When Prophet Muhammed (sawa) said: After me is Ali and his progeny, but what happened when Prophet Died? People Chose Abu bakr, then omar, then Usman, then Ali! If Prophet Say Ali, it means Allah (swt) say Ali, So Allah chose Ali, not Abu bakr, omar or ,usman, show me 1 hadeeth that Prophet Muhammed said after me follow Abu bakr, no! he didnt said so, he said Ali!. Abu Bakr and Omar Shouted to Prophet (sawa) and he who shouts to prophet, all his good Amaal is removed!,
وجدت حثالة عيال المتعه هنا يلعنون و يشتمون ، و ينسبون حبهم للمصطفى صلوات ربي و سلامه عليه الذي قال : إني لم ابعث لعاناً و إنما بُعثت رحمه ، شدق الله أفواههم و حشرهم مع ملة اللعانيين ، قولوا آمين
may curse be on omer,abubaker,shamr,.May the curse of allah ,the porphets all 120 thousand curse and the seven layers of earth and the seaven layers of heaven curse be upon them.And i porvok allah curse on them every day and any of my shia brother reading this read ZIYARATE AOSHURA and send curse to Omer .and send belessing to the prophets(peace be upone him) heart imam hussian (as)
It is a historical fact that Ali named three of his own children as Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman.
This fact is recorded by the classical Shia scholar, Shaikh Mufid, in "Kitab al-Irshad", pp. 268-269, where these three sons of Ali are listed as numbers 12, 6 and 10 respectively
WHAT A LANAT FROM ALI ON SHIANE IBLEES THAT BY KEEPING HIS SONS NAMES ON THREE KHULFAS ALI HAS BLOWED A POWERFUL PUNCH ON THE LANTI FACES OF SHIANE IBLEES AND ALI HAS PROVED THAT HE HAS NO LINK WITH SHIAS.
@1977hero i am sunni iranian, i stated in the comment may Allah make the entire Iran ahle sunnah once again inshaAllah... yaad begir harf zadan, Elahi Allah toro be rahe mostaqim biyare ke betoni biyahi behesht... the true path is ahle sunnah, the same way as Prophet Muhammad (saw) (pbuH)
سّیدنا آنحضرت ﷺ نے فرمایا : لوگوں پر ایسا زمانہ آ�أ گا جب اسلام کا صرف نام باقی رہ جا�أ گا اور قرآن کے صرف الفاظ باقی رہ جائیں گے۔ اُن کی مسجدیں ظاہر میں تو آباد ہونگی لیکن ہدایت کے لحاظ سے بالکل ویران ہونگی۔ اس زمانہ کے لوگوں کے علماء آسمان کے نیچے بدترین مخلوق ہوں گے۔ اُنہی میں سے فتنے نکلیں گے اور انہی میں واپس لوٹ جائیں گے۔
I Ask only 1 question from sunnis and my question is:
Why we don't la'an Omar, Abu bakr and Usman if they weren't even muslims!! Omar didnt even know al Faatiha, and he killed Prophets Daughter, al Zahraa(AS)
Watch this ==> watch?v=c8RSHLd5UGA#! <== , Shia Grand Ayatollah can't even recite al-Fatiha and other short Surahs.
The story that Omar (ra) killed BiBi Fatima (ra) is not authentic but a BIG fabrication by the people of Fitna. Do you know Shia Grand Ayatolah of lebanon Sayed Fadhlullah rejected this story.
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Like i see, they all recite finely Qur'an, so plz don't change the discussion, u needed to first of all answer to my Question, plz! : Why we don't la'an Omar, Abu bakr and Usman if they weren't even muslims!! Omar didnt even know al Faatiha, and he killed Prophets Daughter, al Zahraa(AS), go and read ur own Sunni Book: Sahih Bukhari. If u find from ur books that only 1 time Omar (la'anatullahe Alayh) have helped Prophet(sawa) in the wars or even bled enemysnose Icome sunni
@ehsan16 You disgusting Rafidis are not even equal to an atom of the dust on the path of my Masters Sayyidina Abu Bakr and Sayyidina Umar (Radiallahu Ta'aala Anhum) May Allah grant you and your cursed kind your just reward.
@ehsan16 and you guys call yourself's muslim ok answer one thing in shia religion is it ok to fuck your mother and fuck your sister with a peice of silk on your dick awnser and you guy's do mutta (Temporary Marriage) first of that's Made up no where in the quran says temporary marriage is okay.And fucking your own mother and sister ok thats just plainly fucked up.
@ehsan16: May Allah guide you my friend what the hik ur talking about and who thought you this???? those are our profit companions how can you such a thing, you need to read more and revisit your beliefs.
they killed ali r.a.......killed hassan r.a .........killed hussain r.a and his whole family slaughtered by them......they are responsible for this all bloodshed and violence.
first see who is founder of this cult...ibn e saba and apostate .......a jew......who found this myth religion.shias belief is based on myth,cursing,abuse and hate.
9:100And the foremost, the first of the Emigrants (Mohajirs)and the Helpers (Ansars),and those who followed them in goodness Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him,and He has prepared for them Gardens wherein flow rivers,abiding therein for ever.That is the mighty achievement.SHIANE IBLEES CURSE SAHABAS WHEREAS ALLAH IS PLEASED WITH THEM.ALI HAS KEPT HIS SONS NAMES AS ABU BAKR,UMAR AND USMAN AND HAS CLEARLY SHOWN THAT HE HAS NO LINK WITH SHIANE IBLEES.
"Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah and those with him are harsh with the disbelievers and gentle among themselves.So that the disbelievers may become enraged with them."(48:29)Whoever becomes enraged when the sahaba are mentioned is the one about whom the verse speaks.
The Prophet is closer to the believers than their ownselves, and his wives are their mothers (33:6).
ALLAH HAS CLEARLY TOLD THAT WHO HATE SAHABAS AND PIOUS UMUL MOMNINS ARE DISBELIEVERS (KUFFARS/MUNAFIQEENS).
In the Nahjul Balagha, one of the most revered books of the Shia,Ali said:
“With regard to me, two categories of people will be ruined, namely he who loves me too much and the love takes him away from rightfulness (SHIAS),and he who hates me too much and the hatred takes him away from rightfulness (KHARJIS).The best man with regard to me is he who is on the middle course (SUNNI)So be with him and be with the great majority of Muslims because Allah’s hand of protection is on keeping unity.
SHIAS NEVER ACCEPT ANY SON OF HASAN AS INFALLIBLE IMAM. HASAN HAS A LOT OF SONS BUT NONE OF HIS SON IS INFALLIBLE IMAM, WHY? WERE THEY NOT PIOUS? WERE THEY NOT FROM AHLE BAIT? SHIAS SAY THAT ALLAH APPOINTS INFALLIBLE IMAMS. WHERE ALLAH HAS SAID THAT NO SON OF HASAN IS ELIGIBLE FOR INFALLIBLE IMAMAT?
WHY SHIAS DONT DO MATAM FOR HAMZA? WHERE SHIAS LOVE DISAPPEAR FOR HAMZA.
I AM NOT SURPRISED THAT THIS MAN CURSES THE SAHABA THIK OF THIS MUSLIMS THE SHIA RAFIDI NEVER CURSE ABU LAHAB ABU JAHL PHAROH SO CURSING SAHABA TO THEM IS SMALL PART OF THERE AQEEDAH IS TO CURSE THIS IS WHAT THERE SCHOLORS DO THEY FOLLOW A MAN CALLED ABDUALLAH IBN SABA THIS IS WHO FIRST START CURSING THE SAHABA A YEMENI JEW
@lavidaspeligrosa are you allah now? you can judge wether or not we go to heaven? its not part of shia islam to cure we place lanat which is a dua asking allah to remove the mercy from the individual can you show me where this is haram
@islamistruth101 Are you sleeping or are you a small kid who is making stupid jokes. Cant you see my comment. shall i re-type it for you? do you know the meaning of my comment? Allah says clearley in the qoran that who ever make war with his friends Allah makes war with him. Are you aware that the muhajiroun and the ansaar are in the quran? Are you aware of what this stupid imam is saying? cursing Omar ibn Khattab? Radiallah 3anhou? re calculate your steps pal. You dont say anything logicaly.
@lavidaspeligrosa you still cant say were going to hell thats allah's job, i can show you where allah called umar a hypocrite in the quran do you want me to do tht?
@HaiderAliBidgley oh here it is. so shia is the best huh? yes in cursing the companions the wife of the prophet muahmmed (SA) and i must agree with you by saying 'shia is the best'? no friend astghfirullah. I will never agree with people like you or your fake imam/hypocrite. just like all your ayatollah. A real imam is abdulmuntasir from iran. he tell the truth.
@lavidaspeligrosa sahih bukhari well here you go v5 #494 'Umar said, "Then I made my camel run fast and took it in front of the other Muslims, AND I WAS AFRAID THAT SOMETHING MIGHT BE REVEALED IN MY CONNECTION. I had hardly waited for a moment when I heard somebody calling me. I said, 'I was afraid that something might have been revealed about me. this is only a part of the hadith its too long to post here but notice how umar was scare somthin would be reveled about him
@lavidaspeligrosa surah 9:64The hypocrites fear lest a Surah (chapter of the Qur'an) should be revealed about them, SHOWING THEM WHAT IS IN THEIR HEARTS. Say: "Go ahead and mock! But certainly Allah will bring to light all that you fear, allah called umar a hypocrite in the quran subanallah i can also show you where he calls abu bakr a disbeleiver ill show u tht if u want, stop insulting shias without any proof that these people we are putin latnat upon are good people cus there not salam =)
The Khawarij also quoted verses of Quran to make Takfeer of Hazrat Ali (ra). Shia are the brothers of Khawarij, infact you are worst than the Khawarij.
Lets ask Imam Jafar Sadiq (rah) about hypocrites: Ja’afar el Sadiq (rah) said: “Allah did not reveal a verse about Munafiqoon/hypocrites unless it was aimed at those who claim to be The Shiites” (Shia BOOK Rijal el Kisshi P 254).
Shia and sunnis are the same...Shia was created by Imam Jafar Sadiq who was the teacher of Abu Hanifa and Malik...read the history...Islam has more than a hundred branches....Anyone who believes in Quran he or she is Muslim doesn't matter if u or shia or Sunni or u believe in hadith or not
Imam Jafar Sadiq (rah) is free of Shiism. He never believed in the foundation of Shia mazhab, the Imamate. He was a follower of Quran and Sunnah. The first person on earth who believed in divine appointment of Ali (ra), the first person who cursed Abubakr, Umar and Usman (ra) was Abdullah ibn Sabah. Therefore, the foundation and basic teachings of Shia come from this man, Abdullah ibn Saba.
@nahiddanish Imam Jafar as Saddiq RA was the teacher to the founder of all four Mazhabs Maliki Shafii Hanbali Hanafi and is a respected scholar of al-Islam and Ahul-ul Bayt. In fact reading Jaffar As Saddiq in Shi'i sources you'd be surprised to find he never insulted the Sahaba, and actually recommends fasting on Ashura!
@nahiddanish abdullah ibn sabah was the one created shias and he was an undercover jew. and imam jafar sadiq was a sunni and is in the naqshbandi sufi order so get your facts right
لعنة الله عليكم! من الملائكة وجميع الخلق لنشر مثل هذه الاكاذيب ضد الأم للمسلمين وأفضل الخلق ، رسول الله! وسلم صلى الله عليه وآله وصحبه أجمعين الأطفال!
