dude the vikings are not a race or ethnic group!!!! there were vikings from almost 15 countries, from france,russia,byzantine empire,england,denmark and ofcourse scandinavian countires jesus its a professiona; occupation so to speak, and the fighting irish mascot is a mythical figure not a human being!!
Remember too that the Washington Redskins refused to draft any black players and to this day refuse to allow blacks to work in the front office
Their was a slogan when John Riggins was playing for them the quote, Cant No Niggy stop JOhn Riggy!"Redskins fans are particularly offensive and ignorant'
and perpetuate that racist stereotype in social arenas and on the job the DC area is extremely racist anyway im from DC and see it everyday Its the most racist
The word is racist. A term used to describe the blood brought in on the bodies of NA who were killed by bounty hunting colonist. The word squaw came from when the horny Spaniards asked a tribe they came too where the women where? The Indians did not understand so the soldiers pointed to their privates. They replied squaw, "male genitalia!" Yet, squaw has been common term for NA women and educated people know the rest. Racism, reverse racism, stops when we undesensitive ourselves and listen
Memphis is racist, yes. So is the racial slur 'r*dskins'. And did you call me an 'elvis f*ck'? Are you serious? Way to stereotype a whole city by the only thing you probably know about it you idiot. lol
Is there anything else about your town that I SHOULD know? Besides I'm from DC. I know how hard it is for you to be able to change the name of our football team. I'm against Racism as much as you, but some how, all types of people here are Redskin fans. You waistin' your time bama. This is one of the most loyal fan bases. Besides, They didn't name the team that with racial intent. Calm down! People get by. Ask Obama. Racism will always be around! It's not American or White! It's Mankind.
Im not a 'bama'. Thats so DC of you. I do know people from DC, I have family there. And I don't expect you to see past the blinders that any loyal spots 'fan' wears.
You stupid idiot!!! You just insulted him with that Elvis fuck comment. Now you appologize for it. Whats wrong? A mixed up mind. Insult then try to smooth it over!!!
You need some meds for borderline personality disorder. Thank you pensmoke.
The term red-skin has a vile history, and is extremely insulting. It was used by indian hunters, murderers and rapists who used the term to trade Native people for change and it also comes from when indian hunters used to skin native people and wear their skins as if it were animal fur or clothing. Look it up. Does anyone see a Holocaust kids team? Perhaps we can make fun of the Holocaust now as well since they are both very similar except one thing the indians went through it for over 500 years
1. I'm indian never went to college for free nor have I recieved any monies from the government
2. Most tribes dont own casions and the few casinos that are indian owned are in isolated areas and are often unsuccessful
3. American Indians have the highest rate of poverty in the USA
4. Reservations were not "gifts" they were barren land forced on indians with little to no resources, they were basically the crap no one else could survive on
See any teams called the Black skins or the Cleveland NEGROIDS How about the Cleveland CRACKERS or White-backs? Perhaps theres a team mascot with a black person tied to a tree, or perhaps a honky mascot? No there isn't why because all of that is racist period. They don't exist at all, they don't even cross the minds or whites or blacks to create them, yet they creat the redskins or cleveland indians, because they think they are superior and use our suffering and pain to entertain themselves.
The guy below raises an interesting question though: what about the countless high school and college sports teams that use tribe names but don't actively caricature the culture? I suppose it would feel uncomfortable seeing other cultures use one's own cultural symbols, even when it isn't done in a clumsy way. I'm curious what you think about it.
Oh, and i disagree that it would be costly to change the name. None of the fans would change allegiance. Bad argument.
I don't care for any of the names. But R-skin is the worst of them all. Its blatantly hateful and racist. The others need to go too in my opinion but R-skin must go first and foremost.
Have you ever been Red Mesa, Arizona? That's where the high school football team is called the "Redskins." Red Mesa High School is on the Navajo Indian reservation. They are the largest tribe in the U.S.
How come they are using the name if it's so bad? I've also seen many Indian kids on various reservations wearing Washington Redskins jerseys.
Some people, even Natives, are just desensitized to the seriousness of the issue of this racial slur. Some rez Indians don't care because they don't have to deal with white and black Washington "Redskins" fans and their racist hate due to the fact that they live on the rez perhaps.
