@mrfresh1121 There is work everywhere is your not a complete dumbass.. Well wait there are PLENTY of jobs for you. Sometimes you have to swallow your pride America and do not what you want to do but what you have to do. Not sit on your ass on youtube and say there is no work.. get off your ass and go look. And Starbux should not be a long term career choice guy in video..cry me a river....
Starbucks is a revolving door for people looking for a quick job. You don't make a career out of working behind the counter at Starbucks, and if you try to, you have no ambition. You want good benefits and good pay, you have to either do something brilliant, start a company ... or get a career in something. Starbucks hires engineers and growers of course. That's their career, and those are the people who need the union -- not the cash operators.
20hrs a week is not much. Did you have a second job? If not then you should either work more hrs or get a job that you like. 20hrs a week is like 2 1/2 days. Another alternative and probably the best is to unionize.
If you missed your hours by 20 hours, why didn't you tap into your vacation hours that every Starbucks barista earns? If you worked there for a year, at 20 hours a week, there's no reason why you shouldn't have had AT LEAST 40 hours of vacation available to you. By not having utilized this perk of Starbucks, you only discredit your discrediting of Starbucks.
wow you work 20hrs and you can get the insurance!!!!! Here you don't get shit when you're only part time and more and more companies are making sure you don't get 40hrs a week or that you never get to the end of your "training" time (that's usually 3 months, 6 for some companies) so that you will never get on the health care insurance cuz technicaly you're not a regular employee.
My wife works at Starbucks and receives full coverage Health Care for our Family , and she only has to work 20 hrs a week! She purposely has her availability for up too 60 hrs a week but she averages only 22-25 hrs. She does this to make it easier for her manager to make weekly schedules that allow everyone to get their needed hours. Sounds like this guy just needs to open up his availability.
USA is a third world country in some regards. One of those is health care, another is labour market laws.
I understand how this twisted system can thrive though, with opnions like: It's ok for Sbucks to force me to work every hour of the day, through my fear of getting sick. Because if I do they'll cut my insurance and/or fire me.
@Aboikos - "Legalized slavery"? Are you really that fucked in the head? Are you really that stupid? Are you so fucked in the head that you cannot understand that slaves DO NOT GET PAID? Of course not. It's impossible for you to understand this. When someone is as indoctrinated as you are they're beyond stupid. Their so fucked in the head they cannot tell the difference between freedom and tyranny. You in Denmark will fall to Islam because you're indoctrinated, politically correct morons.
PS--should Starbucks have to pay for this guys' lack of planning? I don't think so. Is there maybe a wider problem with health care in our country that has nothing to do with Starbucks? Possibly.
Serioulsy? Does this guy know what he's saying? Most company's (almost all) make you work full-time or 40 HOURS a week in order to get health care coverage. To find a place that gives health care coverage to part-time workers is a rare find. I would agree that there is a problem with store managers cutting people's hours (as an employee of Sbuxs myself) but knowing that I feel people should plan ahead and work as much as they can so they don't get into the situation this guys is talking about.
@theyasin33 Well if you think so then you should move to Europe. America was founded on the idea that if you work hard enough you can achieve your dreams. Was it a lie? Or has the government governed us into a place where there are no longer opportunities to make those dreams come true? Just throwing the ideas out there...I'm undecided on those points but in the mean time I'm working hard to make it.
Hmmmm.... Lots of Starbucks cointel on here trying to save their asses. To those who say find a different job if you don't like it, I say the same to you when your lord and savior Starbucks finally falls on its face. Anyone with so little human ingenuity as to whore themselves to the very type of entities that are destroying this country gets exactly what they deserve when the shit hits the fan. Be smart and get out while you can.
Every employee also has the right to pick up hours at any other store in the United States! If you are anywhere close to losing your benefits, get up and make an effort to WORK. Its that simple.
Starbucks is a rare company that offers the same benefits to part time employees as full time. Starbucks also offers sick time! If this person would have used his sick time for the time he was actually sick, he would be fine. If you are not willing to work a steady 20 hours a week, why would you expect any company to invest in a benefits package for you? Notice this employee says he was maintaining "nearly exactly" 20 hours a week!?
@alleybot It could lower your average by 20 hours. When 240 hours are required in a quarter (12 or 13 weeks) it could lower it by more than an hour, eliminating eligibility for benefits.
he would be able to keep his insurance if he requested the sick days when he was sick which he obviously failed to do. this sounds like half truths here.
Well I have been with starbucks for six years and have never had a problem maintaining benefits. Plus it depends on your manager. They have full control of your hrs. If you have good availability you should maintain 20 hrs a week with no problem at all.
@silver03ga yeah i expect this dude to say "oh and btw - i was only available 3 days a week. well duh they cant fill your hours then. i never had a problem either.
@Fatal616 Yes, but when I worked there, people with OPEN AVAILABILITY still got hours reduced---and even called other stores--CONSTANTLY! Still cut hours, and had "NOW HIRING" sign. Message to "shift supervisors" (who were hourly workers--university student-- who still got less than 20 hours/week): "We have a LABOR issue! Run tight shifts! Send people home early when possible!" Of course, they refused to! But still, EVERYONE got 14.5 or fewer hours per week! And then 10 hours, then 14..
I think more what they should be talking about is how the raise the insurance prices from $40 a paycheck to $90! Or the fact that the coverage is BS! My boyfriend and his two sisters work for Starbucks and I did. If they need to go the hospital it cost the $200 for the ER. I am an uninsured student who can get the same benefit. Also his sister pays $140 for a medication that cost $150 without insurance and $100 for students. Let's just say that this company is falling faster and faster!
So... let me get this straight. Starbucks does a terrible job of offering health insurance.. and you're asking us to push for government legislation to change the way Starbucks offer's Starbuck's Health Insurance?
This makes no sense to me. Why does the government need to step into the equation? If you aren't happy with your employer, quit.... it's that simple... and we don't have to grant more power to the government. You just quit, walk away, find something else.
well, it isn't actually limited to Starbucks. I've had this happen to me (I guess it's worse?) twice before, where a company did not offer me enough hours to even have health insurance. When I confronted my employer about this in my last job, she skirted the question and just said they couldn't offer any more hours.
They don't mind you walking away, either- there's always people who are desperate for a job, and that makes us all a little more desperate. Dunno what to do about it, though.
ive been a partner for 4 years now and have worked in multiple stores and would like to say this is the complete opposite of my experience with the system. never have i seen any of my managers purposefully cut partner hours for them not to receive benefits, nor have i heard of other managers doing so. almost everyone in my store qualifies for benefits. the few who do not only work weekends. i'm not saying what this guy is saying didn't happen. just looks like cherry picking to me.
you could have picked up more hours from other stores the previous weeks and you would have been good. you need 240 hours each quarter to keep benefits, if you would have worked a little more at your store and surrounding stores, then you would have been able to make up for the lost hours. dont complain when not that many part time jobs barely get benefits anyways.
@Fatal616 Yes--but hardly anyone gets it--and in some counties, esp. college towns and high cost-of-living towns, no one (save manager and asst. manager) get them). The catch is Starbucks advertises full health-care to "Eligible" part-timers. (That's why it's not false advertising). But it is still deceptive! (but legal and accurate!)
I work 60 Hours a week in the summer Doing construction to pay for college, and 25 Hours a week when I'm in college (Not like this lazy hippy who doesn't even work 20 hours a week) , I don't have health insurance and I really don't care. I hate these lazy whores.
Why should a company provide health insurance for someone who's not generating enough profit to make it worthwhile?
this video is bullshit! i work for starbucks and they NEVER cut your hours the week before the quarter is over. this video is full of lies and incorrect information.
If you're employed for Starbucks you're allowed to work at any of the 10,000 plus Starbucks in the country. So that's 10,000 stores you could have called to ask for more hours . . . in Manhattan alone there are almost 200 Starbucks.
Also, what kind of planning is it to wait until the last week to get to your required number of hours?
pay attention, it's not a required number..it's an average. you have to average a certain number of hours per week, so if they cut your hours in the last week, you no longer have that average. why don't people actually listen?!!
Its 240 hours per quarter one needs to obtain to qualify for insurance. You have to exceed an average of 20 hours per week. So again, I restate . . . it is irresponsible to wait until the last week to get to ones required 20 hour per week avg. when you're allowed to pick up hours at any of the 10,000 stores in the U.S.
plus, if they only give you a certain number of hours per week it's not really up to you...and maybe they tried to pick up shifts at other stores but they couldn't b/c a) they were all full b) the bosses wouldn't give them the hours b/c the company does not want people to get the 20/week average....for someone with 'obama' in his/her screen name you'd think he/she'd be more progressive.
