seriously why do they keep using the word"predicted" when referring to how the art of war applied to these situations?the art of war wasnt like the mayan prophacy that said"in 2012 the world will end",it didnt say like"in 2561 years, a powerful dictator will be defeated by troops that are forced to fight" so how is it "predicting"????
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Does anyone know the "Games of the General"? It is a board game but unlike Chess, this board game is a game of tactics and deception. When the documentary mentioned deception, this game came to my mind.
The war in Europe.That's another thing.We are in agreement but communists stick to my damn flank because it gave them exclusivity to spread their influence across Europe for the next 50 year block of time.So of course all the historical reverence is always there for wwii,but why the hell is it?Because they are in agreement with us or with us doing their dirty work?
@ZombieRedeemer I understand that since youre from the states you were told that the US made a major contribution in fighting Germany. But that is simply not factually accurate.
And yes - the only reason they opened the 2nd front only when the outcome was clear and the main objective was to capture German military facilities and stop soviets taking them instead.
If the 2nd front wouldnt have been opened the war might have lasted 2 months more tops and USSR would span all the way to Spain.
IDK what she said, but its simply a historical fact that Soviets pretty much were fighting the war with Germany all on their own. Soviets account for 83% of all Nazi loses. The casualties caused by the allies (17% during the ENTIRE war) are totally insignificant, especially those from 1944 on.
You consider the loss of 2000 men a tragedy while in the eastern front 2000 men was just a statistic for a minor clash on a every day basis, you were not even expected to live more than 24 hours.
@Buuub08 I was told that, but i know it wasn't true due to the number of Soviet troops, they coulda singlehandedly taken out Germany on it's own but Hitler also made the mistake of splitting his army in half, he shoulda dealt with the western front first and then attacked Russia
@Buuub08 IDEK why i said half? But yes, you are right. The problem with Hitler is, he wasn't a very skilled Military Commander, but a really good speaker instead, that where he was a horrible dictator
i think hilter must have gone crazy to break pact with Stalin and attack Russia which later proved to be his biggest mistake creating estern front his plan kindda backfired
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@TheWhoaDude It's made by American morons for American morons. Hence the Emersonian philosophy, simplistic analogies and endless repeition of banal and facile information
@defiantwon33 Yes there are morons in every country but America is the only nation that deliberately stupifies it's population. Stupid people have less economic power because they can only perform simply tasks and cannot reskill. They cost less and are more dependant on their capitalist masters. You only need handful of intelligent and educated people to run America. This is done by the 'ivy league' universities. Everyone else is kept as stupid as possible. You are a classic example.
@defiantwon33 For example when I make the link between confucianism (which is what Sun Tzu's writing is) and Emersonian philosophy you haven't the slightest clue what I'm even talking about.
@defiantwon33 All chinese philosphy that flourishes in the main stream is confucian in nature although you are correct. Several authors have contributed to the trend. Ralph Waldo Emerson develops a similar simplistic approach in America designed to 'boil down' complex issues to crass and pithy truisms like 'no pay no play' or 'in it to win it' etc until the reader can't actually deal with anything more complex. Instead like you they attack what is unknown because it doesn't conform .
furthermore, ALL countries stupefy their citizens. a government is, in fact, a living organism that will do whatever it must to ensure its survival. it seems as though you've got so caught up in pointing your finger at america, you've failed to notice the yoke around YOUR neck. it happens -- it stems from a feeling of inferiority which then mutates and masks itself as arrogance and, ultimately, ignorance.....
@defiantwon33 No sir, Japan for example advocates that 70% of their population should have further education simply for the sake of it. Thebes in ancient Greece practiced similar ethics and so have many other states. You are also wrong in supposing I have never spotted the 'yoke' around my neck. I grew up in a fascist state that tried to brainwash us from birth but I left my home and live thousands of miles away now. Like you I felt a stranger in my own land.
.....i'm an expat so i hear it all the time: "oh you're american. fucking arrogant american. you think you're so great. so stupid! america will never be as great as my country!" do you sense the irony in that. no joke. that was what someone actually said to me once. and all i did was say, "hi. how are you?" blaming the american citizen for the faults of the government is ignorant. you can throw in all the $50 dollar words you like to refute that, but you'd just be wasting your time.
@defiantwon33 The my country is better than yours argument is one that will always rage. However many Americans believe their country is better than all others and that they should be more like America. It is this and the seemingly unreasoned violence that emanates from the US that has sadly lead to it being the most hated country in the world over just the last ten years. Quite simply America kills more innocent people than any other nation in it's various theatres of war and their people pay
The American's lost far more men than the Nazis' on that beach, they employed a chess move again, not a go move. It was the Nazis who had the difficult terrain.
doesn't the art of war say when either you or your enemy can move, you should make alliance with other people to give yourself a tactic advantage so wouldn't a alliance with Spain give the allies a place to start the invasion of Europe without the need of a landing operation?
@death8dealer While that is plausible, think of it from Spain's perspective. What does it have to gain? It's lost nothing. Also consider that fact that Germany also wanted Spain as an ally too. It would be an advantage worth getting, but would it really be possible to get? Think of all the resources it would have costed France and the Allies. You can't just have a brilliant plan no matter how genious. You need to have a a reliable plan. It's like saying we'll use the sun for energy.
@AnhThien5o4 well how about this support the rebel in Spain then invade the country under the impression that it's a German ally because the Germans support for the Government in Spain, if they catch spain and German off guard then the plan will cost less people to fight with and less death it's a reliable plan because who said spain is ready for war with anyone? plus the only real help spain can get is from German who has 80 percent of it's army in the east
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@xmaple1x hmmm. you shouldn't play the russians down - they weren't solely playing on superior numbers; they had a plan. they were suckering the nazis deeper and deeper into russia. the russians knew that hitler had picked a poor time to invade, so the russians kept burning anything the nazis could use to resupply while continuing to retreat deeper and deeper into the heart of the motherland.
@defiantwon33 yes, and Napoleonic tactics influenced a LOT of European/Western warfare as well as Gustav Augustus, lessons from WWI, etc. - But this show is about The Art of War & Sun Tzu - so one can imagine the interviewees are asked to stretch how the Art of War tactics could apply.
It's kind of like analyzing Star Wars and how it represents The Iliad, The Bible, and blah blah blah. It's just an academic exercise.
@InvalidAuthorization hey thanks man. i'm not sure which drove your point home more: your 'witty' condescension or the simple fact that you're stating what would be obvious to a prepubescent pimple popper. but hey man thanks for trying to explain something i already know. i like you. you can come over and fuck my sister. lol.
