"We can't expect the American people to jump from capitalism to Communism but we can assist their leaders by giving them small amounts of Socialism until they awaken one day to find out they have Communism." - Nikita Krushchev
A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away. -Barry Goldwater
lol, according to that, then most of europe is heading to comunism, lol.
Please, Ton Blair is a socialist, but i didn't see the U.K turn "Red" when he was in office. The key form of socialism is helping the poor, the needy and sick, by giving back to the people.
I'm not saying it's that best system, but they had some great ideas.
The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.
I don't think you are lying, you just don't know better, Facism IS a form of Socialism it is only to the right with respect to Marixist-Leninism.
LOL everything is for the military or rather the means of power of the ruling aparatchiki where the State has power over the citizenry. To that degree that the State Controls the populaiton it is the degree it has traveled along the Socialist path,
Since you know so much about the USSR, tell me what is YOUR favourite restaraunt in St Petrsburg?
Facism is "all for the State" and infringes upon individual rights in the process. Socialism is "all for the Collective" and infringes upon individual rights in the process. THEY ARE BOTH LIBERAL PHILOSOPHIES.
A Conservative values the rights of the individual.
conservative values are just to kept things the same, they can careless about gays, blacks, immigrants and any other groups that will change the way things are.
hitlar hated liberal, he viewed them as "jewish inventions". the only group that stood against him were the social democrates
First off - in order to be taken as credible - I would suggest you work on your spelling, punctuation and capitalization.
Conservative values are NOT "just to kept (sic) things the same" - they are to preserve the rights of the individuals against the collective whims of The State.
Hitler (as opposed to Hitlar) hated Jewish people not because Jewish people were liberal, but because Hitler (as opposed to Hitlar) was a hate driven lunatic.
I'm not going to waste my time spell cheacking for some retarded fox news viewer.
hitler was apart of the national socialist party ,but saying that it was socialist is like saying libertarians are liberal, but the democratic socialist oposed him and their the same party that has been more progresssive with human rights, they abolish the death penalty unlike your conservative values.
Where in any of my posts have I ever said I am Conservative? Fox News?
Why don't you take a moment and educate yourself? Look at the 1920 NAZI platform, and you will see that it is a very Socialist agenda - one that is interjected with vitriol for non-Germans - but is concerned with the "good of all Germans" as its main thread (national health care, national pensions, national education etc.) at the expense of human rights.
I am not comparing Nazism to liberalism, just stating some facts.
As a rule of thumb, the larger a government needs to be in order to carry out its mission of governance, the more liveral the government's philosophy is.
Facism (and its huge State presence), Communism and Socialism (with their huge bureacracies) = Liberal forms of government.
Also - If a government is generally hostile to Capiltalism (Facists, Socialists, Communists, Marxists, Leninists, Stalinists, Bolsheviks) - again - Liberal.
The Soviet Union, it's satellite states, North Korea, Vietnam, Cuba and China are all communism applied to reality. Whatever the grand theories claim, the true colors shows when practiced.
So there's a difference between fascism and communism? Ok, the fundamental principles and essentials are as follows: fascism - the individual must submit to the state, communism - the individual must submit to the working class, nazism - the individual must submit to the master race.
yup, but the Nazi allowed those who were viewed "human" to run business and factories such as BMW and Volkswagen were privately owned.
If you actuarial read Karl Marx view on communism, and the communism of the soviet union, you would be shocked on how different it is.
I was referring to democratic socialism. The ideology that was popular in France and Sweden. See socialism is not one single theory, just like democracy their are leftest and rightest and centralist.
I thing socialism works best when it's in collective industry such as logging, farming and mining.
but allow industry such as the furniture or auto mobiles be run privately,
That why you can almost grant a steady out put of material goods, that will allow privet business the ability to compete with the goods, so it prevents outsourcing as well as good competition.
Well. The Soviets tried collective farming in Ukraine. At the time Ukraine had the best land for agriculture in the world. The soil there had the potential to produce food for all people on the entire planet. But no managed to screw that up. Because collective ownership means everyone takes what they can get their hands on and noone takes responsability. Socialism is an economic fog, cause theres no price mechanism like supply & demand, so true costs are hidden = economic chaos!
