this is as stupid and illogical as the whole islam
islam is the deceit of satan
know this that islam has NOTHING to offer to people:
no salvation (you are not sure of your salvation unless you murder innocent people and die as martyrs),
no hope,
no love of god,
no relationship with God,
you are allah's slaves.
christians are saved, they are children of God and have relationship with God. islam is rituals and bows to the black stone. christiniaty is love relationship.
muslims antichrist liars and decivers MATHEW 28,19-20 LORD JESUS CHRIST speaking to CHRISTIANS Apostoles GO AND MAKE ALL NATIONS MY DESCIPLES AND TEACH THEM TO KEEP ALL THAT I WOES COMMAND JOHN 20,24-29 Apostol Thomas speaking to CHRIST my LORD my GOD and JESUS CHRIST speak because you se me and you belive blessed are one who will not se me but they will belive When JESUS CHRIST speak I and my FATHER are ONE JESUS CHRIST speak IAM FATHER GOD GOD OF HOLY BIBLE IS FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT
Only a simpleton would say that God can only be one thing if God wanted to be an ant He would say and it is so. If He wanted to be a planet He would say it and it is so, I cant, well I should say I do believe just how simplisticly this man speaks. And if you look at all the videos he seems to remember key chapters but lets all face it a photographic memory and university degree does not equate to wisdom, Id like to see him in a real debate notice he only alows questions & does most the talking
@myhowmad Then take issue with what he's saying and not 'the man'; otherwise you're no better than most of the talking heads on MSM "news", using empty ad hominems which are a fallacy.
The bible has been changed so many times it's irrelevant and of man, anyway; this deliberately misinterpreted doctrine, has been falsefied, at a minimum, since Constantine.
Good arguments can be made it was diddled when ASSEMBLED by the Levite priests from the BEGINNING of the Torah w/the "War Scroll".
I LOVE the this guy twists things putting his own develish spin on things and OH about youre memory, my computor has a great memory but when u ask it something it gives u the truth untwisted. yes he has a great memory behold the human hard drive doesnt mean hes wise so what if christians cant recall from memory doenst mean they are wrong. Beetowen was deaf and what a composer was He. I see lawers doing the same thing when they defend murderers and rapists who does this man defend? The same kind
111, 222, 333, 444, 555, 666, 777 not 1 +1 +1 = 3. Man writing on paper but God wrote everything in himself and a lot of people recognized him as the word of god. God's creation is like what has been written. Humans can not see God but a symbol of his administration has declared it.
He's lying. At the time of Moses the way to God was through animal sacrifices to cover sins, not through Moses. I didn't listen to any more past that. There is no reason to listen to more lies.
Muhammad had many wives. some were other men's widows. One was a child. He said it was ok to plunder. He killed women and children and said it was ok to sleep with a slave's wife. He said God's wants to test people as to how harsh they can fight against those that don't believe in his writings (as that is all they are. No prophet or Godly man prior to him supports him). Jesus had no wives. He spoke words of forgiveness and repentance of the world. Jesus spoke the same message God gave to Jonah
@Tsigano exodus 21:7-11 female slaves and how to sell ur daughter. Leviticus 27:3-7 god sets the monetary value of a man always higher than that of a women. Deuteronomy 22:23-34 women who is raped by a foreigner must be stoned to death for not crying out loudly enough for help. that old test u going to say well no worries here what the new test say 1 Corinthians 11:3 the head of the women is man, meaning that in in the christian religion, women are to be subordinate to men.
@strongside200 Read Genesis about the flood and see that He flooded man due to the seed of the Nephilim (fallen angels) This is also covered in the book of Enoch. Read why God made the Jews a nation and sent them into Canaan. Because of the Rephaim. If a women is raped by a foreigner then she may carry a child with Rephaim genes. Whatever this seed was it must be bad. Read Genesis chapter 6. Particularly verses 4 & 5. Now compare Muhammad who murdered solely because people refuse to believe him
@Tsigano verses 5&6 how women in churches with uncovered head should have them shaved. accordIng to 1 timothy, women should dress modestly (2:9) & remain quiet, in submission to men 2:11-12. Look up urself Matthew 7:1-5 it violent i gave u the old test & new, i can go on & on with the facts what ur bible says even thou it written by a MAN. btw ellah & allah is the same even rabbi will agree matter fact chirstian Arab say Allah, but when u translate Aramaic to English it not same SCIENTIFIC FACT
@strongside200 lol. Matt &:1-5 speaks about not judging others unless you also want to be judged. Like I said to you on a previous post where you did the normal Muslim thing of talking of being violence to those that challenge you phony prophet false doctrines. "How can you expect God to forgive and show love to you when you sin against God if you do not show the same love and forgiveness to those that sin against you?
You try to use verses but miss your own sick directions. surah 4:34 The actual translation is "beat". Muslim men are to "beat" your women if they are not obedient.
@strongside200 go back 10 verses to Surah 4:24-> and read an accurate translation of these verses. Type "Muslims can have sex with Slaves who are married" on youtube to see a man who happily like to discuss the deeper understanding of the Quran. Lol. How is it that when you say Islam challanges Christianity that none of the Christians are known throughout the church? Why? Because it is cheap Muslim properganda. Islam relies on this tactic or it gets proved wrong every time. Try real Christians
@strongside200 Gen 17:9-22 But God said, "No, but Sarah ur wife will bear u a son, & u shall call his name Isaac; & I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. "As for Ishmael, I have heard u; behold, I will bless him, & will make him fruitful & will multiply him exceedingly He shall become the father of twelve princes, & I will make him a great nation.
---- bless him, multiply him & make a great nation but no where does it say for God!! ----
@strongside200 21"But My covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to u at this season next year." 22 When He finished talking with him, God went up from Abraham."
----- in plain scripture. Ishmael was not a part of God's plan. He was born out of doubt. Doubt is the work of Satan!! Muhammad is from Ishmael not Isaac. Muhammad persecutes the descendants of Isaac. Again the -work of Satan. Read plain scripture& work it out for urself ---
don't talk rubbish with your islamic propaganda. I've seen too much of it and I'm not naive enough to believe it. Islam relies on false propaganda. This video above is an example of it. Muhammad was a man of war who married many wives and plundered caravans saying God wills it. He married a girl will she was still a child whilst he was an old man. What more do you want?
@Tsigano u just get dumber dont u. First prophet Muhammad (pbph) they offer it to him when she was 9 but he was unconformable when she 16,17 that when he married her, everybody was doing it not just the middle east but all over, even in usa u can marry age 16 as long they get parent approval, in NY now the adult can have sex 17yrs, u talk about Muslim marry more than 1 wife, look at king david he had 400, even more interesting usa have highest divorce rate, i guess 1 wife is not good enough
@strongside200 lol. Nobody said u was a Christian. If Muhammad was uncomfatable about her then why did he marry her at all? Don't kid urself with deceitful propaganda. Try using a bit of common sense
@Tsigano i see someone here is slow when i ment i am not chirstian i meant i am not a lair read it again Krishna, first of all islam it does mention forgive, r u lost, the different we believe in self defense unlike u people dont, if i ask christian person do u believe in self defense i get the better odds & u comparing to pagan, pagan belief is bigger corrupted miss guided than the bible that is tampered change by clergy, here fact bible tampered & u completely dont know anything about Islam
you speak about how to treat women type "Allah is Satan the Serpent" and see footage of how women should be treated (saying with sarcasm). I just clicked on it from the menu on the right.
@Tsigano listen if some govt or person treat women less it got nothing to do with islam religion, look usa one of the highest incarceration in the world, u people treat women like slut, american women are very cheap all i have to do is get her drunk or buy her burger and she willing to open her leg, even worse how many christian man kill his children & his wife and at the end he shoot himself or father rape his daughter i know alot of your redneck in south in to that sibling shit, cereal killer
@strongside200 blah blah blah.. more nonsense. Read the verses and teaches of Muhammad in the Quran and then compare them to the verses and teaching of Jesus in the Bible. The two are not comparable. You never see Jesus preaching war and hate. Quite the opposite. Compare the life of Jesus to that of Muhammad and end of story.
@Tsigano ARE U SERIOUS U NEED TO READ QURAN THROWING SOME ACCUSATION & I JUSTIFY THAT TO U & LIED ON surah 47:4, IT HAD NOTHING WHAT UR TALKING ABOUT I KNEW U LOOK AT THE WRONG INFORMATION AND MISS GUIDED ALL U CHRISTIAN DO THE SAME SHIT, NO WONDER MUSLIM SCHOLAR BEAT CHRISTIAN SCOLAR GUYS IN DEBATE, THAT WHY PEOPLE AHMAND DEEDAT,ZAKIAR, AND OTHERS DEMOLISH U GUYS. WHAT HAPPEN TO UR MINSTERS THEY GO TO JAIL FOR STEALING FROM CHARITY, GOING BLINK BLINK AND SPEND IT ON HOOKERS PRAISE THE LORD LOL
@strongside200 u justified nothing to me. U just lied that the verse means something else which if anyone chooses to read it they'll plainly see it doesn't
@Tsigano let me tell you one thing i will never ever lie about my religion i am not christian, i gave you the real chapter number stop playing ur self man i wish can see you face to face and show you the book and after smack you upside ur head because ur ignorant, listen like i said before we will prevail, you keep insulting and making joke on Islam and that how people leave Christianity because it b.s but it all good haha
@strongside200 lol. Smack me up? what like you great "Allah" ask of you? lol. Peace and love? Islam is far from Godly. The spirit of muslims like yourself even proves this. Jesus taught me to turn the other cheak. To forgive and help even my enemies. Even a pagan can forgive and help a friend, but to show love and help and forgive an enemy take real Godliness. If you cannot help, forgive or show any love to others then why should God forgive and love you? Face facts. The Quran is not of God
@Tsigano here the another fact every time christian scholar challenge Muslim scholar we beat you guys, here the fact quran tell detail scientific fact, Even science scholar all over the world agree to that look it up! un like the chirstian believe the world is only 6000 yrs old lol, here the another fact quran never been tampered for over 1400yrs unlike u people destroy it few hundred after Jesus died maybe god bless him
@Tsigano you ask me that question before and i am going to answer it again in some part we do believe in torah and real reason we dont believe 100% because the Torah has been tampered you have couple of them first Aliyah Maftir Hagbaha and Gelila ete orthdox and none just like the bible we believe some part, well alot parts. But how can you change god words, that why you have one quran and 1.5 bil Muslim people is the only religion believe in one book, arab,chinese,white,spanish ete
@strongside200 lol. Fact: In recent years they have discovered that there are qords lidden within the Torah and set intervals. i.e. In genesis get the first 'T'. Then count 40 letters and you get an 'o' then 40 letters and you get an 'r' then 40 letters and you get a 'h' = Torh (Torah in Jewish). The same thing happens in Exodus ...... The Jews of ancient times would have known this info but it has got forgotten over time only to be rediscovered in recent years.
@Tsigano lol dude i just gave you some names on the torah, my man go TALK any rabbi they will tell you there is few torah are little different, just google it matter fact.
@strongside200 How is it Muhammad has no prophets or anyone else through history to support him? Why? Because he is self made and a fake. His message that he spread was murder to anyone who doesn't accept him as the real deal or his writings. His life was nothing but malicious and lust driven. He even received refuge from a Christian king when he took his early followers out of Mecca. Yet doesn't honor that. I wonder why? Because his life is a web of deception
@strongside200 The Bible speaks of two beast. One is from Abraham (but not Isaac - the child of God's promise) and the other is from the nations of the world. One is the Roman Empire and the other is Islam. Both are workers of the devil. Both will be taking their followers into hades with them. Both spread war and slander to the real people of God.
