James Hobart and CrossFit New England crush a CrossFit WOD

[fatWOMENsuckTWINKIES]

this is what bothers me... crossfit isnt this new big thing, all it is, is glorified olympic lifting with improper form.

[KINGARTHUR3341]

wtf i thought i saw some retarded dolphins but it turned out there just people doing some type of pull up

[Louie212121]

Instructor says situps much touch chest to knees. Doesn't touch chest to knees.

[losdog01]

If people are so uninterested in crossfit and look down on all the athletes involved, why do they waste their time commenting or even watching the videos of the wod's... it's fine if you have questions, but why hate on something you've never tried. Keep doing your boring 3 sets of 10 and dream about being fit.

[wilforkian]

@losdog01 Speed lifting and cardio to the point of collapsing or vomiting is just plain dumb. How is that healthy? To state that crossfit is THE only way to get fit is even dumber. Thus the crossfit mentality.

[andrademeza]

@wilforkian "kool-aid drinker" i know this is yt but lets try to be alittle grown up...

[tzaunie]

@andrademeza Unfortunately being able to post one's comment does not require the display of any maturity, ethical values, any real effort to be articulate, nor any intelligence. But in the grander scheme of things, what value do any of these comments or arguments we here have on youtube provide, other than to facilitate the dissemination of half truths and fallacies, or to boost our own egos?

[wilforkian]

@andrademeza In the fitness community, the only people that like crossfit are the people that do crossfit. Sorry.

[andrademeza]

@wilforkian there you go...see its not so hard to act grown up.

[sklanger]

'roids and they can't even do 1 real pull-up haha lame.

[tzaunie]

@sklanger That's assuming that they are displaying everything they are capable of physically in every video .

[ChocolatePoop1301]

Why do crossfitters love graphic tees?

[tzaunie]

@ChocolatePoop1301 I think it's just the one's posting pics and videos of themselves. The rest of us could care less. I think that just goes for people in general.

[johnnyex]

using momentum and going for time are both idiotic ideas when it comes to training safely and getting maximum growth. Fucking turds looking for another fad to extract an identity from.

[andrademeza]

@johnnyex so your saying the navy seals that ive seen doing crossfit workouts in coronado beach are a bunch of turds?

[johnnyex]

@andrademeza

are they latching onto crossfit as a source of personal identity?

[andrademeza]

@johnnyex WTF...nobody workouts for identity people workout so they dont look like you. buddy grow the fuck up..get in shape and dont hate...and if you are gonna hate those crossfitters then why come looking at their videos? Do they come bother you? NO THEY DO NOT COME BOTHER YOU...

[johnnyex]

@andrademeza

obviously you have no idea what I'm talking about, so I'm not sure why you even bothered to comment. And the "I'm sure you're a fat person who doesn't workout" is overplayed. To answer your question, I watch workout videos because I like to see things I haven't seen before, and I comment because when I see people doing things incorrectly while being prideful at doing said incorrect thing, it deserves criticism.

[andrademeza]

@johnnyex If its producing the desired results how is it being done incorrectly? maybe its just different to what you know......??

[johnnyex]

@andrademeza

desired results?

I'm not sure what your goals are, but growing muscle and building endurance/cardio fitness are NOT mutually exclusive. Again, I'm not sure what your goals are. If your goal is to simply perform crossfit exercises, then obviously you would need to practice crossfit. But I think most people's goals in terms of fitness are some combination of strength, looks, and health. Crossfit is not ideal in any of these - a personalized program would serve better.

[andrademeza]

@johnnyex Yes desired results...my goals when i started working out again..were to lose weight and gain strength and build cardiovascualr endurance so i can enlist..and i accomplished that already. My goals are not to "perform crossfit exercises" and you said "Crossfit is not ideal in any of these" reffering to strength, looks, and health, sure looks like they are in great shape and look healthy and strong..before you try to descredit a workout program list your qualifications please

[johnnyex]

@andrademeza

Ok, once again...

1. your goals may very well have been strength and cardio, but crossfit is not ideal for either of those.

2. Yes, these people are not fat and they can do hard workouts - that doesn't mean they wouldn't be better off doing something different.

