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  • Good video. Lifting the rear under hard braking used to be a big problem back in the '80s. I thought they had it sorted these days but this video shows another story. There's always a battle going on between power and tyres and weight distribution and braking and handling (not to mention rider ability!). Whenever there's an improvement in one area suddenly all the others have to find a way to catch up.

  • KC nice

  • Stoner is a superhero . SUPER STONER MAN

  • ^^

  • Rossi is yesterdays man, Stoner is the present and the future

  • Rossi admits it himself that Stoner is a better rider, so all you arm-chair experts out there, shut the fuck up and accept the fact that STONER is the Master now.

  • @SPOOKSTR This is no fact. This is a dream. You can't say that Stoner is the Master, until Vale is driving there. Well Stoner is fast... but that's all. Not much talent in 1vs1. Now decide on your own, what is more interesting. Driving as fast as you can to get a big gap.. or fights like these.. /watch?v=FgLE25N_YLQ&feature=f­vwrel

  • @Sneaky335 How is riding as fast as you can and creating a massive gap NOT make you a better rider? You are proving yourself wrong.

  • it wasn't really braking and sliding. More losing traction out of a corner..Rossi Rossi!

  • Come on now, folks!!! Valentino is a legend. In his defense, it's easier to ride a crappy bike (Dookie-ati which Stoner was on) and then upgrade to the Honda then to ride a Yamaha (Rossi) and downgrade to the Ducati. This year, however, I think it's going to be up for grabs because they've upgraded to the 1000cc bikes which are new to the riders. I'm suspecting that Spies should make the transition easier. He just arrived to MotoGP from a World Superbike 1000cc championship only two years ago...

  • @quietstorm1x iam an american and like spies enough but , the wsbk bikes are down 30 to 40 hp on the gp with the liters and weigh a little more . he is a fast racer , i will be keeping my eye one him . i have been a stoner fan since 06 though .. great to see him honda powered again ^^ waited a while for this

  • all 3 times Stoner!!!!! Champion........

  • L'UNICO CHE LA SAPEVA GESTIRE...

  • stoner is a legend.. he can drive any bikes without ask for strange things to his team

  • Rossi is the best.

  • Why is it that I see other people sliding (drifting), but I feel that as soon as I start sliding, my bike will slide out from under me?

  • @ScottsUtubeWorld Because it's bloody difficult and the chances are your bike won't slide out; it will grip when you bottle it and close the throttle and then send you straight up in the air. It's physics. Sorry.

  • DEFINITION of riding on the edge.....

  • fuck stoner...

  • Music was the best part.

  • Only Casey Stoner could tame a Ducati Desmosedici and win the World Championship, need to say more ? And i'm a big fan of The Doctor...

  • Vale is the best. Stoner, at the moment, is very lucky because vale is in ducati and, unfortunately, this isn't a good motorbike to drive.

  • @MichaelYellow46 So why was Stoner able to ride it so much better than Rossi? I love Rossi but Stoner is more talented like it or not. This year he was able to show just how good he is now that he is on a proper race machine. Hopefully the GP12 will allow Rossi to get back in the fight. The sport needs it.

  • Hi @a2birdcage, I think to understand that you want to say (sorry, but i'm young and i don't speak english very well), but, for me, stoner could ride ducati more better than rossi because that was a motorbike which was more suited for stoner, and, fortunately, now duacti is working to do a good motorbike for vale too.

    This is my opinion :)

  • @a2birdcage If your are not able to challenge in a (boxing-match) with Valentino and cry in the aftermath, or just a regular battle then the the talent is less.

    Stoner is bloody quick but he doesn't have the full package.

  • @RossiSlipStream I never said Stoner had the full package. How he acts off the track affects that but it sure as hell doesn't affect his talent and ability on the bike. I think everyone needs to let go of Laguna Seca 2008 and move on. Stoner is the fastest Rossi is likely to ever face and if he stays healthy he has another serious shot at the 2012 title.

  • @a2birdcage But i didn't say you said that Stoner has the full package. Surely Stoner is quick, but Laguna 08 still bugs him and he proved that last year in a recent interview.

    Stoner is the fastest racer today, but Rossi knows ho to play the game, he just needs a good bike.

