Not very much happened at Nicea. There for, its quick and easy to read the historical records of Nicea. You will find that no vote ever took place. The only source that says Jesus's divinity was voted on is the Divinci Code. The fact that people voted at Nicea was a concept unknown to the world before the Divinci Code.
There was never a vote, and all encyclopedias agree on that.
@truthforchrist how can you prove that? you cant guarantee what encyclopedia says on that matter, because even the bible extract the missing real script by the council of nicea. the real history of nicea also hide by the high religious people which where you get your reference.
@YarnhojPay If you can't trust encyclopedias written by people with PHDs in the subject, then who can you trust? Believe what you want about religion or faith, but at least look at evidence when making a claim or when someone makes a claim.
The fact is, not a single person in the world ever said "Christ's divinity was voted on at Nicea" until after the Divinci Code. It wasn't until that movie / book came out that conspiricy theorys about Nicea emerged.
Lol this is so flawed, it's not even funny. You'd learn more from simply reading a Bart Ehrman book. At least he has the background to give some credibility to his work. This is biased propaganda.
I'm going back to the academic route and actually reading to gain knowledge. Videos like this will be used when I need my funny bone tickled. lol
The Council of Nicea was the Catholic Ch. being formed and had nothing to do with the True church of Jesus ! It was the Old Roman Empire being turned into a religion. There was over 100 Million+ that had nothing to do with this council at all ! It was only the Roman Empire being turned into a religion.
Dark ages was about the Catholic Ch. that took over religion and band all reading of the bible. If you owned a bible you was burned at the stake ! This was the Dark Ages 320 ad to 1600 !
@turtle4aire boy what an idiot the church was well established long before Constantine who were those 181 Bishops he called to the council he didn't form anything. The catholic faith wasn't made the official religion of Rome till long after his death. Id love to hear about this over 100 million that far exceeds the population by ten fold what a dope. The Dark ages were caused by the fall of Rome and barbarian war lords piliaging the people fled to the church for protection.
@turtle4aire By the way that's nonsense too if you owned a bible you'd be burnt at the stake first off the printing press wasnt invented second you could afford to own a bible they were all hand copied which took over a year, third most all the people couldn't read or write like you by the way you should really give proof of your accusations buts I guess that something a lying bigot refuses to do
the council (325) simply failed to understand that a metaphor can not be taken as literal. the dialect of the many of holy prophets spoke in idioms as well as parables. this style of language can be read in poetry. i think that the niceans also took a word / expression out of context. ie., the jews misunderstood the style of dialogue found in jn.10:30.
i can tell you that i'm a rational person. i can also tell you that a number is also rational. misconception will make you slip...
The council corrupted the Bibles teaching and did infuluence some translations.Mark 10:18 Luke 18:19 John 14:28 Luke 22:42 John3:35 John 5:19,20,22,23,special note to vs 26 and 27 ,John 6:27 put seal of approval on self?John 7:16,29./John 8:12 John 8:49,50 John 10:18,29.John 11:41 thanks himself ,John12:49, John 13:1614:16 /
John 15:15 Learned from the Father (while in heaven)
If anyone would like to watch my series called The Truth about the Trinity, please check them out. There are tons of scriptures on how we should believe. Thank you. :)
Biblical Old Testament "I AM" (Ex 3:13) means YaHWeH (ie., Personal Name of God). I AM means God in Hebrew lingustic philology! When JESUS claimed it the Jews understood clearly without any interpreters or commentators.
Jews said to JESUS,"We are not stoning you for any of these,but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
JESUS claimed Divinity! Jews understood, questioned & tried to kill! JESUS never denied but claimed all the more!!!
@YourHaunting4Life All religion is a lie not just islam. If you believe your religion is better than theirs your dumb ass shit because all relgion bullshit!!
@joryvans: You are a clueless person that is manipulated too. You cannot present logical arguments so you resort to ignorant obscenities. Keep sucking down the lies. You are so lost.
@YourHaunting4Life Dude i am a christain...Ohh no did you think i was a muslim...i just hate when people like you go around and make insults to other religions...n u call urself a christian.u should b breaking the barriers that divide mankind and look for the common msg which Jesus, Bhudda and all the prophets of other religion claimed. Am i a manipulated person for believing that all religion had a pure message which was unfortunately corupted??? then yes i am manipulated
@YourHaunting4Life but u know wat, i am chirstian bcoz i was born in a christian family n country and educated as such.My belief is not the REAL me,its my heritage.when i learn about all other religions,put aside the customs,myths,political corruptions etc,they all share the same msg.LOOK INSIDE U N SEARCH YOUR TRUE SELF,thru mediation/prayers to become self aware an elevate urself spiritually/consciously.as jesus said 'God is within you,U r in HIS image..Atman is Brahman...thats me philosophy
@joryvans: Take your New Age nonsense to the toilet. There is only one Truth.
I never insulted any religion; but it is typical of manipulated people like you to accuse other people of intolerance and hate because they do not agree with your New Age lies. I never insulted Islam, rather I recognize it as being a lie too and Muhammad was a false prophet. I did not call him or any Muslims names. I am NOT judging anybody, rather I am recognizing them and their religions as being wrong and some lies
what is the truth, Mr know-it-all??u say Islam is a lie,but the Kuran contains the names of Jesus,adam n eve,Moses n Abraham...so r these people lies??the main diference is that they dont see Jesus as equally God..in some places in the holy land,muslim n christian share the same shrines??if one is false, the other surely is false as they have the same origins??is it to b ignorant to b asking oneself where the truth lies within himself, intead of blindly believing what other people says??
@joryvans: NOR do they see Jesus as the Son of God and the Savior of all whom seek Him. The context the Quran writes about Jesus is a LIE. Use your brain. Do you have any critical thinking skills? Having the same shrines does NOT mean they use it in the same context. Even an 8 year old can see the difference. There is NO truth within yourself nor within anybody including myself without Christ. Listen to yourself - you talk about "truth" then you bring up relativist arguments... lame.
so basically, the non-christian world is doomed..only because they were not born or grown up as a christian..good i was born a catholic then ? or not? can catholism be a lie as well?u sound like u know which among the million of christian groups is the right one..ok i wont try to find the 'truth' for myself..islam n all other religions are lies...no need to look for deep connection/msg..i will never question Jesus nature, coruption of christianity never occured..whatever u say is true...bye :-)
@joryvans: Look at the history while you have an open mind and heart. Most "christian" groups and churches are a joke. There are only 4 Churches, although divided they are still one Christian Church, that dates back to the Resurrection of Christ. Think about it. These 4 Churches were One before they were divided but even in their division they are still Christ's Church as they have VALID Sacraments and Apostolic Succession. I won't tell u them. You must think and look at the history to see it.
i believe i know the ones u r referring to.dont worry i leanred about the history of christianity bcoz i wanted to know WHY my faith is the way it is.n i know it is greatly flawed.but as u so nicely said,i am a 'new age nonsense'.for me spirituality is more important than religion.i focus on Jesus teaching whether than his nature or flaws.i reconciliate his teachings with other religious teachings,conciousness,meditation n even quantum physics n string theory.so yeah,as u say i am manipuated..
@joryvans: The Word of God is NOT a religion nor is His true Church (dates back to His resurrection). Christ's true Church is His word and it's a relationship with Him, NOT a religion. Religion is the other many "christian" churches that broke away from Truth. Religion is also the non-Christian belief systems.
Jesus has NO flaws. You criticize religion BUT then you say "i reconciliate his teachings with other RELIGIOUS teachings..." This is a contradiction and the logic is flawed.
This is historically inaccurate, uninformed and propaganistic with an agenda not hidden. They did not bring up the subject of the canon of scripture at all. So the part about a discussion of the scripture and divination is a lie. The four gospels and the other books were listed in the 2nd century.