Baloney. The fact is the word's origins have nothing to do with race. It has to do with the war paint some tribes wore as well as other factors. Some Tndians called themselves Redskins. The chief linguist for the Smithsonian even wrote a paper on this very subject documenting it's Indian origin.
I know the way the word can be used. Do a Google search using "Redskins Smithsonian" as the search words. Read the scholarly piece about the word's origins. The first written use goes back to 1699.
There is alot of things in this society that could be called racist. It is the year 2009 and the problems between the US gov't and the indians was way before my time. I'd say there are bigger issues in the native american communities that if it was me would be way more important than worrying about some symbol who some might find offensive and some who dont.
Tired, broken record logic. Ive heard this one a million times. I think I may have even mentioned it in the video.The issues in Indian country are being dealt with appropriately and when able to be dealt with. And the mascot issue is one of them that is being dealt with.
the redskins logo isn't goofy at all. the famous redskin fan dressed up like an indian chief is a black dude by the way. you say its perffectly fine to make fun of native americans, but last time i checked its perfectly fine to make fun of white people.
why would a bunch of white dudes name the team that they play for a name meant to be offensive and humiliating? you say its ok to make fun of native americans, but last time i checked nobody has a problem with people trashing white people. any white person that thinks fighting irish or vikings is offensive is just a jackass. what is your hobby anyway? why does being a sports fan make you have no life? you could say the same about people that like musicd o they have no life cuz they are fans?
I do not agree and point out the quote you refer to was made at least 100 years ago and is not relavent in the 21st century. Hostile native americans have comitted attrocities and killed and maimed their share of white people who were innocent victims. I also would like to point out that "collecting scalps" is not considered acceptable behavior. In my view the Washington Redskins stand for excellence and do nothing to downgrade native americans.
There is no expiration date on racism. If its racist then its racist now. Are you Native? Collecting scalps was not started by Native people it was started by the English and then Natives and everybody else started doing it. Its funny you said "hostile native americans" because thats exactly how racist whites saw Native people when they wouldnt conform. As "hostiles". Defending yourself is not being "hostile".
Natives should name our Colleges the Rednecks, Honky's, Hillbillies, White Devils, Pedofile Priest or Crackers...No offence to anyone just making a point.
Only stupid and/or uneducated Native Americans would be in favor of the team nickname. Redskins is like the N word and redskins was the name of the cut off skin of dead Native Americans done by bounty hunters and even the US Army. It was a barbaric act. So I say screw the Native Americans that are stupid enough to like the nickname.
Redskin is like the N word and has a terrible history around it. It was the name of the Native American skins that White people cut off of Native Americans for sport and for money. It is a horrible name.
I think you are making this up because no real Native American, that knows their history, would ever think that this word is a good word. Name the tribe please.
You are right about the name but they will never change the name it would cost to much money this franchise is of the highest grossing franchises in the world and money moves politics. I'm sorry it's this way but that's just how it is.
Thanks for making this video. Maybe one day, you could make a rap about it. I really think this "Redskin" name needs to be talked about more and the name should be changed to a better name.
By the way, thank you for sending me your Christian rap videos. I enjoy the messages.
I agree with your views on Redskins, but disagree with your overall point. Do you feel the same way about the Cleveland Indians use of "Indians"? That name was meant to honor a particular player. You also fail to acknowledge the usage of "Fighting Irish" and "Volunteers" and "Cowboys" and "Steelers" and "Packers" all of which are human mascots. No one is offended, they are honored. Redskins is a derogatory term, but other names used can be proud ones.
Count me as an Native American that is not offended that the Cleveland Indians honor a great outfielder with their name. Redskins is a different matter.
You didnt go to the link I posted on your profile. The story about them naming the team to "honor" Sockalexis is a myth. Its fictional. I don't see how a big goofy looking grinning caricature like "Chief Wahoo" is supposed to be an honor to anyone.
