Im an historian and i understand the difference between, ANCIENT MAKEDON (the root of Macedonia), the various IMPERIAL REGIONS OF MACEDONIA (some even in historical Thrace under Byzantine emperor Basil) the last of which, the Ottoman one, which now the modern region, MODERN GREEK MAKEDONIA (the only people to have historical claim on MAKEDON), and FYR 'MACEDONIA' (in REGION OF MACEDONIA) (former Yugoslav Vardar Bavonia prior to Tito and communist "you r Makedon" propaganda).
Up until Tito you were Bulgarian Slavs living the last region of Macedonia to be applicable, the ottoman one The name changed under Tito to "Macedonian" Slavs and true you are slavs living a small area of the last imperial ADMINISTRATIVE REGION OF MACEDONIA to be applicable,the ottoman's,but MACEDON is different thing entirely, and you cannot justify the claim of that name or symbols or history. Show me the Slavic in the tomb of Philip in Pella.oops only ancient Greek there! Internet republic.
Dont deny your Bulgarian roots the rest is propaganda
Krste Crvenkovski, President of the Central Committee of the Union of Communists in the Socialist Republic of Macedonia, to Todor Zhivkov, First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Bulgaria (May 19, 1967)
“And whether bulgarian consciousness exists in Macedonia, this is a historical legacy. We’re now writing our history. We can’t write that until 1940 we were Bulgarians and after 1940 Macedonians.”
did you hear that vardaska had to take the vegina sun out of its university degrees because it is a MACEDONIAN symbol??? The university of Macedonia, Thessaloniki IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS ALLOWED TO USE THE VERGINA SUN! hahahaha busted FYROZEROS
YOU RE SO LAME! REALLY EVEN THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIAN COINS WERE IN GREEK LANGUAGE!
AND SECOND,ALEXANDER THE GREAT LIVED IN MAKEDONIA AND HE PARTICIPETED IN OLYMPIC GAMES,324 BC(JUST LIKE PHOELLIPUS HIS FATHER). AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ONLY GREEKS WERE ALLOWES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OLYMPIC GAMES,GREEK CITIZENS AND NO ONE ELLS.SO THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIA WAS A PART OF GREECE.GET L-O-S-T skopjans!
@Joanne7u8 χαιρετισμούς από την Θεσσαλονίκη αδελφούς Μακεδόνες είναι υπερήφανοι που το παιδί της ελληνικής Μακεδονίας καταλήφθηκε από τους φασίστες! Gordo makedonijo.I also wrote greek but im macedonian newer greek !Pozz od SOLUN!
@mklostsoul Cmon now. We must stop lying. We all now that we are Bulgarians. We have no connection with the real macedonia that is a place in Greece. We must enter EU and with the stolen Greek name of macedonia we will never enter. I am proud to be vardarskian. Thats the real name of our country : VARDARSKA. And we all must be proud to be Bulgarians. So stop all these stupid lies because all the planet is laughing with as. macedonia = Greece Fyrom= vardarska = Bulgaria.
BROTHERS we can't steal history, is not our and the world knows the truth. We can't change history. Time to face the truth. Don't let the extremist using you because that's what they do right now. We are Slav Bulgarians.
The four greater beams represent the four points of the orizon (north, south, east west) and the rest 12 beams represented the dodekatheon (the 12 major ancient greek gods). If the macedonians were not related to the greeks why they needed to symbolize the greek gods upon their emblem?
Can the so called "Macedonians" explain the sybolism of the 16beam star which they use as national symbol? I think they can't because the use of this symbol is a product of historical and cultural theft.
... in the same time??? The south part of macedonia was taken in 1913 from the GREECE COWARDS that were waiting for Macedonia to become soft of the wars and to steal our land.
There is no GREECE PEOPLE, the greeks are mixed of Athens, Spartans and a lot of ancient races, and the name GREECE is given by the Romans. But, there were ancient Macedonians on our land and the THESSALONIKI part of Macedonia, and later, this land was populated by the slavic people which became slavo macedonians, not bulgarians. We had a Czas Samoil that was fighting against the bulgarians and for this Samoil, the damn bulgarians said that he is their king, but how come Bulgaria had tow kings..
My fellow "Macedonians" the time come for us to give up this dream. We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians just macedonians who live in a part of Macedonia land. It's time to ask for forgiveness from the GREEKS and be friends. We have no chanse of taking soething which was never us in the first place. I know it will be hard for you all but the truth must be told and we have to face it. It's time to ask for forgiveness from our Neighbours the Greeks and be friends. IT'S TIME.
olympia the mother of alexander has greek name too.You are Slavs and you came in the area many years after greeks.You dont have any connection with the story of macedonia and alexander and the greek language those ancient reeks were speaking.We are different nations with different storiew and culture, you should accept this and go on with your history, don't blame us and confuse us with you, no connection at all.
olympia the mother of alexander has greek name too.You are Slavs and you came in the area many years after greeks.You dont have any connection with the story of macedonia and alexander and the greek language those ancient reeks were speaking.We are different nations with different storiew and culture, you should accept this and go on with your history, don't blame us and confuse us with you, no connection at all.
Makedonia is a greek word, Alexandros is a greek word= the man who dissipate the men (alex is αλεξ from the ancient greek word αλεξω which means dissipate and andros is from andras-ανδρας which means man,male).The same is for the word alexikeravno (alex=dissipate and keravnos=lightining).The same with the word alexisfairo(alex and sfaira=cannon ball and is what policemen or soldiers wear for their protection).Also, Philippos is from the words phil=φιλώ which means keep and ippos=ίππος=horse.
olympia the mother of alexander has greek name too.You are Slavs and you came in the area many years after greeks.You dont have any connection with the story of macedonia and alexander and the greek language those ancient reeks were speaking.We are different nations with different storiew and culture, you should accept this and go on with your history, don't blame us and confuse us with you, no connection at all.
olympia the mother of alexander has greek name too.You are Slavs and you came in the area many years after greeks.You dont have any connection with the story of macedonia and alexander and the greek language those ancient reeks were speaking.We are different nations with different storiew and culture, you should accept this and go on with your history, don't blame us and confuse us with you, no connection at all.
We have the name we have the sun or you call it the star, why did you give macedonians all this if we are greek, cause you are fuken weak cunts. Long live macedonia, you have tried to wipe us out but we are still here, no matter what you say or do we are still gona thrive, because macedonians are strong not like you fuken turks. You day will cum and it will be our turn to laugh. All greeks should die.
All of you can speak what you wannet but the world know the true about Macedonia and soon or later will come.And i realy dont know why Greece are fread of Macedonian history proffesors and didnt come on duel on TV beafore all world on CNN like PASKO SAY for greece TV news.Greece is artificial state created by EU!! And now EU shame of her self beacuse of you and your mistakes about Macedonia,Turky-Kipar,Muslims in your country and much more that you say is not true but world can see.
If you know to read go on school and read about 1,2,3 balkan warr and see how is Macedonia divided on 4part 1is in Greece 2in Bulgaria 3 is now free MACEDONIA and 4 is in Albania.Also Greece get rid of the Ottoman Empire before Macedonia but Aegean Macedonia was under Turkish rule because he belongs to Macedonia and Greece did not fight for him, but the Macedonians as GOCE DELCEV die for her freedom and later Europe in the Balkan wars assign Aegean Macedonia to Greece and now is your Macedonia?
@forevermkd Ww didnt divide anything, we liberate Macedonia from turks, the only region we lost is the Monastiri region,the Serbian army wait for Hellenic troops to arrive but the army moved to liberate Thessaloniki.So 90% of ancient Macedonia is free again.Later this area given to Yugoslavia.
I talk about the region of Macedonia in that period, 1913!