That's because they lacked innovation, if we turn make every massive farm, the a single unit and competes against the other public farms.. Those who produce more will get bonus, those who produce low will get penalties.
If it's government run, we can make sure the farmers aren't using chemicals or force feeding animals to get a head. Plus it proved employment to the uneducated, will not impacting those who are.
Yes, they lacked innovation, but the main reason was that without a price mechanism there is no way to find out the actual costs! Without private ownership there is no incentive to produce effectively. The ONLY thing a government can do "for" (to) the economy is to leave it alone or destroy it. If it's government run it requires taxation which destroys other business' as well.
but that just leads to problems, CEO's can control the prices and market them to what ever sets their stockholders. Free market sounds great on paper, but everyone wants to gain control of the market.
No, they can't, because if they try to raise prices the competitors sees opportunity and offers their products to a lower price. If the guy raising prices tries to buy his competitors, he will run out of money. The ONLY way to get a monopoly and raise prices is if the government grants favors, and that is not capitalism; economy separated from the state.
What you claim is a problem can never happen on a free capitalist market. And it never has happened. :)
no, true. Many busness can buy into banks or loan sharks to control who give's and equal cut. The govement is the best way to reulate the market and make sure worker rights aren't violated
I don't understand your second sentence ("Many..."). What do you mean?
There is no such thing as "worker rights". There are only individual rights, and that includes all human beings. No group or individual has any "special rights". When the government allows "special rights" to certain groups it creates problems. By giving political power to the unions the government has created unemployment.
I recommend Henry Hazlitts excellent book: Economics in One Lesson.
Henry Hazlitts? the guy just understand the basic of economics he makes the same mistake as Karl Marx. He believes that humanity thinks in one certain way. That we want to buy things, that we want be materialistic.
please, Civil liberties is a must! without government regulation their is no environmental protection, no compensation to workers and business.
Hazlitt goes through the most common economic fallacies and he doesnt make any mistake like Marx. Division of labour means specialization; greater production; more wealth. So yeah, we want to buy things. I buy food and clothes. You don't want food? We need things to survive and live good lives. The alternative is death. There would be environmental protection. If you own a piece of land you make something of it, you don't destroy it.
Between 1860 and 1890 american workers saw real wages raise with 50%. And only 3% were members of any union. So what do you mean "no compensation to workers" without government _regulation_? There must be law, naturally. But not regulation. That's something else.
I see you don't understand american history the us went into a ecconmic depresion , ecconmy stoped and no one was spending money. So the value of the dollar went up while unemployment skyrocketed. They weren't payed more, if anything they were payed less
No me gusta :L no comico.
TheAmazingRusski 4 months ago
bueno
leosbeljimenez 1 year ago
This is a Scene from Tim and Struppi Comic ! What is this for a Program ?
HipHopNobby 1 year ago
The most stupid think I've ever seen
Have you ever been to Russia?
PittsTheGreat 1 year ago
there is nothing wrong with communism or socialism, what's wrong lies within people. their greed and corruption is what drives everything downhill
johnl5r3w 2 years ago
Then the Radient Future will have to wait until People become Perfected, because until such time it is fataly flawed and Oppressive
kentuckydan 2 years ago
LOL i like these
BlackNeon9 2 years ago
This is one of the many facts socialists/communists hope we'll forget!
Talleyrand8230 3 years ago
to bad you don't know the difference between a socialist or a communists system.
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
"We can't expect the American people to jump from capitalism to Communism but we can assist their leaders by giving them small amounts of Socialism until they awaken one day to find out they have Communism." - Nikita Krushchev
A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away. -Barry Goldwater
Too bad you don't know your history!
Talleyrand8230 2 years ago
lol, according to that, then most of europe is heading to comunism, lol.
Please, Ton Blair is a socialist, but i didn't see the U.K turn "Red" when he was in office. The key form of socialism is helping the poor, the needy and sick, by giving back to the people.
I'm not saying it's that best system, but they had some great ideas.
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
The State is to care for the elevating national health by protecting the mother and child, by outlawing child-labor, by the encouragement of physical fitness, by means of the legal establishment of a gymnastic and sport obligation, by the utmost support of all organizations concerned with the physical instruction of the young.
kentuckydan 2 years ago
i don't really like russian food, no offense ,but i did like the holiday inn when i went to visit.
i'm just saying if we can use the best of both worlds we could have a pretty good system.