[andrademeza]

@johnnyex why would crossfit not be good for strength and endurance? exaclty what do you have againts crossfit? what is wrong with it? i dont do crossfit but id like to try it out, so id like to know exactly whats wrong with it before i do....explain

[johnnyex]

@andrademeza

3. My "qualifications" are that I've been working out for 5 years with all sorts of methods. After college, I changed my workout methods, and went from 150 to 173 in 3 weeks. After taking a 2 month break, I went from 173 to 197 in 3 months. Probably around 12% bodyfat.

[Blackbearhuntr1]

Pretty impressive. Lots of new techniques.

[wilforkian]

Crossfit exec: How can we get more members?

Marketing: Let the memebers use crappy form and give them olympic plates that weigh nothing so that they feel better about themselves.

Exec: What if they hurt themselves?

Marketing: Who gives a crap they paid up front.

[andrademeza]

@wilforkian why did you come here then? you know..i havent seen too much crossfit so i havent seen their "bad form" but what i do know is these people are in great shape while you....welll....you still avoid looking in the mirror and when you do..you still feel bad...BUT dont worry just lift weights, run, clean up your diet and you'll get there...no need to go bash people who are working on their fitness...cus they are not bothering you.

[wilforkian]

@andrademeza Great. Another kool-aid drinker on here defending the "sport" of crossfit. I was just questioning the marketing tactics of crossfit. Atkins, south beach, crossfit.....all fads that eventually pass.

[MegaJohnny79]

easy, do it with a 40 lbs vest on.

[aaronb2741]

I am willing to bet that more than half of you that are bitching about the "pullups" don't even work out. Who gives a shit what they call them or how they do it? Just know that you can't do them and you're a fucking troll. True "pullups" work upper body STRENGTH, whereas "kips" work CORE and upper body POWER. Give it a rest or go workout. You know who you are.

[MrAstro888]

@aaronb2741 shut up

[johnjaylee]

Why are CrossFit exercise descriptions written as "pull-ups" instead of "kip ups"? I understand that they're different but then why do they write/describe them as "pull-ups"? It makes it appear as if people are doing kip ups b/c they can't do proper pull-ups. Wouldn't it eliminate confusion to simply write down kip ups in the CrossFit WOD descriptions if their intention is for people to actually do kip ups instead of standard pull-ups?

[audreyperez29]

Get off their ass about the "kipups." Half of you sitting at home criticizing them are either the epitome of skinny fat or flat out overweight. Obviously, what they do WORKS. Their physiques are AMAZING.

[BeepimajeepBeep]

@audreyperez29 they are called kip ups though. This is a disgrace to the few of us who can actually do 40 strict pullups, or even more impressive finger board pullups.

[Cixelated]

What the fuck is a pood? Is that the "pull-up" that you guys were doing?

[BSDVIFY]

wrong way of doing KB SWINGS

[kbrebel04]

WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?

Fucking crossfit, completely retarded. Nice pullups BTW

[TheRightjustice]

those guys in the crossfit games look pretty buff and girl have no boobs, must be on the juice then ./.

[audreyperez29]

@TheRightjustice it's called hard work and discipline.

[schoonerchow]

whenever i see crossfit pullups i know there are going to be plenty of negative comments. my older son is force recon marine and younger son was a marine sniper and they have done plenty of dead hang pullups and kipping pullups. they are both functional exercises and have there purpose.

[kkelly851]

@schoonerchow exactly both types of pullups may have there purpose but with that said why doesnt crossfit ever use dead hang pulls in there workouts, its almost like there scared to learn they can only do 7 dead hang pullups

[skylarshabs]

@kkelly851 The Deadhang pull up works an isolated muscle group. The kipping pullups and butterfly pullups (which are used in this video) use more than strict shoulder/lats.

[audreyperez29]

@schoonerchow EXACTLY. thank you. people are so ignorant.

[Topiii3]

pretty gay looking pull ups right there

[88fredmcfred]

How can I loop 0:46 to 0:52 endlessly?

[zamamattiolo]

LMAO

[N1ghts1te]

i fucking hate how they call those pull ups -____-

[TheRightjustice]

Crossfit = women bodybuilding = men

[nnnbbbmmm79]

@TheRightjustice Crossfit= men and women , bodybuilding = men and women (corrected you)

[TheRightjustice]

@nnnbbbmmm79 girls in this dont have boobs lol ./. corrected yu

[MrBmarque1]

EVERYONE DOING THIS CROSS FIT CHALLENGE IS GOING TO EVENTUALLY FUCK THEIR SHIT UP!!! THIS TYPE OF TRAINING IS A ONE WAY TICKET TO THE DOCTORS OFFICE.