@strongside200 The Bible says that in the end times the followers of the beast will be killing the true followers of God for what they think will be for God. It says the saints will be martyred for "God's Word". It even says the followers of the beast will "behead (strike at the neck of)" those that don't worship it. Funny how this was written first yet Islam tries to say it is corrupted. Why? Because it doesn't want its people to know the truth
@Tsigano i believe 1000% u never sat down with imam before if u did u would never ask these silly question with silly theory, u know quran came after the bible bc ur bible was tampered back than& today. why u dont ask urself that? how can jesus he be god when in the bible he was praying Matthew 26:39. he bow his head to the floor. GOD DOES NOT PRAY! u wanna talk about violent i can give u whole load of rated triple R Deuteronomy 25:11-12 women save her husband life cut her hand off with no pity
@strongside200 The entire book of deuteromony is a record of the laws given to the Jews when coming into the land of canaan. It is not a message of laws to the church. You should do your research. Unlike verses in the Quran written by Muhammad where it actually tells the reader to commit such acts. Stop lying and twisting verses.
@strongside200 The whole point of the laws given to the Jews when coming out of Egypt. It was a strict list of rules amongst themselves as sin in that part of the world was so perverse. God took the Jew out of Egypt but He also had to get the ways of Egypt out of the Jew. There was also Rephaim in the land at that time which was a wicked seed in mankind that was introduced via fallen angels taking the wives of men. Do your research then read the whole of the Bible. God was cleansing this seed.
@strongside200 The Bible says that a false prophet and a false Jesus will come at the end of the world and appear to bring peace for the last seven years. It will make peace with Israel for 3 1/2 yrs then it will attack for the last 31/2 yrs. Funny how Islam is waiting for a Mahdi (end time teacher) and Jesus to bring peace for the last seven years. Funny that the Bible forewarned of this 500yrs before Muhammad made his phony religion
@strongside200 Fact: The Torah is only wrote in one language which has carefully ('superstitiously' if thats the correct word) handed down through the generations. All other versions in any other language are just "translations" of the Bible. They aren't the actual BIble. Just translations. To truly understand God's word we musto understand the original wording as mistakes can be made through translation.
@Tsigano After 911 many american people converted to Islam because they were curious and open minded and they know there religion is tampered& corrupted. The christian clergy change the words in the bible every 5 or 10 years, you know big sin is that changing god word? quran been around 1400 years not even one LETTER have been changed, thank god were the fastest converter religion in the world and we will prevail! salam
@strongside200 I need to read the Quran lol. Which verse. The one slandering a race of people, beat my wife, its OK to sleep with the wife of my slave or the one telling me to make war with anyone who doesn't believe Muhammad is from God?
"strike the neck of (behead) the infidel" because he doesn't believe in the Muhammad. Allah could do it himself but wants to test you by how harsh you can be to others (laughable verse) is hardly what I call Godly. (Surah 47:4). That or verses like sharing out the plunder from who you attack (Surah 8:41)... the list goes on. Thats without seriously questioning the life & acts of Muhammad like plundering caravans, his bloody war campaigns & his many wives (including one that was still a child).
@Tsigano lol you are fool surah 47:4 strike them who disbelieve you only at war as self defense 47:4] If you encounter (in war) those who disbelieve, you may strike the necks. If you take them as captives you may set them free or ransom them, until the war ends. Had GOD willed, He could have granted you victory, without war. But He thus tests you by one another. As for those who get killed in the cause of GOD, He will never put their sacrifice to waste... like i said stop going to those b.s w.s
@strongside200 lol. Like I said.... It includes you. Look at your tone, lol. You prove who's spirit you preach. You look like a lamb (Jesus / Christianity) but you speak like a dragon (satan). Then you walk around trying to look like men of God saying "peace be with you", lol. I have been through all this. scroll back
@Tsigano lol look at my tone? i look like a lamb? wow u see me threw ur computer, yeah that very bright feedback u had there, do me favor when u come saying something about Koran, come correctly not the accusation like u have, i am speaking to ignorant person who is making fool of himself, dont know what he talking about, #2 We dont believe fully with the Torah because it been tampered just like the bible. we believe it belong to the jews but not to the Zionist, even some jews dont like them
@strongside200 u believe in the Torah? Then how come God says to Abraham that He will fulfill His promise through Isaac & makes it very clear it is not the lineage of Ishmael? Its no good going on about nonsense trying to twist verses that read clear enough for anyone to understand. There aren't just one or two verses but many to cross reference and they all read very clear.
Respond to this video... surah 8:41 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (IN WAR), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Apostle, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer,- if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing,- the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN MR TSIGNANO? if you dont someone need to guide u
@Tsigano should i now say what ur bible say about violent it alot worse than lies you said, i will not lie to you like how you lie to me, i will give you word by word, should i tell you and show you what it said if women doesnt cover head it said shave her head off, should i show you if you work on sabbath day hang them, should i show you where it say if women save her husband on a battle it say cut her hand off? i can go on and on, I HAVE THE REAL BIBLE IN MY HOUSE AND I WILL NOT LIE TO U
@strongside200 If u read the Bible and actually understand it then you know the law of Moses was written for the Jews and not the reader. Try reading the prophets who prophesy God's words or the words and teachings of Jesus.
Did Mohammed walk on water? Did Mohammed heal the sick, make blind men see, bring a dead man back to life,? Did Mohammed ascend to heaven in front of his followers eyes? Did Mohammed say to love those who hate you?
@dangarasd again u make no real sense. In the Bible the scriptures r very accurate. Jesus taught love to one another and peace. Muhammad spread Islam through war. Its not hard.
@Tsigano you tell me what you know and dont give me that crap i am reading on website that is unknown i am talking about you have read the actually the book with papers.. but i tell you this ur bible i have so many violent it make texas chain saw rated PG, so you can cut that crap ur bible tought love because i can give you whole bunch of list what bible say and done and what it believe and i have the regional bible and i have the chapter numbers and know so much about ur rule u dont know
@strongside200 yawn... I have a Quran which i was given in an Islamic book shop in East London so I don't need to recite information off websites as I have read the book myself. I also read it from an open mind only to see how wicked and corrupt it is. As well as using my Quran, I also go on to Muslim sites to get information and cross reference and to help understand the Arabic. Muslims get boring as all they do is get aggressive and lie over facts. It gets repetitive. The facts still remain.
@Tsigano i ask you what you about quran, give me infos and chapters, what so wicked about it, i didnt ask you some dude on corner is aggressive or some person bored you
@strongside200 scroll back and you have all your answers. I have even given all the Surahs. I am not talking about "some dude in the corner". I am talking about the tone and attitude that a majority of Moslems post with. This may surprise you but this includes yourself.
@dangarasd U shout when u type. What u say is pointless. scroll back and see how I quote direct from the Quran verses that are evil. All Islam does is rely on propaganda about the west being "evil". This has absolutely nothing to with Christianity or what in the real scriptures. All u do is try to distract from the truth. scroll back a few posts and u'll even see I said u'll do this. It's all u got. nothing of any real fact
@dangarasd U have nothing of any intelligence to say as you don't actually know anything of real worth other than daft slanderous remarks with no reality behind them. REV 20: 4 "Then I saw thrones, & they sat on them, & judgment was given to them & I saw the souls of those who had been "BEHEADED" because of their testimony of Jesus & because of the word of God (THE BIBLE), & those who had not worshiped the beast (2ND BEAST = ISLAM!!) or his image,"
@dangarasd lies, lies & more lies. You lie to steer away from the truth. Truth like the verses from the Quran that are actually there. That and the horrific lifestyle of great Islamic leaders such as Muhammad. Don't try steering away from the truth with empty claims
@dangarasd LOL. How is it time & time again we see Muslims openly use rude & perverse words within their sentences, yet see no wrong in it? In the Bible it tells us not to do such a thing.
@dangarasd REV 20: 4 "Then I saw thrones, & they sat on them, and judgment was given to them & I saw the souls of those who had been "BEHEADED" because of their testimony of Jesus & because of the word of God, & those who had not worshiped the beast (2ND BEAST = ISLAM!!) or his image,"
@Tsigano lets look at some more verses from the "UNHOLY" Quran... Surah 2:193 "AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL PERSECUTION IS NO MORE, AND RELIGION IS FOR ALLAH" & again in Surah 8:39 "AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL PERSECUTION IS NO MORE, AND RELIGION IS ALL FOR ALLAH". How about the classic Surah 61:4 "ALLAH LOVES THEM WHO BATTLE FOR HIS CAUSE IN RANKS, AS IF THEY WERE A SOLID STRUCTURE" The list is massive. They are direct instruction to the reader.
@Tsigano Funny how Christianity wasn't spread through war and invasion yet Islam was. Jesus lived a blameless life and taught love and forgiveness and not to live by the sword. Muhammad attacked & plundered innocent caravans, built an army to attack neighboring countries and regions and at the point of his death he had about 21 wives (one of which he took as wife whilst she was just 7 yrs old).
@dangarasd ISLAM IS WAITING FOR THE TRUE IMAM(AL MAHDI)AND SON OF MARRY ISA(JESUS PBUH) = Yes. & if u really knew anything about Christianity & the true Scripture of God, then u would know that the Bible prophesies that in the last 7 yrs a false prophet / teacher & a false Christ will come - Funny how this is coincidentally the reverse of what u see them as. TRY KNOWING THE TRUE PROPHECY FROM GOD ACTUALLY SAYS.
@dangarasd All u know is Islamic propaganda. U make lies about what u don't even know. Anyone can make daft claims. It is the Quran which lies. Work it out. It isn't hard. Muhammad's life was a serious question for a start. Someone that set himself up as the "true" prophet of God. He attacked caravans to make his money. He made war. Married many wives. One which was only 7 yrs old. Of course he has to try to lies that the true scriptures are corrupt. Otherwise they prove him wrong. FACE FACTS
@dangarasd Notice that the Bible predicts the last seven yrs on earth with a false teacher and a false Christ. Notice Islam is waiting for an end time teacher (Mahdi) and an end time Jesus ---- all not coincidence.
@dangarasd Read the description of the second beast. It will be given authority. It gain authority over the whole Earth in what people think is for God (showing it is a religion). It has two horn meaning it is divided into two sects (shiite & Sunni). Its followers "behead" Christians in what they think is for God. The symbols used in the Bible ( the Greek symbols for 666) are also symbols used to represent Islam today (no coincidence).
@dangarasd Read the description of the beast and we see it is made of iron & clay - powerful yet had venerable times), It looses some of it provinces (to Islam), the world saying "who can touch them" - This is your European nations. Notice a small horn grows up who is allowed to utter blasphemies - cross reference with Revelations and we find this is the whore (the pope / Vatican / catholicism). Notice God says to His people to come from them in the end times. We then get a second beast - Islam.
@dangarasd look in Daniel verse 7. Then we see who the first beast in Revelations is. Dqaniel is telling the king of the Babylonian empire that a series of empire will take his empire. This was prophecy that has been already fulfilled (An example of how amazingly exact and accurate the Bible is - God is gr8). The first was the Persians, the second was the Greeks (under Alexander) and the final one is Rome. Now cross reference this with Revelations and we get the same beast
sorry I just noticed there are two posters. I wrote as though I am writing to one. Sorry. I was supposed to meet some at 2pm. I am 40 mins late. I will b back later and will explain the two Beast with the scriptures.
@dangarasd As u know so little about the "uncorrupted" scriptures of the true God in Heaven, I will happily share some insight. Firstly the book is not written for the non-believer. Those that seek God from a truly honest heart will find Him., Not from the study of words & self righteousness. God does not want to reveal himself to the proud at heart. You won't find God through a library if you still have a proud spirit from Satan.
Ur reading for today is Daniel, Chapter 7. I will reveal later
@dangarasd Magog was written by Jews with Jewish understanding. Try searching old knowledge that the Jews had passed down to themselves. Today this does not exist to the same content but we have writing by Jews that did. Search Flavius Josephus. He was a Roman of Jewish lineage whom was raised in knowledge of Jewish text. He write Roman literature based on Jewish knowledge of Magog.