Re: tbwobbly. You used the word 'maybe,' a lot in your comment. I am not telling you maybe, . . . I worked as a barista for Starbucks and was there for almost 5 years. You are allowed to call up any of the 10,000 Starbucks in the country (e.g. 200 in Manhattan alone) and ask for hours. And prior to the recession, stores were always in need of help . . . I consistently got 40 hours a week. Starbucks is one of the first companies to offer health insurance for part-time employees. They are leaders.
health care in the usa will never be fullfilling never cause either you pay more and more money just to bulid up it until you get sick then theres other small minor things like going to the right hospital for the right insurance and so forth or dying is the alternative cause you cant afford to pay it
"when the worlds wounds wont heal it will slowly die reason cause it couldnt pay the bill"
I believe in universal healthcare but there should be exclusions; for example, if you've ever been convicted of a felony then you don't get any coverage. Plus, the government needs to invest more money in medical scholarships and better facilities so we have adequate manpower and resources.
maybe if starbucks GAVE them more then 20 hours a week they would work more than 20 hours a week. if you actually paid attention to what they are saying, you would know they WANT more hours, this is just all Starbucks will give them b/c they want to keep people from having insurance.
it's even wore now b/c the new policy is that employees have to be available 80 hours a week or so to even keep their jobs (not get laid off), yet they have no guaranteed hours. So, they can't get another job and lose their availability, but they can't be sure they'll be able to pay their bills cause they don't actually know how much they'll work.
I don't know where you got those numbers from but it's untrue. I work for Starbucks and I've yet to have my hours cut before any quarter. I've worked 35-40 hours per week for most of the 9 years I've worked there. There was a period where I had to cut down to twenty hours and that was my choice, not theirs.
This is becoming very common. A nation of part time workers without real access to benefits. Industry just externalizes its costs to society and now this guy, who doesn't have insurance owes thousands to health care providers he may never be able to pay back and has no coverage. Where is all the "choice" the health insurance companies say people have?
This is just silly. boo hoo. You worked 20 hours a week, you're lucky you had an option to get healthcare. What this guy is saying is true for just about every company. I've worked in a few chain retail stores in my day, trust me, they were no different. What do you do when you are unhappy at a crap job? You go elsewhere.
Yet this wreched company has the audacity to send tons of money to Planned Parenthood to help the execute children. Yeah, that there is priorities in the right place.
Miserable company with a terrible product.
Just stop supporting them, spend your money elsewhere.
it's SOOO easy to pick up shifts at neighboring stores, to make up for your 20 hours.
and the whole part where managers "cut hours towards the end of the quarter" is total BS. managers have NO incentive WHATSOEVER to do anything like that. it won't reflect on their P&L, it won't affect their review... nothing...
also, if he had used his vacation hours during his sickness, that would still count towards the required hours to get benefits.
just because it is a certain way in your area does not mean that it is that way everywhere. for all you know other stores already had too much staff in his area. maybe the managers were encouraged to cut hours by their higher-ups. maybe he didn't have vacation time to use. don't assume that just because it is one way for you that it is the same for everyone else.
Dude only works 20 hours in a coffee shop. Does he think this is a real job? If he worked full-time like most people, he'd have had less trouble. He worked so close to the edge, took a week off and got burned.
Sorry, but I don't feel many people will care for a film about an evil corporation that nobody gives a sh*t about. In Canada they have no share, compared with Tim Horton's. If Timmy's was up to no good, you'd have something.
Also, Starbucks coffee tastes like the dirt it was grown in.
or starbucks could just not pay over $10 million dollars a new ad campaign and $40 million on a private jet and put that toward their workers instead...oh, and don't forget all the money they spend on the union-busting lawyers.
union?? what the SEIU? That's not a union, that's a joke.
The SEIU want to allow illegals to take the place of American workers, that's not a union. Beside $10 million isn't even close to what's needed to cover every employee.
They can do like the rest of America, if they want health care, they can pay for it and stop begging the world to pay their way through life.
you obviously have not done any research on this. The starbucks union is not part of SEIU (a union which i have tons of problems with as well, though for different reasons than yourself), it is part of the IWW, a very different union. plus, news-flash, most undocumented immigrants work in jobs that Americans don't want to work in..AND they are often jobs that have a surplus of positions, and survive b/c of a large amount of unorganized, mobile, inexpensive labor, like agriculture.
the system that you seem to love so much, capitalism, not only creates but thrives on so-called "illegal" immigration by exploiting and repressing large areas of the world in order to keep goods and labor cheap. this creates poor people, who then move to the exploiter's country to get better jobs, where they continue to be used as cheap, mobile labor, something that capitalism would be hard-pressed to survive without.
oh, and real unions fight for all workers, not just Americans.
Its hard for me to truly realize the gravity of the topic of this video, I cant even imagine having that concern. I'm in Canada and healthcare insurance is pretty much mandatory, in that you required to be covered. How much you earn determines how much it costs you. If your impoverished, then its free. Unfortunately there are a few people here that dont realize that and go without until they learn otherwise.
I will support this issue and stop buying Starbucks products here in Canada.
Sukmi: Thx for the boycott even tho your country cares about its citizens enough to ins you; Kudos go out to you. I boycotted 2 when learning of treatment of employees. DH bought me a Silvia/Rocky espres/grinder so I make espresso @ home; I bought him a French Press since he don't like lattes/cappas. He drinks reg. I roast my beans to keep fresh ones then grind 4 his French Press coffee & grind again for my latte/cappas @ diff grinds of course. espresso is really fine whereas FP is course grind.
"trouble getting 20 hours avg" is not the norm, unless their availability doesn't fit the peak of the store's business hours and/or the store is overstaffed. I'm not saying this former partner is not telling the truth. I am saying he (or, more accurately, the editor of this video) is distorting the reality of the great majority of partners in the store. & so I am speaking from my experience, which is just as relevant as his.
"distorting reality" implies intent. how do you know it is not the norm? maybe it isn't in your store or your area, but have you done a national survey of sbux employees? if it isn't hard to get the 20 hours, wen why do only 43% of sbux employees, INCLUDING OFFICE STAFF AND MANAGEMENT, even QUALIFY for insurance? seems a little shady to me...and that's verses 47% at Wal-mart
Evidence? None. Instead you retreat into a baseless question which only serves to distract the issue. If you're incapable of answering a question then don't ask it. It's a distraction and a lie.
It's called a rhetorical question...key word in there is "rhetoric." And it actually is evidence, because it is implicit in the fact that the question laid out, that less than half of Starbucks employees qualify for their insurance plan. If you use a little bit of deductive reasoning, you can then conclude that since a worker needs to average 20 hours to qualify for insurance, then less than half of workers average 20 hours!!! If you need a definition for any of those big words let me know.
As a 4 year starbucks partner who has paid his starbucks health care premium since he started, I can safely say it has been well worth it. I never had an issue getting my 20 hour avg each week, from my home store. When I was sick as a first year barista and had to miss a couple of weeks at work, I was instructed by my store manager to fill out some simple paperwork so that my medical leave would be approved and my QTD hours would be protected. This former partner is distorting reality.
or his reality could just be different from yours. i've talked to plenty of starbucks employees who have trouble getting 20 hours avg, but also workers who don't. just because his experience is different from yours does not mean that he is "distorting reality"
at my job we get punished for missing more than 5 days in a 90 day period, whether sick or not. i've known coworkers who had to go to part time just to get the time off to get better.
The attack on Starbucks has begun. This is the infamous whine of the entitled. First the Unions are attacking Starbucks because Baristas aren't getting paid enough. Now it's health care.
If you're all such brilliant business folks and economists then open up a competing coffee chain. We'd love to see "Communist Coffee" fail miserably then we'll all have a good laugh. The fact is you lazy union workers want something for nothing. The free lunch doesn't work, we tried it with subprime loans...
To hell with the capitalists. What imbeclies like you don't understand is the proletariat own you. The instant you have no workers/customers, the instant you have NO PROFIT.
WORKING MEN OF ALL COUNTRIES UNITE!
Demand your share of the profit. You all helped make it!
Another know-nothing communist engaging in tantrum politics. You think you can control customers? LOLZ People are attracted by quality and affordability, not slogans.
Demand your share?! Do you know how stupid this sounds? You're demanding your share from the customer. You're taking THEIR money. Go ahead and try that crap on a customer. Once they see the price they'll go to a different store. Winco is cheaper than Albertson's - better business, no unions. BTW - Albertson's is GOoB >=)
You don't think people are attracted to brand names, and everyone makes choices based on 'quality and affordability'? You better stay out of the fashion business! I love my starbucks coffee, because it is harsh and strong, but it isn't the most affordable---and people tell me it isn't the best either....And there's a whole bunch of people who enjoy walking around showing folks they paid 2-3 bucks for a cup of coffee... Nothing wrong with it. You're mischaracterizing how some shop and choose.
nativio: you have obviously never had a decent GOOD cup of espresso if you think $tarbuck$ coffee tastes good. They burn the freaking beans! I don't go to $tarbuck$ b/c I can make an excellent cup of espresso using a Rancillio Silvia espresso machine & Rocky burr grinder at home using fresh roasted (not burnt) coffee beans picked & purchased under fair-trade & fair-wages. BTW, my espresso doesn't cost nearly as much as yours & it tastes like real coffee, not burnt sludge in water.