However in the documents from Buckhurest agreement is written that Greece OCCUPIED Aegean Macedonia, and also your king from that South Macedonia is "an occupied territory" by Greece.
I am from Salonika and there now lives some Turkish-Christians, United Macedonia!
@stone4534 WHAT LIBERATE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHEN NO1 CAN SAY THAT HES MACEDONIAN AND WHERE IS MACEDONIAN FLAG IN SOLUN OR TESALONIKI YOU SAY NOW BUT READ IN OLD ARCHIVE HOW IS THE NAME OF TESALONIKI BEAFORE 1950Y AND HOW YOU SAY ABOUT TESALONIKI AND ANOTHER CITY OF AEGEAN MACEDONIA AND WHY SO MUCH MACEDONIAN ARE EXILED FROM THIS PART IN 1963Y? AND GO IN BUCUREST AND READ ABOUT BUCUREST CONTRACT FOR BALKANS WARR WITH 1 WORD STUDY HISTRY DONT LISTEN TV AND GREECE PROPAGANDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you really believe what are you saying? Thessaloniki has the same name since bilded from Kasandros. Go read the theary yourself and tell me where says about divisor.
My friend your first roots and where your ancestors active participated in creating was the First Bulgarian Empire.
And about 1913 you better wonder your absence from history.You was part of Bulgarian army.
@forevermkd We didnt divide anything, we liberate Macedonia from turks, the only region we lost is the Monastiri region,the Serbian army wait for Hellenic troops to arrive but the army moved to liberate Thessaloniki.So 90% of ancient Macedonia is free again.Later this area given to Yugoslavia.
Alexander the Great unified the Greeks before he heightened Greek culture in the East. Makedonia is a Greek homeland with Greek history. Phillip and Alexandros were Great Greeks.
HEY GUYS. I AM TIRED TO WATCH YOUR STUPID COMMENTS. WHAT I CAN SEE IS THAT GREEKS SPEAKING WITH DOCUMENTS. I CHECKED MANY LIBRARIES AND I DIDNT FIND ANY LIE. THEY ARE RIGHT. SOMETHING IS NOT GOING WELL WITH YOUR SIDE. WHAT I FOUND FOR YOU IS THAT YOU ARE MAKING HISTORY TAKING PARTS FROM DIFFERENT COUNRIES. EVEN YOUR FLAG IS ASIAN DESIGN. ALL AROUND THE WORLD PEOPLE HATE FAKE THINGS. WITH YOUR COMMENTS THE GREEK SIDE IS GETTING VERY STRONG BECAUSE THEY ARE RIGHT. THANKS
you put 2 true Hellenic symbols as real Macedonia was and still Greek...first the crown of Greek God Helios (sun of vergina)...second the Nemean Lion , Hercules's first labour..its so simple...macedonia is greek...!!!
ALEXANDER addressing the dead ATHENIANS after the battle of Chaeronia:
" Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought SISTER NATIONS and BROTHER PEOPLE, to fight one another, I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad BROTHERS if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are united by the SAME LANGUAGE. the SAME BLOOD and the SAME visions"
Firstly to be Honest u all greek ppl need to be educated before u write coments as such.The facts are :If Macedonia and macedonian ppl doesnt exist There Wouldnt be any of u greeks on this land. U are very dishonest ppl and u make FAKE stories up in your heads which in Fact are fake stories.U have your country and dont intervene in other ppl countries Eg R Macedonia. Be happy with wht u have and stop this bull shit once and for all.Respect for REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA
The meaning of the name Macedonia in Ancient Greek.
The name of the latter two probably derives from the Doric noun μᾶκος, mākos (Attic and modern Greek μάκρος, mákros and μῆκος, mēkos), meaning "length", and the adjective μακεδνός, makednós, meaning "tall, taper", since both the Macedonians (Makedónes) and their Makednoi tribal ancestors were regarded as tall people.
@zuiop08 ...Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II, 14, 4 (Loeb, P. A. Brunt) - 95-175 AD
donmiguelyangel YOU... I Say YOU boy are a mutant Ethiopian-Turk- Asia Minor Mixed Motherfucker!
I don't need to steel any history because it is mine and every Macedonian's! My whole line of desendents have always called themselves macedonians! now after hating macedonians for centuries you claim them to be greek? hahaha omg wake up to urself
face it fucking bulgarians in denial!!!!!!!northmacedonia the country!identity northmacedonian!language northmacedonian!every official document out and inside will be northmacedonian!the code mk will become NM AND THE 126 COUNTRIES THAT RECOGNISED YOU WILL CHANGE ACCORDING TO THE DECISION OF THE UN!!!!ENJOY THE HUGE COCK UNTIL YOUY DIE BLEEDING!!!!
Cradle Of Democracy My Ass, A Democracy Would Recognise Minorities In It's Country & Not Be So Stupid As To Believe They Are Direct Desendents Of The Ancient Hellenes! Every Country Is Mixed But What I Have In Common With Alexander Is That I Call Myself A MACEDONIAN JUST LIKE HE DID! NOT THIS BULLSHIT GREEK-MACEDONIAN! THERE IS NO SUCH THING!
@AncientMkd YOU... I say YOU boy are a mutant bulgarian,You boy dont have any history.You boy stole somebody else's past that lived at least 1000 years before your mutant race came about and because your past is not glorious-
looks like macedonia will never become slavic in history, cause even your ancestors tried that hard , they ended up living in paionia and making their descedants fantasising they r sth they r not, in order to have a chance to achieve sth they were unable to do by war
True Macedonian is a person that at least can undestand this : Ο Αλεξανδρος ο Μεγας ηταν Ελλην (For those who have no idea about history, this is the maternal language of King Filippus and Alexander the Great).
Fake Macedonia(Aka Monkeydonian) is the one that says : Александар Велики су Словени
Google. "macedonia evidence" !!! The list of 200 (+113 after) Classical Scholars (Historians, Archaeologists) that co-signed and support the letter sent to President Barack Obama for the truth about macedonia.
i have read it and it's completely nonacademic and is a joke. have you read the many criticisms of this letter? did you know many of the "classical scholars" have removed their names from the letter? you fucking losers get off our Macedonian dicks already.
Macedonia is derived from 2 ancient Greek words. "Mekos" and "Adonis" or "Makednos" meaning "the tall one" reffering to the stature of the peoples of this ancient Greek tribe.
The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia's territory was named Macedonia during the Ottoman Empire in the19th century identifying a GEOGRAPHICAL region NOT the ancient KINGDOM OF MACEDON. FYROM occupies 1/10 of the ancient Kingdom of Macedon, while authentic Macedonia (now a Greek province) in Greece occupies 9/10 of the ancient Kingdom of Macedon.
FYROM, a very new state in the Balkans with citizens mainly of Slavic and Albanian origin decided to monopolize the Greek terms Macedonia which was given to them by General Tito in 1944, despite the fact that those terms have been in use for 2800 years describing the ancient Macedonian Kingdom, part of the Greek World and the actual Macedonians, a Greek people (Dorians).
The name "macedonia" was given to the Southern Yugoslavian providence by General Tito aiming to create conflict in the region and to obtain Greek and Bulgarian territories. Before the 2nd World War FYROM was called Vardarska.
Extremely interesting is the U.S. State Dep. Foreign Relations Vol. VII, Circular Airgram [868.014], which was sent by then Secretary of State E. Stettinius, December 26th 1944, to all consular officials, informing them of the act to create a separate "Macedonia," as a "cloak for aggression against Greece."
"......................................This Government considers talk of "Macedonian Nation", "Macedonian Fatherland", or "Macedonian National Consciousness" to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic or political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece".