Galatians 4:28And you brethren, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29But as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so it is now also. 30But what does the Scripture say? "CAST OUT THE BONDWOMAN (Hagar) AND HER SON (Ishmael), FOR THE SON OF THE BONDWOMAN SHALL NOT BE AN HEIR WITH THE SON OF THE FREE WOMAN (Sarah)." 31So then, brethren, we are not children of a bondwoman, but of the free woman.
@Tsigano You must understand the nature of Jesus. He is the Word of God. This is his title. Which means when he speaks he speaks God's words. He is the only prophet like this. All he said was what God said. Jesus was before Abraham as he was an Angel in heaven. When Prophets speak they are not speaking their words when they are prophecying.So when tthey say things like I am the Lord if you were right there with them you would be like.No you arent and probaly get angry with them. Misunderstanding
@Tsigano I wanted to give you an example of youur prophecy. The Spanish Inquisition. Where the Christians forced muslims and jews to convert or leave. Resulting in torture and murder of muslims and jews together. It seems the only one who persecutes the children of israel are the christians
@nikeheader Notice you say "Christian nation". This is because you know they are not Christians but European nations that claim to follow Christianity. You know the truth on this. You are just being irresponsible in trying to spread false knowledge in the point to justify Islam. Like we have said already... A Christian is someone who follows the teachings of Jesus & lives Christ like. Jesus never went to war with swords of physical harm.He fought a battle of love & change via words & by example.
@Tsigano The First christians to Cannonize the Bible were not Catholic and there wasnt even a pope which existed within the Catholic church at the time. Catholics didnt follow a pope nor did they worship on Sunday back then. So there involvement is irrelevant. The First recording of early christians canon had way more than 66 books even had more than Catholics. They did not even contain revelation. So tell me where did you find this 66 book bible is history
@nikeheader It was not pressure from the west. The west acknowledged Israel as a state the entire palestine. They gave it back because the lost in 1948 and signed a deal with the Arab Nations. Why would they sign a peace treaty giving back 70% if the land if it was because of the west. If the west had anything to do with it. Israel would just give it back not sign a deal with the Arabs who were still attacking everyday. The west has never pressured Israel beyond sayin so in public.
@Tsigano You name 7 church's in revelations who church history does not show that the had a Biblical Canon. It is widely accepted by scholars that many of the letter Paul wrote to them have been lost to history. They were never known to have a Biblical Canon since they rarely worked together. Plz show me in history truth to your statement and give me a way to find it so i can verify. For your sake you are telling the truth for God dislikes lies
@nikeheader If you believe in the one God of Moses and Abraham that does make you a muslim now. The Quran says there are christians who are muslim and Jews who are muslim. Its not called Quranism or Mohhamedism. It is called Islam. Submission to God's will. The Quran does not say it is better. It says muslims should follow the Scripture of the true Bible. Just because something came first does not make it better. Should i not read the new testament because it came after the old?
@Tsigano For you to say That a christian is only someone who is accepted by the Majority as a Christians means that by your logic the Catholic Church are the best and most true form of christianity since it has 1 billion people on its side. You are definitely an idiot. To give me an example of a church trying to make love sex which is a translation and not doctrinal interpretations is weak. There are orders of the catholic church whuch believe Gabriel is Holy Sprit
@Tsigano I said christian nation because it is an entire nation which accpets Christianity. A christian is anyone who believes that God sent Jesus. It says this in the Bible. Jesus was perfect or atleast close to it. So if you are saying that to be christian you must be sinless then i guess no one is a christian. Jesus never waged war on earth while he was here but the messiah is meant to wage war. This is in the old testament. Revelation says Jesus will wage war when he returns
@nikeheader A Christian is someone who follows Christ. That is what it means Look the word up or break the word down. Its not hard - "Christ"-ian. You aren't even constructive. You just repetitively twist truth and lie. Its about time you opened your eyes to the truth of world news and politics. Look at the many youngster seeking homes and asylum in the security and freedom west yet go on rampages burning flags and holding up banners of hate. What is all this about.? More denial for you?
@Tsigano You are definitely crazy. The Bible does say you can tell something by the fruit it produces. Christianity Conquered Rome then spread to the rest of the World. Murdering everyone and everything in its path. From the American Indians and South American Natives. To Africa and India and China. Lets face it. Which Nations are always in a war. Christian Nations. Who starts it? Christians
@nikeheader There you go again back on your same road. When you can't argue you try to twist what a Christian is. Christianity conquered Rome. ... What a Liar. I think you are trying to twist historical truths out of desperation. Romans martyred the disciples of Jesus and the early Christians. Then when Christianity grew out of control they made their own version of it putting their own man in control (the pope). Christians don't follow popes, they follow Christ.
@Tsigano Muslims rampaging through london? Wow. How about you search United Stated Christian country Drop 2 nuclear bombs on Japanese Civillians. How about you search the Nazi who were christians. How about you search KKK who are christians. Im not blaming all christians because the Quran says there are many good among the evil. But it seems the Most evil ppl seem to be christian
@nikeheader blah, blah, blah Christians nations... blah,blah, blah... Desperation to try and slander what a Christian is again. Don't be desperate. Just face facts about Islam. Try searching Christian revival or Christian transformations. Try looking at what real Christianity is about instead of lying. Then search your history books and search the news and see the horrific acts that spread Islam
@Tsigano Saladin. Did ot start the war and he Allowed everyone within the city safe passage and those who wanted to stay stayed. He was respected all throughout europe. He allowed Christians and Jews to pray as they wanted. Unlike the Christians who murdered everyone when they took the city. Finally your true colour you defend the Catholics. Saladin Won because God is on the side of the believers. Mohammed never lost a battle and he faced way more powerful armies just like the Israelites
@nikeheader you lie again. I defend the Catholics?? Where have I said this?? Nice try at deceitful slander. I said they attacked due to Muslims attacks. I never said they were right. I never said I support Catholicism. I have however constantly said I follow Jesus and deny anything that call itself Christian yet act contrary to the teaching of Jesus. Jesus was not a leader in war.
@Tsigano Are you crazy? Mohammed fought Arabians who weren't fighting? Where is this in history? It says that he was on the run for many years because they ordered him to be killed. How the hell is that Non-waring. The war in Somalia is not about religion it is about Nationalism and Tribalism. Dont get it twisted. The same is about Indonesia. The only Armies who actually go to attack other Nations are Christian Armies such as Nato and US. Did bush not say God told him to go to middle east?
@Tsigano If Islam is a big war machine and all muslims are evil and want to brainwash hate. Then why dont any muslim nations just wage war on everyone else. I mean there are 1 billion muslims. If muslims hate everyone why do terrorist attack muslims. America got hurt for the first time in 2001. Muslims have been killed daily by extremist. So plz show me where muslims brainwash and kill people.
@nikeheader don't twist and lie again. I never said every Muslim is evil. I said Islam is. There is a difference. Christians aren't supposed to hate anybody as this Jesus never tells us to treat anybody harshly or with hate. He tells us to love even our enemies. Muslims are just people who are blinded by Satan & the "spirit of the air".
@nikeheader "where muslims brainwash and kill people" --- OMG, lol. Somalia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey, Central Asia, America, UK, Sweden, Chechnya. Look in every country on the planet where Islam is present. u don't honestly need me to show u this. Only last week in England a girl killed an innocent man due to Islamic brainwashing. It was in the papers. This isn't a 1-off but is becoming a sign of the times. So-called British citizens making bombs or going off to fight against their army.
@Tsigano So when you get exiled and a reward is given for your head. That isnt self defense. What you think that Mohammed and 100 followers just started going around killing people? How did he win every time. If not with God's help. If he just went into a city and started killing how would he defeat their armies. He was always on the run just as Moses was and He only fought when he was attacked. The sent constant armies after him
@nikeheader Mecca was not a city of men. It was city of men, women & children. He didn't tell them to say sorry. He gave them a choice of life or death as to whether they "SUBMIT" to his teachings. Don't lie and don't be blinded by Islamic watering down and twisting of the the facts
@Tsigano Who do you think the bomb in turkey war for? Muslims. Extremist kill muslims. The believe they are the only muslims, So they kill muslim women and children. Airports being on stand by are to do with terrorist not Regular peaceful muslims
@Tsigano So waging war doesnt make you not a christian not does doing any other sins. For it is through faith that you are saved according to the Christian doctrine not the law. A christian is what the Bible says a christian is not what you say and according to the Bible anyone who believes in Christ and accpets him as their savior is a christian. So a soldier can be a christian even though he kills because he is a sinner but still accpet christ. So stop will the Bullshit
@Tsigano Are you mad the Arab israeli conflict lasted more than a year. What the fuck are you talking about 6 days. They did defeat the Israeli hence why they signed the agreement to give 78% of Palestine back. Since then the Israelis have been slowly taking it back. Who do you think annexed the west bank. If Israel won then they would have 100 percent of the palestine. Where do you get your shit?
@Tsigano How fucked up are you. Muslims lived with the Jews in Palestine for 1000s of years. When did they persecute the Jews. The Arab israeli war was because of the UN saying they are going to divide the land which both Jews and Arabs who lived there protested. It was done by a terroist Israali party called the zionist who blew up the King David hotel and murdered british/jews and arabs. When the Jews attack the al aqsa mosque which is still under muslim rule. Then the muslims will attack
@Tsigano Plz show in hsitory where muslims persecuted Jews. Which means they were in Power and they forced jews to convert or killed them. Like the Christians did to muslims and jews during the Spanish Inquisition. You are full of shit
@nikeheader Muslims persecute all religions in the name of Jihad. That is the only reason the crusades were started. They were killing pilgrims who refuse to "submit". That is you history. I think that your trouble is that you believe in Islamic propaganda and hype over world news and history. Search the "6 day war" of 1967. When this happened the world was shocked at Israel's victory.
Islam extremists and terrorism is the center of all world news. You can even search it on youtube.
@Tsigano You want to know where it says angels are Spirits? Psalms 104:4 " Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire ",Hebrews 1: 7 " And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. ", Hebrews 1: 14 " Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? "
@Tsigano Yea keep talking shit aboout those guys speak the same message. If they did they would belong to the same church and secondly show me in history where the early christians taught that the Bible has 66 books. I can show you in the Book of Jude where Jesus' brother says that Jesus is not God and that there are some in power who wish to make it so. To Spread lies and corruption
@Tsigano Yes they were Born Agian Christians Just as the Deciples were and just as all Catholics are. The Bible never says that following a pope stop you from being christian not does it say persecuting Jews stops you from being a christian. So who are you to say Catholics are not Christian. You are a sunday worshiper and that is not what the Deciples did. But do i have the right to say you are not christian? Ofcourse not because the fundemental beliefs of christianity is belief in Jesus.
@nikeheader This is you Islam...search "wake up Europe the real face of islam Blood thirsty".
yet all you do is try hard to slander God's Christians. Christians as in the type of people doing the real work of God as listed a few posts back. People doing crusades of love and saving people. You place you are going is not Heaven. I am certain on this. You can lie to me but you are just lying to yourself. You preachers are sending you to hell and you are letting them. Wake up and face the truth
@Tsigano Yes they were born Again Christians. Just as all Catholics are born again Christians. The Bible never says that following a pope stops you from being christian not does it say that persecuting jews and muslims stops you from being christian. So who are you to say that Catholics are not Christian and you are. You are a sunday worshiper just like the Catholics. Jesus and his deciples worshiped on the Sabbath as did Paul. Do i have the right to say you are not christian.
@nikeheader Adrian Rogers, Evan Roberts, David Wilkinson, Chuck Swindoll, David Pawson, David Jeremiah, Demos Shakarian, Colin Urguart, John MacArthur, R. T. Kendall, Joshua Daniel all speak the same message. Christian churches like "Assemblies Of God" & "Shadow Mountain" all speak the same message. They speak the same message as the early Christians that first spread the Christian message. Time has changed nothing. This is the true Church of God and God's chosen people
@nikeheader The Bible says you can tell who is from God by what they produce and the life they walk. Each one of the men lists are true men of God and their fruit they produce speaks testimony of God's work. Compared to the preachers of hate and war that surface throughout Islam. Saladin was a great man in Muslim eyes. He was a just another man who spread Islam by the sword in the name of Jihad. Make up to the facts of what and how you so called religion of God is spread throughout.