Of course, I assume that some critics of the idea of any socialized, government run system have no problem with the cost of a four billion dollar aircraft carrier being 'put on the backs of others' by the US government.
The guy you're working for shouldn't have to provide for your health insurance. It's absurd, he's running a business, not a charity. The government should. Like it does in any normal developed country. bravenewfilms, you're fighting the wrong battle. Of course Starbucks sucks, but if you want to win a fight make sure you make good arguments. Lousy arguments,like this guy who looks he's doing ok, complaining about insurance in a 20hr/week job is absurd compared to abuses other workers go through.
health is a right, I don;t care what anyone says. The issue here is that the business offers it yet doesn't pull throughon its promise and uses shady tactics to snub out their employees. Employees need health insurance through work because private insurance is way too fucking expensive. Its not right
Private health insurance rates show what health care really costs. If you can't afford it, you are economically productive enough to have it. That said, our government pays for any emergency health care needs you have. Why do you think you should get everything off of the backs of other productive people?
Then wy do thousands of people die every year from very treatable diseases, but they get turned away because they can't pay, and teh government won't help?
The belief that people get shit off of the backs of others is bullshit. Absolute bullshit. You make it sound like they deserve to die, and live miserable lives....and if you believe that, you are an evil sonofabitch and my arguement is done with you
"Then wy do thousands of people die every year from very treatable diseases"
Can you show me evidence of this? How would government health care fix that? In nations with government health care the services are rationed. Why do you think people come to the USA when they can denied in their own country?
We live in a world of limited resources.
"The belief that people get shit off of the backs of others is bullshit"
--You can say it is bs...but it is the reality of what happens.
So...when a hospital charges a patient 791 dollars for a stocking to improve blood circulation, which can be gotten over the internet for 12 dollars, that is 'what health care really costs'? Or charging that same patient 1000 to get a copy of his own records is 'what health care really costs'?
Or the fact that the maximum cap of benefits has been the same as its been since the 1970s, a million dollars
btw, those figures came from a story in that notorious, leftist rag, the Wall Street Journal.
"So...when a hospital charges a patient 791 dollars for a stocking to improve blood circulation, which can be gotten over the internet for 12 dollars, that is 'what health care really costs'?"
That is messed up. Anybody who over charges like that will be exposed in the press and they will have to come in line with reality or get no business. The system we have right now doesn't offer much competition and I fear that competition is going to future be reduced.
Actually, overcharging in hospitals is epidemic, on par with the old cliche of the $3.000 toilet seat that the pentagon paid for. Look into how much an aspirin pill, one pill, can cost in a hospital.
Hospitals, when it comes to emergency care, really are not up for competition. You get hit by a car in a catastrophic car accident, you're really in no shape to dictate where the ambulance takes you. Or if pass out at work or have a seizure, you're going to end up in the closest place possible.
I would love to life in a free market fantasy land where hospitals compete with each other, offering better and cheaper (though still safe and worthwhile service) for normal and emergency procedures and issues (hospitals do tend to compete in terms of specialty fields like certain cancer research and treatment, heart replacement and facial transplants though), but it is a sellers market. But hell, at this point I would merely settle for a cable option other than Time Warner in my area...
Ah---How is this a response to what I said regarding health care, hospitals and insurance companies? I sorta agree with you with this, but the problem is not expecting baristas to be paid '100/hr', (a silly straw dog argument, how about a living wage of 15 and hour) the problem is we live in a society in the US where the weight of health care providing was put on employers rather than the government back in the 40s.
no ones saying working in a coffee shop makes you a highly skilled worker, but even unskilled workers need healthcare. i live in the uk and everyone gets total coverage for a fraction of the price people would pay in the us. you guys are getting ripped off. i assume your american because you think getting medical treatment is something that needs to be earned.
MW18: You hit the nail on the head. I can't believe here in the USA brainwashed citizens believe health care should be a luxury vs a right. When did we put a price tag on living? If it's illegal to commit suicide or participate in assisted suicide then our gov't is breaking the law by NOT providing health care as is done in other countries such as Canada, the UK, & every other top nation in the world. In the instance of health care, I'm ashamed of my country & it's brainwashed-sect citizens.
First learn what the fuck socialism means then talk... just think please why millions of people complain about US's healthcare??? Why?? Why????? then travel the world, world I mean, it doesn't mean travel around the states....The world...You will be amazed how that social healthcare works, way better my friend.
Most of those millions are immigrants and illegals.
If they don't like it, they can move right back where they came from.
Hell they moved to get away from the socialism bullshit, then turn around and want the US to join the some bullshit they left. The world knows how the social healthcare works. Tax 50% of your income and get the shittiest health care known. Turned away because your to fat or to old ect...
Unless you are a Native American they your roots are immigrant. All of our families came on the boat. Mayflower or Slave ship! And If you really don't like socialism then get ride of Social Security, Unemployment benifits, Medicare and rest they are all social programs they we pay into.
I ain't a supporter of any fucking abreviation mate...Besides cheap self confidence which surprisingly based on ignorance is making me smile. Have you ever traveled???? 50% of your income ur talking about, are you joking? However immigrants ur talking about, what are you? Or what do you think you are? No offence however learn some stuff before tagging people as NWO or other shit that u just learned from the idiot media you guys have over there... Please just for once, research.
Oh so you don't believe in the NWO, but yet support it.
Now here kids is what you call a brainwash person.
Has seen many leaders speak of the NWO and still refues to believe it.
Today obama goes to the other side of the world to try and unit another part of the world into the NWO. but yet he is to young to understand why. He believes it just a media myth. Yet Obama and many others have spoke of the New World Order.
kids...you are a hopeless case my friend. I don't believe in anybody's order neither Obama, nor whoever you name. Take off your horseblinders and just try to, at least understand that I just have an opinion about something doesn't work... I don't support any puppet or talk on behalf of anybody. I agree with you about Obama. They all talk about NWO however they don't know exactly what is wrong with the system that needs to be revised, which is sad. To you, DO NOT TAG PEOPLE.
I was talking about you tagging me!...but anyways. I know what NWO is but thanks for explaining. I am just saying that healthcare is a right, to me of course. There are people who cannot afford to have healthcare. Coz there are some serious deep loopholes in this system. I see where you are coming from and I respect your point of view. In my opinion, government has to provide affordable healthcare... Especially when I think how advanced U.S. is in hightech. U.S. has to lead as an example.
The US government was never put in place to cover the people with health care. other wise the founding father would have wrote it in the the constitution.
yes it is a right, a right that if you want it, you can buy it. Just like a car. Everyone needs a car but it's up to you to buy one. Don't come to the nation to buy you one. same as for a home everyone needs one, ect...
The governmnet roll has need to buy what you couyld have bougt yourself.
Only if I'm the dictator will I live in a truly fascist state...I've dealt with monkeys that "practice medicine" and they are accredited within the health care structure...no thanks.
I couldn't agree more. In this country, I think a lot of liberals are afraid to go the whole nine yards with this issue, because they are afraid of being labeled a Communist. I think any statement that alludes to their being individuals who are more worthy of being healthy than others should be seen as criminal. Why are we allowing anyone to die at our doorsteps, simply because they are in a different tax bracket, or have nothing at all?
I agree. But let me state my point again. Do not fight the wrong battles if you want to win. It's not about companies paying for healthcare, of course they will try to cheat, of course they will not employ pregnant women, etc. it's not in their financial interest to support sick people! It's not that Starbucks is run by evil people, it's just trying to make a profit. (it's not a moral excuse though) Laws should be there to prevent the abuse of workers, government should provide cheap insurance.
Health insurance. What a despicable concept in the first place. And when its in the hands of your employer it becomes pathetic. A parody of the American system.
People make me so mad who want more benefits for working so little. If you want better benefits, go to school and learn a skill which pays more then pooring a cup of COFFEE does!!! After that, try working more then 20 hrs a week. Jesus, this isn't rocket science, people.
Unfortunately, with our economy a higher education doesn't always guarantee a well paying job. The employee said that Starbucks would deliberately cut people's hours at the end of the quarter to prevent them from paying health benefits. If that is their policy, then it should be highlighted so people would really know what they can expect from their employer.