[nnnbbbmmm79]

@MrBmarque1 Really? A one way ticket? Like you will never be able to leave the doctor? Ever? Hm, guess I'll take my chances anyway. Be safe on your couch, now!

[neoBAPE1]

i used to do cross fitness but then i took an arrow to the knee.

[tzaunie]

@neoBAPE1 This "...but then I took an arrow to the knee" I've seen a lot now on youtube. I hope it dies like that planking craze.

[omgitsjakelang]

why do people always bitch about the kipping?? i can do 21 perfect Marine Corps pull ups but I can't do handstand push ups to save my life unlike these ripped ass people.

[tzaunie]

@omgitsjakelang They bitch because they don't understand it. But notice they don't bitch about the running, sprinting,rowing, tire-flips, kettle-bell swings, ring muscle ups, ring dips, weighted ring dips, weighted pull-ups, turkish get ups, stone-lifts, dead-lifts, rope climbing, etc...

[johnnyex]

@tzaunie

1. running, sprinting, rowing, weighted pull-ups, and dead-lifts are not cross-fit specific. Probably some of the most common elements of modern workouts.

2. Tire-flips - fine.

3. Kettle-bell swings - no real purpose but high strain on joints in the "catching" phase of the movement, plenty to criticize there.

4. Rings - very few people have tried these but they look good to me, though they allow for a lot of extremely unhealthy shoulder rolling.

[tzaunie]

@johnnyex Crossfit did not invent any of these movements, and it has never claimed to. It's uniqueness is it's underlying philosophy and definition of "fitness". Are you seriously saying that kettle-bell swings or kettlebell training has "no real purpose" or value?

[johnnyex]

@tzaunie

"It" has never claimed to, but you certainly implied that those were crossfit movements.

Kettlebell training is not that different from dumbbell training, so of course it has value.

As far as the swings go, if we define value as benefit minus cost, then no, it doesn't have value.

[tzaunie]

@johnnyex :) If you want to read any implications into my statements, that's up to you. If you want to try to understand what I'm saying, it's better to ask than to assume, generally speaking. As far as the kettlebell training goes you take your criticisms to those legions of kettlebell athletes and ask them.

[johnnyex]

@tzaunie

1. I'm not "reading" anything into your statement. That is what you implied, though I understand that it's very convenient to deny that now.

2. "You take your criticisms" - nice sentence. Anyway, I'm not going to ask questions with criticisms - again, makes no sense. And I said there was nothing wrong with kettlebell training. Reading comprehension = 0.

[tzaunie]

@johnnyex :) What I "said" was that people don't "bitch" about the other movements that we do. Now where in this statement did I imply that these movements are "only" crossfit? Please enlighten me. BTW, I appreciate that you care so much about my grammar. I also appreciate how you like to number out your "points" or whatever they are, but I'm guessing you're doing that for your own benefit rather than that of your readers, because it certainly doesn't make you any more convincing.

[johnnyex]

@tzaunie :)

:) 1. Right, but there's absolutely no reason for people to bitch about those in relation to crossfit because they're not specific to crossfit and tons of non-crossfit people do them. They're established and proven staples of exercise. Why would anyone bitch about them on a crossfit video?

:) 2. No problem, it's easier to read numbered comments than walls of text. Obviously it is for both of us - easier for me to express myself and easier for you to read. :)

[tzaunie]

@johnnyex Exactly my point. Let me make explicit what I am arguing here. The reason I made such a comment was to point out that a lot of the criticism you see on youtube about crossfit has to do with 'kipping' and not the other movements we do that are taken from other disciplines. Now it seems to me that you don't just take issue with kipping and kettle bell swings, but with the underlying philosophy. Is this correct? :D

[johnnyex]

@tzaunie

1. Yes, a lot of the criticisms are directed towards that.

2. What is the underlying philosophy? Functional strength?

[tzaunie]

@johnnyex I understand the criticism with kipping, and to be honest dead-hang pull ups are programmed a lot more frequently than kipping. As for the reason for kipping, that's another long debate. It's underlying philosophy does not just have to do with "functional strength" but rather what is "functional fitness" in terms of the "benefit" of metabolic conditioning. It is true, if you want to build strength or endurance alone, Crossfit is not the best program.

[johnnyex]

@tzaunie

Can you explain more about metabolic conditioning?