Someone checked newspapers around the time & couldn't find a mention of it. That is hardly proof it is fictional. It had long been the explanation for the name, long before we started complaining about it. Now complaining about Chief Wahoo is a completely different thing. It has nothing to do with the Indians name. If you don't like grinning, make him be that sourfaced representation that is always made of us in TV commercials. I'm not sure that's better.
dude the vikings are not a race or ethnic group!!!! there were vikings from almost 15 countries, from france,russia,byzantine empire,england,denmark and ofcourse scandinavian countires jesus its a professiona; occupation so to speak, and the fighting irish mascot is a mythical figure not a human being!!
lion3p0 1 year ago
Remember too that the Washington Redskins refused to draft any black players and to this day refuse to allow blacks to work in the front office
Their was a slogan when John Riggins was playing for them the quote, Cant No Niggy stop JOhn Riggy!"Redskins fans are particularly offensive and ignorant'
and perpetuate that racist stereotype in social arenas and on the job the DC area is extremely racist anyway im from DC and see it everyday Its the most racist
region in the union DC Md Va ~!
InfinityNebula 1 year ago
The word is racist. A term used to describe the blood brought in on the bodies of NA who were killed by bounty hunting colonist. The word squaw came from when the horny Spaniards asked a tribe they came too where the women where? The Indians did not understand so the soldiers pointed to their privates. They replied squaw, "male genitalia!" Yet, squaw has been common term for NA women and educated people know the rest. Racism, reverse racism, stops when we undesensitive ourselves and listen
aniyuntik7 2 years ago
The City of Memphis is a lot more racist than the Washington Redskins will ever be! You Elvis fuck!
jrbrewsky 2 years ago
Memphis is racist, yes. So is the racial slur 'r*dskins'. And did you call me an 'elvis f*ck'? Are you serious? Way to stereotype a whole city by the only thing you probably know about it you idiot. lol
pensmoke 2 years ago
Is there anything else about your town that I SHOULD know? Besides I'm from DC. I know how hard it is for you to be able to change the name of our football team. I'm against Racism as much as you, but some how, all types of people here are Redskin fans. You waistin' your time bama. This is one of the most loyal fan bases. Besides, They didn't name the team that with racial intent. Calm down! People get by. Ask Obama. Racism will always be around! It's not American or White! It's Mankind.
jrbrewsky 2 years ago
Im not a 'bama'. Thats so DC of you. I do know people from DC, I have family there. And I don't expect you to see past the blinders that any loyal spots 'fan' wears.
pensmoke 2 years ago
I'm justin saying, I don't meen to affend you.
jrbrewsky 2 years ago
You stupid idiot!!! You just insulted him with that Elvis fuck comment. Now you appologize for it. Whats wrong? A mixed up mind. Insult then try to smooth it over!!!
You need some meds for borderline personality disorder. Thank you pensmoke.
aniyuntik7 2 years ago
The name of the Redskins is not used with racial intent.
There's also several survey's to suggest that the vast majority of Native Americans do not find the name offensive.
badgerwhacker 2 years ago
Like I said before. Read the way its used in the "more info" section to the right of this video. Get educated on this word.
pensmoke 2 years ago
There is no need to get "educated" on this word. Everyone knows it was used with racial intent in the past but it's the present that matters.
It's lucky we live in a word where by the majority of people do not associate Redskin by being a derogatory term.
badgerwhacker 2 years ago
The comments in the more info section were made by people recently. And they are used with 'racial intent'. Try again.
pensmoke 2 years ago
Good points.
gingram08 2 years ago
The term red-skin has a vile history, and is extremely insulting. It was used by indian hunters, murderers and rapists who used the term to trade Native people for change and it also comes from when indian hunters used to skin native people and wear their skins as if it were animal fur or clothing. Look it up. Does anyone see a Holocaust kids team? Perhaps we can make fun of the Holocaust now as well since they are both very similar except one thing the indians went through it for over 500 years
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
1. I'm indian never went to college for free nor have I recieved any monies from the government
2. Most tribes dont own casions and the few casinos that are indian owned are in isolated areas and are often unsuccessful
3. American Indians have the highest rate of poverty in the USA
4. Reservations were not "gifts" they were barren land forced on indians with little to no resources, they were basically the crap no one else could survive on
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
See any teams called the Black skins or the Cleveland NEGROIDS How about the Cleveland CRACKERS or White-backs? Perhaps theres a team mascot with a black person tied to a tree, or perhaps a honky mascot? No there isn't why because all of that is racist period. They don't exist at all, they don't even cross the minds or whites or blacks to create them, yet they creat the redskins or cleveland indians, because they think they are superior and use our suffering and pain to entertain themselves.