Yes, a job is a job. But working under 20 hours does not entitle you to health care benefits. If you want to work more, get a full time job! If you can find one, get more skills. That's all I'm saying.
I agree with Valleynews. The US unemployment rate has skyrocketed. It'll take years before the US is back on its feet again. Pouring a cup of coffee is a job. Work. Your channel states that you are a CEO. Based on your comment, I'd say you fuck your employees over just like Starbucks.
Actually, my employees are extremely happy, thank you very much! Just because I advocate the advancement of ones education doesn't mean I "fuck my employees". I can tell, you're probably a union worker who wants something for nothing.
Everyone's a union worker where I live. Unions are a part of life here. The largest party in my country is called the Workers Party. And last time I checked, my country tops the UN HDI, the number of USD millionaires per capita in the world, and so on and so forth. You, an employer, comments on a video such as this, exposing your true feelings on the issue of worker rights. Education was not your point, asshole, you were sitting at your desk, complaining about your own staff.
"Is there any country in the world where you would get health insurance when you are even a full time employee??!?!?" Yeah, like the top 50 industrialized nations.. except for the US of course.
Yes that is it , I worked @ a club store and they MADE SURE ...because I knew the girl in the office ..for 30 yrs ...and she told me they cut hrs all the time and hire all part timers and OLD People on Medicare/Medicade They do not like to give health benefits any-where any time ...its a game to BEG and comply like a slave with your employer since the NIXON yrs !
What about FMLA? That should have given you a right to be off work if you're sick, up to 60 days (even though when I had to use mine, my position was eliminated when I came back).
Under the purposed HR 676, Your covered . If you get sick and cant maintain your Employee Hourly minimum to Qualify for there Full Time Benefit package, part time, quit or fired, your covered.
An added Benefit that is being overlooked by State Government and Employers the result of a National Single Payer Health Insurance will reduced Workman's Comp. Insurance because a Huge cost of the Premium goes to the Health treatment and rehabilitation of a hurt worker.
... most employers don't offer part time workers health benefits. period.
If your's do, they're already being generous. If they don't and you think they should, find a new job.
Show this video to 90% of the part time workers out there and they'd scoff at this guy's greediness.
I didn't have health insurance when I was working 35 hours a week. Just under the 40 I need to qualify for "full time". Guess what I did? I found a new job.
I hate Starbucks and what it represents,but what have we come to?Why can't you get another job?If you dont like the healthcarecoverage/treatment get another damn job.I did it,it can be done.Maybe no one knows this but you can look for another job while u still have a job.Umay not find 1 right away,but keep plugging and you will get it done.Uare not indebted to stay with a company forever,its still legal to change jobs.For now,who knows about next week.We may have to pay a job changing tax, lol.
@mrfresh1121 There is work everywhere is your not a complete dumbass.. Well wait there are PLENTY of jobs for you. Sometimes you have to swallow your pride America and do not what you want to do but what you have to do. Not sit on your ass on youtube and say there is no work.. get off your ass and go look. And Starbux should not be a long term career choice guy in video..cry me a river....
Goodmusicvideos 2 weeks ago
Starbucks is a revolving door for people looking for a quick job. You don't make a career out of working behind the counter at Starbucks, and if you try to, you have no ambition. You want good benefits and good pay, you have to either do something brilliant, start a company ... or get a career in something. Starbucks hires engineers and growers of course. That's their career, and those are the people who need the union -- not the cash operators.
RedDaVincy 4 months ago
20hrs a week is not much. Did you have a second job? If not then you should either work more hrs or get a job that you like. 20hrs a week is like 2 1/2 days. Another alternative and probably the best is to unionize.
Miami799 6 months ago
If you missed your hours by 20 hours, why didn't you tap into your vacation hours that every Starbucks barista earns? If you worked there for a year, at 20 hours a week, there's no reason why you shouldn't have had AT LEAST 40 hours of vacation available to you. By not having utilized this perk of Starbucks, you only discredit your discrediting of Starbucks.
ABeardedDwarf 6 months ago
wow you work 20hrs and you can get the insurance!!!!! Here you don't get shit when you're only part time and more and more companies are making sure you don't get 40hrs a week or that you never get to the end of your "training" time (that's usually 3 months, 6 for some companies) so that you will never get on the health care insurance cuz technicaly you're not a regular employee.
Miqc452 7 months ago
My wife works at Starbucks and receives full coverage Health Care for our Family , and she only has to work 20 hrs a week! She purposely has her availability for up too 60 hrs a week but she averages only 22-25 hrs. She does this to make it easier for her manager to make weekly schedules that allow everyone to get their needed hours. Sounds like this guy just needs to open up his availability.
fleetcaretrucks 10 months ago
USA is a third world country in some regards. One of those is health care, another is labour market laws.
I understand how this twisted system can thrive though, with opnions like: It's ok for Sbucks to force me to work every hour of the day, through my fear of getting sick. Because if I do they'll cut my insurance and/or fire me.
Legalized slavery. Great system.
Aboikos 1 year ago
@Aboikos - "Legalized slavery"? Are you really that fucked in the head? Are you really that stupid? Are you so fucked in the head that you cannot understand that slaves DO NOT GET PAID? Of course not. It's impossible for you to understand this. When someone is as indoctrinated as you are they're beyond stupid. Their so fucked in the head they cannot tell the difference between freedom and tyranny. You in Denmark will fall to Islam because you're indoctrinated, politically correct morons.
thomaserossi 11 months ago
PS--should Starbucks have to pay for this guys' lack of planning? I don't think so. Is there maybe a wider problem with health care in our country that has nothing to do with Starbucks? Possibly.
stewartpp08 1 year ago
Serioulsy? Does this guy know what he's saying? Most company's (almost all) make you work full-time or 40 HOURS a week in order to get health care coverage. To find a place that gives health care coverage to part-time workers is a rare find. I would agree that there is a problem with store managers cutting people's hours (as an employee of Sbuxs myself) but knowing that I feel people should plan ahead and work as much as they can so they don't get into the situation this guys is talking about.
stewartpp08 1 year ago
@stewartpp08 And that is the MAIN REASON why our health care is so fucked up, that people have to work 40 hours a week to have coverage is BULLSHIT!!
theyasin33 1 year ago
@theyasin33 Well if you think so then you should move to Europe. America was founded on the idea that if you work hard enough you can achieve your dreams. Was it a lie? Or has the government governed us into a place where there are no longer opportunities to make those dreams come true? Just throwing the ideas out there...I'm undecided on those points but in the mean time I'm working hard to make it.
stewartpp08 2 months ago
I am so happy to live in Europe. We have the best health insurance
patrick25w 1 year ago
oh please.
Baristerp 1 year ago
Wow, benefits at 20 hours? That's pretty good.... more than I would have expected for part time work making coffee.
TracElement34 1 year ago
@TracElement34 Yes, but they cut your hours lower than 20.
ticks4ticks4 1 year ago
Hmmmm.... Lots of Starbucks cointel on here trying to save their asses. To those who say find a different job if you don't like it, I say the same to you when your lord and savior Starbucks finally falls on its face. Anyone with so little human ingenuity as to whore themselves to the very type of entities that are destroying this country gets exactly what they deserve when the shit hits the fan. Be smart and get out while you can.
silkvein 1 year ago
Every employee also has the right to pick up hours at any other store in the United States! If you are anywhere close to losing your benefits, get up and make an effort to WORK. Its that simple.
almostfamousnick 1 year ago
@almostfamousnick Yes, but in reality, NOT THAT EASY! Especially if you become sick and need to USE those COSTLY health benefits!
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almostfamousnick 1 year ago
Starbucks is a rare company that offers the same benefits to part time employees as full time. Starbucks also offers sick time! If this person would have used his sick time for the time he was actually sick, he would be fine. If you are not willing to work a steady 20 hours a week, why would you expect any company to invest in a benefits package for you? Notice this employee says he was maintaining "nearly exactly" 20 hours a week!?
almostfamousnick 1 year ago
@almostfamousnick Because they INTENTIONALLY cut your hours!
ticks4ticks4 1 year ago
I get 100% health insurance, for barely any amount of money.
You don't lose your insurance if you get sick for a week. Its an average of 20 hours, if you miss one weeks, that wouldn't lower your average.
alleybot 1 year ago 2
@alleybot It could lower your average by 20 hours. When 240 hours are required in a quarter (12 or 13 weeks) it could lower it by more than an hour, eliminating eligibility for benefits.
PereztiToaleay 9 months ago
he would be able to keep his insurance if he requested the sick days when he was sick which he obviously failed to do. this sounds like half truths here.
