Californians Address the Role of Media in Politics

[tmburns1971]

celebratard...oh...celebratard­...who should I vote for?

[ninanwk69]

Celebrities will never influence my choice of a candidate. The American Anthem is titled the Star Spangled Banner not the Star Spangled Celebrities.

[StewartPainting]

People's opinions are important. Thanks for taken it to the streets!

[mariperry]

It's wonderful to see people speak freely their opinions about politics--this is why we love and live in the good ole USofA!

[ivoman7]

watch?v=SnNmeTc0N_k

[ivoman7]

tell ya what - honesty sell - idd pay for that! mothefuckers!

[chuckiesbabiesmomma]

I love this video. It's great that people are stating their own opinions without worrying about being called "un-American" or a "Communist" Thanks for posting the video!

[kakudmi]

hahaha

this country is sinking BADLY !!!

[DazmoTube]

how is that funny? the fuck is wrong with you

[kakudmi]

It is funny because so far americans were overly proud about themselves and their way of life, which is based on exploitation of 3rd world countries. Now the karma is hitting back, and hitting hardly, and yet, hardly anyone is waking up. Ppl still starting at their TVs, expecting truth.

Actually you're right, sorry, it is not funny at all, it is sad. Good luck americans.

[rbkillingninja]

i like the argument that has started about the video. interesting opinions.

[richter10point2]

It's great to see people actually engaging in a dialogue about something important...

[zacher28]

It's refreshing when people give their unedited views

[DieMenschMaschine85]

I agree.

[conobs]

basic rule of thumb for me

if you have to pass laws to protect their market they are beyond the free market defence

we shouldnt allow them to have their cake and eat it too

example; the supposed canadian perscription drug scandal

we inforced public saftey laws to protect the drug makers domestic market and the american public cried BS

that isnt free market that is merchantilism

[conobs]

i always get a good chuckly out of the free market defence to good old english merchantilism

while they are related they are not the same

anything that needs that much goverment intervention can never claim to be free market

when a hospital is built over the years using public money and donations only to be sold at a later date by the board of trustees to a corp that isnt free market thats theft

[conobs]

at least with those types of tactics

[conobs]

freemarket please read about the folks who attack things like the g8 and wto

they are for the most part as free market as you can get, i chose the status quoe over them any day

for the most part they are utlra radical free market anarchist

[conobs]

communism and socilisim are not the same thing

[Lakewood86]

Socialism is a hybid of communism and capitalism. You can own private property, etc but the government has extremely high taxes (50% in some Scandinavian countries) so they can pay for their wealth redistribution, welfare, socialzed health care, etc. It tries to achieve social equality..

I think the US will be socialist by in a decade or two, like Canada.

[realdad32]

ahh the never ending quest for equality. what they never mention about equality is that when everyone is equal, then no one is ever special. im hopefull for america, because now we are more vigilant. there are plenty of socialist or communist nations to choose from, but america is the last great republic. it would be a shame to just give that up because freedom was just too much of a hassle.

[conobs]

i was with you on your fist 3 sentences FreeMarket

but just because i like mexican food dosnt mean i want to live there

i am not advocating free health care i am advocating that the profit be took out.

contrary to what most believe most advances in science and health are not made by the private sector, but is instead given or auctioned off by our gov... that isnt what i call free market

[FreeMarketOne]

Someone give that filthy scraggly beard guy a razor and a bar of soap.

I think I saw him with a bandanna across his face protesting somewhere and throwing Molotovs like at the G8 or WTO or someplace.

p.s. separate topic: why the hell is a wacked out place like San Fran the only stop in N America for the olympic torch??

[FreeMarketOne]

Capitalism rocks. There is nothing wrong with people chasing a dream and making lots of money. They will pay lots of taxes. If you want communism, move to North Korea or Cuba. "Paid Health Care" is not a right. You have the right under the const to Life, Liberty and The Pursuit of Happiness. Pursuit it how you see fit.

