People tend to forget that Akram and Marshall and Lillee all had batsman on their teams they could depend on to give them runs to bowl to, which relieved the pressure they had on them NOT to concede runs while they were hunting wickets - they didnt HAVE to be economical as strike bowlers. Hadlee knew the NZ batting lineup was more likely to collapse than produce a big score, so he was ALWAYS under pressure in any inning to take as many wickets for as few runs as possible.
@LordCholmondeleyWank That's a fair point. But folks like Marshall and Imran have performed brilliantly on dead sub-continent pitches and I'm sure that's a point to consider as well. See my list below and tell us what you think.
@Imrankniazi Interesting selection there. Marshall could be extremely loose at times though lethal. I though Holding and Garner were technically better bowlers. I like your inclusion of Imran wonderful bowler. I think that you can't beat the great all rounders of the 80's.
1) Hadlee
2) Botham
3) Khan
4) Dev
5) ?
Where these guys were so good was that they could also bat down the order. I think Lillee, McGrath and Ambrose while awesome kinda straight jacket a team strategically.
@ImeldaDavies I think Kapil, Imran and Botham could bat at any position, not just lower down the order. Hadlee, although an explosive batsman, had his technical shortcomings.Come to think of it, a great all-rounder just played 7 tests due to non-cricketing reasons or could have been rubbing shoulders with the best of them - Mike Procter!
@ImeldaDavies Procter was rated by many to be a top-notch player. His first-class record (county was really competitive those days) is beyond awesome. All international players of the 70s faced him and they reckon he was in the league of Botham and Imran as all-rounders. I mean ahead of Kapil and Hadlee but slightly behind Sir Gary.
I never saw him but have read a lot about him. Who knows what they could have achieved in Tests had G. Pollock, Barry Richards or Procter not been undone by fate?
Sorry PEOPLE, do not judge me. But it seems you only have access to Australian, NZ, or WI channel. Whoever think of anyone else other than WASIM AKRAM do not know anything of cricket. the guy is a MAGICIAN. FORGET the swinging reverse swing yorkers. he can even bowl a reverse swing bouncer. and Everyone use his bowling style to teach young bowlers. A bowling WIZARD OF ALL TIME.
I remember watching this as a proud Kiwi school kid back in Wellington, well deserved along with recent the recent ICC Hall of Fame induction Sir Richard.
I was a kid as well at the time and this was the best bowling performance I'd ever seen. I can't remember too many better. Even as an Aussie I thought Hadlee was the man. While were at it Danny Morrison was very underrated.
Agreed - what a cricketer! He was a far better bowler than Botham, Kapil or Imran though they were all better batsman
The man is a legend - I always disagree with my friend who says the great Marshall was better. He was faster and played in a better team than SRH though didn't have the range of armoury SRL had.
sorry, meant McGraths game wouldn't have worked without pressure. No offence to McGrath fans as he's my favourite Australian bowler I just think we need to put averages in context, ie teams, eras etc.
Someone below has made a good point below about RJH doing it on his own. Hadlee did have Chatfield who denied runs. He also came back from a fairly weak career start. But overall, he NZ team didn't win that many games and Hadlee was essentially doing it alone with no backup and no pressure like a McGrath whoes team were dominant and had depth. McGraths game/line wouldn't have worked with team pressure. Fot the same reason I rate Lara above all, his team sucked the most,but he stood up tall.
I think there is a bit more to it than that for the NZ team of the 80's. While it wasnt spectacular, it remained unbeaten against all comers (including a series win against the mighty windies) for 10 years.
Also keep in mind that NZ, being the minnow of test nations, was never given the opportunities that the big countries were given for test rubbers. Its a crime that a player of Hadlee's genius only played 70 test matches. NZ when on tour would be lucky to get a three match series.
fuck off r-tard. your comments dont even make sense in relation to mine and in addition your comments are obvious and recycled rhetoric. ive also had three or four ocassions to chat to the great man himself about his career. trust me, he did most of it alone in the bowling department.
Not quite so sure what you are getting all defensive over? I was merely commenting on the fact that even though NZ was a one horse team (thus agreeing with you), it still remained unbeaten at home during the 80's. Nothing I said contradicted anything you said.
though i see what you are saying, you could also argue the reverse and that he took all the wickets as nobody else did. He was the only really brilliant bowler so he was the only one took lots of wickets. Though i couldn't agree more about Lara, people say Pontings better, but as we have seen recently he falls apart without the support of his team.