Fatal616 1 year ago
Well I have been with starbucks for six years and have never had a problem maintaining benefits. Plus it depends on your manager. They have full control of your hrs. If you have good availability you should maintain 20 hrs a week with no problem at all.
silver03ga 1 year ago 2
@silver03ga yeah i expect this dude to say "oh and btw - i was only available 3 days a week. well duh they cant fill your hours then. i never had a problem either.
Fatal616 1 year ago
@Fatal616 Yes, but when I worked there, people with OPEN AVAILABILITY still got hours reduced---and even called other stores--CONSTANTLY! Still cut hours, and had "NOW HIRING" sign. Message to "shift supervisors" (who were hourly workers--university student-- who still got less than 20 hours/week): "We have a LABOR issue! Run tight shifts! Send people home early when possible!" Of course, they refused to! But still, EVERYONE got 14.5 or fewer hours per week! And then 10 hours, then 14..
ticks4ticks4 1 year ago
I think more what they should be talking about is how the raise the insurance prices from $40 a paycheck to $90! Or the fact that the coverage is BS! My boyfriend and his two sisters work for Starbucks and I did. If they need to go the hospital it cost the $200 for the ER. I am an uninsured student who can get the same benefit. Also his sister pays $140 for a medication that cost $150 without insurance and $100 for students. Let's just say that this company is falling faster and faster!
dragonddomien 2 years ago
But do you know why health insurance is so tightly coupled with employee benefits to begin with?
rflosi 2 years ago
wow... you have no idea what you are talking about... I work for starbucks...
and if your not getting above 20 hours, its because your a lazy bum...
stop pointing fingers... you got only yourself to blame...
where else can you get full health insurance for a parttime job?
spitze08 2 years ago 2
So... let me get this straight. Starbucks does a terrible job of offering health insurance.. and you're asking us to push for government legislation to change the way Starbucks offer's Starbuck's Health Insurance?
This makes no sense to me. Why does the government need to step into the equation? If you aren't happy with your employer, quit.... it's that simple... and we don't have to grant more power to the government. You just quit, walk away, find something else.
datalorez 2 years ago
well, it isn't actually limited to Starbucks. I've had this happen to me (I guess it's worse?) twice before, where a company did not offer me enough hours to even have health insurance. When I confronted my employer about this in my last job, she skirted the question and just said they couldn't offer any more hours.
They don't mind you walking away, either- there's always people who are desperate for a job, and that makes us all a little more desperate. Dunno what to do about it, though.
IMDWT 2 years ago
ive been a partner for 4 years now and have worked in multiple stores and would like to say this is the complete opposite of my experience with the system. never have i seen any of my managers purposefully cut partner hours for them not to receive benefits, nor have i heard of other managers doing so. almost everyone in my store qualifies for benefits. the few who do not only work weekends. i'm not saying what this guy is saying didn't happen. just looks like cherry picking to me.
newmanite81 2 years ago
you could have picked up more hours from other stores the previous weeks and you would have been good. you need 240 hours each quarter to keep benefits, if you would have worked a little more at your store and surrounding stores, then you would have been able to make up for the lost hours. dont complain when not that many part time jobs barely get benefits anyways.
ericchasephelan 2 years ago
@ericchasephelan yeah exactly. mosts dont offer health care to part timers. Starbucks and Walmart are the only ones i know of
Fatal616 1 year ago
@Fatal616 Yes--but hardly anyone gets it--and in some counties, esp. college towns and high cost-of-living towns, no one (save manager and asst. manager) get them). The catch is Starbucks advertises full health-care to "Eligible" part-timers. (That's why it's not false advertising). But it is still deceptive! (but legal and accurate!)
ticks4ticks4 1 year ago
uhhh. duh you fucktard you only work 20 hours a week thats barely anything
Uterusbreeze 2 years ago
Maybe they should learn the word KARMA.
They wouldn't be closeing stores like they have been.
I just love companies that screw their BEST ASSET, EMPLOYEES!!!
And go in the Hole. Makes my day:-)
I LOVE KARMA!!
1958louief 2 years ago
I work 60 Hours a week in the summer Doing construction to pay for college, and 25 Hours a week when I'm in college (Not like this lazy hippy who doesn't even work 20 hours a week) , I don't have health insurance and I really don't care. I hate these lazy whores.
Why should a company provide health insurance for someone who's not generating enough profit to make it worthwhile?
jtvagop 2 years ago 2
this video is bullshit! i work for starbucks and they NEVER cut your hours the week before the quarter is over. this video is full of lies and incorrect information.
rocketdudehere06 2 years ago 3
and now starbucks just doubled health care costs for it's employees, while taking in $256 million in profits last quarter.
tbwobbly 2 years ago
So they made 256 mil. Good. Thats the point of a business. Profit. Why else would anyone invest in a business?
hannityforpres 2 years ago
Its not different then the other grunt level employees in Corporate America.
In this country the people at the top are Vampires.
gaycowboymovies 2 years ago 3
If you're employed for Starbucks you're allowed to work at any of the 10,000 plus Starbucks in the country. So that's 10,000 stores you could have called to ask for more hours . . . in Manhattan alone there are almost 200 Starbucks.
Also, what kind of planning is it to wait until the last week to get to your required number of hours?
ObamaPress 2 years ago
pay attention, it's not a required number..it's an average. you have to average a certain number of hours per week, so if they cut your hours in the last week, you no longer have that average. why don't people actually listen?!!
tbwobbly 2 years ago
Its 240 hours per quarter one needs to obtain to qualify for insurance. You have to exceed an average of 20 hours per week. So again, I restate . . . it is irresponsible to wait until the last week to get to ones required 20 hour per week avg. when you're allowed to pick up hours at any of the 10,000 stores in the U.S.
ObamaPress 2 years ago
plus, if they only give you a certain number of hours per week it's not really up to you...and maybe they tried to pick up shifts at other stores but they couldn't b/c a) they were all full b) the bosses wouldn't give them the hours b/c the company does not want people to get the 20/week average....for someone with 'obama' in his/her screen name you'd think he/she'd be more progressive.
tbwobbly 2 years ago
Re: tbwobbly. You used the word 'maybe,' a lot in your comment. I am not telling you maybe, . . . I worked as a barista for Starbucks and was there for almost 5 years. You are allowed to call up any of the 10,000 Starbucks in the country (e.g. 200 in Manhattan alone) and ask for hours. And prior to the recession, stores were always in need of help . . . I consistently got 40 hours a week. Starbucks is one of the first companies to offer health insurance for part-time employees. They are leaders.
ObamaPress 2 years ago
health care in the usa will never be fullfilling never cause either you pay more and more money just to bulid up it until you get sick then theres other small minor things like going to the right hospital for the right insurance and so forth or dying is the alternative cause you cant afford to pay it
"when the worlds wounds wont heal it will slowly die reason cause it couldnt pay the bill"
VINNYCENT123 2 years ago
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I believe in universal healthcare but there should be exclusions; for example, if you've ever been convicted of a felony then you don't get any coverage. Plus, the government needs to invest more money in medical scholarships and better facilities so we have adequate manpower and resources.
fooschnikens 2 years ago
why are felons not deserving of medical treatment? they are still human beings.
tbwobbly 2 years ago
Stop whining you lazy fucking creep!
whatisitfawlty 2 years ago
20 HOURS A WEEK? lol stop complaining, you need to be working more than 20 hours a week to begin with.
KougasPrincess 2 years ago
maybe if starbucks GAVE them more then 20 hours a week they would work more than 20 hours a week. if you actually paid attention to what they are saying, you would know they WANT more hours, this is just all Starbucks will give them b/c they want to keep people from having insurance.
tbwobbly 2 years ago
it's even wore now b/c the new policy is that employees have to be available 80 hours a week or so to even keep their jobs (not get laid off), yet they have no guaranteed hours. So, they can't get another job and lose their availability, but they can't be sure they'll be able to pay their bills cause they don't actually know how much they'll work.
tbwobbly 2 years ago
I don't know where you got those numbers from but it's untrue. I work for Starbucks and I've yet to have my hours cut before any quarter. I've worked 35-40 hours per week for most of the 9 years I've worked there. There was a period where I had to cut down to twenty hours and that was my choice, not theirs.
JDandtheTurk 2 years ago
As I've said many times before, just because that us your experience does not mean that these workers 'experiences are not real or legitimate.
tbwobbly 2 years ago
This is becoming very common. A nation of part time workers without real access to benefits. Industry just externalizes its costs to society and now this guy, who doesn't have insurance owes thousands to health care providers he may never be able to pay back and has no coverage. Where is all the "choice" the health insurance companies say people have?
wjhamilton3 2 years ago 2
Why are not the goverment paying for all helth care expences? You are after all paying taxes...
pantemaskin 2 years ago
This is just silly. boo hoo. You worked 20 hours a week, you're lucky you had an option to get healthcare. What this guy is saying is true for just about every company. I've worked in a few chain retail stores in my day, trust me, they were no different. What do you do when you are unhappy at a crap job? You go elsewhere.