[conobs]

the ultra rich are like the guy in the crew who eats steak everytime its someone elses turn to pay but wants to go to the hotdog stand when its his turn to pay

when you try to point it out to him

he replies every 5th time i pick lunch up dont i, are you anti hotdog?

while the math he chose to potray the event may be correct you dont have to live thru many iterations to realize there is a deeper truth, he benifits the most

the media and their masters benifit the most from keeping the system

[conobs]

free assocation is not a liberal stance

taking your kids to the doctor instead of a priest when sick is not a liberal stance

we decided these things long ago! they are middle of the road must haves!

in that vien any media that focuses on these types of things being liberal IS CONSERVATIVE.

[conobs]

if in this day and age you think "equal rights" is a liberal stance you are a conservative!

if in this day and age you think "seperation of church and state" is a liberal stance you are a conservative

both of those examples are middle of the road "just the way it should be" not liberal stances

eating is not a liberal stance.

not allowing slavery is not a liberal stance

breathing is not a liberal stance

[ilovemyvegesoup]

Conobs, you make a very good point about comedians doing news commentary and why....makes one really look and think.

[conobs]

back somewhat on topic

why has america turned to comedians for their news commentary?

because the comedian is in it for the laughs...

i personaly dont think its new

when i look back i see people like will rogers, mark twain and come to the conclusion that comedy is one of the last refuges of liberalism when the country is completely run by conservatives

[conobs]

i was especialy dissapointed in bill m. this week he let "the top 3 percent pay 53 percent of the taxes" slide without reminding people "they make 98 percent of the money"

just another conservative posing as a liberal

[conobs]

packaging

there is no real difference in the substance of their products so they must concentrate on the packaging

we have the Dem lable and you know its good

we have the Rep lable and you know its good

both sides quit using the quality stuff to make their product long ago

msn sells the dem lable

fox sells the rep lable

both sides have nothing to do with the product our grand parents used

let the poor stay for free (they have no money) make the rich richer, and let the middle pay

[conobs]

the whole thing reminds me of the red cross thing a few years back

why dont you help those people?

we wont get enough donations to make a profit, its sad but true if we help them we wont be able to help others

but your already not helping others?

thats true but by running it this way we could if we wanted to

so basicly the only thing you helped was your job and the profitablity of your not for profit corp?

slight of hand, miss direction, all the same a crappy parlor trick to keep the sys

[conobs]

I agree with you jerryERRN

the myth that the health care industry can not turn you down is just another example of the headlines/media laws/politcians slanting things to make it appear one way when a simple experimante would prove it to be the other and no matter if your fox or msn you are actualy a conservative voice to keep the current system intact

both sides want to give it to the free market they only differ in when and were

[jerryERRN]

Healthcare is one of our biggest problems in this country and does not help when some one running for office can not tell the truth. If you are going to tell a story first make sure you know if it is true or not. We in healthcare can BY LAW turn you away from treatment, so maybe she should look into it.

[ManofManyPasswords]

yes health care, problem

[conobs]

we will eventualy get to the point were the masses will refuse to vote

at that point the only ones voting will be the ultra radicals, in such a situation the hitler types will out number the wall street types and we will go down the same road as germany or italy

[conobs]

the truth is they are a distraction designed to act as a pressure relief valve

not to actualy help get anything good done

after every major election with great turn out the next major election sees massively lower turn out, this is due to the fact it never changes

look at what the dems did after Carter... changed the rules to ensure it didnt happen again... as in none of them cares what we think they only want us to rubber stamp them with legitamacy

same for the media

[conobs]

my point is it dosnt matter go the other direction and its the same

same conclusion different road to get there

if fox was doing it then we would get caught up on the "conservatives bashing the liberals".