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
Hell no.
mrtvi46 2 years ago
too bad you have never been to the Former Soviet Union and listened to someone talk about how they lived under
Socialsim, their exact words not mine,\
Now who should know more about the subject? Them or you?
kentuckydan 2 years ago
Let's see those Great Ideas resulted in the extermination of over 100 Million in the 20th century the Marxists made the Nazis look like boyscouts
By the way Facism is another form of Socialism
kentuckydan 2 years ago
something tells me that your lying,
the former soviet union was a corrupt form of communism and facism is not socialism, you have to be an idoit for think like that.
in facism everything is for the millitary and socialism everything is for the people.
so i guess the ideas of education, heath care and public serves to the public are bad ideas...
you want us to be afraid of new ideas beacuse they scare you , so you use the nazis to scare us, (even though they were conservative)
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
I don't think you are lying, you just don't know better, Facism IS a form of Socialism it is only to the right with respect to Marixist-Leninism.
LOL everything is for the military or rather the means of power of the ruling aparatchiki where the State has power over the citizenry. To that degree that the State Controls the populaiton it is the degree it has traveled along the Socialist path,
Since you know so much about the USSR, tell me what is YOUR favourite restaraunt in St Petrsburg?
kentuckydan 2 years ago 2
Sorry snowwolf7777 but you're not even close.
Facism is "all for the State" and infringes upon individual rights in the process. Socialism is "all for the Collective" and infringes upon individual rights in the process. THEY ARE BOTH LIBERAL PHILOSOPHIES.
A Conservative values the rights of the individual.
KingXerexs 2 years ago
lol! that's a joke
conservative values are just to kept things the same, they can careless about gays, blacks, immigrants and any other groups that will change the way things are.
hitlar hated liberal, he viewed them as "jewish inventions". the only group that stood against him were the social democrates
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
First off - in order to be taken as credible - I would suggest you work on your spelling, punctuation and capitalization.
Conservative values are NOT "just to kept (sic) things the same" - they are to preserve the rights of the individuals against the collective whims of The State.
Hitler (as opposed to Hitlar) hated Jewish people not because Jewish people were liberal, but because Hitler (as opposed to Hitlar) was a hate driven lunatic.
National SOCIALIST Party = NAZI.
Get a clue.
KingXerexs 2 years ago
I'm not going to waste my time spell cheacking for some retarded fox news viewer.
hitler was apart of the national socialist party ,but saying that it was socialist is like saying libertarians are liberal, but the democratic socialist oposed him and their the same party that has been more progresssive with human rights, they abolish the death penalty unlike your conservative values.
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
Where in any of my posts have I ever said I am Conservative? Fox News?
Why don't you take a moment and educate yourself? Look at the 1920 NAZI platform, and you will see that it is a very Socialist agenda - one that is interjected with vitriol for non-Germans - but is concerned with the "good of all Germans" as its main thread (national health care, national pensions, national education etc.) at the expense of human rights.
I am not comparing Nazism to liberalism, just stating some facts.
KingXerexs 2 years ago 2
One more thing before I go today:
As a rule of thumb, the larger a government needs to be in order to carry out its mission of governance, the more liveral the government's philosophy is.
Facism (and its huge State presence), Communism and Socialism (with their huge bureacracies) = Liberal forms of government.
Also - If a government is generally hostile to Capiltalism (Facists, Socialists, Communists, Marxists, Leninists, Stalinists, Bolsheviks) - again - Liberal.
KingXerexs 2 years ago 2
The Soviet Union, it's satellite states, North Korea, Vietnam, Cuba and China are all communism applied to reality. Whatever the grand theories claim, the true colors shows when practiced.
So there's a difference between fascism and communism? Ok, the fundamental principles and essentials are as follows: fascism - the individual must submit to the state, communism - the individual must submit to the working class, nazism - the individual must submit to the master race.
mrtvi46 2 years ago
yup, but the Nazi allowed those who were viewed "human" to run business and factories such as BMW and Volkswagen were privately owned.
If you actuarial read Karl Marx view on communism, and the communism of the soviet union, you would be shocked on how different it is.