God doesn't have a lineage, and he doesn't have grand children and great grand children like we do ok. He came in the big bang and in that glory, but that source does not go through a family expression and lives on like that. His purpose is to create and I don't dare say further his will. His will or goal in the universe is what really will tell why there is no son of god issue. His issue is supreme and words can't describe it.
the torah the koran the bible all bronze age beliefs I wished i lived in the future when these plauges have all been destroyed there is some much more usefull and meaningfull books in the world they slow are progress as a speices Im not saying that all religious people are dumb or bad some are good some are smart but I think the universe is more beautifull and meaningfull through the eyes of science and the true understanding of who we are and were we fit in this existince
Before a person accepts Jesus as Lord they are more sensitive to their body and corrupted soul rather than to their spirit. When a person truly believes in Jesus as the only begotten Son of God their life is transformed by the Holy Spirit. Believers receive the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit, in them. A person who has the Holy Spirit in them becomes more sensitive to their spirit because God’s Holy Spirit communicates with us through our spirit. no way to God without his son Jesus.
@austriaheute i think its the devil communicating with them instead of god. and remember lucifer was made from a light. and he can make u feel whatever u thought u were gunna feel by believing that jesus is son of god. and its true christians appear to be succesful in there choice. some get wealthy have kids. good health. but that cant be true. because jesus said the first will be last and the last will be first. he cant be talking about the christian mass of today. there the first. whos last?
The doctin of the trinity's modern interpritation is really a coruption it peresents the father the son and the holy spirit as three equal entities instead of a heirarchey Y'shua himself said he and the father are one and the father is greater than him not equal not the oppisite but y'shua being part of G-D coming from the father as a son and a father do.
god is the father son and holy spirit. if you think god can not be a man, how dare you think what god can or can not do or be! if god wishes to reveal himself as a rock, so be it. for all you non believers, you will learn the truth upon your death. so continue gambling with your beliefs and hope for salvation. peace be with you
Perhaps, everyone is correct. When you view what is known from its own unique perspective. Jesus is the son of God & isn’t, depending upon your associations with those words. God does & does not exist depending upon what your definition of God is. Think Multidimensional here & end the anger & hatred among people on this subject.
WE HAVE A (GRACE AND PEACE) FROM ALL 3 MEMBERS OF THE TRINITY IN 2 VERSES.
Revelation 1:4-5 (KJV)
4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come;(GOD THE FATHER) AND from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; (GOD THE HOLY GHOST)
5AND from Jesus Christ, (GOD THE SON) who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth.
Even the texts accepted as canonical are different in ancient texts. I believe some Syriac texts say "It's easier for a ROPE to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven." Makes more sense, doesn't it?
The Muslim are tainted as well sorry to say that and it must come as a shocker to u as well, The 12 tribes of scatter Isreal who is in a covenant with YAhuwah the Most High and his son Yahusha are coming out of all religons. this was a promise covenant thats stand today.
@rickru1 while muslims don't accept jesus as their "lord and savior", they do agree that he was born of the virgin mary and he is one of God's greatest prophets. if people call jesus the son of God because of his birth to a virgin then adam deserves the title "son of God" more because he had no mother or father!
@trinidadparaminman The Islamic Catch-22." We know that Jesus predicted His violent and imminent death. Either these things came to pass and the Quran is in error for claiming they did not, or they did not come to pass and the Quran is in error for treating Jesus as a great Prophet when, in fact, Hed be a false prophet for prophesying incorrectly.
Oh yes another muslim feels obligated to tell the truth about christianity because of course the only faith is islam and its followers are the purest,,,give it up ! damn u loosers are u on a mission or something by ur local leader? U spend ur time researching to make ur point? Bravo a good muslim u have done ur duty heaven awaits,,,The shear stupidity of monotheistic faith: convert,convert convert by all means necessary
Oh yes another muslim feels obligated to tell the truth about christianity because of course the only faith is islam and its followers are the purest,,,give it up ! damn u loosers are u on a mission or something by ur local leader? U spend ur time researching to make ur point? Bravo a good muslim u have done ur duty heaven awaits,,,The shear stupidity of monotheistic faith: convert,convert convert by all means necessary
maybe your 14 yr is not but mine IS, she can debate anyone under the table on almost anything, she is an advent reader on many subjects especially religion.
if your going to ridicule someone for his mistakes at least point out his mistakes for the rest of people who don't see them. What mistakes did you 14-year old acknowledge?
The New Testament we read today, is not the product of the Council of Nicea. By the time of the Council of Nicaea in AD 325 (which the Emperor Constantine convened, but the gathering of 318 bishops made the decisions), the issue of what would be included in the Bible was not even debated.
The deliberations of the Council focused on the deity of Christ, and the authority of the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, was taken for granted by all the bishops present. The final statements regarding formal recognition of the 27 books of the New Testament that we have today (what we call the Canon) were made at African synods (at Hippo and Carthage) in AD 393 and 397.
the Canon was decided by God and recognized by man. Leading New Testament scholar F.F. Bruce put it:
The New Testament books did not become authoritative for the Church because they were formally included in a canonical list; on the contrary, the Church included them in her canon because she already regarded them as divinely inspired, . [Church] councils [did] not impose something new upon the Christian communities but codif[ied] what was already the general practice of those communities.'
The council of Nicea had nothing to do with the cannon of scripture!
Then you said a significant majority of Christians at this time believed Christ to be a mortal Prophet? Where's the proof?
Can you please state the name of the so called prevailing sect that believed exactly the same as Muslims regarding Christ? Not only that but the most ancient proof of there existence as well please..
The real difference between the Pauline Christians and the Mohamedan Muslims are the monotheistic traits.
Muslims = Unitarian
Christians = Tri-Nitarian
But both are monotheistic in worship.
The muslims believe that God is eternally one whilst in Pauline texts and the Romanized Christianity states that God is One yet in 3 Different Beings.
The 1st and 2nd Century followers were UNITARIAN . Yes they had holy father holy son and holy spirit but GOD IS ONE.
Read The Bible again and look out for clues. In pure Christianity which is purely monotheistic before the romanized christianity - that integrated the greek and roman ideologies into the teachings of the apostles.
Another fact ; Jesus is brown or tanned in terms skin color and had white hair similar to those as lambs. Soft curly white hair.
So the Jesus of Catholic Church is fake as that is the SON of the 6th POPE .
Very intesting vid. I knew most of this info, which more or less is hystorically correct(as far as we know). But didn't Mohhamed based his own religion on christian teachings???How do we know that christianity is corrupted??? because mohhammed said so....huhhh...so it must be truth then.......
Life before Emporer Constatine and the Council of Nicaea must have been so much more definate (concerning the Word). Oh well, at least we have the internet and other sources to find truth. Thanks for posting! I like that last bit about witch craft ; ) lol
this video is false. jesus was considered divien long before constantine we have pre-constantine NT papyrii and writings of early church fathers 200 years before nciea oproving it. constantne did nto change the bible at all.
If that's true, it still doesn't mean that Yahshua is Yahveh. I believe that they are sovereign, but not equal or the same. At the end of John 14:28 it says, "...for My Father is greater than I." It also says not to pray to Him, but His Father.
It's not much different from a king and his prince. Why is this so horrible of a concept?
I don't want to sound like I think I'm absolutely right. I could be wrong.
The real difference between the Pauline Christians and the Mohamedan Muslims are the monotheistic traits.
Muslims = Unitarian
Christians = Tri-Nitarian
But both are monotheistic in worship.
The muslims believe that God is eternally one whilst in Pauline texts and the Romanized Christianity states that God is One yet in 3 Different Beings.
The 1st and 2nd Century followers were UNITARIAN . Yes they had holy father holy son and holy spirit but GOD IS ONE.
Please,check out Hosea 13:4,Deut 6:4,Deut 32:39 to know who our ONLY Saviour is.Exodus 4:22 tells us who the Most High's first born son is.The N.T is NOT from the Most High.