Ponting v Lara - sorry Ponting is brilliant. Lara is something else.
That 1st WR was against a pretty average England attack/team. The 2nd 400 was against a much better team - at the same time the WI had gone from joint best team to also rans. Put Ricky in Englands 1996-1999 team and his average would have been no better than Nasser's
It was his best performance. Interesting how when it came to the 10th wicket he refused to not take the catch because 'crickets not like that. When Kumble was on 8 wickets the Indians the Indians didn't feel the same they did everything not to get the batsmen out so Kumble could bowl them. Not to say Kumble himself is to blame.
God he made wessels look like a fool! He was completely fooled by that leg-cutter. Can't believe Hilditch would fall in to a trap like that either - openers aren't meant to hook! R.J. Hadlee: the best (and I'm an Aussie).
Hadlee chased records? geez that's a bit harsh considering that he is by far new zealands greatest ever cricketer, how can one bowl for ones self anyway? he bowled a consistently beautiful line and length and could make the ball "talk". no slouch with the bat either
Hadlee's catch (at 2:20) to take the 9th wicket is one of the great gestures of cricket. Truly the "selfless catch" of the last millennium. He had taken the first 8, and could well have got 10 had he not made a good effort to take it. What a great champion!
I had such a crush on Richard Hadlee when I was growing up -- great batsman, great bowler, everything he did was stylish (and by the way, Richard, if you're reading this, it's still on, you know what I mean?).
As a New Zealander growing up in a hostile environment (Melbourne), there weren't many heroes (the 1980 Olympics when we won 8 golds to the Aussies' 4 was alright though), but RJ was an inspiration. Cheers!
By the way: the underarm bowl? We haven't forgotten, you pricks! :)
he was a great bowler....but was a bit of a dickhead who wasn't popular with other teams or even his own team mates.....he played for himself much like Boycott, and chased records.
Oh and those Olympics were 1984 not 1980..........don't bother mentioning every other Olympic games will you mate........for example Beijing Aus 14 gold NZ 3
Ajantha Mendis is a legend! Another 4 wickets and ten for the match in that test against India. Only his second test? Who the f*ck cares, he's the next big thing.
Hadlee was as good as any bowler bar none, Windies included. So shrewd and found weaknesses in techniques like no other bowler; that in itself scared batsmen. You don't need to be express if you're as good as this fellow was; first 80 mph is more than enough to do the damage. Such a run miser too. We Aussies didn't warm to him at all!
Most people dont understand what a great fast bowler is. A great fast bowler is one who could deceive batsman with pace and movement. Also someone who can work out a batsman's weakness. Hadlee appeared to be one of those types.
As for the guy who said the balls looked ordinary, actually alot of them were exceedingly good & if you know anything about cricket then you'll know that balls inbetween wickets are just as important which aren't shown. Marshall and Lillie awesome bowlers, but they were part of stronger bowling lineups, Hadlee was supported by stock bowling at best.Some days he swung it so much players couldn't get near enough to nick one.
i once saw hadley destroy pakistan; pakistan's all time great batsman, Zaheer Abaas, complained to the umpire that he couldn't see the ball!!! yes, he was so fast that day! a great bowler, no doubt
not to take anything from the man....but these balls all seem ordinary...bowled at medium pace...the shots played by the batsman, were all horrible...australia had an ordinary line up for this match....very unexperienced side...hadlee took full advantage of this....looks like he took about five steps and bowled the ball!
I can see what you mean, but he did get some movement and keep the ball in place. What was so amazing about Hadlee is how he performed despite the mediocrity of the rest of the bowling (like Kapil for India, or Andy Flower's batting for Zimbabwe). The WI 80s attacks may have been faster and mightier than Hadlee and Kapil, but they weren't playing for weak sides.
as far as being consistently difficult to play and devastating to opposition batsmen i reckon malcolm marshall would have to go down as the greatest of all time. lillee was more of a hero and captured the public (as did hadlee in nz)
Hadlee was one of the greatest fast bowlers, he was always very modest, he always said that Imran Khan was the best alrounder, and Lillee the best fast bowler. Lillee and Hadlee opening the bowling-none better!!!!
