Just imagine if these poeple have a vedeta against you. Or they just like the other person or her husband cheated on her, and she desides she hates men. Just change a little here and there in the transcripts and your done.
Court Reporter's are using audio recording (Backup Audio Media) built into computer-aided translation software.
There is little said about this as the c/r’s act like they are possibly losing their jobs—they aren't. The real reason is transcripts are considered infallible—the c/r sacred—they aren't. Our judiciary is one continuous racketeering Govt. agency, worse than all others as there is no one to get help from. Transcripts are tampered with in most cases—all cases if self-represented.
@denbenenki you are a douche bag. Court reporters are impartial officers of the court, and as such don't give whit who wins or loses. Your assertion that transcripts are tampered with, and in "all cases if self-represented" is a testament to your reading level. Why would they waste their time, and what could they possibly gain by doing so? So you're self-represented? As the saying goes, then you have a fool for a client. Get a life.
Their nat’l org advises C/Rs not to tell the litigants about the recording, which actually means don't tell the self-represented ones, as the attys already know.
The Courts have already ruled the C/Rs do not have to let a party have a copy of the audio; claiming it is their own property. But imagine any scenario where it would be wrong to let a party have a copy.
C/Rs witness ppl getting robbed every week and say nothing.
It's a good thing this professional and intelligent lady communicated with Governor Schwarzenegger through video. If he met her in person, he would have likely groped her. Thank God he's gone.
@kp71212 Also do you beleive that everyone deserves a fair and just trial even if you can't afford a lawyer or the fees to pay for transcripts. Also since you are a court repoter and you spend a alot of time in court rooms Please tell me how you feel about SBX211 and the Retro Active Imunity from prosecution granted to judges under SBX211. PLEASE REPLY I really would appreciate your opinion. And once again I'm sorry for being harsh about your job but I need those transcripts and I'm broke.
@danielcooper1000 I think you're a troll. Yeah, you can't afford transcripts, so let's get rid of court reporters. And I'm sure you can't afford lawyers either. So let's get of rid of laywers too. Sounds good to me. Why is it that we can't make a living because we are charging for our skill but you aren't troubled by other well-paid professionals?
@kp71212 your right. but I need those transcripts and I can't afford them. If you tube had spell check that would take care of that problum. Construction has been the hardest hit industry in the nation (so I'm hurting) I can't afford your cost to be able to represent myself in a court of law. what happens in court affects my life, my sons lives and right now I can't afford you. I don't mean unsympathectic to your career but the cost of your job directly affects my pursuit of justice.
@danielcooper1000 look at this. you ask a court reporter to answer a question and she did and they REMOVED her answer. they will probably whip her. they are not allowed to tell us the anything!
you have never heard of a judge being turned in for illegal actions and how is that when there are millions of complaints. this youtube post is rare as they rarely allow any news involving courtreporters. i found one court reporter forum and asked a question in reply to a post. they took the forum down.
you cost alot, I'm trying to represent myself in pro per and I can't afford the transcripts. also if you make an error it can be devistating. My biggest obsticale at this point is trying to pay the reporter for the transcripts. You need to go away justice should not be to people that can afford it.
@danielcooper1000 thats no "mistake." it might seem so, as they are always learning better ways to cheat (judges and lawyers). i will bet my first born the mistake was against you. you will never see a mistake against the opposing lawyer.
they have a very extreme and complex rigged system (which includes court reporters), so it might seem llike it would be trivial to cheat against you, but you must realize they have a larger agenda and it is mostly about job security and salaries.
This bill would provide that no governmental entity, or officer or employee of a governmental entity, shall incur any liability or be subject to prosecution or disciplinary action because of benefits provided to a judge under the official action of a governmental entity prior to the effective date of this bill on the ground that those benefits were not authorized under law.
Thank you. I wish there was something like this for CART providers in educational settings. Oh and try turning on the CC on this video and see how the "machine" translates this video.
What a great presentation, Lisa! I have watched this several times and it restores my faith in the court reporting profession. I urge those interested to also watch "King County Reporters" on Youtube. We'll see what our immediate future holds in California tonight or tomorrow.........
Honesty, continuing education, repurtation for doing your job well. The only way to have an accurate history is for court reporting to remain and thrive. If it's my personal case, I want a court reporter, not a tape recorder.
