His whole motto is this Stalinist BS about 'sacrifice for the greater good'... Looks like Ron Paul will be the only conservative for 08, which is good, because I like him =)
Or you can just follow the rule of law and not give incentives to the illegal immigrants who are here to stay here or come here in the first place. You can reform welfare programs like social security, medicaid etc. You can deny them public schooling. You can deny them food stamps or any help at all. My god, this guy is a moron. Amnesty is such a stupid and leftist position. He doesn't even want to secure our borders, and yet he's "conservative"? LOL.
Well, I do hate Clinton but...it turned out to be true. So why isn't he answering questions about it? I want to know why Fred Thompson lobbied for an abortion activist group!
Duncan Hunter is the candidate of choice for conservatives. View Thompson's record on amnesties at Americans for Better Immigration. Thompson voted for an amnesty to illegal aliens from Nicaragua and Cuba. Sen. Thompson voted for a procedural move that helped allow the Mack Amendment to be included in S.1156. This amendment granted amnesty to illegal aliens from Nicaragua and Cuba and added close to one million people to U.S. population.
Fred Thompson is a hypocrite. We would not have 12 to 20 million illegals if you would not have contributed to an "open borders" immigration when you were in the Senate. This is why Americans for Better Immigration gave you a grade of "C". America has had enough rhetoric from political hypocrites. Stay on TV and stop "acting" like you're a conservative you fraud.
Fred is just another corporate bitch, masquerading as a man of substance. Wipe that white stuff off of your chin Fred and brush up on your next script... you're far more appealing in character.
Why can't someone just say it...."I'm all for legal immigration" Illegal immigration is wrong and must stop. If I entered an county in Europe to work illegally and was caught doing so I'd be deported, charged or asked to leave...or all of the above : ) If you want to save your country...vote Ron Paul!
This is all we need. Another neo-conartist straight out of the Council on Foreign Relations. The same people who brought us the Federal Reserve, One World Government Bullcrap! There is nothing about this actor that would benefit the American people. He's a phony. A wolf in sheep's clothing. Just another neo-con Trotskyite, as un-American as they come.
NO! DAMN IT NO! YOU CANT REWARD THESE PEOPLE. You must secure the border and ENFORCe laws at the worksite. THEY WILL GO HOME ON THEIR OWN. Damn, I htought we had someone different with Thompson. Oh well...
Absolutely!!! You don't give these law breakers any path to citizenship any more then anyone else! Enforce the boarder, put the employers of illegals in jail, cut all the benefits, and change the anchor baby law, and 90% of them go back to Mexico on their own...we depot the rest. So far Ron Paul is the only one for all of this, Hunter and Tancredo never say a word about the anchor baby law.
we realize all of this fred, so, what the hell is your solution? you got any, or are you just gonna present the problems and run on that? come on fred, we need more substance from you...get the law & order guys to write a fictional script for you if you don't have one of you're own...the're very creative.
and i have a bridge in brooklyn, chukmaty, i can sell you for $1. also, foley & livingston were upstanding congressman, vitter is someone we should all look up to for moral guidance, and swaggart, haggard and bakker are exemplairy baptist preachers who are role models all in america should take after.
republicans are a moral desease on this country full of lies, deceite, hate and bigotry. all will be gone in 08.
It is sad how individuals in this country are morally so shallow, couldn't agree with you more. Thinking that only Republicans fit this category is silly and it shows how disconnected from reality you are. Time to stop reading Move On dot org and realize that bad politics is rampant on both sides of the fence.
not only republicans fit this category, but they set themselves up as the moral compass of this country, so they take the biggest fall. clinton who is always compared to with the barrage of neo con cheaters never said he was the moral compass & he would work to impose his values on the usa. only republicans "with god on their side" have the balls to do that, and fuck around on their wives.
Then learn to spot someone who is a moral compass truly, because most of these fakers were easy to spot a million miles away, especially Haggard. It is also sad to see Clintons who make no claims to any sort of moral standards actually having power at one time, think about how harmful to our country that was, made lying under oath and cheating on his wife popular ol Bill.
what the hell is your point. do you spend your time researching all members of congress and whether they are a moral compass. kid, you said both sides to it, but i had to point out reps say they appoint themselves as moral compasses. have you taken a course in logic yet. you make absolutely no sense. it's useless arguing with a child.
