So tell me, you folk who believe in homeopathy, when you have diabetes, do you rely on your sugar pills? When you (and I wouldn't wish this on anyone) are diagnosed with cancer, do you take sugar pills?
Or do you go to a doctor and get some real treatment.
Or do you continue taking sugar pills until it's too late for a doctor to do anything for you, then blame the doctor for not curing you.
well..it works and it is cheaper than to stuff all the doctors with your good money...but go ahead...stuff it...i am shure you will run to a homeopathic doctor when your deadly sick and try everything!! you didn´t understand any thing at all and it will proof you wrong at one day....
Real is scientific homeopathy. It cures even when Conventional Allopathic Medicine (CAM) fails. Evidence-based modern homeopathy is a nano-medicine bringing big results for everyone
Please cite double blind placebo controlled clinical trials please from a respected scientific journal. Otherwise you have nothing and are making shit up.
How sad. Before broadcasting such a huge protest, they should learn a bit more about homeopathy. For one, there is no way they will overdose by taking the full tube in one shot. That's part of the beauty of homeopathy and how safe it is. Now if they had taken 3 pills every hour until they had exhausted the tube, maybe they would have seen a reaction. Because it doesn't work like conventional medicine. It's not about how many pills you take but rather how often you dose.
@elmnopq46 The beauty of it? are you mad? it is WATER...nothing more, nothing less. They should spend those millions on proven cancer treatments not presently funded by the NHS as not considered cast effective.
Show us some scientific base to your claims...... oh you cant because although many have tried, noone has come up with any scientific evidence to prove your sad claim, and beleive me there are many who would like to.
Dont fine it a complete fail. Met a few people and got to go outside and enjoy the weather. Meet new people you wouldnt have stop to talk to in the first place.
The knee-jerk shunning of contemporary Homeopathy doesn't make faith-based ancient Allopathy medicine any more powerful or provable in the correct treatment and cure of chronic diseases.
My beliefs based on faith in Allopathy have been destroyed by the logic of Homeopathy:
A study, conducted in 1985, found that patients who took the homeopathic product Oscillococcinum, derived from duck heart and liver, experienced reduction in their fever much rapidly (in two days ) than those who took placebo. Shivering disappeared by day four. In another controlled study, published in 1989 in the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, 66 percent more of the Oscillococcinum group recovered within forty-eight hours as compared to the placebo group.
Homoepathy is bullshit. Now the NHS in Britain have stopped funding this quack cure we should see an end to this pseudoscientific superstitious clap-trap. As homeopathy believes the less there is of a substance the stronger it is (ROFL!) the only way to overdose is to take no remedy at all or drink a glass of tap water.
"Well conducted trials clinically support Homeopathy." No they fucking well don't, that's why this watered-down bullshit is no longer funded by the NHS. That's just the bullshit that can only be found on alternative medicine websites, where they claim all their bulllshit has been proven and morons like you don't even bother to check if they're telling the truth.. There are two big things wrong with homeopathy; 1) it doesn't work in principle 2) it doesn't work in practice.
"The editor of the Lancel Richard Horton, gave evidence to the UK parliamentary inquiry in 2004 about drugs and the pharmaceutical industry (Select Committee on Health), you may look at the original at the UK Parliament web site
In this evidence to the select committee Horton started by stating:-- At present, our population is part of a largely unregulated experiment involving poorly investigated new medicines that have been licensed on the basis of insufficient data.
Doctors were seriously and deliberately misled. This is not an uncommon practice. Hiding negative data: The classic recent example concerned Paxil (GlaxoSmithKline). The hidden trials showed a pattern suggesting limited efficacy of the drug and risks of potentially fatal adverse effects. The available published evidence indicated a very different story.
Professor Andrew Herxheimer But the continuing privatisation of much of science (science in the service of wealth creation rather than health improvement) threatens to make independent research almost impossible to do.
He concludes by stating:-- The compromised integrity of medicine's knowledge base should be a serious concern to politicians and public alike. It is surprising and disappointing that this danger does not seem a serious priority within medicine itself.