Not anymore. This 23 yo Sri Lankan (Ajantha Mendis) is the amazing bowler. Maybe if batsmen get to know his tricks he might come back to the field, but he can bowl more deliveries than all past great offspin and legspin bowlers put together and he just took another 6 wickets against India. Sehwag scored 201 out of the 329 in a recent test, so he can read him. But most couldn't possibly tell what he's gonna bowl next coz he don't have a stock ball.
I know, but he's going to change spin bowling. For him to bowl such variety so accurately, he's going to be a king sized headache. And he runs in like a medium pacer. We Aussies don't need him to be good coz subcontinent hates our team with a passion, but sh*t i hope he's as good as some think.
Who Hadlee? Not long. It's not just he had a great average, but he made the very best batsmen feel pretty insecure. He's up there with the silk like as Marshall, Garner, Ambrose, Lillee, McGrath, Imran, Wasim and co.
Perhaps because he was the only strike bowler in his team unlike Marshall or McGrath. Also Marshall got his wickets at an average of 20 whereas Hadlee did at 22. What does that tell you about their penetrative abilities?
Hi mate. Yup, certainly a case for the awesome MDM. The 1984 series against poor old England was probably the first where I watched every ball bowled. Marshall was just frightening. Just incredible. I remember feeling a sense of doom and genuine for the batsmen when he came on. He had that mystique.
Of course there was enormous art and skill, too, but the sheer pace sort of distracted you from his genius. So there is a strong argument for Marshall as top - or as one of the top three.
Well, Marshall, Hadlee, Lillee and even Imran Khan are all up there and little separates them really. But all the others have gone on record to say that Lillee was the best bowler of the lot. ot only was he a force in tandem with Thommo but carrying the side by himself, and with injuries that would have crippled most players of the time. However, in saying that, there is more than enough justification to say Hadlee is the greatest ever as well. Personally, I think it's Lillee.
As a kid (and a modestly violent fast bowler of the future, who had a little bit of success) the only action worth emulating, in every way, was Sir Richard Hadlee's.
I hope he's been enjoying his well-earned retirement and I wish him well in his many future years. What a fine man. What a great fast bowler. (The greatest, as far as I'm concerned).
True. But Hadlee is hardly likely to call himself the greatest. Lillee was one of the top two ;) as far as I'm concerned. Rawer; a little less refined but devastating and with one of the all time great actions. But maybe that could be said of Holding though.
Well, actually, I dunno. You could be right about Lillee. Watching Lillee vs Richards, '76 or the early 8fer he got against the World XI ('69?). Can't think of anyone else ever who could have done that to those batsmen at that pace...Sheer genius. I'm a bit stumped on this one now.
The greatest action of all time (followed by Holding and Lillee - I'm too young to have seen Lindwall and Truman).
Of all of them, though, this was the one when I was a kid in the early eighties that the coaches used as the archetypal fast bowler's (or just the bowler's) perfect action. I tried to copy it - but it's impossible. You'd have to be an Olympic gymnast as well as a fast bowler to copy Hadlee. The man was a total genius and is still my hero.
Great footage - thanks for uploading it! A great moment in New Zealand sporting history, that's for sure. The current Aussie side is a lot better than that one, but I reckon Hadlee would still test them pretty sternly!
the old poof sir don reckoned he was the best rythm seam and cut bowler of his era possibly any era. The only person I think who came close was michael holding circa 1975-76 he was lethal rythm amazing so quick way quicker than thomson I reckon tube it he bowls one over to close and close almost sh*ts himself
Greatest bowling performanceI'veever seen.
TheMarathonomahos 1 month ago
HADLEE'S A WANKER! (cha, cha, cha, cha, cha!)
pandaeyes42 2 months ago
Just the perfect fast bowlers action. Fantastic bowler.
69Ocker 1 year ago
hay guys if u wana 2 knw dat who is da best all rounder in 80s thn watch da all rounder compitation matches between KHAN, HADLEE, KAPIL. and BOTHAM
fathsomuch 1 year ago
I wouldve dropped that catch! xD
kakapomax 1 year ago
People tend to forget that Akram and Marshall and Lillee all had batsman on their teams they could depend on to give them runs to bowl to, which relieved the pressure they had on them NOT to concede runs while they were hunting wickets - they didnt HAVE to be economical as strike bowlers. Hadlee knew the NZ batting lineup was more likely to collapse than produce a big score, so he was ALWAYS under pressure in any inning to take as many wickets for as few runs as possible.