[tzaunie]

@johnnyex Metabolic conditioning is a way of utilizing anaerobic exercises within a constrained time domain with high intensity to produce cardio-vascular level of fitness that rivals results of traditional aerobic activities which have been known to result in decreased levels of aerobatic power output or strength. For an example, marathon runners, although they have incredible endurance sacrifice explosiveness. As proof, most long distance runners have a very poor vertical leap height.

[tzaunie]

@tzaunie The benefit or value of metabolic conditioning is it's effectiveness at increasing aerobic capacity without the draw backs of decreased anaerobic output.

[tzaunie]

@tzaunie yeah, that "aerobatic" was supposed to be Anaerobic. damn auto-correct!

[johnnyex]

@tzaunie

1. artificial time constraints in the gym = form slips = injury, especially when doing olympic lifts and rings.

2. "Aerobic activities which have been known to result in decreased levels of anaerobic power" - this is simply not true. I'm not sure where you've read this. It is very, very possible to be strong, big, and have great cardio. Maybe you're just basing this on the fact that anaerobic lifters usually don't give a shit about their cardio, and so have bad cardio?

[tzaunie]

@johnnyex Ok. As far as your point 1, this is a possibility but not indisputable truth. The result of injury has a lot more variables than the presence or absence of any time constraints As far as your point 2, that traditional means of aerobic "training" (i didn't simply say "activity" which you stated, which would just be oversimplifying the issue) does not lead to compromised anaerobic, this simply remains an opinion unless you can give me an example and or proof to demonstrate otherwise.

[tzaunie]

@tzaunie I have given you an example of the marathon runner. The least you could do is to address my example instead of using profanity (for me this simply expresses your inability to articulate yourself and to back any of your arguments without the resorting to verbal aggression).

[johnnyex]

@tzaunie

1. The ONLY reason aerobic activity would lead to decreased anaerobic power is if you either neglected anaerobic exercise, or didn't eat enough to offset the calories burned during aerobic stuff.

2. The whole "profanity equals stupidity" argument doesn't really work. I used "shit" once in a completely non-aggressive, colloquial, and casual way that wasn't directed at you.

3. I completely addressed the example of the marathon runner. Did you read the response?

[tzaunie]

@johnnyex Again, what you point out is besides the point. We are not talking about neglect. I am addressing the nature of aerobic training and what it actually does physically to ones body when trying to achieve near or equal levels of aerobic capacity. As far as the effectiveness of "profanity equals stupidity" is another issue and far from anything I have said..unless you equate inability to articulate with one's intelligence. Yeah, I only saw your response after I commented.

[johnnyex]

@tzaunie

3. marathon runners don't train for explosiveness or anaerobic strength. I mean.. are you being real here? Obviously they are not going to be strong - they are specializing their bodies to the extreme. Any addition of non-useful (for marathons) muscle mass is a bad decision in their case (whether or not being purely a long-distance runner is a good choice at all is another thing to think about).

[tzaunie]

@johnnyex Yes, I am glad you too understand that marathon runners don't train for explosiveness. That wasn't my point at all. Am I being real? Do you mean, am I seriously questioning you? No. I'm trying to explain my point. Like I said, it would really help if you tried to understand what I'm saying instead of glossing over my words. Now what i was driving at is that in their pursuit to develop elite levels of aerobic capacity they will have to sacrifice and give up strength output.

[tzaunie]

@tzaunie No the question is, but I see you've already made your assumptions, whether or not someone can train to have the same or near levels of aerobic capacity as one who trains purely through long distance running/rowing/etc while avoiding or minimizing the compromise of anaerobic output or power?

[johnnyex]

@tzaunie

4. "Marathon runners, although they have incredible endurance sacrifice explosiveness." I'm just going to leave that there for you to look at.

5. What does the fact that marathon runners give up strength/mass/"explosiveness" have to do with this discussion? You say that CF's goal is to give aerobic fitness that rivals pure aerobic training without giving up strength. Then you bring up the marathon runner - CrossFit people do not really approach their running fitness.

[tzaunie]

@johnnyex Yes. thanks for leaving it there to look at, now we have to places to look at the same statement but you still fail to understand my point. Once again it is the nature of their training to achieve that level of endurance. Yes, thank you for identifying the steps i take to make an argument. Now your next challenge is to understand what I am arguing.

[johnnyex]

@tzaunie

Please, I beg you: tell me how I am misunderstanding what you are saying. Please show me where I have failed to grasp something you have tried to say.