[afroehli]

Did anyone even read the description? I mean obviously these are biased they were filmed at the Democratic convention. You people need to chill

[conobs]

its a very simple formula

here are the things that are right

they split them between the 2 parties

this left the american public with no clear right and ends with us switching back and forth, left then right left then right

in such a situation i think any decent sailor will tell you "you wont land on the left shore or the right you will land in the middle" which will be an odd form of fascist socilized capitalisim

just what they want, a world were no one won but money reigns king

[conobs]

i suspect the reason you view this as an attack by liberals on conservatives is you actualy think there are liberals running anything. i will make it simple... there are no powerfull liberals left

they sold out or died long ago

dont toss nader and his type out there

he is not a liberal and is also in corparate americas pocket

he has a function in their machine

but did he do anything for the little guy? no he made money killing the convertable and saving the resources for corporate amereica

[conobs]

when i look at the parties i see very little difference

when i look at the media paid to put forth their ideals i see very little difference

the truth is when a canidate that realy believes in the core values of thier party the media and party big wigs do everything in their power to crush them

regardless of the party or the media

most big bussinesses give to both sides and dont realy care who wins.

their are no major canidates that are truly repuclican or dem, only flunkys for the system

[conobs]

i see a lot of talk about their ratings and if people would stop watching things would change... that whole thought process seems to ignore reality.

basicly we did stop watching their news departments

but instead of blaming it on the product they were selling they blamed the viewers... "america dosnt want hard core news"

ah tahoejimmy... what can i say

you ignore the fact that by in large the media is in power/or in bed with it and this would lead to the fact that they are theestablisment

[Nicko1024]

I do hope that most other people know that the news companies are owned by entertainment companies. They were started to captivate viewers in a way where they can sell corporate sponsorships to the masses via TV shows/movies. By manufacturing artificial political controversy (or magnifying it) they are producing entertainment for their audience. Fox News, CNN, CNBC, etc should be views for what they are 90% entertainment 10% news.

[MotownMoleman]

So if you don't like mainstream mega-media... DONT WATCH IT! There are plenty of alternates out there. Just because you see Coke & Pepsi everywhere does not mean you can't drink something else....

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[wuzhengchao]

just try

[Ureallydontknow]

watch what you say, chucknorris is on his way to your house to open a can of woooopass.

[sierraonezero]

A hand held camera asking nutters their opinion...too funny! Almost as good as TMZ and that ain't saying much.

[1AML3G3ND]

search > american bootlegger (funny)

[Ibssa9]

We need to go back to the ideals that the founding fathers had. Thomas Jefferson and Benji Franklin wouldn't have stood for this shit, and neither should we.

[ragnarok416]

Problem being, people just keep watching it. If no one watched it, they wouldn't be getting ratings.

[ragnarok416]

Problem being, people just keep watching it.  If no one watched it, they wouldn't be getting ratings.

[RichardENeves]

The media is going to tear this country apart with divisive ideas. We will be going back to the dark ages because of these destructive ideas. I hope you BURN IN HELL since you try and indoctrinate people with horrible ideas.

[rbkillingninja]

cool vid.

[tahoejimmy]

However, a few comments your subjects gave were very accurate. The media routinely lies. Yes, that's true. But that's because they give you half truths to distort the truth.  For instance they all know way better than the info that they give you about the war.

By the way, Chuck Norris was one of very few celebrities who support conservative politicians. How amazing that you picked a comment out that pointed him out as rediculous?

Anyway, America wake up. Lefties Lying2u

[jimj122680]

Chuck Norris supported Mike Huckabee. Huckabee is a hardly conservative, are you kidding? He is nothing more than a liberal who ran under the "Republican banner". Look at Huckabee's record on a multitude of issues from his open borders stance while Gov. of Arkansas to his tax and spend policies, etc.

[tahoejimmy]

Huckabee is very conservative in his social idealogy. Perhaps he is fiscally different than his republican counterparts. However, apperantly so is President Bush. However, I believe they both represent well, those who believe in a founding father type of reverence for the Almighty and an awe of the offices they hold

[jimj122680]

Yes, religiously Huckabee is conservative. But in every other possible area, he is a raging liberal.

[tahoejimmy]

I am a member of the media and I have to say. Even the way you presented that video was exactly the thing that the media does to distort the news. IN that video you basically showed people who had shirts on that mocked the President of the United States.  You had liberal people who said the media lies. This would lead people to believe that if you don't trust the media it should be because they are too conservative.

That would be the biggest lie you or they could tell.

[graham1995]

cha boi lol but no the media is a giant hog and will perswaye u to go any way IT wants NOT u want