The opinion of more than 200 Academics from all over the world on the Macedonian issue. Enjoy:
macedonia-evidence (dot) org
madedonia-evidence (dot) org/obama-letter (dot) html
Miserable morons and uneducated gypsies from Vardarska are not able to develop civilization. So, it is easier to 'invent' it, by forging and exploiting Greek history! Shame on you, dirty rats !!!
JEALOUS JEALOUS I AM GREEK U ARE NOT I AM MACEDONIAN U WANT TO BE MACEDONIAN!! U ARE IMPERIALISTS I AM NOT!! hahahahhaha!!!keep dreaming! F UCK Y OU R OTEN O M ONKEYS U STUPID PPL EVEN MACEDONIA IS A GREEK WORK!!!!!SHAME ON U!!
How is possible Macedonia to be Greece.They have own flag,kings,fighters for freedom and we all know about exiled macedonians from 1963 who leave now in KANADA. AUSTRALIA USA etc.And they talk about it.For example my grandfather was born in Voden and he was witness of the Greek persecution And the whole family was persecuted except the futher of my grandfuther who was killed and he tell me about all this and he telling to every1 about this and hes not alone there is thousands like hem! HELLASS
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Thank you for the support Romanian friend, you are also great nation, but unfortunately in the Balkans are still non balanced Nations, such as loser nation without history bulgarians (tatars) and mix of ethiopinans and turks which steal all history associated with the Balkans, named greeks..
" Such a glorious ancestry was in the eyes of Greeks the hallmark of the Hellenic persona of the king of Macedon, who could, on the other hand, rely on fidelity of the people from which he had sprung. The Greek cities did not feel that they were allying with a barbarian, since for generations the Macedonian dynasty had been allowed, as Greeks, to take part in the Olympic Games. "
FYROMian friends, heavy propaganda victims, dont be history rappers!!! Learn to be proud of your SLAVIC origin and STOP CLAIMING THAT YOU ARE MACEDONIANS!!! You had enough brainwashing, time to face the truth!! You are SLAVS and you speak a SLAVIC LANGUAGE originated from BULGARIAN but SERBIANIZED, so you can't be Macedonians, since TRUE MACEDONIANS WERE AND ARE GREEK PEOPLE, speaking GREEK SINCE ANCIENT TIMES!!! Wake up; you are fooling yourselves and THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT YOU!!!
"We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century ... we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians!" (Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992, p. 35)
"We are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia! Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century AD."
Hahaha go to Next page and read who were macedonians, dont shit around. World already recognized you like egyptean, because only egypteans spam like you on games/forums/webs etc... Imma use arap letter also i hope you gonna understand me ..
Hahaha go to Next page and read who were macedonians, dont shit around. World already recognized you like egyptean, because only egypteans spam like you on games/forums/webs etc... Imma use arap letter also i hope you gonna understand me ..
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hey goergi stay out of it ,all your books written by the winners of war and pomme policy which split my people up can go F themselves every you poms have gone has turned to shit eg. arabia , africa oh and did i mention macedonia . I am and will always be macedonian but i had to move to aust from the persicusion of the hellinic turks . SHUT UP AND MIND YOUR OWN BUS POM
the great gligorov the biggest sriboman in the world who would listen to the shit he speaks .The guy was raised in serbia why wouldnt he say that.long live true macedonians and our history and may god curse outsiders who stick there noses where it doesnt belong
"We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian There is some confusion about the identity of the people of my country." (Ottawa Citizen, 24 February 1999)
"The idea that Alexander the Great belong to us, was at the mind of some outsider political groups only! These groups were insignificant the first years of our independence but the big problem is that the old Balkan Nations have been learned to legitimate themselves through their history."...
"In Balkans, if you want to be recognised as a Nation, you need to have history of 3000 years old. So since you made us to invent a history, we invent it! [...] You forced us to the arms of the extreme nationalists who today claim that we are direct descendents of Alexander the Great!"
(In an interview for Greek TV channel Mega, November 2006)
Eugene N. Borza, American historian, expert on Macedon:
"Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and 'Macedonians', cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical Slavic factions—mostly émigrés in the United States, Canada, and Australia—even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity."
"The twentieth-century development of a "Macedonian" ethnicity, and its recent evolution into independent statehood following the collapse of the Yugoslav state in 1991, has followed a rocky road. In order to survive the vicissitudes of Balkan history and politics, the "Macedonians", who have had no history, need one."
"They reside in a territory once part of a famous ancient kingdom, which has borne the Macedonian name as a region ever since and was called "Macedonia" for nearly half a century as part of Yugoslavia. And they speak a language now recognized by most linguists outside Bulgaria, Serbia, and Greece as a south Slavic language separate from Slovenian, Serbo-Croatian, and Bulgarian."
"Their own so-called "Macedonian" ethnicity had evolved for more than a century, and thus it seemed natural and appropriate for them to call the new nation "Macedonia" and to attempt to provide some cultural references to bolster ethnic survival. " ("Macedonia Redux", in "The Eye Expanded: life and the arts in Greco-Roman Antiquity", ed. Frances B Tichener & Richard F. Moorton, University of California Press, 1999)
1. The ancient Macedonians were a distinct nation, separate from their neighbors, the ancient Greeks, Illyrians, and Thracians. The ancient Greek and Roman historians tell us that the Macedonians spoke a separate Macedonian language and had their own customs, culture, and traditions. Archeological discoveries confirm that the material culture of the Macedonians also defer greatly from all their neighbors, and it is by far more superior in artistry (gold, paintings, weapons, mosaics)
then anything found in contemporary Greece, Illyria, and Thrace. The texts of the ancient writers distinguish the Macedonians from the ancient Greeks, just like they distinguish the Romans and the Carthaginians. Yet, like the other non-Greeks, Carthaginians, Romans, Illyrians, and Thracians, the Macedonian high society also used the Greek language along with Macedonian. Greek was spoken by the nobility of many different ancient nations,
Откога Българския символ ЛЪВЪТ,стана символ и на Македония? Смешни па чак и смешни са тез македоски кухоглавци.
AVRAMOVadrian 1 month ago
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Now some real history. Oxford University is speaking:
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PneymaAntilogias 4 months ago
Im an historian and i understand the difference between, ANCIENT MAKEDON (the root of Macedonia), the various IMPERIAL REGIONS OF MACEDONIA (some even in historical Thrace under Byzantine emperor Basil) the last of which, the Ottoman one, which now the modern region, MODERN GREEK MAKEDONIA (the only people to have historical claim on MAKEDON), and FYR 'MACEDONIA' (in REGION OF MACEDONIA) (former Yugoslav Vardar Bavonia prior to Tito and communist "you r Makedon" propaganda).
Internet republic.
thegreathistorian7 6 months ago
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Up until Tito you were Bulgarian Slavs living the last region of Macedonia to be applicable, the ottoman one The name changed under Tito to "Macedonian" Slavs and true you are slavs living a small area of the last imperial ADMINISTRATIVE REGION OF MACEDONIA to be applicable,the ottoman's,but MACEDON is different thing entirely, and you cannot justify the claim of that name or symbols or history. Show me the Slavic in the tomb of Philip in Pella.oops only ancient Greek there! Internet republic.
thegreathistorian7 6 months ago
macedoniaaaaaaaaaaa foreveeeeeeeeer :)
metogema 6 months ago
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Dont deny your Bulgarian roots the rest is propaganda
Krste Crvenkovski, President of the Central Committee of the Union of Communists in the Socialist Republic of Macedonia, to Todor Zhivkov, First Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Bulgaria (May 19, 1967)
“And whether bulgarian consciousness exists in Macedonia, this is a historical legacy. We’re now writing our history. We can’t write that until 1940 we were Bulgarians and after 1940 Macedonians.”