Let's take a look at point 6: "you cannot have the same levels of aerobic fitness [between an aerobic athlete and a CF person]." Now, let's compare that to the statement which you claim is different: "A marathon runner will run farther than [a CF person]." The second sentence expounds the first.

[tzaunie]

@johnnyex Let me be clear...The second statement being "A marathon runner will run farther than a [CF person]" expounds the first which is that "someone using CF training will not reach the same aerobic levels"...This is your claim is it not? Is there anything here you want to qualify before I proceed to grant your request? And may I ask, Is this request one that is done with the sincere intent to learn or is it to further ridicule?

[johnnyex]

@tzaunie

6. Yes, but you cannot have the same levels of aerobic fitness. A marathon runner will run farther than someone who just trains using CrossFit workouts.

7. Not sure what I said that was "stating the obvious" - you might want to watch your tone lest you become just as aggressive as you accused me of being, by the way.

[tzaunie]

@johnnyex Your point number six and your statement "A marathon runner will run farther than someone who just trains using CrossFit workouts" are saying two similar but very different things. Achieving a level of aerobic capacity and being able to running further, although related are NOT equal. Would you like me to explain why? As far as my tone, it's apparent to me and doesn't warrant my further attention unless it hurts your feelings.

[johnnyex]

@tzaunie

You don't have to explain why achieving "a level" of aerobic fitness and being able to run further than a CF person are NOT equal, because they are already NOT equal. It's comparing two different things: a CF person and a marathon runner.

[tzaunie]

It appears here that you are no longer holding to your statement that the "second" statement expounds the "first"...or am I mistaken?

[johnnyex]

@omgitsjakelang not really equivalent exercises, obviously

[tzaunie]

@johnnyex It would be nice if you wouldn't restate the obvious, but if that helps you, fine..but it does nothing to help convince anyone, especially me, of what you are arguing.

[EFTGym]

GEE - ALWAYS SO CEATIVE

ITS THE SAME SHITTY SHIT EVERY TIME WITH CROSSSHIT

[fatWOMENsuckTWINKIES]

since when did swinging become proper form of pull ups.

[northbrian131]

if ur trying to do pull ups and u cant do the whole set you shot for have some one hold ur legs and use them as little as possible, its better to finish the set with help then not at all kippin lets u get a set of 50 pull ups in

[northbrian131]

these kind of pull ups are what the workout is for what its meant to do... they arent body building yes kipping is easier we get it jesus

[spot603]

You could have picked better music -_- This sounds like some indie-rock, Jonas brothers shit

[TheRagges]

omg, every time with the fucking pullup debate. I wish they would just rename them

[SuperMartinoBrother]

For fuck's sake; it's as if ninety per-cent of people have never seen pullups done in any way other than hang from a bar and pull like fuck. There are other ways do them so go and learn some new movements.

[erhajj]

@SuperMartinoBrother There are lots of ways to do pull ups. That said, however, I think that what is done in this video are kips and not pull ups. Kips may have some value, though I am not convinced of that, but they are not equal to pull ups and it is inaccurate to refer to what is done in this video as pull ups.

[SuperMartinoBrother]

@erhajj The motion is a "pull up" quite literally because of the big, pull in an upward motion, nothing to do with the way it looks or the way that it is executed. Yes, it is called a "kipping pull up" because of the involvement in the hips; i guess we have gymnastics to thank for that. This movement is not beneficial to bodybuilders as it does not isolate any muscle group; it is a powerful movement, not a movement of strength.

[erhajj]

@SuperMartinoBrother Powerful as in explosive? I will give you that. I guess I would not have any problem with it if it were listed on the workout list as a kipping pull up rather than a pull up.

[SuperMartinoBrother]

@erhajj Understandable. Proper terminology keeps confusion away in most cases.

[erhajj]

@SuperMartinoBrother Totally agreed. We just engaged in a reasonable discussion of a disagreement with a consensual resolution on a youtube comment board. What is the world coming to?

[CausaMortis86]

Ugh, if you don't like the kipping pullups or crossfit for that matter don't watch the video! Kipping is used to engage the core, add cardio and coordination. It's also is a gymnastic movement. Gymnastics is part of crossfit. To add my own personal argument, if you were hanging from something and it were life and death you probably wouldn't dead hang pull yourself up. FUNCTIONAL FITNESS. Movements that directly correlate to everyday activities and survival. Also, we do plenty of deadhand pulls

[applesauceis22]

@CausaMortis86 If you're hanging from a ledge how are you going to kip up? You'd hit the building and fall. As for me, I'd do 20 dead hang pull ups for the lulz before pulling myself up.

