Robots Are Taking Over the Web!

[GvampGV]

._. wtf????

[jonnywaffle06]

dunb fuck robots R THE WEB

[CrazyCheeseMagee]

Honestly, I don't really care that Google is monitoring my searches, as long as they don't share it with anyone but themselves. (Though of course, I'm using Firefox right now with AdBlock Plus, but that's more because ads are annoying than that ads are evil in some way. A site's got to make money to pay for its domain name.) And I don't use MySpace because I don't like it, not because it's "evil" in some way.

[saviumsaliva]

Loving that you're making people aware of this, and of course the fact that my music starts to play when the Freedom Trons come to the rescue :)

[perrin26]

Did you do the music? I did the animation :D

[saviumsaliva]

Sweet! And yes, the music from 2:40 till the end is the track "Death of an Equestrian" from my 2007 album :)

[MrVittoriogassman]

A good reminder that even the owners of this site may be a bit too nosy.

[BlacklitFloater]

lol murdoch space.

[0ldhack]

you had me until you acted as though a website were the answer. kinda missed your mark there is you ask me. which you didn't.

[Hal2222222]

I absolutely love it.

Where do I sign up? ;)

SeriOSly it makes me happy to hear about this project. Maintain the brain with "spelling bees" and "buttered-flies". And are there any words on losing the type for a virtual touchscreen? One that doesn't make me old hands ache.

[ghostaliaz]

Oh & by the way I loved the video.Great Animation & it stayed on topic to the point & straight forward so much that a child could understand it,you have got skills.You are a rebel & all of us young people are rebels also as you can see we all fault together the big fight against the republicans using the web & now us regular Joes & Janes (of All Colors & beliefs) get to have a voice with a true president Mr.Obama that represents every color & status & I very much respect you for making this vid.

[ghostaliaz]

The Web Revolution.You know everything about us normal regular supposably small people fighting the higher people trying to inflict control over us & web control & we will not lay down & let them.We will fight for what we the people created.Never let any government agency or any entity tell us what to do online & how to do it,instead do what the heck you like online as long as it is for the good at least that you feel in your heart & another thing Republicans suck! & Democrats Rock! Yeh Baby!

[xungarax]

I hope they paid their animator, freebies often devalue human effort and exploit creative work.

[LeninToast]

pretty sweet animation i love the neat play offs of firefox, wikipedia and google.

[04ray25number2]

Facebook sux.

[catblk]

WOOT SUBSCRIBING =P

[perrin26]

The other thing to be concerned with is, Google really does have a huge control on how the internet is presented. If you pay money, no matter you message, you are highlighted and given priority. But if you are a free site, even if you are a site that gives wonderful useful information, you are lost in a sea of pages that come up 300 results later, because you are not a subscriber to their system. So in a way yes, it makes sense.

[ThisCanadian]

they have more than that. They comply with China's policies to block content. ... censorship & supported by Google & Friends even better? The US has been torturing for the Chinese in GITMO. nice. at least we know. tinyurl com/4alcw9 "shock & awe-ful thing"s: "Taking Liberties" & forced drugging of Non-Americans on US flights tinyurl com/5fr4d8 ┄┄┄┄┄┄┄┄ BlueBerry Pick'n can be found @ ThisCanadian com ┄┄ "We, two, form a Multitude" ~ Ovid. ┄┄ "Silent Freedom is Freedom Silenced" ┄┄┄┄┄┄┄┄

[perrin26]

It all depends on your point of view. Anything on the net isn't private. There is invasion of privacy going however. Sites such as facebook have as much as admitted they give information to other agencies that are connected to governments. And more than likely they do profile this stuff, may classify you based on how many times you view a certain website, or perhaps how many times you even watch a video such as this, so there is reason to be a little concerned.

[toeg1]

I applaud Free Speech TV and all its done to date for the develop of the truth in the US and elsewhere. This place is one of a handful of must see places.

[Shcone]

Great looks like you spent a lot of time on it thanks for the heads up gave it a thumbs up and a 5 star

[Kneze23]

Is 4chan the Bumblebee of the Freedomtrons?