All shias who are cursing & swearing on the companion of Prophet Muhammad PBUH are KAAFIR, KHINZEER (PIG)...& soon will taste the depth of HELL...they will die in biggest pain & will remain in increasing pain forever & ever & ever...INSHAALLAH
"Indeed, Allah was pleased with the believers when they gave their pledge to you (O Muhammad) under the tree. He knew what was in their hearts and He sent down calmness and tranquility upon them..." [48:18]
FOUR KHULFAS AND 1400 SAHABAS WERE TAKING BAYT UNDER TREE WITH WHOM ALLAH IS PLEASED BUT SHIANE IBLEES CURSE THEM. SHIANE IBLEES ACTUALLY INSULT ALLAH BECAUSE ALLAH HAS PRAISED SAHABAS.
"Indeed, Allah was pleased with the believers when they gave their pledge to you (O Muhammad) under the tree. He knew what was in their hearts and He sent down calmness and tranquility upon them..." [48:18]
FOUR KHULFAS AND 1400 SAHABAS WERE TAKING BAYT UNDER TREE WITH WHOM ALLAH IS PLEASED BUT SHIANE IBLEES CURSE THEM. SHIANE IBLEES ACTUALLY INSULT ALLAH BECAUSE ALLAH HAS PRAISED SAHABAS.
And among those around you of the wandering Arabs there are hypocrites, and among the townspeople of Al-Madinah (there are some who) persist in hypocrisy whom thou knowest not. We, We know them, and We shall chastise them twice; then they will be relegated to a painful doom.
@zafonten , those hypocrites were abdullah bin ubi and party who raised a filthy blame against umul momnin syeda ayesha siddiqa. those who insult ayesha are followers of abdullah bin ubi and are hypocrites.
@Islam1491 you can't know them, because rasulallah (s) wasn't know them
this ayat proofs all sahaba were not mo'meen and muslim, some of them were munafiq. and if some body is munafiq, you can't know him belief. he appears like mo'meen
In the verse the word "YOU" is plural. This means Allah (Swt) is telling the Prophet (saw) and Sahaba that "YOU (plural) do not know the hypocrites". The verse proves the hypocrites were FEW and the majority were believers (Mumin).
Now tell me how does the verse proves your point? and why do you shias have the habit of twisting the verses of Quran.
Also the previous verse (9:100) where Allah (swt) is praising the Sahaba (ra) and those WHO FOLLOW them.
@zeros8er098 Remember only one thing, Nabi ka janaza samnay rakh do, phir jo os janazay main nazar aye wo sahabi, aur jo nazar na aye wo Munafiq bi hai, lanti bi hai, aur bi jo dil main aye keh den, ab es list main umer aye ya bakar, jo bi ho, sub mil ker bolo meray sath, dushman e Zahra s.a per lanat beshumaaaaar........
@TheYakkar imam baqir ke bhai,imam zaid ibn e ali ne bhi hazrat abu bakar aur hazrat omer ki tareef ki thi ,tu tum kon hotay ho unko bura kehne walay.imam zayd ibn e ali ki history wikipedia par parho ,tu tumhe pata chalay ga kay kis tarha tum shiaon ne unko dhoka dia.aur lafz rafizee sub se pahlay imam zaid ne shiaon ke liye istemal kia tha.
there is no doubt shia are kafirs...the one who insult the sahabas directly insulting to the prophet(peace be upon him) and the one who hurts prophet(peace be upon him) he is not at all a muslim,he is worse then the kafirs...shia peoples feel shame to speak any thing against the sahabas...may allah guide to the shias ameen
useless debate about sunni or shia i hate both of them since they divided islam, unlike u in mid east here in indonesia we dont really care and dont wanna care about what is sunni what is shia, i have sunni friend and shia friend here and got no real problem with that ...
You don't own the forum but you contribute to it by adding post by posting this rubbish videos by supporting people on the forum that are calling people morons, shiat e dajjal etc i thought Islam taught manners and respect! Scholars that are cursing sahaba are mainly Yassir Al-habib and Mujtaba Shirazi such scholars have few followers & the average Shia dosnt even know them!
Instead of wasting your time looking for the silly Shia that are doing the wrong thing! If you really want to know about the Shia why don't you sit with a knowledge Shia sheik or sayed or even a person and really find out what Shia is!!!! I'm Shia my husband is Sunni we have no problems! Because we are both mature and believe rubbish like this!!!
There you go again your classing all Shia in one category because of some silly ones I don't teach my kids to curse all together let alone the sahaba I'm not the one on YouTube creating rubbish and stirring the pot!!! Which by the way is FITNA!!! Maybe you need to look the word up! Your so called forum has discussions Muslim vs Shia which you support! By saying MUSLIM vs SHiA is that you not saying we are non believes KAFAR!! I think ur the 1 that needs 2 stop lying!
I judge you according to your books and what your major scholars say, not what your personal opinion is. I know there are Shia who are good and they don't curse the Sahaba and Umahatul Muminin but the problem(all the hatred, takfir, curse etc) is in your texts (books) from which your kids learn.
You want to talk about a sect being killed,tortured,kiddnapped etc let's talk about the Shia in Bahrain!! Now pls tell it's some how their fault, I can not believe how strong the hatred is inside you I actually feel sorry for you, there will always be division in Islam as long ad there are people like you because you will only teach your kids the same hatred it's pretty sad!
Interesting Comment. Do we teach our kids to curse people or you? Do you we teach them to hate fulan and fulan? I am not creating fitna, I am just showing what the shia think about the 90% of Muslims.
When did I say that the shia are Kafir? Why are you lying?
And about the Iraqi war stop acting like your so naive they are attacking eachother from both sects Sunnis are doing just as much as the Shia and vice versa and it starts from like you who start this fitna!!!! May Allah guide you !!
Instead of putting all your energy in trying to divide Islam and cause fitna by posting fake videos or videos of a very small minority of Shia that do silly things why dont you use that energy in trying to be a good muslim if thats what you really want to be! Fitna is harram in Islam incase you didn't know in the Quran it tells us we can not even judge a Christian or Jew but yet iv seen other things you have posted and said about Shia not being Muslim! If I wanted too I can list many things th
He also says that according to SHIA FIQH the Sunnis are 'Haram Zadeh'. So he is talking according to Shia Fiqh. I think the problem is with your texts (books), isn't it?
Now can you tell me Who is the main stream shia? people like Khomaini? In his book he wrote that Aisha (ra) is filthy than dogs. I know there are some shia who don't accept these filth from theiir books and scholars and I respect those shias.
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Well Ayatollah Khamenei (whom I follow), Hassan Nasrallah and other claim that it is HARAM to say what this guy is saying. it is haram to curse the sahaba, the wives of the prophets etc.
The cursing of fatima al zahra isn't something i made up, she says it clearly to abu bakr and omar when they deny her the right of the property of faddak: I will curse you in my every prayer and tell rasolallah how you deviated from the deen after his demise. She died in her twentys and her tomb is kept secret and there are hadiths that says she asked from imam ali to be burried in secret from them. The evidence are the! Asalamo aleiki ya sayedat nisa al alamin ya fatima ya mazloma!
It is so sad you believe in these fairy tales. These lies have placed in your hearts and brains so that you hate Abubakr (ra) and Umar (ra) because without hating the Sahaba (ra), the shia sect will cease to exist.
The issue of Fadak was resolved, Fatima (ra) accepted the ruling of Abubakr (ra) on it and became pleased with him and never talked to him on this matter of Fadak again.
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@AbuMuslimKhorasani Discusing with you isn't possible i see. It's aright, you have your opinion and i have mine. But believe me hating sahaba is the last thing i do, i love salman al farsi, miqdad, abu dharr very much but i don't make their names as big as the prophets or ahlul bayt salamolah aleyhom ajmain. Unfortenetly you do make abu bakr, omar&othmans names greater than imam ali and thats where our differences are,
We the Ahle Sonnat love all Sahaba and Ahlelbayt and we don't hate anyone. We are not the people of hate and curse. This is the beauty of Ahle Sonnat, those who follow the Sunnah of the Prophet of Allah (saw).
Amirul Muminin Ali ibn Abi Talib (ra) is our great Imam and the 4th Rightly Guided Caliph.
Didnt imam Ali fight for his divine right? The ''sahaba'' burned down his house, killed his wife fatima and angered her alot. If you are going to say that they didn't anger and kill her then please think about it, where is fatimas tomb today? Nobody knows since she asked from amir al mominen to be buried in secret during night. Prophet mohammad took distance from abu sufyan and muwaiyah and stil you say (ra) to the killer of imam ali and imam al hassan? Thats double standars according to me!
Please stop these fairy-tales. No one burned the house of the lion of Allah, Ali (ra), and no one can do it. No one killed the best daughter of Rasulullah (saw), Fatima Zahra, and no one can do it since she was the wife of the brave Sahabi.
Mother of believers, Aisha (ra) was also burried at night so what does it prove? Unfortunately, your heart and brain has been filled with hatred and wrong information and nothing else.
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Please stop it that um khultum was married to omar. She was married to awn ibn jaffar ibn abu talib. Abu bakr had a daughter to whose name was um khultum but to try showing shia wrong that imam ali loved the other sahaba you claim he gave his daughter to them. Go read hadith that omar asked for imam alis daughter and he answers: i promised jafar to give her to awn. Then Omar goes to talha n zubair angry and saying i will burn down his house if he doesn't give me his daughter!
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Then the other theory is that they forced him to give her to them. Imam jafar sadiq (as) was asked about the marriage betwen omar and um khultum, his answer was: Certainly ''they'' forced amir al mominen to give her up. But al hamdulilah he managed to win her back. Listen even if imam ali could have killed all 3 sahaba without any difuculties but he wouldnt have ben representive of the deen then. Besides fatima cursed them in her every prayer before dying, punishment enough!
The house of Prophet (saw) was also destroyed and burned, his followers were killed, tortured and expelled, did he stop his prophethood? Did he stop the message of Islam? How can you even think that BB Fatima Zahra (ra) was beaten by some Sahaba and Ali (ra) was just looking at them and doing nothing. How can Ali (ra) gave his daughter to the killer of his wife? Please think about these and be honest.
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Yeah it was destroyed after his death by the wahabi state of saudi arabia. Imam ali (as) didnt stopp his message ether and kept his opposition to thoose 3 men. Secondly imam ali isn't a sahabi, i'm so tired of hearing him being compared to those other ''sahabi'', he is the prophets brother and thats what they jused to call eachother ''akhi'' and never sahbi as you say! Aisha was buried during night but fatima al zahras tomb kept a secret because ''sahaba'' angered her!
The Prophet (saw) also called Abubakr (ra) as his brother. It seems you don't even know the definition of a Sahabi. Imam Ali (as) never opposed those 3 men (ra) but rather he worked with them in their govrnment. Do you know, when Umar (ra) went to liberate palistine, he appointed Ali (ra) as Caliph? If those 3 (ra) were really bad , why Ali (ra) worked with them. If you don't believe our books at least believe yours. These are all also mentioned in your books.
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Well i dissagre with you, fatima al zahra didnt come to terms with abu bakr or omar and i dont blame her, they threatened her, hit her and made up their own rules that sons n' daughters of prophets dont inherit, they resemble ahl saud who came up with demonstrations are against sharia. The funny thing is that when it was time to elect a new khalifa after omar he made fraud elections so that All people close to imam Ali couldn't vote for him and rigged it to osmans advantage.
