The vacuum does pull the gas out of the water faster. Not sure if it produces more gas. Does make the cell boil at a lower temperature. Some vacuum is good, because it will help to hide the fact that there is a leak in the system somewhere, making a constant negative pressure.
Im not sure i understand... It uses the power from your car's battery to generate hydrogen and oxygen(electrolysis). Then what? It feeds the hydrogen into the engine and assists the engine?
Yes, since some alternators are large enough to handle a few extra amps AND gasoline is only ~27% efficient, adding hydrogen can help the gas burn more completely. In any case....it works :)
The heating of the gas doesn't really increase the MPG, it just makes sure everything coming out of the cell is GAS and not liquid. I am getting ~ 44MPG. That is a33% gain. On my Ford Escape, I get 60-80% gain :)
I use an O2/MAP enhancer. No specific voltage output, just need to raise the observed signal from the O2 sensor ~ .1 - .2 volts. Diodes tend to be resistive and that works against what we are trying to do.
You urge me to hurry up and get my cell working well in order to make some testing on my new generation piezoelectric injectors turbodiesel. Well made connections. So important since motor vibrations are very insidious nasty ever presents friends.
How much gas production are you injecting into the intake? If you increase the production by adding another cell(s), do you believe your results will increase?
800ml/min at 20 amps, cold. I run the cell ~ 20 and 26 amps, so maybe a little more gas plus some steam. I don't think there is a huge advantage to adding more cells. The amp draw would be higher than 40A and the addition of Oxygen would just cause the ECU to add gasoline. Instead, I am working on an MAP sensor fix, plus an air intake warmer and O3 generator. These HHO generators are not "PLUG and PLAY" as you are led to believe....unless you do NOT have fuel injection, LOL, and who doesn't.
Kinda funny you say that. I have two vehicals that are carborated. I have not installed any of my devices, as I am still in development of that perfect cell (which will probably never happen) However, I have got awsome results from .002" thick aluminum, but as you know the aluminum doesn't withstand the reaction very well. Today I actually will be getting 316L SS that is .002" thick.. From all of my experiments, it seems if you use thinner material, it has required less energy for same results.?
I thought the same thing...about the thinner plates. However, upon actually measuring the output in cold water at the same amp draw, I found the thicker steel in the form of a pipe was far superior. I am still experimenting with thin flat plates and I'll share my results with you. Aluminum simply turns into Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Aluminum oxide, which is why you see the Aluminum deteriorate. Most metals severely oxidize, which is why SS is used. However, SS is resistive and creates heat :(
Tubular design aids production by "closed column chimney action". Open plate design lacks this. As the bubbles form, they experience "sticktion", which hinders formation of the next bubble, until the current bubble finally breaks free. Could predict increased production from a plate design by closing the open sides, forcing convection to draw more fluid through (see fossilfuel's brick). Also suspect further improvement by pumping fluid through the plates. Food for thought.
So neither of these vehicles use a bubbler. The flash erester is nice but the bubbler helped prevent the generator from exploding.
2drunksracing 3 years ago
No bubbler....no explosion....that is why you must use a flash arrester.
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
The vacuum does pull the gas out of the water faster. Not sure if it produces more gas. Does make the cell boil at a lower temperature. Some vacuum is good, because it will help to hide the fact that there is a leak in the system somewhere, making a constant negative pressure.
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
great videos. i didnt see any video on how you tricked the o2 sensor. can you explain how you did that. thank you
delvis11 3 years ago
I have more videos on that issue. Please see my youtube home page.
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
HI
You mixture is too hot, it is impeding combustion, that with the steam is responsible for your low. Add another chamber to split your voltage.
kdefilip 3 years ago
Good to hear from an expert, lol. Wish you would show your videos proving your points. I am a realist and only believe what I can see.
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
Im not sure i understand... It uses the power from your car's battery to generate hydrogen and oxygen(electrolysis). Then what? It feeds the hydrogen into the engine and assists the engine?
crapkillerz 3 years ago
Yes, since some alternators are large enough to handle a few extra amps AND gasoline is only ~27% efficient, adding hydrogen can help the gas burn more completely. In any case....it works :)
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
Puzzling over the different results in your 2 vehicles. Other than the cells used, are you using identical installation, or are there differences?
What's your current theory of why your Saturn is not getting better mpg?