[catblk]

myspace had an interview wth a cat omg! omg! i gota check that out!!!! o m g!

[commoneagle]

who is they who claims my stuff is theres wtf that is parinoid

[commoneagle]

I have yet to see a big problem in this fashion. I surf every day and find the web great.. so what if they track my comings and goings I got nothing to hide. also there are a great many sites run by the little guy... i am not really sure but i don't see the robots trying to stop me from building a site that says and does what i want it to. I guess I'll have to visit the site to see what is making them paranoid.. yes it seems paranoid and perhaps a bit delusional

[livvidd]

Freedom Trons F.T.W! Exelent vid, 5 stars

[stencilwashington]

lol

[revenpyro]

too bad "wikiador" is entirely useless becuase it isnt monitored ppl can post what ever they want about something opinions and what not rarely true facts i trust big buiseness becuase i will soon enough be the big buiseness . that is what the world is coming to and that is how i and all the rest that will survive will adapt

[COAnews]

wikipedia has been shown to be more accurate than other "professional" encyclopedias. While you give in to a vacuous life of climbing the corporate later, many of us are living a meaningful life while working for social justice. I've done both and I know which is more fun and fulfilling.

[TRFWRK]

.... Wikipedia DOES monitor the changes people make.. Only registered users can edit and they have people make routine checks throughout the site to check for proper and credible sources.

Besides, Wiki pages link to sources that you can check out yourself and use.

[WolverineInk]

FreedomTrons are cool!

[youtubiapresident]

I like it. Robots are almost as good as virtual computer-generated characters.

[resolveitall]

cool vid guys :)

[JerjetjanyGergely]

Those who feel they have somethingt to hide simply uses script blocking: makes YT not getting information/money. an other way to hide is using proxy servers. this is internet evolution.

[miciah]

*slow clap*.... paranoia is a terrible thing.

[COAnews]

all based on facts, go to the centre for digital democracy

[Davaron2012]

What about freespeech/ourweb, ist that not just another form of deception??

how do we know who to really trust?

[nomangodoytokay]

Good question!

[DoubleK2000]

Kewl, thanks for uploading this...

[COAnews]

myspace dot com

facebook dot com

Google

Internet Explorer (use Firefox instead)

[takotheoktopus]

Firefox w/foxyproxy, adblock plus, noscript, greasemonkey, clusty search bar and so much more are your friends.

[takotheoktopus]

Opera is an excellent browser and also the most compliant to W3C standards.

[benjaminallison]

I don't know if know this, but Mark Zuckerberg started Facebook just so he could keep tab on my every move. If I'm at a birthday party, he wants to know about it. New car, camping trip, or random shots of the family? He wants to know about it...

The real problem with out society is paranoia. You've evidenced that nicely!

[widget1985]

Why would Google be portrayed as a bad robot, and mozila a good robot? Doesn't google fund the Mozila project?

[1noen1]

Because Google, like Facebook, gives the CIA all the information about you they have. Everywhere you go on the internet you are tracked. Everything you do is monitored. Everything.

[techdudezz]

Hmm... I think Google is the better of the pack. Whats your opinion ?

[takotheoktopus]

Use clusty instead. Google is very evil!

[techdudezz]

It sucks. I tried searching for a thing and I didn't get anything near it. :(

[takotheoktopus]

Sadly, nothing will ever compare to the beast we know by the name of Google! When using Clusty, if you look at the search results in separate clusters it does help refine things in to sensible groups. They respect your privacy as well. If privacy is of no concern to you then by all means go ahead and use Google.

[techdudezz]

I don't understand what you mean by "Privacy". Does that mean Google gives my personal information like email and full name to the public ?

[takotheoktopus]

For a detailed explanation of Google's privacy policies, go to google-watch(dot)org

Go to clusty(dot)com/privacy for info on how Clusty respects your right to privacy.