@nikeheader Search "George Galloway threatens "10,000 dead bodies"" or "Muslims rampage London" .... This is your Islam. Hate..war ... aggression...war.... hate ... anger.. This is not of God. This is a dragon dressing as a lamb. The lamb means Holiness as in of peace & love. Islam tries to appear like this but deep inside even your heart u probably feel hate & an inner sense to spread Islam regardless of cost. U probably even feel a hate towards those that don't believe. That is Islam
@Tsigano Really muslim Nations attack ppl in the name of jihad? Could you please start naming the Muslim countries that are actively taking part in a war. Who do extremist kill more? Other muslims or christians. Start naming me the Islamic Nations who are at war. Plz show me. Seeing muslim extremist kill innocent muslims doesnt make Islam bad it makes them bad. So stop talking shit
@nikeheader lol. Don't get rattled. Ever since Muhammad led his first battle against the non-warring Mecca, Islam has been trying to conquer. First with Muhammad and then his next in commands. Don't even try to deny it. Even today there is problems with Islamic armies. Look in African countries like Somalia or in Indonesia. They aren't strong enough to take the west on in a fair fight so they try an underhanded one. Don't lie.
@Tsigano So first the Catholics were wrong and now they were right for killing muslims. Wow. Muslims didnt start the crusades asshole. It was the Catholics.
@nikeheader Who said Catholics were right for killing Muslims? Here you go again trying to twist and lie. I said the Crusades were started due to MUSLIMS killing pilgrims who refused to SUBMIT. I never said Catholic are right. Try and stop your lying as a way to twist things when faced about the truth of Islam.
@Tsigano You used the 6 day war an an example of propecy. Saying no one is going to deafet israe. If u actually knew history you would know the 6 day war was in 1967 and you would know the war ended in 1968 and the Arab nations won forcing israel to give back 70 percent of the land. Israel only started taking back land after the Arab nations surrounding Israel sold out to US and allow them to kill palestinians
@nikeheader Israel only gave back those lands due to pressure from the west. Don't lie. You say about the 6 day war search "1967 Arab-Israeli War - part 3/6" this shows the extent of what the Israelis are capable of. The even bought second hand tanks from scrap yards around the world which were a generation behind what the Egyptians had. This is what I mean when I say we can see that even though the odds are so great against them God holds back the day Israel will fall.
@Tsigano The News? When has the news been the absolute truth. Who do you think helps the Us fight terrorist? Muslim Nations. Is there any Islamic Nation that has supported Alqaeda.Name one and show me the video of their leader declaring it. Who suffers most if not muslims who gets killed the Most. Just because a minority attacks Muslims and that minority happen to claim Islam. Does that means All muslims are evil. You are an idiot to think so
@Tsigano Preachers? Lol what do you mistake Islam for. Muslims actually read the Quran themselves they dont need a preacher to spout lies every sunday from a pulpit. If i go to hell its because i didn't give up this wordly life. Not because of Islam. Islam is the truth the way and the light just as true christianity it. What you follow is a Sunday worshiping polytheistic religion that Say that God of Israel is not All powerful and that he has equals who happen to be his son and some spirit.
@nikeheader You are one of those people that follow the beast. You will go to hell. That is the truth according to scripture. This has never changed. Scripture hasn't changed. It was warned and prophesied before Islam even came.
@Tsigano Mohammed was exiled by the Pagans in Mecca on his return they attacked him because he was preaching to worship God. You obviously believe in worshiping Idols since you have a problem with this. He defeated them and he took over Arabia and shared the wealth to everyone who helped. This is the same thing the Israelites did.
@nikeheader Here is another true historical fact about Islam ---- "THE GREATEST CRIME OF ISLAM". Notice again we see Muslims "beheading".... Now look in the Bible at the description of the beast of the land. Notice he tries to appear as a lamb yet speaks like a dragon. Notice his followers think they believe in God and will kill in what they think is for God. Notice it even says the words "behead"
@Tsigano The cause of the Crusades was due to Alexius I's appeal to Pope Urban II for mercenaries to help him resist Muslim advances into territory of the Byzantine Empire. He started the war with the muslims and then asked the Pope for help. The Pope ended up doing alot more than he asked and ordered the armies to retake Jerusalem. So the Christian Armies marched to Jerusalem and when they arrived they killed all the women and children and any muslims or jews within the walls.
@Tsigano Ofcourse Christians Conquered rome. What do you think happened when they got out of control? It was because the were attacking pagans. They grew in numbers and waged war. Rome was going to split so Constantine made Christianity legal and tore down all the greek gods. Thats called conquering
@Tsigano Wow you are getting desperate lol. Slander? Lol. You are saying that europe is not majority Christian. You are saying the Nazi's werent christian. So because you do something bad means you aren't christian? I thought the whole point was that you are a sinner but as long as you accpet Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Thats what makes a christian. Christian revival? Anyone can claim that. Watching the news doesnt show you the truth about the world. If you believ that u are sad
@Tsigano Lets look at the news stories. Only 2 things. War in Iraq and War in Afghanistan. So how does this make muslims look bad? They get killed by extremist everyday. Then Christian Nations bomb killing civillians and only a few of the same extremist who target muslims. So how do you blame muslims for the violent acts of a minority who is against them. Would you blame the rich because the poor steal from and kill them? How are you going to blame the victims? Your comments show you are evil
@nikeheader Now lets look at the world list of terrorists ... Mostly all Muslim. Muslim countries can't fight against the west because they aren't prosperous enough to own an army that can compete. Instead they make internal wars in lesser able countries such as Somalia. Now lets look at the internal affairs of Afghanistan and consider the drug gangs making heroine and the criminal hordes causing chaos. Hardly a good example of an Islamic state. This is before the Americans enterred
@nikeheader You are desperate trying to pretend what a Christian is. The same way a Muslim is someone who follows the Quran, a Christian is someone who follows Christ. If someone doesn't follow the instructions of Muhammad, is he still a Muslim? Convenient you try to twist what a Christian is. In all honesty, you really are a joke. I'm sorry. I have to put up with your stupidity just to try and make Christians look bad. You are a joke.
@Tsigano So the Messiah isnt meant to have an army? So by what you are saying Jesus is not the Messiah because if you say he would never go to war then that means your Jesus does not fulfill the old testament prophecy or the prophecy of revelation. Wow good luck following the Devil because that exactly what he will say when he comes.
@nikeheader An army of guns or an army of saints all armed with testimony of their good deeds and martyred lifestyle. Just another petty argument that you try to trigger over yet again where try to twist things. It get a little boring after a while. Your great "Holy man" Muhammad slaughters and killed thousands. Notice Adam killed and God forbid him to build the temple.
@Tsigano You said to look up the word Christian and I did. A christian is anyone who's beliefs are related to Christ. They are in essence a follower of Christ. So by that defenition the Catholic church are Christians. Because they have a Pope this does not mean they are not following christ. Christ said to worship on the Sabbath. 95% of all christians worship on Sunday including you. Does this mean you are not christian? You may be going to hell but you are still christian.
@nikeheader Now you are telling me what Christians believe, lol. Try listening to the words and beliefs real Christian evangelists like Evan Roberts, David Wilkinson, David Pawson, Colin Urquhart or Adrian Rogers. They are all cross real Christian denominational but all preach from the same message and all believe the same message that was the message the very first Christians believed. Nothing needs to change here. The Church is the same as that is described through the book of Acts. Pope who?!
@Tsigano Wow the Irony Europe which is known for the bloddiest wars in History Genocide of Americas and Caribbean and Africa and Australia and India. Are saying Muslims are evil because they have too many kids lol. Yea racism at its best. What you gonna tell me to look up Niggers the real face of Jungle Bunnies? lol You are a racist pig!
@nikeheader genocide... What about what the Muslims did in the Armenian Genocide? That was genocide. What about is countries like Somalia & Sudan? What about in Indonesia? You seriously need to wake up to world news. Its no good watching lies from Islamic TV. Everyone knows Islamic TV is filled with false propaganda
@Tsigano You just sent me to watch a video of fake muslims. They are not muslims they are SHIA. They are the dumest most corrupt people in the world. They perfom ritual which are not in the Quran and they consider they're Imam's spit to be holy. They worship the Devil just like christians like you do and you shall burn in hell side by side
@nikeheader lol. what a convenient excuse. You should do your history better. Even Muhammad paid people that fought for him with a share of the plunder from those slaughtered in combat. Islam wasn't spread through love and peace. It was spread through war, rape and pillage. Don't pretend.
@Tsigano Mohammed fought in defense and he shared the wealth with everyone which is the same thing the Israelites did in the Bible. There is no istorical record of Mohammed attacking civillians or raping or pilaging. In fact when he conquered an Army and he travelled to their city Most of them became muslim. The others were slaves and were freed after several years. Those who converted to Islam were immediately free. Same as the Israelites. How about you stop bashing God's people
@Tsigano Who cant say tribal wars and blame Islam. Just as i can not use tribal war to blame Christianity. African Nation are Majority Islamic and Christian. They however kill each other over ethnicity and tribe. Look at Rwanda. Its 93% Christian. Am i to blame christianity for the genocide in 1994 which claimed the lives of 800,000 people. Ofocurse not so you can not blame islam for wars in Sudan or should i blame them for also being black because that where you are heading
@Tsigano No protestant preacher teaches anything about the Pope. All these men have in common are their protestant beliefs. There is no way of proving the preached what the early christians taught. The early christians however worshiped on the Sabbath which is something you Sunday worshipers never seem to do. So none of those men are the best christians. Its not your opinion that makes someone a christian its if they believe in Christ a serial killer could be christian
@Tsigano Wow you constantly prove you are a fucking idiot. Look at the EUROPOL report of terrorist. You will find that of the terrorist groups and or individuals only 0.4% of them are Islamist. Yea keep watching your fox news. But how about you actually look it up. Of the terrorist in the world 88.4% are seprtist, 8.3 % other 6.5% Left wing , 0.4 % Islamist. Just cause you hear shit on Fox doesnt mean it isnt real fuck up. Search Basque Sepratist in Spain and Corsican sepratist in France
Islam is the Best logical religion <3
verysmartboyz 1 month ago
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1.satan (devil) is black with red eyes.
devil is aka red-eye black dragon.
2.antichrist (devil's son) is white with red eyes.
remember the 'saw' movie clown jigsaw puppet with white gloves on a bike?
that's the antichrist.
goodinfotoknow 1 month ago
this is as stupid and illogical as the whole islam
islam is the deceit of satan
know this that islam has NOTHING to offer to people:
no salvation (you are not sure of your salvation unless you murder innocent people and die as martyrs),
no hope,
no love of god,
no relationship with God,
you are allah's slaves.
christians are saved, they are children of God and have relationship with God. islam is rituals and bows to the black stone. christiniaty is love relationship.
what a difference!!
Malwina77ful 4 months ago
muslims antichrist liars and decivers MATHEW 28,19-20 LORD JESUS CHRIST speaking to CHRISTIANS Apostoles GO AND MAKE ALL NATIONS MY DESCIPLES AND TEACH THEM TO KEEP ALL THAT I WOES COMMAND JOHN 20,24-29 Apostol Thomas speaking to CHRIST my LORD my GOD and JESUS CHRIST speak because you se me and you belive blessed are one who will not se me but they will belive When JESUS CHRIST speak I and my FATHER are ONE JESUS CHRIST speak IAM FATHER GOD GOD OF HOLY BIBLE IS FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT
mRwhite298 5 months ago
Only a simpleton would say that God can only be one thing if God wanted to be an ant He would say and it is so. If He wanted to be a planet He would say it and it is so, I cant, well I should say I do believe just how simplisticly this man speaks. And if you look at all the videos he seems to remember key chapters but lets all face it a photographic memory and university degree does not equate to wisdom, Id like to see him in a real debate notice he only alows questions & does most the talking
myhowmad 9 months ago
@myhowmad Then take issue with what he's saying and not 'the man'; otherwise you're no better than most of the talking heads on MSM "news", using empty ad hominems which are a fallacy.
