@jade70chueh Does your room has heater which makes some part dry too fast? Also You need to use thick paste to hold the edges in place while it gets stretched.
@blueheronarts Thank you for your response. I don't have a space heater. The temperature is pretty even at home. However, I see your point now. It makes a lot of sense to put thicker paste for the edges. One of my edges is always drying faster than the rest. While the rest of the area is still stretching, the dry part already loosens up. That's why uneven pulling parts of the paper makes wrinkles. THNAK YOU THANK YOU you are great!
@jzc11024 The backing paper? I think it is mulberry paper #1 (the one with finer fiber). It could be a single xuan, but doesn't look like double or triple Xuan.
@inlife9 I think it really depends on the consistency. For backing Chinese painting on rice paper we use a very thin consistency similar to natural milk. Printing paper may require thicker paste.
Hi Henri, just a question, the door you are gluing on, should it have a bit rough surface ? Because on a painted (shiny) door the paper get's loose doesn't it !? Traditionlay they have a special screen with paper for attaching the painting is it !?
@dipchips Hi, good question. Painted (shiny) surface or even glass is ok. Yes, traditionally they just leave the margin papes on the wall so it become a kind of paper covered wall. I always remove leftover margins instead of leaving them on the door. Make sure you use thicker paste to fix the margins and don't let the paste get into the painting area. Otherwise it may stick to the board.
Q: After only attaching the borders to the bord there seems to remain a air bubble somewhere in the painting which cannot be removed unless i use the (hard) palmtree brush on the frontside of the painting (which might damage or spread certain thickly applied paints even in case it's used very softly to get the air out, this is a bit hard to do). How can i prevent this kind of problem. However it seems that after drying the paper get's tight pretty good, but i still have a bit a wavy paper.
A: The air bubbles will be gone when it gets dry because the wet painting gets shrunk or tighten. Don't need to touch any area inside except the border when you post it onto drying board.Just make it evenly spread on the board. No need to worry about the bubbles between the painting and the board. If you got waves after drying, that means it was not even or too loose when you post it. This more like to happen with large size painting.
Use mulberry paper as backing paper may help because it is tougher to habbdle so you can stretch it before fixing the border. I have not done any wet mounting since I adopted dry-mounting with silicone paper, which is much easier, faster and reliable.
Thank you for sharing your technique for mounting. I bought a Chinese painting that was unmounted and am trying to get up the courage to do the pasting on another piece of rice paper. My original is very thin rice paper and very delicate.
Dorothy
P.S. Sorry that the comment before mine from someone named Isadora was so crude and unkind. Some people are just nasty by nature. I hope you can remain kind and open to sharing. I like your work!
I would like to ask a question about the colors. If they are painted with watercolor paints will they spread when you paint the mixture on the back? Or are the colors painted with colored ink so you do not need to worry about them spreading?
I want to paint some iris for a friend and mount it for a springtime gift. Thank you!
It would bleed if you used regular water color paints. Chinese painting color is less bleeding during wet mounting but still does sometimes. That is why I would recommend dry mounting with silicone paper if you use regular watercor. See my videos on silicone mounting paper for details.
hi, I have just started chinese painting class and now live in Taiwan. To buy things such as brushes, ink, where do you think the best place to go: somewhere in China, Taiwan, or Japan? Would appreaciate it if you could refer to a good store.Thanks
Great video!
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michaelh74 1 year ago
@jade70chueh Does your room has heater which makes some part dry too fast? Also You need to use thick paste to hold the edges in place while it gets stretched.
blueheronarts 1 year ago
@blueheronarts Thank you for your response. I don't have a space heater. The temperature is pretty even at home. However, I see your point now. It makes a lot of sense to put thicker paste for the edges. One of my edges is always drying faster than the rest. While the rest of the area is still stretching, the dry part already loosens up. That's why uneven pulling parts of the paper makes wrinkles. THNAK YOU THANK YOU you are great!
jjade70chueh 1 year ago
When my painting was about to dry on the door, it started to have ripples here and there. Could you explain why it did so? Thanks
jjade70chueh 1 year ago
what kind of xuan or mounting paper did you use in this video? Single, double, or triple xuan?
jzc11024 1 year ago
@jzc11024 The backing paper? I think it is mulberry paper #1 (the one with finer fiber). It could be a single xuan, but doesn't look like double or triple Xuan.
blueheronarts 1 year ago
Would that glue work on a card stock printed image placed to wood?
inlife9 1 year ago
@inlife9 I think it really depends on the consistency. For backing Chinese painting on rice paper we use a very thin consistency similar to natural milk. Printing paper may require thicker paste.