GenerationB0RED 2 years ago
Just because this is the way it is everywhere does not mean this is how it should be.
tbwobbly 2 years ago
Their coffee and pastries are over priced and suck!
solomonred1 2 years ago 2
It's amazing to me to hear and read all these health care coverage problems!
HR 676 Universal Health Care Plan! Reload it!
Watch my video!
MrMindfucker 2 years ago
Remember the Pig? Brew your own coffee's!
MrMindfucker 2 years ago
it's hilarious to watch this video after seeing the destroyed afghanistan family videos
spoiled american bitch
nomercyrules10 2 years ago 3
Yet this wreched company has the audacity to send tons of money to Planned Parenthood to help the execute children. Yeah, that there is priorities in the right place.
Miserable company with a terrible product.
Just stop supporting them, spend your money elsewhere.
tomcwpb 2 years ago
it's SOOO easy to pick up shifts at neighboring stores, to make up for your 20 hours.
and the whole part where managers "cut hours towards the end of the quarter" is total BS. managers have NO incentive WHATSOEVER to do anything like that. it won't reflect on their P&L, it won't affect their review... nothing...
also, if he had used his vacation hours during his sickness, that would still count towards the required hours to get benefits.
i don't believe he actually worked for starbucks.
elexir 2 years ago
just because it is a certain way in your area does not mean that it is that way everywhere. for all you know other stores already had too much staff in his area. maybe the managers were encouraged to cut hours by their higher-ups. maybe he didn't have vacation time to use. don't assume that just because it is one way for you that it is the same for everyone else.
tbwobbly 2 years ago
Dude only works 20 hours in a coffee shop. Does he think this is a real job? If he worked full-time like most people, he'd have had less trouble. He worked so close to the edge, took a week off and got burned.
Sorry, but I don't feel many people will care for a film about an evil corporation that nobody gives a sh*t about. In Canada they have no share, compared with Tim Horton's. If Timmy's was up to no good, you'd have something.
Also, Starbucks coffee tastes like the dirt it was grown in.
buhgoil 2 years ago
if that's all one can find at the time, nothing is wrong with it. but don't whine and cry that they don't carry what a better paying job would.
to have that, one cup of coffee would coat $10 a cup.
Are you people nuts?
ANGLEBOOT 2 years ago
or starbucks could just not pay over $10 million dollars a new ad campaign and $40 million on a private jet and put that toward their workers instead...oh, and don't forget all the money they spend on the union-busting lawyers.
tbwobbly 2 years ago 8
union?? what the SEIU? That's not a union, that's a joke.
The SEIU want to allow illegals to take the place of American workers, that's not a union. Beside $10 million isn't even close to what's needed to cover every employee.
They can do like the rest of America, if they want health care, they can pay for it and stop begging the world to pay their way through life.
ANGLEBOOT 2 years ago
Typical American attitude. Claiming virtue for what is a pitiful situation. Hell, why pay insurance at all, it just benefits those who make claims.
buhgoil 2 years ago
you obviously have not done any research on this. The starbucks union is not part of SEIU (a union which i have tons of problems with as well, though for different reasons than yourself), it is part of the IWW, a very different union. plus, news-flash, most undocumented immigrants work in jobs that Americans don't want to work in..AND they are often jobs that have a surplus of positions, and survive b/c of a large amount of unorganized, mobile, inexpensive labor, like agriculture.
tbwobbly 2 years ago
the system that you seem to love so much, capitalism, not only creates but thrives on so-called "illegal" immigration by exploiting and repressing large areas of the world in order to keep goods and labor cheap. this creates poor people, who then move to the exploiter's country to get better jobs, where they continue to be used as cheap, mobile labor, something that capitalism would be hard-pressed to survive without.
oh, and real unions fight for all workers, not just Americans.
tbwobbly 2 years ago
@tbwobbly unions suck
Fatal616 1 year ago
only those that want it should be taxed for it.
ANGLEBOOT 2 years ago
Why would you need health insurance when you are sick? Thats nuts you should have just mixed up an espresso
blwuguy10 2 years ago
Damn I thought this was Dave Attell when I clicked on it...
TheIrieOne87 2 years ago
The amazing thing about this to me is that you can get health insurance anywhere working just 20 hours per week.
Richardgwm 2 years ago
anyone that thinks they can make a living working at a Starbucks is nuts.
There is no way a man can support a family working for Starbucks.
starbucks is a place for teens that are in school and those that dropped out of school.
Get a real job, and stop whining about low pay.
ANGLEBOOT 2 years ago
huxley2012 is absolutely right, we must stop capitalism and we must stop it now!
YouLeeMorresonTube 2 years ago
stop capitalism now
huxley2012 2 years ago
shit pay, but can buy gay hats explain?
Bencey90 2 years ago
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Because you're an idiot.
nikechiapas 2 years ago
sorry you must own one of those hats.
Bencey90 2 years ago
no, you're just an idiot.
nikechiapas 2 years ago
gay hat
Bencey90 2 years ago
*yawn*
nikechiapas 2 years ago
Its hard for me to truly realize the gravity of the topic of this video, I cant even imagine having that concern. I'm in Canada and healthcare insurance is pretty much mandatory, in that you required to be covered. How much you earn determines how much it costs you. If your impoverished, then its free. Unfortunately there are a few people here that dont realize that and go without until they learn otherwise.
I will support this issue and stop buying Starbucks products here in Canada.
sukmibigwon 2 years ago
Sukmi: Thx for the boycott even tho your country cares about its citizens enough to ins you; Kudos go out to you. I boycotted 2 when learning of treatment of employees. DH bought me a Silvia/Rocky espres/grinder so I make espresso @ home; I bought him a French Press since he don't like lattes/cappas. He drinks reg. I roast my beans to keep fresh ones then grind 4 his French Press coffee & grind again for my latte/cappas @ diff grinds of course. espresso is really fine whereas FP is course grind.
PaisleyPlace 2 years ago
Scum Bags...Most employers try to avoid paying a penny more towards an employee who helps make them money. Doesn't make sense.
JimiHenbricks 2 years ago
"trouble getting 20 hours avg" is not the norm, unless their availability doesn't fit the peak of the store's business hours and/or the store is overstaffed. I'm not saying this former partner is not telling the truth. I am saying he (or, more accurately, the editor of this video) is distorting the reality of the great majority of partners in the store. & so I am speaking from my experience, which is just as relevant as his.
jsjyhf 2 years ago 2
"distorting reality" implies intent. how do you know it is not the norm? maybe it isn't in your store or your area, but have you done a national survey of sbux employees? if it isn't hard to get the 20 hours, wen why do only 43% of sbux employees, INCLUDING OFFICE STAFF AND MANAGEMENT, even QUALIFY for insurance? seems a little shady to me...and that's verses 47% at Wal-mart
tbwobbly 2 years ago
Evidence? None. Instead you retreat into a baseless question which only serves to distract the issue. If you're incapable of answering a question then don't ask it. It's a distraction and a lie.
thomaserossi 2 years ago
It's called a rhetorical question...key word in there is "rhetoric." And it actually is evidence, because it is implicit in the fact that the question laid out, that less than half of Starbucks employees qualify for their insurance plan. If you use a little bit of deductive reasoning, you can then conclude that since a worker needs to average 20 hours to qualify for insurance, then less than half of workers average 20 hours!!! If you need a definition for any of those big words let me know.
tbwobbly 2 years ago
As a 4 year starbucks partner who has paid his starbucks health care premium since he started, I can safely say it has been well worth it. I never had an issue getting my 20 hour avg each week, from my home store. When I was sick as a first year barista and had to miss a couple of weeks at work, I was instructed by my store manager to fill out some simple paperwork so that my medical leave would be approved and my QTD hours would be protected. This former partner is distorting reality.
jsjyhf 2 years ago 2
or his reality could just be different from yours. i've talked to plenty of starbucks employees who have trouble getting 20 hours avg, but also workers who don't. just because his experience is different from yours does not mean that he is "distorting reality"
tbwobbly 2 years ago
at my job we get punished for missing more than 5 days in a 90 day period, whether sick or not. i've known coworkers who had to go to part time just to get the time off to get better.
tbwobbly 2 years ago
So be more reliable.
thomaserossi 2 years ago
i agree starbucks is evil
but a career at starbucks hahahahahhahahahahaha
jaml311 2 years ago
The attack on Starbucks has begun. This is the infamous whine of the entitled. First the Unions are attacking Starbucks because Baristas aren't getting paid enough. Now it's health care.
