Racist Australian KFC Commercial (Jim and Them Commentary)

[Minervasux]

Until I watched this, I didn't even know that they don't even have chips at the American KFC.

But to be fair, I never saw any chips when there was KFC in American TV shows like the Simpsons and South Park; and also, when I was on holiday in Thailand, I noticed that the menus at fast food joints were quite different from those here in Australia; so I guess I should've known.

[Rejukem]

Dear lord, all the comments are Houstain vs y9dnkbe. It's a title match for a big payoff: the youtube debate crown. The payoff is worth absolutely nothing.

[MrAfroMonkee]

Just a joke, chill out guys

[Fongfongmc]

australia does not share the whole 'black people love chicken' thing with america. australia is a completely different fucking country after all. just showing your ignorance. you may also be referring to 'african americans'. west indians are not african americans. your ignorance is astounding. stick to what you know. which evidently is not much

[SSTTEEAALLTTHH]

Maybe this is because I'm not Australian (I'm from Belgium), but what the fuck is racist about this?

[bobog26]

@SSTTEEAALLTTHH Well he (the aussie fuckhead) is stuck in an awefull situation (surrounded by black people). He would rather be surrounded by some aussie trailer trash like the rest of his inbreed convent friends

[SSTTEEAALLTTHH]

@bobog26

Aren't you a little old to be trolling?

[imogapils]

Shows what a sad, PC world of whingers we live in. Black people in the USA getting upset about an ad on the other side of the world they have no understanding about, all because it features other black people.

[blusuck]

the reason the crowd is black is because at the time west indies were the touring side nd he was an aussie fan in amongst WI fans and KFC is one of the major sponsors of cricket in australia.

this ad was played mostly during the ads(commercials) during a match

[douglifelsh]

@1:26 I cannot stop laughing at that. It may be the funniest thing I've heard all year.

[y9dnkbe]

That commercial isnt even slightly racist. Not even a little bit. So far not a single person has been able to explain why this is racist, not one.

[Houstain]

@y9dnkbe It is playing on the racial stereotype that Black love chicken. This ads purports that negative racial stereotype and thus makes racist. Now if there had been people from all races in the crowd it would have just been a play on cricket fans but they specifically put him in a crowd of black people who are pacified by the presence of fried chicken. It is extremely self explanatory... Are you happy with that explanation or should I use a picture book instead?

[y9dnkbe]

@Houstain No, because your 'explanation' is very ignorant. The stereotype you're referring to is that 'African-Americans' love chicken, not every person with a dark complexion on earth. As these people are clearly not African American the stereotype doesn't apply. Very, very simple.

[Houstain]

@y9dnkbe No the stereotype is black people love chicken, you are trying to make it more politically correct by using the term African American. African American is a generalized term anyway. I am also aware of the fact that not everyone with a "dark" complexion is African American nor are they apart of the stereotype. I think the term African American is an ignorant term as not all black people come from America, I should know as I'm Canadian but not African-Canadian... You are wrong.

[y9dnkbe]

@Houstain The stereotype is about American people of African decent. Im not making in more PC by using any term. Its an American stereotype that came about during the time of slavery. So if you are aware that not every black person is included in the stereotype then how is it offensive? It isnt even playing on that stereotype, its not "a crowd of black people who are pacified by the presence of fried chicken" - its two opposing teams, one member of one in a crowd of another. Simple for most.

[Houstain]

@y9dnkbe So you're arguing context then. Because it's was for a cricket match it's not racist. That is bullshit logic. Take the exact same scenario and remove the cricket jerseys and now what is the commercial? Still not racist? Put instead a celebration for the emancipation of the West Indies from the slave overs who brought them over from AFRICA, and now have the guy give them a bucket a chicken in which all celebration stops, you tell me that's it's not racist?

[y9dnkbe]

@Houstain No, im arguing that its not racist, as race has not got anything to do with the 'plot'. Your arguments are getting less and less relivent. Oh, so if we change the content of the commercial it can be made racist? lets stick to whats there, not what you want to be there. He isnt 'calming' them, nor is he stopping the celebration. Hes sharing chicken and bringing them all together. Im not saying its clever or realistic, but thats whats happening in it. Its extremely self explanatory.