LordCholmondeleyWank 2 years ago
@LordCholmondeleyWank That's a fair point. But folks like Marshall and Imran have performed brilliantly on dead sub-continent pitches and I'm sure that's a point to consider as well. See my list below and tell us what you think.
Imrankniazi 1 year ago
HADLEE'S-A-WANKER!
CLAP CLAP, CLAP CLAP
rofl
mallamoozoo 2 years ago
Shane Warne then Richard Hadlee for me.
MyWaterBill 2 years ago
Marshall has the lowest average of all the fast bowlers making him arguably the best.
Personally there is something about Curtley Ambrose that I would find very annoying to face. Everything is around your chest. Awkward.
Snaurt 2 years ago
Great action. It's economical the way he stays close to the ground. Similar to Akram. The leap is perhaps unnecessary.
Snaurt 2 years ago
hadlee 360 odd wickets in 86 tests, thats pretty good bowling
stockcar269s 2 years ago
431 wickets in 86 tests
kertime91 2 years ago
I'd have to go:
1. Warne
2. Marshall
3.Akram
4. Lillee
5. Muralitheran
maccamace 2 years ago
@maccamac Keep the spinners seperate, man. It complicates the issue. For pace bowlers, I'd say:
1) Marshall / Hadlee (couldn't decide really)
2) McGrath
3) Imran
4) Lillee
5) Ambrose
Spinners are for a seperate list and that's for another day.
Imrankniazi 1 year ago
@Imrankniazi with out wasim akram and waqar younis any list of fast bowlers incomplete.
syedjahangirshah1 1 year ago
@Imrankniazi Interesting selection there. Marshall could be extremely loose at times though lethal. I though Holding and Garner were technically better bowlers. I like your inclusion of Imran wonderful bowler. I think that you can't beat the great all rounders of the 80's.
1) Hadlee
2) Botham
3) Khan
4) Dev
5) ?
Where these guys were so good was that they could also bat down the order. I think Lillee, McGrath and Ambrose while awesome kinda straight jacket a team strategically.
ImeldaDavies 1 year ago
@ImeldaDavies I think Kapil, Imran and Botham could bat at any position, not just lower down the order. Hadlee, although an explosive batsman, had his technical shortcomings.Come to think of it, a great all-rounder just played 7 tests due to non-cricketing reasons or could have been rubbing shoulders with the best of them - Mike Procter!
Imrankniazi 1 year ago
@Imrankniazi I never saw enough of Procter to comment. From what I know mate his career was screwed by injury.
ImeldaDavies 1 year ago
@ImeldaDavies Procter was rated by many to be a top-notch player. His first-class record (county was really competitive those days) is beyond awesome. All international players of the 70s faced him and they reckon he was in the league of Botham and Imran as all-rounders. I mean ahead of Kapil and Hadlee but slightly behind Sir Gary.
I never saw him but have read a lot about him. Who knows what they could have achieved in Tests had G. Pollock, Barry Richards or Procter not been undone by fate?
Imrankniazi 1 year ago
I have read through all of the comments and decided that you all have full blown aids.
donseagar 2 years ago
Sorry PEOPLE, do not judge me. But it seems you only have access to Australian, NZ, or WI channel. Whoever think of anyone else other than WASIM AKRAM do not know anything of cricket. the guy is a MAGICIAN. FORGET the swinging reverse swing yorkers. he can even bowl a reverse swing bouncer. and Everyone use his bowling style to teach young bowlers. A bowling WIZARD OF ALL TIME.
93462 2 years ago
Hadlee's appeals were sensational aye.
JosephErnestHarper 2 years ago
DK Lillee is the greatest fast bowler of all time, master of every delivery and all at around 150k.
Sanath340 2 years ago
The three greatest fast bowlers of all eras
1 RICHARD HADLEE
2 DENNIS LILEE
3 MALCOLM MARSHALL
neo1mil2 2 years ago
Holding? McGrath? Etc?