If you're all such brilliant business folks and economists then open up a competing coffee chain. We'd love to see "Communist Coffee" fail miserably then we'll all have a good laugh. The fact is you lazy union workers want something for nothing. The free lunch doesn't work, we tried it with subprime loans...
thomaserossi 2 years ago
To hell with the capitalists. What imbeclies like you don't understand is the proletariat own you. The instant you have no workers/customers, the instant you have NO PROFIT.
WORKING MEN OF ALL COUNTRIES UNITE!
Demand your share of the profit. You all helped make it!
elixirguitarist 2 years ago
Another know-nothing communist engaging in tantrum politics. You think you can control customers? LOLZ People are attracted by quality and affordability, not slogans.
Demand your share?! Do you know how stupid this sounds? You're demanding your share from the customer. You're taking THEIR money. Go ahead and try that crap on a customer. Once they see the price they'll go to a different store. Winco is cheaper than Albertson's - better business, no unions. BTW - Albertson's is GOoB >=)
thomaserossi 2 years ago
You don't think people are attracted to brand names, and everyone makes choices based on 'quality and affordability'? You better stay out of the fashion business! I love my starbucks coffee, because it is harsh and strong, but it isn't the most affordable---and people tell me it isn't the best either....And there's a whole bunch of people who enjoy walking around showing folks they paid 2-3 bucks for a cup of coffee... Nothing wrong with it. You're mischaracterizing how some shop and choose.
nativio 2 years ago
nativio: you have obviously never had a decent GOOD cup of espresso if you think $tarbuck$ coffee tastes good. They burn the freaking beans! I don't go to $tarbuck$ b/c I can make an excellent cup of espresso using a Rancillio Silvia espresso machine & Rocky burr grinder at home using fresh roasted (not burnt) coffee beans picked & purchased under fair-trade & fair-wages. BTW, my espresso doesn't cost nearly as much as yours & it tastes like real coffee, not burnt sludge in water.
PaisleyPlace 2 years ago
Of course, I assume that some critics of the idea of any socialized, government run system have no problem with the cost of a four billion dollar aircraft carrier being 'put on the backs of others' by the US government.
nativio 2 years ago
The guy you're working for shouldn't have to provide for your health insurance. It's absurd, he's running a business, not a charity. The government should. Like it does in any normal developed country. bravenewfilms, you're fighting the wrong battle. Of course Starbucks sucks, but if you want to win a fight make sure you make good arguments. Lousy arguments,like this guy who looks he's doing ok, complaining about insurance in a 20hr/week job is absurd compared to abuses other workers go through.
TheMariborchan 2 years ago
health is a right, I don;t care what anyone says. The issue here is that the business offers it yet doesn't pull throughon its promise and uses shady tactics to snub out their employees. Employees need health insurance through work because private insurance is way too fucking expensive. Its not right
RedNymph234 2 years ago 2
Private health insurance rates show what health care really costs. If you can't afford it, you are economically productive enough to have it. That said, our government pays for any emergency health care needs you have. Why do you think you should get everything off of the backs of other productive people?
CIDaily 2 years ago
Then wy do thousands of people die every year from very treatable diseases, but they get turned away because they can't pay, and teh government won't help?
The belief that people get shit off of the backs of others is bullshit. Absolute bullshit. You make it sound like they deserve to die, and live miserable lives....and if you believe that, you are an evil sonofabitch and my arguement is done with you
RedNymph234 2 years ago 3
"Then wy do thousands of people die every year from very treatable diseases"
Can you show me evidence of this? How would government health care fix that? In nations with government health care the services are rationed. Why do you think people come to the USA when they can denied in their own country?
We live in a world of limited resources.
"The belief that people get shit off of the backs of others is bullshit"
--You can say it is bs...but it is the reality of what happens.
CIDaily 2 years ago
So...when a hospital charges a patient 791 dollars for a stocking to improve blood circulation, which can be gotten over the internet for 12 dollars, that is 'what health care really costs'? Or charging that same patient 1000 to get a copy of his own records is 'what health care really costs'?
Or the fact that the maximum cap of benefits has been the same as its been since the 1970s, a million dollars
btw, those figures came from a story in that notorious, leftist rag, the Wall Street Journal.
nativio 2 years ago
"So...when a hospital charges a patient 791 dollars for a stocking to improve blood circulation, which can be gotten over the internet for 12 dollars, that is 'what health care really costs'?"
That is messed up. Anybody who over charges like that will be exposed in the press and they will have to come in line with reality or get no business. The system we have right now doesn't offer much competition and I fear that competition is going to future be reduced.
CIDaily 2 years ago
Actually, overcharging in hospitals is epidemic, on par with the old cliche of the $3.000 toilet seat that the pentagon paid for. Look into how much an aspirin pill, one pill, can cost in a hospital.
Hospitals, when it comes to emergency care, really are not up for competition. You get hit by a car in a catastrophic car accident, you're really in no shape to dictate where the ambulance takes you. Or if pass out at work or have a seizure, you're going to end up in the closest place possible.
nativio 2 years ago
I would love to life in a free market fantasy land where hospitals compete with each other, offering better and cheaper (though still safe and worthwhile service) for normal and emergency procedures and issues (hospitals do tend to compete in terms of specialty fields like certain cancer research and treatment, heart replacement and facial transplants though), but it is a sellers market. But hell, at this point I would merely settle for a cable option other than Time Warner in my area...
nativio 2 years ago
No, instead you would love to live in a fascist utopia where high wages are created out of thin air.
High Wages = High Cost
Cost is only efficient based on it's ability to produce and scarcity of goods/services.
Barista = Monkey
Anyone can be a Barista, the demand is low. Therefore the wages are low. There's nary a Barista who could become a successful doctor.
Doctor = High Wages via scarcity and necessity
Why not pay Baristas $100/hr and charge a penny for coffee?
thomaserossi 2 years ago 2
Ah---How is this a response to what I said regarding health care, hospitals and insurance companies? I sorta agree with you with this, but the problem is not expecting baristas to be paid '100/hr', (a silly straw dog argument, how about a living wage of 15 and hour) the problem is we live in a society in the US where the weight of health care providing was put on employers rather than the government back in the 40s.
nativio 2 years ago
no ones saying working in a coffee shop makes you a highly skilled worker, but even unskilled workers need healthcare. i live in the uk and everyone gets total coverage for a fraction of the price people would pay in the us. you guys are getting ripped off. i assume your american because you think getting medical treatment is something that needs to be earned.
mw18g 2 years ago
MW18: You hit the nail on the head. I can't believe here in the USA brainwashed citizens believe health care should be a luxury vs a right. When did we put a price tag on living? If it's illegal to commit suicide or participate in assisted suicide then our gov't is breaking the law by NOT providing health care as is done in other countries such as Canada, the UK, & every other top nation in the world. In the instance of health care, I'm ashamed of my country & it's brainwashed-sect citizens.
PaisleyPlace 2 years ago
as said a million times, then move to Canada or the UK.
But don't bring their 3rd world socialism to the US.
ANGLEBOOT 2 years ago
Whatever that means...
2882890 2 years ago
if you want 3rd socialism, move to a country that has 3rd socialism.
ANGLEBOOT 2 years ago
First learn what the fuck socialism means then talk... just think please why millions of people complain about US's healthcare??? Why?? Why????? then travel the world, world I mean, it doesn't mean travel around the states....The world...You will be amazed how that social healthcare works, way better my friend.
canuls10 2 years ago
Most of those millions are immigrants and illegals.
If they don't like it, they can move right back where they came from.
Hell they moved to get away from the socialism bullshit, then turn around and want the US to join the some bullshit they left. The world knows how the social healthcare works. Tax 50% of your income and get the shittiest health care known. Turned away because your to fat or to old ect...
You're just another NWO supporter.
ANGLEBOOT 2 years ago
they were just unlucky to be born in some 3rd world, fuckin thank god you are born better off
mursalat92 2 years ago
Unless you are a Native American they your roots are immigrant. All of our families came on the boat. Mayflower or Slave ship! And If you really don't like socialism then get ride of Social Security, Unemployment benifits, Medicare and rest they are all social programs they we pay into.
bonniebw50 2 years ago 2
I ain't a supporter of any fucking abreviation mate...Besides cheap self confidence which surprisingly based on ignorance is making me smile. Have you ever traveled???? 50% of your income ur talking about, are you joking? However immigrants ur talking about, what are you? Or what do you think you are? No offence however learn some stuff before tagging people as NWO or other shit that u just learned from the idiot media you guys have over there... Please just for once, research.
canuls10 2 years ago
Oh so you don't believe in the NWO, but yet support it.
Now here kids is what you call a brainwash person.
Has seen many leaders speak of the NWO and still refues to believe it.