Soulsareintheeyes 2 years ago
Yeah, it's a disgusting name.
The guy below raises an interesting question though: what about the countless high school and college sports teams that use tribe names but don't actively caricature the culture? I suppose it would feel uncomfortable seeing other cultures use one's own cultural symbols, even when it isn't done in a clumsy way. I'm curious what you think about it.
Oh, and i disagree that it would be costly to change the name. None of the fans would change allegiance. Bad argument.
thedudeoflife2000 2 years ago
I don't care for any of the names. But R-skin is the worst of them all. Its blatantly hateful and racist. The others need to go too in my opinion but R-skin must go first and foremost.
pensmoke 2 years ago
Have you ever been Red Mesa, Arizona? That's where the high school football team is called the "Redskins." Red Mesa High School is on the Navajo Indian reservation. They are the largest tribe in the U.S.
How come they are using the name if it's so bad? I've also seen many Indian kids on various reservations wearing Washington Redskins jerseys.
chekist1917 2 years ago
Some people, even Natives, are just desensitized to the seriousness of the issue of this racial slur. Some rez Indians don't care because they don't have to deal with white and black Washington "Redskins" fans and their racist hate due to the fact that they live on the rez perhaps.
pensmoke 2 years ago
Baloney. The fact is the word's origins have nothing to do with race. It has to do with the war paint some tribes wore as well as other factors. Some Tndians called themselves Redskins. The chief linguist for the Smithsonian even wrote a paper on this very subject documenting it's Indian origin.
chekist1917 2 years ago
I suggest you read under the 'more info' section of this video and see the way the word is used.
pensmoke 2 years ago
I know the way the word can be used. Do a Google search using "Redskins Smithsonian" as the search words. Read the scholarly piece about the word's origins. The first written use goes back to 1699.
chekist1917 2 years ago
Im not trying to argue with you man. I know what the word is used for and what it means today.
pensmoke 2 years ago
i agree with you. had this been something racist against whites they would have changed it.
And i do hate when people dress as us.
Darkmessenger1000 2 years ago
Thats nice. Good for you.
pensmoke 2 years ago
Excellent video! Message needs to be said as many times as necessary.
LithodidMan 2 years ago
Absolutely, thanks for watching. :)
pensmoke 2 years ago
Good video and message.
jsmith19091 2 years ago
Thank you. Thanks for watching.
pensmoke 2 years ago
hipocrit
ONESHOT182 2 years ago
Its spelled "hypocrite". And you need to tell me how I am being one.
pensmoke 2 years ago
There is alot of things in this society that could be called racist. It is the year 2009 and the problems between the US gov't and the indians was way before my time. I'd say there are bigger issues in the native american communities that if it was me would be way more important than worrying about some symbol who some might find offensive and some who dont.
vaoutlaws22193 2 years ago
Tired, broken record logic. Ive heard this one a million times. I think I may have even mentioned it in the video.The issues in Indian country are being dealt with appropriately and when able to be dealt with. And the mascot issue is one of them that is being dealt with.
pensmoke 2 years ago
the redskins logo isn't goofy at all. the famous redskin fan dressed up like an indian chief is a black dude by the way. you say its perffectly fine to make fun of native americans, but last time i checked its perfectly fine to make fun of white people.
FlamingCannibal 2 years ago
why would a bunch of white dudes name the team that they play for a name meant to be offensive and humiliating? you say its ok to make fun of native americans, but last time i checked nobody has a problem with people trashing white people. any white person that thinks fighting irish or vikings is offensive is just a jackass. what is your hobby anyway? why does being a sports fan make you have no life? you could say the same about people that like musicd o they have no life cuz they are fans?