If you say so man, I usually focus on the ones that I vote for. There have been many people who hold themselves accountable that don't end up in the news because they aren't somehow corrupt... Vitter is screwed, I feel bad fo him, I feel wosre for his supporters because they have been lied to. I agree with you in that at least the Clintons do less to cover up the fact that they are complete scum.
Fred Thompson had some shady issues with his first wife. Independent reports claim that he paid her off during his senate years so she would shut up. They didn't say he cheated on her but...they didn't say he didn't.
This is kind of "shady" in an of itself. "Independent reports" but out by whom, on whose behalf? When it comes to this kind of thing, I'm from Missouri.
I'm from a red state and proud of it bub. Democrats like you want Fred Thompson to win because he supports a liberal agenda, but I'm not going for it.
I would never vote for anyone who molested children. And I would never vote for Fred Thompson either. Its time to put "Mark Foley" politics to rest. Us conservatives need to send creepy uncle Thompson back to his Amnesty-loving Hollywood home, before he turns our great nation into California.
baitkenh, you talked about never voting for child molestors in one breath, then spoke of Sen. Thompson as "creepy old Uncle Fred" in the next, all while denouncing what you called "Mark Foley politics". Now, given all that, a prudent man might think you were making accusations. Accusations that you are now backing off from, at warp speed, while attempting to throw tinfoil in the radar, so to speak.
blbaskind, I never accused anyone of anything. Maybe you should get an ATTORNEY to help you figure that out. Maybe get a little closer to the screen. In the meantime, you should stop talking about whether or not you think Fred Thompson is a child molestor. Although I admit, he looks kinda creepy.
You're a good sport :) You keep talking about whether Fred Thompson was a child molestor. Again, I don't know. As for Fred Thompson paying off his first wife, I'm looking for the link to send you.
that's right, when your republican politicians screw up morally, and they do it all the time, blame it on the dems. you guys have got to get another line. we americans are tired you your party fucking up and then blame it on the dems. your party of so called christians are nothing but sex pig amoral bigots and liars. you fooled america with god on your side once, and that was enough.
shit, thompson does not belong in hollywood. send him back to that christian land known as tennessee. the good people of calif, don't want that liar there.
I have had my disagreements, doctrinal and otherwise, with those deemed by some "leaders" of Christ's church, but I myself am a Christian. I hope that doesn't creep you out.
of course it creeps me out. anytime someone knowingly supports and gives money to a bigoted, hateful, lying organization, i tend to shy away from them. southern baptist christians lead the way in all three of the adjectives.
Since I deny being bigoted, hateful, or a liar, and no one in my church is any of those, you might want to find a more reliasble source of information.
because you say you and your local church are not lying, bigoted or hateful, i can now take it that southern baptists christian are none of the above. sorry, but unlike southern christians, i don't believe a word coming from christians. you base your information in only personal experience, not fact. again, southern baptists christians are bigoted, hateful and liars. that's a known fact!
finally you realize what i am saying. and isn't that a sad commentary on what southern baptist christians have turned into. when you bigots care more about the less fortunate, sick, poor et al, and not bullshit like gay rights and pro choice issues, (the only issues they can easily rais millions of $ on),then you might be looked at with credibility. you're group is just plain hateful and bigoted.
Homosexuality is named sin by Scripture. In fact, it is called an abomination in the OT, and un-natural in the NT. As for your other concerns, there are many, many ministries to the poor, ill, et al -- they just don't draw the attention of the media vultures.
You talk about bigotry of others when in fact through your generalizations have shown that you are the very enbodyment of bigot. I am sorry for you, even more so for your family, I am sure you have no friends.
absolutely right chuk. i am very, very bigoted when it comes to southern baptists christians. they have not learned one fucking think about equality since the civil war. they stood in the way of equal rights for blacks in the 50/60's and they now stand in the way for gays, jews, and now mormons. please give me a fucking break. they are a bunch of ignorant haters, and most of america knows it.