As a transcriptionist, I know getting rid of court reporters would make me RICH! I've seen the industry move from cassette tapes to digital recordings and the quality of the audio become immensely better. HOWEVER, what I have never seen is a recording device that can pick up 100 percent of what is being said, nor identify who is saying it. A cough, a knock of the mic, a soft-spoken witness, a roomful of people paying no attention to whether the device is working... I could go on and on.
I sat in on an interpreter deposition. The witness was also trying to answer because she spoke some English. The court reporter stopped her and asked the interpreter to only speak. A machine would not have done that. Thank you, Lisa, for your video.
Brava, Lisa!! I hope this video is on TV stations in California. While she's speaking on behalf of CA reporters, she's speaking on behalf of all of us! So proud!
omg, ha! I just realized when I posted I am on my son's account.........so I am not DaBear-whatever, I am actually the Mother of DaBear........lol! As soon as I figure out how to change that I will!!! Sorry!!
We court reporters in Louisiana have been fighting this fight for a while, most recently this past legislative session in Baton Rouge. It is amazing, and disheartening, to realize how many people in very influential positions, like Governor Schwarzenegger, are totally misguided and uninformed about the importance of what we do. We.....Are....THE GUARDIANS OF THE RECORD.
I urge anyone willing to speak out against the court reporting profession to do their homework. Meet with the leaders of our profession. Learn about the intricacies of providing an accurate record. Today's legal environment is more challenging than ever; something a machine is not equipped to handle, as Lisa so eloquently stated. Thank you, Lisa. Let's hope they listen, learn, and realize how anyone involved in the legal community, professionals and citizens, count on accuracy for justice.
Well said, Lisa. I have been a reporters' proofreader for many years, as well as spending some time as a tape transcriptionist. After spending hours poring over crappy recordings, using every filter I can think of to make them a little more audible and STILL not being able to hear what is being said, I can attest to the importance of having a real live person reporting the proceedings. Video and tape recordings should be backup, not that which creates the record.
Again, Lisa, thanks for representing all the hard-working court reporting professionals everywhere. I wish Governor Schwarzenegger had done a bit more research on our profession before deciding to make his uneducated remarks. It's a shame when elected officials speak about things they have no knowledge of.
Excellent presentation. I am a legal videographer and my wife is a court reporter. I can state that there is no way video or audio recoding should ever replace a court reporter. You guys are indispensable!!!
Following up on that, it's baffling to me that a person who has relied on and benefitted enormously from patient, English-speaking Americans over the past four decades to help cultivate and ultimately grow your acting career in this country, making you a billionaire, would blindly speak out against a group of individuals who make it their profession to report and produce written transcripts, no matter what the language, at the highest level of accuracy on the planet....shame on you, Arnold!
Arnold, this is odd for me as I was a huge fan of yours when you parlayed your successful bodybuilding career into what became an institution in Hollywood when it came to making action films revolving around you and your mega persona.....that being said, I am a male Certified Shorthand Reporter for the state of California, and I couldn't be more ashamed and embarrassed at your lack of knowledge when it comes to understanding fully what it is that court reporters do performing their job duties.
Ask any of the court staff that avail themselves of my realtime translation of court proceedings on a daily basis, or the attorneys who routinely request daily rough draft transcripts of an ongoing jury trial, if they prefer a live court reporter to a machine, and you will get the obvious answer that I am invaluable because a machine cannot provide either of these things.
Lisa, I have never met you, but what an honor it is to watch this video you produced. You portrayed how all court reporters feel. Thank you so much for such a powerful statement. Hopefully the Governor can see the real meaning of a court reporter. Thanks again for speaking for all court reporters across the country!
Very well said and very true!! We are facing the same issue here in Florida and I'd like to forward this to all those in control with the same opinion as your Governor.
Any time you hear someone talkin' out their aught that tapes are better/there's no need for live reporters, you automatically know they're clueless (as in Mr. Arnold Strong) and care little for an accurate record. As you say, ask a lawyer or judge what they'd (indiscernible) prefer.
Thanks from New Jersey, Lisa, for capturing the essence of the professionalism and dedication required in this demanding profession. When I am in a major trial realtiming and providing daily copy, back into court with one or two hours sleep, giving more than seems humanly possible, I tell myself that nothing and no one can do what we do. Our team has also captioned court for a judge with profound hearing loss for the last six years, enabling this great judge to remain on the bench. Good luck!