1. it's not america's actions in times of war that inspire my pride, but her actions in times of peace. in other words, pride in my country is currently on hold. and before any of you start going crazy with your accusations, i served my country in the army; i've traveled abroad and seen first hand the results of her foreign policies; i'm aware of the wars she's started for greed and NOT self-preservation, so all of you armchair patriots can quietly suck a dick.
They keep saying that a Chess strategy is a bad thing. However, attrition and causulaties is exactly how Gen. Grant finally defeated Gen. Lee and ended the Civil War.
@hero1naka It also works, but when put on a larger scale. But your attrition war ends up as ww1 and gives you millions of dead. Even Grant regconized several times that his great victories costed great casualties.
God, come on, History Channel, I know you want to appeal to americans, but do you HAVE to use all 3 examples from american military history? Even though the average american probably knows nothing about the history of other countries, at least we could try give them SOME credit...
that is irrelevant. your taking things out of context. the game is who plays the art of war the best. the game is who uses all of sun tzu's principles the best. in the end the americans left.
that is irrelevant. your taking things out of context. the game is who plays the art of war the best. the game is who uses all of sun tzu's principles the best.
@Weissman33 Well i think putting soldiers on death ground is only one factor contributing to the outcome of the war. But when other factors are taken into account you can fight with more confidence.
@Weissman33 primarily because Tet was a surprise attack AGAINST the americans, whereas d-day was a surprise attack BY the americans. it counts for a lot.
9:15 he could have send recon planes at the channel to make the germans think the plane spotted their corse, or the radio station spotted them, that is a myth or a bad thinking
@Weissman33 that's because VC were trained as indirect combatants, while NVA were taught to be direct... if anything, the 10000 VC were willing-to-die loyalists, like Japan's Banzai Chargers
@Weissman33 , the vietcong were not on death ground, they presumed reinforcements and no counter attack of that magnitude. and thats a very ruff number. ive heard it was closer to 14k
At the Tet Offensive, Khe Sanh was just a lure to attract attention and troop to a remote area just south of the DMZ, far away from populated cities of Saigon to impress US and international public opinion and Hue for Vietnamese folk. The trick was easy, for US fear of invasion from the north since Korea, as the "Pas-de-Calais" was for the German in 1944. For a deception to work, it must be based on obssession and deep belief of the opponent.
americans defeated the nazis?? americans, british and the Russians defeated the nazis. Americans would have gotten their butts burned if there hasnt been a eastern front
@tvain86 HEY. HEY. You forgot the Canadians :P They were a pretty big aspect to the ally victory. If it wasn't for the Canadians at Dieppe, Normandy would of been very different. Canadians were a huge part in the liberations of Italy and the Dutch areas (Can't remember if it was the Netherlands, or Belgium. I'm thinking of Netherlands.)
@tvain86 .....its whats happend with all of history .......winners make up BS ....real story slowly forgot ..BS story becomes true and teached in schools
@tvain86 Well without the americans the russian woulde have there asses kickd thats why the nazi dident win the war .they had to fight on two fronts and that was hitlers biggest fail
@Roobbzs the western front provided by the biritish intelligence service. otherwise the americans would have started their campaign in calais and not the normandie. the brits faked a artillery move to calais with tanks ,jeeps and lorries made out of ballons. The brits were the once sunk the bismarck. The americans played their bit but they didnt win anything. it was the alliance which won it and not just the americans! the russians pushed hitler back all the way from moscow without the Americans
@tvain86 Hahah, yeah, dumbasses think the yanks entered to war as "THE" winning factor, like D-Day was the most heroic thing ever. These idiots must learn about what russians had to endure. They kicked out the nazis from their capital city and did this facing scarcity of material. THOSE are real heroes.
@TheRedemptionRain America and Japan was a distraction for the Nazi's lmfao, no one wanted Japan....btw the first 46 days of DDAY, the allies only got to their day 5 checkpoints and they got slaughtered. RUSSIA FTW!
@barod1 Seriously are u Russian or something???? Japan is a distraction???? LOL if it weren't for the Japs attacking PH, America would not enter the war and Nazi Germany would have a much easier time pushing into the heart of Russia, without the American's, Hitlers attention would focus much more heavily on Russia, don't tell me the British can carry a invasion without the US
@TheRedemptionRain If the Japaneese did not attack PH, America would entered the war and the Western front would have been 3215634274236x stronger cause the Americans would put 100% force into it, not 50% 50% (as they did). The Ruski's knew that they were not strong so they implemented Sun Tzu's stragety of do not attack what is strong...the Nazi's used the distraction element and used the Japs. btw im Persian (:
@barod1 How would America enter the war if the Japs didn't attack America? Japs attack America, America declares war on Japan and then Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy declare war on America that simple, and Germany was pushing deep into Russia, Russia suffer more than 2 million causalities, Hitler's forces were dived to 2 when the Allies landed on Normandy, Russia did not fallow everything Sun Tzu said, but they fallow most of the things he said, the were fighting a direct war that cost lives
@TheRedemptionRain Britian would have pushed America into joining allies...like WWI. Germany was pushing deep into russia in the summer, in the winter Russia pushed back because they had the winter technology.
@barod1 Winter technology? They push back the Germans because the Germans were running out of supply, the winter environment was very harsh, and the Russians would take what ever they can when they retreated or they would poison the water, burn the oil, and etc. so the Germans would not have excess to Russian supply, and also some of the German forces from the east went to the west, and you can't possibly know that UK would push America to war since America did not want anything to do with it
@TheRedemptionRain The German tanks, guns etc were not capable of handling the Ruski's Winter they had all the supplies, the fact was their whole invasion was stopped to a halt in Stalingrad. The momentum shifted and the Ruki's went ape shit and fucked the Germans. BTW the U.K would push the U.S UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE to go to war.
@barod1 US wanted no part of the war, unless they were threaten to go to war, if US was so blood thirsty for the Axis they would have join in 1939, but no. Your right about Germans losings momentum in Stalingrad, that was the turning point, but also take in mind Germans are using supply and getting no ware, also think of the cold harsh freezing weather, Russia is like hostile land for invaders, even Napoleon could not conquer the motherland
@TheRedemptionRain The mistake the Germans made was they didn't account for the winter. Thus if they had researched technologies and developed weapons for winter they would have a fighting chance. But we have to account that Russia's feirce comeback from Hitler's invasion turned the tide of the whole war. The Western front was getting no where. It was the Eastern front of the Russians advance and the bombings of the Allied made for a dual threat. But the Russians were the made force.