You need to work on that... Mike Huckabee did more for the people of New Orleans than the Federal government, arguably. He is in fact a former Southern Baptist preacher. Not being a Southern Baptist I naturally disagree with many of them, but to generalize like you have and to spew so much pointless hate boggles my mind. You need help. No one really cares what you think. Have fun wasting your life being a Nazi.
sorry chuk, it's YOU who has to "work on that" because you are ignorant and undeucated about religion, don't try to push your bullshit on others. btw, i do belive in god and christ,but i don't believe in bullshit, and only ignorant people are southern baptist christians. and i do mean ignorant.
excuse me, why forgive people who are not good, and don't want to be? you're ignorant to the motives of these people, and until they are roundly surpressed, i will contintue to demonize them with gusto.
I am sorry, it is apparent your motives are only good and loving and you fairly judge all people for who they individually are.. how could i ever have misread you... you are in fact a wonderful person who is constantly good and fair...
funny, then why does your group lie? when you ask for a direct answer, your group refuses, when you talk about southern baptist christians trying to dictate law, they refuse to talk about it. when they insist their religious icons be placed i PUBLIC buildings, that i helped pay for they are indignant. lets take facts here, not the goodness of your bullshit religion. there is no goodness, only power.
bullshit. he is a lazy holier than thou politican with no real solutions. no one knows a lick about this actor. you chukmaty are crazy to be for this unknown at this early stage. btw, this blow hard doesnot have a showball's chance in hell.
Conservative? Fred Thompson? LMAO. He wants amnesty in his own words....speaks against it too...flip flop. ah whatver they want to hear.
14Franky 4 years ago
Passionate supporter of states rights. (Jun 2007)
Term limits counter professionalization of politics. (May 2007)
Voted YES on banning "soft money" contributions and restricting issue ads. (Mar 2002)
Voted YES on require photo ID (not just signature) for voter registration. (Feb 2002)
Voted YES on banning campaign donations from unions & corporations. (Apr 2001)
Voted YES on favoring 1997 McCain-Feingold overhaul of campaign finance. (Oct 1997)
FRED08
libralssuck 4 years ago
Anyone who thinks this guy is actually a conservative must be a complete moron.
bobmurphATL 4 years ago 2
His whole motto is this Stalinist BS about 'sacrifice for the greater good'... Looks like Ron Paul will be the only conservative for 08, which is good, because I like him =)
libertyalex 4 years ago 3
Or you can just follow the rule of law and not give incentives to the illegal immigrants who are here to stay here or come here in the first place. You can reform welfare programs like social security, medicaid etc. You can deny them public schooling. You can deny them food stamps or any help at all. My god, this guy is a moron. Amnesty is such a stupid and leftist position. He doesn't even want to secure our borders, and yet he's "conservative"? LOL.
UnhealthySalad 4 years ago
Fuck this idiot! He's like McCain. NO TO THOMPSON!
Ron Paul 08
cleftronix 4 years ago 4
ron paul 2008!!!!!!!!!!!power to the resistance
factorywolf 4 years ago
What I really want to know is WHY did Fred Thompson support an pro-abortion activist group in the early 90's? That's pretty creepy if you ask me.
baitkenh 4 years ago
That story was put out by supporters of Sen. Clinton.
blbaskind 4 years ago
Well, I do hate Clinton but...it turned out to be true. So why isn't he answering questions about it? I want to know why Fred Thompson lobbied for an abortion activist group!
baitkenh 4 years ago
Duncan Hunter is the candidate of choice for conservatives. View Thompson's record on amnesties at Americans for Better Immigration. Thompson voted for an amnesty to illegal aliens from Nicaragua and Cuba. Sen. Thompson voted for a procedural move that helped allow the Mack Amendment to be included in S.1156. This amendment granted amnesty to illegal aliens from Nicaragua and Cuba and added close to one million people to U.S. population.
conservativegrunt 4 years ago
Fred Thompson is a hypocrite. We would not have 12 to 20 million illegals if you would not have contributed to an "open borders" immigration when you were in the Senate. This is why Americans for Better Immigration gave you a grade of "C". America has had enough rhetoric from political hypocrites. Stay on TV and stop "acting" like you're a conservative you fraud.
gchuggins 4 years ago
He didn't say anything I don't know why politicians bother speaking they're all just sound bites
brick4sale 4 years ago
Fred is just another corporate bitch, masquerading as a man of substance. Wipe that white stuff off of your chin Fred and brush up on your next script... you're far more appealing in character.