    Give a rider a bike wich the front-end has no feeling, no matter how fast you are you will never win a championship on it or even a race (only in certain scenario's)

  • SUPERincredibleBITCHINbadassNE­SS

  • Nice

  • natural talent gets you so far......

    Jeremy Burgess does the rest......

  • Casey you're the man!!

  • I have a weird boner after watching this.

  • @JoeTheMeatbag Mind games destabilize your opponent's focus, and if he is unfocused, he cannot push as hard. You see it everywhere, on the track, if someobdy gets unexpectedly stuffed, their rhythm usually gets messed up. Now that he doesn't have to worry about the front, Stoner can play his own version of iron mask mind games and stay focused, whereas Rossi is being haunted by his bike, and you can see the effect it's having on his mental state. There may be a few other factors in play as well.

  • @MrNithinchandran Maybe Casey would ahve been fast on a 500, but we'll never know short of pulling one from the mothballs and asking him to ride it.

    And mind games are very important in motorcycle racing. You look back at Rainey & Schwantz, they did everything to destabilize each other. Doohan played the iron mask mind game, you never know what he was thinking. It was very effective. And Max Biaggi himself almost managed to fluster Mick using his own brand of mind games.

  • why do pro racers take a foot off the pegs under braking, but not all the time? does it help get the bike leaned over? i see rossi do it alot...

  • @bahnkla4 Under that heavy braking as seen in the first couple of seconds the rear tends to lift up, the riders throw their leg off to try and balance the bike and stop it pivoting around, while still maintaining the braking force.Hoped that helped

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  • It's hard to say because i love the good old Rossi days too but it's fact that he lost a lot of his aggression and pace in the last years!! Why??

    Mugello 2010?? The Ducati?? Who know???

  • The WSBK is the last exit for the, definitely good riders, who can't get it done in the MotoGP!! Best example? - Checa, Biaggi!!

    But Fact is that Rossi isn't the motorcycle god everybody thought!! If his bike don't worke, he is not the fourth or fifth fastest. He is on 10 or 13! Is it the Desmosedici? I don't think so, because Hayden can go his pace on almost every track this year and Abraham!!!!!! or DePuniet were faster too sometimes!! And they had no factory bikes!!

    It's hard to say but R

  • @JoeTheMeatbag Casey's talent is also being flattered by Honda, who have been hard at work making their bike better after being humiliated these last few years. You put a talented rider on a great bike, he will decimate a few things. The Ducati is far from perfect, and it might be true that Valentino may retire before it becomes a winner again. Which may result in the Ducati factory being burned. But don't discount Valentino yet, give him a year, then we'll talk.

  • @windi1982 And you call Max Biaggi a nobody. I'll have you recall that he won the 2010 World Superbike championship, which cannot be counted for nothing. Biaggi also has more 250 titles than Rossi, and had Mick Doohan flustered for a few weeks. Be careful who you discount as soft competition.

    And returning to my point about racebikes, when Casey was on the Duc, what did he do? Lose the front trying too hard week in and week out. What're the Duc boys having trouble with? The front.

  • @windi1982 Rossi also won his first premier-class title on a 500cc two-stroke. Easily regarded as the most evil thing to set two or less wheels on a race track. Until the new kids can pull one out of the shed and prove they can ride one, Rossi will still have that over them. Rossi also played Doohanesque mind games with everyone, which he isn't doing now. But now he's on a crap bike, which does prove Stoner's talent, and no matter how good you are you can't win on something that sucks.

  • @JoeTheMeatbag -"Rossi also won his first premier-class title on a 500cc two-stroke. Easily regarded as the most evil thing to set two or less wheels on a race track"-It just shows nsr 500 was better than ducati & stoner would be faster on a 500.Rossi not playing mindgames now bcos it dosent work anymore post 2006 ,it worked with fast but fragile rivals like biaggi & sete.

  • Rossi won his titles against nobodys (Gibernau, Biaggi,.... Great riders but no GP champs)!!!

    The class in the GP is growing up!! Stoner or Lorenzo became faster and faster, Rossi's prime is gone!!! Rossi is overrated!! He wants to turn the Desmo into a M1!!! Worked?? No way!!