Dear, it seems you haven't heard the Hadeeths. Fatima (ra) was convinced by Abubakr (ra) about this issue and She became pleased. And please stop your fairly tales about attack on Fatima (ra). This never happened at all. I request to watch this series on youtube: The Unbroken Rib
Even some shia grand ayatolahs like Syed Hussain Fadhlullah, denied this fake incident. Watch it.
The issue of inheritence is even mentioned in your books i.e. Al-Kafi
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Keep on believing that her rib never broke and that muhsin ibn ali never died in fer womb. Just tell me why she was 20 when she died and that she wanted to be buried in secret? The issue of fadak never was resolved and thats why omar ibn al khattabs grandson who was khalif of the ummayad gave fadak back to imam al baqir because he knew abu bakr and omar wronged the most beloved of rasol allah. I don't agree with sayed fadlallah. even doe i knew his opinions quite well.
Ok, let me ask, why Ali (ra) didn't return Fadak? Do you know what Ali (ra) said:[from shia books]:
“I am ashamed before Allah to overturn something that was prohibited by Abu Bakr and continued by ‘Umar.” (al-Murtada, ash-Shafi fil-Imamah, p. 231; and Ibn Abil Hadid, Sharh Nahj al-Balaghah, vol. 4)
If Fatima (ra) died at the age of 20, it doesn't mean she was killed. Ayazubillah. Regarding the attack on Fatima (ra), there is NO proof, not even in shia books?
@AbuMuslimKhorasani I will be brief in typing som quotes of fatimat al zahra because or else it will be to much. These words are from nahjul balagha: Ali bury me in the night and do not let those who have been cruel to me attend my funeral. Let not my suffering embitter (anger you) in your life. Second your 4 madhabs in sunni school are not even in line with eachother when it comes to inheritance and you talk about imam alis knowledge about it. Certainly haron inherited from moussa
@AbuMuslimKhorasani As should fatima have done from the prophet. And you claim prophet dont leave inheritance, then why accept some to leave inheritance but fatima is forbidden to get her sher ? You opress her right as omar and abu bakr did. This is the last time i write because your arguments dont make sence according to me, it's hard talking to a heart that is hardened as yours is. Inshallah you may be more open minded towards shiat Ali in the future. Wa salam o alekiom
Yes, they had other properties but except Fadak. You didn't answer me. You said "Umar ibn Abdul Aziz returned fadak because he understood that Abubakr(ra) And Umar(ra) was wrong."
Now what about Ali (ra)? When he became the Caliph, why he didn't return Fadak?
It is you who need to be open minded. It is your who believe in these fairy-tales with no authentic evidence. I pray to Allah for your guidance.
@AbuMuslimKhorasani When imam Ali was caliph it was in his possesion so it was returned to banu hashim again but the property really belonged to fatima al zahra and she had passed away and so the real inheritor couldn't make her claim anymore. Later on the umayads took it from ahlul bayt and then omar abdul aziz returned it again. Very simple and doesn't need much explenation.
@AbuMuslimKhorasani The reason being me dont want to talk religion with you is that i see you're an angry muslim. When visiting your paige i see you claiming iran was sunni and they were opressed and so on. All your videos is about misscrediting shia. Why dont we claim egypt was ours as it belong to the fatimids and so on? Why don't you uppload videos of shias being slaughterd in the millions in bahrain, saudi, iraq, pakistan, iran and so on? You see now why i called you blind brother?
No, I am not angry and what I wrote is the reality. The condition of shias in Bahrain, Saudi, Pakistan is 100 times better than the condition of Persian Sunnis who are living in 'Islamic' republic of Iran under the leadership of 'Imam' Khamenae.
Fatimids ONLY ruled Egpyt, egypt was never a shia. Egypt became Muslim during the Caliphate of Amir Al-Muminin Umar bin Khatab (ra), and the Commander who conquered Egypt was Amr ibn Al-as (ra).
@AbuMuslimKhorasani The baluchi people has it pretty god in baluchistan except for their poverty but many persians are also poor. Second i see you forgott to type in Iraq. How come? The shia who has been slaughtered there is worse than what hitler did to the jews, ordinary people visiting shrines are blown up by fanatics, in bahrain at the moment more than 30 holy places have been destroyed and peple are being tortured and murdered, as in saudi they have on mosque in qatif for half a million?
You mentioned Iraq. Unfotunately, you are not even awar about whats happening to Iraqi Sunnis. Baghdad used to be a mix city (both shia and Sunni) but now the Sunnis are less than 10%. Who drove them out their houses, killed them and looted their properties and occupied their houses? Who is ruling Iraq?
Please write on youtube search bar: Shia Death Squads
@AbuMuslimKhorasani im aware of those death squads. But they came as a response to bath, al-qaida, wahabis and other extrimist blowing them up in imam kadhim mosque, imam askari mosque, imam hussein mosque, imam ali mosque and so on. That is an explenation to why these death squads emerged. But the sad thing is that some pople work to divide the ummah and you are a part of it. Instead of praying to allah for understanding you make people get the wrong understanding of the teachings of the shia
Are you serios? Are they killing Al-Qaeda or Sunni innocent civilians. They killed Sunnis with the names Abubakr and Umar.
Sad thing is you and the shia stab us from behind and then accuse us for dividing the Ummah. You and the shia call for shia-sunni unity but then stab us from behind. You call for shia and sunny unity but drove thousands of Sunnis from their homes in Iraq (esp baghdad).
Don't worry, the time is not far when... Inshallah.
@AbuMuslimKhorasani What a hatred. Allah i fateh aqlak wa qalbak ya rab. I haven't done nothing so don't use the phrase YOU please. Second i'm for unity because the more divided we get the more problems will emerge as well. The time is not far from what i may ask? Listen here, hatred begetts hatred and i aint going to walk on this path, whatever you say wont get me angry because sunnis are my brothers and sisters and inshallah you will stop your desire to divide as well, bi izen illah.
@AbuMuslimKhorasani If the case is that sunnis has it bad i feel for them from the bottom of my heart. I'm against opression of all mankind for Allah never put religion here so we can opress eachother, he put religion on this earth to learn us ethics in how to behave with our brothers and sisters regardless of etnicity. Are you claiming that the fatimid empire wasn't shia and that the idrisid wasn't shia? Wake up brother don't be so blind, go and read instead of learning from religious madmen!
The Persian Sunnis who are largest group after the Shia are NOT allowed to build a single mosque in the capital of 'Islamic republic of Iran, ruled by 'Supreme Leader', the one who gives slogans of 'Shia-Sunni Unity'.
When did I say they were never shia? I said Egypt was never a shia country. The Fatimids were Ismaeli Shia and Idirsids were Zaydi shia who ruled morroco.
@AMK: So tell me, where did Sunnah go when it doesn't suit you? The Koran is guidance for mankind, there are hidden and revealed meanings in it for those who seek Guidance but what happened to Sunnah? The Prophet made it clear to people who his successor was to be at Ghadeer & there are numerous 'saheeh'' hadeeth about 12 Imams - why would they have to be temporal rulers to qualify for leadership? Was the Prophet not a Prophet before conquest of Makkah?!?
@AMK: Ulil Amr in Holy Koran refers to those in Aurhority. Not man-made authority as this is destined to fail but authority granted by Allah. Regards sunnah, I'm more than happy to copy paste hadeeth from your saheeh books regards the 12 chieftains/caliphs from Bani Quraysh? You people downplay the role & relevance of any narration that implies authority to the Ahlulbayt - this is against the Koran & Prophets command....
Ulil Amr means a ruler and it is not limited to 12, it does not refer to divinely appointed infallable rulers because the verse clearly states, "if you have dispute on anything refer it to Allah and the Messenger" but it doesn't say "refer it to the Infallable Imam" or "those in authority". Moreover, the people whom you claim to be your Imams, 9 of them never ruled the Muslim Ummah so they never had any authority. How do you deal with this?
@Wilayaat The fact they are from Quraysh already defeats your argument. 12ers claim that they MUST be a descendant. Had they MUST be, it should of said, twelve from AHL BAYT. Quraysh is a big tribe, and it obviosuly didn't mean that there is ONLY twelve calpihs, because i don't think Hassan (R.A) would of gave the caliphate to Muawiyah (R.A) up if it was only for 12.
@AMK: Please stop presuming you know me or guessing whether or not I've studied Islamic history from a 'neutral' source - something you obviously have not done. Your constant denial of Ghadeer & insistence on dragging in fasiqs to "compete" with status of Maula Ali (AS) speaks volumes about your denial of the Truth; recorded by Shia, Sunni & non-Muslim scholars. When did Prophet (S) proclaim anyone else as Maula with audience of tens of thousands?
I never denied Ghadeer. Yes, it is recorded in Sunni sources but it doesn't prove your point. You see, how weak is the whole shia argument i.e. Ghadeer. You can't prove it from Quran and also can't prove it from Sunnah.
You need to read the background of Ghadeer incident to understand.
@Wilayaat The fact that you are fighting for Ali (R.A) supposed DIVINE right to become the first caliph, more than Ali (R.A) himself even fought for it, in which he authentically didn't even, seems so ridiculous as your supposed love for him.
When we ask them why Ali (ra) didn't fight for his 'divine' right. They shia say, 'for sake of unity'. So we tell the shia, then why don't you keep quite for sake of unity.
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Why dont you sunnis keep quite for the sake of unity i may ask in a retro question? I have seen you call us shia rafidite. Who are you to judge? Sunnis invited wahabis to pray with them and have let cancer in to our ummah and because of that ahlul sunna unfortunatly are mixed with wahabis just as jews are mixed with the term zionism. You blow us up in iraq, pakistan, iran. You opress us in jemen, saudi and bahrain. Who is it that deviates from the ummah then i may ask?
@AMK: "Recorded the name & power of Islam" - what are talking about? They were usurpers & chancers. They were AT Ghadeer, saw the Prophet (S) make Maula Ali (A) the successor yet at Saqifa they went against the Prophets (S) edict. And on many other occasions they did the same, all recorded in YOUR 'saheeh' books! Pointless discussing with you, your obsession with painting bad as good stops you from seeing simple truth...
Please read the history of Islam from a neutral source. Don't exploit the beautiful history of Islam with these fabricated and basless stories and fairy tales. The Prophet (SAW) never made anyone as his successor. What is your proof? Calling someone 'Mawla' doesn't mean he is successor. The Prophet (SAW) also said to many other companions as his 'Mawla' so are they too successors of the Prophet (SAW)?
@AMK: Again with trying to move the goalposts. I asked you to give me specifics post-Saqifa of insult/cursing etc. of sahababa aside from a tiny minority (who are disparaged for good reason). I want names from verified Shia books of repute with names. If someone goes against Allah, Prophet or Ahlulbayt then he or she is no longer worthy of respect...
I provided your own hadith that everyone became apostate, isn't this insult and takfir? These tiny people you are talking were those who recorded the name of Islam, the power of Islam in history. Those tiny people you are talking about were the greatest friends of Ahlulbait (ra).
"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah and those who are with him are strong against unbelievers, but merciful amongst each other" [Quran]
PS: And I am not judging them or comparing them to me, history has recorded their words & actions. Sadly (and it is genuinely sad) their record is not good but for some inexplicable reason Sunnis want to gloss over these and want us to love & respect usurpers, despots & nepotists....