One5thOfWhiskey 4 years ago
Why can't someone just say it...."I'm all for legal immigration" Illegal immigration is wrong and must stop. If I entered an county in Europe to work illegally and was caught doing so I'd be deported, charged or asked to leave...or all of the above : ) If you want to save your country...vote Ron Paul!
ariieess 4 years ago
This is all we need. Another neo-conartist straight out of the Council on Foreign Relations. The same people who brought us the Federal Reserve, One World Government Bullcrap! There is nothing about this actor that would benefit the American people. He's a phony. A wolf in sheep's clothing. Just another neo-con Trotskyite, as un-American as they come.
Support Ron Paul!!
1951patriot 4 years ago
Fred for Amnesty! wow, what a scumbag.
Busykid2k 4 years ago
NO! DAMN IT NO! YOU CANT REWARD THESE PEOPLE. You must secure the border and ENFORCe laws at the worksite. THEY WILL GO HOME ON THEIR OWN. Damn, I htought we had someone different with Thompson. Oh well...
cleftronix 4 years ago
Absolutely!!! You don't give these law breakers any path to citizenship any more then anyone else! Enforce the boarder, put the employers of illegals in jail, cut all the benefits, and change the anchor baby law, and 90% of them go back to Mexico on their own...we depot the rest. So far Ron Paul is the only one for all of this, Hunter and Tancredo never say a word about the anchor baby law.
kukulcan12 4 years ago
we realize all of this fred, so, what the hell is your solution? you got any, or are you just gonna present the problems and run on that? come on fred, we need more substance from you...get the law & order guys to write a fictional script for you if you don't have one of you're own...the're very creative.
wntoply6 4 years ago
He will enforce the law and see a fence get built...
chukmaty 4 years ago
and i have a bridge in brooklyn, chukmaty, i can sell you for $1. also, foley & livingston were upstanding congressman, vitter is someone we should all look up to for moral guidance, and swaggart, haggard and bakker are exemplairy baptist preachers who are role models all in america should take after.
republicans are a moral desease on this country full of lies, deceite, hate and bigotry. all will be gone in 08.
wntoply6 4 years ago
It is sad how individuals in this country are morally so shallow, couldn't agree with you more. Thinking that only Republicans fit this category is silly and it shows how disconnected from reality you are. Time to stop reading Move On dot org and realize that bad politics is rampant on both sides of the fence.
chukmaty 4 years ago
not only republicans fit this category, but they set themselves up as the moral compass of this country, so they take the biggest fall. clinton who is always compared to with the barrage of neo con cheaters never said he was the moral compass & he would work to impose his values on the usa. only republicans "with god on their side" have the balls to do that, and fuck around on their wives.
wntoply6 4 years ago
Then learn to spot someone who is a moral compass truly, because most of these fakers were easy to spot a million miles away, especially Haggard. It is also sad to see Clintons who make no claims to any sort of moral standards actually having power at one time, think about how harmful to our country that was, made lying under oath and cheating on his wife popular ol Bill.
chukmaty 4 years ago
what the hell is your point. do you spend your time researching all members of congress and whether they are a moral compass. kid, you said both sides to it, but i had to point out reps say they appoint themselves as moral compasses. have you taken a course in logic yet. you make absolutely no sense. it's useless arguing with a child.
wntoply6 4 years ago
If you say so man, I usually focus on the ones that I vote for. There have been many people who hold themselves accountable that don't end up in the news because they aren't somehow corrupt... Vitter is screwed, I feel bad fo him, I feel wosre for his supporters because they have been lied to. I agree with you in that at least the Clintons do less to cover up the fact that they are complete scum.
chukmaty 4 years ago
Fred Thompson had some shady issues with his first wife. Independent reports claim that he paid her off during his senate years so she would shut up. They didn't say he cheated on her but...they didn't say he didn't.