@barod1 I don't understand what is "winter technology," what do you mean? If you are talking about the fact that Germany fail to prepare for the winter than I understand, and the Allies from the west were getting some where but just not as fast as they wanted thanks to those tall hedgerows, and thanks for proving my point that EVERYONE play a part in the war, you claim that the Allies did good bombing raid on factories, cities, and etc. and Russian made good advancement in to the fatherland
@TheRedemptionRain By Winter Technology im referring to the guns and stuff. For example, the Russian PPSH is perfect for the cold winter because the ammunition and mechanical parts dont frost over long periods in the cold, however the Nazi MP30 did and it failed to fire after a while, the tanks did not have proper heating so the crew froze to death if their tracks stopped moving. But the point im trying to make is that the Russians were more advanced and their objectives were executed better.
@barod1 OK now I understand, basically Germans fail to prepare for the winter because their weapons weren't made for the harsh Russian winter, but my point still stands that EVERYONE played a part for the Allie's victory
however, the tao te ching predates the analects, therefore confucianism is taoist in nature, and not vice versa. i understand emersonian, and think that applying it as a negative would need to encompass all, for all cultures are laden with such expressions. "like me..."? think again; i wasn't attacking something i was unfamiliar with, i was attacking your prejiduce opinion, which i'm very much familiar with. i've been an expat for 13 years.
@defiantwon33 Of course Confucius comes later. The point of him is that he abbreviates largely taoist notions that were immensely complex to grasp and thus unavailable to the masses. Emerson employs similar methods in the US. 'to make an omelette you have to scramble eggs etc' However in isolation these kinds of philosophies are crass and inane and are often used to exclude cognitive skills. - Prejudiced? What have I prejudged about America? You think I have never been to the home of the brave?
"However many Americans believe their country is better than all others and that they should be more like America." i completely agree with you on this point, and find it to be a disagreeable quality. i feel that way about extreme nationalism in general -- signs that a government has done a very nice job in sedating and deceiving its people, BUT, again, this is NOT a quality solely indigenous to america. surely you know this.
@tvain86 Also notice how the Americans waited till the war was almost over to join in? "QUICK! KICK EM WHILE THEY ARE DOWN THEN CLAIM WE WON THE ENTIRE THING!!!" That sadly seems to be the attitude of most Americans
@Urchino1337 Listen, the Americans didn't attack France until 1944 because they were attacked in 1941 and to go straight into the war in Europe after a surprise attack with little training would have been suicide. Also, the Americans were helping the British in North Africa as early as 1942. As Tvain86 said, all of the allies were equally responsible in the victory in Europe. Finally, don't say the US wasn't needed when they basically won the war in the Pacific by themselves
@tvain86 pah, america wasnt THAT weak at that time, remember that it was still the strongest country in the world both before and after WW2 so it couldve taken on all 3 axis even without an eastern front
@tvain86 history channel is an american channel, basically more american propaganda, US troops and generals couldnt have done shit without intelligence from occupied europe. plus the russians were taking a big share of the Nazi army
@Weissman33 its not the same, the american's as they were riding to normady knew what was about to happen and were prepared mentally, but during tet they thought they were going to win and failed completely.
@Weissman33 yes they were routed but they still fought hard cuz they were on death ground the plp in the alamo were on death ground n lost so did the 300 spartans.Remember our policy at that time was to kill as many as possible we did'nt have counter-insurgency then so american soldiers did there jobs.
@Weissman33 remember during tet the viet cong force lost communication with each other.thats when they lost a clear path to victory.they became confused n suffered for it.
What alot of shit D day was Montgomery's plan. Ike sat on his arse after the invadion. Only good USA general was Patten. History chanel again and again lies in the true history of World War two.
STOP viewing world from a view of Berlin wall ok ?
it was polish spy that tricked germans about Cale .
We also broke enigma code , were first to stand and fight against the nazis , were legitmet (we had deal with france and england ) alliance . We suported you tru whole WWII and you sold us off to stalin for peace treaty .
@jethro035181 Did you just said.. a war criminal? Russians invaded Finland, and you call us Nazis becouse we fought against them? Have you ever heard about Ribbentrop-Molotov contract?
@SpedeCO2 ...hitler personally visited mannerheim on his 75th birthday, mannerheim was offered command of all german forces in finland, mannerheim was continually afraid of prosecution by the allied control commission for crimes against peace which was unfortunately curtailed by stalin...finnish forces fought with german equipment and uniforms with most of the insignia unchanged........collaboration ??? smells like it......try reading some neutral sources
@SpedeCO2 ..yes yes winter war..i think you are a lad that has been deluded by the sanitized finnish version of history..no one wants to see themselves as another quisling, petain or szalazi, but the fact remains finland was a client state of germany and then became a client of moscow. my problem is with mannerheim who was a nazi before hitler appeared..he supported the White Russian army and supported the suppression of finnish socialism
Really? If it took a "remedial" Polish Mathematician to break a code which confounded the "brightest" minds of all the Western European countries, then it means that Western Europeans and Americans are retards compared to the Poles. Thank you for proving my statement with your oxy-moronic ( and I stress moronic) comments. For the record, I'm not even Polish. I'm Black.
A *certain* prediction is impossible because you would obviously have to be able to see the future to achieve that, but he was talking about highest probable outcome based on stategical tactics.
I am amazed at how some of you can watch the same video I am....yet not understand anything they are talking about........
the Tet attack was brilliant, and well planned but it took months to get the troops and weapons in the proper locations. there were no re-inforcements coming, and the aid from civilians ended when they started killings innocent people. Although us forces were surprised, that only lasts so long. eventually they would re-group, get re-enforcements and counter attack.
@Weissman33 I was just talking about the tet offensive, it showed in the video that the VC lost the support of the people because they started killing civiliians.
@Weissman33 the difference was the VC was fragmented and had no communication with each other and no moral support of the community, whereas the Allies did have communication and the moral support of the people.
every time the narrator says that "the art of war predicted the victory of the allied forces in WW2. " i fucking cringe. there was no goddamn prediction.
D-day was won by surprise attacking unprepared Germans and overwhelming them , Germans were outnumbered and under supplied compared to Allies so its not surprising that americans managed to brake though lines . WTF are they talking about, Nazis had 20% of ally economic output , there was no way in hell they could have won fighting over large territory .
@Weissman33 This is because the u.S. has superior firepower in Vietnam when Tet happened and in Normandy they had more numbers which means for men put on death ground willing to do what it takes to win
@Weissman33 true but the vietcong did choose the battlefield and the americans were catched off surprise and also the vietcong was just awaiting reinforcements but it was true after they were isolated Viet Cong became isolated
oh so the beaches were a death ground? since the American soldiers deployed have no way to retreat but to the sea, so the troops are motivated to push and push even though they faced heavy fire.
@Weissman33 Then what happen if your opponent anticipate your military force accurately? And what happen if your enemy able to deny your military force effectively?