Excellent!! I've shared this video on my facebook and have received positive responses from my nonreporter friends who really had no idea what we do. Thank you for setting it out so clearly. Good luck in California, from a Texas CSR!!
Lisa, Thank you so much for taking a strong stand on behalf of our profession. Your message and delivery are impeccable. I am proud to be a member of DRA. Bravo!
Thank you for being such a spectacular ambassador for our profession. Your message is spot on and now should be carried by all of us to the misinformed. Extremely well done!
Great job, Lisa! Machines cannot replace people. There is no recording device that can take the place of the human with a brain sitting there (impartially). I hope the governor watches this.
Excellent video. Last couple of presentations I've made to some bar groups I've had ready to play songs from Stevie Nicks (who I love), & a sample from Louie, Louie whose lyrics just couldn't be understood. And the point I've made is if these professional recordings costing MILLIONS of dollars can't be understood, what will you get with a less sophisticated recording system.
The issue isn't just hearing the sound, it's understanding it, and you pointed out that's what we do. Great Job.
Outstanding. I think I'd like a transcript of this very clear response to hand to anyone who makes the same inaccurate, uneducated presumptions as the governor.
Lisa Michaels, great job being the spokesperson for our profession. We were proud to host the production of the video at Discovery Conference Centre in San Diego.
Lisa, you were remarkable in this Video Letter to the Governor! I got chills down my spine at the end! I have to add to a point that you have mentioned... when I needed a copy of a 10 year-old Transcript, the Court Reporter had it, and sold it to me! It saved my case! You are absolutely correct regarding the value of the Human over the Machine! Great work! I am proud of you!
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Just imagine if these poeple have a vedeta against you. Or they just like the other person or her husband cheated on her, and she desides she hates men. Just change a little here and there in the transcripts and your done.
danielcooper1000 3 weeks ago
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danielcooper1000 3 weeks ago
Court Reporter's are using audio recording (Backup Audio Media) built into computer-aided translation software.
There is little said about this as the c/r’s act like they are possibly losing their jobs—they aren't. The real reason is transcripts are considered infallible—the c/r sacred—they aren't. Our judiciary is one continuous racketeering Govt. agency, worse than all others as there is no one to get help from. Transcripts are tampered with in most cases—all cases if self-represented.
denbenenki 6 months ago
@denbenenki you are a douche bag. Court reporters are impartial officers of the court, and as such don't give whit who wins or loses. Your assertion that transcripts are tampered with, and in "all cases if self-represented" is a testament to your reading level. Why would they waste their time, and what could they possibly gain by doing so? So you're self-represented? As the saying goes, then you have a fool for a client. Get a life.
wabbachov 5 months ago
Their nat’l org advises C/Rs not to tell the litigants about the recording, which actually means don't tell the self-represented ones, as the attys already know.
The Courts have already ruled the C/Rs do not have to let a party have a copy of the audio; claiming it is their own property. But imagine any scenario where it would be wrong to let a party have a copy.
C/Rs witness ppl getting robbed every week and say nothing.
denbenenki 6 months ago
It's a good thing this professional and intelligent lady communicated with Governor Schwarzenegger through video. If he met her in person, he would have likely groped her. Thank God he's gone.
PirateEyepatch 7 months ago
@kp71212 and every other word he spelled incorrectly.
PirateEyepatch 7 months ago
@kp71212 Also do you beleive that everyone deserves a fair and just trial even if you can't afford a lawyer or the fees to pay for transcripts. Also since you are a court repoter and you spend a alot of time in court rooms Please tell me how you feel about SBX211 and the Retro Active Imunity from prosecution granted to judges under SBX211. PLEASE REPLY I really would appreciate your opinion. And once again I'm sorry for being harsh about your job but I need those transcripts and I'm broke.
danielcooper1000 7 months ago
@danielcooper1000 I think you're a troll. Yeah, you can't afford transcripts, so let's get rid of court reporters. And I'm sure you can't afford lawyers either. So let's get of rid of laywers too. Sounds good to me. Why is it that we can't make a living because we are charging for our skill but you aren't troubled by other well-paid professionals?
Like I said, you're a troll.
