Evidence for Evolution: Pseudogenes (and the platypus)

[darkfur35]

evolution is a false theory..

[stuchly1]

"mammals don't lay egggs" echidna and platypus still do... =D

[EdaP79]

this is still retarded, no person has ever seen two like animals make a different animal. two goats still make a goat. forever this will happen they wont become humans. and if we evolved from apes then why the hell are those damn things still around and not humans duh!!! similar genes mean a common creator. Fucking morons.

[elsbymike]

Creationists think the world is only 6000 years old and man ran around with dinosaurs!!! Ignorance abounds!!!

[Answerquestions1]

mammals do not share ´´pseudogenes´´ with other classes of animals, so in any case, pseudogenes disprove the idea that mammals share a common ancestor with reptiles, birds, fish etc.

[jbkgjbkg]

@Answerquestions1 Why the fuck does two species of mammal lay eggs then?

[skoockum]

@jbkgjbkg When mammals first evolved they all laid eggs. It just happens that two egg laying mammals live in niches that haven't been more efficiently exploited by placental or marsupial mammals.

The lesson that evolution teaches is that newer doesn't mean better. Sometimes the new form is better at survival, sometimes it's not.

[jbkgjbkg]

@jbkgjbkg Because they where isolated from the rest of the world on Austraila and New Guinea. They found a niche where no or few other lifeforms competed with them and that's why their offspring are still alive today.

[AllstarCanadian]

Ah ha ha ha, you left out most of that speech with Francis Collins... probably stopped it when he got to the part about creation. Because I just watched an 3 interviews on him, and read his book (The language of God), and he is not only a creationist, he is also a christian. He thinks that Christianity changed as people spread out through thousands of years, and that every religion is right, and there is a God.

[ndjarnag]

@AllstarCanadian Francis Collins, head of the NIH, is a brilliant scientist and Christian as well. However, he is not a creationist. A link for the entire speech is found in the description box.

[AllstarCanadian]

@ndjarnag Christians are creationists. They believe that God is the creator. The world is an intelligent design not a series of random accidents.

[malithe00]

The ONLY evidence for evolution is supposition, speculation, conjecture and the occasional hoax.

[drfoxcourt]

@malithe00 Since you put it that way, sounds a lot like Creationism, Oh except for all that nasty evidence (extinguished species, speciation, fossil record, genetic similarity, reproduction mechanisms, ...) Yeah At least Creationism doesn't have nasty evidence and fact standing in the way of accepting it as a viable explanation.

All I have to do is believe and ask forgiveness of a tyrannical God

[sapitron]

gene order is conserved because their genomes were created by the same designer . obvious.

[pilgrimpater]

"gene order is conserved because their genomes were created b the same designer .. obvious".

So where is the gene in humans for growing feathers? Where is the gene in a chicken for producing milk? Indeed, where is the gene in snakes for speach?

Created by the same designer? Obviously not.

[middlekk]

I think we do have genes for feathers - but we use the to create hair.

Chickens don't have a milk-producing gene because that's evolutionarily "downstream", as it were.

But your main point is spot on. In fact, if the same design/same designer argument were correct, we'd all have compound eyes like fruit flies.

The fact that the same homeobox genes encode for VASTLY differently organized structures in various species makes that argument completely ridiculous.

[mb0185646]

Wow. You are severely unenlightened sapitron. Congratulations on being ignorant.

[k6yardotcom]

beautifully created. love it!

:) ruben

[srice555]

Why would God place a gene in the Human genome not being used? LOL! I guess buddy have never done software development. Think every function, object, file, etc in Windows XP is being used? HAHAHAHA!!!

[Cephalochordata]

So we are all designed by someone with the skills of a Windows XP programmer?

The disturbing part is how much that would actually explain.

[srice555]

I don't know where you got the XP programmer bit from.

Anyways, must large software is developed in a similar manner I spoke of. A designer rarely makes an asserted effort to remove old functions and code from libraries because it's too much work, and it not completely known if or when the suspected old code is used or if will be used again. So it's easier just to keep it around.

[MrCrowley45]

but if God is all-powerful, all-knowing and whatnot, it shouldn't bother him.

[freaky28962]

We're not talking about leaving in a redundant function here. This is a heavily corrupt chunk of data.

[Tavereen]

So you're saying that an omnipotent and omniscient god left the genes for...let's say sickle cell trait(which is incredibly painful and possibly fatal)...in the human genome just because he was lazy? And you then go on to say that this god is also a merciful and loving god? Sorry but even though I write fantasy in my spare time I still can't suspend my disbelief enough to swallow that load of crap.

[srice555]

Those aren't my beliefs. Sounds like you're twisting what some bapist bible thumper said.

I think God is hands off and simply set the wheels in motions.

Your words suggest a very clouded and angry mind. What ever your issue is, God is not your problem.