Watching this video I can assume that the narrator is Muslim. He makes a big deal about how the bishops where illiterate. If Im not mistaken wasn't the prophet Muhammad illiterate as well? An he is the person who told his followers the Qu'ran, but they didn't write the Qu'ran, because they where illiterate as well. It was the generation after them that wrote it. And even they wrote it without vowels because the Arabic language was not fully developed at that time. Where is the video about that?
that is stupid lolll...the Quran wasnt revealed as something WRITTEN...the Quran means to RECITE. The Quran is ORAL...it is only written to teach young children and other people to read it...you can throw all Qurans in the world but it is still here as there are many who know it off by heart.
raginggaijin, you are a fool completely blinded by BS wake up. You believe in a space being that has never been proven as real nor ever revealed itself oh unless you include the myths of these ridiculous scriptures in these phony religions. The only thing man has ever truly believed in is money, power, and pussy no god. But they use religion to control and manipulate people into doing their bidding making us constantly fight and hate each other while they make off with the pot of gold.
I believe that the Bible is merely an "Astrotheological Literary Hybrid", based on Pagan myths and legends.
The fact that during the Nicean Council in 325 Roman Emperor Constantinus introduced "Sunday" as the day of worship, forever separating it from the Sabbath on Friday, only strengthens that point.
During that council the Pagan or Babylon based doctrine of the Holy Trinity (Semiramis, Tammuz, Baal) was also introduced and enforced.
The only GOD I know is the UNIVERSE as a whole! Without the SUN we would die, without rain we would die, without air we would die, so you tell me whats GOD and whats not.
the universe we're all energy energy is neither created nor destroyed. We're all manifestation of that original energy. How was it created impossible energy is never created and neither were we
Both christianity and islam were created by men. Christianity was created by the Council of Nicea. Islam was created by Muhammed. He wrote the Quran for political purposes to justify violence and wars against tribes as he conquered them.
Raginggaijin -> get your nose out of the Quran long enough to read historical facts of Muhammed's life. Any real history book (not a religious text) on Muhammed will present the facts of how Muhammed wrote sections of the Quran to justify his wars and attacks on different groups/tribes.
Guess what raginggaijin ..... there is no God. Just your own fantasies. All scripture were written by men for men. You believe fairytales and fantasies.
Christians can be shown multiple times in Scripture that Jesus is not God, God does not like being associate with partners or equals, God is not a man, God does not change, God does not die, and God is our Savior, yet they will ignore all these Scriptures to hold onto the luciferian doctrine of man.
Please,check out Hosea 13:4,Deut 6:4,Deut 32:39 to know who our ONLY Saviour is.Exodus 4:22 tells us who the Most High's first born son is.The N.T is NOT from the Most High.
@raginggaijin lol now thats rich. i suppose u know what god is and what he is not.. i suppose you know god personally. the problem with muslims is they put LIMITATIONS on what god can and cannot do..that may well be for allah the moon god of islam but the god of jews and christians is yhwh and he has no limits on what can be done.
The video and information would be more trustable, if the smart guy didn't use mockery with some unwanted and stupid clips from simpsons or vote for Jesus. Muslims don't forget that Jesus (Isa A:) still our Prophet and every effort should be made to maintain his dignity and honor. Have healthy debate or dialogue without attacking anybody or group, otherwise don't malign the religion. Peace be upon you.
If JESUS is the EXpress image of the INVISIBLE GOD.... what invisible GOD(THEOS) is He the visible image(IKON) of? THE Father? GOD THE SON? GOD THE HOLY GHOST? IF THEOS means simply GOD . And GOD is triune, then Jesus is the express image of the invisible TRINITY?
I don't think so my friends, JESUS IS THE VISIBLE MANIFESTION OF THE INVISIBLE GOD( THE FATHER). GOD IS ONE! Heb 1:3 COL 1:13
John 1:1 In the beginning was the WORD(LOGOS) and the logos was with GOD(THEOS) and the logos was theos.
There is only One, True God worthy of worship: Our Creator.
Jesus is not God.
You are My witnesses, declares YHWH, And My servant whom I have chosen, so that you know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. BEFORE ME THERE WAS NO GOD FORMED, NOR AFTER ME THERE IS NONE. I, I am YHWH, and besides Me there is no savior. I, I have declared and saved, and made known, and there was no foreign mighty one among you. And you are my witnesses, declares YHWH, that I am God. Isaiah 43:10-12
That was a great video and you did a wonderful job. I would like to know where you got the information the four books ending up on the table. If you could email me the books with the info I would like to see them or it.
Now we know that Goodacre and clan are your sources. We can't trust any of it. This vid is at best pure theory and at worst lies. Where are you studying Abdullah? I need to write to the professors there. They are filling your head with the wrong information.
yes word is how god brings everything into existence....he says "be" and it appears...god says "be" and jesus appeared...so jesus is the WORD in flesh..hes a product of the word, quran says same exact thing so that doesn't prove anything!
this is ridiculous! you quote the minority view as correct, only 2 bishops voted for a non-divine Jesus. also, it was well established a couple of hundred years before in the gospels about the trinity and divinity of Jesus.
If it was manipulated on which books to include, God made sure for the truth to come out. Like claiming Jesus is GOD is not true. A 3-in-1 God is not true. All the prophecy from the bible about the teachings of evil happened already and still at the present time.
So I guess is Bush is rejected by many but the powerful elite after all. LOL. I want a National Holiday about the rescue of the Constitution and Bill of Rights and we can celebrate with a reenactment of hanging bush and his buddies!
I recently read an article by Wayne Madsen, in which the Pope John Paul II states that Bush behavior and attitude are anything but Christian. It was entitled, Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult.
are we forgetting the violent past of the roman empire. vicious in nature. they tricked americans into believing that it was a christian nation while they worked as a catholic roman empire government. hail hitler/bush, same thing backed by the roman empire.
There is another really horrible thing that the creator of this video is sadly forgetting. IT IS CALLED TRADITION!!! The tradition that was passed by Apostles from the first century of Christ to the people of the different nations and the fathers who accepted it. If we read all the overwhelming writings we see what is mostly accepted. Now, whoever claimed that they cast lots to figure out which gospels were true is just PURE BS!!
Read their writings, read which books the overwhelming majority of Christians agreed on where true. They were accepted long before the fourth century, in fact they were met with most agreement except on a three books, with whom again the vast majority called inspired, but who a significant small minority felt should be left outside of the canon like the book of Revelation and two Pauline epistles.
Similarly, there are a number of books that I consider inspired but I know are extracanonical for example the Shepherd of Hermas, and the Didache, and the Epistles of the Apostolic Fathers (St. Ignatius and St. Polycarp), whose teachings lie OVERWHELMINGLY and correspond to those of the four gospels and the Pauline and Catholic Epistles. Don't buy into this anti-Christian propaganda. At least, if you are going to speak out against Christianity speak out with solid facts and real references.
You need to see the division between catholic bush and real christians. The catholic bush is for the roman empire world domination while the real christians shall die in the name of jesus and god. the roman empire kills with the deception of claiming christianity. Real christians dont harm others.
"He needed a new gimick"? Talk about bias. Those "illerate" men apparently knew the writings of the Apostolic Fathers, and, perhaps, the pagan Pliny the Younger's letter to Trajan!
no matter how much muslims squirm in the dirth to proove islam,they always finish by making fools of themselves..intellectual cowardice is a terrible thing indeed!!!!!!!
Same Substance, Different Substance, Similar Substance, identical but separate substance, different but conjoined substance, Insubstantial Substance, Three substances in one. Choose one and murder any who disagree. So sayeth the priests of the Lord of Peace, who came not to bring peace but a sword :D
Now and again a religious person says that to me and I laugh. Virtually the whole religious population read things to their own advantage; it's called giving sermons. Besides, if they are God's literal truth, then how can they be misinterpreted by a powerless mortal like me ?