Today obama goes to the other side of the world to try and unit another part of the world into the NWO. but yet he is to young to understand why. He believes it just a media myth. Yet Obama and many others have spoke of the New World Order.
ANGLEBOOT 2 years ago
kids...you are a hopeless case my friend. I don't believe in anybody's order neither Obama, nor whoever you name. Take off your horseblinders and just try to, at least understand that I just have an opinion about something doesn't work... I don't support any puppet or talk on behalf of anybody. I agree with you about Obama. They all talk about NWO however they don't know exactly what is wrong with the system that needs to be revised, which is sad. To you, DO NOT TAG PEOPLE.
canuls10 2 years ago
I don't tag people, people tag themselves.
Obama is all for universal health care, not just a national health care. Which is world wide. As well as he is for a one money system.
That my friend is just part of the NWO. So
Any part of a health care plan other than you paying for it yourself is part of the NWO.
It not the job of the nation or the world to worry about your health care.
ANGLEBOOT 2 years ago
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canuls10 2 years ago
I was talking about you tagging me!...but anyways. I know what NWO is but thanks for explaining. I am just saying that healthcare is a right, to me of course. There are people who cannot afford to have healthcare. Coz there are some serious deep loopholes in this system. I see where you are coming from and I respect your point of view. In my opinion, government has to provide affordable healthcare... Especially when I think how advanced U.S. is in hightech. U.S. has to lead as an example.
canuls10 2 years ago
The US government was never put in place to cover the people with health care. other wise the founding father would have wrote it in the the constitution.
yes it is a right, a right that if you want it, you can buy it. Just like a car. Everyone needs a car but it's up to you to buy one. Don't come to the nation to buy you one. same as for a home everyone needs one, ect...
The governmnet roll has need to buy what you couyld have bougt yourself.
ANGLEBOOT 2 years ago
People can afford everything they want but nothing of what they need.
Take care of the needs and drop all the cell phone and i-pod and B/S they don't need in life, then even the poorest of people can afford health care.
ANGLEBOOT 2 years ago
Well you put healthcare and buying a car on the same scale... I have nothing else to say. Have a good one
canuls10 2 years ago
Only if I'm the dictator will I live in a truly fascist state...I've dealt with monkeys that "practice medicine" and they are accredited within the health care structure...no thanks.
jungler1203 2 years ago
I couldn't agree more. In this country, I think a lot of liberals are afraid to go the whole nine yards with this issue, because they are afraid of being labeled a Communist. I think any statement that alludes to their being individuals who are more worthy of being healthy than others should be seen as criminal. Why are we allowing anyone to die at our doorsteps, simply because they are in a different tax bracket, or have nothing at all?
TaskforceDingbat 2 years ago
I agree. But let me state my point again. Do not fight the wrong battles if you want to win. It's not about companies paying for healthcare, of course they will try to cheat, of course they will not employ pregnant women, etc. it's not in their financial interest to support sick people! It's not that Starbucks is run by evil people, it's just trying to make a profit. (it's not a moral excuse though) Laws should be there to prevent the abuse of workers, government should provide cheap insurance.
TheMariborchan 2 years ago
Couldn't have said it better myself. Actually, reading this was refreshing. I've seen too much stupidity for one day, so I thank you, sir.
TaskforceDingbat 2 years ago
Insurance companies are BOOKIES, nothing more, nothing less.
MiKikaIwaShizaru 2 years ago
Health insurance. What a despicable concept in the first place. And when its in the hands of your employer it becomes pathetic. A parody of the American system.
stengevarsel 2 years ago
WOOO CAPITALISM!
rockisdeadnotquite 2 years ago
People make me so mad who want more benefits for working so little. If you want better benefits, go to school and learn a skill which pays more then pooring a cup of COFFEE does!!! After that, try working more then 20 hrs a week. Jesus, this isn't rocket science, people.
cmanw 2 years ago
cmanw,
Unfortunately, with our economy a higher education doesn't always guarantee a well paying job. The employee said that Starbucks would deliberately cut people's hours at the end of the quarter to prevent them from paying health benefits. If that is their policy, then it should be highlighted so people would really know what they can expect from their employer.
Valleynews 2 years ago
Yes, a job is a job. But working under 20 hours does not entitle you to health care benefits. If you want to work more, get a full time job! If you can find one, get more skills. That's all I'm saying.
cmanw 2 years ago
I agree with Valleynews. The US unemployment rate has skyrocketed. It'll take years before the US is back on its feet again. Pouring a cup of coffee is a job. Work. Your channel states that you are a CEO. Based on your comment, I'd say you fuck your employees over just like Starbucks.
stengevarsel 2 years ago
Actually, my employees are extremely happy, thank you very much! Just because I advocate the advancement of ones education doesn't mean I "fuck my employees". I can tell, you're probably a union worker who wants something for nothing.
cmanw 2 years ago
Everyone's a union worker where I live. Unions are a part of life here. The largest party in my country is called the Workers Party. And last time I checked, my country tops the UN HDI, the number of USD millionaires per capita in the world, and so on and so forth. You, an employer, comments on a video such as this, exposing your true feelings on the issue of worker rights. Education was not your point, asshole, you were sitting at your desk, complaining about your own staff.
stengevarsel 2 years ago
STARBUCKS FTW
lukasstewart 2 years ago
"Is there any country in the world where you would get health insurance when you are even a full time employee??!?!?" Yeah, like the top 50 industrialized nations.. except for the US of course.
MacEifer 2 years ago
Yes that is it , I worked @ a club store and they MADE SURE ...because I knew the girl in the office ..for 30 yrs ...and she told me they cut hrs all the time and hire all part timers and OLD People on Medicare/Medicade They do not like to give health benefits any-where any time ...its a game to BEG and comply like a slave with your employer since the NIXON yrs !
nohealthcare62 2 years ago
Health Insurance is a BENEFIT. The company doesn't owe it to you. If you don't like it; you can get it on your own. Plain and Simple.
Most of your videos I agree with; this one doesn't make any sense!
blueboxer17 2 years ago
Starbucks just plain sucks, whether you work there or are a customer.
psychoman420 2 years ago
unbelievable
marniespeaks 2 years ago
A brick through the window of every starbucks
quitearow 2 years ago
the idea that your company is there to provide you with health care is a myth! demand nationalized health care now!!
etoposide 2 years ago
$4.00 & $5.00 for a cup of that JUNK is Ridlicious and Stupid !!!!
JetRanger0007 2 years ago
Regardless of your agenda, I think we can all come together here.
Cleverconveyence 2 years ago
What about FMLA? That should have given you a right to be off work if you're sick, up to 60 days (even though when I had to use mine, my position was eliminated when I came back).
DimitriLozovoy 2 years ago
The U.S. needs single payer health care, now. Everyone in, no one left out.
Aiden057 2 years ago 2
Under the purposed HR 676, Your covered . If you get sick and cant maintain your Employee Hourly minimum to Qualify for there Full Time Benefit package, part time, quit or fired, your covered.
An added Benefit that is being overlooked by State Government and Employers the result of a National Single Payer Health Insurance will reduced Workman's Comp. Insurance because a Huge cost of the Premium goes to the Health treatment and rehabilitation of a hurt worker.
ubuibiok 2 years ago
starbucks
- big supporter of israel
- owned by a jew
- notice the star of starbucks?
- regard non jews as cattle which you can rape steal and lie to or anything for your comfort (torah)
why do you think jews were expelled from so many countries through out the years of history? because of their ethics in business.
not all of them are bad but a lot are and unfortunately they are very powerful
dangflo 2 years ago
When you finish a cup of Starbucks coffee, if you look vert closely, you can see the outline of a chupacabra.
Cleverconveyence 2 years ago 2
If you finish THREE cups of Starbucks coffee, you have to run from the chupacabra!
TheBadBandana 2 years ago
... most employers don't offer part time workers health benefits. period.
If your's do, they're already being generous. If they don't and you think they should, find a new job.
Show this video to 90% of the part time workers out there and they'd scoff at this guy's greediness.
I didn't have health insurance when I was working 35 hours a week. Just under the 40 I need to qualify for "full time". Guess what I did? I found a new job.
rosalind24 2 years ago
starbucks sucks, i never liked them and never will
jaceves84 2 years ago
Starbucks says don't hate the player hate the game. Capitalism
atripa645 2 years ago
I hate Starbucks and what it represents,but what have we come to?Why can't you get another job?If you dont like the healthcarecoverage/treatment get another damn job.I did it,it can be done.Maybe no one knows this but you can look for another job while u still have a job.Umay not find 1 right away,but keep plugging and you will get it done.Uare not indebted to stay with a company forever,its still legal to change jobs.For now,who knows about next week.We may have to pay a job changing tax, lol.
dixon36 2 years ago
getting a new job in this economy? lol
ahset 2 years ago