    Watched the 2012 1000ccm tests in Valencia?? Hayden and Rossi lost 1,5sec. against Pedrosa and Stoner!!!! The new engines change nothing!! So long 46!!!

  • got sideways?

    

  • i suck.

  • Valentino who???????? Oh yes the grandpa who can't ride the Duc!!!!

    Rossi shut your mouth and go to the WSBK, destroy Biaggi once again and than let it be!!! You are too old for this guys!!! Everybody see it, just you!!!

    I just see your aggression in your words! (''All young riders are pu..ys!'') LOL!! YOU COULDN'T HANDLE YOUR BIKE!! But you are 32, every dog has his day!!!

  • @windi1982 SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!! Rossi has 9 world titles! stoner has 2 or 3.... however stoner is way behind Rossi in moto GP!!!!

    go to wikipedia-valentino rossi-before you comment!!!!!

  • lets romove all electronics from these bikes and lets see who is the best then like 2002 - 2003 where rossi was on the honda just pure riding talent, the old 990's where rossi just fucked everyone on up no one cud touch him... search "rossi victory slide 2003 jerez.... lets see casey hold that kind of slide with his honda RC212... rossi vs stoner on pure talent rossi without a shadow of a dout!... rossi is the best and averyone no's it... even the stoner fans know but just wont accept it...

  • someone has said that rossi did no work on the honda or yama.... the engineers did all the work.. lmfao!!... so in that case the yama was a none competative bike and was at the back of the grid b4 rossi when to yama.. rossis first year in he wins the first race and the championship with it!... stoner went to honda which was already a very competative bike... the ducatti doesnt agree with rossis smooth riding style... it was more suited for stoners agressive full throttle riding style

  • you all make me laugh.... all the people that just cos stoner has won this year on the honda makes him the best in the world... ok yeah stoner has had a awesome year... but you all compare him to rossi!... the guy has absoulely destroyed everone in motogp for the last 14 years... tahts all the best riders in the world come to compete at this level and for rossi to have taken 9 championships out of 14 tells me that he his the best in the world....

  • @85bigpun since stoner and rossi have been racing each other stoner has 33 victories to rossi's 22?

  • Porn should be dissolved from Youtube!

  • the time of vr-46 just pass !!! this is stoner time !! like it or not !! HONDA RULES !!!

  • This is history not an opinion. Nobody can deny this.

  • ihihihihih.. ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Valentino Rossi..9 World Championship (125,250,500,6x Motogp).....^ ^ Stoner 2 W.Championship....at the same age Rossi had 7.... i repeat SEVEN !! World Championship......This is the truth not your truth . Rossi is the legend of this sport.

  • @paolofour444 and rossi was not competitive on the 500/motogp series until the suspension guy from mic doohan's obliterating honda 500 team moved to rossi.. and wow like doohan, rossi started winning everything!.. why? its all in the guy setting the bike up. The bike is just purely faster. thats why when rossi moved to duc he wasnt that fast.. the suspension guy was a genius with metal, not carbon fibre! and cant set the bike up.. so slowly they chip away at handling issues..

  • @fergus1494 Valentino Rossi was second in the championship standings in 2000, what do you mean he was not competitive?

  • @fergus1494 I forget to mention, 2000 was his rookie year on a 500cc Honda, man... if you can handle a 500 and come within the top 3 in the world standings, verily Rossi was competitive.

    Respect the man, and don't ventilate ignorant bullcrap. -.-'

  • @paolofour444 rossi is shit.

  • @paolofour444 ye but he had the best bikes !

  • @paolofour444 damn right

  • @paolofour444 but still i remember this... p.island 09' he was sliding the whole lap

  • @paolofour444 stoner won with ducati, rossi will never be able to.. stoner is the strongest now

  • @paolofour444 rossi has always been on the best bike, when he win's on the ducati (which isn't the best) then he is number 1

  • And thats just the beginning, now HE has the perfect bike. And Rossi has to show us what he can deliver on a difficult bike like the ducati is one (and Stoner delivered a title and lots of wins... Rossi only a lucky P3)

  • ahahah..Valentino Rossi is the best of all time.....you can say whatfuckin you want but this is the truth

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  • @paolofour444

    Noob. Casey is better than him. You have to compare them since they race together and thats 2006. Since 2006 both of them archieved 2 titles but casey has more wins (and more Pole Positions, to put the Cherry on the Cup).