[techdudezz]

Thanx. And hey, are you like, a Clusty marketing agent ? ;) lolz

[takotheoktopus]

No, just like to help people! There are other search engines and web crawlers and If the search I'm doing is really important then I use a combination of engines and crawlers.

[techdudezz]

Just kiddin', man !! ;)

[COAnews]

no it means they give it along with a lot of other data on you to marketers

[miciah]

so? if you have nothing to hide you dont need to care. i sure dont.

[BrezhnevIsMyCoPilot]

So can I have your name, SSN, and address, then?

[COAnews]

it's not about having something to hide - it's about these big business having huge very specific profiles on us and using that to sell us stuff. I don't have anything to hide, but I don't want a marketing company to know every website I've been to, and every search I've done. -I don't want them to know my curiosity.

[commoneagle]

even after reading you comment i wonder still what you hide sublimally or somthing to that effect. why do you care what they know... in fact they might be able to send you info on somthing you never new existed and at a good price too. not that it is a totally benign thing but i don't see how it hurts for them to know my interests. for the most part they use the info to see what you like in order to offer you what you like and not blindly spam you.

[takotheoktopus]

Tell me what you searched for and how the results were not useful.

[COAnews]

it's not about the search, it's about our privacy, our communication freedom

[takotheoktopus]

My last comment was directed at techdudezz when he said he tried Clusty and couldn't find what he was searching for. And to what miciah said about not having anything to hide, how can you be certain that what you think to be safe behavior now will not be deemed inappropriate in the future? I recently found out that the CIA profiles people who own a Casio watch since they are found to be one of the more readily available components in the construction of IED's.

[COAnews]

this is a good point

[takotheoktopus]

Thank you.

[Sledeau]

Haha, this video was hilarious.

[valkyrie607]

That last was a response to adamrice, btw. It looks nonsensical now, it was meant to appear next to his comment.

[adamrice]

Should I laugh at the fact this video is appearing on a Google property?

[valkyrie607]

No. You should either follow the link, or shut up. Sophomoric attempts at irony help nobody--not yourself, not nobody else.

[QRZPT777]

I think it's okay to laugh at the irony as long as the video continues to appear here. You should cry, however, if Google ever takes it down.

[QRZPT777]

A fascinating dilemma: what role does a dominant structure play when building alternative structures? How does this campaign reach YouTube and FaceBook users with its message about non-commercial alternatives?

How far can a campaign get, if, on principle, it forgoes using the system's own tools to dismantle that system or to build alternatives? How far can it go if it does use them? I guess we'll see.

[QRZPT777]

A similar dilemma is found in electoral politics. Can we build a more vibrant, responsive democracy with the often limited choices of political candidates? Is it more effective to vote for the best change offered and thus legitimize a broken system? Or is it more effective to boycott these corporate-underwritten horse-races?

[haramie]

i hope you are not referring Firefox as a warrior for free web....

[rewm]

ahh, hopeless idealists

god love 'em

[JizzonTheDark]

COA - I think you seriously underestimate the power of consumer groups. You need to look up a guy named Ralph Nader.

Look at what TV and radio regulation has done, all I see is an oligarchy. Government involvement with internet regulation WILL lead to the same thing.

We have a saying around here: "If it ain't broke, don't mess with it."

[COAnews]

I don't underestimate consumer groups, I've worked on their campaigns, and I've started one myself. Media regulation is not the problem, exactly the opposite, it's media deregulation (what you want) that creates oligopoly. Look at some of the European countries where they have good regalation of media - it works. Government isn't the source of the problem, corporations are - get at the source. The big corporations are messing with the Internet so we need fight against them -

[Clockworkforest]

Great response. It is the corporations that are the illness.

[JizzonTheDark]

How am I for deregulation? I'm saying, why risk the fed getting involved, when there isn't a problem: I say what I want, you say what you want. If they try to block us out, we'll fry their asses; it will not be tolerated long.

The gov't takes that which was private or community property, regulates it, and then when the time comes "deregulates" and splits it up between the highest bidders i.e. corporations.

So think twice before you dismiss Paul as a mere idealogue.