[ArCxlioN]

@applesauceis22 there are plenty of life situations where you'd need to pull up or muscle up using your whole body or "the kip". and there are plenty of life situations where you would need to be able to pull strict. developing BOTH is beneficial and there are plenty of crossfit WODs that use both. people are so fucking stupid they can't understand anything that's not in a magazine.

[007Chazo]

Those are rotation pullups..

[MartinBlass]

I thought this was going to be good... But OMG the pull ups :-(

[grayandgray]

Funny reading about kips vs pullups. Crossfit gets to define their workouts as they see fit. I like rowing with leg drive, are there "purists" who like arms only?

[gzachary9941]

swing-ups?

[kyleanthonyowens]

Looks like a bunch of fuckin floppy fish when they do pull-ups.

[biax123456]

crossfit revolves around explosiveness/jerking you body to create momentum first and then using muscles to life weight/body. this way crossfit folks lift less weight lot more times then big muscular guys but get beat when doing really heavy weights slowly&controlled. Beginners of crossfit should be warned and train using slow and controlled movements for a first few months or a year or so to avoid long term effects on your joints that you may not notice untill a 10-15years later.

[durianriders]

'PULL UPS' LMFAO!!!

That dude was trying to hump the bar lol!!!

Crossfit is for people that aint good at other sports but want to own the fattie crowd in the low carb gym lol!

Barry Sears is their nutritional guru. He is overweight and out of shape.

[LHD4life]

@durianriders Um what does pretty much EVERY sport require? FITNESS dickhead. Fitness is a sport.

[mtbkbmt]

This may be a new method of exercising to the treadmill/bench press crowd, but you're not breaking new ground in the exercise world. Maybe the Crossfit crowd would get a bit more respect if you quit calling those spastic swinging things you do "Pull Ups" and slow down just a bit so that you can concentrate on proper form with your other resistance exercises.

[logan1273]

the crossfit ppl try to put as many pull ups in their routines as possible, in order to impress, so they all widly except this "style" to doing them for numbers instead of effectivness. The ppl of crossfit are the ONLY ones who except this as a pull up.

[cellerpower]

@logan1273 I don't do crossfit and I don't do those sort of momentum pull ups (kipping pull ups I think they are called) but I am amused by all the people who comment negatively towards them saying it's all about "numbers" etc. Who cares what they do...well people like you care... it seams it's also about numbers and ego to all the haters, as they hate other people claiming to do so many more 'pull us' than them. get over it. don't watch cross-fit vids if you don't like their style.

[tzaunie]

@cellerpower yeah, I don't know what it is about people getting their butt hurt by seeing people doing kip-ups..yet no one complains about the hand-stand push-ups or the kettle-bell swings. You know what else no one complains about that crossfitters do? Ring muscle-ups, dead-lifts, box jumps, running, weighted pull-ups, weighted-ring dips, burpees, GHD sit-ups, medicine-ball throws, turkish get-ups, tire-flips...but they always gotta hate on kipping pull-up.

[dirtynate42]

I still dont believe this should be your entire week of working out.

[tzaunie]

@dirtynate42 If you have ever checked the crossfit mainsite you'd realize that it isn't. Not everyday is a met-con wod (metabolic conditioning workout) like this. An average week for the crossfit program includes 2 or 3 days of met-con with 2 or 3 days of strength work, along with 2 days of rest.

[dirtynate42]

@tzaunie  What do the strength days consist of?

[tzaunie]

@dirtynate42 usually something out of the page of the Westside Barbell Conjugate System or one rep max efforts days...involving deadlifts or squats or bench press, cleans...etc.

[tzaunie]

@dirtynate42 if you want a more strength biased program check out crossfit football.

[thecityalive]

Zero pull ups were done this day.

[cheezeluver4]

@thecityalive whats a pullup? chin over the bar, lift your body weight. theyre doing exactly that, just using momentum.

[mrjo0e1]

@thecityalive they're called chest to bar pull ups and they are supposed to be done that way dumbass.