The bible has been changed so many times it's irrelevant and of man, anyway; this deliberately misinterpreted doctrine, has been falsefied, at a minimum, since Constantine.
Good arguments can be made it was diddled when ASSEMBLED by the Levite priests from the BEGINNING of the Torah w/the "War Scroll".
UnoRaza 5 months ago
I LOVE the this guy twists things putting his own develish spin on things and OH about youre memory, my computor has a great memory but when u ask it something it gives u the truth untwisted. yes he has a great memory behold the human hard drive doesnt mean hes wise so what if christians cant recall from memory doenst mean they are wrong. Beetowen was deaf and what a composer was He. I see lawers doing the same thing when they defend murderers and rapists who does this man defend? The same kind
myhowmad 9 months ago
111, 222, 333, 444, 555, 666, 777 not 1 +1 +1 = 3. Man writing on paper but God wrote everything in himself and a lot of people recognized him as the word of god. God's creation is like what has been written. Humans can not see God but a symbol of his administration has declared it.
majackmr 9 months ago
This man keep talkling about MY FATHER without realising that he is telling the different between the Savior and ordinary man. Why he can't see it?
majackmr 9 months ago
That man asking the question looks like the mr bean ! LOL... funny christian
MultiLooksee 10 months ago
Dr Zakir Naik is right!
2+2=4 its never 5.
123footballers 11 months ago
He's lying. At the time of Moses the way to God was through animal sacrifices to cover sins, not through Moses. I didn't listen to any more past that. There is no reason to listen to more lies.
Zalahblue 11 months ago
Muhammad had many wives. some were other men's widows. One was a child. He said it was ok to plunder. He killed women and children and said it was ok to sleep with a slave's wife. He said God's wants to test people as to how harsh they can fight against those that don't believe in his writings (as that is all they are. No prophet or Godly man prior to him supports him). Jesus had no wives. He spoke words of forgiveness and repentance of the world. Jesus spoke the same message God gave to Jonah
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano exodus 21:7-11 female slaves and how to sell ur daughter. Leviticus 27:3-7 god sets the monetary value of a man always higher than that of a women. Deuteronomy 22:23-34 women who is raped by a foreigner must be stoned to death for not crying out loudly enough for help. that old test u going to say well no worries here what the new test say 1 Corinthians 11:3 the head of the women is man, meaning that in in the christian religion, women are to be subordinate to men.
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 Read Genesis about the flood and see that He flooded man due to the seed of the Nephilim (fallen angels) This is also covered in the book of Enoch. Read why God made the Jews a nation and sent them into Canaan. Because of the Rephaim. If a women is raped by a foreigner then she may carry a child with Rephaim genes. Whatever this seed was it must be bad. Read Genesis chapter 6. Particularly verses 4 & 5. Now compare Muhammad who murdered solely because people refuse to believe him
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano verses 5&6 how women in churches with uncovered head should have them shaved. accordIng to 1 timothy, women should dress modestly (2:9) & remain quiet, in submission to men 2:11-12. Look up urself Matthew 7:1-5 it violent i gave u the old test & new, i can go on & on with the facts what ur bible says even thou it written by a MAN. btw ellah & allah is the same even rabbi will agree matter fact chirstian Arab say Allah, but when u translate Aramaic to English it not same SCIENTIFIC FACT
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 lol. Matt &:1-5 speaks about not judging others unless you also want to be judged. Like I said to you on a previous post where you did the normal Muslim thing of talking of being violence to those that challenge you phony prophet false doctrines. "How can you expect God to forgive and show love to you when you sin against God if you do not show the same love and forgiveness to those that sin against you?
Tsigano 1 year ago
You try to use verses but miss your own sick directions. surah 4:34 The actual translation is "beat". Muslim men are to "beat" your women if they are not obedient.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@strongside200 go back 10 verses to Surah 4:24-> and read an accurate translation of these verses. Type "Muslims can have sex with Slaves who are married" on youtube to see a man who happily like to discuss the deeper understanding of the Quran. Lol. How is it that when you say Islam challanges Christianity that none of the Christians are known throughout the church? Why? Because it is cheap Muslim properganda. Islam relies on this tactic or it gets proved wrong every time. Try real Christians
Tsigano 1 year ago
@strongside200 Gen 17:9-22 But God said, "No, but Sarah ur wife will bear u a son, & u shall call his name Isaac; & I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant for his descendants after him. "As for Ishmael, I have heard u; behold, I will bless him, & will make him fruitful & will multiply him exceedingly He shall become the father of twelve princes, & I will make him a great nation.
---- bless him, multiply him & make a great nation but no where does it say for God!! ----
Tsigano 1 year ago
@strongside200 21"But My covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah will bear to u at this season next year." 22 When He finished talking with him, God went up from Abraham."
----- in plain scripture. Ishmael was not a part of God's plan. He was born out of doubt. Doubt is the work of Satan!! Muhammad is from Ishmael not Isaac. Muhammad persecutes the descendants of Isaac. Again the -work of Satan. Read plain scripture& work it out for urself ---
Tsigano 1 year ago
don't talk rubbish with your islamic propaganda. I've seen too much of it and I'm not naive enough to believe it. Islam relies on false propaganda. This video above is an example of it. Muhammad was a man of war who married many wives and plundered caravans saying God wills it. He married a girl will she was still a child whilst he was an old man. What more do you want?
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano u just get dumber dont u. First prophet Muhammad (pbph) they offer it to him when she was 9 but he was unconformable when she 16,17 that when he married her, everybody was doing it not just the middle east but all over, even in usa u can marry age 16 as long they get parent approval, in NY now the adult can have sex 17yrs, u talk about Muslim marry more than 1 wife, look at king david he had 400, even more interesting usa have highest divorce rate, i guess 1 wife is not good enough
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 lol. Nobody said u was a Christian. If Muhammad was uncomfatable about her then why did he marry her at all? Don't kid urself with deceitful propaganda. Try using a bit of common sense
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano i see someone here is slow when i ment i am not chirstian i meant i am not a lair read it again Krishna, first of all islam it does mention forgive, r u lost, the different we believe in self defense unlike u people dont, if i ask christian person do u believe in self defense i get the better odds & u comparing to pagan, pagan belief is bigger corrupted miss guided than the bible that is tampered change by clergy, here fact bible tampered & u completely dont know anything about Islam
strongside200 1 year ago
you speak about how to treat women type "Allah is Satan the Serpent" and see footage of how women should be treated (saying with sarcasm). I just clicked on it from the menu on the right.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano listen if some govt or person treat women less it got nothing to do with islam religion, look usa one of the highest incarceration in the world, u people treat women like slut, american women are very cheap all i have to do is get her drunk or buy her burger and she willing to open her leg, even worse how many christian man kill his children & his wife and at the end he shoot himself or father rape his daughter i know alot of your redneck in south in to that sibling shit, cereal killer
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 blah blah blah.. more nonsense. Read the verses and teaches of Muhammad in the Quran and then compare them to the verses and teaching of Jesus in the Bible. The two are not comparable. You never see Jesus preaching war and hate. Quite the opposite. Compare the life of Jesus to that of Muhammad and end of story.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano ARE U SERIOUS U NEED TO READ QURAN THROWING SOME ACCUSATION & I JUSTIFY THAT TO U & LIED ON surah 47:4, IT HAD NOTHING WHAT UR TALKING ABOUT I KNEW U LOOK AT THE WRONG INFORMATION AND MISS GUIDED ALL U CHRISTIAN DO THE SAME SHIT, NO WONDER MUSLIM SCHOLAR BEAT CHRISTIAN SCOLAR GUYS IN DEBATE, THAT WHY PEOPLE AHMAND DEEDAT,ZAKIAR, AND OTHERS DEMOLISH U GUYS. WHAT HAPPEN TO UR MINSTERS THEY GO TO JAIL FOR STEALING FROM CHARITY, GOING BLINK BLINK AND SPEND IT ON HOOKERS PRAISE THE LORD LOL
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 u justified nothing to me. U just lied that the verse means something else which if anyone chooses to read it they'll plainly see it doesn't
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano let me tell you one thing i will never ever lie about my religion i am not christian, i gave you the real chapter number stop playing ur self man i wish can see you face to face and show you the book and after smack you upside ur head because ur ignorant, listen like i said before we will prevail, you keep insulting and making joke on Islam and that how people leave Christianity because it b.s but it all good haha
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 lol. Smack me up? what like you great "Allah" ask of you? lol. Peace and love? Islam is far from Godly. The spirit of muslims like yourself even proves this. Jesus taught me to turn the other cheak. To forgive and help even my enemies. Even a pagan can forgive and help a friend, but to show love and help and forgive an enemy take real Godliness. If you cannot help, forgive or show any love to others then why should God forgive and love you? Face facts. The Quran is not of God
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano here the another fact every time christian scholar challenge Muslim scholar we beat you guys, here the fact quran tell detail scientific fact, Even science scholar all over the world agree to that look it up! un like the chirstian believe the world is only 6000 yrs old lol, here the another fact quran never been tampered for over 1400yrs unlike u people destroy it few hundred after Jesus died maybe god bless him
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 absolute rubbish. Q. do you believe in the Torah?
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano you ask me that question before and i am going to answer it again in some part we do believe in torah and real reason we dont believe 100% because the Torah has been tampered you have couple of them first Aliyah Maftir Hagbaha and Gelila ete orthdox and none just like the bible we believe some part, well alot parts. But how can you change god words, that why you have one quran and 1.5 bil Muslim people is the only religion believe in one book, arab,chinese,white,spanish ete
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 lol. Fact: In recent years they have discovered that there are qords lidden within the Torah and set intervals. i.e. In genesis get the first 'T'. Then count 40 letters and you get an 'o' then 40 letters and you get an 'r' then 40 letters and you get a 'h' = Torh (Torah in Jewish). The same thing happens in Exodus ...... The Jews of ancient times would have known this info but it has got forgotten over time only to be rediscovered in recent years.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@strongside200 What this does however prove is that not one single letter has changed. Therefore you phoney religion tries to lie about the Torah.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano lol dude i just gave you some names on the torah, my man go TALK any rabbi they will tell you there is few torah are little different, just google it matter fact.