[Houstain]

@y9dnkbe They are celebrating and he is not. They are having a great time. He pulls out a bucket of chicken and all of them stop (0:25) and start reaching for chicken, abandoning their celebrations/dancing. The guy is now happy and there is no more bucket/music/dancing. His line, "too easy". As in too easy to pacify the crowd who happen to all black (not everyone who cheers for the West Indies are black). Just because the racism is subtle doesn't make it not racist, that is what you fail to see.

[y9dnkbe]

@Houstain He is not celebrating because he is an Australian supporter - nothing to do with race. They are watching a game Not every person in the crowd is black either, look to the far left of the screen in the same row as the "white guy". The 'chicken' stereotype isnt in the ad as no one in the commercial is portrayed as African American. I can only see whats in the commercial, twice you have suggested changing what is presented in order to add a racist argument.

[Houstain]

@y9dnkbe And twice now I've been dumbfounded by what you think African American is? Please enlighten me? The stereotype is black people in general not just black Americans. I'm black and Canadian yet that same stereotype is used against me. The west indies blacks are from the same place as the American blacks. Both were brought as slaves. I have changed nothing in what is presented. I have merely brought to light the racial undertones which you seem to overlook and disregard.

[y9dnkbe]

@Houstain "African Americans (also referred to as Black Americans or Afro-Americans, and formerly as American Negroes) are citizens or residents of the United States who have origins in any of the black populations of Africa." - Wikipedia. The only people the stereotype is about is African-Americans. Someone using it against African-Canadian is wrong, in the context of the stereotype. You have changed two things. How do you know what 'too easy' means? and hes happy there is no celebrating?

[Houstain]

@y9dnkbe If you knew the stereotype you'd drop this whole African American thing. The stereotype is black people love fried chicken, whether or not this originated in the USA is irrelevant as being a black person is based solely on ancestry and to a lesser extent colour of skin. You are wrong in your assumption that the stereotype only purports to Americans. I am using the context of the situation to define what I think he means by too easy and happy/no celebrating[music/dancing] (0:25 - 0:27)

[y9dnkbe]

@Houstain It's only in America, if people use is outside they are doing so incorrectly (in the context of the stereotype). It's not 'assumption' it's researched fact. You 'using the context to define what you think he means' bullshit is the text book definition of assumption. You are assuming it's racist because if the ad had a white American and black Americans it may be perceived as racist. Your arguments are an absolute joke.

[Houstain]

@y9dnkbe My arguments are sound. You have the fallacious arguments. While the stereotype may have come from the southern USA, because frying chicken was a cheap way of cooking it, doesn't mean the stereotype hasn't evolved to include the rest of the black community regardless of geological location. You fail to understand this most basic element of the stereotype and thus your view of the commercial is skewed. I know the where West Indies are as my heritage is there. You arguments are not valid

[y9dnkbe]

@Houstain Your arguments are based on your assumptions, you practically admitted that. Your credibility is greatly damaged by the fact your assumptions show you want this to have the 'racial undertones' that you want them to. You are too 'proud' youve made a mistake, which is fine, but weve now gone from 'extremely self explanatory' to 'subliminal messages'

[Houstain]

@y9dnkbe You're arguments are hinder by the FACT that the stereotype applies to black people from all geographic locations and has evolved past what you perceive to be it only applying to Americans. That is one of the fundamental issues to the racist/not racist. I am correct in stating that the stereotype is used for all black people. Once you accept that truth, for it is, regardless of the accuracy of using the stereotype within the correct context it was created in, the commercial is racist.

[irishgodfatherchris]

@Houstain so your telling us that we can't show the West Indian fans for what they are (festive and always have been even when they lose) because it may upset Americans and in your case Canadians.

[daymyth]

@Houstain Hi, fyi, I'm Australian and "black people like chicken" is an American thing. That at the time of this add, was not a prevalent sterotype in Australia. It is subtly being introduced into Australia through American television, mainly comedies.