[krazzyyo2]

@mrjo0e1 no you fucking moron

[pumitaproductions]

@thecityalive Personally I think the first time you pull yourself up counts as a pull up regardless of kip or not. All the subsequent pull ups in the chain are just harvesting potential and kinetic energy. Similar to doing a snatch and then catching the bounced plate. But you still have to generate energy for the first snatch.

[urhunted]

@thecityalive and a lot of kippin' has been done this day

[TheSK818]

@thecityalive should say 40 momentum swings

[jordanbuns]

@thecityalive they are called butterfly pullups...i know they look stupid but i want to see you try them...there are hard as shit

[rolex2136]

@thecityalive lmfao i was laughing my ass off when they started doing that shit

[iwanarideonachoochoo]

yall like like a buncha retarded mokeys

[1775bigmac]

@iwanarideonachoochoo Monkeys are pretty fit ain't they??? Hey, you've got some gravy on your shirt...

[oleesquivel87]

and to think nba players make millions and yet these amazing athletes dont get the props they deserve..... fucking shame

[kovelev]

Why do their KB swings go up and not out in an arc? There's very little tension in your muscles when you go straight up.

[matinnjr]

the Setup is HUGE!

[buffmedic01]

@JM081779 Kip ups are not considered pullups. We do plenty of "proper form" pull ups, chin ups and variations included weighted. Kip ups are used more for cardio and core than back. They also help when learning muscle ups. This is not about muscle isolation every time as much as it is about cardio and full body conditioning.

[Cixelated]

@buffmedic01 Then don't name them pull-ups. There's a distinct difference.

[ISRAELKING100]

@Cixelated they call them pull ups cuz they want to give this silent hint that at crossfit actually the ''right'' pull ups r done...

[tacp20th]

This style of pullup is incredibly efficent espically when you running into the 25-35 rep range or even 100 rep range. What didn't you like about it? The same amount of "work" is still being done. Your body is still moving the same amount of distance only faster. So if anything we're creating more "work" which will give us better results. It's all about the end result.

[MrJojogunther]

I usually dont like cross fit workouts but this one is ok. But seriously were those really pullups?

[dougdoug2006]

The American KB swing is an abomination.

[jstrengthconditionin]

I think I've done that WOD from Gym Jones.

[nikkisixxual]

Please don't call kip-ups, pull-ups. They aren't.

[mrkitanai1]

@nikkisixxual No Sense telling the CF cult this. They don't listen. They will continue to call Kipping pullups "pullups". THey are too busy drinking the Kool Aid to listen.

[Draakur]

Is it typical for even extremely athletic women to use the knee push up technique in WODs? I've seen this a few times and wasn't sure.

[DomhofJ]

Wow guys.. Amazing time on a pretty devastating WOD!

[philcoool]

RANKING RESULTS 2012

Indoor Rower | 4 minutes | Men's | Lightweight | Ages 50-59 | Current 2012 Season

You are number 1 of 11

Place [?] Name Age City State Country Distance Source Type

1 Phillip Cameron 50 Birmingham West Midlands GBR 1121 IND

2 Richard Hessey 54 Edinburgh GBR 1094 IND I

3 Paul Ryan 51 Melbourne Victoria AUS 1089 IND I

4 Daniel Sauers 54 Winona MN USA 1087 C2Log I

I am Phillip Cameron.

[MyLifeChanger]

really cool! I still don't understand the benefits of kipping pullups though

[jbandkg100]

@MyLifeChanger It's actually pretty simple. Using momentum = higher reps = greater intensity = greater results.

[MyLifeChanger]

@jbandkg100 greater results? that's a bit generalizing... what do you mean by better results?

[jbandkg100]

@MyLifeChanger Its all relevant.

[nikkisixxual]

@jbandkg100

Momentum = less results.

[austinman1712]

@nikkisixxual hahahaha what?! wow. ignorance at its finest

[UUreviews]

@MyLifeChanger the idea is more power output, in a scientific way it makes sense...work done is mass over a distance (your weight pulled up so chin is over bar), so the amount of work done in 1 kip equals work done in 1 deadhang. power equals work divided by time. you can do 30 kip pullups MUCH faster than 30 deadhang pullups, so power output is greater... If you want to isolate your lats cause you want them to get a bit bigger in relation to rest of your body, then deadhangs are what you want.

[UUreviews]

Also, the reason it is the same amount of "work" but easier to do is because the work is distributed over more muscles, so again, if you want to isolate your lats do deadhangs. If you want to mix pullups into a high intensity workout in order to get more fit, do kips...

benefits to both.