PirateEyepatch 7 months ago
@kp71212 your right. but I need those transcripts and I can't afford them. If you tube had spell check that would take care of that problum. Construction has been the hardest hit industry in the nation (so I'm hurting) I can't afford your cost to be able to represent myself in a court of law. what happens in court affects my life, my sons lives and right now I can't afford you. I don't mean unsympathectic to your career but the cost of your job directly affects my pursuit of justice.
danielcooper1000 7 months ago
@danielcooper1000 ( I don't mean TO BE unsympathetic )
danielcooper1000 7 months ago
@danielcooper1000 look at this. you ask a court reporter to answer a question and she did and they REMOVED her answer. they will probably whip her. they are not allowed to tell us the anything!
you have never heard of a judge being turned in for illegal actions and how is that when there are millions of complaints. this youtube post is rare as they rarely allow any news involving courtreporters. i found one court reporter forum and asked a question in reply to a post. they took the forum down.
denbenenki 3 months ago
You go girl! You tell him!
sarailuv 8 months ago
you cost alot, I'm trying to represent myself in pro per and I can't afford the transcripts. also if you make an error it can be devistating. My biggest obsticale at this point is trying to pay the reporter for the transcripts. You need to go away justice should not be to people that can afford it.
danielcooper1000 10 months ago
@danielcooper1000 thats no "mistake." it might seem so, as they are always learning better ways to cheat (judges and lawyers). i will bet my first born the mistake was against you. you will never see a mistake against the opposing lawyer.
they have a very extreme and complex rigged system (which includes court reporters), so it might seem llike it would be trivial to cheat against you, but you must realize they have a larger agenda and it is mostly about job security and salaries.
denbenenki 3 months ago
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danielcooper1000 3 weeks ago
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@denbenenki @denbenenki The whole system is corrupt.
SECTION FROM SBX211
This bill would provide that no governmental entity, or officer or employee of a governmental entity, shall incur any liability or be subject to prosecution or disciplinary action because of benefits provided to a judge under the official action of a governmental entity prior to the effective date of this bill on the ground that those benefits were not authorized under law.
RETRO ACTIVE IMMUNITY FOR TAKING BRIBES.
danielcooper1000 3 weeks ago
this was wonderful!!!
shanterra008252 1 year ago
Thank you. I wish there was something like this for CART providers in educational settings. Oh and try turning on the CC on this video and see how the "machine" translates this video.
ms1sign1 1 year ago
Awesome video! Thx so much for posting it!
keonomi 1 year ago
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coyotef 1 year ago
You go GIRLFRIEND! you look great! I am so so frustrated after the elections with our CA goverment... Keep it up!
coyotef 1 year ago
Well done Lisa
MundellGrover 1 year ago
What a great presentation, Lisa! I have watched this several times and it restores my faith in the court reporting profession. I urge those interested to also watch "King County Reporters" on Youtube. We'll see what our immediate future holds in California tonight or tomorrow.........
WS769 1 year ago
Bravo!! Thank you, Lisa. You make me proud to be among your ranks.
mandyinseattle 1 year ago
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mandyinseattle 1 year ago
Honesty, continuing education, repurtation for doing your job well. The only way to have an accurate history is for court reporting to remain and thrive. If it's my personal case, I want a court reporter, not a tape recorder.
alx22too 1 year ago
Well said!!!!
alx22too 1 year ago
As a court reporter in Bronx Supreme Court for 21 years, I applaud you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vickyefferen 1 year ago
As a transcriptionist, I know getting rid of court reporters would make me RICH! I've seen the industry move from cassette tapes to digital recordings and the quality of the audio become immensely better. HOWEVER, what I have never seen is a recording device that can pick up 100 percent of what is being said, nor identify who is saying it. A cough, a knock of the mic, a soft-spoken witness, a roomful of people paying no attention to whether the device is working... I could go on and on.
Words6139 1 year ago
Thank you, Lisa! You speak not only on behalf of California court reporters but on behalf of court reporters all across our country. Well said!!
magmarsh 1 year ago
Gov. Schwarzenegger is totally out of line. What a blunder on his part!
elPacaManca 1 year ago
I sat in on an interpreter deposition. The witness was also trying to answer because she spoke some English. The court reporter stopped her and asked the interpreter to only speak. A machine would not have done that. Thank you, Lisa, for your video.
kitacaimen 1 year ago
Brava, Lisa!! I hope this video is on TV stations in California. While she's speaking on behalf of CA reporters, she's speaking on behalf of all of us! So proud!