@funufana: There is very good reason & precedence (from Quran & Hadeeth) to curse those who usurp rights & violate the Sharia. Tell me, just because a person is selected to be leader by another does that automatically make pious, righteous, beyond reproach? At Ghadeer Maula Ali (A) was made "successor", Umar was amongst those who congratulated him - then what happened at Saqifa & WHY?
@AMK: Good try but no brownie. Only a handful of sahaba didn't apostate at that time because at Ghadeer thousands congratulated Imam Ali (AS) on becoming "successor" but when the time came they seemed to forget. STILL waiting for proof that Shia speak bad of any sahaba beyond a tiny handful .....
page 36. Abu Jafar (alaihi salam): “People became apostates after prophet (s) except 3 of them”. I said: “Which 3 of them?” He said: Al-Miqdad ibn al-Aswad, Abu Dharr al-Qifari, Salman al-Farisi…. [“Ihtiyar marifatul Rijal” of sheikh Tusi.], [Kafi], etc. (I can give you scan images)
page.40 Abu Jafar said: People apostated except 3 of them: Salman, Abu Dharr and Miqdad. [“Ihtiyar marifatul Rijal” of sheikh Tusi.]
and many many more... I can also show you insults even from Khumeni
@AMK: Still waiting for proof from established Shia books that aside from a handful of prominent 'sahaba' we have hatred towards the majority of these respectful companions. Let's make it easier; Sunnis say there were over 100,000 sahaba. Shia dislike about 10 of them (for good reason). That's .001%. How on Earth does this equate to blanket hatred!?!?
It seems you are not aware of shia beliefs. Everyone became apostate except 5 or 7. Please ask your local cleric or your shia brothers before commenting.
@Wilayaat becouse to the sunnis only those matter the most and the rest are important too besides they were the sunnas leaders so why curse to begin with leave them alone if they have sinned they will be punnished by their lord and if not they wont be who are you to curse them and judge them shia must judge them selfs before they judge others who knows where you will end up ahle sunna do not curse any one and respect the ahle buyait so do the same or there will be hatefull division 4 ever
AMK: Please stop moving the goalposts; of the prominent sahaba the majority apostated at wafa'at of Holy Prophet (S). Prove to me then that sahaba aside from 3 Caliphs, Muawiyah, Talha, Zubair & handful of others are disliked by Shia. Proof by name please, not general comments.
@AMK: The vast majority of sahaba are either respected by Shia or neutral, how does dislike of a tiny handful (for whom there is good reason to distance from) equate to all-out hatred? It doesn't by any measure. Shia love & respect Hz Abu Dhar, Hz Bilal, Hz Ammar Yasir, Hz Salman al Farsi to name a few.
You are saying the opposite. Why don't you say vast majority of Sahaba are hated by shia except: Hz Abu Dhar, Hz Bilal, Hz Ammar Yasir, Hz Salman al Farsi etc. It is the shia belief that everyone became apostate except the people you mentioned.
@AMK: These events ALL happened, they're in black & white in books of history from Sunni scholars also, not just Shia writers. It's a filthy myth that Shia hate sahaba: out of tens of thousands of companions & numerous wives of the Prophet (S) how many are we talking about? Less than 10 companions who were in the wrong and ONE wife.
Abu Bakr usurped rights of Hz Fatima (S). Umar went with mob to Imam Ali's (A) home to force pledge of allegiance. Ayesha INITIATED war against Imam Ali (A). Muawiyah INITIATED war against Imam Ali (A) & cursing from pulpit. He was complicit in poisoning of Imam Hassan (A). Are these the acts of people with great relationships?!?!?
All these claims are falsely explained to shia layman. Your brain was filled with these hateful beliefs from the early. You were brainwashed and taught these hate 'they hated each other', but the Quran says "they were merciful amongst each other". Thats why you can't tolerate to listen one good thing about Sahaba (ra) but only love to hear bad about them. May Allah guide you and me.
@AMK: The event of Ghadeer was defining moment & clear-cut reason. You don't follow the Ahlulbayt (AS), if you did your fiqh would be from them, not one of the 4 Imams. You don't love them, if you did you would distance yourself from their enemies & usurpers. But you claim to love them so the narration you quote is applicable to you.... t
Dear friend, you have great misconception. We don't love their enemies and usurpers. The people whom you call enemy or usurper were actually the friends of the Ahlulbait (ra). They have great relationship with each other.
@AMK: Shame on your filthy lies. How on Earth does leading prayers make Abu Bakr most righteous? Was he even close to Imam Ali (AS) in piety? NO. Your Nasibi beliefs sicken me, you deny Ghadeer & status of Ahlulbayt (AS) at every opportunity just to try & lift up your 'heroes'...
I don't deny, the incident of Ghadeer occured. We love Ahlulbayt (ra) and we follow them more than you. We are the true followers of Ahlulbait (ra). You claim to love them but in reality you hate them and they are free of what you attribute to them.
Read what Imam Jafar Sadiq (ra) said:“No one bears us greater hatred than those who claim to love us.” (Abdullâh al-Mâmaqânî, Miqbâs al-Hidâyah vol. 2 p. 414 (Mu'assasat? al-Bayt li-Ihyâ' at-Turâth, Beirut 1991) quoting from Rijâl Kashi)
@AMK: When it suits you you quote non-Saheeh books, when it doesn't you say 'because it's not in a saheeh book it's not correct'. Tell me, did Allah, Koran, Prophet validate your 'saheeh' books? NO. Back to Ghadeer; well documented , accepted by many Sunni scholars also (Tahir ul Qadri for example) so stop being a Nasibi liar PLEASE.
@AMK: Many times, the Prophet (a.s.) said about Ali and his followers: By Him, in Whose hand my soul is, this (Ali) and his Shia are certainly the winners on the Day of Resurrection. - Al-Manaqib by Al-Khwarazimi the Hanafite page 62. (PS: Ibn Hajr quote should read page 96 & 159, NOT 59).
@AMK:The messenger of Allah (a.s.) said to Ali: Are you not pleased that you shall be with me in the Paradise, and al-Hasan, al-Husayn, and our progeny behind our backs, our wives behind our progeny, and our Shia (followers) to our left and right sides? as-Saw'aiq al-Muhriqa by ibn Hajr pg 59. Sunni book by famous anti-Shia scholar, seeing as you're now happy to reject 'saheeh'' books WHEN it suits you.....
Thats aya is about true sahabas.......not about fake
baltii11 1 month ago
When Prophet Muhammed (sawa) said: After me is Ali and his progeny, but what happened when Prophet Died? People Chose Abu bakr, then omar, then Usman, then Ali! If Prophet Say Ali, it means Allah (swt) say Ali, So Allah chose Ali, not Abu bakr, omar or ,usman, show me 1 hadeeth that Prophet Muhammed said after me follow Abu bakr, no! he didnt said so, he said Ali!. Abu Bakr and Omar Shouted to Prophet (sawa) and he who shouts to prophet, all his good Amaal is removed!,
ehsan16 1 month ago
This guy is real shia good on you mate lol
MUSTAFAJAFFERY 2 months ago
وجدت حثالة عيال المتعه هنا يلعنون و يشتمون ، و ينسبون حبهم للمصطفى صلوات ربي و سلامه عليه الذي قال : إني لم ابعث لعاناً و إنما بُعثت رحمه ، شدق الله أفواههم و حشرهم مع ملة اللعانيين ، قولوا آمين
Afraofsheffield 2 months ago
may curse be on omer,abubaker,shamr,.May the curse of allah ,the porphets all 120 thousand curse and the seven layers of earth and the seaven layers of heaven curse be upon them.And i porvok allah curse on them every day and any of my shia brother reading this read ZIYARATE AOSHURA and send curse to Omer .and send belessing to the prophets(peace be upone him) heart imam hussian (as)
12345kingme 2 months ago
mashallah. well done for speaking the truth
UmarKhabeesKutta 2 months ago
Kafir
qadianiyonkimout 2 months ago
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It is a historical fact that Ali named three of his own children as Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman.
This fact is recorded by the classical Shia scholar, Shaikh Mufid, in "Kitab al-Irshad", pp. 268-269, where these three sons of Ali are listed as numbers 12, 6 and 10 respectively
WHAT A LANAT FROM ALI ON SHIANE IBLEES THAT BY KEEPING HIS SONS NAMES ON THREE KHULFAS ALI HAS BLOWED A POWERFUL PUNCH ON THE LANTI FACES OF SHIANE IBLEES AND ALI HAS PROVED THAT HE HAS NO LINK WITH SHIAS.
Islam1491 3 months ago
harami harami umer gandu harami
hussainisoldier50 3 months ago
@hussainisoldier50
U are reason behind killing so many hussaini's in Palestine and yet you are saying you are a Shia.
Karbala is not just a story, it is complete philosophy of life.
myinfotech001 2 months ago
Kafir Kaffir Shia KAFIR sipa e sahaba zinda bad you bastards call your self muslim with out sahaba islam would not go outside of madina
talhaharoon09 3 months ago
Its true sunnis are bastards.
MUSTAFAJAFFERY 3 months ago
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گستاح صحا بہ۰گستاح رسول۔ مطلب منافق۔۔۔ لعنتی لعنتی لعنتی
younasustb 3 months ago
i am iranian and i love Umar ibn Khattab (ra) and the beloved sahaban Abu Bakr (ra) Allah have made them leaders of the elders in jannat..
i am truly very sad that my people have gone astray, may Allah azza wajjal make the entire Iran ahle sunnah wa jamah Ameen
sunnahproduction 3 months ago 16
@sunnahproduction
Ameen to your Dua baradar.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 3 months ago
@sunnahproduction Salam from Singapore!
oofeewise 3 months ago
@sunnahproduction bullshit... you are not shia.. and to hell with your fathers you fucking zarthush
1977hero 3 weeks ago
@1977hero i am sunni iranian, i stated in the comment may Allah make the entire Iran ahle sunnah once again inshaAllah... yaad begir harf zadan, Elahi Allah toro be rahe mostaqim biyare ke betoni biyahi behesht... the true path is ahle sunnah, the same way as Prophet Muhammad (saw) (pbuH)
sunnahproduction 2 weeks ago
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سّیدنا آنحضرت ﷺ نے فرمایا : لوگوں پر ایسا زمانہ آ�أ گا جب اسلام کا صرف نام باقی رہ جا�أ گا اور قرآن کے صرف الفاظ باقی رہ جائیں گے۔ اُن کی مسجدیں ظاہر میں تو آباد ہونگی لیکن ہدایت کے لحاظ سے بالکل ویران ہونگی۔ اس زمانہ کے لوگوں کے علماء آسمان کے نیچے بدترین مخلوق ہوں گے۔ اُنہی میں سے فتنے نکلیں گے اور انہی میں واپس لوٹ جائیں گے۔
( مشکوٰۃ المصابیح،فصل الثالث،کتاب العلم،جلد نمبر1 صفحہ91 )
apnibasirat 3 months ago
I Ask only 1 question from sunnis and my question is:
Why we don't la'an Omar, Abu bakr and Usman if they weren't even muslims!! Omar didnt even know al Faatiha, and he killed Prophets Daughter, al Zahraa(AS)
ehsan16 4 months ago
@ehsan16
Watch this ==> watch?v=c8RSHLd5UGA#! <== , Shia Grand Ayatollah can't even recite al-Fatiha and other short Surahs.