MrTriton41 7 months ago
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Real Macedonia?
Animation for #MonkeyDonians!
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macedonianimation 8 months ago
LONG LIVE THE BULGARIAN LION
martinlisitsata 8 months ago
did you hear that vardaska had to take the vegina sun out of its university degrees because it is a MACEDONIAN symbol??? The university of Macedonia, Thessaloniki IS THE ONLY ONE THAT IS ALLOWED TO USE THE VERGINA SUN! hahahaha busted FYROZEROS
deedeegr100 9 months ago
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everyone like idiots and morons for a good laugh :)))
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DON'T MISS THIS VIDEO ...GOD SPEAK TO FYROM ANIMALS.
LOLOLOL
FYROmonkey1 10 months ago
YOU RE SO LAME! REALLY EVEN THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIAN COINS WERE IN GREEK LANGUAGE!
AND SECOND,ALEXANDER THE GREAT LIVED IN MAKEDONIA AND HE PARTICIPETED IN OLYMPIC GAMES,324 BC(JUST LIKE PHOELLIPUS HIS FATHER). AND WE ALL KNOW THAT ONLY GREEKS WERE ALLOWES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE OLYMPIC GAMES,GREEK CITIZENS AND NO ONE ELLS.SO THE ANCIENT MAKEDONIA WAS A PART OF GREECE.GET L-O-S-T skopjans!
Joanne7u8 10 months ago 6
@Joanne7u8 /watch?v=VHQ4lmfuV40 go and take a look stupid gayreek and stop to be so racist
mklostsoul 6 months ago
@Joanne7u8 χαιρετισμούς από την Θεσσαλονίκη αδελφούς Μακεδόνες είναι υπερήφανοι που το παιδί της ελληνικής Μακεδονίας καταλήφθηκε από τους φασίστες! Gordo makedonijo.I also wrote greek but im macedonian newer greek !Pozz od SOLUN!
mklostsoul 6 months ago
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BROTHERS we can't steal history, is not our and the world knows the truth. We can't change history. Time to face the truth. Don't let the extremist using you because that's what they do right now. We are Slav Bulgarians.
PEACE
makedonchesto 10 months ago
The four greater beams represent the four points of the orizon (north, south, east west) and the rest 12 beams represented the dodekatheon (the 12 major ancient greek gods). If the macedonians were not related to the greeks why they needed to symbolize the greek gods upon their emblem?
harlemcore13 10 months ago
Can the so called "Macedonians" explain the sybolism of the 16beam star which they use as national symbol? I think they can't because the use of this symbol is a product of historical and cultural theft.
harlemcore13 10 months ago
macedoniantruth org /2009/06/17/greece-and-the-united-nations-recognizes-the-macedonian-language-in-1982/
packiber99 10 months ago
... in the same time??? The south part of macedonia was taken in 1913 from the GREECE COWARDS that were waiting for Macedonia to become soft of the wars and to steal our land.
packiber99 10 months ago
There is no GREECE PEOPLE, the greeks are mixed of Athens, Spartans and a lot of ancient races, and the name GREECE is given by the Romans. But, there were ancient Macedonians on our land and the THESSALONIKI part of Macedonia, and later, this land was populated by the slavic people which became slavo macedonians, not bulgarians. We had a Czas Samoil that was fighting against the bulgarians and for this Samoil, the damn bulgarians said that he is their king, but how come Bulgaria had tow kings..
packiber99 10 months ago
My fellow "Macedonians" the time come for us to give up this dream. We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians just macedonians who live in a part of Macedonia land. It's time to ask for forgiveness from the GREEKS and be friends. We have no chanse of taking soething which was never us in the first place. I know it will be hard for you all but the truth must be told and we have to face it. It's time to ask for forgiveness from our Neighbours the Greeks and be friends. IT'S TIME.
makedonchesto 10 months ago
HE SAID, YOU MADE HUGE MISTAKE TO STEAL THE GREEK HISTORY...LOLOLOL
FACT!
MAlexandros1 11 months ago
Slavs you claim you speak macedonian language...lol,
IF SO READ THIS :))))
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Μάθιου Νίμιτς, αναγνώρισε ότι οι Σκοπιανοί είναι Σλάβοι.
ο κ. Μάθιου Νίμιτς αναγνώρισε τη σλαβική καταγωγή των γειτόνων προσθέτοντας:
«Έκαναν τεράστιο σφάλμα στην προσπάθειά τους για αρχαιοποίηση της κοινωνίας και χρησιμοποίηση των αρχαίων ελληνικών μακεδονικών συμβόλων».
.
YOU ARE SLAV BULGARIANS.
FACT!
MAlexandros1 11 months ago
Go Macedonians... you have all the rights of your land and more!! I just wish we could unite into one people that we already are....
Makedonci, pogledajte Glas Serbone
Ivansrbija1989 11 months ago
FABRM
Former
Albanian
Banana
Republic
of
Monkeydonia
ruudjuh16 11 months ago
Are there even any lions in FYROM? lol
Like I mean REAL lions?
sikfreak6969 11 months ago
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FYR OF MONKEYS, FACT
ONLY THE SUN IS OLDER THEN GREECE.
HISTORY THIEVES
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FYROmonkey1 1 year ago
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ONLY THE SUN IS OLDER THEN GREECE.
FACT!
FYROmonkey1 1 year ago
F- ACT
Y- UGOSLAV
R- EPUBLIC
Of
M- ONKEYS
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FYROmonkey1 1 year ago
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olympia the mother of alexander has greek name too.You are Slavs and you came in the area many years after greeks.You dont have any connection with the story of macedonia and alexander and the greek language those ancient reeks were speaking.We are different nations with different storiew and culture, you should accept this and go on with your history, don't blame us and confuse us with you, no connection at all.
California1657 1 year ago
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olympia the mother of alexander has greek name too.You are Slavs and you came in the area many years after greeks.You dont have any connection with the story of macedonia and alexander and the greek language those ancient reeks were speaking.We are different nations with different storiew and culture, you should accept this and go on with your history, don't blame us and confuse us with you, no connection at all.
California1657 1 year ago
Makedonia is a greek word, Alexandros is a greek word= the man who dissipate the men (alex is αλεξ from the ancient greek word αλεξω which means dissipate and andros is from andras-ανδρας which means man,male).The same is for the word alexikeravno (alex=dissipate and keravnos=lightining).The same with the word alexisfairo(alex and sfaira=cannon ball and is what policemen or soldiers wear for their protection).Also, Philippos is from the words phil=φιλώ which means keep and ippos=ίππος=horse.
California1657 1 year ago
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olympia the mother of alexander has greek name too.You are Slavs and you came in the area many years after greeks.You dont have any connection with the story of macedonia and alexander and the greek language those ancient reeks were speaking.We are different nations with different storiew and culture, you should accept this and go on with your history, don't blame us and confuse us with you, no connection at all.
California1657 1 year ago
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olympia the mother of alexander has greek name too.You are Slavs and you came in the area many years after greeks.You dont have any connection with the story of macedonia and alexander and the greek language those ancient reeks were speaking.We are different nations with different storiew and culture, you should accept this and go on with your history, don't blame us and confuse us with you, no connection at all.
California1657 1 year ago
@Deep4174
YOU HAVE THE "DREAM" YOU HAVE LIE
YOU HAVE NOTHING THE DAY NEVER COME FOR YOU
YOU ARE 56%
your are not a country ... you are a political party
the ALBANIANS ARE IN POWER TODAY
Stupid slavs, they are using you...time to wake up and face the truth
lololol
FYROmonkey1 1 year ago
We have the name we have the sun or you call it the star, why did you give macedonians all this if we are greek, cause you are fuken weak cunts. Long live macedonia, you have tried to wipe us out but we are still here, no matter what you say or do we are still gona thrive, because macedonians are strong not like you fuken turks. You day will cum and it will be our turn to laugh. All greeks should die.