MrStenoman 1 year ago
omg, ha! I just realized when I posted I am on my son's account.........so I am not DaBear-whatever, I am actually the Mother of DaBear........lol! As soon as I figure out how to change that I will!!! Sorry!!
DaBear512448 1 year ago
We court reporters in Louisiana have been fighting this fight for a while, most recently this past legislative session in Baton Rouge. It is amazing, and disheartening, to realize how many people in very influential positions, like Governor Schwarzenegger, are totally misguided and uninformed about the importance of what we do. We.....Are....THE GUARDIANS OF THE RECORD.
DaBear512448 1 year ago
RIGHT ON, LISA!! You make me so proud to have you as our president!!
kimscsr 1 year ago
I urge anyone willing to speak out against the court reporting profession to do their homework. Meet with the leaders of our profession. Learn about the intricacies of providing an accurate record. Today's legal environment is more challenging than ever; something a machine is not equipped to handle, as Lisa so eloquently stated. Thank you, Lisa. Let's hope they listen, learn, and realize how anyone involved in the legal community, professionals and citizens, count on accuracy for justice.
JNScott65 1 year ago
Well said, Lisa. I have been a reporters' proofreader for many years, as well as spending some time as a tape transcriptionist. After spending hours poring over crappy recordings, using every filter I can think of to make them a little more audible and STILL not being able to hear what is being said, I can attest to the importance of having a real live person reporting the proceedings. Video and tape recordings should be backup, not that which creates the record.
compoundmeter 1 year ago
Again, Lisa, thanks for representing all the hard-working court reporting professionals everywhere. I wish Governor Schwarzenegger had done a bit more research on our profession before deciding to make his uneducated remarks. It's a shame when elected officials speak about things they have no knowledge of.
CSRSoCal 1 year ago
Excellent presentation. I am a legal videographer and my wife is a court reporter. I can state that there is no way video or audio recoding should ever replace a court reporter. You guys are indispensable!!!
jdlsnl2 1 year ago
Following up on that, it's baffling to me that a person who has relied on and benefitted enormously from patient, English-speaking Americans over the past four decades to help cultivate and ultimately grow your acting career in this country, making you a billionaire, would blindly speak out against a group of individuals who make it their profession to report and produce written transcripts, no matter what the language, at the highest level of accuracy on the planet....shame on you, Arnold!
SoCalScott10 1 year ago
Arnold, this is odd for me as I was a huge fan of yours when you parlayed your successful bodybuilding career into what became an institution in Hollywood when it came to making action films revolving around you and your mega persona.....that being said, I am a male Certified Shorthand Reporter for the state of California, and I couldn't be more ashamed and embarrassed at your lack of knowledge when it comes to understanding fully what it is that court reporters do performing their job duties.
SoCalScott10 1 year ago
right wing ideology, cut everything, ANARCHY!!!!!! ANARCHY!!!!!! ANARCHY!!!!!!
803brando 1 year ago
Thank you, Lisa, from Colorado!
Ask any of the court staff that avail themselves of my realtime translation of court proceedings on a daily basis, or the attorneys who routinely request daily rough draft transcripts of an ongoing jury trial, if they prefer a live court reporter to a machine, and you will get the obvious answer that I am invaluable because a machine cannot provide either of these things.
You represent our profession well -- thank you!
Michelle Kirkpatrick, RPR
Boulder, CO
michellemkirkpatrick 1 year ago
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michellemkirkpatrick 1 year ago
Lisa, I have never met you, but what an honor it is to watch this video you produced. You portrayed how all court reporters feel. Thank you so much for such a powerful statement. Hopefully the Governor can see the real meaning of a court reporter. Thanks again for speaking for all court reporters across the country!
KeriVeare 1 year ago
Lisa, this is the best statement I have ever seen to explain our important part in the legal system. Thank you for saying it so well.
janieceyo 1 year ago
Lisa, You are fabulous! Thanks for taking the words right out of my mouth -- but that's what we do, isn't it? Well done.
donnabaker1111 1 year ago
Lisa, way to go, my darling. You've earned my membership!!!
lizzylee2000 1 year ago
Very well said and very true!! We are facing the same issue here in Florida and I'd like to forward this to all those in control with the same opinion as your Governor.
debbytime 1 year ago
Thank you Lisa. Nice job.