That's a very big call.
mathewdeering 2 years ago
IMHO these are the three best bowlers of last 50 years. Warne, Hadlee, Mike Procter.
mickeyb1000 2 years ago
I remember watching this as a proud Kiwi school kid back in Wellington, well deserved along with recent the recent ICC Hall of Fame induction Sir Richard.
shaggymonsta 2 years ago 2
@shaggymonsta
I was a kid as well at the time and this was the best bowling performance I'd ever seen. I can't remember too many better. Even as an Aussie I thought Hadlee was the man. While were at it Danny Morrison was very underrated.
theivd 8 months ago
I am an Indian fan but Sir. Hadlee is a great pace bowler. Best bowling action, in my opinion. Classic, smooth and elegant.
kickapakibutt 2 years ago 4
only indians would say "I am an Indian but". you dont have to be of any nationality to appreciate good cricket
Hmarkas 2 years ago
I dont think that is warranted. Stop being a jerk and a racist.
kickapakibutt 2 years ago
your calling me racist when you have a racial slur in your screen name? what a typical indian cunt
Hmarkas 2 years ago
@kickapakibutt I think you could argue he was the best. Beautiful action and follow through.
ImeldaDavies 1 year ago
RJH is the best pace bowler ever. His control on pace, swing has no parallel. What a great treat to watch him in action. Thanks for posting this.
buttegowda 2 years ago
Agreed - what a cricketer! He was a far better bowler than Botham, Kapil or Imran though they were all better batsman
The man is a legend - I always disagree with my friend who says the great Marshall was better. He was faster and played in a better team than SRH though didn't have the range of armoury SRL had.
rc2869 2 years ago
Has a modern quick bowler ever taken better test match figures? 15 in the match has got to be one of the best returns for a quickie.
HooperTheAnarchist 3 years ago
my last comment is to boswellWHANUA!
Stas988 3 years ago
probably the best pace bowler of alltime, before Lillee, Marshall, Imran Khan et al. Hadlee was a master of his craft.
chillipeanuts 3 years ago
sorry, meant McGraths game wouldn't have worked without pressure. No offence to McGrath fans as he's my favourite Australian bowler I just think we need to put averages in context, ie teams, eras etc.
Stas988 3 years ago
Someone below has made a good point below about RJH doing it on his own. Hadlee did have Chatfield who denied runs. He also came back from a fairly weak career start. But overall, he NZ team didn't win that many games and Hadlee was essentially doing it alone with no backup and no pressure like a McGrath whoes team were dominant and had depth. McGraths game/line wouldn't have worked with team pressure. Fot the same reason I rate Lara above all, his team sucked the most,but he stood up tall.
Stas988 3 years ago 2
I think there is a bit more to it than that for the NZ team of the 80's. While it wasnt spectacular, it remained unbeaten against all comers (including a series win against the mighty windies) for 10 years.
Also keep in mind that NZ, being the minnow of test nations, was never given the opportunities that the big countries were given for test rubbers. Its a crime that a player of Hadlee's genius only played 70 test matches. NZ when on tour would be lucky to get a three match series.
boswellwhanau 3 years ago
fuck off r-tard. your comments dont even make sense in relation to mine and in addition your comments are obvious and recycled rhetoric. ive also had three or four ocassions to chat to the great man himself about his career. trust me, he did most of it alone in the bowling department.
Stas988 3 years ago
Not quite so sure what you are getting all defensive over? I was merely commenting on the fact that even though NZ was a one horse team (thus agreeing with you), it still remained unbeaten at home during the 80's. Nothing I said contradicted anything you said.
boswellwhanau 3 years ago
Hadlee played 86 tests for the Kiwis.
BroncosFan1990 3 years ago
though i see what you are saying, you could also argue the reverse and that he took all the wickets as nobody else did. He was the only really brilliant bowler so he was the only one took lots of wickets. Though i couldn't agree more about Lara, people say Pontings better, but as we have seen recently he falls apart without the support of his team.
redman8903 2 years ago
Ponting v Lara - sorry Ponting is brilliant. Lara is something else.
That 1st WR was against a pretty average England attack/team. The 2nd 400 was against a much better team - at the same time the WI had gone from joint best team to also rans. Put Ricky in Englands 1996-1999 team and his average would have been no better than Nasser's
rc2869 2 years ago
It was his best performance. Interesting how when it came to the 10th wicket he refused to not take the catch because 'crickets not like that. When Kumble was on 8 wickets the Indians the Indians didn't feel the same they did everything not to get the batsmen out so Kumble could bowl them. Not to say Kumble himself is to blame.
Stas988 3 years ago
Hadlee was on the top his game. 15 out of 20in the match.
Made the Aussies look like a bunch amateurs.