baitkenh 4 years ago
This is kind of "shady" in an of itself. "Independent reports" but out by whom, on whose behalf? When it comes to this kind of thing, I'm from Missouri.
blbaskind 4 years ago
Independent reports, as in NOT CONTROLLED BY THE CORPORATE EMPIRE. I'll find the story again and send you the link.
baitkenh 4 years ago
"Corporate Empire" indeed. Like a litt;e more RED in the flag, would you?
blbaskind 4 years ago
I'm from a red state and proud of it bub. Democrats like you want Fred Thompson to win because he supports a liberal agenda, but I'm not going for it.
baitkenh 4 years ago
I would never vote for anyone who molested children. And I would never vote for Fred Thompson either. Its time to put "Mark Foley" politics to rest. Us conservatives need to send creepy uncle Thompson back to his Amnesty-loving Hollywood home, before he turns our great nation into California.
baitkenh 4 years ago
baitkenh, are you accusing Fred Thompson of being a child molestor?
blbaskind 4 years ago
I didn't accuse anyone of anything jerk, read it again. Would you vote for someone that molested children? I'm never voting for "creepy uncle Fred".
baitkenh 4 years ago
If you're not accusing him, why ask the question you do? Grow up and GET A LIFE!
blbaskind 4 years ago
If you're going to accuse Fred Thompson of molesting children, post the links so we can reference it.
If you're going to accuse me of anything, you should back it up too.
baitkenh 4 years ago
baitkenh, you talked about never voting for child molestors in one breath, then spoke of Sen. Thompson as "creepy old Uncle Fred" in the next, all while denouncing what you called "Mark Foley politics". Now, given all that, a prudent man might think you were making accusations. Accusations that you are now backing off from, at warp speed, while attempting to throw tinfoil in the radar, so to speak.
As the young folk would say, you are so busted!
blbaskind 4 years ago
blbaskind, I never accused anyone of anything. Maybe you should get an ATTORNEY to help you figure that out. Maybe get a little closer to the screen. In the meantime, you should stop talking about whether or not you think Fred Thompson is a child molestor. Although I admit, he looks kinda creepy.
baitkenh 4 years ago
You're the one as brought the subject up, but I'm willing to drop it if you will.
blbaskind 4 years ago
Well if you want to know whether Fred Thompson molested children, you should seek out that information. I really don't know.
baitkenh 4 years ago
I didn't bring that up, bub -- YOU did. Now, about the allegation that he "paid off" his first wife -- got proof?
blbaskind 4 years ago
You're a good sport :) You keep talking about whether Fred Thompson was a child molestor. Again, I don't know. As for Fred Thompson paying off his first wife, I'm looking for the link to send you.
baitkenh 4 years ago
Don't argue with BAITkehn... he is just arround to annoy people... anything he says is total garbage.
chukmaty 4 years ago
that's right, when your republican politicians screw up morally, and they do it all the time, blame it on the dems. you guys have got to get another line. we americans are tired you your party fucking up and then blame it on the dems. your party of so called christians are nothing but sex pig amoral bigots and liars. you fooled america with god on your side once, and that was enough.
wntoply6 4 years ago
I'm a Republican, and I am sick of hearing about Fred Thompson. I just want to send that creepy old man back to Hollywood where he belongs.
baitkenh 4 years ago
shit, thompson does not belong in hollywood. send him back to that christian land known as tennessee. the good people of calif, don't want that liar there.
wntoply6 4 years ago
I get the feeling that you have ISSUES, shall we say, with Christians and Christianity generally. Am I right?
blbaskind 4 years ago
YOU should have issues with christian leaders and christianity in general. if you don't you're a nutcase!
wntoply6 4 years ago
I have had my disagreements, doctrinal and otherwise, with those deemed by some "leaders" of Christ's church, but I myself am a Christian. I hope that doesn't creep you out.
blbaskind 4 years ago
of course it creeps me out. anytime someone knowingly supports and gives money to a bigoted, hateful, lying organization, i tend to shy away from them. southern baptist christians lead the way in all three of the adjectives.