Deep4174 1 year ago
Macedonia for the greeks
JugoslaVIJA for the slavs
paoceltic 1 year ago
Skopje is very poor country. Salary there is 200 eu while in Greece is 1500. Skopians mostly women come to Greece to work for Greeks.
nicecar29 1 year ago
@nicecar29 and you have a 300 billion debt.
ZdravkoT112 1 year ago
All of you can speak what you wannet but the world know the true about Macedonia and soon or later will come.And i realy dont know why Greece are fread of Macedonian history proffesors and didnt come on duel on TV beafore all world on CNN like PASKO SAY for greece TV news.Greece is artificial state created by EU!! And now EU shame of her self beacuse of you and your mistakes about Macedonia,Turky-Kipar,Muslims in your country and much more that you say is not true but world can see.
mounten213 1 year ago
Novata Darvinova Teoria glasi:
Всички хора са произлезли от маймуните,а македонците-от българите!
cheraldon 1 year ago
this is my macedonia!!!
gayreece is macedonian!!!
c1bor9 1 year ago
If you know to read go on school and read about 1,2,3 balkan warr and see how is Macedonia divided on 4part 1is in Greece 2in Bulgaria 3 is now free MACEDONIA and 4 is in Albania.Also Greece get rid of the Ottoman Empire before Macedonia but Aegean Macedonia was under Turkish rule because he belongs to Macedonia and Greece did not fight for him, but the Macedonians as GOCE DELCEV die for her freedom and later Europe in the Balkan wars assign Aegean Macedonia to Greece and now is your Macedonia?
mounten213 1 year ago
WATCH IT FROM START TO END
youtube.com/watch?v=3wwXOmFHqts
youtube.com/watch?v=aZvbQXYvJ_A
NOW SHUT UP MONKEYS
kostasdania 1 year ago
@kostasdania i can say only 1 think HELLASS
mounten213 1 year ago
MACEDONIA IS GREEK
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
@unfukkkmee, if Macedonia is Greek, why you divided it in 1913? Why to divide something yours?
forevermkd 1 year ago
@forevermkd MACEDONIA IS GREEK / HELLENIC
stop slavic propaganda you have no idea for history
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
@forevermkd Ww didnt divide anything, we liberate Macedonia from turks, the only region we lost is the Monastiri region,the Serbian army wait for Hellenic troops to arrive but the army moved to liberate Thessaloniki.So 90% of ancient Macedonia is free again.Later this area given to Yugoslavia.
When central and north FYROM was Macedonia?
stone4534 1 year ago 3
I talk about the region of Macedonia in that period, 1913!
However in the documents from Buckhurest agreement is written that Greece OCCUPIED Aegean Macedonia, and also your king from that South Macedonia is "an occupied territory" by Greece.
I am from Salonika and there now lives some Turkish-Christians, United Macedonia!
forevermkd 1 year ago
@stone4534 WHAT LIBERATE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHEN NO1 CAN SAY THAT HES MACEDONIAN AND WHERE IS MACEDONIAN FLAG IN SOLUN OR TESALONIKI YOU SAY NOW BUT READ IN OLD ARCHIVE HOW IS THE NAME OF TESALONIKI BEAFORE 1950Y AND HOW YOU SAY ABOUT TESALONIKI AND ANOTHER CITY OF AEGEAN MACEDONIA AND WHY SO MUCH MACEDONIAN ARE EXILED FROM THIS PART IN 1963Y? AND GO IN BUCUREST AND READ ABOUT BUCUREST CONTRACT FOR BALKANS WARR WITH 1 WORD STUDY HISTRY DONT LISTEN TV AND GREECE PROPAGANDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mounten213 1 year ago
@mounten213
you really believe what are you saying? Thessaloniki has the same name since bilded from Kasandros. Go read the theary yourself and tell me where says about divisor.
My friend your first roots and where your ancestors active participated in creating was the First Bulgarian Empire.
And about 1913 you better wonder your absence from history.You was part of Bulgarian army.
stone4534 1 year ago
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@forevermkd We didnt divide anything, we liberate Macedonia from turks, the only region we lost is the Monastiri region,the Serbian army wait for Hellenic troops to arrive but the army moved to liberate Thessaloniki.So 90% of ancient Macedonia is free again.Later this area given to Yugoslavia.
When central and north FYROM was Macedonia?
stone4534 1 year ago
@forevermkd short but sweet question:D
ама им го накекери браво со 2збора:)
mounten213 1 year ago
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Alexander the Great unified the Greeks before he heightened Greek culture in the East. Makedonia is a Greek homeland with Greek history. Phillip and Alexandros were Great Greeks.
nmt1969 1 year ago
An akousei o megas Alexandros oti autoi oi malakes lene oti einai apogonoi tou tha trabaei ta arxidia tou mexri na kserizosoun
mounakiasmikros 1 year ago
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HEY GUYS. I AM TIRED TO WATCH YOUR STUPID COMMENTS. WHAT I CAN SEE IS THAT GREEKS SPEAKING WITH DOCUMENTS. I CHECKED MANY LIBRARIES AND I DIDNT FIND ANY LIE. THEY ARE RIGHT. SOMETHING IS NOT GOING WELL WITH YOUR SIDE. WHAT I FOUND FOR YOU IS THAT YOU ARE MAKING HISTORY TAKING PARTS FROM DIFFERENT COUNRIES. EVEN YOUR FLAG IS ASIAN DESIGN. ALL AROUND THE WORLD PEOPLE HATE FAKE THINGS. WITH YOUR COMMENTS THE GREEK SIDE IS GETTING VERY STRONG BECAUSE THEY ARE RIGHT. THANKS
HuangdiQinShi 1 year ago
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the answer was given by Kiro Gligorov - The Macedonian Truth (03 06 1992)
look for it here on youtube....as of u people FYROMians....GET A LIFE!!!...
a real life with a identity that is yours!!!
kostasdania 1 year ago
Gypsiesland Skopje !!!! Gammiolides.
AnimalFriendSpain 1 year ago
@AnimalFriendSpain HAHAHAH GUPSY FROM EGUPT CALL HELL ASS HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
goranbk 1 year ago
Macedonia forever, long live Republic of Macedonia, long live macedonians
dacevoyager 1 year ago
for ever united macedonia
MAKTIGAR 1 year ago
you put 2 true Hellenic symbols as real Macedonia was and still Greek...first the crown of Greek God Helios (sun of vergina)...second the Nemean Lion , Hercules's first labour..its so simple...macedonia is greek...!!!