Any time you hear someone talkin' out their aught that tapes are better/there's no need for live reporters, you automatically know they're clueless (as in Mr. Arnold Strong) and care little for an accurate record. As you say, ask a lawyer or judge what they'd (indiscernible) prefer.
furtdude 1 year ago
Thank you, Lisa. Florida is behind you as well.
dsmabishop 1 year ago 2
Thanks from New Jersey, Lisa, for capturing the essence of the professionalism and dedication required in this demanding profession. When I am in a major trial realtiming and providing daily copy, back into court with one or two hours sleep, giving more than seems humanly possible, I tell myself that nothing and no one can do what we do. Our team has also captioned court for a judge with profound hearing loss for the last six years, enabling this great judge to remain on the bench. Good luck!
CRRRMRCCRNJ 1 year ago 5
Thank you, Lisa. That couldn't have been put any better. Great job :)
stenogirl8 1 year ago 2
Excellent!! I've shared this video on my facebook and have received positive responses from my nonreporter friends who really had no idea what we do. Thank you for setting it out so clearly. Good luck in California, from a Texas CSR!!
rossmk71 1 year ago
way to go, Lisa!
wynnepauly 1 year ago
Lisa, Thank you so much for taking a strong stand on behalf of our profession. Your message and delivery are impeccable. I am proud to be a member of DRA. Bravo!
marge201 1 year ago
Thank you for being such a spectacular ambassador for our profession. Your message is spot on and now should be carried by all of us to the misinformed. Extremely well done!
nancyb2833 1 year ago
Lisa, well spoken, beautiful response.
cassandraellis 1 year ago
Lisa and DRA, that you so much for giving such a clear, concise and educated voice to our wonderful profession. Well done! Keep up the good work.
MdmRptr 1 year ago
Well done, Lisa!! Thank you for your response and for representing our profession respectfully, accurately, and professionally!!!
astarbuck21 1 year ago
Great job, Lisa! Machines cannot replace people. There is no recording device that can take the place of the human with a brain sitting there (impartially). I hope the governor watches this.
leshjunk 1 year ago
Lisa, very well done!! Thanks to you and DRA for such an articulate and accurate response!
RonCook33 1 year ago
What a great message, Lisa! Having been a notereader/scopist for court reporters since 1982, I know that everything you said is the absolute truth!
dazeydawn 1 year ago
Lisa, WELL DONE! Thank you for representing our profession!
juliaobien 1 year ago
Great job, Lisa! Thank you for your part in trying to preserve our profession.
tamirpr 1 year ago
Lisa,
Excellent video. Last couple of presentations I've made to some bar groups I've had ready to play songs from Stevie Nicks (who I love), & a sample from Louie, Louie whose lyrics just couldn't be understood. And the point I've made is if these professional recordings costing MILLIONS of dollars can't be understood, what will you get with a less sophisticated recording system.
The issue isn't just hearing the sound, it's understanding it, and you pointed out that's what we do. Great Job.
kevinrhunt1420 1 year ago
Outstanding. I think I'd like a transcript of this very clear response to hand to anyone who makes the same inaccurate, uneducated presumptions as the governor.
chartman64 1 year ago
Excellent job. Thanks for your professional message!
QuickTranscripts 1 year ago
A really outstanding job, Lisa. Polished, profound, and most of all, entirely correct. Wonderful.
JasonMeadors 1 year ago
Lisa, THANK YOU for putting this out there for all of us in the court reporting community.
Regards,
Tamara Jenkins, RMR, CRR, CLR, FPR
Florida
tams2kool 1 year ago
Lisa Michaels, great job being the spokesperson for our profession. We were proud to host the production of the video at Discovery Conference Centre in San Diego.
KrammCourtReporting 1 year ago
Lisa, you were remarkable in this Video Letter to the Governor! I got chills down my spine at the end! I have to add to a point that you have mentioned... when I needed a copy of a 10 year-old Transcript, the Court Reporter had it, and sold it to me! It saved my case! You are absolutely correct regarding the value of the Human over the Machine! Great work! I am proud of you!
kevin99507 1 year ago