War cost money, human resources and dignity. Roman Empire fell may be due to one thing, they fought one war too many. And it drained their resources.
but this still cannot say westen armies used chess. This is to critizise India and show that Chinese game is more superior. Western armies must use chess to win the ww2 because ww2 is like a chess game you have almost perfect symmetry...not like the chinese game. Most western armies followed roman ways of fighting like outnumbering the enemy instead of using ambush and using the environment except at the naval battles. but I am not a history specialist ofcource
those Americans did a good job at ww2 because their culture was rich with the smell of new technology and all, but at the vietnam war the culture was more like a pop culture and the smell of new age technology had vanished.
"In war, truth is so precious it must be protected by a bodyguard of lies" - Sir Winston S. Churchill. Neither fortitude North nor South was Ike's idea. It was a hard won lesson from the Dieppe raid that Overlord would need a bodyguard of lies. This programme glosses over a lot of pure dumb luck and makes it out to be planned, but the overall lesson isn't bad. Don't get emotional in battle, use deception, be well informed, listen to advice, Market Garden wouldn't have happened if we had
western people are smart people, but they are more like materialistic. They would use 1000 tanks and not use the terrain. but now they have special forces to even fight on special geographies
seriously why do they keep using the word"predicted" when referring to how the art of war applied to these situations?the art of war wasnt like the mayan prophacy that said"in 2012 the world will end",it didnt say like"in 2561 years, a powerful dictator will be defeated by troops that are forced to fight" so how is it "predicting"????
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Nickkraw 1 month ago
Does anyone know the "Games of the General"? It is a board game but unlike Chess, this board game is a game of tactics and deception. When the documentary mentioned deception, this game came to my mind.
otanix16 1 month ago
1:01 Geico?
FitzroyF 2 months ago
Fucking horrible war in the japan we dropped the nukes the very next day the soviets scumbags invaded japan.
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The war in Europe.That's another thing.We are in agreement but communists stick to my damn flank because it gave them exclusivity to spread their influence across Europe for the next 50 year block of time.So of course all the historical reverence is always there for wwii,but why the hell is it?Because they are in agreement with us or with us doing their dirty work?
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Sederos 4 months ago
Yanks didnt do shit on a stick to win against Germany.
A simple fact of history: Soviets defeated more German troops in a SINGLE BATTLE than the rest of the Allies combined during the whole war.
83% of the Nazi forces were concentrated on the Eastern front, the remaining 17% were all over Europe and N.Africa.
The 2nd front wasnt opened until it was clear that Germany will lose, the reason it was done was to prevent Soviets from going all the way.
Buuub08 4 months ago
@Buuub08 your right, but i just had to say...
Soviets going all the way... THATS WHAT SHE SAID! XD
ZombieRedeemer 3 months ago
@ZombieRedeemer I understand that since youre from the states you were told that the US made a major contribution in fighting Germany. But that is simply not factually accurate.
And yes - the only reason they opened the 2nd front only when the outcome was clear and the main objective was to capture German military facilities and stop soviets taking them instead.
If the 2nd front wouldnt have been opened the war might have lasted 2 months more tops and USSR would span all the way to Spain.
Buuub08 3 months ago
IDK what she said, but its simply a historical fact that Soviets pretty much were fighting the war with Germany all on their own. Soviets account for 83% of all Nazi loses. The casualties caused by the allies (17% during the ENTIRE war) are totally insignificant, especially those from 1944 on.
You consider the loss of 2000 men a tragedy while in the eastern front 2000 men was just a statistic for a minor clash on a every day basis, you were not even expected to live more than 24 hours.
Buuub08 3 months ago
@Buuub08 I was told that, but i know it wasn't true due to the number of Soviet troops, they coulda singlehandedly taken out Germany on it's own but Hitler also made the mistake of splitting his army in half, he shoulda dealt with the western front first and then attacked Russia
ZombieRedeemer 3 months ago
@ZombieRedeemer It was split but not in half. The percentage was more like 80/20, with 80 being on the eastern front.
But yeah, that was his mistake that he went in all directions at the same time thinking it would be a quick war.
Buuub08 3 months ago
@Buuub08 IDEK why i said half? But yes, you are right. The problem with Hitler is, he wasn't a very skilled Military Commander, but a really good speaker instead, that where he was a horrible dictator
ZombieRedeemer 3 months ago
i think hilter must have gone crazy to break pact with Stalin and attack Russia which later proved to be his biggest mistake creating estern front his plan kindda backfired
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TheServiceWeb 5 months ago
Sun Tzu's not the only military philosopher of all time; the other great philosophers include, Aneas Tacticus, Asclepodotus, and Onasander.
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TheWhoaDude 6 months ago
Damn I feel bad for that crossword guy.
pixelbind 6 months ago
I am getting annoyed with the "chess" and "go" metaphors.
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@TheWhoaDude It's made by American morons for American morons. Hence the Emersonian philosophy, simplistic analogies and endless repeition of banal and facile information
CompactJam 2 weeks ago
@CompactJam
that's a weak attempt at a logical jab when, no doubt, there are morons in every country -- you're one.
defiantwon33 2 days ago
@defiantwon33 Yes there are morons in every country but America is the only nation that deliberately stupifies it's population. Stupid people have less economic power because they can only perform simply tasks and cannot reskill. They cost less and are more dependant on their capitalist masters. You only need handful of intelligent and educated people to run America. This is done by the 'ivy league' universities. Everyone else is kept as stupid as possible. You are a classic example.
CompactJam 2 days ago
@defiantwon33 For example when I make the link between confucianism (which is what Sun Tzu's writing is) and Emersonian philosophy you haven't the slightest clue what I'm even talking about.
CompactJam 2 days ago
@CompactJam
to be more precise: the philosophy found in the art of war was largely influenced by the tao te ching.
defiantwon33 1 day ago
@CompactJam
you like using 'emersonian' a lot. did you just learn that word?
defiantwon33 1 day ago
@defiantwon33 All chinese philosphy that flourishes in the main stream is confucian in nature although you are correct. Several authors have contributed to the trend. Ralph Waldo Emerson develops a similar simplistic approach in America designed to 'boil down' complex issues to crass and pithy truisms like 'no pay no play' or 'in it to win it' etc until the reader can't actually deal with anything more complex. Instead like you they attack what is unknown because it doesn't conform .
CompactJam 1 day ago
@CompactJam
furthermore, ALL countries stupefy their citizens. a government is, in fact, a living organism that will do whatever it must to ensure its survival. it seems as though you've got so caught up in pointing your finger at america, you've failed to notice the yoke around YOUR neck. it happens -- it stems from a feeling of inferiority which then mutates and masks itself as arrogance and, ultimately, ignorance.....
defiantwon33 1 day ago
@defiantwon33 No sir, Japan for example advocates that 70% of their population should have further education simply for the sake of it. Thebes in ancient Greece practiced similar ethics and so have many other states. You are also wrong in supposing I have never spotted the 'yoke' around my neck. I grew up in a fascist state that tried to brainwash us from birth but I left my home and live thousands of miles away now. Like you I felt a stranger in my own land.