Heraclides82 1 year ago
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watch google video:
Thomas McEvilley on 'The Shape of Ancient Thought'
check out youtube vid:
Burke Lecture: Buddhism in a Global Age of Technology
qaplatlhinganmaH 1 year ago
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makedoncheto WHAT A BRAVE SCOPIAN
HE BLOCK ME TO YOUR VIDEO PAGE
I AM NOT SURPRISE ALL SCOPIANS WHEN THE THINGS GET HARDER ACT LIKE SISYS (ONE MORE PROVE THAT IS NOT MACEDONIAN)
BLOCK ME AGAIN BECUSE I AM SURE YOU YOU CANT FIGHT ME OTHEREWISE
IF SUCCEED TO BLOCK ME IN THIS PAGE IS MEDAL OF HONNOR TO ME
FUCK SCOPIANS MACEDONIA IS GREECE
PAZARIMEN
pazarimen 1 year ago
MACEDONIA FOREVER
MacedoniaNik 1 year ago
ALEXANDER addressing the dead ATHENIANS after the battle of Chaeronia:
" Holy shadows of the dead, I'm not to blame for your cruel and bitter fate, but the accursed rivalry which brought SISTER NATIONS and BROTHER PEOPLE, to fight one another, I do not feel happy for this victory of mine. On the contrary, I would be glad BROTHERS if I had all of you standing here next to me, since we are united by the SAME LANGUAGE. the SAME BLOOD and the SAME visions"
(Curtius Rufus 6,3,11 Historia)
hoplitespao 1 year ago 2
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Firstly to be Honest u all greek ppl need to be educated before u write coments as such.The facts are :If Macedonia and macedonian ppl doesnt exist There Wouldnt be any of u greeks on this land. U are very dishonest ppl and u make FAKE stories up in your heads which in Fact are fake stories.U have your country and dont intervene in other ppl countries Eg R Macedonia. Be happy with wht u have and stop this bull shit once and for all.Respect for REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA
UNITED MACEDONIA
goce7com 1 year ago
MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS
TheMakGreat 1 year ago
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w w w . macedonia-is-bulgarian.blogspot . c o m
Bulkhan 1 year ago
Ако се Македонски, тогаш сте на грчкиот јазик. Ако мислите дека не сте грчки тогаш ти си Словен. Што ви се;
MATRAS92 1 year ago
ние сме на словенско потекло !
Gimliiiiii 1 year ago
Можеби ние сме на словенско потекло;
MATRAS92 2 years ago
mesani sme
Blad771 1 year ago
The meaning of the name Macedonia in Ancient Greek.
The name of the latter two probably derives from the Doric noun μᾶκος, mākos (Attic and modern Greek μάκρος, mákros and μῆκος, mēkos), meaning "length", and the adjective μακεδνός, makednós, meaning "tall, taper", since both the Macedonians (Makedónes) and their Makednoi tribal ancestors were regarded as tall people.
HaxaaN 2 years ago
Question: if they were not Greeks why did they use one 100% Greek name to define their own nation?
HaxaaN 2 years ago
Why do we have bulgarian alphabet in Skopjie???
130Z130Z 2 years ago
Η ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ ΕΙΝΑΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ
ΣΤΑΜΑΤΗΣΤΕ ΠΑΛΙΟΜΑΙΜΟΥΔΕΣ ΝΑ ΑΣΧΟΛΕΙΣΤΕ
ΕΝΑ ΝΤΟΥ ΕΙΣΤΕ ΣΕ 3 ΩΡΕΣ
ΘΕΛΟΥΜΕ ΕΙΡΗΝΗ ΑΛΛΑ ΣΤΑΜΑΤΑΤΕ ΝΑ ΜΑΣ ΠΡΗΖΕΤΕ ΤΑ ΑΡΧΙΔΙΑ
ΑΝ ΘΕΛΕΤΕ ΠΟΛΕΜΟ ΘΑ ΤΟΝ ΕΧΕΤΕ
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ=ΕΛΛΑΔΑ=ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ
strakastrukas 2 years ago 18
@strakastrukas /watch?v=VHQ4lmfuV40 go and take a look jerk
mklostsoul 6 months ago
fuck you all you fag greece hores.... Ur even mixed up with the persians u faggots
zuiop08 2 years ago
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@zuiop08 ...Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
Arrian, Anabasis of Alexander II, 14, 4 (Loeb, P. A. Brunt) - 95-175 AD
Is there anything else to say ??
..
2005defender 2 years ago
banana banana monkeys
monkeys go to jungle
skopians go to turkey with muslims
greece makedonia orthodoxy
12345papas 2 years ago
fiuck you all gay motherfuncking SKOPIANS assfuckers and albanian turkey gypsis WITHOUT VASELINE
MONKEYS GO JUNGLE
12345papas 2 years ago
fiuck you all gay motherfuncking greece assfuckers and albanian turkey gypsis
GAY-GREECE MOTHERFUCKERS
EAT MY SHIT WHILE I PUNCH YOUR FACES LIKE BALLS.....
MAKEDONIJA ZA MAKEDONCITE
zuiop08 2 years ago
i fuck your maam every dayyy
papastaur 2 years ago
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On May 18th, 2009,
357 Classical Scholars from around the world, sent a letter to the President of the
United States of America, Barack Obama for the Origin of Greek Macedonia!!!! Open your eyes
panos1977 2 years ago
donmiguelyangel YOU... I Say YOU boy are a mutant Ethiopian-Turk- Asia Minor Mixed Motherfucker!
I don't need to steel any history because it is mine and every Macedonian's! My whole line of desendents have always called themselves macedonians! now after hating macedonians for centuries you claim them to be greek? hahaha omg wake up to urself
AncientMkd 2 years ago
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/watch?v=Q36tSlVBlvU
National Geographic maps of the Balkans states 1915 - 2006.
FYROM: HOW A LIE BECOME TRUE
ypruss 2 years ago
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face it fucking bulgarians in denial!!!!!!!northmacedonia the country!identity northmacedonian!language northmacedonian!every official document out and inside will be northmacedonian!the code mk will become NM AND THE 126 COUNTRIES THAT RECOGNISED YOU WILL CHANGE ACCORDING TO THE DECISION OF THE UN!!!!ENJOY THE HUGE COCK UNTIL YOUY DIE BLEEDING!!!!
tzakos1982 2 years ago
Macedonia To The Macedonians!
Fuck Serbia!
Fuck Bulgaria!
And Especially FUCK GREECE!
Cradle Of Democracy My Ass, A Democracy Would Recognise Minorities In It's Country & Not Be So Stupid As To Believe They Are Direct Desendents Of The Ancient Hellenes! Every Country Is Mixed But What I Have In Common With Alexander Is That I Call Myself A MACEDONIAN JUST LIKE HE DID! NOT THIS BULLSHIT GREEK-MACEDONIAN! THERE IS NO SUCH THING!
ALEKSANDAR MAKEDONSKI!
DA ZIVEJ MAKEDONIJA, SEGA I ZA SECOGAS!
AncientMkd 2 years ago
@AncientMkd YOU... I say YOU boy are a mutant bulgarian,You boy dont have any history.You boy stole somebody else's past that lived at least 1000 years before your mutant race came about and because your past is not glorious-
donmiguelyangel 2 years ago
We gonna let you use the root MAC as follows
REPUBLIC OF MAC DONALDS
REPUBLIC OF MAC BUSH
REPUBLIC OF MAC CLINTON
REPUBLIC OF MAC NIMITS
REPUBLIC OF MAC CARTNEY (paul)
REPUBLIC OF MAC NUGGETS or MAC CHICKEN, or MAC RIB or MAC FISH.
bazoukaz 2 years ago 2
you are dreaming a fake Monkeydonia....so stupid. With too many lions you are ZOO-KEDONIAN!!! Hahaha...
panos1977 2 years ago
... greetings from turkey
turkishpeacelove 2 years ago
Kako i ovaa pesna jas tolku mnogu chestitki od turcija
sorry bad makedonian ... :))))
turkishpeacelove 2 years ago
fuck all bastard skopjash.makedonia is only one mother fuckers inGREECE.die all vardarska people.go to hell.
nickrow85 2 years ago
hahah stupid gypsy .... your nation is gypsy nation .. fact!
carefreejoro 2 years ago
GREAT FUCK FROM GREECE 86-54
ANTONIS1986LOK 2 years ago 10
Very well, but what about the flag from ilindensko vostanie in witch with bulgarian letters and in bulgarian is written "sloboda ili smjart" ?????
neshereagle 2 years ago
WHO GIVES A FUCK ABOUT FUCKIN greece !!!
kostaegeec 2 years ago
your politicians that negotiate lol
sath8 2 years ago
fuck you in 1900 you dont ecxist fuckerrrrrrrrrrrrr
papastaur 2 years ago
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Attention scopjans
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Bozhidar Dimitrov gives away € 1 million euro
if the bear even one ( 1 ) historical document , Of your "macedonism"
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.Cause of the Bulgaria historian minister without portfolio Ntimitrof,
indicating that it lies on the "Macedonian" ethnicity.