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 There is one Torah. It is called the Masoretic text. Yet you show Muslims just post lies and ignorant slander
Tsigano 1 year ago
@strongside200 How is it Muhammad has no prophets or anyone else through history to support him? Why? Because he is self made and a fake. His message that he spread was murder to anyone who doesn't accept him as the real deal or his writings. His life was nothing but malicious and lust driven. He even received refuge from a Christian king when he took his early followers out of Mecca. Yet doesn't honor that. I wonder why? Because his life is a web of deception
Tsigano 1 year ago
@strongside200 The Bible speaks of two beast. One is from Abraham (but not Isaac - the child of God's promise) and the other is from the nations of the world. One is the Roman Empire and the other is Islam. Both are workers of the devil. Both will be taking their followers into hades with them. Both spread war and slander to the real people of God.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@strongside200 The Bible says that in the end times the followers of the beast will be killing the true followers of God for what they think will be for God. It says the saints will be martyred for "God's Word". It even says the followers of the beast will "behead (strike at the neck of)" those that don't worship it. Funny how this was written first yet Islam tries to say it is corrupted. Why? Because it doesn't want its people to know the truth
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano i believe 1000% u never sat down with imam before if u did u would never ask these silly question with silly theory, u know quran came after the bible bc ur bible was tampered back than& today. why u dont ask urself that? how can jesus he be god when in the bible he was praying Matthew 26:39. he bow his head to the floor. GOD DOES NOT PRAY! u wanna talk about violent i can give u whole load of rated triple R Deuteronomy 25:11-12 women save her husband life cut her hand off with no pity
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 The entire book of deuteromony is a record of the laws given to the Jews when coming into the land of canaan. It is not a message of laws to the church. You should do your research. Unlike verses in the Quran written by Muhammad where it actually tells the reader to commit such acts. Stop lying and twisting verses.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@strongside200 The whole point of the laws given to the Jews when coming out of Egypt. It was a strict list of rules amongst themselves as sin in that part of the world was so perverse. God took the Jew out of Egypt but He also had to get the ways of Egypt out of the Jew. There was also Rephaim in the land at that time which was a wicked seed in mankind that was introduced via fallen angels taking the wives of men. Do your research then read the whole of the Bible. God was cleansing this seed.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@strongside200 The Bible says that a false prophet and a false Jesus will come at the end of the world and appear to bring peace for the last seven years. It will make peace with Israel for 3 1/2 yrs then it will attack for the last 31/2 yrs. Funny how Islam is waiting for a Mahdi (end time teacher) and Jesus to bring peace for the last seven years. Funny that the Bible forewarned of this 500yrs before Muhammad made his phony religion
Tsigano 1 year ago
@strongside200 Fact: The Torah is only wrote in one language which has carefully ('superstitiously' if thats the correct word) handed down through the generations. All other versions in any other language are just "translations" of the Bible. They aren't the actual BIble. Just translations. To truly understand God's word we musto understand the original wording as mistakes can be made through translation.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@strongside200 it doesn't even come close
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano After 911 many american people converted to Islam because they were curious and open minded and they know there religion is tampered& corrupted. The christian clergy change the words in the bible every 5 or 10 years, you know big sin is that changing god word? quran been around 1400 years not even one LETTER have been changed, thank god were the fastest converter religion in the world and we will prevail! salam
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 I need to read the Quran lol. Which verse. The one slandering a race of people, beat my wife, its OK to sleep with the wife of my slave or the one telling me to make war with anyone who doesn't believe Muhammad is from God?
Tsigano 1 year ago
"strike the neck of (behead) the infidel" because he doesn't believe in the Muhammad. Allah could do it himself but wants to test you by how harsh you can be to others (laughable verse) is hardly what I call Godly. (Surah 47:4). That or verses like sharing out the plunder from who you attack (Surah 8:41)... the list goes on. Thats without seriously questioning the life & acts of Muhammad like plundering caravans, his bloody war campaigns & his many wives (including one that was still a child).
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano lol you are fool surah 47:4 strike them who disbelieve you only at war as self defense 47:4] If you encounter (in war) those who disbelieve, you may strike the necks. If you take them as captives you may set them free or ransom them, until the war ends. Had GOD willed, He could have granted you victory, without war. But He thus tests you by one another. As for those who get killed in the cause of GOD, He will never put their sacrifice to waste... like i said stop going to those b.s w.s
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 lol. Like I said.... It includes you. Look at your tone, lol. You prove who's spirit you preach. You look like a lamb (Jesus / Christianity) but you speak like a dragon (satan). Then you walk around trying to look like men of God saying "peace be with you", lol. I have been through all this. scroll back
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano lol look at my tone? i look like a lamb? wow u see me threw ur computer, yeah that very bright feedback u had there, do me favor when u come saying something about Koran, come correctly not the accusation like u have, i am speaking to ignorant person who is making fool of himself, dont know what he talking about, #2 We dont believe fully with the Torah because it been tampered just like the bible. we believe it belong to the jews but not to the Zionist, even some jews dont like them
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 u believe in the Torah? Then how come God says to Abraham that He will fulfill His promise through Isaac & makes it very clear it is not the lineage of Ishmael? Its no good going on about nonsense trying to twist verses that read clear enough for anyone to understand. There aren't just one or two verses but many to cross reference and they all read very clear.
Tsigano 1 year ago
Respond to this video... surah 8:41 And know that out of all the booty that ye may acquire (IN WAR), a fifth share is assigned to Allah,- and to the Apostle, and to near relatives, orphans, the needy, and the wayfarer,- if ye do believe in Allah and in the revelation We sent down to Our servant on the Day of Testing,- the Day of the meeting of the two forces. For Allah hath power over all things. DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN MR TSIGNANO? if you dont someone need to guide u
strongside200 1 year ago
@Tsigano should i now say what ur bible say about violent it alot worse than lies you said, i will not lie to you like how you lie to me, i will give you word by word, should i tell you and show you what it said if women doesnt cover head it said shave her head off, should i show you if you work on sabbath day hang them, should i show you where it say if women save her husband on a battle it say cut her hand off? i can go on and on, I HAVE THE REAL BIBLE IN MY HOUSE AND I WILL NOT LIE TO U
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 If u read the Bible and actually understand it then you know the law of Moses was written for the Jews and not the reader. Try reading the prophets who prophesy God's words or the words and teachings of Jesus.
Tsigano 1 year ago
Did Mohammed walk on water? Did Mohammed heal the sick, make blind men see, bring a dead man back to life,? Did Mohammed ascend to heaven in front of his followers eyes? Did Mohammed say to love those who hate you?
Ldybug376 1 year ago
@dangarasd again u make no real sense. In the Bible the scriptures r very accurate. Jesus taught love to one another and peace. Muhammad spread Islam through war. Its not hard.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano oh so Muhammad spread Islam through war? so you read the quran and everything
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 yes I've read the Quran. What would you like to know? I also study history and facts.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano you tell me what you know and dont give me that crap i am reading on website that is unknown i am talking about you have read the actually the book with papers.. but i tell you this ur bible i have so many violent it make texas chain saw rated PG, so you can cut that crap ur bible tought love because i can give you whole bunch of list what bible say and done and what it believe and i have the regional bible and i have the chapter numbers and know so much about ur rule u dont know
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 yawn... I have a Quran which i was given in an Islamic book shop in East London so I don't need to recite information off websites as I have read the book myself. I also read it from an open mind only to see how wicked and corrupt it is. As well as using my Quran, I also go on to Muslim sites to get information and cross reference and to help understand the Arabic. Muslims get boring as all they do is get aggressive and lie over facts. It gets repetitive. The facts still remain.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano i ask you what you about quran, give me infos and chapters, what so wicked about it, i didnt ask you some dude on corner is aggressive or some person bored you
strongside200 1 year ago
@strongside200 scroll back and you have all your answers. I have even given all the Surahs. I am not talking about "some dude in the corner". I am talking about the tone and attitude that a majority of Moslems post with. This may surprise you but this includes yourself.
Tsigano 1 year ago
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strongside200 1 year ago
@dangarasd U shout when u type. What u say is pointless. scroll back and see how I quote direct from the Quran verses that are evil. All Islam does is rely on propaganda about the west being "evil". This has absolutely nothing to with Christianity or what in the real scriptures. All u do is try to distract from the truth. scroll back a few posts and u'll even see I said u'll do this. It's all u got. nothing of any real fact
Tsigano 1 year ago
Matthew 5:10-12 "Blessed r those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed r u when people insult u & persecute u, & falsely say all kinds of evil against u because of Me.
Rejoice and be glad, for ur reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before u.
Tsigano 1 year ago
Matt 5:2-9 "He opened His mouth and began to teach them, saying,
Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed r those who mourn, for they shall b comforted.
Blessed r the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed r those who hunger & thirst for righteousness, for they shall b satisfied.
Blessed r the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
Blessed r the pure in heart, for they shall see God.
Blessed r the peacemakers, for they shall b called sons of God."
Tsigano 1 year ago
@dangarasd U have nothing of any intelligence to say as you don't actually know anything of real worth other than daft slanderous remarks with no reality behind them. REV 20: 4 "Then I saw thrones, & they sat on them, & judgment was given to them & I saw the souls of those who had been "BEHEADED" because of their testimony of Jesus & because of the word of God (THE BIBLE), & those who had not worshiped the beast (2ND BEAST = ISLAM!!) or his image,"
Tsigano 1 year ago
@dangarasd lies, lies & more lies. You lie to steer away from the truth. Truth like the verses from the Quran that are actually there. That and the horrific lifestyle of great Islamic leaders such as Muhammad. Don't try steering away from the truth with empty claims
Tsigano 1 year ago
@dangarasd LOL. How is it time & time again we see Muslims openly use rude & perverse words within their sentences, yet see no wrong in it? In the Bible it tells us not to do such a thing.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@dangarasd REV 20: 4 "Then I saw thrones, & they sat on them, and judgment was given to them & I saw the souls of those who had been "BEHEADED" because of their testimony of Jesus & because of the word of God, & those who had not worshiped the beast (2ND BEAST = ISLAM!!) or his image,"
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano lets look at some more verses from the "UNHOLY" Quran... Surah 2:193 "AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL PERSECUTION IS NO MORE, AND RELIGION IS FOR ALLAH" & again in Surah 8:39 "AND FIGHT THEM UNTIL PERSECUTION IS NO MORE, AND RELIGION IS ALL FOR ALLAH". How about the classic Surah 61:4 "ALLAH LOVES THEM WHO BATTLE FOR HIS CAUSE IN RANKS, AS IF THEY WERE A SOLID STRUCTURE" The list is massive. They are direct instruction to the reader.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano Funny how Christianity wasn't spread through war and invasion yet Islam was. Jesus lived a blameless life and taught love and forgiveness and not to live by the sword. Muhammad attacked & plundered innocent caravans, built an army to attack neighboring countries and regions and at the point of his death he had about 21 wives (one of which he took as wife whilst she was just 7 yrs old).
Tsigano 1 year ago
@dangarasd ISLAM IS WAITING FOR THE TRUE IMAM(AL MAHDI)AND SON OF MARRY ISA(JESUS PBUH) = Yes. & if u really knew anything about Christianity & the true Scripture of God, then u would know that the Bible prophesies that in the last 7 yrs a false prophet / teacher & a false Christ will come - Funny how this is coincidentally the reverse of what u see them as. TRY KNOWING THE TRUE PROPHECY FROM GOD ACTUALLY SAYS.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@dangarasd All u know is Islamic propaganda. U make lies about what u don't even know. Anyone can make daft claims. It is the Quran which lies. Work it out. It isn't hard. Muhammad's life was a serious question for a start. Someone that set himself up as the "true" prophet of God. He attacked caravans to make his money. He made war. Married many wives. One which was only 7 yrs old. Of course he has to try to lies that the true scriptures are corrupt. Otherwise they prove him wrong. FACE FACTS
Tsigano 1 year ago
@dangarasd Notice that the Bible predicts the last seven yrs on earth with a false teacher and a false Christ. Notice Islam is waiting for an end time teacher (Mahdi) and an end time Jesus ---- all not coincidence.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@dangarasd Read the description of the second beast. It will be given authority. It gain authority over the whole Earth in what people think is for God (showing it is a religion). It has two horn meaning it is divided into two sects (shiite & Sunni). Its followers "behead" Christians in what they think is for God. The symbols used in the Bible ( the Greek symbols for 666) are also symbols used to represent Islam today (no coincidence).
Tsigano 1 year ago
@dangarasd Read the description of the beast and we see it is made of iron & clay - powerful yet had venerable times), It looses some of it provinces (to Islam), the world saying "who can touch them" - This is your European nations. Notice a small horn grows up who is allowed to utter blasphemies - cross reference with Revelations and we find this is the whore (the pope / Vatican / catholicism). Notice God says to His people to come from them in the end times. We then get a second beast - Islam.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@dangarasd look in Daniel verse 7. Then we see who the first beast in Revelations is. Dqaniel is telling the king of the Babylonian empire that a series of empire will take his empire. This was prophecy that has been already fulfilled (An example of how amazingly exact and accurate the Bible is - God is gr8). The first was the Persians, the second was the Greeks (under Alexander) and the final one is Rome. Now cross reference this with Revelations and we get the same beast
Tsigano 1 year ago
sorry I just noticed there are two posters. I wrote as though I am writing to one. Sorry. I was supposed to meet some at 2pm. I am 40 mins late. I will b back later and will explain the two Beast with the scriptures.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@dangarasd As u know so little about the "uncorrupted" scriptures of the true God in Heaven, I will happily share some insight. Firstly the book is not written for the non-believer. Those that seek God from a truly honest heart will find Him., Not from the study of words & self righteousness. God does not want to reveal himself to the proud at heart. You won't find God through a library if you still have a proud spirit from Satan.
