Part 3 of 4 Why I Am Not a Christian - Bertrand Russell

[Mogpiano1]

I wonder what happened to Jesus' customers when he went full time Messiah.

"There he goes The Lord....all repent ye this and go forth that and i'm STILL waiting for my coffee table...."

[macroman52]

The best and most agressive "philospher" of modern Christians is probably W. L. Craig. It is noticiable how Craig argues as though he had never heard of Russell, who seems to refute any argument Craig makes. Of course Craig has heard of Russel so he must choose to ignore him.

[espakor]

Well the 2nd Messiah is Rev. Sun Myung Moon.

[BreaksFast]

The cutting your right hand off verse is often described by christians as metaphorical. Does that mean all that shit after it about hell was a metaphor too? PHEW!

[emeraldthane]

The Moral Problem @ 5:39 which continues on part 4, this is a passage that I have always agreed with. I felt it before I read the essay. It put my feelings in a coherent form.



[neonaction]

I guess i am more loving than God. Because my cat pees everywhere, breaks my stuff, annoys me when i sleep, yet I still wont' make my cat suffer forever like God will. I don't get it, i guess not my fault, it's god's because he made me that way.

[eahazell]

and renting of garments. don't forget the renting of garments..it's good to be a tailor in jesus' time. but not a goat. poor goaty goats. why is jesus having a go at the goats?

[SOSADS]

BR claims he agrees with a great deal of Christ's teachings before attacking Christ's moral character and supposed defects in his teaching. Noticeably he does not balance his brickbat criticisms with bouquet plaudits that might defeat his very theoretical and non-exegetical argument. His suggestion that Christ is profoundly inhumane for believing in eternal punishment, fails to understand Christ's own Jewish context. No one need experience damnation, simply choose Christ as your Lord & Saviour.

[GeauxTiger]

@SOSADS

"No one need experience damnation, simply choose Christ as your Lord & Saviour."

The fact that you guys never seem to see how repugant a suggestion this is never ceases to amaze me. That there is something loving in a relationship that has as its alternative eternal torture...?

As NonStampCollector put it in one of his videos,..

Jesus - "Let me in so that I may protect you."

Guy - "Protect me from what?"

Jesus - "From what I will do to you if you don't let me in..."

[dune1337]

@GeauxTiger So Jesus is in the business of "Protection", you could say. You hit him, they hit you, eh?

[dune1337]

@SOSADS Accept me as your savior or I bust up your shop ey. You need my protection, there are a lot of bad people around these parts.

[kaga13]

@SOSADS What a lovely bribe on Christ's part. 

[Bfdidc]

@SOSADS "Noticeably he does not balance his brickbat criticisms with bouquet plaudits that might defeat his very theoretical and non-exegetical argument."

Is he required to balance his brickbat criticisms with bouquet plaudits, if he dosn't think they are worthy of such?

"His suggestion that Christ is profoundly inhumane for believing in eternal punishment, fails to understand Christ's own Jewish context."

The Jewish Sheol was different from the Christian Hell and not eternal.

[josh1josh1josh1]

@Bfdidc the very fact you ask a question of such means you dont understand..

[MRJerrod410]

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[csdr0]

At 4:02-5:35 Bertrand brought out the "Parousia" problem. Evidently he is uninitiated with biblical idioms, exegesis & hermeneutics. When Christ says he would "come in the clouds" before his generation died he refers not to his second bodily coming predicted by an angel in Acts 1:7-11, but to his exercising his divine prerogative to judge & punish the Jewish Nation through the Romans very much like the expression of God in the OT when he is said to "come in the clouds" to punish a people.

[Longglitteringlashes]

Yes thank you; it is, truly, invigorating to hear a defender of free thought like Russell himself. And I cannot help but agree with shompidomp in whom i recognize a man with qualities similar to this great thinker, rival to the simplistic thinking that plagues our times, a noble mind unafraid of the complex, someone befriended with reflection and rationality.

[Commiton]

Thanks Viper Vision. It's very pleasant to be advantaged this morning in the pleasure of listening to Russel's intellectually stimulating offering of a reasonable course of freedom from the most peculiar and stupidly oriented belief system in question.

[Longglitteringlashes]

Its one thing to counter the God arguments but just criticizing Christians for being bad Christians is not a very bright way of argumenting your own lack of belief in the teachings of the Bible!?

[planetar4564]

I don't know why you got so much negative feedback on your post. You are correct, of course. Russell is an eloquent man. It is a supreme disservice to his argument to use ad hominem attacks to bolster his claims.