[Fongfongmc]

@Houstain you are a moron!!!! how does the term african AMERICAN include black people in general? the fact that it has 'american' in the title should be enough. you are clearly just one of those people that looks for the racist undertones that may not necessarily be there. it was not intended to be racist. australia was versing the west indies in a cricket series at the time this ad was shown. australia does NOT share the whole 'black people love chicken' shit

[Houstain]

@y9dnkbe All the people in the shot are black, some are light skinned and some are darker.

[y9dnkbe]

@Houstain Research their family trees did ya? doesnt matter anyway, it shows a diversity of west indian fans in west india (where the ad was both filmed and set and aired). Their race isnt important to the commercial, what is important is they are celebrating, and the Aussie is not, then he shares around some KFC and they are all friends. Its dumb, but makes far more sense than to make a subtly racist commercial to insult a team they sponsor using a stereotype that doesn't apply doesn't it?

[Houstain]

@y9dnkbe Wikipedia cannot be used as a primary source, sorry I don't make the rules I just know them. Do you even know where the West Indies are? No where near West India, no such thing as West Indian in regards to the West Indies. That is the basic view of the commercial, but advertising is always deeper. Subliminal messaging appears in ads around the world every day. I find it hard to believe people still take ads at face value in this day and age.

[y9dnkbe]

@Houstain The rules of what? Sounds like 'make them up' is exactly what youve done. You genuinely think West Indians and Australians got together to make a subliminally racist commercial based on a stereotype that it didn't apply to, on the chance someone who knew the stereotype on the other side of the world might get offended by it? really? get help...

[Houstain]

@y9dnkbe Make them up? Have you ever written a essay for a university course? Wikipedia cannot be used as a primary source because the information on it can be edited by the general populace and thus cannot be held to be correct. The links to the research a Wikipedia article holds can be used as primary sources but Wikipedia itself cannot. Stereotypes are funny to most, comedians use them all the time. Using this one might get laughs out of people, but it is still racist.

[y9dnkbe]

@Houstain This is hardly a university essay. And no, it inst racist just because you think it is. Youve shown beyond any doubt you are prone to assumptions. You have failed to explain why its racist, only that you think it is because in Canada people wrongly use a stereotype that this commercial could be mistaken to vaguely resemble. You've definitely managed to get a laugh out of me.

[Houstain]

@y9dnkbe No it isn't an essay but that doesn't change the fact the Wikipedia shouldn't be used as a primary source. You have proven the "beyond a doubt" there are people in this world who are so dense that they fail to realize that things, like stereotypes, evolve. You have also assumed just as many things and are similarly guilty. I'm glad I gave you a laugh because you are a sad, sad person. The stereotype is used against black people from Canada to Chile, from Norway to New Zealand.

[y9dnkbe]

@Houstain If you dont like Wikipedia's definition of 'African-American' go change it, youre free to do so. Ive assumed nothing, im describing whats there. Im not telling you what 'too easy' means. Im telling you the setting as this was part of a series of similar commercials, all aired in both countries during the West-Indian/Australian Test Match. You are uneducated about the commercial, and when the facts dont fit your assumptions the way you want you resent it. Now that's sad.

[eajjoutlaw]

@y9dnkbe holy fucking shit houstain. keep your unwanted intel to yourself. a joke is a joke for those who get it. if you dont get it, dont give birth to a fucking cow and rape everybody with your mind.

[DeafFret]

You guys know nothing about cricket, or traditional fan behaviour at test matches. You know nothing about politics in Australia, yet presume to offer an opinion on it, the wisest comment anyone offered there is "I don't know" at 03:58. Your own caricatures of Australians are actually pretty racist in themselves.

[spankycorkforker]

@DeafFret australian is a nationality mate crikee calm down

[Houstain]

@DeafFret Heads up when throwing around the race card... Australians are not a race of people... Just to let you know. Aborigines are, Aussies are not... Cheers!

[motivatedsoda]

haha, mike. "no YOU missed the point!"

[Schwartzhund]

You guys never cease to crack me the fuck up. I had actually seen this commercial before on youtube and couldn't believe the racism myself. Nice commentary!

[pentagramrises]

fucking love this