You don't realize that your whole society is based on rules that are religious ones, and that it only holds together because people are respecting them... Though they don't know why. Technically speaking, if there is no God, then why should I respect your life, if you have what I want I shall just kill you right? We are just animals
We r animals we perhaps don't kill 2 conquer ones property anymore, like in ancient and medieval periods, but look at leaders of corporations, they r very cut throat, it's all about me,me,me. Most rules have been handed down,not by religion, but thru trial and error. God bless.
So has the truth within the Quran changed with the times. Could God not protect his word (bible) and truth within it. Is his word not from everlasting to everlasting, who could corrupt GODs word? The doctrine of change within the bible is not even founded in the Quran but in the doctrines of so called teachers.
Somebody has been watching too much Davinci code, instead of fnding out what the actual history is.
fernieboy100 2 months ago
Not very much happened at Nicea. There for, its quick and easy to read the historical records of Nicea. You will find that no vote ever took place. The only source that says Jesus's divinity was voted on is the Divinci Code. The fact that people voted at Nicea was a concept unknown to the world before the Divinci Code.
There was never a vote, and all encyclopedias agree on that.
truthforchrist 4 months ago
@truthforchrist how can you prove that? you cant guarantee what encyclopedia says on that matter, because even the bible extract the missing real script by the council of nicea. the real history of nicea also hide by the high religious people which where you get your reference.
YarnhojPay 1 month ago
@YarnhojPay If you can't trust encyclopedias written by people with PHDs in the subject, then who can you trust? Believe what you want about religion or faith, but at least look at evidence when making a claim or when someone makes a claim.
The fact is, not a single person in the world ever said "Christ's divinity was voted on at Nicea" until after the Divinci Code. It wasn't until that movie / book came out that conspiricy theorys about Nicea emerged.
truthforchrist 1 month ago
Man-o-man, reading these posts and watching this video are incredibly enlightening as to the ignorance of most... Simply amazing!
Anyone else want to take a stab at revisionism?
Wunji1 7 months ago
Lol this is so flawed, it's not even funny. You'd learn more from simply reading a Bart Ehrman book. At least he has the background to give some credibility to his work. This is biased propaganda.
I'm going back to the academic route and actually reading to gain knowledge. Videos like this will be used when I need my funny bone tickled. lol
californication751 8 months ago
I see you didn't show pic #1 up close is it because the people were all black shame on you if you going to teach the truth teach the truth.
ttheleatherman 8 months ago
The Council of Nicea was the Catholic Ch. being formed and had nothing to do with the True church of Jesus ! It was the Old Roman Empire being turned into a religion. There was over 100 Million+ that had nothing to do with this council at all ! It was only the Roman Empire being turned into a religion.
Dark ages was about the Catholic Ch. that took over religion and band all reading of the bible. If you owned a bible you was burned at the stake ! This was the Dark Ages 320 ad to 1600 !
turtle4aire 10 months ago
@turtle4aire boy what an idiot the church was well established long before Constantine who were those 181 Bishops he called to the council he didn't form anything. The catholic faith wasn't made the official religion of Rome till long after his death. Id love to hear about this over 100 million that far exceeds the population by ten fold what a dope. The Dark ages were caused by the fall of Rome and barbarian war lords piliaging the people fled to the church for protection.
martlut 10 months ago
@turtle4aire By the way that's nonsense too if you owned a bible you'd be burnt at the stake first off the printing press wasnt invented second you could afford to own a bible they were all hand copied which took over a year, third most all the people couldn't read or write like you by the way you should really give proof of your accusations buts I guess that something a lying bigot refuses to do
martlut 10 months ago
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Everyone should go google "sana'a manuscripts".
TADahar 11 months ago
the council (325) simply failed to understand that a metaphor can not be taken as literal. the dialect of the many of holy prophets spoke in idioms as well as parables. this style of language can be read in poetry. i think that the niceans also took a word / expression out of context. ie., the jews misunderstood the style of dialogue found in jn.10:30.
i can tell you that i'm a rational person. i can also tell you that a number is also rational. misconception will make you slip...
afterray 1 year ago
The council corrupted the Bibles teaching and did infuluence some translations.Mark 10:18 Luke 18:19 John 14:28 Luke 22:42 John3:35 John 5:19,20,22,23,special note to vs 26 and 27 ,John 6:27 put seal of approval on self?John 7:16,29./John 8:12 John 8:49,50 John 10:18,29.John 11:41 thanks himself ,John12:49, John 13:16 14:16 /
John 15:15 Learned from the Father (while in heaven)
pcbarter 1 year ago
@pcbarter, You have no evidence to substantiate that absurb assertion.
LogosTheos 1 year ago
If anyone would like to watch my series called The Truth about the Trinity, please check them out. There are tons of scriptures on how we should believe. Thank you. :)
Godlovestruth 1 year ago
Fucking hell the narriator on this video sounds like a retard
springbox1982 1 year ago
Heh, as if the vote would actually change what Jesus or God is.
masterskyrunner 1 year ago
OK THIS VIDEO PURE GARBAGE DO YOURE RESEARCH NUMB NUTS.
wastedwater75 1 year ago
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The Second Council of Constaintanople in A.D. 543 *did* make amazing changes to the "original" biblical text.
PS: There was more than one Council of Niceae, not just the now famous "First" Council.
(I hope none use Wikipedia for research, its mistakes are ubiquitious, particularly concerning hermeneutics.)
deedee2244 1 year ago
Islam is a lie and Muhamed was a false prophet.
YourHaunting4Life 1 year ago
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YourHaunting4Life 1 year ago
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Biblical Old Testament "I AM" (Ex 3:13) means YaHWeH (ie., Personal Name of God). I AM means God in Hebrew lingustic philology! When JESUS claimed it the Jews understood clearly without any interpreters or commentators.
Jews said to JESUS,"We are not stoning you for any of these,but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
JESUS claimed Divinity! Jews understood, questioned & tried to kill! JESUS never denied but claimed all the more!!!
JESUS was worshipped!!!
rajtamilloveschrist 1 year ago
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Acts 10:25,26 - Peter forbade Cornelius worship him(Cf. Acts 12:20-23; 14:8-18.)
Revelation 22:8,9; 19:10 - angel forbade John worship him
Romans 1:25 - "People who worship creature, rather than the Creator, have left the truth of God"
BUT
Matthew 4:9-" Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only"
YES
Matthew 8:2 - A leper worshipped Jesus & was healed
Matthew 14:33-the disciples worshipped Him saying He was the Son of God
John 9:38-Jesus healed the blind man, & he worshipped Jesus
rajtamilloveschrist 1 year ago
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Matthew 28:9,17-After His resurrection, His disciples worshipped Him
Luke 24:52 - Even after He had ascended back to heaven, they worshipped Him
John 5:23 - All men should honor the Son "just as" they honor the Father
John 17:5 - Jesus,"Father..the glory which I had with You before the world was"
Rev 5:12-14 - Both the Father and Jesus given same glory and honor
1 Cor 2:8,James 2:1-Jesus is the "Lord of glory"!!
rajtamilloveschrist 1 year ago
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GOD said to Moses,"..say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'"
JESUS claimed it!
JESUS said: "I tell you the truth, before Abraham was born, I AM!"(John 8:58)
"I AM the resurrection and the life; he who believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live,"(John 11:25)
"I AM the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me."(Jn 14:6)
"I AM the Alpha and the Omega,the Beginning and the End,who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty"(Rev 1:8 & 22:13)
rajtamilloveschrist 1 year ago
hahahahaha good work ;)
flauwegeit 1 year ago
Mohamed was a false prophet...Islam is a lie.
YourHaunting4Life 1 year ago
@YourHaunting4Life All religion is a lie not just islam. If you believe your religion is better than theirs your dumb ass shit because all relgion bullshit!!
jganer 1 year ago
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@jganer: you're a slave mind!! You think you are free but you are manipulated. You are just an ignoramus. Develop critical thinking skills.
YourHaunting4Life 1 year ago
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@jganer: You are a slave mind. You think you are free but you are manipulated. Develop critical thinking skills, worm.