You actually think that by pointing out some political problems encountered with real medicinal drugs it somehow makes your fake water-drug look as if it could work? Get in the fucking sack! I guess if you believe that water has a 'memory' all the real drugs are bad 'cos they're made with 'bad' water that has amnesia (due to microscopic bits of dissolved skunk weed?) Do you want to buy some diluted water?
Your 'research' = looking at a water cure website, realising that some people are stupid enough to pay for water cures and thinking "I can make a million from these suckers!" All you have to do is lie to yourself and then lie to others and try to distract and divert skeptics like me when we point out you don't even have a case in principle. There is nothing in he universe that works the LESS there is of it, like doesn't cure like and water has even less memory than the goldfish in it.
In actual trials conducted by real scientists, the homeopathic 'remedy' was found to be no more effective than the placebo. Homeopathy only appears to work because of the placebo effect. Alternative/complimentary medicine is all watered-down bullshit.
Coffee is a beverage, asshole, not a medicine. If homeopathy was real, all those people in this video would have died from fatal overdoses, but they suffered no effects at all, considering they were sleeping pills they weren't even tired. That's the acid test, and you can see that your remedy doesn't work. I've seen James Randi down a whole bottle of homeopathic sleepers and deliver a 2 hour lecture.
I met James Randi in 2007, and in his lecture said that homeopathy is pure garbage with no medicinal merit. Scientifically it makes no sense whatsoever and breaks many fundamental laws. You are deluded and you have not studied both sides of this, just the True Believer's side. Those people took a massive overdose with no effects, hence homeopathy doesn't work, period.
Coffee is not classed as a medicine but a beverage, according to homeo it should cure insomnia as long as there is not a single molecule of it left in the 'cure'. Randi is an illusionist so he is best placed to know the kind of tricks fraudsters like you try to pull to deceive others. These people ate an entire bottle of homeo not just one dose you asshole. Do you have some delusional skill in just seeing what you want to see and filtering out inconvenient items? Homeopathy is dead.
One bottle contains many pills, one is not meant to take an entire bottle for one night's sleep. I guess you believe the less one has of this watered-down bullshit the more effective it is, so the best thing is never to touch it, just drink tap water which 'remembers' everything. You're an asshole for supporting anti-science, not science. I'm not religious, quack-lover.
Anti Science? Region is having blind faith in a one view point. This is what you have because you are unaware of the complexities of this issue
1991The British Medical Journal published an analysis of 107 clinical studies published between 1966 and 1990. The authors found that in 81 of the experiments, the homeopathic treatments were successful. Even when they included only the 23 studies that they considered to be of the highest quality, the vast majority of these (15) showed positive results
......Here's how the results broke down: 13 out of the 19 trials of respiratory infection treatment were effective, 6 out of 7 were positive for other infections, 5 out of 7 were positive for digestive system treatment, 5 out of 5 were successful for hay fever, 5 out of 7 showed accelerated recovery after surgery, 4 out of 6 helped in rheumatological disease, 18 of 20 were beneficial for pain or traumatic injury; and 8 out of 10 worked for mental or psychological problems.
In another controlled study, published in 1989 in the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, 66 percent more of the Oscillococcinum group recovered within forty-eight hours as compared to the placebo group.
Clinical studies show the effectiveness of homeopathic remedies in treating infectious diseases. In a French study published in 1987, silica, prepared homeopathically to the 10c potency, stimulated macrophage activity by nearly 70 percent.
You really do need to do some research before you make blanket statements.
Homeopathic remedies were also shown to be effective in correcting immunological disorders in mice. In other studies, eight out of ten homeopathic remedies tested were able to inhibit the growth of viruses (in chicken embryos) by 50 to 100 percent.
Animals don't know what Homeopathy is, but it still seems to works on them, even their Embryos!
Like I said this topic is not as clear cut as you believe.
You talk like a religious nut, claiming if I don't accept homeopathy then I couldn't have studied it. None of the results you listed are accepted by actual medical science as the trials were not properly conducted, have subsequently failed systematic reviews and have not been able to be independently replicated and verified. That's why you only cherry-picked old studies from the 80's and 90's, as subsequent studies showed these to be deeply flawed in their methodology.
Frei H, Everts R, von Ammon K, Kaufmann F, Walther D, Hsu-Schmitz SF, Collenberg M, Fuhrer K, Hassink R, Steinlin M, Thurneysen A.