CompactJam 1 day ago
.....i'm an expat so i hear it all the time: "oh you're american. fucking arrogant american. you think you're so great. so stupid! america will never be as great as my country!" do you sense the irony in that. no joke. that was what someone actually said to me once. and all i did was say, "hi. how are you?" blaming the american citizen for the faults of the government is ignorant. you can throw in all the $50 dollar words you like to refute that, but you'd just be wasting your time.
defiantwon33 1 day ago
@defiantwon33 The my country is better than yours argument is one that will always rage. However many Americans believe their country is better than all others and that they should be more like America. It is this and the seemingly unreasoned violence that emanates from the US that has sadly lead to it being the most hated country in the world over just the last ten years. Quite simply America kills more innocent people than any other nation in it's various theatres of war and their people pay
CompactJam 1 day ago
@CompactJam
all that being said, i do agree with you: it's one of the reasons why i continue to be an expat ;-) i just don't like the way you said it.
defiantwon33 1 day ago
@TheWhoaDude Try a Wash and Go metaphor then
CompactJam 1 day ago
i love the chinese prof he is awesome LMAO.
muffinman1 6 months ago
The eastern front had more Kia Wia Mia than the west.
motofreak95 6 months ago
The American's lost far more men than the Nazis' on that beach, they employed a chess move again, not a go move. It was the Nazis who had the difficult terrain.
Carnuss 6 months ago
why the fuck didn't china listen to this dude before? he's a genius.
ervin920 6 months ago
doesn't the art of war say when either you or your enemy can move, you should make alliance with other people to give yourself a tactic advantage so wouldn't a alliance with Spain give the allies a place to start the invasion of Europe without the need of a landing operation?
death8dealer 7 months ago
@death8dealer While that is plausible, think of it from Spain's perspective. What does it have to gain? It's lost nothing. Also consider that fact that Germany also wanted Spain as an ally too. It would be an advantage worth getting, but would it really be possible to get? Think of all the resources it would have costed France and the Allies. You can't just have a brilliant plan no matter how genious. You need to have a a reliable plan. It's like saying we'll use the sun for energy.
AnhThien5o4 6 months ago
@AnhThien5o4 well how about this support the rebel in Spain then invade the country under the impression that it's a German ally because the Germans support for the Government in Spain, if they catch spain and German off guard then the plan will cost less people to fight with and less death it's a reliable plan because who said spain is ready for war with anyone? plus the only real help spain can get is from German who has 80 percent of it's army in the east
death8dealer 5 months ago
1:00 Geico
RoyalDog214 7 months ago
Great, great work! Also if you have time, check out 'the mind of a leader animation series: the art of war'. It's cool.
MrStrategicmarketing 7 months ago
like a sooommee booodddy ryght? :P
XPS2HC 7 months ago
quit arguing who won
THE ALLIES WON BRITS SOVIETS USA AND OTHERS
mrJxin594 8 months ago
Lol would be funny if the german photo reconnisence actually caught the allied solider "lifting up" an inflated tank
badpanda84 8 months ago
honestly war sucks dick
lilsm555 8 months ago
how about we all won WW2 arguing about it aint going to change jack
BrotherJacksonShikle 8 months ago
1:52 - wtf how come the nazi banner in colour while the photage is black and white ?
unfetteredfreak 8 months ago
I wan't an inflatable life size sherman tank.
rumbl3r 8 months ago
I think Stalingrad where the Russia troops were force to fight would have been a better example for death ground
death8dealer 8 months ago 16
@death8dealer yeah...that will be a good example also...
wardogmobius 2 months ago
if there wasnt the greeks the nazis wher havent been caughted in winter at russia sorry for mistakes
djkapalof 8 months ago
Interesting! If you like The art of War – check out the animated moderne version of chapter 2: The mind of a leader animation series Sun Tzu the art of war.
alibenhaal 8 months ago
American : Cool guys with new weapons
Canadian :Guys that make Nazis cry SNIPER
British : Decisive planners,Tank killers
Russian : Over power numbers of army that kick ass
xmaple1x 9 months ago
@xmaple1x hmmm. you shouldn't play the russians down - they weren't solely playing on superior numbers; they had a plan. they were suckering the nazis deeper and deeper into russia. the russians knew that hitler had picked a poor time to invade, so the russians kept burning anything the nazis could use to resupply while continuing to retreat deeper and deeper into the heart of the motherland.
defiantwon33 9 months ago
@xmaple1x
Germany: All in one.
LaionStudio 7 months ago
4:12 First time I saw this I thought the soldier had balls of steel.
campbpar 9 months ago
how could they possibly decode messages?
somepass1 9 months ago
2. america's use of deception at normandy is better illustrated in The 36 Stratagems: 'Signal East, Strike West', not the Art of War.
defiantwon33 9 months ago
@defiantwon33 yes, and Napoleonic tactics influenced a LOT of European/Western warfare as well as Gustav Augustus, lessons from WWI, etc. - But this show is about The Art of War & Sun Tzu - so one can imagine the interviewees are asked to stretch how the Art of War tactics could apply.
It's kind of like analyzing Star Wars and how it represents The Iliad, The Bible, and blah blah blah. It's just an academic exercise.
InvalidAuthorization 9 months ago
@InvalidAuthorization hey thanks man. i'm not sure which drove your point home more: your 'witty' condescension or the simple fact that you're stating what would be obvious to a prepubescent pimple popper. but hey man thanks for trying to explain something i already know. i like you. you can come over and fuck my sister. lol.
defiantwon33 9 months ago
1. it's not america's actions in times of war that inspire my pride, but her actions in times of peace. in other words, pride in my country is currently on hold. and before any of you start going crazy with your accusations, i served my country in the army; i've traveled abroad and seen first hand the results of her foreign policies; i'm aware of the wars she's started for greed and NOT self-preservation, so all of you armchair patriots can quietly suck a dick.
defiantwon33 9 months ago
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defiantwon33 9 months ago
They keep saying that a Chess strategy is a bad thing. However, attrition and causulaties is exactly how Gen. Grant finally defeated Gen. Lee and ended the Civil War.
hero1naka 10 months ago
@hero1naka It also works, but when put on a larger scale. But your attrition war ends up as ww1 and gives you millions of dead. Even Grant regconized several times that his great victories costed great casualties.
0jrhindo 9 months ago
Americans weren't put on death ground.