YourHaunting4Life 1 year ago
@YourHaunting4Life wat is wrong with u....oh yeah...your god's dick is bigger than mine.........lol
joryvans 1 year ago
@joryvans: You are a clueless person that is manipulated too. You cannot present logical arguments so you resort to ignorant obscenities. Keep sucking down the lies. You are so lost.
YourHaunting4Life 1 year ago
@YourHaunting4Life Logical argument can only be addressed to logical people. Stupid people like you deserve stupid replies....lol
Peace bro
joryvans 1 year ago
@joryvans: another lame rebuttal from joryvans whom cannot think; and whom is easily manipulated by the lies of the world. Keep being lost :)
YourHaunting4Life 1 year ago
@YourHaunting4Life Dude i am a christain...Ohh no did you think i was a muslim...i just hate when people like you go around and make insults to other religions...n u call urself a christian.u should b breaking the barriers that divide mankind and look for the common msg which Jesus, Bhudda and all the prophets of other religion claimed. Am i a manipulated person for believing that all religion had a pure message which was unfortunately corupted??? then yes i am manipulated
joryvans 1 year ago
@YourHaunting4Life but u know wat, i am chirstian bcoz i was born in a christian family n country and educated as such.My belief is not the REAL me,its my heritage.when i learn about all other religions,put aside the customs,myths,political corruptions etc,they all share the same msg.LOOK INSIDE U N SEARCH YOUR TRUE SELF,thru mediation/prayers to become self aware an elevate urself spiritually/consciously.as jesus said 'God is within you,U r in HIS image..Atman is Brahman...thats me philosophy
joryvans 1 year ago
@joryvans: Take your New Age nonsense to the toilet. There is only one Truth.
I never insulted any religion; but it is typical of manipulated people like you to accuse other people of intolerance and hate because they do not agree with your New Age lies. I never insulted Islam, rather I recognize it as being a lie too and Muhammad was a false prophet. I did not call him or any Muslims names. I am NOT judging anybody, rather I am recognizing them and their religions as being wrong and some lies
YourHaunting4Life 1 year ago
what is the truth, Mr know-it-all??u say Islam is a lie,but the Kuran contains the names of Jesus,adam n eve,Moses n Abraham...so r these people lies??the main diference is that they dont see Jesus as equally God..in some places in the holy land,muslim n christian share the same shrines??if one is false, the other surely is false as they have the same origins??is it to b ignorant to b asking oneself where the truth lies within himself, intead of blindly believing what other people says??
joryvans 1 year ago
@joryvans: NOR do they see Jesus as the Son of God and the Savior of all whom seek Him. The context the Quran writes about Jesus is a LIE. Use your brain. Do you have any critical thinking skills? Having the same shrines does NOT mean they use it in the same context. Even an 8 year old can see the difference. There is NO truth within yourself nor within anybody including myself without Christ. Listen to yourself - you talk about "truth" then you bring up relativist arguments... lame.
YourHaunting4Life 1 year ago
so basically, the non-christian world is doomed..only because they were not born or grown up as a christian..good i was born a catholic then ? or not? can catholism be a lie as well?u sound like u know which among the million of christian groups is the right one..ok i wont try to find the 'truth' for myself..islam n all other religions are lies...no need to look for deep connection/msg..i will never question Jesus nature, coruption of christianity never occured..whatever u say is true...bye :-)
joryvans 1 year ago
@joryvans: Look at the history while you have an open mind and heart. Most "christian" groups and churches are a joke. There are only 4 Churches, although divided they are still one Christian Church, that dates back to the Resurrection of Christ. Think about it. These 4 Churches were One before they were divided but even in their division they are still Christ's Church as they have VALID Sacraments and Apostolic Succession. I won't tell u them. You must think and look at the history to see it.
YourHaunting4Life 1 year ago
i believe i know the ones u r referring to.dont worry i leanred about the history of christianity bcoz i wanted to know WHY my faith is the way it is.n i know it is greatly flawed.but as u so nicely said,i am a 'new age nonsense'.for me spirituality is more important than religion.i focus on Jesus teaching whether than his nature or flaws.i reconciliate his teachings with other religious teachings,conciousness,meditation n even quantum physics n string theory.so yeah,as u say i am manipuated..
joryvans 1 year ago
@joryvans: The Word of God is NOT a religion nor is His true Church (dates back to His resurrection). Christ's true Church is His word and it's a relationship with Him, NOT a religion. Religion is the other many "christian" churches that broke away from Truth. Religion is also the non-Christian belief systems.
Jesus has NO flaws. You criticize religion BUT then you say "i reconciliate his teachings with other RELIGIOUS teachings..." This is a contradiction and the logic is flawed.
YourHaunting4Life 1 year ago 2
@joryvans That's wonderful, counting on luck to save you.
masterskyrunner 1 year ago
@masterskyrunner sorry my friend, i did not understand your post..would you please develop?
joryvans 1 year ago
@joryvans Never mind, lol, I read your comment slower this time.
masterskyrunner 1 year ago
Is it true the "prophet" Mohamed was a pedophile?
YourHaunting4Life 1 year ago
This is historically inaccurate, uninformed and propaganistic with an agenda not hidden. They did not bring up the subject of the canon of scripture at all. So the part about a discussion of the scripture and divination is a lie. The four gospels and the other books were listed in the 2nd century.
stavroula04 1 year ago
God doesn't have a lineage, and he doesn't have grand children and great grand children like we do ok. He came in the big bang and in that glory, but that source does not go through a family expression and lives on like that. His purpose is to create and I don't dare say further his will. His will or goal in the universe is what really will tell why there is no son of god issue. His issue is supreme and words can't describe it.
PhuQuangLe111 1 year ago
the torah the koran the bible all bronze age beliefs I wished i lived in the future when these plauges have all been destroyed there is some much more usefull and meaningfull books in the world they slow are progress as a speices Im not saying that all religious people are dumb or bad some are good some are smart but I think the universe is more beautifull and meaningfull through the eyes of science and the true understanding of who we are and were we fit in this existince
freethinker143 1 year ago
Before a person accepts Jesus as Lord they are more sensitive to their body and corrupted soul rather than to their spirit. When a person truly believes in Jesus as the only begotten Son of God their life is transformed by the Holy Spirit. Believers receive the Spirit of God, the Holy Spirit, in them. A person who has the Holy Spirit in them becomes more sensitive to their spirit because God’s Holy Spirit communicates with us through our spirit. no way to God without his son Jesus.
austriaheute 1 year ago
@austriaheute what will happen when son god dont agree with father god?
ukaragen 1 year ago
@austriaheute i think its the devil communicating with them instead of god. and remember lucifer was made from a light. and he can make u feel whatever u thought u were gunna feel by believing that jesus is son of god. and its true christians appear to be succesful in there choice. some get wealthy have kids. good health. but that cant be true. because jesus said the first will be last and the last will be first. he cant be talking about the christian mass of today. there the first. whos last?
imreadyyo26 1 year ago
The doctin of the trinity's modern interpritation is really a coruption it peresents the father the son and the holy spirit as three equal entities instead of a heirarchey Y'shua himself said he and the father are one and the father is greater than him not equal not the oppisite but y'shua being part of G-D coming from the father as a son and a father do.
1984vrs 1 year ago
god is the father son and holy spirit. if you think god can not be a man, how dare you think what god can or can not do or be! if god wishes to reveal himself as a rock, so be it. for all you non believers, you will learn the truth upon your death. so continue gambling with your beliefs and hope for salvation. peace be with you
gerryboy101 1 year ago
Perhaps, everyone is correct. When you view what is known from its own unique perspective. Jesus is the son of God & isn’t, depending upon your associations with those words. God does & does not exist depending upon what your definition of God is. Think Multidimensional here & end the anger & hatred among people on this subject.
549neo 1 year ago
Constantine's Sword is a really good documentary film.