Homeopathic treatment of children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder: a randomised, double blind, placebo controlled crossover trial. Eur J Pediatr.
If you have studied the Clinical, political and industry aspects that are involved in the Homeopathic debate, you would not have the abusive attitude you have.
You are now saying that the BRITISH MEDICAL JOURNAL and the BRITISH JOURNAL OF CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGYl are not....
"accepted by actual medical science"
Please supply the independent attempts that failed to replicate these studies.
Hormesis also supports Homeopathy, a field of science that is largely ignored by Religious Skeptics.
Studies testing the effects of homeopathic medicines on cell cultures, plants, animals, physics experiments, and chemistry trials have shown statistically significant effects. Needless to say, the placebo effect in these basic science studies is virtually non-existent, while the effects from homeopathic doses are significant and sometimes substantial.
Yeah, water does affect living things, what a surprise, who would have thought creatures that evolved from aquatic ancestors would respond to water? But it doesn't cure anything except dehydration. Homeopathy is quack!
You seem to be ignoring the information I have supplied to back up my assertions yet have supplied no evidence that this is incorrect apart from your belief.
Now you are still suggesting there is no scientific evidence for Homeopathy.
Is that because you are refusing to acknowledge it?
the fda do not test all of the drug companies new drugs, they let them test them and agree with their results. i have been looking at this for nearly 30 years, and often come accross references to this fact but do not save them,maybe you could try 'drug companies false claims','drug companies marketing untested drugs', anything along those lines should bring up some info, hope this helps
i wonder has the man with the medical condition done any research into the truth of clinical trials conducted on phamacutical drugs,i think he will be in for a shock
1 - Chemically it is just sugar - no one has ever been able to tell a homeopathic sugar pill apart from an identical sugar pill under test conditions, and the same goes for homeopathic solutions.
2 - Yes, that's true.
3 - According to the label they should not touch your hands. Also, it's important to know exactly what form of energy are you talking about - kinetic energy, heat energy, potential energy etc?
4 - I wish that were true, there are several sad cases where this has not happened.
1 - You are correct, in a standard test nothing but sac lac would be detected, that doesn't mean they do not contain an energy. When a healer puts their hands on someone you cannot measure the healing energy but it is there.
3 - In my twenty years experience I have never found the handling of the remedy by the person taking it to be a problem.
4- I cannot answer for others. As a registered homeopath I follow a strict code of ethics and would never do this. It has to be a patient's choice.
So tell me, you folk who believe in homeopathy, when you have diabetes, do you rely on your sugar pills? When you (and I wouldn't wish this on anyone) are diagnosed with cancer, do you take sugar pills?
Or do you go to a doctor and get some real treatment.
Or do you continue taking sugar pills until it's too late for a doctor to do anything for you, then blame the doctor for not curing you.
jjjnettie 1 month ago
well..it works and it is cheaper than to stuff all the doctors with your good money...but go ahead...stuff it...i am shure you will run to a homeopathic doctor when your deadly sick and try everything!! you didn´t understand any thing at all and it will proof you wrong at one day....
haifischfrauen 11 months ago
@haifischfrauen nothing happens when you take lots of homeopathic pills. James Randi does it all the time on stage.
There's a reason it's not medicine.
PointlessSteel 3 months ago
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The skeptics are giving more popularity to Homeopathy!!!!
Instead of taking the medicated tabs, you could have gulped the liquid dilutions of homeopathy. Hope you will try this next time!!!
fhcnpr 1 year ago
Nice one GAV!!!
The Prof
mik99D 1 year ago
Real is scientific homeopathy. It cures even when Conventional Allopathic Medicine (CAM) fails. Evidence-based modern homeopathy is a nano-medicine bringing big results for everyone
DrNancyMalik 1 year ago
@DrNancyMalik
Please cite double blind placebo controlled clinical trials please from a respected scientific journal. Otherwise you have nothing and are making shit up.