The story that Omar (ra) killed BiBi Fatima (ra) is not authentic but a BIG fabrication by the people of Fitna. Do you know Shia Grand Ayatolah of lebanon Sayed Fadhlullah rejected this story.
Please watch this and see him yourself:
watch?v=Er0qHW0nweY
AbuMuslimKhorasani 3 months ago
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@AbuMuslimKhorasani Like i see, they all recite finely Qur'an, so plz don't change the discussion, u needed to first of all answer to my Question, plz! : Why we don't la'an Omar, Abu bakr and Usman if they weren't even muslims!! Omar didnt even know al Faatiha, and he killed Prophets Daughter, al Zahraa(AS), go and read ur own Sunni Book: Sahih Bukhari. If u find from ur books that only 1 time Omar (la'anatullahe Alayh) have helped Prophet(sawa) in the wars or even bled enemysnose Icome sunni
ehsan16 3 months ago
@ehsan16 You disgusting Rafidis are not even equal to an atom of the dust on the path of my Masters Sayyidina Abu Bakr and Sayyidina Umar (Radiallahu Ta'aala Anhum) May Allah grant you and your cursed kind your just reward.
Umar8908 3 months ago
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@ehsan16 you need help man.. I'm serious.. you really need help !
ShqipeMeDyKrena1 3 months ago
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talhaharoon09 3 months ago
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@ehsan16 and you guys call yourself's muslim ok answer one thing in shia religion is it ok to fuck your mother and fuck your sister with a peice of silk on your dick awnser and you guy's do mutta (Temporary Marriage) first of that's Made up no where in the quran says temporary marriage is okay.And fucking your own mother and sister ok thats just plainly fucked up.
talhaharoon09 3 months ago
@ehsan16: May Allah guide you my friend what the hik ur talking about and who thought you this???? those are our profit companions how can you such a thing, you need to read more and revisit your beliefs.
Basem63 1 month ago
@Basem63 u need to read history sahabas killed usman also will u call those people right
raza2nice 1 week ago
they killed ali r.a.......killed hassan r.a .........killed hussain r.a and his whole family slaughtered by them......they are responsible for this all bloodshed and violence.
MrMuaviakhan 4 months ago
first see who is founder of this cult...ibn e saba and apostate .......a jew......who found this myth religion.shias belief is based on myth,cursing,abuse and hate.
MrMuaviakhan 4 months ago
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9:100And the foremost, the first of the Emigrants (Mohajirs)and the Helpers (Ansars),and those who followed them in goodness Allah is well pleased with them and they are well pleased with Him,and He has prepared for them Gardens wherein flow rivers,abiding therein for ever.That is the mighty achievement.SHIANE IBLEES CURSE SAHABAS WHEREAS ALLAH IS PLEASED WITH THEM.ALI HAS KEPT HIS SONS NAMES AS ABU BAKR,UMAR AND USMAN AND HAS CLEARLY SHOWN THAT HE HAS NO LINK WITH SHIANE IBLEES.
Islam1491 4 months ago
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"Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah and those with him are harsh with the disbelievers and gentle among themselves.So that the disbelievers may become enraged with them."(48:29)Whoever becomes enraged when the sahaba are mentioned is the one about whom the verse speaks.
The Prophet is closer to the believers than their ownselves, and his wives are their mothers (33:6).
ALLAH HAS CLEARLY TOLD THAT WHO HATE SAHABAS AND PIOUS UMUL MOMNINS ARE DISBELIEVERS (KUFFARS/MUNAFIQEENS).
Islam1491 4 months ago
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In the Nahjul Balagha, one of the most revered books of the Shia,Ali said:
“With regard to me, two categories of people will be ruined, namely he who loves me too much and the love takes him away from rightfulness (SHIAS),and he who hates me too much and the hatred takes him away from rightfulness (KHARJIS).The best man with regard to me is he who is on the middle course (SUNNI)So be with him and be with the great majority of Muslims because Allah’s hand of protection is on keeping unity.
Islam1491 4 months ago
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MUNAFAQAT OF SHIAS:
SHIAS NEVER ACCEPT ANY SON OF HASAN AS INFALLIBLE IMAM. HASAN HAS A LOT OF SONS BUT NONE OF HIS SON IS INFALLIBLE IMAM, WHY? WERE THEY NOT PIOUS? WERE THEY NOT FROM AHLE BAIT? SHIAS SAY THAT ALLAH APPOINTS INFALLIBLE IMAMS. WHERE ALLAH HAS SAID THAT NO SON OF HASAN IS ELIGIBLE FOR INFALLIBLE IMAMAT?
WHY SHIAS DONT DO MATAM FOR HAMZA? WHERE SHIAS LOVE DISAPPEAR FOR HAMZA.
Islam1491 4 months ago
I AM NOT SURPRISED THAT THIS MAN CURSES THE SAHABA THIK OF THIS MUSLIMS THE SHIA RAFIDI NEVER CURSE ABU LAHAB ABU JAHL PHAROH SO CURSING SAHABA TO THEM IS SMALL PART OF THERE AQEEDAH IS TO CURSE THIS IS WHAT THERE SCHOLORS DO THEY FOLLOW A MAN CALLED ABDUALLAH IBN SABA THIS IS WHO FIRST START CURSING THE SAHABA A YEMENI JEW
12hamida 4 months ago
Shia is the best fuck all the rest
HaiderAliBidgley 4 months ago
@HaiderAliBidgley
yeah you are right, the video explains it all
AbuMuslimKhorasani 4 months ago
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@HaiderAliBidgley shias are the stupidest people on earth
imrkha1 4 months ago
@HaiderAliBidgley shia are the best in cursing the companions and ending up in HELL if you dont change your cours.
lavidaspeligrosa 4 months ago
@lavidaspeligrosa are you allah now? you can judge wether or not we go to heaven? its not part of shia islam to cure we place lanat which is a dua asking allah to remove the mercy from the individual can you show me where this is haram
islamistruth101 4 months ago
@islamistruth101 Are you sleeping or are you a small kid who is making stupid jokes. Cant you see my comment. shall i re-type it for you? do you know the meaning of my comment? Allah says clearley in the qoran that who ever make war with his friends Allah makes war with him. Are you aware that the muhajiroun and the ansaar are in the quran? Are you aware of what this stupid imam is saying? cursing Omar ibn Khattab? Radiallah 3anhou? re calculate your steps pal. You dont say anything logicaly.
lavidaspeligrosa 4 months ago
@lavidaspeligrosa you still cant say were going to hell thats allah's job, i can show you where allah called umar a hypocrite in the quran do you want me to do tht?
islamistruth101 4 months ago
@islamistruth101 I would like you to show us anything against Omar Ibn'e Khitab that is written in Quran.
theoxusriver 4 months ago
@HaiderAliBidgley oh here it is. so shia is the best huh? yes in cursing the companions the wife of the prophet muahmmed (SA) and i must agree with you by saying 'shia is the best'? no friend astghfirullah. I will never agree with people like you or your fake imam/hypocrite. just like all your ayatollah. A real imam is abdulmuntasir from iran. he tell the truth.
lavidaspeligrosa 4 months ago
@lavidaspeligrosa sahih bukhari well here you go v5 #494 'Umar said, "Then I made my camel run fast and took it in front of the other Muslims, AND I WAS AFRAID THAT SOMETHING MIGHT BE REVEALED IN MY CONNECTION. I had hardly waited for a moment when I heard somebody calling me. I said, 'I was afraid that something might have been revealed about me. this is only a part of the hadith its too long to post here but notice how umar was scare somthin would be reveled about him
islamistruth101 4 months ago
@lavidaspeligrosa surah 9:64The hypocrites fear lest a Surah (chapter of the Qur'an) should be revealed about them, SHOWING THEM WHAT IS IN THEIR HEARTS. Say: "Go ahead and mock! But certainly Allah will bring to light all that you fear, allah called umar a hypocrite in the quran subanallah i can also show you where he calls abu bakr a disbeleiver ill show u tht if u want, stop insulting shias without any proof that these people we are putin latnat upon are good people cus there not salam =)
islamistruth101 4 months ago
@islamistruth101
The Khawarij also quoted verses of Quran to make Takfeer of Hazrat Ali (ra). Shia are the brothers of Khawarij, infact you are worst than the Khawarij.
Lets ask Imam Jafar Sadiq (rah) about hypocrites: Ja’afar el Sadiq (rah) said: “Allah did not reveal a verse about Munafiqoon/hypocrites unless it was aimed at those who claim to be The Shiites” (Shia BOOK Rijal el Kisshi P 254).
AbuMuslimKhorasani 4 months ago
ZYAD DOKHTARE SHI I DAR LUBNAN PAKISTAN IRAN AFGHANISTAN IRAQ SLUTS HASTAND
manimgoindowndown 5 months ago in playlist manimgoindowndown's Favorited Videos
What a stupid so called scholar, he deserved a big slap.
almadinah 5 months ago
Shia and sunnis are the same...Shia was created by Imam Jafar Sadiq who was the teacher of Abu Hanifa and Malik...read the history...Islam has more than a hundred branches....Anyone who believes in Quran he or she is Muslim doesn't matter if u or shia or Sunni or u believe in hadith or not
nahiddanish 5 months ago
@nahiddanish
No brother you are mistaken.
Imam Jafar Sadiq (rah) is free of Shiism. He never believed in the foundation of Shia mazhab, the Imamate. He was a follower of Quran and Sunnah. The first person on earth who believed in divine appointment of Ali (ra), the first person who cursed Abubakr, Umar and Usman (ra) was Abdullah ibn Sabah. Therefore, the foundation and basic teachings of Shia come from this man, Abdullah ibn Saba.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 5 months ago
@nahiddanish Imam Jafar as Saddiq RA was the teacher to the founder of all four Mazhabs Maliki Shafii Hanbali Hanafi and is a respected scholar of al-Islam and Ahul-ul Bayt. In fact reading Jaffar As Saddiq in Shi'i sources you'd be surprised to find he never insulted the Sahaba, and actually recommends fasting on Ashura!
manimgoindowndown 5 months ago in playlist manimgoindowndown's Favorited Videos
@nahiddanish abdullah ibn sabah was the one created shias and he was an undercover jew. and imam jafar sadiq was a sunni and is in the naqshbandi sufi order so get your facts right
chadivadi 4 months ago
@chadivadi abdullah ibn saba did not create shias can you prove he did?
islamistruth101 4 months ago
HE IS A BASTARD HIMSELF!!!!
HE SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF HIMSELF, SAYING THAT ABOUT THE SAHABA!!!!!
MsNmgn 5 months ago
HE WILL KNOW WHEN HE DIES!!!!