WonderNoobie 10 months ago
God, come on, History Channel, I know you want to appeal to americans, but do you HAVE to use all 3 examples from american military history? Even though the average american probably knows nothing about the history of other countries, at least we could try give them SOME credit...
mikeyman2010 10 months ago
@Weissman33
that is irrelevant. your taking things out of context. the game is who plays the art of war the best. the game is who uses all of sun tzu's principles the best. in the end the americans left.
liujeremy888 10 months ago
@Weissman33
that is irrelevant. your taking things out of context. the game is who plays the art of war the best. the game is who uses all of sun tzu's principles the best.
liujeremy888 10 months ago
during ww2 u.s. where more a tool thant a army
CoolKillerClan 10 months ago
@CoolKillerClan
I disagree. The Americans were the key in tipping the balnace of power and finally achieving victory over the Axis.
hero1naka 10 months ago
the 300 were on death ground
misterguy1985 10 months ago
@Weissman33 To understand this we need to learn soemthing from the book "On war" From Carl Von Clasuewitz.
Something which may look like an advantage in one battle, may be a disadvantage in another.
War has no shape. It changes form the whole time, although some main principals always stay. Sun Tzu himself also said this indirectly in his book.
VictumRoManius 10 months ago
@Weissman33 Well i think putting soldiers on death ground is only one factor contributing to the outcome of the war. But when other factors are taken into account you can fight with more confidence.
farfa15 10 months ago
@Weissman33 primarily because Tet was a surprise attack AGAINST the americans, whereas d-day was a surprise attack BY the americans. it counts for a lot.
thebludoc 10 months ago
9:15 he could have send recon planes at the channel to make the germans think the plane spotted their corse, or the radio station spotted them, that is a myth or a bad thinking
NoRacismInThisWorld 11 months ago
@NoRacismInThisWorld yeah then the pilots flying the recon planes are shot down.
1Historygenius 10 months ago
@Weissman33 that's because VC were trained as indirect combatants, while NVA were taught to be direct... if anything, the 10000 VC were willing-to-die loyalists, like Japan's Banzai Chargers
archangel9363 11 months ago
@archangel9363 that answers nothing...
thebludoc 10 months ago
@Weissman33 , the vietcong were not on death ground, they presumed reinforcements and no counter attack of that magnitude. and thats a very ruff number. ive heard it was closer to 14k
SpyTheChochaMan 1 year ago
@Weissman33 actually Vietcong weren't on death ground on tet they could of retreated in to tunnels.
DumDumNews1 1 year ago
gico
winglessraccoon 1 year ago
At the Tet Offensive, Khe Sanh was just a lure to attract attention and troop to a remote area just south of the DMZ, far away from populated cities of Saigon to impress US and international public opinion and Hue for Vietnamese folk. The trick was easy, for US fear of invasion from the north since Korea, as the "Pas-de-Calais" was for the German in 1944. For a deception to work, it must be based on obssession and deep belief of the opponent.
slomoschon2000 1 year ago
americans defeated the nazis?? americans, british and the Russians defeated the nazis. Americans would have gotten their butts burned if there hasnt been a eastern front
tvain86 1 year ago 64
@tvain86 HEY. HEY. You forgot the Canadians :P They were a pretty big aspect to the ally victory. If it wasn't for the Canadians at Dieppe, Normandy would of been very different. Canadians were a huge part in the liberations of Italy and the Dutch areas (Can't remember if it was the Netherlands, or Belgium. I'm thinking of Netherlands.)
GnomePuntingftw 8 months ago
@tvain86 .....its whats happend with all of history .......winners make up BS ....real story slowly forgot ..BS story becomes true and teached in schools
evilscotsmin 8 months ago
@evilscotsmin sooo true. history books just teach personal politic views anyways even though that was meant to be kept out of the classrooms
tvain86 8 months ago
@tvain86 Well without the americans the russian woulde have there asses kickd thats why the nazi dident win the war .they had to fight on two fronts and that was hitlers biggest fail
Roobbzs 8 months ago
@Roobbzs the western front provided by the biritish intelligence service. otherwise the americans would have started their campaign in calais and not the normandie. the brits faked a artillery move to calais with tanks ,jeeps and lorries made out of ballons. The brits were the once sunk the bismarck. The americans played their bit but they didnt win anything. it was the alliance which won it and not just the americans! the russians pushed hitler back all the way from moscow without the Americans
tvain86 8 months ago
@tvain86 Hahah, yeah, dumbasses think the yanks entered to war as "THE" winning factor, like D-Day was the most heroic thing ever. These idiots must learn about what russians had to endure. They kicked out the nazis from their capital city and did this facing scarcity of material. THOSE are real heroes.
RyuuzakiBr 7 months ago
@tvain86 Russians deafeted Nazi's*
barod1 6 months ago
@barod1 no shit genius. English , Americans, Canadians aaaaand Russians defeated the nazis!
tvain86 6 months ago
@barod1 everyone played a major part, Russia just won the race to Berlin...........but America won the race to Japan
TheRedemptionRain 6 months ago
@TheRedemptionRain America and Japan was a distraction for the Nazi's lmfao, no one wanted Japan....btw the first 46 days of DDAY, the allies only got to their day 5 checkpoints and they got slaughtered. RUSSIA FTW!
barod1 6 months ago
@barod1 Seriously are u Russian or something???? Japan is a distraction???? LOL if it weren't for the Japs attacking PH, America would not enter the war and Nazi Germany would have a much easier time pushing into the heart of Russia, without the American's, Hitlers attention would focus much more heavily on Russia, don't tell me the British can carry a invasion without the US
TheRedemptionRain 6 months ago
@TheRedemptionRain If the Japaneese did not attack PH, America would entered the war and the Western front would have been 3215634274236x stronger cause the Americans would put 100% force into it, not 50% 50% (as they did). The Ruski's knew that they were not strong so they implemented Sun Tzu's stragety of do not attack what is strong...the Nazi's used the distraction element and used the Japs. btw im Persian (:
barod1 6 months ago
@barod1 How would America enter the war if the Japs didn't attack America? Japs attack America, America declares war on Japan and then Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy declare war on America that simple, and Germany was pushing deep into Russia, Russia suffer more than 2 million causalities, Hitler's forces were dived to 2 when the Allies landed on Normandy, Russia did not fallow everything Sun Tzu said, but they fallow most of the things he said, the were fighting a direct war that cost lives
TheRedemptionRain 6 months ago
@TheRedemptionRain Britian would have pushed America into joining allies...like WWI. Germany was pushing deep into russia in the summer, in the winter Russia pushed back because they had the winter technology.