Nazizombiesdie 1 year ago
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WE HAVE A (GRACE AND PEACE) FROM ALL 3 MEMBERS OF THE TRINITY IN 2 VERSES.
Revelation 1:4-5 (KJV)
4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come;(GOD THE FATHER) AND from the seven Spirits which are before his throne; (GOD THE HOLY GHOST)
5AND from Jesus Christ, (GOD THE SON) who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth.
HARLANGENEPARROTT 1 year ago
Even the texts accepted as canonical are different in ancient texts. I believe some Syriac texts say "It's easier for a ROPE to fit through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven." Makes more sense, doesn't it?
aelam1956 1 year ago
The Muslim are tainted as well sorry to say that and it must come as a shocker to u as well, The 12 tribes of scatter Isreal who is in a covenant with YAhuwah the Most High and his son Yahusha are coming out of all religons. this was a promise covenant thats stand today.
coolwater792 1 year ago
the problems is with THE CHURCH since the begining this organazation is so corrupt all who go to church are PAGANS and teach that of man
afterthastorm21 1 year ago
this is why muslims can never accept christ:
1 Corinthians 1:18
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
1 Corinthians 2:14 The man without the Spirit does not accept
the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are
foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because
they are spiritually discerned
rickru1 1 year ago
@rickru1 while muslims don't accept jesus as their "lord and savior", they do agree that he was born of the virgin mary and he is one of God's greatest prophets. if people call jesus the son of God because of his birth to a virgin then adam deserves the title "son of God" more because he had no mother or father!
trinidadparaminman 1 year ago
@trinidadparaminman The Islamic Catch-22." We know that Jesus predicted His violent and imminent death. Either these things came to pass and the Quran is in error for claiming they did not, or they did not come to pass and the Quran is in error for treating Jesus as a great Prophet when, in fact, Hed be a false prophet for prophesying incorrectly.
rickru1 1 year ago
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Oh yes another muslim feels obligated to tell the truth about christianity because of course the only faith is islam and its followers are the purest,,,give it up ! damn u loosers are u on a mission or something by ur local leader? U spend ur time researching to make ur point? Bravo a good muslim u have done ur duty heaven awaits,,,The shear stupidity of monotheistic faith: convert,convert convert by all means necessary
atkmso03 1 year ago
Oh yes another muslim feels obligated to tell the truth about christianity because of course the only faith is islam and its followers are the purest,,,give it up ! damn u loosers are u on a mission or something by ur local leader? U spend ur time researching to make ur point? Bravo a good muslim u have done ur duty heaven awaits,,,The shear stupidity of monotheistic faith: convert,convert convert by all means necessary
atkmso03 1 year ago
Why do You consider it impossible for Jesus son of Mary to have been a mortal incarnation of a divine personality?
Christ and Krishna share many "characteristics"
My view is that Jesus is A son of God, but he said that all who do the work of the Father in Heaven are the sons of God.
Jesus was both mortal and intrinsically divine.
Not that hard to understand, and btw I was born into a muslin family.
The Holy Quran calls Jesus son of Mary, "the miracle worker", he was endowed with Gods powers.
NassimHarameinVedas 1 year ago
this guy does not know his history, my 14 year old was laughing at all the mistakes, what r his sources for this rubbish???
rickru1 1 year ago
@rickru1 - a 14 yrs old is not capable of intelectual discussion - so if your 14 yrs old laughs , it proves nothing .
MegaFraudbuster 1 year ago
maybe your 14 yr is not but mine IS, she can debate anyone under the table on almost anything, she is an advent reader on many subjects especially religion.
rickru1 1 year ago
if your going to ridicule someone for his mistakes at least point out his mistakes for the rest of people who don't see them. What mistakes did you 14-year old acknowledge?
Josho4096 1 year ago
The New Testament we read today, is not the product of the Council of Nicea. By the time of the Council of Nicaea in AD 325 (which the Emperor Constantine convened, but the gathering of 318 bishops made the decisions), the issue of what would be included in the Bible was not even debated.
rickru1 1 year ago
The deliberations of the Council focused on the deity of Christ, and the authority of the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, was taken for granted by all the bishops present. The final statements regarding formal recognition of the 27 books of the New Testament that we have today (what we call the Canon) were made at African synods (at Hippo and Carthage) in AD 393 and 397.
rickru1 1 year ago
the Canon was decided by God and recognized by man. Leading New Testament scholar F.F. Bruce put it:
The New Testament books did not become authoritative for the Church because they were formally included in a canonical list; on the contrary, the Church included them in her canon because she already regarded them as divinely inspired, . [Church] councils [did] not impose something new upon the Christian communities but codif[ied] what was already the general practice of those communities.'
rickru1 1 year ago
The council of Nicea had nothing to do with the cannon of scripture!
Then you said a significant majority of Christians at this time believed Christ to be a mortal Prophet? Where's the proof?
Can you please state the name of the so called prevailing sect that believed exactly the same as Muslims regarding Christ? Not only that but the most ancient proof of there existence as well please..
SuperJoseph1987 2 years ago
The real difference between the Pauline Christians and the Mohamedan Muslims are the monotheistic traits.
Muslims = Unitarian
Christians = Tri-Nitarian
But both are monotheistic in worship.
The muslims believe that God is eternally one whilst in Pauline texts and the Romanized Christianity states that God is One yet in 3 Different Beings.
The 1st and 2nd Century followers were UNITARIAN . Yes they had holy father holy son and holy spirit but GOD IS ONE.
Read the history.
MDIS 2 years ago
Read The Bible again and look out for clues. In pure Christianity which is purely monotheistic before the romanized christianity - that integrated the greek and roman ideologies into the teachings of the apostles.
Another fact ; Jesus is brown or tanned in terms skin color and had white hair similar to those as lambs. Soft curly white hair.
So the Jesus of Catholic Church is fake as that is the SON of the 6th POPE .
MDIS 2 years ago
Jesus was voted as God, Allah was forced on the people at sword point!!!!
IsraTX 2 years ago
Very intesting vid. I knew most of this info, which more or less is hystorically correct(as far as we know). But didn't Mohhamed based his own religion on christian teachings???How do we know that christianity is corrupted??? because mohhammed said so....huhhh...so it must be truth then.......
IsraTX 2 years ago
Life before Emporer Constatine and the Council of Nicaea must have been so much more definate (concerning the Word). Oh well, at least we have the internet and other sources to find truth. Thanks for posting! I like that last bit about witch craft ; ) lol
goodfaithfulservant 2 years ago
this video is false. jesus was considered divien long before constantine we have pre-constantine NT papyrii and writings of early church fathers 200 years before nciea oproving it. constantne did nto change the bible at all.
distab29 2 years ago
If that's true, it still doesn't mean that Yahshua is Yahveh. I believe that they are sovereign, but not equal or the same. At the end of John 14:28 it says, "...for My Father is greater than I." It also says not to pray to Him, but His Father.
It's not much different from a king and his prince. Why is this so horrible of a concept?
I don't want to sound like I think I'm absolutely right. I could be wrong.
goodfaithfulservant 2 years ago 9
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The real difference between the Pauline Christians and the Mohamedan Muslims are the monotheistic traits.
Muslims = Unitarian
Christians = Tri-Nitarian
But both are monotheistic in worship.
The muslims believe that God is eternally one whilst in Pauline texts and the Romanized Christianity states that God is One yet in 3 Different Beings.
The 1st and 2nd Century followers were UNITARIAN . Yes they had holy father holy son and holy spirit but GOD IS ONE.
Read the history.
MDIS 2 years ago
wow . people are still being racist against muslims these days... realllllllllllll christian. hahhahhhhhhhahaahaha actually it is .
weirdfetishes5 2 years ago
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Shalom,
Please,check out Hosea 13:4,Deut 6:4,Deut 32:39 to know who our ONLY Saviour is.Exodus 4:22 tells us who the Most High's first born son is.The N.T is NOT from the Most High.