[COAnews]

government is a site of social struggle.

[JizzonTheDark]

all the fed does these days is take something from one entity and give it to another. the only service they should provide over the internet is seeking predators and protecting property.

You have no idea how many companies are taking there servers international to shy away from the prying eyes of the Patriot Act.

[tr0llio]

i would love to know how many, actually. i bet it is very few, since government action almost always favors corporations (especially the ones that donate) over the public interest.

[gmfutube]

Consumer groups tried to fight the corporate commercialization of TV from the begining.

Explain to us all how Net Nuetrality will hurt the internet?

[tr0llio]

a big part of the problem is people thinking of thems elves as consumers. as long as the public accepts that model, internet connections will be asymmetric, entertainment delivery systems rather than a self-publishing media system. consumerism also supports environmental destruction and the 1 dollar 1 vote paradigm. most of the important things in life cannot be measured in monetary value.

[JizzonTheDark]

you're splitting hairs. consumer, end-user - same fucking thing.

We have a choice. We don't need the gov't to make changes that in the end will only empower the corporation.

[tr0llio]

we already have government-enforced monopolies on wireless and wired connections. shouldnt we change the laws to either remove those monopolies or put them under public (not corporate) control?

what are the alternatives to government regulation of communications infrastructure?

the anarchist model of personal and community-owned mesh wireless (or wires and hubs) seems ideal, so why havent we done it?

[COAnews]

yes this is ideal and we should go for it - but government sets the rules, and they make these things difficult without us holding them accountable - but yes we should support these.

[JizzonTheDark]

The way you probably envision Net Neutrality is not the same as it's trying to be pushed through congress. You say "support net neutrality" but that term has been thrown around loosely to describe bills that are anything but.

So I'm watching this video where Google is this big bad guy. Google, Yahoo fully support supposed "Net Neutrality" laws.

So.. WTF? Haven't you learned anything about pre-emptive law. Keep living in fear and believe you're powerless.

[maggothon]

thanks gmfu: I appreciate you sending this video my way. When you have corporations running the "show" with the help of goverment we citizens pay the price through the loss of our privacy and our freedom of expression. BTW...good question.

[tr0llio]

there were private online services like AOL during the BBS era that predated the web. we would not tolerate ads on web pages (and did not in the early days when websites were cheap) if the internet had been made free public infrastructure with everyone guaranteed a space. now we have access oligopolies that constrain speech and monitor behaviour in collusion with big-brotherish governments.

[COAnews]

very well said - it's a sad story, but maybe we can take it back.

[gmfutube]

I think many simply don't know that.

Americans have a serious disdain for history - even if it was only a few years ago.

[maggothon]

Yes, gmfu: we are known for our "short" memory and those in power are fully aware of that. We, the consumers must realize that the power lies with us, not the other way around

[idontcare314159]

Did anyone realize that Firefox is funded my "goozle" and that is the only way they continue to stay in business? That is why all of your Firefox browsers have a built in google search button. I don't like people monitoring everything I do either but every good thing will become a means of making money.

[COAnews]

I don't agree Wikipedia hasn't sold out yet and it's a great thing. My understanding is that Firefox works with Google and probably benefits financially but it is still owned by a non-profit foundation and open-source. Being a new browser challenging Microsoft they had to work with someone.

[tr0llio]

The original Mozilla was one of the first browsers. It became popular as Netscape and the corporation of that name got rich quick. Internet Explorer 6 still announces itself as "Mozilla compatible". Firefox is newer code from the Mozilla project. That is to say, i'm not sure they needed a lot of money.

[SharkDude1]

Free Speech in America? Wow..That would be so cool! As a Child I was taught he America was a Free Speech country, but I guess I was taught wrong.... Even some of the people running for election in 2008 do not support FREE SPEECH. It is quite clear when they have to "Approve" a persons/Free Speech post first. Except one person...RON PAUL! America Needs to get Ron Paul in office to save the United States from becomming The "Outcast Country".

[gmfutube]

Check with Paul's campaign about his stance on Net Neutrality.