I was referring to democratic socialism. The ideology that was popular in France and Sweden. See socialism is not one single theory, just like democracy their are leftest and rightest and centralist.
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
The nazi government ran those factories in practice. The business leaders were in fact puppets asked to "run" the factories or die.
The _essentials_ are the same. Individual submission to the collective to serve a "higher" purpose.
Well, I live in Sweden and the socialized part of the economy is always being debated because it's a train wreck.
mrtvi46 2 years ago
really, i used to live in Norway
I thing socialism works best when it's in collective industry such as logging, farming and mining.
but allow industry such as the furniture or auto mobiles be run privately,
That why you can almost grant a steady out put of material goods, that will allow privet business the ability to compete with the goods, so it prevents outsourcing as well as good competition.
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
Well. The Soviets tried collective farming in Ukraine. At the time Ukraine had the best land for agriculture in the world. The soil there had the potential to produce food for all people on the entire planet. But no managed to screw that up. Because collective ownership means everyone takes what they can get their hands on and noone takes responsability. Socialism is an economic fog, cause theres no price mechanism like supply & demand, so true costs are hidden = economic chaos!
mrtvi46 2 years ago
That's because they lacked innovation, if we turn make every massive farm, the a single unit and competes against the other public farms.. Those who produce more will get bonus, those who produce low will get penalties.
If it's government run, we can make sure the farmers aren't using chemicals or force feeding animals to get a head. Plus it proved employment to the uneducated, will not impacting those who are.
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
Yes, they lacked innovation, but the main reason was that without a price mechanism there is no way to find out the actual costs! Without private ownership there is no incentive to produce effectively. The ONLY thing a government can do "for" (to) the economy is to leave it alone or destroy it. If it's government run it requires taxation which destroys other business' as well.
mrtvi46 2 years ago
but that just leads to problems, CEO's can control the prices and market them to what ever sets their stockholders. Free market sounds great on paper, but everyone wants to gain control of the market.
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
No, they can't, because if they try to raise prices the competitors sees opportunity and offers their products to a lower price. If the guy raising prices tries to buy his competitors, he will run out of money. The ONLY way to get a monopoly and raise prices is if the government grants favors, and that is not capitalism; economy separated from the state.
What you claim is a problem can never happen on a free capitalist market. And it never has happened. :)
mrtvi46 2 years ago
no, true. Many busness can buy into banks or loan sharks to control who give's and equal cut. The govement is the best way to reulate the market and make sure worker rights aren't violated
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
I don't understand your second sentence ("Many..."). What do you mean?
There is no such thing as "worker rights". There are only individual rights, and that includes all human beings. No group or individual has any "special rights". When the government allows "special rights" to certain groups it creates problems. By giving political power to the unions the government has created unemployment.
I recommend Henry Hazlitts excellent book: Economics in One Lesson.
mrtvi46 2 years ago
Henry Hazlitts? the guy just understand the basic of economics he makes the same mistake as Karl Marx. He believes that humanity thinks in one certain way. That we want to buy things, that we want be materialistic.
please, Civil liberties is a must! without government regulation their is no environmental protection, no compensation to workers and business.
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
Hazlitt goes through the most common economic fallacies and he doesnt make any mistake like Marx. Division of labour means specialization; greater production; more wealth. So yeah, we want to buy things. I buy food and clothes. You don't want food? We need things to survive and live good lives. The alternative is death. There would be environmental protection. If you own a piece of land you make something of it, you don't destroy it.
mrtvi46 2 years ago
Between 1860 and 1890 american workers saw real wages raise with 50%. And only 3% were members of any union. So what do you mean "no compensation to workers" without government _regulation_? There must be law, naturally. But not regulation. That's something else.
mrtvi46 2 years ago
I see you don't understand american history the us went into a ecconmic depresion , ecconmy stoped and no one was spending money. So the value of the dollar went up while unemployment skyrocketed. They weren't payed more, if anything they were payed less
snowwolf7777 2 years ago
@snowwolf7777
But why weren't people spending money?
lipovan87 1 year ago
@lipovan87 no one had money to spend,
snowwolf7777 1 year ago
where i can find this documentari pls tekll mee
iliestefan92 3 years ago
LOL!!
Huneiyue 3 years ago
That is the most awesome factory I have ever seen.
godlesstechnocrat 4 years ago