FlamingCannibal 2 years ago
I do not agree and point out the quote you refer to was made at least 100 years ago and is not relavent in the 21st century. Hostile native americans have comitted attrocities and killed and maimed their share of white people who were innocent victims. I also would like to point out that "collecting scalps" is not considered acceptable behavior. In my view the Washington Redskins stand for excellence and do nothing to downgrade native americans.
wilkins1936 2 years ago
There is no expiration date on racism. If its racist then its racist now. Are you Native? Collecting scalps was not started by Native people it was started by the English and then Natives and everybody else started doing it. Its funny you said "hostile native americans" because thats exactly how racist whites saw Native people when they wouldnt conform. As "hostiles". Defending yourself is not being "hostile".
pensmoke 2 years ago
I tell you what maybe you guys should have done something to before the name was trademarked. You had your chance.
vaoutlaws22193 2 years ago
It is never too late to change the hearts and minds of the people to make change.
nojima2007 2 years ago
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LJM331 2 years ago
Natives should name our Colleges the Rednecks, Honky's, Hillbillies, White Devils, Pedofile Priest or Crackers...No offence to anyone just making a point.
LJM331 2 years ago
Only stupid and/or uneducated Native Americans would be in favor of the team nickname. Redskins is like the N word and redskins was the name of the cut off skin of dead Native Americans done by bounty hunters and even the US Army. It was a barbaric act. So I say screw the Native Americans that are stupid enough to like the nickname.
jamesr3333 2 years ago
Redskin is like the N word and has a terrible history around it. It was the name of the Native American skins that White people cut off of Native Americans for sport and for money. It is a horrible name.
I think you are making this up because no real Native American, that knows their history, would ever think that this word is a good word. Name the tribe please.
johns9889 2 years ago
"Local Tribes"? In D.C.?
Name these so called "local tribes" in D.C.
pensmoke 2 years ago
I agree with you. The name Redskin sucks.
kungpau54 2 years ago
You are right about the name but they will never change the name it would cost to much money this franchise is of the highest grossing franchises in the world and money moves politics. I'm sorry it's this way but that's just how it is.
Jeffb32 2 years ago
Thanks for making this video. Maybe one day, you could make a rap about it. I really think this "Redskin" name needs to be talked about more and the name should be changed to a better name.
By the way, thank you for sending me your Christian rap videos. I enjoy the messages.
munden1971 2 years ago
Absolutley man and thanks to YOU for watching and showing your support. God bless bro.
pensmoke 2 years ago
I Agree W/ most of it, We've always been misrepresented/Mistreated in every area of the media/Everything else , Good Video.
check out "Komplex Kai About The Rez"
komplexkai2009 2 years ago
I agree with your views on Redskins, but disagree with your overall point. Do you feel the same way about the Cleveland Indians use of "Indians"? That name was meant to honor a particular player. You also fail to acknowledge the usage of "Fighting Irish" and "Volunteers" and "Cowboys" and "Steelers" and "Packers" all of which are human mascots. No one is offended, they are honored. Redskins is a derogatory term, but other names used can be proud ones.
I am Cherokee and my wife is Chickasaw.
Matur1n 2 years ago
You said: You also fail to acknowledge the usage of "Fighting Irish"
This shows me that you didnt watch the whole video. I did address that subject. Watch the whole video then we can talk on this further.
pensmoke 2 years ago
Count me as an Native American that is not offended that the Cleveland Indians honor a great outfielder with their name. Redskins is a different matter.
Matur1n 2 years ago
You didnt go to the link I posted on your profile. The story about them naming the team to "honor" Sockalexis is a myth. Its fictional. I don't see how a big goofy looking grinning caricature like "Chief Wahoo" is supposed to be an honor to anyone.
pensmoke 2 years ago
"Sockalexis is a myth.Its fictional"
Someone checked newspapers around the time & couldn't find a mention of it. That is hardly proof it is fictional. It had long been the explanation for the name, long before we started complaining about it. Now complaining about Chief Wahoo is a completely different thing. It has nothing to do with the Indians name. If you don't like grinning, make him be that sourfaced representation that is always made of us in TV commercials. I'm not sure that's better.
Matur1n 2 years ago
Well put.
VeritasLiber 2 years ago
Thanks.
pensmoke 2 years ago
Nice video. America has always had a double standard. I'm glad you brought up these topics. Critical thinking in America is becoming endangered.
lorenzo8500 2 years ago
Thank you.
pensmoke 2 years ago