There stock answer is "Dr. Paul doesn't support any government regulation"

That is BS! We NEED regulations that protect people from big corps.

[jamjabba3]

You mean like all the government regulations that we have now that "protect us" from the big corps? What a laugh. The corporations and government are in bed together. I'd rather see Paul in Office than ANY of the other candidates. We want government out of our lives, not further intruding in it. A true free-market, and people's consumption choices, will keep the internet the most free of all. You are deluded.

[COAnews]

government doesn't need to be in bed with corporations. Look at the Norwegians or Venezuela. We can have good governance, we can have participatory democracy. Take on the corporations if they are the source of the problem. It's like saying the education system is bad so we should not have education. Our education system is bad, so it needs to be fixed.

[gmfutube]

What 'consumption choices'?

If a handful of providers can decide which content has transmission priority - which is what net nuetrality is meant to protect against- what choice will you have?

The choice between a fast site of corporate choosing - or what you may actually be interested in.

[COAnews]

yes Ron Paul is against having the government make sure the big telcom doesn't close down the open Internet - he's too much of an ideologue

[gmfutube]

After what has happened to radio & TV, how can people still be so stupid as to believe that big telecom will run the internet in a way that serves freedom and the consumer?

[nickjade]

Where is the innovation in the societies mentioned with "trustworthy" democracies?

In the film, the government should appear as an even bigger robot, armed by the user to be so powerful that the other robots don't stand a chance. It would destroy sites, censor information, and manipulate your "hero" robots through funding or lack thereof.

Innovation ahoy!

[tommes666]

would you please translate that sentence so i can understand it? Is Ron Paul pro/contra?

[bpheim]

Oh yea and cyberspace is free..no costs involved with building and maintaing worldwide conectivity at increaing speeds able to handle files like this one.

[planetpeace12]

who said it was free? I think the question is do we allow just a few corporations control it all at our expense.

[COAnews]

yes it's not free to run Firefox, or wikipedia, or FreeSpeech. org - these things need to be supported. We do need to allow the New Media Cartel to invade our privacy, it is unnecessary.

[tr0llio]

you wouldnt say it was free if you have tried to build that infrastructure yourself. the average incremental cost of publishing information is zero, but there is a startup cost that has to be paid. most of the world population still does not have internet access.

[QRZPT777]

Internet users pay ISPs for cyberspace access & infrastructure, like that fee I pay every month for this DSL connection.

The big media predators are fine for people who don't mind being bombarded w/ ads and profiled for marketing schemes. But for the rest of us, it's good to know that alternatives exist.

[SHADOWGUY12]

Very creative!

[wildernesstrails]

The key isn't where the web started, but where it is today and how we'd like it to "be". FSTV's effort to create awareness about who controls our Internet communication deserves attention and ACTION! Go FSTV!

[workingfilmsdocs]

Thanks FSTV! We're excited about the ourweb community.

[COAnews]

great, you should post your great videos on the FSTV community

[planetpeace12]

foxator rocks

[joeparamount]

She really does!

[alittleredhen]

glad to hear of this. very scary what is happening very quickly in blogland.

[lynnedjones]

o thats really thought provoking! well done.

(great animation too.)

5*****s

[anyusmoon1]

Yeah USE SCROOGLE dot ORG instead of google dot come.

Don't confust SCROOGLE dot ORG with

scroogle dot com the porn site- seriously. Go to SCROOGLE dot ORG take back your privacy.

[maggothon]

Hey anyusmoon: thanks for the information!!!

[anyusmoon1]

You're welcome- I use that EXCLUSIVELY and avoid google as often as possible. Unfortunately I have a gmail account and of course this Youtube account :-(

[takotheoktopus]

Try clusty for doing searches.

[COAnews]

right on I'll get on that from now on - wish there was a no-profit open-source search engine :) But Clustly looks better then the other for sure.

[takotheoktopus]

One of the things I like about Clusty other then it's privacy policy, is that it combines results into clusters of relevance which I have found to be rather useful when looking things up with multiple meanings.