blueheronarts 1 year ago
Hi Henri, just a question, the door you are gluing on, should it have a bit rough surface ? Because on a painted (shiny) door the paper get's loose doesn't it !? Traditionlay they have a special screen with paper for attaching the painting is it !?
dipchips 1 year ago
@dipchips Hi, good question. Painted (shiny) surface or even glass is ok. Yes, traditionally they just leave the margin papes on the wall so it become a kind of paper covered wall. I always remove leftover margins instead of leaving them on the door. Make sure you use thicker paste to fix the margins and don't let the paste get into the painting area. Otherwise it may stick to the board.
blueheronarts 1 year ago
dipchips wrote:
I've discovered the reason of my problem. In the room where i hung the paintings the air is too dry. So i dries to fast.
I tried to use a window (colder area) and guess what. It sticked and the paper is completely stretched and dried.
I am so happy !
Also the mineral color solution has been found.
Just wash the painting with Alum water after the paints are dry, let the paper dry again for 1 day, then its ready to glue.
Thx for your tips !
blueheronarts 1 year ago
Q: After only attaching the borders to the bord there seems to remain a air bubble somewhere in the painting which cannot be removed unless i use the (hard) palmtree brush on the frontside of the painting (which might damage or spread certain thickly applied paints even in case it's used very softly to get the air out, this is a bit hard to do). How can i prevent this kind of problem. However it seems that after drying the paper get's tight pretty good, but i still have a bit a wavy paper.
blueheronarts 2 years ago
A: The air bubbles will be gone when it gets dry because the wet painting gets shrunk or tighten. Don't need to touch any area inside except the border when you post it onto drying board.Just make it evenly spread on the board. No need to worry about the bubbles between the painting and the board. If you got waves after drying, that means it was not even or too loose when you post it. This more like to happen with large size painting.
blueheronarts 2 years ago
Use mulberry paper as backing paper may help because it is tougher to habbdle so you can stretch it before fixing the border. I have not done any wet mounting since I adopted dry-mounting with silicone paper, which is much easier, faster and reliable.
blueheronarts 2 years ago
Thank you for sharing your technique for mounting. I bought a Chinese painting that was unmounted and am trying to get up the courage to do the pasting on another piece of rice paper. My original is very thin rice paper and very delicate.
Dorothy
P.S. Sorry that the comment before mine from someone named Isadora was so crude and unkind. Some people are just nasty by nature. I hope you can remain kind and open to sharing. I like your work!
mscorel 2 years ago
If the original painting is very thin you may consider dry mounting with iron-on silicone paper. See my other demo of the dry-mounting technique.
BTW, I have removed that unkind comment. Thank you for your support!
blueheronarts 2 years ago
What is the iron-on silicone paper?Where is it use to sale? I never hear about it .Can you send me,please,any link about it
Thanks)
kokokomi 2 years ago
Blue Heron Arts (dot) Com site under mounting materials. Thanks!
blueheronarts 2 years ago
awesome; i wish i could rate this video for more than five stars.pls tell me components for mounting mixture as it is not very clear in video.
TheSchauhan 2 years ago
Thank you for this very helpful video.
I would like to ask a question about the colors. If they are painted with watercolor paints will they spread when you paint the mixture on the back? Or are the colors painted with colored ink so you do not need to worry about them spreading?
I want to paint some iris for a friend and mount it for a springtime gift. Thank you!
featheredpines 2 years ago
It would bleed if you used regular water color paints. Chinese painting color is less bleeding during wet mounting but still does sometimes. That is why I would recommend dry mounting with silicone paper if you use regular watercor. See my videos on silicone mounting paper for details.
blueheronarts 2 years ago
Thank you, that is very helpful information.
featheredpines 2 years ago
Awsome
IRSFRAUDEXPOSED 3 years ago
hi, I have just started chinese painting class and now live in Taiwan. To buy things such as brushes, ink, where do you think the best place to go: somewhere in China, Taiwan, or Japan? Would appreaciate it if you could refer to a good store.Thanks
chrstg2003 4 years ago
Thank you so much for the detailed video on mounting. That's very generous of you to share. You're a very good teacher. :-)
What kind of paper do you use for the backing paper? Is it the same kind of rice paper for the painting?
yayaju 4 years ago
Thank you for your support! Yes, you may use rice paper, mulberry tree fiber paper, or any other sumi painting paper as backing paper.
blueheronarts 4 years ago
Excellent video! I had no idea all that work went into mounting.
OckGal 4 years ago