Hardens the attitude of Bulgarians towards Gruevski and his company
zygste 2 years ago
What are Slavs doing with ancient Greek symbols?
GeoBBB123 2 years ago 3
Macedonia will always be Macedonian till the end of time. Greece is Ethiopian and Turkish soil forever.
TuranianWarrior1 2 years ago
looks like macedonia will never become slavic in history, cause even your ancestors tried that hard , they ended up living in paionia and making their descedants fantasising they r sth they r not, in order to have a chance to achieve sth they were unable to do by war
sath8 2 years ago
FUCK OFF GAY-REEK
kikozakon94 2 years ago
god have pity on you idiots.
Phantom1Rider 2 years ago
True Macedonian is a person that at least can undestand this : Ο Αλεξανδρος ο Μεγας ηταν Ελλην (For those who have no idea about history, this is the maternal language of King Filippus and Alexander the Great).
Fake Macedonia(Aka Monkeydonian) is the one that says : Александар Велики су Словени
lolololol!!! Miserable Slavs.
PS:VARDAR-SKATA.(Fyrom-shit)
GODDIONYSUS 2 years ago 2
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The sun of Vergina existed severals centuries before greek macedonian used it...
-we saw it on a Spartan Amphoreus 6th CenturyBC (Museum of Louvre)
-Amphoreus with Achilles (5thBC)
-Amphoreus with Hercules and Athena (480BC)
-Inside the temple of Nemesis in Thamnous (436BC)
-Ancient greek hoplites pictures (400BC Museum of Napoli)
-780BC: art of destruction of Troy on a warrior's hump. (found in cycladic island)
hoplitespao 2 years ago
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Google. "macedonia evidence" !!! The list of 200 (+113 after) Classical Scholars (Historians, Archaeologists) that co-signed and support the letter sent to President Barack Obama for the truth about macedonia.
READ IT!
HellasItalia4 2 years ago
i have read it and it's completely nonacademic and is a joke. have you read the many criticisms of this letter? did you know many of the "classical scholars" have removed their names from the letter? you fucking losers get off our Macedonian dicks already.
mkballer123 2 years ago
macedonia is greece....
tzakos1982 2 years ago 2
Macedonia is derived from 2 ancient Greek words. "Mekos" and "Adonis" or "Makednos" meaning "the tall one" reffering to the stature of the peoples of this ancient Greek tribe.
rodworx 2 years ago
The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia's territory was named Macedonia during the Ottoman Empire in the19th century identifying a GEOGRAPHICAL region NOT the ancient KINGDOM OF MACEDON. FYROM occupies 1/10 of the ancient Kingdom of Macedon, while authentic Macedonia (now a Greek province) in Greece occupies 9/10 of the ancient Kingdom of Macedon.
rodworx 2 years ago 2
FYROM, a very new state in the Balkans with citizens mainly of Slavic and Albanian origin decided to monopolize the Greek terms Macedonia which was given to them by General Tito in 1944, despite the fact that those terms have been in use for 2800 years describing the ancient Macedonian Kingdom, part of the Greek World and the actual Macedonians, a Greek people (Dorians).
rodworx 2 years ago
The name "macedonia" was given to the Southern Yugoslavian providence by General Tito aiming to create conflict in the region and to obtain Greek and Bulgarian territories. Before the 2nd World War FYROM was called Vardarska.
rodworx 2 years ago
Extremely interesting is the U.S. State Dep. Foreign Relations Vol. VII, Circular Airgram [868.014], which was sent by then Secretary of State E. Stettinius, December 26th 1944, to all consular officials, informing them of the act to create a separate "Macedonia," as a "cloak for aggression against Greece."
rodworx 2 years ago
"......................................This Government considers talk of "Macedonian Nation", "Macedonian Fatherland", or "Macedonian National Consciousness" to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic or political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece".
rodworx 2 years ago
and you are mazo-chist
brainstrommnc 2 years ago
macedonia isnt greece u fuks
greece was macedonia and alexander is maso
masos69 2 years ago
I am Macedonian
I am Greek
I live in Macedonia
I live in Greece
paradiso221983 2 years ago
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Hard facts :
The opinion of more than 200 Academics from all over the world on the Macedonian issue. Enjoy:
macedonia-evidence (dot) org
madedonia-evidence (dot) org/obama-letter (dot) html
Miserable morons and uneducated gypsies from Vardarska are not able to develop civilization. So, it is easier to 'invent' it, by forging and exploiting Greek history! Shame on you, dirty rats !!!
AetolianEagle 2 years ago
its working isnt it you monkey.....
Ez06 2 years ago
THERE ARE ALREADY 201 SIGNATURES OF UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS AGAINST SKOPIAN PROPAGANDA SO FAR
Ad the list goes on....till there is no Skopje any more!
BY UNIVERSITY PROFESSORS ALL AROUND THE WORLD
GOODBYE SKOPIAN PROPAGANDists!!!
THE SHAME WILL BE ALL YOURS
brainstromnc 2 years ago
astanai 2 years ago
i agree with you slavian people..united macedonia in greece..there are some greek cities in macdonaldonia
giorgospapas85 2 years ago 2
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ
A, B, Γ, Δ, Ε, Ζ, Η, Θ, Ι Κ, Λ, Μ, Ν, Ξ, Ο, Π, Ρ, Σ, Τ, Υ, Φ, Χ, Ψ, Ω.
That is the Greek alphabet! Look at yours, illiterate thieves, and try to read inscriptions at ΒΕΡΓΙΝΑ.... Sweet dreams....
ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ Ο ΜΑΚΕΔΩΝ vs ALEKSANDAR MAKEDONSKI !!!!!
Like say Greek alphabet vs Bulgarian alphabet!!!
Tsakonas1982 2 years ago 5
That symbol is Greek, and registered at internasional organisations as a greek emblem, so put it down, and STOP cheating Greek symbols.
You can find it not only at makedonia, but everywhere in Greece, from Peloponnese, Parthenon .....
stone4534 2 years ago 11
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Macedonia NEVER Hellenic
vdisavm 2 years ago
IT WAS AND IT IS, from begging until now and forever.
stone4534 2 years ago 17
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The ancient Macedonians were a distinct nation, separate from their neighbors, the ancient Greeks, Illyrians, and Thracians. MACEDONIA NEVER HELLENIC
vdisavm 2 years ago
never was something else!!!!!!
thracians was not greek , they Hellenize after.
But the dorians was greek , always, like other dorians the Lakedaimonians (sparta).