BlindfoldedPoet 1 year ago
How sad. Before broadcasting such a huge protest, they should learn a bit more about homeopathy. For one, there is no way they will overdose by taking the full tube in one shot. That's part of the beauty of homeopathy and how safe it is. Now if they had taken 3 pills every hour until they had exhausted the tube, maybe they would have seen a reaction. Because it doesn't work like conventional medicine. It's not about how many pills you take but rather how often you dose.
elmnopq46 1 year ago
@elmnopq46
it doesn't work like conventional medicine
It doesn't work and therefore isn't conventional medicine, and so doesn't belong in a pharmacy.
(and I'm one of the protesters)
richardhealy 1 year ago
@elmnopq46 The beauty of it? are you mad? it is WATER...nothing more, nothing less. They should spend those millions on proven cancer treatments not presently funded by the NHS as not considered cast effective.
HOMEOPATHY = PILE OF SHIT. Fact!!
emilywemilynemily 1 year ago
Show us some scientific base to your claims...... oh you cant because although many have tried, noone has come up with any scientific evidence to prove your sad claim, and beleive me there are many who would like to.
amsel1970 1 year ago
good video. woooh piccadilly gardens :D
abSURDub 1 year ago
Dont fine it a complete fail. Met a few people and got to go outside and enjoy the weather. Meet new people you wouldnt have stop to talk to in the first place.
grrlogin 1 year ago
homeopathy = quackery
sillerymcgreery 1 year ago
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5 META ANALYSES showing positive results on Homeopathy.
1. Cucherat et al 2000 16 Hi-Qt studies POSITIVE.
2. Linde & Melchart 1998 32 Hi-Qt studies POSITIVE.
3. Linde et al 1997 89 studies POSITIVE.
4. Boissel et al 1996 15 Hi-Qt studies POSITIVE.
5. Kleijnen et al 1991 105 studies POSITIVE.
mohanaturo 2 years ago
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The knee-jerk shunning of contemporary Homeopathy doesn't make faith-based ancient Allopathy medicine any more powerful or provable in the correct treatment and cure of chronic diseases.
My beliefs based on faith in Allopathy have been destroyed by the logic of Homeopathy:
TREAT THE PATIENT NOT THE DISEASE.
mohanaturo 2 years ago
A study, conducted in 1985, found that patients who took the homeopathic product Oscillococcinum, derived from duck heart and liver, experienced reduction in their fever much rapidly (in two days ) than those who took placebo. Shivering disappeared by day four. In another controlled study, published in 1989 in the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, 66 percent more of the Oscillococcinum group recovered within forty-eight hours as compared to the placebo group.
mohanaturo 2 years ago
@mohanaturo Well generally that's what will happen when you properly hydrate a patient with a fever. As Oscillococcinum is just water.
cjeam9199 1 year ago
Taking one dose will not cause "overdose".
If a high dose was taken 4 times a day for several months, that would work.
But one dose, even if its a whole bottle etc, will still equal ONE dose.
If you really want to test Homeopathy try a regular dose over 4 month, but I do not recommend it.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
Homoepathy is bullshit. Now the NHS in Britain have stopped funding this quack cure we should see an end to this pseudoscientific superstitious clap-trap. As homeopathy believes the less there is of a substance the stronger it is (ROFL!) the only way to overdose is to take no remedy at all or drink a glass of tap water.
alien8ted 2 years ago
@alien8ted
Well conducted trials clinically support Homeopathy.
Politics and medicine do not mix. If they did we wouldnt have the editor of the Lancet .... cont
Kingfillins 2 years ago
"Well conducted trials clinically support Homeopathy." No they fucking well don't, that's why this watered-down bullshit is no longer funded by the NHS. That's just the bullshit that can only be found on alternative medicine websites, where they claim all their bulllshit has been proven and morons like you don't even bother to check if they're telling the truth.. There are two big things wrong with homeopathy; 1) it doesn't work in principle 2) it doesn't work in practice.
alien8ted 2 years ago
"The editor of the Lancel Richard Horton, gave evidence to the UK parliamentary inquiry in 2004 about drugs and the pharmaceutical industry (Select Committee on Health), you may look at the original at the UK Parliament web site
In this evidence to the select committee Horton started by stating:-- At present, our population is part of a largely unregulated experiment involving poorly investigated new medicines that have been licensed on the basis of insufficient data.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
Doctors were seriously and deliberately misled. This is not an uncommon practice. Hiding negative data: The classic recent example concerned Paxil (GlaxoSmithKline). The hidden trials showed a pattern suggesting limited efficacy of the drug and risks of potentially fatal adverse effects. The available published evidence indicated a very different story.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
Professor Andrew Herxheimer But the continuing privatisation of much of science (science in the service of wealth creation rather than health improvement) threatens to make independent research almost impossible to do.