Today NZ'ers need Shane Bond back.
eydiot909 3 years ago
God he made wessels look like a fool! He was completely fooled by that leg-cutter. Can't believe Hilditch would fall in to a trap like that either - openers aren't meant to hook! R.J. Hadlee: the best (and I'm an Aussie).
tibohibj 3 years ago
"R.J. Hadlee: the best (and I'm an Aussie)."
No shame dude
Its not your fault
Pity we havnt had another outstanding player like Sir Richard
Bond would be closest but he didnt play enough games
But 436 wkts from only 86 games thats fucking outstanding The guy was a freak
Botham who?
(although in my mind Warne was the greatest ever he IS the record holder Murili is a chucker and dosnt count)
666daedsidog 3 years ago
Hadlee chased records? geez that's a bit harsh considering that he is by far new zealands greatest ever cricketer, how can one bowl for ones self anyway? he bowled a consistently beautiful line and length and could make the ball "talk". no slouch with the bat either
dlourey 3 years ago
i love how many fielders they had in the cordon in those days
FuckLebs 3 years ago
It's a test match and they're trying to get wickets. You still see the same field positions today all the time.
owheelj 3 years ago
Like the Ozzy/india tests a couple weeks ago India had a 9-1 field and bowled off stump
666daedsidog 3 years ago
Hes our greatest ever cricketer and will never be matched(unfortunately)
BroncosFan1990 3 years ago
Hadlee's catch (at 2:20) to take the 9th wicket is one of the great gestures of cricket. Truly the "selfless catch" of the last millennium. He had taken the first 8, and could well have got 10 had he not made a good effort to take it. What a great champion!
ryaniima 3 years ago 2
I still rate that as the best fast bowling performance I ever saw, even if that was an incredibly weak Australian team.
inxia38 3 years ago
hadlee was to new zealand what mcgrath was to australia two great bowlers
nitrosshadow 3 years ago
Whoops, you're right. Some patriot I am. We didn't win anything in Moscow.
Beijing: Aus 1 gold per 1.5 million people; NZ 1 per 1.4 million; you can't beat class! :)
aramael 3 years ago
I had such a crush on Richard Hadlee when I was growing up -- great batsman, great bowler, everything he did was stylish (and by the way, Richard, if you're reading this, it's still on, you know what I mean?).
As a New Zealander growing up in a hostile environment (Melbourne), there weren't many heroes (the 1980 Olympics when we won 8 golds to the Aussies' 4 was alright though), but RJ was an inspiration. Cheers!
By the way: the underarm bowl? We haven't forgotten, you pricks! :)
aramael 3 years ago
he was a great bowler....but was a bit of a dickhead who wasn't popular with other teams or even his own team mates.....he played for himself much like Boycott, and chased records.
Oh and those Olympics were 1984 not 1980..........don't bother mentioning every other Olympic games will you mate........for example Beijing Aus 14 gold NZ 3
Aussiephil99 3 years ago
The fact that he chased records meant that he tried to get as many wickets as he could, which helped the team win.
Blackcaps4ever 3 years ago
431 wickets in 86 tests. Tell me that isn't amazing for the era.
driffter76 3 years ago
Ajantha Mendis is a legend! Another 4 wickets and ten for the match in that test against India. Only his second test? Who the f*ck cares, he's the next big thing.
WanderingSplit 3 years ago
Hadlee was as good as any bowler bar none, Windies included. So shrewd and found weaknesses in techniques like no other bowler; that in itself scared batsmen. You don't need to be express if you're as good as this fellow was; first 80 mph is more than enough to do the damage. Such a run miser too. We Aussies didn't warm to him at all!
WanderingSplit 3 years ago 2
Most people dont understand what a great fast bowler is. A great fast bowler is one who could deceive batsman with pace and movement. Also someone who can work out a batsman's weakness. Hadlee appeared to be one of those types.
sonofthedestroyer 3 years ago
I dont think you can rate who was the best ever
Although Sir Richard would have to be up there
But so are a few others
So i go with sentiment Backed up by stats
Hadlee definitely the greatest of the 80s
666daedsidog 4 years ago
As for the guy who said the balls looked ordinary, actually alot of them were exceedingly good & if you know anything about cricket then you'll know that balls inbetween wickets are just as important which aren't shown. Marshall and Lillie awesome bowlers, but they were part of stronger bowling lineups, Hadlee was supported by stock bowling at best.Some days he swung it so much players couldn't get near enough to nick one.