[Tavereen]

That is what your words say. You say that god got things started and just let them go. That is akin to a parent bringing a child into this world and then just sitting back while they struggle to survive.

[srice555]

Which has the most freedom of choice? The child with the over protective parent or the child without a parent?

See, freewill is the gift God gave us. We can waste it by making mistakes. Or we can make the best of it by following the universal truths. The bible lays out one version of this, but there are many other.

[Tavereen]

If any human parent acted in the manner that god has he or she would have had their children taken away and probably been jailed. You can not honestly call that god benevolent.

[srice555]

I don't know what you are talking about, but if God were to step in and stop something evil from happening, eg: a man raping a woman, how can he give freewill to us?

I don't know what you have been told, but in the Christian Bible, God destroyed town, flooded, the world, and many other things. Not exactly benevolent.

The God I'm talking (an intelligent force in the universe that created all), and your god (some invisible man in the sky) are very different and incomparable.

[Tavereen]

So where is the empirical evidence that your god exists?

[srice555]

Bend over and I'll show you!

[Tavereen]

Appeal to force, fallacy.

And yes, I know you're being sarcastic.

I can't help but ask for evidence, I'm a PEARList.

[srice555]

Sad to say, for one to see their God, one must look with their own eyes. Religions show the way, but a person must walk it alone. Currently, there is no "evidence" I can provide that will convince you, nor would I even try, as it barely convinces me. However, based on what I have seen, and what I know, I would be a fool to not believe in God.

[Tavereen]

This is all subjective and thus, not concrete, or even evidence.

[srice555]

Look at like this.. We live and understand a 4d world. If we lived in a world without time, how do with provide evidence for time?

[Tavereen]

We couldn't, but for us it would be irrelevant as we would never interact with time nor would the world around us. Your point is moot, completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Straw man arguments will not win this debate for you.

[srice555]

Not trying to do a straw man, nor trying to win any argument, as I really don't care either way. I'm just having a civil debate.

If we lived in a world without time, it does not mean time would not exist. It would only mean time is not in our world. We could not experience time until we travel to a world with time.

I should've used a 2d and 3d example world. It's easier to understand. So think is a 2d/3d world.

[srice555]

As such, we could not provide evidence in our timeless world, as what is required to prove time exists could not exist where it would be needed to prove anything!

In truth, we live in a 10 dimensional universe, but we can only directly experience and understand our 4w world. What proof is there is there of the past or future without a record of it? What record is there of a God expect the fact we exists? Pointless really, as it it circular.

[Tavereen]

Well, we theoretically live in a ten dimensional universe. I'm no mathematician but what I've seen of string theory is mathematically sound.

[srice555]

The root of the string theory is energy that behaves live sound waves.

It is common in many religions that god spoke the universe into existence.

[Tavereen]

Well, common in some, but far from many.

[Tavereen]

If we lived in a world without time then by definition it would not exist. Besides, the existence of something that did not interact with our known universe would be moot as we would not interact with it. It would be supernatural, and thus science would make no comment on it.

And I understood your point, but like I said, it's a moot point.

[srice555]

Exactly.

[moshpiler]

lol yeah. scary...

[Arcto]

Windows is evolving backwards, look at Vista  XD

[Cephalochordata]

Nice, factual, funny, and short. Seems I've found yet another channel to subscribe to :)

The way you recycle the color design from Francis Collin's slides is an exellent detail. It really helps to drive the point.

[joemarklawson]

Good video. The humble platypus is quite a puzzler. And I like the PhIneas and Ferb shots. It's actually a really good cartoon.

I note your links, but have you considered adding EvoBiologist's GULOP video? It's the same topic, but a good, clear explanation.

Also, I strongly advocate my own video on the eye : )

[middlekk]

And, it should be noted that Francis Collins is a committed Christian.

He gets everything right about evolution, but then jumps the shark with some notion about god creating DNA, then Jesus coming.

But his science credentials are impeccable.

[Juniversal]

I never understood how you could believe in Evolution and still consider yourself a Christian (or a member of any other Religous denomination for that matter). Agnostic? Yes. But why you'd blindly except the inherent illogic, overtly supernatural events, contradictions and hypocrisy contained in the bible is beyond me.

[middlekk]

Gould called it "nonoverlapping magesteria".

Others call it cognitive disconnect.

If it's the way people make it through the day, I'm fine with religion, as long as they live like atheists and don't try to hurt themselves or anyone else. And they don't try to sell mythology as science or use those myths to deny the scientific process that provides them so many benefits.

[SuperFlyNB]

Excellent Video

Favoured

[wimscheers]

Vicious animals, just shredded the creationits to pieces.

[winterstellar]

I just love platypuses! Their so weird-looking, but so cute! : )

[ILYIAB]

Great!