He concludes by stating:-- The compromised integrity of medicine's knowledge base should be a serious concern to politicians and public alike. It is surprising and disappointing that this danger does not seem a serious priority within medicine itself.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
You actually think that by pointing out some political problems encountered with real medicinal drugs it somehow makes your fake water-drug look as if it could work? Get in the fucking sack! I guess if you believe that water has a 'memory' all the real drugs are bad 'cos they're made with 'bad' water that has amnesia (due to microscopic bits of dissolved skunk weed?) Do you want to buy some diluted water?
alien8ted 2 years ago
@alien8ted I base what I think on my research. You say "fake water-drug" , clinical trials says otherwise.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
Your 'research' = looking at a water cure website, realising that some people are stupid enough to pay for water cures and thinking "I can make a million from these suckers!" All you have to do is lie to yourself and then lie to others and try to distract and divert skeptics like me when we point out you don't even have a case in principle. There is nothing in he universe that works the LESS there is of it, like doesn't cure like and water has even less memory than the goldfish in it.
alien8ted 2 years ago
@alien8ted
I am referring to high quality clinical trials that support the effectiveness of Homeopathy above placebo.
Not my or your personal thoughts.
But I guess you are coming from a more religious perspective.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
In actual trials conducted by real scientists, the homeopathic 'remedy' was found to be no more effective than the placebo. Homeopathy only appears to work because of the placebo effect. Alternative/complimentary medicine is all watered-down bullshit.
alien8ted 2 years ago
@alien8ted
Very strict trials support Homeopathy above Placebo.
Do you drink Coffee?
That is an alternative remedy that is mainstream.
You need to do some proper research on this topic not just look at the information that supports your view point.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
Coffee is a beverage, asshole, not a medicine. If homeopathy was real, all those people in this video would have died from fatal overdoses, but they suffered no effects at all, considering they were sleeping pills they weren't even tired. That's the acid test, and you can see that your remedy doesn't work. I've seen James Randi down a whole bottle of homeopathic sleepers and deliver a 2 hour lecture.
alien8ted 2 years ago
@alien8ted
You tell that to the millions of people who cant start their day without a coffee.
Coffee is very much a medicine.
I'm an asshole for pointing out this obvious fact that contradicts your assertions?
You go research its medicinal and clinical applications if you don't know already know.
No That is not how homeopathy works. These people used ONE dose.
Even James Randi suggests Homeopathy needs further research. No one using science as an argument would ever suggest otherwise.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
I met James Randi in 2007, and in his lecture said that homeopathy is pure garbage with no medicinal merit. Scientifically it makes no sense whatsoever and breaks many fundamental laws. You are deluded and you have not studied both sides of this, just the True Believer's side. Those people took a massive overdose with no effects, hence homeopathy doesn't work, period.
alien8ted 2 years ago
@alien8ted
NO they had ONE dose that is not overdosing. Try a single dose every day 4 x a day for 4 months and see what happens.
I have studied both sides. Do you need me to post the evidence for and against or will you find it yourself?
You have been tricked by a magician fraud called James Randi.
Think for yourself.
(And the coffee fact? You didn't mention that anomaly in your reasoning.)
Kingfillins 2 years ago
Coffee is not classed as a medicine but a beverage, according to homeo it should cure insomnia as long as there is not a single molecule of it left in the 'cure'. Randi is an illusionist so he is best placed to know the kind of tricks fraudsters like you try to pull to deceive others. These people ate an entire bottle of homeo not just one dose you asshole. Do you have some delusional skill in just seeing what you want to see and filtering out inconvenient items? Homeopathy is dead.
alien8ted 2 years ago
@alien8ted
ONE BOTTLE IS ONE DOSE.
Do some research. You clearly have not done so.
You dont seem to know the basics about Homeopathy.