Peace
theosfonn 2 years ago
Watching this video I can assume that the narrator is Muslim. He makes a big deal about how the bishops where illiterate. If Im not mistaken wasn't the prophet Muhammad illiterate as well? An he is the person who told his followers the Qu'ran, but they didn't write the Qu'ran, because they where illiterate as well. It was the generation after them that wrote it. And even they wrote it without vowels because the Arabic language was not fully developed at that time. Where is the video about that?
saintdenis11 2 years ago
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05311990frog 2 years ago
sorry I reply to the wrong person
05311990frog 2 years ago
Thz is funny!
chunxhao 2 years ago
How can you assume something about somebody and then go on a rant about that assumption? Oh just to let you know im not Muslim.
calisoldier414 2 years ago
that is stupid lolll...the Quran wasnt revealed as something WRITTEN...the Quran means to RECITE. The Quran is ORAL...it is only written to teach young children and other people to read it...you can throw all Qurans in the world but it is still here as there are many who know it off by heart.
BiGaLz007 2 years ago
raginggaijin, you are a fool completely blinded by BS wake up. You believe in a space being that has never been proven as real nor ever revealed itself oh unless you include the myths of these ridiculous scriptures in these phony religions. The only thing man has ever truly believed in is money, power, and pussy no god. But they use religion to control and manipulate people into doing their bidding making us constantly fight and hate each other while they make off with the pot of gold.
kaiyeem 2 years ago
Agreed!
I believe that the Bible is merely an "Astrotheological Literary Hybrid", based on Pagan myths and legends.
The fact that during the Nicean Council in 325 Roman Emperor Constantinus introduced "Sunday" as the day of worship, forever separating it from the Sabbath on Friday, only strengthens that point.
During that council the Pagan or Babylon based doctrine of the Holy Trinity (Semiramis, Tammuz, Baal) was also introduced and enforced.
StopSpamming1 2 years ago
The only GOD I know is the UNIVERSE as a whole! Without the SUN we would die, without rain we would die, without air we would die, so you tell me whats GOD and whats not.
standforchange08 2 years ago
the universe we're all energy energy is neither created nor destroyed. We're all manifestation of that original energy. How was it created impossible energy is never created and neither were we
05311990frog 2 years ago
Both christianity and islam were created by men. Christianity was created by the Council of Nicea. Islam was created by Muhammed. He wrote the Quran for political purposes to justify violence and wars against tribes as he conquered them.
GodsReligionChannel 2 years ago
"He wrote the Quran for political purposes to justify violence and wars against tribes as he conquered them."
Where is your proof to this claim?
raginggaijin 2 years ago
Raginggaijin -> get your nose out of the Quran long enough to read historical facts of Muhammed's life. Any real history book (not a religious text) on Muhammed will present the facts of how Muhammed wrote sections of the Quran to justify his wars and attacks on different groups/tribes.
GodsReligionChannel 2 years ago
Unlike the Trinitarian doctrine that supports polytheism and pagan syncretism, reglardless of what Scripture proves.
You believe the word of man over the Word of God.
Enjoy this life. Surah 14:30
raginggaijin 2 years ago
Guess what raginggaijin ..... there is no God. Just your own fantasies. All scripture were written by men for men. You believe fairytales and fantasies.
GodsReligionChannel 2 years ago
Cool. :)
raginggaijin 2 years ago
Christians can be shown multiple times in Scripture that Jesus is not God, God does not like being associate with partners or equals, God is not a man, God does not change, God does not die, and God is our Savior, yet they will ignore all these Scriptures to hold onto the luciferian doctrine of man.
Enjoy this life. Surah 14:30
raginggaijin 2 years ago 9
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Shalom,
Please,check out Hosea 13:4,Deut 6:4,Deut 32:39 to know who our ONLY Saviour is.Exodus 4:22 tells us who the Most High's first born son is.The N.T is NOT from the Most High.
Peace
theosfonn 2 years ago
@raginggaijin lol now thats rich. i suppose u know what god is and what he is not.. i suppose you know god personally. the problem with muslims is they put LIMITATIONS on what god can and cannot do..that may well be for allah the moon god of islam but the god of jews and christians is yhwh and he has no limits on what can be done.
rickru1 1 year ago
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MrOkkurtlort 1 year ago
@rickru1 but still he cant cure cancer -.-
MrOkkurtlort 1 year ago
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@MrOkkurtlort maybe he can?
Invisagoth 1 year ago
@rickru1 NO MAN IS GOD, GOD IS ONE
MegaAntimason 1 year ago
@MegaAntimason god is father son and spirit, 3 entities as one, 1x1x1 = 1
rickru1 1 year ago
@rickru1 1/3 = .33 and .33 +. 33 + .33 .99 NOT 1 so u fail again at math christians
ansar90 1 year ago
@ansar90 wrong again: 3/3= 1.. its cool to stay in school
rickru1 1 year ago
@ansar90 1/3=x/100
Cross multiply
100=3x
100/3= 33.3%
rickru1 1 year ago
@ansar90 (1/3) * 100 = 33.3333333333333333333333333333333333333…
the 3 goes on forever just like god is eternal
rickru1 1 year ago
@rickru1 i guess you and your 33% gods couldn't make it past pre school
ansar90 1 year ago
@raginggaijin I can show you multiple verses in Bible wich say clearly that Jesus is God
andipat100 1 year ago
@andipat100
Show us then, who this 'god' is.
TheHeroOfChrist 1 year ago
@TheHeroOfChrist Christ is God together with God Father and Holy Spirit.
andipat100 1 year ago
@andipat100 - According to whom, and based on what scriptural evidence?
TheHeroOfChrist 1 year ago
@raginggaijin Show us some of these multiple times.
Lunarmoonbase2 1 year ago
The video and information would be more trustable, if the smart guy didn't use mockery with some unwanted and stupid clips from simpsons or vote for Jesus. Muslims don't forget that Jesus (Isa A:) still our Prophet and every effort should be made to maintain his dignity and honor. Have healthy debate or dialogue without attacking anybody or group, otherwise don't malign the religion. Peace be upon you.
Asadullah07 2 years ago
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If JESUS is the EXpress image of the INVISIBLE GOD.... what invisible GOD(THEOS) is He the visible image(IKON) of? THE Father? GOD THE SON? GOD THE HOLY GHOST? IF THEOS means simply GOD . And GOD is triune, then Jesus is the express image of the invisible TRINITY?
I don't think so my friends, JESUS IS THE VISIBLE MANIFESTION OF THE INVISIBLE GOD( THE FATHER). GOD IS ONE! Heb 1:3 COL 1:13
John 1:1 In the beginning was the WORD(LOGOS) and the logos was with GOD(THEOS) and the logos was theos.
Jaysen1976 2 years ago
There is only One, True God worthy of worship: Our Creator.
Jesus is not God.
You are My witnesses, declares YHWH, And My servant whom I have chosen, so that you know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. BEFORE ME THERE WAS NO GOD FORMED, NOR AFTER ME THERE IS NONE. I, I am YHWH, and besides Me there is no savior. I, I have declared and saved, and made known, and there was no foreign mighty one among you. And you are my witnesses, declares YHWH, that I am God. Isaiah 43:10-12
raginggaijin 2 years ago
Anyone who experience Jesus has a clearer understanding. The Holy Spirit give guidance.
meypole 2 years ago
Christianity is diet coke Judaia stripped down for export, its just another Pyramid scheme of fear, just more filth that messes people up
DARTHMOBIUS 2 years ago
very well done!
be careful, however, to keep an honest viewpoint. this is touchy stuff for christians like me.
blessings in proclaiming the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you YHWH/God/Allah.
Salaam/Shalom/Peace.
SweetSoundOfGrace 2 years ago 2
an what did the black guy sead in the corner where the bishops where
super2pac 2 years ago
That was a great video and you did a wonderful job. I would like to know where you got the information the four books ending up on the table. If you could email me the books with the info I would like to see them or it.