MsNmgn 5 months ago
what is the name of the guy reading the ayah
gharib21 5 months ago in playlist gharib21's Favorited Videos
@gharib21
Salam Alaikum,
His name is Sheikh Ahmad al-ajami
AbuMuslimKhorasani 5 months ago
هذا هو الجحيم مولانا نذل الدموية فهو كافر
tibba673 5 months ago
لعنة الله عليكم! من الملائكة وجميع الخلق لنشر مثل هذه الاكاذيب ضد الأم للمسلمين وأفضل الخلق ، رسول الله! وسلم صلى الله عليه وآله وصحبه أجمعين الأطفال!
wdfknow 5 months ago
the shia sect was created by a jew back in 1652, a guy called nasir of iran. read history and you will find out.
imrankhan50 5 months ago
like i said shias are gay and they are outcasts. they get naked and whip themselves, like sex.
imrankhan50 5 months ago
All shias who are cursing & swearing on the companion of Prophet Muhammad PBUH are KAAFIR, KHINZEER (PIG)...& soon will taste the depth of HELL...they will die in biggest pain & will remain in increasing pain forever & ever & ever...INSHAALLAH
farash05 6 months ago
shame on you!!!!!!!!!
ansuhmj123 6 months ago
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"Indeed, Allah was pleased with the believers when they gave their pledge to you (O Muhammad) under the tree. He knew what was in their hearts and He sent down calmness and tranquility upon them..." [48:18]
FOUR KHULFAS AND 1400 SAHABAS WERE TAKING BAYT UNDER TREE WITH WHOM ALLAH IS PLEASED BUT SHIANE IBLEES CURSE THEM. SHIANE IBLEES ACTUALLY INSULT ALLAH BECAUSE ALLAH HAS PRAISED SAHABAS.
Islam1491 6 months ago
the faith of peace ?
stealthgerm 6 months ago
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"Indeed, Allah was pleased with the believers when they gave their pledge to you (O Muhammad) under the tree. He knew what was in their hearts and He sent down calmness and tranquility upon them..." [48:18]
FOUR KHULFAS AND 1400 SAHABAS WERE TAKING BAYT UNDER TREE WITH WHOM ALLAH IS PLEASED BUT SHIANE IBLEES CURSE THEM. SHIANE IBLEES ACTUALLY INSULT ALLAH BECAUSE ALLAH HAS PRAISED SAHABAS.
Islam1491 6 months ago
وَمِمَّنْ حَوْلَكُمْ مِنَ الْأَعْرَابِ مُنَافِقُونَ ۖ وَمِنْ أَهْلِ الْمَدِينَةِ ۖ مَرَدُوا عَلَى النِّفَاقِ لَا تَعْلَمُهُمْ ۖ نَحْنُ نَعْلَمُهُمْ ۚ سَنُعَذِّبُهُمْ مَرَّتَيْنِ ثُمَّ يُرَدُّونَ إِلَىٰ عَذَابٍ عَظِيمٍ
And among those around you of the wandering Arabs there are hypocrites, and among the townspeople of Al-Madinah (there are some who) persist in hypocrisy whom thou knowest not. We, We know them, and We shall chastise them twice; then they will be relegated to a painful doom.
zafonten 6 months ago
@zafonten , those hypocrites were abdullah bin ubi and party who raised a filthy blame against umul momnin syeda ayesha siddiqa. those who insult ayesha are followers of abdullah bin ubi and are hypocrites.
Islam1491 6 months ago
@Islam1491 you can't know them, because rasulallah (s) wasn't know them
this ayat proofs all sahaba were not mo'meen and muslim, some of them were munafiq. and if some body is munafiq, you can't know him belief. he appears like mo'meen
zafonten 6 months ago
@zafonten
In the verse the word "YOU" is plural. This means Allah (Swt) is telling the Prophet (saw) and Sahaba that "YOU (plural) do not know the hypocrites". The verse proves the hypocrites were FEW and the majority were believers (Mumin).
Now tell me how does the verse proves your point? and why do you shias have the habit of twisting the verses of Quran.
Also the previous verse (9:100) where Allah (swt) is praising the Sahaba (ra) and those WHO FOLLOW them.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 6 months ago
@zafonten its really horrible that you are spreading such hate only Allah s.w.a can forgive you it is true evil what you are doing please stop
yasminajamil 6 months ago
shias are kafar and lant on all shias
zeros8er098 6 months ago
@zeros8er098
The Shia layman are not Kafir but they are significantly misguided and I pray to Allah to guide them to the right path. Ameen
AbuMuslimKhorasani 6 months ago
@zeros8er098 Remember only one thing, Nabi ka janaza samnay rakh do, phir jo os janazay main nazar aye wo sahabi, aur jo nazar na aye wo Munafiq bi hai, lanti bi hai, aur bi jo dil main aye keh den, ab es list main umer aye ya bakar, jo bi ho, sub mil ker bolo meray sath, dushman e Zahra s.a per lanat beshumaaaaar........
TheYakkar 6 months ago
@TheYakkar imam baqir ke bhai,imam zaid ibn e ali ne bhi hazrat abu bakar aur hazrat omer ki tareef ki thi ,tu tum kon hotay ho unko bura kehne walay.imam zayd ibn e ali ki history wikipedia par parho ,tu tumhe pata chalay ga kay kis tarha tum shiaon ne unko dhoka dia.aur lafz rafizee sub se pahlay imam zaid ne shiaon ke liye istemal kia tha.
naghar25 5 months ago
lanat ullah on all shia kafr kafar shia kafar
zeros8er098 6 months ago
there is no doubt shia are kafirs...the one who insult the sahabas directly insulting to the prophet(peace be upon him) and the one who hurts prophet(peace be upon him) he is not at all a muslim,he is worse then the kafirs...shia peoples feel shame to speak any thing against the sahabas...may allah guide to the shias ameen
ahlusunnah77 7 months ago
useless debate about sunni or shia i hate both of them since they divided islam, unlike u in mid east here in indonesia we dont really care and dont wanna care about what is sunni what is shia, i have sunni friend and shia friend here and got no real problem with that ...
kurnie17 8 months ago
@izri1
No foul language.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 8 months ago
Dirty shia make me sick.
Recognise786 9 months ago
You don't own the forum but you contribute to it by adding post by posting this rubbish videos by supporting people on the forum that are calling people morons, shiat e dajjal etc i thought Islam taught manners and respect! Scholars that are cursing sahaba are mainly Yassir Al-habib and Mujtaba Shirazi such scholars have few followers & the average Shia dosnt even know them!
lyla242010 9 months ago
Instead of wasting your time looking for the silly Shia that are doing the wrong thing! If you really want to know about the Shia why don't you sit with a knowledge Shia sheik or sayed or even a person and really find out what Shia is!!!! I'm Shia my husband is Sunni we have no problems! Because we are both mature and believe rubbish like this!!!
lyla242010 9 months ago
There you go again your classing all Shia in one category because of some silly ones I don't teach my kids to curse all together let alone the sahaba I'm not the one on YouTube creating rubbish and stirring the pot!!! Which by the way is FITNA!!! Maybe you need to look the word up! Your so called forum has discussions Muslim vs Shia which you support! By saying MUSLIM vs SHiA is that you not saying we are non believes KAFAR!! I think ur the 1 that needs 2 stop lying!
lyla242010 9 months ago
@lyla242010
I don't own that forum.
I judge you according to your books and what your major scholars say, not what your personal opinion is. I know there are Shia who are good and they don't curse the Sahaba and Umahatul Muminin but the problem(all the hatred, takfir, curse etc) is in your texts (books) from which your kids learn.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 9 months ago
You want to talk about a sect being killed,tortured,kiddnapped etc let's talk about the Shia in Bahrain!! Now pls tell it's some how their fault, I can not believe how strong the hatred is inside you I actually feel sorry for you, there will always be division in Islam as long ad there are people like you because you will only teach your kids the same hatred it's pretty sad!
lyla242010 9 months ago
@lyla242010
Interesting Comment. Do we teach our kids to curse people or you? Do you we teach them to hate fulan and fulan? I am not creating fitna, I am just showing what the shia think about the 90% of Muslims.
When did I say that the shia are Kafir? Why are you lying?
AbuMuslimKhorasani 9 months ago
And about the Iraqi war stop acting like your so naive they are attacking eachother from both sects Sunnis are doing just as much as the Shia and vice versa and it starts from like you who start this fitna!!!! May Allah guide you !!
lyla242010 9 months ago
Instead of putting all your energy in trying to divide Islam and cause fitna by posting fake videos or videos of a very small minority of Shia that do silly things why dont you use that energy in trying to be a good muslim if thats what you really want to be! Fitna is harram in Islam incase you didn't know in the Quran it tells us we can not even judge a Christian or Jew but yet iv seen other things you have posted and said about Shia not being Muslim! If I wanted too I can list many things th
lyla242010 9 months ago
I am Shia and this man is going in a completely opposite direction to what main stream Shia think. Please do not judge us from this psycho.
x69Crunchyx 9 months ago
@x69Crunchyx
Salam Alaikum,
He also says that according to SHIA FIQH the Sunnis are 'Haram Zadeh'. So he is talking according to Shia Fiqh. I think the problem is with your texts (books), isn't it?
Now can you tell me Who is the main stream shia? people like Khomaini? In his book he wrote that Aisha (ra) is filthy than dogs. I know there are some shia who don't accept these filth from theiir books and scholars and I respect those shias.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 9 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Well Ayatollah Khamenei (whom I follow), Hassan Nasrallah and other claim that it is HARAM to say what this guy is saying. it is haram to curse the sahaba, the wives of the prophets etc.
Wasalaam.
x69Crunchyx 9 months ago
قال سبحانه : ( وَالسَّابِقُونَ الأَوَّلُونَ مِنَ الْمُهَاجِرِينَ وَالأَنصَارِ وَالَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوهُم بِإِحْسَانٍ رَّضِيَ اللّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُواْ عَنْهُ وَأَعَدَّ لَهُمْ جَنَّاتٍ تَجْرِي تَحْتَهَا الأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا ذَلِكَ الْفَوْزُ الْعَظِيمُ )
bassamabdalrahim 10 months ago
After all theses years I think they are taken it personal. any true muslim hear this rubish will figur out why majorty are sunnies.
bassamabdalrahim 10 months ago
The cursing of fatima al zahra isn't something i made up, she says it clearly to abu bakr and omar when they deny her the right of the property of faddak: I will curse you in my every prayer and tell rasolallah how you deviated from the deen after his demise. She died in her twentys and her tomb is kept secret and there are hadiths that says she asked from imam ali to be burried in secret from them. The evidence are the! Asalamo aleiki ya sayedat nisa al alamin ya fatima ya mazloma!
14maasomin 10 months ago
@14maasomin
It is so sad you believe in these fairy tales. These lies have placed in your hearts and brains so that you hate Abubakr (ra) and Umar (ra) because without hating the Sahaba (ra), the shia sect will cease to exist.
The issue of Fadak was resolved, Fatima (ra) accepted the ruling of Abubakr (ra) on it and became pleased with him and never talked to him on this matter of Fadak again.
Please watch this series: youtube (dot) / watch?v=Er0qHW0nweY
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Discusing with you isn't possible i see. It's aright, you have your opinion and i have mine. But believe me hating sahaba is the last thing i do, i love salman al farsi, miqdad, abu dharr very much but i don't make their names as big as the prophets or ahlul bayt salamolah aleyhom ajmain. Unfortenetly you do make abu bakr, omar&othmans names greater than imam ali and thats where our differences are,
14maasomin 10 months ago
@14maasomin
We the Ahle Sonnat love all Sahaba and Ahlelbayt and we don't hate anyone. We are not the people of hate and curse. This is the beauty of Ahle Sonnat, those who follow the Sunnah of the Prophet of Allah (saw).