So what Im an "asshole" for supporting scientific trials?
If science can conclusively show Homeopathy dose not work, then fine. But it just has not done so, In fact it has shown the opposite.
It seems your mind is closed, therefore it seems you are being led by your religious prejudice, not science.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
One bottle contains many pills, one is not meant to take an entire bottle for one night's sleep. I guess you believe the less one has of this watered-down bullshit the more effective it is, so the best thing is never to touch it, just drink tap water which 'remembers' everything. You're an asshole for supporting anti-science, not science. I'm not religious, quack-lover.
alien8ted 2 years ago
Anti Science? Region is having blind faith in a one view point. This is what you have because you are unaware of the complexities of this issue
1991The British Medical Journal published an analysis of 107 clinical studies published between 1966 and 1990. The authors found that in 81 of the experiments, the homeopathic treatments were successful. Even when they included only the 23 studies that they considered to be of the highest quality, the vast majority of these (15) showed positive results
Kingfillins 2 years ago
......Here's how the results broke down: 13 out of the 19 trials of respiratory infection treatment were effective, 6 out of 7 were positive for other infections, 5 out of 7 were positive for digestive system treatment, 5 out of 5 were successful for hay fever, 5 out of 7 showed accelerated recovery after surgery, 4 out of 6 helped in rheumatological disease, 18 of 20 were beneficial for pain or traumatic injury; and 8 out of 10 worked for mental or psychological problems.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
In another controlled study, published in 1989 in the British Journal of Clinical Pharmacology, 66 percent more of the Oscillococcinum group recovered within forty-eight hours as compared to the placebo group.
Clinical studies show the effectiveness of homeopathic remedies in treating infectious diseases. In a French study published in 1987, silica, prepared homeopathically to the 10c potency, stimulated macrophage activity by nearly 70 percent.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
You really do need to do some research before you make blanket statements.
Homeopathic remedies were also shown to be effective in correcting immunological disorders in mice. In other studies, eight out of ten homeopathic remedies tested were able to inhibit the growth of viruses (in chicken embryos) by 50 to 100 percent.
Animals don't know what Homeopathy is, but it still seems to works on them, even their Embryos!
Like I said this topic is not as clear cut as you believe.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
You talk like a religious nut, claiming if I don't accept homeopathy then I couldn't have studied it. None of the results you listed are accepted by actual medical science as the trials were not properly conducted, have subsequently failed systematic reviews and have not been able to be independently replicated and verified. That's why you only cherry-picked old studies from the 80's and 90's, as subsequent studies showed these to be deeply flawed in their methodology.
alien8ted 2 years ago
Frei H, Everts R, von Ammon K, Kaufmann F, Walther D, Hsu-Schmitz SF, Collenberg M, Fuhrer K, Hassink R, Steinlin M, Thurneysen A.
Homeopathic treatment of children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder: a randomised, double blind, placebo controlled crossover trial. Eur J Pediatr.
2005; 164 (12):758-67.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
Homeopathic treatment of patients with psoriasis - a prospective observational study with 2 years follow-up
Authors: Witt, CM; Lüdtke, R1; Willich, SN2
Source: Journal of the European Academy of Dermatology & Venereology, Volume 23, Number 5, May 2009 , pp. 538-543(6)
Publisher: Blackwell Publishing
Kingfillins 2 years ago
@alien8ted
If you have studied the Clinical, political and industry aspects that are involved in the Homeopathic debate, you would not have the abusive attitude you have.
You are now saying that the BRITISH MEDICAL JOURNAL and the BRITISH JOURNAL OF CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGYl are not....
"accepted by actual medical science"
Please supply the independent attempts that failed to replicate these studies.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
Hormesis also supports Homeopathy, a field of science that is largely ignored by Religious Skeptics.
Studies testing the effects of homeopathic medicines on cell cultures, plants, animals, physics experiments, and chemistry trials have shown statistically significant effects. Needless to say, the placebo effect in these basic science studies is virtually non-existent, while the effects from homeopathic doses are significant and sometimes substantial.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
Yeah, water does affect living things, what a surprise, who would have thought creatures that evolved from aquatic ancestors would respond to water? But it doesn't cure anything except dehydration. Homeopathy is quack!
alien8ted 2 years ago
@alien8ted
Hormesis is not plain water.