barod1 6 months ago
@barod1 Winter technology? They push back the Germans because the Germans were running out of supply, the winter environment was very harsh, and the Russians would take what ever they can when they retreated or they would poison the water, burn the oil, and etc. so the Germans would not have excess to Russian supply, and also some of the German forces from the east went to the west, and you can't possibly know that UK would push America to war since America did not want anything to do with it
TheRedemptionRain 6 months ago
@TheRedemptionRain The German tanks, guns etc were not capable of handling the Ruski's Winter they had all the supplies, the fact was their whole invasion was stopped to a halt in Stalingrad. The momentum shifted and the Ruki's went ape shit and fucked the Germans. BTW the U.K would push the U.S UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE to go to war.
barod1 6 months ago
@barod1 US wanted no part of the war, unless they were threaten to go to war, if US was so blood thirsty for the Axis they would have join in 1939, but no. Your right about Germans losings momentum in Stalingrad, that was the turning point, but also take in mind Germans are using supply and getting no ware, also think of the cold harsh freezing weather, Russia is like hostile land for invaders, even Napoleon could not conquer the motherland
TheRedemptionRain 6 months ago
@TheRedemptionRain The mistake the Germans made was they didn't account for the winter. Thus if they had researched technologies and developed weapons for winter they would have a fighting chance. But we have to account that Russia's feirce comeback from Hitler's invasion turned the tide of the whole war. The Western front was getting no where. It was the Eastern front of the Russians advance and the bombings of the Allied made for a dual threat. But the Russians were the made force.
barod1 6 months ago
@barod1 I don't understand what is "winter technology," what do you mean? If you are talking about the fact that Germany fail to prepare for the winter than I understand, and the Allies from the west were getting some where but just not as fast as they wanted thanks to those tall hedgerows, and thanks for proving my point that EVERYONE play a part in the war, you claim that the Allies did good bombing raid on factories, cities, and etc. and Russian made good advancement in to the fatherland
TheRedemptionRain 6 months ago
@TheRedemptionRain By Winter Technology im referring to the guns and stuff. For example, the Russian PPSH is perfect for the cold winter because the ammunition and mechanical parts dont frost over long periods in the cold, however the Nazi MP30 did and it failed to fire after a while, the tanks did not have proper heating so the crew froze to death if their tracks stopped moving. But the point im trying to make is that the Russians were more advanced and their objectives were executed better.
barod1 6 months ago
@barod1 OK now I understand, basically Germans fail to prepare for the winter because their weapons weren't made for the harsh Russian winter, but my point still stands that EVERYONE played a part for the Allie's victory
TheRedemptionRain 6 months ago
@tvain86 your forgetting ol canada
cocksout1 6 months ago 3
@cocksout1 The worst international crime the Canadians have ever committed is Celine Dion and most of us can forgive that. :)
CompactJam 1 day ago
@CompactJam
i will never forgive canada for celine dion!
i think you and i are on the same page.
defiantwon33 1 day ago
@defiantwon33 Perhaps Celine Dione was a cruel and extreme example.
CompactJam 1 day ago
@CompactJam
however, the tao te ching predates the analects, therefore confucianism is taoist in nature, and not vice versa. i understand emersonian, and think that applying it as a negative would need to encompass all, for all cultures are laden with such expressions. "like me..."? think again; i wasn't attacking something i was unfamiliar with, i was attacking your prejiduce opinion, which i'm very much familiar with. i've been an expat for 13 years.
defiantwon33 1 day ago
@defiantwon33 Of course Confucius comes later. The point of him is that he abbreviates largely taoist notions that were immensely complex to grasp and thus unavailable to the masses. Emerson employs similar methods in the US. 'to make an omelette you have to scramble eggs etc' However in isolation these kinds of philosophies are crass and inane and are often used to exclude cognitive skills. - Prejudiced? What have I prejudged about America? You think I have never been to the home of the brave?
CompactJam 1 day ago
@CompactJam
"However many Americans believe their country is better than all others and that they should be more like America." i completely agree with you on this point, and find it to be a disagreeable quality. i feel that way about extreme nationalism in general -- signs that a government has done a very nice job in sedating and deceiving its people, BUT, again, this is NOT a quality solely indigenous to america. surely you know this.
defiantwon33 1 day ago
@tvain86 Actually, they meant they won in Normandy.
39unknown93 5 months ago
@tvain86 Also notice how the Americans waited till the war was almost over to join in? "QUICK! KICK EM WHILE THEY ARE DOWN THEN CLAIM WE WON THE ENTIRE THING!!!" That sadly seems to be the attitude of most Americans
Urchino1337 5 months ago
@Urchino1337 Listen, the Americans didn't attack France until 1944 because they were attacked in 1941 and to go straight into the war in Europe after a surprise attack with little training would have been suicide. Also, the Americans were helping the British in North Africa as early as 1942. As Tvain86 said, all of the allies were equally responsible in the victory in Europe. Finally, don't say the US wasn't needed when they basically won the war in the Pacific by themselves
tfinger071 5 months ago
@tfinger071 True, true but they still had help in the Pacific, maybe not at sea but on land though
ZombieRedeemer 3 months ago
@tvain86 The same can be said about Britain and Russia. If America didn't help them they would have been crushed too.
TheUprisingNinja 5 months ago
@tvain86 pah, america wasnt THAT weak at that time, remember that it was still the strongest country in the world both before and after WW2 so it couldve taken on all 3 axis even without an eastern front
rotwfighter 5 months ago
@tvain86 way to leave out Canada remember they were fighting in WW2 way before America came in
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@tvain86 history channel is an american channel, basically more american propaganda, US troops and generals couldnt have done shit without intelligence from occupied europe. plus the russians were taking a big share of the Nazi army
DKIBMS 3 months ago
@DKIBMS what you say is true , but there isn't one country without propoganda ;) just saying
FuNkYwHiTeWiDoW 2 months ago
@FuNkYwHiTeWiDoW true, its a powerfull tool to keep your own people on your side.
DKIBMS 2 months ago
asian guy is funny lol
RizzoAstronama 1 year ago
@Weissman33 its not the same, the american's as they were riding to normady knew what was about to happen and were prepared mentally, but during tet they thought they were going to win and failed completely.
majorfearr 1 year ago 10
@Weissman33 yes they were routed but they still fought hard cuz they were on death ground the plp in the alamo were on death ground n lost so did the 300 spartans.Remember our policy at that time was to kill as many as possible we did'nt have counter-insurgency then so american soldiers did there jobs.
MrChowbaby69 1 year ago
@Weissman33 remember during tet the viet cong force lost communication with each other.thats when they lost a clear path to victory.they became confused n suffered for it.
MrChowbaby69 1 year ago
What alot of shit D day was Montgomery's plan. Ike sat on his arse after the invadion. Only good USA general was Patten. History chanel again and again lies in the true history of World War two.