Ur reading for today is Daniel, Chapter 7. I will reveal later
Tsigano 1 year ago
@dangarasd Magog was written by Jews with Jewish understanding. Try searching old knowledge that the Jews had passed down to themselves. Today this does not exist to the same content but we have writing by Jews that did. Search Flavius Josephus. He was a Roman of Jewish lineage whom was raised in knowledge of Jewish text. He write Roman literature based on Jewish knowledge of Magog.
Tsigano 1 year ago
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Tsigano 1 year ago
Galatians 4:28And you brethren, like Isaac, are children of promise. 29But as at that time he who was born according to the flesh persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, so it is now also. 30But what does the Scripture say? "CAST OUT THE BONDWOMAN (Hagar) AND HER SON (Ishmael), FOR THE SON OF THE BONDWOMAN SHALL NOT BE AN HEIR WITH THE SON OF THE FREE WOMAN (Sarah)." 31So then, brethren, we are not children of a bondwoman, but of the free woman.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano You must understand the nature of Jesus. He is the Word of God. This is his title. Which means when he speaks he speaks God's words. He is the only prophet like this. All he said was what God said. Jesus was before Abraham as he was an Angel in heaven. When Prophets speak they are not speaking their words when they are prophecying.So when tthey say things like I am the Lord if you were right there with them you would be like.No you arent and probaly get angry with them. Misunderstanding
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader If you are going to make lies up then at least try to support them with scripture.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano I wanted to give you an example of youur prophecy. The Spanish Inquisition. Where the Christians forced muslims and jews to convert or leave. Resulting in torture and murder of muslims and jews together. It seems the only one who persecutes the children of israel are the christians
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader Notice you say "Christian nation". This is because you know they are not Christians but European nations that claim to follow Christianity. You know the truth on this. You are just being irresponsible in trying to spread false knowledge in the point to justify Islam. Like we have said already... A Christian is someone who follows the teachings of Jesus & lives Christ like. Jesus never went to war with swords of physical harm.He fought a battle of love & change via words & by example.
Tsigano 1 year ago
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nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano The First christians to Cannonize the Bible were not Catholic and there wasnt even a pope which existed within the Catholic church at the time. Catholics didnt follow a pope nor did they worship on Sunday back then. So there involvement is irrelevant. The First recording of early christians canon had way more than 66 books even had more than Catholics. They did not even contain revelation. So tell me where did you find this 66 book bible is history
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader It was not pressure from the west. The west acknowledged Israel as a state the entire palestine. They gave it back because the lost in 1948 and signed a deal with the Arab Nations. Why would they sign a peace treaty giving back 70% if the land if it was because of the west. If the west had anything to do with it. Israel would just give it back not sign a deal with the Arabs who were still attacking everyday. The west has never pressured Israel beyond sayin so in public.
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano You name 7 church's in revelations who church history does not show that the had a Biblical Canon. It is widely accepted by scholars that many of the letter Paul wrote to them have been lost to history. They were never known to have a Biblical Canon since they rarely worked together. Plz show me in history truth to your statement and give me a way to find it so i can verify. For your sake you are telling the truth for God dislikes lies
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader If you believe in the one God of Moses and Abraham that does make you a muslim now. The Quran says there are christians who are muslim and Jews who are muslim. Its not called Quranism or Mohhamedism. It is called Islam. Submission to God's will. The Quran does not say it is better. It says muslims should follow the Scripture of the true Bible. Just because something came first does not make it better. Should i not read the new testament because it came after the old?
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano For you to say That a christian is only someone who is accepted by the Majority as a Christians means that by your logic the Catholic Church are the best and most true form of christianity since it has 1 billion people on its side. You are definitely an idiot. To give me an example of a church trying to make love sex which is a translation and not doctrinal interpretations is weak. There are orders of the catholic church whuch believe Gabriel is Holy Sprit
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano I said christian nation because it is an entire nation which accpets Christianity. A christian is anyone who believes that God sent Jesus. It says this in the Bible. Jesus was perfect or atleast close to it. So if you are saying that to be christian you must be sinless then i guess no one is a christian. Jesus never waged war on earth while he was here but the messiah is meant to wage war. This is in the old testament. Revelation says Jesus will wage war when he returns
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader A Christian is someone who follows Christ. That is what it means Look the word up or break the word down. Its not hard - "Christ"-ian. You aren't even constructive. You just repetitively twist truth and lie. Its about time you opened your eyes to the truth of world news and politics. Look at the many youngster seeking homes and asylum in the security and freedom west yet go on rampages burning flags and holding up banners of hate. What is all this about.? More denial for you?
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano You are definitely crazy. The Bible does say you can tell something by the fruit it produces. Christianity Conquered Rome then spread to the rest of the World. Murdering everyone and everything in its path. From the American Indians and South American Natives. To Africa and India and China. Lets face it. Which Nations are always in a war. Christian Nations. Who starts it? Christians
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader There you go again back on your same road. When you can't argue you try to twist what a Christian is. Christianity conquered Rome. ... What a Liar. I think you are trying to twist historical truths out of desperation. Romans martyred the disciples of Jesus and the early Christians. Then when Christianity grew out of control they made their own version of it putting their own man in control (the pope). Christians don't follow popes, they follow Christ.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano Muslims rampaging through london? Wow. How about you search United Stated Christian country Drop 2 nuclear bombs on Japanese Civillians. How about you search the Nazi who were christians. How about you search KKK who are christians. Im not blaming all christians because the Quran says there are many good among the evil. But it seems the Most evil ppl seem to be christian
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader blah, blah, blah Christians nations... blah,blah, blah... Desperation to try and slander what a Christian is again. Don't be desperate. Just face facts about Islam. Try searching Christian revival or Christian transformations. Try looking at what real Christianity is about instead of lying. Then search your history books and search the news and see the horrific acts that spread Islam
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano Saladin. Did ot start the war and he Allowed everyone within the city safe passage and those who wanted to stay stayed. He was respected all throughout europe. He allowed Christians and Jews to pray as they wanted. Unlike the Christians who murdered everyone when they took the city. Finally your true colour you defend the Catholics. Saladin Won because God is on the side of the believers. Mohammed never lost a battle and he faced way more powerful armies just like the Israelites
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader you lie again. I defend the Catholics?? Where have I said this?? Nice try at deceitful slander. I said they attacked due to Muslims attacks. I never said they were right. I never said I support Catholicism. I have however constantly said I follow Jesus and deny anything that call itself Christian yet act contrary to the teaching of Jesus. Jesus was not a leader in war.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@nikeheader I have listed Christianity, yet you do not acknowledge this yet try the same thing you have often tried - lie
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano Are you crazy? Mohammed fought Arabians who weren't fighting? Where is this in history? It says that he was on the run for many years because they ordered him to be killed. How the hell is that Non-waring. The war in Somalia is not about religion it is about Nationalism and Tribalism. Dont get it twisted. The same is about Indonesia. The only Armies who actually go to attack other Nations are Christian Armies such as Nato and US. Did bush not say God told him to go to middle east?
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader You try to deny Islam is one big war machine... You are a joke in disguise
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano If Islam is a big war machine and all muslims are evil and want to brainwash hate. Then why dont any muslim nations just wage war on everyone else. I mean there are 1 billion muslims. If muslims hate everyone why do terrorist attack muslims. America got hurt for the first time in 2001. Muslims have been killed daily by extremist. So plz show me where muslims brainwash and kill people.
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader don't twist and lie again. I never said every Muslim is evil. I said Islam is. There is a difference. Christians aren't supposed to hate anybody as this Jesus never tells us to treat anybody harshly or with hate. He tells us to love even our enemies. Muslims are just people who are blinded by Satan & the "spirit of the air".
Tsigano 1 year ago
@nikeheader "where muslims brainwash and kill people" --- OMG, lol. Somalia, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey, Central Asia, America, UK, Sweden, Chechnya. Look in every country on the planet where Islam is present. u don't honestly need me to show u this. Only last week in England a girl killed an innocent man due to Islamic brainwashing. It was in the papers. This isn't a 1-off but is becoming a sign of the times. So-called British citizens making bombs or going off to fight against their army.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano So when you get exiled and a reward is given for your head. That isnt self defense. What you think that Mohammed and 100 followers just started going around killing people? How did he win every time. If not with God's help. If he just went into a city and started killing how would he defeat their armies. He was always on the run just as Moses was and He only fought when he was attacked. The sent constant armies after him
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader Mecca was not a city of men. It was city of men, women & children. He didn't tell them to say sorry. He gave them a choice of life or death as to whether they "SUBMIT" to his teachings. Don't lie and don't be blinded by Islamic watering down and twisting of the the facts
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano Who do you think the bomb in turkey war for? Muslims. Extremist kill muslims. The believe they are the only muslims, So they kill muslim women and children. Airports being on stand by are to do with terrorist not Regular peaceful muslims
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano So waging war doesnt make you not a christian not does doing any other sins. For it is through faith that you are saved according to the Christian doctrine not the law. A christian is what the Bible says a christian is not what you say and according to the Bible anyone who believes in Christ and accpets him as their savior is a christian. So a soldier can be a christian even though he kills because he is a sinner but still accpet christ. So stop will the Bullshit
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano Are you mad the Arab israeli conflict lasted more than a year. What the fuck are you talking about 6 days. They did defeat the Israeli hence why they signed the agreement to give 78% of Palestine back. Since then the Israelis have been slowly taking it back. Who do you think annexed the west bank. If Israel won then they would have 100 percent of the palestine. Where do you get your shit?
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano How fucked up are you. Muslims lived with the Jews in Palestine for 1000s of years. When did they persecute the Jews. The Arab israeli war was because of the UN saying they are going to divide the land which both Jews and Arabs who lived there protested. It was done by a terroist Israali party called the zionist who blew up the King David hotel and murdered british/jews and arabs. When the Jews attack the al aqsa mosque which is still under muslim rule. Then the muslims will attack
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano Plz show in hsitory where muslims persecuted Jews. Which means they were in Power and they forced jews to convert or killed them. Like the Christians did to muslims and jews during the Spanish Inquisition. You are full of shit
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader Muslims persecute all religions in the name of Jihad. That is the only reason the crusades were started. They were killing pilgrims who refuse to "submit". That is you history. I think that your trouble is that you believe in Islamic propaganda and hype over world news and history. Search the "6 day war" of 1967. When this happened the world was shocked at Israel's victory.
Islam extremists and terrorism is the center of all world news. You can even search it on youtube.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano You want to know where it says angels are Spirits? Psalms 104:4 " Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire ",Hebrews 1: 7 " And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. ", Hebrews 1: 14 " Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? "
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano Yea keep talking shit aboout those guys speak the same message. If they did they would belong to the same church and secondly show me in history where the early christians taught that the Bible has 66 books. I can show you in the Book of Jude where Jesus' brother says that Jesus is not God and that there are some in power who wish to make it so. To Spread lies and corruption
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano Yes they were Born Agian Christians Just as the Deciples were and just as all Catholics are. The Bible never says that following a pope stop you from being christian not does it say persecuting Jews stops you from being a christian. So who are you to say Catholics are not Christian. You are a sunday worshiper and that is not what the Deciples did. But do i have the right to say you are not christian? Ofcourse not because the fundemental beliefs of christianity is belief in Jesus.