Keep up the good work
spiritguide4u 3 years ago
Stick to Islam ! you know nothing about Christianity ! go and rubbish your own faith!
neamonitis1 3 years ago
Now we know that Goodacre and clan are your sources. We can't trust any of it. This vid is at best pure theory and at worst lies. Where are you studying Abdullah? I need to write to the professors there. They are filling your head with the wrong information.
nighthawk7878 3 years ago
james white tore this falsely represented account of history to shreds
bumbacutthoat 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
the disciple john says that "In the beginnning was the Word, the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD"
JESUS IS GOD in the flesh!
dglassic 3 years ago
how does that help anything what is the point he is either the son of god or god in the flesh he cant be both dude
kwesi216 3 years ago 2
A reply to your comment: how does that help anything what is the point he is either the son of god or god in the flesh he cant be both dude.
you are absolutely right! He cant be God in the flesh and Son of God at the same time.
vill214 3 years ago
yes word is how god brings everything into existence....he says "be" and it appears...god says "be" and jesus appeared...so jesus is the WORD in flesh..hes a product of the word, quran says same exact thing so that doesn't prove anything!
flamezstr33t 3 years ago 2
this is ridiculous! you quote the minority view as correct, only 2 bishops voted for a non-divine Jesus. also, it was well established a couple of hundred years before in the gospels about the trinity and divinity of Jesus.
dglassic 3 years ago
great points. Is islam just as wacked thow? Anyone who reads the bible has to see it,s apparent flaws.
monkeymen72 3 years ago
The truth is always written in the bible.
If it was manipulated on which books to include, God made sure for the truth to come out. Like claiming Jesus is GOD is not true. A 3-in-1 God is not true. All the prophecy from the bible about the teachings of evil happened already and still at the present time.
vill214 3 years ago
doesnt make it the word of GOD the genius of my god wrote it in my essence
kwesi216 3 years ago
Jesus said, 62 times in the New Testiment that he was the son of man. Jesus liked to quote the old testiment.
In Numbers 23:19 It says, GOD IS NOT A MAN, that he should lie, NOR A SON OF MAN, that he should change his mind.
Jesus said 62 times he was a son of man, and that God is not a man or a son of man. To worship Jesus as God is to break the frist commandment.
MichaelGrife 3 years ago 3
I voted for the other guy.
Hiel Satan!
kingsman565 3 years ago
Jesus is a Prophet. Very well done
sarmadq 3 years ago 2
Very informative and creatively done piece.
1angloboy 3 years ago 2
Amazing!! Every Christian should see this video
mannadychennai 3 years ago 6
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why DOES jesus look roman, HE WAS A FUCKING JEW, WITH BROWN HAIR, BIG NOSE, BUSHY BEARD, etc.
freakycunt 3 years ago
Very informative, very true, a thumb up from me and some bits are soo funny. Ps. i Love the sound effects on these videos. Salam:)
desi786saf 4 years ago 2
Dawa to Christians Catholics protestants Mormons
Dawa to Christians Catholics protestants Mormons
Ecothearcy 3 years ago 3
This is stupid.
shady136 4 years ago
What stupid? You want to cast a vote of stupidity? LOL
AGBV 4 years ago
So I guess is Bush is rejected by many but the powerful elite after all. LOL. I want a National Holiday about the rescue of the Constitution and Bill of Rights and we can celebrate with a reenactment of hanging bush and his buddies!
lilrosa8803 4 years ago 2
I recently read an article by Wayne Madsen, in which the Pope John Paul II states that Bush behavior and attitude are anything but Christian. It was entitled, Bush's "Christian" Blood Cult.
lilrosa8803 4 years ago
BUsh is NOT a Christian... he is a known Satanist...
Look up "cremation of care ritual Bohemian Grove" and the "Georgia Guisedstones" here on youtube
Look up "Bohemian Club" and "Bohemain Grove" on wikipedia
DownWithTheOwl 4 years ago
Too bad you support war criminals.
lilrosa8803 4 years ago
are we forgetting the violent past of the roman empire. vicious in nature. they tricked americans into believing that it was a christian nation while they worked as a catholic roman empire government. hail hitler/bush, same thing backed by the roman empire.
lilrosa8803 4 years ago
There is another really horrible thing that the creator of this video is sadly forgetting. IT IS CALLED TRADITION!!! The tradition that was passed by Apostles from the first century of Christ to the people of the different nations and the fathers who accepted it. If we read all the overwhelming writings we see what is mostly accepted. Now, whoever claimed that they cast lots to figure out which gospels were true is just PURE BS!!
petersibrahim 4 years ago
Read their writings, read which books the overwhelming majority of Christians agreed on where true. They were accepted long before the fourth century, in fact they were met with most agreement except on a three books, with whom again the vast majority called inspired, but who a significant small minority felt should be left outside of the canon like the book of Revelation and two Pauline epistles.
petersibrahim 4 years ago
Similarly, there are a number of books that I consider inspired but I know are extracanonical for example the Shepherd of Hermas, and the Didache, and the Epistles of the Apostolic Fathers (St. Ignatius and St. Polycarp), whose teachings lie OVERWHELMINGLY and correspond to those of the four gospels and the Pauline and Catholic Epistles. Don't buy into this anti-Christian propaganda. At least, if you are going to speak out against Christianity speak out with solid facts and real references.
petersibrahim 4 years ago
You need to see the division between catholic bush and real christians. The catholic bush is for the roman empire world domination while the real christians shall die in the name of jesus and god. the roman empire kills with the deception of claiming christianity. Real christians dont harm others.
lilrosa8803 4 years ago
"He needed a new gimick"? Talk about bias. Those "illerate" men apparently knew the writings of the Apostolic Fathers, and, perhaps, the pagan Pliny the Younger's letter to Trajan!
DarklingSprite 4 years ago
great video...last simpsons part was so funny...not sure why they swear by the Bible.
going2sleep 4 years ago
no matter how much muslims squirm in the dirth to proove islam,they always finish by making fools of themselves..intellectual cowardice is a terrible thing indeed!!!!!!!
LieutenantChaos 4 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH
LieutenantChaos 4 years ago
Same Substance, Different Substance, Similar Substance, identical but separate substance, different but conjoined substance, Insubstantial Substance, Three substances in one. Choose one and murder any who disagree. So sayeth the priests of the Lord of Peace, who came not to bring peace but a sword :D
formless777 4 years ago
To bad you don't know how to do anything but read everything literally to your own advantage.
petersibrahim 4 years ago
Now and again a religious person says that to me and I laugh. Virtually the whole religious population read things to their own advantage; it's called giving sermons. Besides, if they are God's literal truth, then how can they be misinterpreted by a powerless mortal like me ?
Go and kill your neighbor in the name of love
like a good sheep little christian.
formless777 4 years ago
You don't realize that your whole society is based on rules that are religious ones, and that it only holds together because people are respecting them... Though they don't know why. Technically speaking, if there is no God, then why should I respect your life, if you have what I want I shall just kill you right? We are just animals
Ricomoh 4 years ago
We r animals we perhaps don't kill 2 conquer ones property anymore, like in ancient and medieval periods, but look at leaders of corporations, they r very cut throat, it's all about me,me,me. Most rules have been handed down,not by religion, but thru trial and error. God bless.
CountfromMiami 3 years ago
It is the simple creatures who can hear the voice of I Am. Their minds are not corrupted with nonsense day and night.
handydude6 4 years ago
lol @ vote Jesus for God.. funny.. Good job..
Sutekh9x9 4 years ago
Let me get this straight. So, Muhammadnasim doesn't prohibit the use of witchcraft? That is what the final scene seems to suggest.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
So has the truth within the Quran changed with the times. Could God not protect his word (bible) and truth within it. Is his word not from everlasting to everlasting, who could corrupt GODs word? The doctrine of change within the bible is not even founded in the Quran but in the doctrines of so called teachers.
thedebatecontinues 4 years ago
Christians. Christians could corrups "GODs word." (duh)
itod 4 years ago