[korayem]

I loved the video, but it could've been much shorter. To me 3:55 to explain the whole thing is way too much.

But anyways, I am in!

[KobyBrandt]

The movement to keep the internet free and our personal communications and data secure and private is definitely a noble goal. But the weak point is always the ISP -- the site that you connect to for internet access. Choose your ISP wisely (in other words, forget about AOL, Earthlink, and the like) and make sure that the site that you choose allows you to connect up with a Secure Shell (SSH) encrypted tunnel.

[machaeroguy]

Pretty cool Koby. It's gonna take lawyers and courts, sadly. ;-(

[nickprogresss]

it's both, the network access is most important but if all it provides is access to a commercially exploitive media system then it's not all that great either. We aren't there yet but we need they campaigns to keep the web open - and of course we need net neutrality.

[KobyBrandt]

Until users have the legal backing, we're going to have to watch out for ourselves. There are many strategies to help safeguard your privacy. See the Electronic Frontier Foundation (eff.o rg) for an intro.

[tr0llio]

and run a Tor node if you can!

[maggothon]

Hey Koby thanks for the information. Had these questions in mind when gmfu sent me this video...thanks to both of you.

[COAnews]

if anyone can help get the word out please do - we don't have money from invading privacy so we need help.

[smooresf]

Stumble it. Use Stumble Upon. Share this message.

[philtessa80]

How true!!!

[MebiByte]

What a great video. Another brilliant message to the corporations trying to run the web. I hope that some day the people can own the web, which is why I hope to help this project any way possible.

[SteveA]

that's right lets spread around the web while we can

[steev2300]

Why are you ONLY distributing this via YouTube? How ironic! How sad! The only way to watch this online is via a corporation that sells our eyeballs to advertisers!? There should be a place where one can download this and re-use it, show it locally, remix it, etc.

[stephena2]

maybe it will be at some point - it is creative commons licensed

[COAnews]

I see your point but we don't want to get people off Youtube and other New Media Giants so we have to come where they are. We do have it up at the link in the description for those who want to avoid this site. We will have widely available in other places very soon. Very valid concerns though.

[tr0llio]

check out freedocumentaries dot org and archive dot org for sites where you can post this sort of video.

[MarssundanceMandarin]

now tell us something we do not know, the US Government did create the web sorry.

[MarssundanceMandarin]

the us government did not creat the web

[qwertishly]

actually they technically did. The original internet was a way to preserve data in the event of a nuclear war with russia, in a place where it could not be touched; the internet.

[KobyBrandt]

MarssundanceMandarin: Go to Wikipedia and search for:

ARPANET and DARPA

That should give you an idea of who "created" the internet...

[steev2300]

Yes but MarssundanceMandarin said the web, not the internet, which is different. The web, which is just a protocol that runs on the internet, was invented a long time after DARPA created the original net, at a particle physics lab in Switzerland, CERN, not by the US Government.

[idontcare314159]

silly people Al Gore made the internet!

[thAchauffeur]

Down with restrictortrons!

[joeparamount]

Great video - I really like the transformers - Foxator and Wikiator!!

[KlaxonCow]

Yeah, the Freedomtrons are way cooler robots than those Restrictatrons any day! ;D

[qwertishly]

Well duh... one restrictatron is Internet Explorer and a freedomtron is Firefox. No contest!

[davood78]

really cool!!!

[nickprogresss]

yup, we need to spread the word about this vid - people need to understand this stuff.

[jonsylvan]

Very timely commentary and campaign. Yes, "It's our web" and we better fight to keep it that way!

[bjwlsy]

Now with more clutter! So true. :p

On that tip, I love the photosynth demo/video micro-embedded ad idea... I have a hard time believing pop-ups actually make people money... but I digress -- nice vid!

[nickprogresss]

wow

[Whits1bone]

Sorry, Apparently I am blind this morning~I see IT now, lol!

[Whits1bone]

This was good! You should type the link in the description~makes it easy to copy and paste.