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader This is you Islam...search "wake up Europe the real face of islam Blood thirsty".
yet all you do is try hard to slander God's Christians. Christians as in the type of people doing the real work of God as listed a few posts back. People doing crusades of love and saving people. You place you are going is not Heaven. I am certain on this. You can lie to me but you are just lying to yourself. You preachers are sending you to hell and you are letting them. Wake up and face the truth
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano Yes they were born Again Christians. Just as all Catholics are born again Christians. The Bible never says that following a pope stops you from being christian not does it say that persecuting jews and muslims stops you from being christian. So who are you to say that Catholics are not Christian and you are. You are a sunday worshiper just like the Catholics. Jesus and his deciples worshiped on the Sabbath as did Paul. Do i have the right to say you are not christian.
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader Adrian Rogers, Evan Roberts, David Wilkinson, Chuck Swindoll, David Pawson, David Jeremiah, Demos Shakarian, Colin Urguart, John MacArthur, R. T. Kendall, Joshua Daniel all speak the same message. Christian churches like "Assemblies Of God" & "Shadow Mountain" all speak the same message. They speak the same message as the early Christians that first spread the Christian message. Time has changed nothing. This is the true Church of God and God's chosen people
Tsigano 1 year ago
@nikeheader The Bible says you can tell who is from God by what they produce and the life they walk. Each one of the men lists are true men of God and their fruit they produce speaks testimony of God's work. Compared to the preachers of hate and war that surface throughout Islam. Saladin was a great man in Muslim eyes. He was a just another man who spread Islam by the sword in the name of Jihad. Make up to the facts of what and how you so called religion of God is spread throughout.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@nikeheader Search "George Galloway threatens "10,000 dead bodies"" or "Muslims rampage London" .... This is your Islam. Hate..war ... aggression...war.... hate ... anger.. This is not of God. This is a dragon dressing as a lamb. The lamb means Holiness as in of peace & love. Islam tries to appear like this but deep inside even your heart u probably feel hate & an inner sense to spread Islam regardless of cost. U probably even feel a hate towards those that don't believe. That is Islam
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano Really muslim Nations attack ppl in the name of jihad? Could you please start naming the Muslim countries that are actively taking part in a war. Who do extremist kill more? Other muslims or christians. Start naming me the Islamic Nations who are at war. Plz show me. Seeing muslim extremist kill innocent muslims doesnt make Islam bad it makes them bad. So stop talking shit
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader lol. Don't get rattled. Ever since Muhammad led his first battle against the non-warring Mecca, Islam has been trying to conquer. First with Muhammad and then his next in commands. Don't even try to deny it. Even today there is problems with Islamic armies. Look in African countries like Somalia or in Indonesia. They aren't strong enough to take the west on in a fair fight so they try an underhanded one. Don't lie.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@nikeheader This is you Islam...search "wake up Europe the real face of islam Blood thirsty".
I notice you chose to ignore this.....!!!
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano So first the Catholics were wrong and now they were right for killing muslims. Wow. Muslims didnt start the crusades asshole. It was the Catholics.
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader Who said Catholics were right for killing Muslims? Here you go again trying to twist and lie. I said the Crusades were started due to MUSLIMS killing pilgrims who refused to SUBMIT. I never said Catholic are right. Try and stop your lying as a way to twist things when faced about the truth of Islam.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano You used the 6 day war an an example of propecy. Saying no one is going to deafet israe. If u actually knew history you would know the 6 day war was in 1967 and you would know the war ended in 1968 and the Arab nations won forcing israel to give back 70 percent of the land. Israel only started taking back land after the Arab nations surrounding Israel sold out to US and allow them to kill palestinians
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader Israel only gave back those lands due to pressure from the west. Don't lie. You say about the 6 day war search "1967 Arab-Israeli War - part 3/6" this shows the extent of what the Israelis are capable of. The even bought second hand tanks from scrap yards around the world which were a generation behind what the Egyptians had. This is what I mean when I say we can see that even though the odds are so great against them God holds back the day Israel will fall.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano The News? When has the news been the absolute truth. Who do you think helps the Us fight terrorist? Muslim Nations. Is there any Islamic Nation that has supported Alqaeda.Name one and show me the video of their leader declaring it. Who suffers most if not muslims who gets killed the Most. Just because a minority attacks Muslims and that minority happen to claim Islam. Does that means All muslims are evil. You are an idiot to think so
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano Preachers? Lol what do you mistake Islam for. Muslims actually read the Quran themselves they dont need a preacher to spout lies every sunday from a pulpit. If i go to hell its because i didn't give up this wordly life. Not because of Islam. Islam is the truth the way and the light just as true christianity it. What you follow is a Sunday worshiping polytheistic religion that Say that God of Israel is not All powerful and that he has equals who happen to be his son and some spirit.
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader You are one of those people that follow the beast. You will go to hell. That is the truth according to scripture. This has never changed. Scripture hasn't changed. It was warned and prophesied before Islam even came.
Tsigano 1 year ago
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@Tsigano That video you sent is about Shia muslims. They are evil and will burn in hell with you.
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano Mohammed was exiled by the Pagans in Mecca on his return they attacked him because he was preaching to worship God. You obviously believe in worshiping Idols since you have a problem with this. He defeated them and he took over Arabia and shared the wealth to everyone who helped. This is the same thing the Israelites did.
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader Here is another true historical fact about Islam ---- "THE GREATEST CRIME OF ISLAM". Notice again we see Muslims "beheading".... Now look in the Bible at the description of the beast of the land. Notice he tries to appear as a lamb yet speaks like a dragon. Notice his followers think they believe in God and will kill in what they think is for God. Notice it even says the words "behead"
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano The cause of the Crusades was due to Alexius I's appeal to Pope Urban II for mercenaries to help him resist Muslim advances into territory of the Byzantine Empire. He started the war with the muslims and then asked the Pope for help. The Pope ended up doing alot more than he asked and ordered the armies to retake Jerusalem. So the Christian Armies marched to Jerusalem and when they arrived they killed all the women and children and any muslims or jews within the walls.
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano Ofcourse Christians Conquered rome. What do you think happened when they got out of control? It was because the were attacking pagans. They grew in numbers and waged war. Rome was going to split so Constantine made Christianity legal and tore down all the greek gods. Thats called conquering
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano Wow you are getting desperate lol. Slander? Lol. You are saying that europe is not majority Christian. You are saying the Nazi's werent christian. So because you do something bad means you aren't christian? I thought the whole point was that you are a sinner but as long as you accpet Jesus as your Lord and Savior. Thats what makes a christian. Christian revival? Anyone can claim that. Watching the news doesnt show you the truth about the world. If you believ that u are sad
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano Lets look at the news stories. Only 2 things. War in Iraq and War in Afghanistan. So how does this make muslims look bad? They get killed by extremist everyday. Then Christian Nations bomb killing civillians and only a few of the same extremist who target muslims. So how do you blame muslims for the violent acts of a minority who is against them. Would you blame the rich because the poor steal from and kill them? How are you going to blame the victims? Your comments show you are evil
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader Now lets look at the world list of terrorists ... Mostly all Muslim. Muslim countries can't fight against the west because they aren't prosperous enough to own an army that can compete. Instead they make internal wars in lesser able countries such as Somalia. Now lets look at the internal affairs of Afghanistan and consider the drug gangs making heroine and the criminal hordes causing chaos. Hardly a good example of an Islamic state. This is before the Americans enterred
Tsigano 1 year ago
@nikeheader You are desperate trying to pretend what a Christian is. The same way a Muslim is someone who follows the Quran, a Christian is someone who follows Christ. If someone doesn't follow the instructions of Muhammad, is he still a Muslim? Convenient you try to twist what a Christian is. In all honesty, you really are a joke. I'm sorry. I have to put up with your stupidity just to try and make Christians look bad. You are a joke.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano So the Messiah isnt meant to have an army? So by what you are saying Jesus is not the Messiah because if you say he would never go to war then that means your Jesus does not fulfill the old testament prophecy or the prophecy of revelation. Wow good luck following the Devil because that exactly what he will say when he comes.
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader An army of guns or an army of saints all armed with testimony of their good deeds and martyred lifestyle. Just another petty argument that you try to trigger over yet again where try to twist things. It get a little boring after a while. Your great "Holy man" Muhammad slaughters and killed thousands. Notice Adam killed and God forbid him to build the temple.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano You said to look up the word Christian and I did. A christian is anyone who's beliefs are related to Christ. They are in essence a follower of Christ. So by that defenition the Catholic church are Christians. Because they have a Pope this does not mean they are not following christ. Christ said to worship on the Sabbath. 95% of all christians worship on Sunday including you. Does this mean you are not christian? You may be going to hell but you are still christian.
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader Now you are telling me what Christians believe, lol. Try listening to the words and beliefs real Christian evangelists like Evan Roberts, David Wilkinson, David Pawson, Colin Urquhart or Adrian Rogers. They are all cross real Christian denominational but all preach from the same message and all believe the same message that was the message the very first Christians believed. Nothing needs to change here. The Church is the same as that is described through the book of Acts. Pope who?!
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano Wow the Irony Europe which is known for the bloddiest wars in History Genocide of Americas and Caribbean and Africa and Australia and India. Are saying Muslims are evil because they have too many kids lol. Yea racism at its best. What you gonna tell me to look up Niggers the real face of Jungle Bunnies? lol You are a racist pig!
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader genocide... What about what the Muslims did in the Armenian Genocide? That was genocide. What about is countries like Somalia & Sudan? What about in Indonesia? You seriously need to wake up to world news. Its no good watching lies from Islamic TV. Everyone knows Islamic TV is filled with false propaganda
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano You just sent me to watch a video of fake muslims. They are not muslims they are SHIA. They are the dumest most corrupt people in the world. They perfom ritual which are not in the Quran and they consider they're Imam's spit to be holy. They worship the Devil just like christians like you do and you shall burn in hell side by side
nikeheader 1 year ago
@nikeheader lol. what a convenient excuse. You should do your history better. Even Muhammad paid people that fought for him with a share of the plunder from those slaughtered in combat. Islam wasn't spread through love and peace. It was spread through war, rape and pillage. Don't pretend.
Tsigano 1 year ago
@Tsigano Mohammed fought in defense and he shared the wealth with everyone which is the same thing the Israelites did in the Bible. There is no istorical record of Mohammed attacking civillians or raping or pilaging. In fact when he conquered an Army and he travelled to their city Most of them became muslim. The others were slaves and were freed after several years. Those who converted to Islam were immediately free. Same as the Israelites. How about you stop bashing God's people
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano Who cant say tribal wars and blame Islam. Just as i can not use tribal war to blame Christianity. African Nation are Majority Islamic and Christian. They however kill each other over ethnicity and tribe. Look at Rwanda. Its 93% Christian. Am i to blame christianity for the genocide in 1994 which claimed the lives of 800,000 people. Ofocurse not so you can not blame islam for wars in Sudan or should i blame them for also being black because that where you are heading
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano No protestant preacher teaches anything about the Pope. All these men have in common are their protestant beliefs. There is no way of proving the preached what the early christians taught. The early christians however worshiped on the Sabbath which is something you Sunday worshipers never seem to do. So none of those men are the best christians. Its not your opinion that makes someone a christian its if they believe in Christ a serial killer could be christian
nikeheader 1 year ago
@Tsigano Wow you constantly prove you are a fucking idiot. Look at the EUROPOL report of terrorist. You will find that of the terrorist groups and or individuals only 0.4% of them are Islamist. Yea keep watching your fox news. But how about you actually look it up. Of the terrorist in the world 88.4% are seprtist, 8.3 % other 6.5% Left wing , 0.4 % Islamist. Just cause you hear shit on Fox doesnt mean it isnt real fuck up. Search Basque Sepratist in Spain and Corsican sepratist in France
nikeheader 1 year ago