Amirul Muminin Ali ibn Abi Talib (ra) is our great Imam and the 4th Rightly Guided Caliph.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
Didnt imam Ali fight for his divine right? The ''sahaba'' burned down his house, killed his wife fatima and angered her alot. If you are going to say that they didn't anger and kill her then please think about it, where is fatimas tomb today? Nobody knows since she asked from amir al mominen to be buried in secret during night. Prophet mohammad took distance from abu sufyan and muwaiyah and stil you say (ra) to the killer of imam ali and imam al hassan? Thats double standars according to me!
14maasomin 10 months ago
@14maasomin
Please stop these fairy-tales. No one burned the house of the lion of Allah, Ali (ra), and no one can do it. No one killed the best daughter of Rasulullah (saw), Fatima Zahra, and no one can do it since she was the wife of the brave Sahabi.
Mother of believers, Aisha (ra) was also burried at night so what does it prove? Unfortunately, your heart and brain has been filled with hatred and wrong information and nothing else.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Please stop it that um khultum was married to omar. She was married to awn ibn jaffar ibn abu talib. Abu bakr had a daughter to whose name was um khultum but to try showing shia wrong that imam ali loved the other sahaba you claim he gave his daughter to them. Go read hadith that omar asked for imam alis daughter and he answers: i promised jafar to give her to awn. Then Omar goes to talha n zubair angry and saying i will burn down his house if he doesn't give me his daughter!
14maasomin 10 months ago
@14maasomin
What if I show you SAHEEH shia hadiths about the marriage of Umar (ra) and Ume Kulsum bint Ali (ra)?
Umar (ra) married the daughter of Fatima Zahrra, the sister of Al-Hussain and Al-Hassan (ra).
Please come to: w w w (dot) Islamic - Forum (dot) net
for friendly discussion.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Then the other theory is that they forced him to give her to them. Imam jafar sadiq (as) was asked about the marriage betwen omar and um khultum, his answer was: Certainly ''they'' forced amir al mominen to give her up. But al hamdulilah he managed to win her back. Listen even if imam ali could have killed all 3 sahaba without any difuculties but he wouldnt have ben representive of the deen then. Besides fatima cursed them in her every prayer before dying, punishment enough!
14maasomin 10 months ago
@14maasomin
The house of Prophet (saw) was also destroyed and burned, his followers were killed, tortured and expelled, did he stop his prophethood? Did he stop the message of Islam? How can you even think that BB Fatima Zahra (ra) was beaten by some Sahaba and Ali (ra) was just looking at them and doing nothing. How can Ali (ra) gave his daughter to the killer of his wife? Please think about these and be honest.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani
and did he accept the rule of Mushrikeen on him?
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Yeah it was destroyed after his death by the wahabi state of saudi arabia. Imam ali (as) didnt stopp his message ether and kept his opposition to thoose 3 men. Secondly imam ali isn't a sahabi, i'm so tired of hearing him being compared to those other ''sahabi'', he is the prophets brother and thats what they jused to call eachother ''akhi'' and never sahbi as you say! Aisha was buried during night but fatima al zahras tomb kept a secret because ''sahaba'' angered her!
14maasomin 10 months ago
@14maasomin
The Prophet (saw) also called Abubakr (ra) as his brother. It seems you don't even know the definition of a Sahabi. Imam Ali (as) never opposed those 3 men (ra) but rather he worked with them in their govrnment. Do you know, when Umar (ra) went to liberate palistine, he appointed Ali (ra) as Caliph? If those 3 (ra) were really bad , why Ali (ra) worked with them. If you don't believe our books at least believe yours. These are all also mentioned in your books.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Well i dissagre with you, fatima al zahra didnt come to terms with abu bakr or omar and i dont blame her, they threatened her, hit her and made up their own rules that sons n' daughters of prophets dont inherit, they resemble ahl saud who came up with demonstrations are against sharia. The funny thing is that when it was time to elect a new khalifa after omar he made fraud elections so that All people close to imam Ali couldn't vote for him and rigged it to osmans advantage.
14maasomin 10 months ago
@14maasomin
Dear, it seems you haven't heard the Hadeeths. Fatima (ra) was convinced by Abubakr (ra) about this issue and She became pleased. And please stop your fairly tales about attack on Fatima (ra). This never happened at all. I request to watch this series on youtube: The Unbroken Rib
Even some shia grand ayatolahs like Syed Hussain Fadhlullah, denied this fake incident. Watch it.
The issue of inheritence is even mentioned in your books i.e. Al-Kafi
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Keep on believing that her rib never broke and that muhsin ibn ali never died in fer womb. Just tell me why she was 20 when she died and that she wanted to be buried in secret? The issue of fadak never was resolved and thats why omar ibn al khattabs grandson who was khalif of the ummayad gave fadak back to imam al baqir because he knew abu bakr and omar wronged the most beloved of rasol allah. I don't agree with sayed fadlallah. even doe i knew his opinions quite well.
14maasomin 10 months ago
@14maasomin
Ok, let me ask, why Ali (ra) didn't return Fadak? Do you know what Ali (ra) said:[from shia books]:
“I am ashamed before Allah to overturn something that was prohibited by Abu Bakr and continued by ‘Umar.” (al-Murtada, ash-Shafi fil-Imamah, p. 231; and Ibn Abil Hadid, Sharh Nahj al-Balaghah, vol. 4)
If Fatima (ra) died at the age of 20, it doesn't mean she was killed. Ayazubillah. Regarding the attack on Fatima (ra), there is NO proof, not even in shia books?
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani I will be brief in typing som quotes of fatimat al zahra because or else it will be to much. These words are from nahjul balagha: Ali bury me in the night and do not let those who have been cruel to me attend my funeral. Let not my suffering embitter (anger you) in your life. Second your 4 madhabs in sunni school are not even in line with eachother when it comes to inheritance and you talk about imam alis knowledge about it. Certainly haron inherited from moussa
14maasomin 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani As should fatima have done from the prophet. And you claim prophet dont leave inheritance, then why accept some to leave inheritance but fatima is forbidden to get her sher ? You opress her right as omar and abu bakr did. This is the last time i write because your arguments dont make sence according to me, it's hard talking to a heart that is hardened as yours is. Inshallah you may be more open minded towards shiat Ali in the future. Wa salam o alekiom
14maasomin 10 months ago
@14maasomin
Yes, they had other properties but except Fadak. You didn't answer me. You said "Umar ibn Abdul Aziz returned fadak because he understood that Abubakr(ra) And Umar(ra) was wrong."
Now what about Ali (ra)? When he became the Caliph, why he didn't return Fadak?
It is you who need to be open minded. It is your who believe in these fairy-tales with no authentic evidence. I pray to Allah for your guidance.
Walaikum salam,
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani When imam Ali was caliph it was in his possesion so it was returned to banu hashim again but the property really belonged to fatima al zahra and she had passed away and so the real inheritor couldn't make her claim anymore. Later on the umayads took it from ahlul bayt and then omar abdul aziz returned it again. Very simple and doesn't need much explenation.
14maasomin 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani The reason being me dont want to talk religion with you is that i see you're an angry muslim. When visiting your paige i see you claiming iran was sunni and they were opressed and so on. All your videos is about misscrediting shia. Why dont we claim egypt was ours as it belong to the fatimids and so on? Why don't you uppload videos of shias being slaughterd in the millions in bahrain, saudi, iraq, pakistan, iran and so on? You see now why i called you blind brother?
14maasomin 10 months ago
@14maasomin
No, I am not angry and what I wrote is the reality. The condition of shias in Bahrain, Saudi, Pakistan is 100 times better than the condition of Persian Sunnis who are living in 'Islamic' republic of Iran under the leadership of 'Imam' Khamenae.
Fatimids ONLY ruled Egpyt, egypt was never a shia. Egypt became Muslim during the Caliphate of Amir Al-Muminin Umar bin Khatab (ra), and the Commander who conquered Egypt was Amr ibn Al-as (ra).
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani The baluchi people has it pretty god in baluchistan except for their poverty but many persians are also poor. Second i see you forgott to type in Iraq. How come? The shia who has been slaughtered there is worse than what hitler did to the jews, ordinary people visiting shrines are blown up by fanatics, in bahrain at the moment more than 30 holy places have been destroyed and peple are being tortured and murdered, as in saudi they have on mosque in qatif for half a million?
14maasomin 10 months ago
@14maasomin
You mentioned Iraq. Unfotunately, you are not even awar about whats happening to Iraqi Sunnis. Baghdad used to be a mix city (both shia and Sunni) but now the Sunnis are less than 10%. Who drove them out their houses, killed them and looted their properties and occupied their houses? Who is ruling Iraq?
Please write on youtube search bar: Shia Death Squads
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani im aware of those death squads. But they came as a response to bath, al-qaida, wahabis and other extrimist blowing them up in imam kadhim mosque, imam askari mosque, imam hussein mosque, imam ali mosque and so on. That is an explenation to why these death squads emerged. But the sad thing is that some pople work to divide the ummah and you are a part of it. Instead of praying to allah for understanding you make people get the wrong understanding of the teachings of the shia
14maasomin 10 months ago
@14maasomin
Are you serios? Are they killing Al-Qaeda or Sunni innocent civilians. They killed Sunnis with the names Abubakr and Umar.
Sad thing is you and the shia stab us from behind and then accuse us for dividing the Ummah. You and the shia call for shia-sunni unity but then stab us from behind. You call for shia and sunny unity but drove thousands of Sunnis from their homes in Iraq (esp baghdad).
Don't worry, the time is not far when... Inshallah.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani What a hatred. Allah i fateh aqlak wa qalbak ya rab. I haven't done nothing so don't use the phrase YOU please. Second i'm for unity because the more divided we get the more problems will emerge as well. The time is not far from what i may ask? Listen here, hatred begetts hatred and i aint going to walk on this path, whatever you say wont get me angry because sunnis are my brothers and sisters and inshallah you will stop your desire to divide as well, bi izen illah.
14maasomin 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani If the case is that sunnis has it bad i feel for them from the bottom of my heart. I'm against opression of all mankind for Allah never put religion here so we can opress eachother, he put religion on this earth to learn us ethics in how to behave with our brothers and sisters regardless of etnicity. Are you claiming that the fatimid empire wasn't shia and that the idrisid wasn't shia? Wake up brother don't be so blind, go and read instead of learning from religious madmen!
14maasomin 10 months ago
@14maasomin
The Persian Sunnis who are largest group after the Shia are NOT allowed to build a single mosque in the capital of 'Islamic republic of Iran, ruled by 'Supreme Leader', the one who gives slogans of 'Shia-Sunni Unity'.
When did I say they were never shia? I said Egypt was never a shia country. The Fatimids were Ismaeli Shia and Idirsids were Zaydi shia who ruled morroco.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
In okhonde kafer bayad rozi jawab pas beta az in kofr goyi
AryanNationAFG 10 months ago
may allah swt protect ahl sunnah wa jamaah amen.
farideh1231 11 months ago
@farideh1231
Amin.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 11 months ago
afarin
lanatbarumar 11 months ago
@AMK: So tell me, where did Sunnah go when it doesn't suit you? The Koran is guidance for mankind, there are hidden and revealed meanings in it for those who seek Guidance but what happened to Sunnah? The Prophet made it clear to people who his successor was to be at Ghadeer & there are numerous 'saheeh'' hadeeth about 12 Imams - why would they have to be temporal rulers to qualify for leadership? Was the Prophet not a Prophet before conquest of Makkah?!?