Stas988 4 years ago
Just look at his stats. he didn't need sheer pace just v good line and length and movement of the ball. Greatest seam bowler ever.
pcartv 4 years ago
the blackcaps have the greatest test match bowler of all time hadlee,the best one day bowler of all time bond!
kertime91 4 years ago
Hadlee is the best ever. 431 wickets in 86 tests, it took dev 130 tests to get to that. The stats speak for themselves.
driffter76 4 years ago
i once saw hadley destroy pakistan; pakistan's all time great batsman, Zaheer Abaas, complained to the umpire that he couldn't see the ball!!! yes, he was so fast that day! a great bowler, no doubt
aezazuh 4 years ago
not to take anything from the man....but these balls all seem ordinary...bowled at medium pace...the shots played by the batsman, were all horrible...australia had an ordinary line up for this match....very unexperienced side...hadlee took full advantage of this....looks like he took about five steps and bowled the ball!
thecrucifer 4 years ago
I can see what you mean, but he did get some movement and keep the ball in place. What was so amazing about Hadlee is how he performed despite the mediocrity of the rest of the bowling (like Kapil for India, or Andy Flower's batting for Zimbabwe). The WI 80s attacks may have been faster and mightier than Hadlee and Kapil, but they weren't playing for weak sides.
BartBassist 4 years ago
as far as being consistently difficult to play and devastating to opposition batsmen i reckon malcolm marshall would have to go down as the greatest of all time. lillee was more of a hero and captured the public (as did hadlee in nz)
mkeysou812 4 years ago
Hadlee was one of the greatest fast bowlers, he was always very modest, he always said that Imran Khan was the best alrounder, and Lillee the best fast bowler. Lillee and Hadlee opening the bowling-none better!!!!
Jobster9 4 years ago
Marshall and McGrath 1st and 2nd change and Warne as the spinner!
God bless the opposition batsmen!
Imrankniazi 2 years ago
sir don bradman, Viv richards, Sachin Tendulkar,Gilchrist and Ricky Pointing batting order.. how would that be ;)
pavankpbhat 2 years ago
Great names there. But why not Sobers, why not Greg Chappell, Javed Miandad, Sunil Gavaskar or B.C.Lara?
Imrankniazi 2 years ago
You people are all wrong. Malcolm Marshall is the greatest bowler.
sneakydaycrawler123 4 years ago
look how many tests (86) hadlee played and how many wickets he got (431) no other bowler has a better wickets to test ratio
pramboy74 4 years ago
What about Murali?
porkerdude 3 years ago
Not anymore. This 23 yo Sri Lankan (Ajantha Mendis) is the amazing bowler. Maybe if batsmen get to know his tricks he might come back to the field, but he can bowl more deliveries than all past great offspin and legspin bowlers put together and he just took another 6 wickets against India. Sehwag scored 201 out of the 329 in a recent test, so he can read him. But most couldn't possibly tell what he's gonna bowl next coz he don't have a stock ball.
WanderingSplit 3 years ago
Easy fella! Mendis has only played two tests.
porkerdude 3 years ago
I know, but he's going to change spin bowling. For him to bowl such variety so accurately, he's going to be a king sized headache. And he runs in like a medium pacer. We Aussies don't need him to be good coz subcontinent hates our team with a passion, but sh*t i hope he's as good as some think.
WanderingSplit 3 years ago
how many tests did it take him to get over 400wickets?
pramboy74 3 years ago
Who Hadlee? Not long. It's not just he had a great average, but he made the very best batsmen feel pretty insecure. He's up there with the silk like as Marshall, Garner, Ambrose, Lillee, McGrath, Imran, Wasim and co.
WanderingSplit 3 years ago
Perhaps because he was the only strike bowler in his team unlike Marshall or McGrath. Also Marshall got his wickets at an average of 20 whereas Hadlee did at 22. What does that tell you about their penetrative abilities?
Imrankniazi 3 years ago
Hi mate. Yup, certainly a case for the awesome MDM. The 1984 series against poor old England was probably the first where I watched every ball bowled. Marshall was just frightening. Just incredible. I remember feeling a sense of doom and genuine for the batsmen when he came on. He had that mystique.
Of course there was enormous art and skill, too, but the sheer pace sort of distracted you from his genius. So there is a strong argument for Marshall as top - or as one of the top three.