You seem to be ignoring the information I have supplied to back up my assertions yet have supplied no evidence that this is incorrect apart from your belief.
Now you are still suggesting there is no scientific evidence for Homeopathy.
Is that because you are refusing to acknowledge it?
Or because it actually does not exist?
Kingfillins 2 years ago
Because there is no scientific evidence that homeopathy works. It's a blatant con. You've been had. Period.
alien8ted 2 years ago
@alien8ted
So this study from last year does not exist or did not happen????........
Homeopathic treatment of patients with psoriasis - a prospective observational study with 2 years follow-up
Authors: Witt, CM; Lüdtke, R1; Willich, SN2
Source: Journal of the European Academy of Dermatology & Venereology, Volume 23, Number 5, May 2009 , pp. 538-543(6)
Kingfillins 2 years ago 6
@alien8ted
Show me the conclusive evidence to back up your assertion, you seem to have it, so where is it?
This is not about me "being had", its about science either conclusively supporting your assertion. or not.
Where is your evidence?
Kingfillins 2 years ago
@alien8ted How can we actually be sure what is the truth with such a corrupt medical and scientific community?
Homeopathy has been shown to have effect Clinically THAT IS A FACT.
Any respectable scientist would recommenced further study.
Kingfillins 2 years ago
Are doctors that treat cancer homeopaths, as they treat cancer with the very things that course it? i e radio therapy and chemo,
relearnitall 2 years ago
the fda do not test all of the drug companies new drugs, they let them test them and agree with their results. i have been looking at this for nearly 30 years, and often come accross references to this fact but do not save them,maybe you could try 'drug companies false claims','drug companies marketing untested drugs', anything along those lines should bring up some info, hope this helps
brettlycett 2 years ago
they buy ten gramms of milksugar for 5 Pounds, very scientific, indeed.
etiterum 2 years ago
i wonder has the man with the medical condition done any research into the truth of clinical trials conducted on phamacutical drugs,i think he will be in for a shock
brettlycett 2 years ago
If you have any relevant links, I can pass them on.
ManchesterSkeptics 2 years ago
i took a course of homeopathic weight loss tablets and lost 20 pounds.........20 pounds and 35 pence to be precise. ;-)
MasterOfSuprise 2 years ago 15
I do wish you guys would do some research and get your facts right before trying to do an "experiment".
1) the remedies are not just water, they are water + alcohol + POTENTISED substance = homeopathic remedy.
2) We are homeopaths not homeopathist
3) It is okay for the person taking the tablets to touch the tablets but it is better not to allow anothers engery to come into contact.
4) No registered homeopath takes anyone off medication without consultation with their GP. first.
arnicaworks 2 years ago
1 - Chemically it is just sugar - no one has ever been able to tell a homeopathic sugar pill apart from an identical sugar pill under test conditions, and the same goes for homeopathic solutions.
2 - Yes, that's true.
3 - According to the label they should not touch your hands. Also, it's important to know exactly what form of energy are you talking about - kinetic energy, heat energy, potential energy etc?
4 - I wish that were true, there are several sad cases where this has not happened.
ManchesterSkeptics 2 years ago 2
1 - You are correct, in a standard test nothing but sac lac would be detected, that doesn't mean they do not contain an energy. When a healer puts their hands on someone you cannot measure the healing energy but it is there.
3 - In my twenty years experience I have never found the handling of the remedy by the person taking it to be a problem.
4- I cannot answer for others. As a registered homeopath I follow a strict code of ethics and would never do this. It has to be a patient's choice.
arnicaworks 2 years ago
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@MasterOfSuprise " i took a course of homeopathic weight loss tablets and lost 20 pounds.........20 pounds and 35 pence to be precise. ;-)"
Did you put socks on every day?
exposefraud 1 year ago
nice vid
m1ll10n1977 2 years ago
Good work guys :)
Answersinbooks 2 years ago 3
Nice.
ScientificIlliteracy 2 years ago
Outstanding!
Critical thought eh? Wonder when the rest of the country will dabble with it!
skyjen 2 years ago 2