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@AMK: Ulil Amr in Holy Koran refers to those in Aurhority. Not man-made authority as this is destined to fail but authority granted by Allah. Regards sunnah, I'm more than happy to copy paste hadeeth from your saheeh books regards the 12 chieftains/caliphs from Bani Quraysh? You people downplay the role & relevance of any narration that implies authority to the Ahlulbayt - this is against the Koran & Prophets command....
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@Wilayaat
Ulil Amr means a ruler and it is not limited to 12, it does not refer to divinely appointed infallable rulers because the verse clearly states, "if you have dispute on anything refer it to Allah and the Messenger" but it doesn't say "refer it to the Infallable Imam" or "those in authority". Moreover, the people whom you claim to be your Imams, 9 of them never ruled the Muslim Ummah so they never had any authority. How do you deal with this?
AbuMuslimKhorasani 11 months ago
@Wilayaat The fact they are from Quraysh already defeats your argument. 12ers claim that they MUST be a descendant. Had they MUST be, it should of said, twelve from AHL BAYT. Quraysh is a big tribe, and it obviosuly didn't mean that there is ONLY twelve calpihs, because i don't think Hassan (R.A) would of gave the caliphate to Muawiyah (R.A) up if it was only for 12.
BiGaLz007 10 months ago
@AMK: Please stop presuming you know me or guessing whether or not I've studied Islamic history from a 'neutral' source - something you obviously have not done. Your constant denial of Ghadeer & insistence on dragging in fasiqs to "compete" with status of Maula Ali (AS) speaks volumes about your denial of the Truth; recorded by Shia, Sunni & non-Muslim scholars. When did Prophet (S) proclaim anyone else as Maula with audience of tens of thousands?
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@Wilayaat
I never denied Ghadeer. Yes, it is recorded in Sunni sources but it doesn't prove your point. You see, how weak is the whole shia argument i.e. Ghadeer. You can't prove it from Quran and also can't prove it from Sunnah.
You need to read the background of Ghadeer incident to understand.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 11 months ago
@Wilayaat The fact that you are fighting for Ali (R.A) supposed DIVINE right to become the first caliph, more than Ali (R.A) himself even fought for it, in which he authentically didn't even, seems so ridiculous as your supposed love for him.
BiGaLz007 10 months ago
@BiGaLz007
Well said.
When we ask them why Ali (ra) didn't fight for his 'divine' right. They shia say, 'for sake of unity'. So we tell the shia, then why don't you keep quite for sake of unity.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 10 months ago
@AbuMuslimKhorasani Why dont you sunnis keep quite for the sake of unity i may ask in a retro question? I have seen you call us shia rafidite. Who are you to judge? Sunnis invited wahabis to pray with them and have let cancer in to our ummah and because of that ahlul sunna unfortunatly are mixed with wahabis just as jews are mixed with the term zionism. You blow us up in iraq, pakistan, iran. You opress us in jemen, saudi and bahrain. Who is it that deviates from the ummah then i may ask?
14maasomin 10 months ago
@AMK: "Recorded the name & power of Islam" - what are talking about? They were usurpers & chancers. They were AT Ghadeer, saw the Prophet (S) make Maula Ali (A) the successor yet at Saqifa they went against the Prophets (S) edict. And on many other occasions they did the same, all recorded in YOUR 'saheeh' books! Pointless discussing with you, your obsession with painting bad as good stops you from seeing simple truth...
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@Wilayaat
Please read the history of Islam from a neutral source. Don't exploit the beautiful history of Islam with these fabricated and basless stories and fairy tales. The Prophet (SAW) never made anyone as his successor. What is your proof? Calling someone 'Mawla' doesn't mean he is successor. The Prophet (SAW) also said to many other companions as his 'Mawla' so are they too successors of the Prophet (SAW)?
AbuMuslimKhorasani 11 months ago
@AMK: Again with trying to move the goalposts. I asked you to give me specifics post-Saqifa of insult/cursing etc. of sahababa aside from a tiny minority (who are disparaged for good reason). I want names from verified Shia books of repute with names. If someone goes against Allah, Prophet or Ahlulbayt then he or she is no longer worthy of respect...
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@Wilayaat
I provided your own hadith that everyone became apostate, isn't this insult and takfir? These tiny people you are talking were those who recorded the name of Islam, the power of Islam in history. Those tiny people you are talking about were the greatest friends of Ahlulbait (ra).
"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah and those who are with him are strong against unbelievers, but merciful amongst each other" [Quran]
AbuMuslimKhorasani 11 months ago
PS: And I am not judging them or comparing them to me, history has recorded their words & actions. Sadly (and it is genuinely sad) their record is not good but for some inexplicable reason Sunnis want to gloss over these and want us to love & respect usurpers, despots & nepotists....
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@funufana: There is very good reason & precedence (from Quran & Hadeeth) to curse those who usurp rights & violate the Sharia. Tell me, just because a person is selected to be leader by another does that automatically make pious, righteous, beyond reproach? At Ghadeer Maula Ali (A) was made "successor", Umar was amongst those who congratulated him - then what happened at Saqifa & WHY?
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@AMK: Good try but no brownie. Only a handful of sahaba didn't apostate at that time because at Ghadeer thousands congratulated Imam Ali (AS) on becoming "successor" but when the time came they seemed to forget. STILL waiting for proof that Shia speak bad of any sahaba beyond a tiny handful .....
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@Wilayaat
page 36. Abu Jafar (alaihi salam): “People became apostates after prophet (s) except 3 of them”. I said: “Which 3 of them?” He said: Al-Miqdad ibn al-Aswad, Abu Dharr al-Qifari, Salman al-Farisi…. [“Ihtiyar marifatul Rijal” of sheikh Tusi.], [Kafi], etc. (I can give you scan images)
page.40 Abu Jafar said: People apostated except 3 of them: Salman, Abu Dharr and Miqdad. [“Ihtiyar marifatul Rijal” of sheikh Tusi.]
and many many more... I can also show you insults even from Khumeni
AbuMuslimKhorasani 11 months ago
@AMK: Still waiting for proof from established Shia books that aside from a handful of prominent 'sahaba' we have hatred towards the majority of these respectful companions. Let's make it easier; Sunnis say there were over 100,000 sahaba. Shia dislike about 10 of them (for good reason). That's .001%. How on Earth does this equate to blanket hatred!?!?
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@Wilayaat
It seems you are not aware of shia beliefs. Everyone became apostate except 5 or 7. Please ask your local cleric or your shia brothers before commenting.
Thanks,
AbuMuslimKhorasani 11 months ago
@Wilayaat becouse to the sunnis only those matter the most and the rest are important too besides they were the sunnas leaders so why curse to begin with leave them alone if they have sinned they will be punnished by their lord and if not they wont be who are you to curse them and judge them shia must judge them selfs before they judge others who knows where you will end up ahle sunna do not curse any one and respect the ahle buyait so do the same or there will be hatefull division 4 ever
funufana 11 months ago
AMK: Please stop moving the goalposts; of the prominent sahaba the majority apostated at wafa'at of Holy Prophet (S). Prove to me then that sahaba aside from 3 Caliphs, Muawiyah, Talha, Zubair & handful of others are disliked by Shia. Proof by name please, not general comments.
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@AMK: The vast majority of sahaba are either respected by Shia or neutral, how does dislike of a tiny handful (for whom there is good reason to distance from) equate to all-out hatred? It doesn't by any measure. Shia love & respect Hz Abu Dhar, Hz Bilal, Hz Ammar Yasir, Hz Salman al Farsi to name a few.
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@Wilayaat
You are saying the opposite. Why don't you say vast majority of Sahaba are hated by shia except: Hz Abu Dhar, Hz Bilal, Hz Ammar Yasir, Hz Salman al Farsi etc. It is the shia belief that everyone became apostate except the people you mentioned.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 11 months ago
@AMK: These events ALL happened, they're in black & white in books of history from Sunni scholars also, not just Shia writers. It's a filthy myth that Shia hate sahaba: out of tens of thousands of companions & numerous wives of the Prophet (S) how many are we talking about? Less than 10 companions who were in the wrong and ONE wife.
Wilayaat 11 months ago
Abu Bakr usurped rights of Hz Fatima (S). Umar went with mob to Imam Ali's (A) home to force pledge of allegiance. Ayesha INITIATED war against Imam Ali (A). Muawiyah INITIATED war against Imam Ali (A) & cursing from pulpit. He was complicit in poisoning of Imam Hassan (A). Are these the acts of people with great relationships?!?!?
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@Wilayaat
All these claims are falsely explained to shia layman. Your brain was filled with these hateful beliefs from the early. You were brainwashed and taught these hate 'they hated each other', but the Quran says "they were merciful amongst each other". Thats why you can't tolerate to listen one good thing about Sahaba (ra) but only love to hear bad about them. May Allah guide you and me.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 11 months ago
@AMK: The event of Ghadeer was defining moment & clear-cut reason. You don't follow the Ahlulbayt (AS), if you did your fiqh would be from them, not one of the 4 Imams. You don't love them, if you did you would distance yourself from their enemies & usurpers. But you claim to love them so the narration you quote is applicable to you.... t
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@Wilayaat
Dear friend, you have great misconception. We don't love their enemies and usurpers. The people whom you call enemy or usurper were actually the friends of the Ahlulbait (ra). They have great relationship with each other.
AbuMuslimKhorasani 11 months ago
@AMK: Shame on your filthy lies. How on Earth does leading prayers make Abu Bakr most righteous? Was he even close to Imam Ali (AS) in piety? NO. Your Nasibi beliefs sicken me, you deny Ghadeer & status of Ahlulbayt (AS) at every opportunity just to try & lift up your 'heroes'...
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@Wilayaat
I don't deny, the incident of Ghadeer occured. We love Ahlulbayt (ra) and we follow them more than you. We are the true followers of Ahlulbait (ra). You claim to love them but in reality you hate them and they are free of what you attribute to them.
Read what Imam Jafar Sadiq (ra) said:“No one bears us greater hatred than those who claim to love us.” (Abdullâh al-Mâmaqânî, Miqbâs al-Hidâyah vol. 2 p. 414 (Mu'assasat? al-Bayt li-Ihyâ' at-Turâth, Beirut 1991) quoting from Rijâl Kashi)
AbuMuslimKhorasani 11 months ago
@AMK: When it suits you you quote non-Saheeh books, when it doesn't you say 'because it's not in a saheeh book it's not correct'. Tell me, did Allah, Koran, Prophet validate your 'saheeh' books? NO. Back to Ghadeer; well documented , accepted by many Sunni scholars also (Tahir ul Qadri for example) so stop being a Nasibi liar PLEASE.
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@AMK: Many times, the Prophet (a.s.) said about Ali and his followers: By Him, in Whose hand my soul is, this (Ali) and his Shia are certainly the winners on the Day of Resurrection. - Al-Manaqib by Al-Khwarazimi the Hanafite page 62. (PS: Ibn Hajr quote should read page 96 & 159, NOT 59).
Wilayaat 11 months ago
@AMK:The messenger of Allah (a.s.) said to Ali: Are you not pleased that you shall be with me in the Paradise, and al-Hasan, al-Husayn, and our progeny behind our backs, our wives behind our progeny, and our Shia (followers) to our left and right sides? as-Saw'aiq al-Muhriqa by ibn Hajr pg 59. Sunni book by famous anti-Shia scholar, seeing as you're now happy to reject 'saheeh'' books WHEN it suits you.....
Wilayaat 11 months ago