was 16 then they wouldnt let me call my parents to get a ride home so i had to stand outside wen it was fucking -5 and threatened to call the cops if i weven walked onthe parking lot

[DocGreen15]

You were on private property and you were being gay! Why were you so pussy with the cops? Tell them your moving off the property and walk away! Simple, hand out he flyer's there!

[plalelal]

Put the flyers in back packs with the tops open, and a sign on it that says free vital info take a flyer!

[grandmastershek]

so what did we find out here?

1. security guards arent the most well versed ppl in knowledge of federal law.

2. truthers sure dont mind lying.

[plasmaslug]

It's private property. Why is that so hard to understand?

[Ghorghinahn]

You are NOT required to carry ANY I.D. while on foot, just talking out of her ass to try to frighten them into obeying. Cops use these games to get you to comply. Stand your ground. Know your rights and enforce them yourself, because a cop isn't going to help you. Fascism at work here. Police state in the making; martial law is around the corner. Thanks for posting this, it only displays the stark wrongness of the patriot act and how it can allow law enforcement to further their abuse of power.

[Ghorghinahn]

This is some straight B.S. How can a free exchange of ideas without solicitation of selling a product be illegal ? I can somewhat understand the private property issue inside the mall itself, but I can't give someone in a parking lot a piece of paper with some information on it, even if they ask me for it ?

[rodneykingman]

She mentioned the patriot act in an authoritarian threatening manner. That is undeniable. They were on foot and no where near a bicycle or vehicle. They do not have to carry ID on foot. If they did that would be some kind of ridiculous technicality of the patriot act which is not legal and the same as Nazi Germany did with "Where are your papers."

[rodneykingman]

There are many cities in the US that do not honor the patriot act as law and the local law enforcement officials would be held in contempt and lose their job if they enforced it.

[t4705mb6]

"We don't believe you are a good, lying fascist. Stop telling the truth! If you don't stop telling people the truth, we will arrest you and put you in jail. You are on fascist property. You have no right to speak your mind. Say only the things we like or you are in deep shit...with the new government!"

This fat slob is accepting $8 an hour to work as a thug, selling out his fellow americans for the Cheney fascist whitehouse!

[rodneykingman]

@ 8 min.

[learntoday]

You guys should have just left.

[learntoday]

I am happy you guys are doing something, great job guys!

[Valerian1]

I was with you right up until the "they should be tazed" comment. They're just young people trying to bring attention to an injustice (or perceived injustice) which the media refuses to investigate. They may be a bit naive or dramatic, but they are young. Even IF they're mistaken, at least they're trying to think for themselves and act on behalf of their consciences, which is more than can be said for most people. And for that much, I think they are worthy of respect and respectful treatment.

[ZX2ManDave]

I got thrown out of that same mall for copping a feel off of a dummy in Sears while drunk. Did that have anything to do with the Patriot Act?

Who knows.

[crwnikeboy]

hahaha i thought i was the only one!!

[virtuallypaul]

This is a perfect paradigm for you assholes - you just loop one fairly minor incident over and over and over again and then post the same tape looped video THREE FUCKING TIMES. That's not proof - that's OCD.

[BillyBobNeck]

Y'all got kicked out because you was playing that profane rap music.

[frisbeepilot]

Hahahaha.... wow.

Your country is fucked up.

Not that I believe any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories or anything, but... some local cop whippin' out the Patriot Act? That's funny stuff.

[BuddyThangs]

It wasn't a local cop, it was a loser mall cop. Big difference.

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[911cartoon]

bitch loves to have power.. lol charging young adults with the patriot act.. bitch should do 6 months for that

[ChangeOhio]

good call

[MojoJuana]

welcome to the new american fascist nightmare, folks!

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[holdingcompany]

Don't go to malls? You just figured that out?

Malls are where snipers go to get as many shots off as they can at a great number of contained people.

No shit, don't go to malls. If you had any brains, you'd be supporting your local mom and pops - if they even exist where you live.

[EndGame1984]

I wish we had more mom and pops but unfortunately we don't.

[bolognium420]

should've just outrun that fat fuck.

[EndGame1984]

haha they were blocking out car with their van we couldn't get away haha

[DjBall]

nice work like that immortal/jada at the start.

shoulda edited the clip but glad you posted it guys

good work.

that first renta pig makes Fat Albert look anorexic.

Demanding I.D on behalf of the Patriot Act.

hahahah

what a farce

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[oscarbeenit]

Why do so many Americans hate the truth, and most people wearing a badge just want to control you and inflict pain with electronic devices, while the truth haters stand around cheering and laughing.

[wearechangela]

Learn your rights. You can pass out whatever you pass out. It's not private property. The public has an OPEN INVITATION.

[crookedjon]

Yes, but the mall has final say. For example, you would not be allowed to set up a stall, even though you would be able to on the street.

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[wearechangela]

Look at the law, where the public can go, you can go... private property or not. Security guards have no jurisdiction. All they can do is call the cops. If the cops came, they would tell the security guard that you can pass things out, and you can video tape. This is America.

[Bacchanale78]

I agree with VMAN, why are you not recording. When a fat mall cop says dont record you should tell them there is no law and to PISS OFF!

You guys need to work on your videography half this video is black

[Bacchanale78]

I agree w. VMAN, if a fat mall cop says stop recording you say that there is no law that says you cant record and tell them to PISS OFF !

This whole video is black cuz you guys pussed out and listentd to mall cops

[EndGame1984]

haha we did puss out haha

[shegax03]

hey what song is that? whos the group who raps about that stuff!?

[EndGame1984]

Its immortal technique and some other artists.

[vman33432]

why are you not recording video when the mall security talks to you??

[EndGame1984]

We couldn't she doesn't even know the camera is on, notice my friend detours the conversation about the camera by saying: "well whats going on?"

[911cartoon]

why does this thing loop like 6 times? that shit is crazy i dont need my papers FUCK YOU BITCH. we bout to have a revolution dont fuckin worry

[EndGame1984]

"well, whats going on?" haha I love how you detour the conversation by saying that haha

[EndGame1984]

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Ohio CHANGE threatened with "Patriot Act" at mall

[EnnoiaBlog]

{33} This court recently stated the following: "Although simply refusing to provide one's information to a police officer may not constitute obstruction of official business, when one takes overt acts to impede or obstruct the officer's investigation or business, one may be found guilty of obstructing official business." State v. Merz (July 31, 2000), Butler App. No. CA97-05-108, citing State v. Collins (1993), 88 Ohio App.3d 291, 293-294.

[EnnoiaBlog]

{34} MCO 606.14 prohibits "acts" that hamper or impede a public official's performance of that public official's duties. The record shows that the basis for appellant's obstructing official business charge and conviction was not an overt act, but rather appellant's refusal to provide Officer Quick with his driver's license. Because appellant did not commit an "act" that obstructed Officer Quick from performing his duties, we must reverse appellant's conviction for obstructing official business.

[EnnoiaBlog]

MIDDLETOWN v. Hollon, 2004-Ohio-1502

[EnnoiaBlog]

Note the date -- 2004.  The so-called Patriot act was passed in Oct. 2001.

[withafierceness]

the same thing happened to us at polaris mall.