I have 3 different cars to do and I'm very curious about your findings.
Thanks.
aardvarkinmud 3 years ago
The Saturn got really good MPG to begin with. The Escape...really terrible. I believe this is the reason for the large % gain in the Escape.
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
I'm a bit unclear now where you stand with your mpg's with this cell.
What are your current mpg numbers?
Also, just a thought. Suppose you don't heat the gas in the copper coil and re-test?
aardvarkinmud 3 years ago
The heating of the gas doesn't really increase the MPG, it just makes sure everything coming out of the cell is GAS and not liquid. I am getting ~ 44MPG. That is a33% gain. On my Ford Escape, I get 60-80% gain :)
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
what kind of car is that??? Steering wheel has me guessing Chevy Caprice
eldo59 3 years ago
That is a 97 Saturn SL2.
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
What numbers are for the correction of the oxygen sensor? (voltage),what type of diode did you use?
tolipapa1 3 years ago
I use an O2/MAP enhancer. No specific voltage output, just need to raise the observed signal from the O2 sensor ~ .1 - .2 volts. Diodes tend to be resistive and that works against what we are trying to do.
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
How do you make the flashback arrester?
Rspri303 3 years ago
For detailed instructions, see sirHOAX videos. Just check out his channel and search for the video. Welcome and thanks for asking.
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
You urge me to hurry up and get my cell working well in order to make some testing on my new generation piezoelectric injectors turbodiesel. Well made connections. So important since motor vibrations are very insidious nasty ever presents friends.
Any suggestions for my diesel project?
Thanks Amox
ammanninox 4 years ago
How much gas production are you injecting into the intake? If you increase the production by adding another cell(s), do you believe your results will increase?
risingsunHHO 4 years ago
800ml/min at 20 amps, cold. I run the cell ~ 20 and 26 amps, so maybe a little more gas plus some steam. I don't think there is a huge advantage to adding more cells. The amp draw would be higher than 40A and the addition of Oxygen would just cause the ECU to add gasoline. Instead, I am working on an MAP sensor fix, plus an air intake warmer and O3 generator. These HHO generators are not "PLUG and PLAY" as you are led to believe....unless you do NOT have fuel injection, LOL, and who doesn't.
OriginalUncleNemo 4 years ago
Kinda funny you say that. I have two vehicals that are carborated. I have not installed any of my devices, as I am still in development of that perfect cell (which will probably never happen) However, I have got awsome results from .002" thick aluminum, but as you know the aluminum doesn't withstand the reaction very well. Today I actually will be getting 316L SS that is .002" thick.. From all of my experiments, it seems if you use thinner material, it has required less energy for same results.?
risingsunHHO 4 years ago
I thought the same thing...about the thinner plates. However, upon actually measuring the output in cold water at the same amp draw, I found the thicker steel in the form of a pipe was far superior. I am still experimenting with thin flat plates and I'll share my results with you. Aluminum simply turns into Hydrogen, Oxygen, and Aluminum oxide, which is why you see the Aluminum deteriorate. Most metals severely oxidize, which is why SS is used. However, SS is resistive and creates heat :(
OriginalUncleNemo 4 years ago
I finished my thin plate design check it out let me know what you think..
risingsunHHO 3 years ago
I'll check it now, thanks.
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
Is aluminum Oxide a white gas by any chance?
Kikesurf1 3 years ago
Not a gas. Aluminum oxide is a white powdery material.
OriginalUncleNemo 3 years ago
consider this:
Tubular design aids production by "closed column chimney action". Open plate design lacks this. As the bubbles form, they experience "sticktion", which hinders formation of the next bubble, until the current bubble finally breaks free. Could predict increased production from a plate design by closing the open sides, forcing convection to draw more fluid through (see fossilfuel's brick). Also suspect further improvement by pumping fluid through the plates. Food for thought.
aardvarkinmud 3 years ago
What type of e-lyte do you use? It may have an adverse reaction with the copper (from experience!). Keep an eye on that.
Lefty
Leftwings22 4 years ago
Baking Soda.
OriginalUncleNemo 4 years ago
Great idea with the copper pipe, Good job!
babyella07 4 years ago
so hows the mpg boost or no
waynedavisband 4 years ago
See the first video. It went from ~34 MPG to 40.4 MPG.
OriginalUncleNemo 4 years ago