wntoply6 4 years ago
Since I deny being bigoted, hateful, or a liar, and no one in my church is any of those, you might want to find a more reliasble source of information.
blbaskind 4 years ago
because you say you and your local church are not lying, bigoted or hateful, i can now take it that southern baptists christian are none of the above. sorry, but unlike southern christians, i don't believe a word coming from christians. you base your information in only personal experience, not fact. again, southern baptists christians are bigoted, hateful and liars. that's a known fact!
wntoply6 4 years ago
Funny... you don't believe anything a Christian says, yet we're the ones who believe that God commanded us not to lie. Funny old world.....
blbaskind 4 years ago
finally you realize what i am saying. and isn't that a sad commentary on what southern baptist christians have turned into. when you bigots care more about the less fortunate, sick, poor et al, and not bullshit like gay rights and pro choice issues, (the only issues they can easily rais millions of $ on),then you might be looked at with credibility. you're group is just plain hateful and bigoted.
wntoply6 4 years ago
Homosexuality is named sin by Scripture. In fact, it is called an abomination in the OT, and un-natural in the NT. As for your other concerns, there are many, many ministries to the poor, ill, et al -- they just don't draw the attention of the media vultures.
blbaskind 4 years ago
You talk about bigotry of others when in fact through your generalizations have shown that you are the very enbodyment of bigot. I am sorry for you, even more so for your family, I am sure you have no friends.
chukmaty 4 years ago
absolutely right chuk. i am very, very bigoted when it comes to southern baptists christians. they have not learned one fucking think about equality since the civil war. they stood in the way of equal rights for blacks in the 50/60's and they now stand in the way for gays, jews, and now mormons. please give me a fucking break. they are a bunch of ignorant haters, and most of america knows it.
wntoply6 4 years ago
You need to work on that... Mike Huckabee did more for the people of New Orleans than the Federal government, arguably. He is in fact a former Southern Baptist preacher. Not being a Southern Baptist I naturally disagree with many of them, but to generalize like you have and to spew so much pointless hate boggles my mind. You need help. No one really cares what you think. Have fun wasting your life being a Nazi.
chukmaty 4 years ago
sorry chuk, it's YOU who has to "work on that" because you are ignorant and undeucated about religion, don't try to push your bullshit on others. btw, i do belive in god and christ,but i don't believe in bullshit, and only ignorant people are southern baptist christians. and i do mean ignorant.
wntoply6 4 years ago
You should be more forgiving of others in areas were you yourself are very inadequate.
You have no ability to kow every Southern Baptist, their views are actually quite diverse.
chukmaty 4 years ago
excuse me, why forgive people who are not good, and don't want to be? you're ignorant to the motives of these people, and until they are roundly surpressed, i will contintue to demonize them with gusto.
wntoply6 4 years ago
Wanting to "surpress" people (the word is actually SUPRESS), and "demonize" them, shows me that YOU'RE the bigot,wntoply.
blbaskind 4 years ago
I am sorry, it is apparent your motives are only good and loving and you fairly judge all people for who they individually are.. how could i ever have misread you... you are in fact a wonderful person who is constantly good and fair...
chukmaty 4 years ago
funny, then why does your group lie? when you ask for a direct answer, your group refuses, when you talk about southern baptist christians trying to dictate law, they refuse to talk about it. when they insist their religious icons be placed i PUBLIC buildings, that i helped pay for they are indignant. lets take facts here, not the goodness of your bullshit religion. there is no goodness, only power.
wntoply6 4 years ago
Well, we don't want him in Tenessee. Maybe we should send him back to Mexico, since he loves amnesty so much!
baitkenh 4 years ago
Like I said, in that sense, Fred Thompson is the next Mark Foley. I don't want another creepy Mark Foley politician in the white house.
baitkenh 4 years ago
bullshit. he is a lazy holier than thou politican with no real solutions. no one knows a lick about this actor. you chukmaty are crazy to be for this unknown at this early stage. btw, this blow hard doesnot have a showball's chance in hell.
wntoply6 4 years ago
Right on Wntoply6. That's exactly what I've been saying. We don't really know Fred Thompson all that well, but what we DO know is very disturbing...
baitkenh 4 years ago