MDM: RIP
ludocrat 3 years ago
Well, Marshall, Hadlee, Lillee and even Imran Khan are all up there and little separates them really. But all the others have gone on record to say that Lillee was the best bowler of the lot. ot only was he a force in tandem with Thommo but carrying the side by himself, and with injuries that would have crippled most players of the time. However, in saying that, there is more than enough justification to say Hadlee is the greatest ever as well. Personally, I think it's Lillee.
kazoh0lic 4 years ago
As a kid (and a modestly violent fast bowler of the future, who had a little bit of success) the only action worth emulating, in every way, was Sir Richard Hadlee's.
I hope he's been enjoying his well-earned retirement and I wish him well in his many future years. What a fine man. What a great fast bowler. (The greatest, as far as I'm concerned).
ludocrat 4 years ago
Hadlee himself said that Dennis Lillee was the greatest and that he modeled his bowling on Lillee's
kazoh0lic 4 years ago
True. But Hadlee is hardly likely to call himself the greatest. Lillee was one of the top two ;) as far as I'm concerned. Rawer; a little less refined but devastating and with one of the all time great actions. But maybe that could be said of Holding though.
ludocrat 4 years ago
Well, actually, I dunno. You could be right about Lillee. Watching Lillee vs Richards, '76 or the early 8fer he got against the World XI ('69?). Can't think of anyone else ever who could have done that to those batsmen at that pace...Sheer genius. I'm a bit stumped on this one now.
ludocrat 4 years ago
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Imrankniazi 3 years ago
McGrath is better than both of them
bond2121 4 years ago
lol - maybe, but I can't admit that because the pain and suffering he inflicted over the years is still a bit too fresh in the memory.
ludocrat 4 years ago
bollocks
pramboy74 3 years ago
fuck the police
vain07 4 years ago
Bill Lawry reluctantly praises Hadlee, in reality he hates NZ.
johnnytanini 4 years ago
chris kahui is innocent u stinking filthy nz police.....he is an innocent father....and as usual the man gets the blame ....fuck you!!!!
WINFIELD120 4 years ago
loser
Tuxy69 4 years ago
chris kahui is innocent nz police filth!!!
vain07 4 years ago
god bless richard hadlee he is the rocky theme of nz many thanks ricHard
WINFIELD120 4 years ago
the secret ro nzs success was world class bowling but equally world class fielding....catches win matches peoples
WINFIELD120 4 years ago
CHRIS KAHUI IS INNOCENT NZ POLICE
WINFIELD120 4 years ago
CHRIS KAHUI IS INNOCENT NZ POLICE
WINFIELD120 4 years ago
fucken crooked pigs
WINFIELD120 4 years ago
The greatest action of all time (followed by Holding and Lillee - I'm too young to have seen Lindwall and Truman).
Of all of them, though, this was the one when I was a kid in the early eighties that the coaches used as the archetypal fast bowler's (or just the bowler's) perfect action. I tried to copy it - but it's impossible. You'd have to be an Olympic gymnast as well as a fast bowler to copy Hadlee. The man was a total genius and is still my hero.
ludocrat 4 years ago
If Hadlee was playing today he would be the best by a long way, or at least in league with Mcrath. No one else is even close.
gingedaywalker101 4 years ago
Yes he was brilliant. One of the greatest ever.
pacus123 5 years ago
Marvellous performance there by Sir Richard. What a fabulous player he was, NZ's best ever player.
johnnytanini 5 years ago
The great Rischard Hadlee getting the ball to swing late there! Thanks for the video!
hilalsuhaib 5 years ago
unlike the chucking cheat Muralitharan.
pacus123 5 years ago
Great footage - thanks for uploading it! A great moment in New Zealand sporting history, that's for sure. The current Aussie side is a lot better than that one, but I reckon Hadlee would still test them pretty sternly!
nzyowie 5 years ago
hed rape those kangeroo fiddlers
WINFIELD120 4 years ago
the old poof sir don reckoned he was the best rythm seam and cut bowler of his era possibly any era. The only person I think who came close was michael holding circa 1975-76 he was lethal rythm amazing so quick way quicker than thomson I reckon tube it he bowls one over to close and close almost sh*ts himself
WINFIELD120 4 years ago
hear hear richard hadlee I am a proud nzer
WINFIELD120 4 years ago
god bless u sir richard my baby cold chisel to this is inspirational
WINFIELD120 4 years ago