    Thats fact. That is the truth. Call it as you want.

  • Pos. Rider Bike Nation Points 1 Casey STONER Honda AUS 350 2 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha SPA 260 3 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Honda ITA 228 4 Dani PEDROSA Honda SPA 219 5 Ben SPIES Yamaha USA 176 6 Marco SIMONCELLI Honda ITA 139 7 Valentino ROSSI Ducati ITA 139 8 Nicky HAYDEN Ducati USA 132 9 Colin EDWARDS Yamaha USA 109 10 Hiroshi AOYAMA Honda JPN 98
  • casey is the best rider

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  • yeeewwwwwww!!!!!!

  • Drift man !

  • stoner sucks!!!

    rossi gonna fuck him so baad , that he will return to zoo!!

  • This is just bike handling in pure perfection!!!

  • 2strokeyardsale (author) is a fawkin idiot

  • the 3rd one is really cool

  • jujuju asi se maneja una ducati !!!!!

  • king mannaro stoner!

    cosi si guida ala ducati!

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  • just wait til rossi gets a hold of that desmo!... just like he did with the honda and the yama!....

  • @85bigpun Honda was already perfect and Yamaha was the most balanced bike, just need some HP more, don't forget that Yamaha was costantly second classified with more than one rider, By other side Ducati was not such a competitive bike because the only one who can win with tath was Stoner. So Rossi did not do anything on bike, engineers did!

  • rossi merda...

  • damn the first braking was scary

  • so cool!

    

  • Stoner is always riding on the limit

  • @EugeneF15

    ............. always and sometimes way over usually it works out!!!!!

  • Casey the best ! ! !

  • why do they always stick their foot out before a turn? Is it to lower the center of gravity?

  • @alehax27 For a complete explication, just google: "The Truth Behind The Rossi Leg Wave" :)

  • @SpidMovie i read that, it was hilarious.

  • are we about to witness the next mick doohan and hrc combination??? :D :D

  • @Himmlerdude Yes. :)

  • @Himmlerdude yes

    

  • casey on all 3 boys....

    Watch out 2011.

    Stoney + Honda = World Championship :)

  • @R34VSPEC

    Stoney + Ducati = World Championship :)

    Stoney + Honda = World Championship :)

    Stoner is the best ride in the world!

  • @neo2xx5 Go casey!!! GO bastoner!!!

  • @R34VSPEC Pity he has zero personality.

    Rossi is still the man.

  • @Nalinho If Rossi work's this out and wins next year, he will forever be the king. If he doesn't, Stoner will be the king.

  • @Nalinho What does his personality matter? It's not like you are dating the guy. Only thing that matters in racing is how you perform on the track, and all the personality in the world doesn't change the fact that Rossi's getting his ass handed to him this year.

  • @R34VSPEC I guess you were right. :D

  • @R34VSPEC YOU WERE RIGHT!!! :D

  • @Nathan13954

    Yep, i love it when im right!!!!

    It was a no brainer when i wrote that, he is by far the best rider in the paddock, and his year has prooved that.

    Sure Rossi is a 9 time world champion, but no one rides like stoner. He puts in 110% when other riders only manage 100%.. He just won the world Championship, i feel bad for lorenzo, but casey would have won it next week in Malaysia anyway! Bring On 2012, and the 1000CCs :) Go Aussie GO,,,,,, Ciao

  • @R34VSPEC annndd BAM!! he's world champ

  • @R34VSPEC Good call! :p

  • It was Casey Stoner at the GP of Phillip Island last year;)! Rossi was just behind him pulling off the same slide, it was great to watch.

  • Looks like that was Nicky Hayden...not sure who that was in white. Awesome though ! !

  • @TheRaulr151 it was all casey stoner, he ran the white colours for his home race.

  • wow wtf that was freaking awesome !

  • assurdo!!

  • holy shit thats so close to the edge driving man

  • wiked

  • oh mama

  • SWEET!!!

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