Thats why you cant seperate them....from greek nation.
stone4534 2 years ago 16
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@stone4534 this video will clear up all the historical issues
watch?v=EC937xQPKNM
CornFedArmen 1 year ago
@stone4534 MACEDONIA ARE GREEKS
THRACIANS ARE GREEKS
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
How is possible Macedonia to be Greece.They have own flag,kings,fighters for freedom and we all know about exiled macedonians from 1963 who leave now in KANADA. AUSTRALIA USA etc.And they talk about it.For example my grandfather was born in Voden and he was witness of the Greek persecution And the whole family was persecuted except the futher of my grandfuther who was killed and he tell me about all this and he telling to every1 about this and hes not alone there is thousands like hem! HELLASS
mounten213 1 year ago
@mounten213 wake up!!
macedonia is greece by race culture history.EVERYTHING.
u are slav ergo u can not be MAKEDON simple as that.
u can be bulgar slav turk albanian or whatever else born in macedonia but this doze not make u makedon.
u would never have any probs with greece if u choose another name for your country but macedonia?
since when macedon?
example
turks live in cyprus but they are not cypriots they are stil turks
u can be sovinist and blind but ignorand and stupid?
kostasdania 1 year ago
THRACE IS GREEK
MACEDONIA IS GREEK
@mounten213 STOP RACISM. AND BULGARO-TURKISH PROPAGANDA DEATH TO USA DEATH TO SLAVS DEATH TO TURKALBANIANS DEATH TO UK DEATH TO ENGLAND
unfukkkmee 1 year ago
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hellinic turks dont know if they came from a donkey or a donkey shit.
zoran6062 2 years ago
Macedonia the Land of Alexander you have a great History and a great Past.
May God save you from The Greeks(History Stealers) and from the
Bulgarians(Nomads).
Romania is with you and we will always be with you !
LatinLegion90 2 years ago
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bravo finaly someone knows what there talking about.
zoran6062 2 years ago
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Thank you for the support Romanian friend, you are also great nation, but unfortunately in the Balkans are still non balanced Nations, such as loser nation without history bulgarians (tatars) and mix of ethiopinans and turks which steal all history associated with the Balkans, named greeks..
But dont worry, we shall rule again on balkan!
Greetings from Macedonia
pero1008 2 years ago
Peter Green, British classical scholar:
"Macedonia as a whole was tended to remain in isolation from the rest of the Greeks..."
("Alexander the Great", p. 20)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
R. M. Cook, British archaeologist:
"Macedonia and Epirus were the buffers of Greece in Europe. "
("The Greeks until Alexander", 1962, p. 23)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
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zoran6062 2 years ago
Francois Chamoux, French historian:
" Such a glorious ancestry was in the eyes of Greeks the hallmark of the Hellenic persona of the king of Macedon, who could, on the other hand, rely on fidelity of the people from which he had sprung. The Greek cities did not feel that they were allying with a barbarian, since for generations the Macedonian dynasty had been allowed, as Greeks, to take part in the Olympic Games. "
("Hellenistic Civilization", Blackwell Publishing Professional, 2002, p.8, 9)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
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FYROMian friends, heavy propaganda victims, dont be history rappers!!! Learn to be proud of your SLAVIC origin and STOP CLAIMING THAT YOU ARE MACEDONIANS!!! You had enough brainwashing, time to face the truth!! You are SLAVS and you speak a SLAVIC LANGUAGE originated from BULGARIAN but SERBIANIZED, so you can't be Macedonians, since TRUE MACEDONIANS WERE AND ARE GREEK PEOPLE, speaking GREEK SINCE ANCIENT TIMES!!! Wake up; you are fooling yourselves and THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT YOU!!!
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
Kiro Gligorov, first president of the FYROM:
"We are Slavs who came to this area in the sixth century ... we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians!" (Foreign Information Service Daily Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992, p. 35)
"We are Slav Macedonians. That's who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia! Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century AD."
(Toronto Star, March 15, 1992)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
Hahaha go to Next page and read who were macedonians, dont shit around. World already recognized you like egyptean, because only egypteans spam like you on games/forums/webs etc... Imma use arap letter also i hope you gonna understand me ..
مقدونيا للمقدونيين
spanco2000 2 years ago
Victor Ehrenberg, German historian:
"Alexander and the Macedonians carried Greek civilization into the East."
("The Greek State", Methuen, July 2000, p.139)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
George Cawkwell, Emeritus Fellow, University College, Oxford:
"The Macedonians were Greeks."
("Philip of Macedon", Faber & Faber, London, 1978, p. 22)
Cheers, FYROMian! ;)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
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Hahaha go to Next page and read who were macedonians, dont shit around. World already recognized you like egyptean, because only egypteans spam like you on games/forums/webs etc... Imma use arap letter also i hope you gonna understand me ..
مقدونيا للمقدونيين
spanco2000 2 years ago
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hey goergi stay out of it ,all your books written by the winners of war and pomme policy which split my people up can go F themselves every you poms have gone has turned to shit eg. arabia , africa oh and did i mention macedonia . I am and will always be macedonian but i had to move to aust from the persicusion of the hellinic turks . SHUT UP AND MIND YOUR OWN BUS POM
zoran6062 2 years ago
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the great gligorov the biggest sriboman in the world who would listen to the shit he speaks .The guy was raised in serbia why wouldnt he say that.long live true macedonians and our history and may god curse outsiders who stick there noses where it doesnt belong
zoran6062 2 years ago
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Gyordan Veselinov, diplomat of the FYROM:
"We are not related to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian There is some confusion about the identity of the people of my country." (Ottawa Citizen, 24 February 1999)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
1.
Denko Maleski, politician of the FYROM:
"The idea that Alexander the Great belong to us, was at the mind of some outsider political groups only! These groups were insignificant the first years of our independence but the big problem is that the old Balkan Nations have been learned to legitimate themselves through their history."...
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
2.
"In Balkans, if you want to be recognised as a Nation, you need to have history of 3000 years old. So since you made us to invent a history, we invent it! [...] You forced us to the arms of the extreme nationalists who today claim that we are direct descendents of Alexander the Great!"
(In an interview for Greek TV channel Mega, November 2006)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
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Eugene N. Borza, American historian, expert on Macedon:
"Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and 'Macedonians', cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical Slavic factions—mostly émigrés in the United States, Canada, and Australia—even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity."
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
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"The twentieth-century development of a "Macedonian" ethnicity, and its recent evolution into independent statehood following the collapse of the Yugoslav state in 1991, has followed a rocky road. In order to survive the vicissitudes of Balkan history and politics, the "Macedonians", who have had no history, need one."
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
Enjoy reading all spots from 1-15.
-Macedonia for macedonians,
-Dead for greektards
-greeks does not exist anymore, they disappeared when egypteans invade the whole greek territory.
spanco2000 2 years ago
3.
"They reside in a territory once part of a famous ancient kingdom, which has borne the Macedonian name as a region ever since and was called "Macedonia" for nearly half a century as part of Yugoslavia. And they speak a language now recognized by most linguists outside Bulgaria, Serbia, and Greece as a south Slavic language separate from Slovenian, Serbo-Croatian, and Bulgarian."
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
4.
"Their own so-called "Macedonian" ethnicity had evolved for more than a century, and thus it seemed natural and appropriate for them to call the new nation "Macedonia" and to attempt to provide some cultural references to bolster ethnic survival. " ("Macedonia Redux", in "The Eye Expanded: life and the arts in Greco-Roman Antiquity", ed. Frances B Tichener & Richard F. Moorton, University of California Press, 1999)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
1. The ancient Macedonians were a distinct nation, separate from their neighbors, the ancient Greeks, Illyrians, and Thracians. The ancient Greek and Roman historians tell us that the Macedonians spoke a separate Macedonian language and had their own customs, culture, and traditions. Archeological discoveries confirm that the material culture of the Macedonians also defer greatly from all their neighbors, and it is by far more superior in artistry (gold, paintings, weapons, mosaics)
spanco2000 2 years ago
then anything found in contemporary Greece, Illyria, and Thrace. The texts of the ancient writers distinguish the Macedonians from the ancient Greeks, just like they distinguish the Romans and the Carthaginians. Yet, like the other non-Greeks, Carthaginians, Romans, Illyrians, and Thracians, the Macedonian high society also used the Greek language along with Macedonian. Greek was spoken by the nobility of many different ancient nations,
spanco2000 2 years ago