Bristow42 1 year ago
The ego of US pisses me off !!!!
STOP viewing world from a view of Berlin wall ok ?
it was polish spy that tricked germans about Cale .
We also broke enigma code , were first to stand and fight against the nazis , were legitmet (we had deal with france and england ) alliance . We suported you tru whole WWII and you sold us off to stalin for peace treaty .
sexyxrs 1 year ago
@sexyxrs Thats the God Blessed USA.
As im a Finn, you're my brother.
If you want to see a real Sun Tzu tactic use, look at the Winter-war between Finns and Russians. Marshal Mannerheim was a great leader.
SpedeCO2 1 year ago
@SpedeCO2 yea i kno abit of it thu i dont know anything about Marshal Mannerheim
sexyxrs 1 year ago
@SpedeCO2 ...mannerheim=nazi and war criminal....oppressor of finish working class
jethro035181 1 year ago
@jethro035181 Did you just said.. a war criminal? Russians invaded Finland, and you call us Nazis becouse we fought against them? Have you ever heard about Ribbentrop-Molotov contract?
Shoot yourself and make us both happy.
SpedeCO2 1 year ago
@SpedeCO2 ...hitler personally visited mannerheim on his 75th birthday, mannerheim was offered command of all german forces in finland, mannerheim was continually afraid of prosecution by the allied control commission for crimes against peace which was unfortunately curtailed by stalin...finnish forces fought with german equipment and uniforms with most of the insignia unchanged........collaboration ??? smells like it......try reading some neutral sources
jethro035181 1 year ago
@jethro035181 Failure idiot.
Im speaking about "Talvisota" in 1939, not about the "Jatkosota."
There were no equipments at all. Finns had to invent themselves.
One famous piece of Finnish thinking is called "Molotovs cocktail" who named after Molotov-Ribbentrop deal that "justified" Finland to Russia.
After Finns realized that there were NO help or symphathy from Allies, they asked help from Nazis.
Please dont fail so hard next time, ok?
SpedeCO2 1 year ago
@SpedeCO2 ..yes yes winter war..i think you are a lad that has been deluded by the sanitized finnish version of history..no one wants to see themselves as another quisling, petain or szalazi, but the fact remains finland was a client state of germany and then became a client of moscow. my problem is with mannerheim who was a nazi before hitler appeared..he supported the White Russian army and supported the suppression of finnish socialism
jethro035181 1 year ago
@sexyxrs
I agree. God bless the Poles!
zedwid3000 1 year ago
@zedwid3000 ...poles are the remedial reading class of europe...polish mathematician=oxymoron
jethro035181 1 year ago
@jethro035181,
Really? If it took a "remedial" Polish Mathematician to break a code which confounded the "brightest" minds of all the Western European countries, then it means that Western Europeans and Americans are retards compared to the Poles. Thank you for proving my statement with your oxy-moronic ( and I stress moronic) comments. For the record, I'm not even Polish. I'm Black.
zedwid3000 1 year ago
@zedwid3000 ..talk to me about poland after you've visited....what is the name of this supposed mathematician and was he also black?
jethro035181 1 year ago
@jethro035181 History chanel American crap, hollywood version. Total agreement with you. More lies to feed the sheep.
Bristow42 1 year ago
@defiantwon33
A *certain* prediction is impossible because you would obviously have to be able to see the future to achieve that, but he was talking about highest probable outcome based on stategical tactics.
xxSilverPhinxx 1 year ago
im from coventry glad im born 60 something years later
jaxkizzy 1 year ago
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sushanalone 1 year ago
I am amazed at how some of you can watch the same video I am....yet not understand anything they are talking about........
the Tet attack was brilliant, and well planned but it took months to get the troops and weapons in the proper locations. there were no re-inforcements coming, and the aid from civilians ended when they started killings innocent people. Although us forces were surprised, that only lasts so long. eventually they would re-group, get re-enforcements and counter attack.
bigrob981 1 year ago
totally helps my starcraft strats :]
whatabeast94 1 year ago
@Weissman33 I was just talking about the tet offensive, it showed in the video that the VC lost the support of the people because they started killing civiliians.
OutcastedOutlaw 1 year ago
@Weissman33 the difference was the VC was fragmented and had no communication with each other and no moral support of the community, whereas the Allies did have communication and the moral support of the people.
one was confused, the other was fearless.
OutcastedOutlaw 1 year ago
Speaking about predictions: Sun Tzu > Nostra-dumbass
FearAcademy 1 year ago
Sun Tzu > Nostra-dumbass
FearAcademy 1 year ago
every time the narrator says that "the art of war predicted the victory of the allied forces in WW2. " i fucking cringe. there was no goddamn prediction.
defiantwon33 1 year ago 2
wow, inflatable tanks!!!!!! <3 <3 <3
im only 15 so i don't know wat is going on in the vid lol..
jellyjigglerman 1 year ago
D-day was won by surprise attacking unprepared Germans and overwhelming them , Germans were outnumbered and under supplied compared to Allies so its not surprising that americans managed to brake though lines . WTF are they talking about, Nazis had 20% of ally economic output , there was no way in hell they could have won fighting over large territory .
sewagedweller 1 year ago
this show is mundane imo, much more can be gained by studying something that wasnt created to make money
MrOldnhorny 1 year ago
I WANT ONE OF THOSE INFLATABLE TANKS!!!
DeathlyDavid 1 year ago 3
@Weissman33 This is because the u.S. has superior firepower in Vietnam when Tet happened and in Normandy they had more numbers which means for men put on death ground willing to do what it takes to win
1Historygenius 1 year ago
@Weissman33 true but the vietcong did choose the battlefield and the americans were catched off surprise and also the vietcong was just awaiting reinforcements but it was true after they were isolated Viet Cong became isolated
Kr4zyAc3 1 year ago
@Weissman33 you mean the vietcong on death ground or the Americans on death ground?
Kr4zyAc3 1 year ago
oh so the beaches were a death ground? since the American soldiers deployed have no way to retreat but to the sea, so the troops are motivated to push and push even though they faced heavy fire.
magicstorm1 1 year ago
President Eisenhower was awesome. He had great balls and warned of the Military industrial complex who use American and British lives for profit.
watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY
NicosMind 1 year ago
@Weissman33 Then what happen if your opponent anticipate your military force accurately? And what happen if your enemy able to deny your military force effectively?
War cost money, human resources and dignity. Roman Empire fell may be due to one thing, they fought one war too many. And it drained their resources.
ltmikepowell 1 year ago
Me and Sun Tzu would've gotten along well.
There is not a single principle mentioned so far that I do not emphasize.
pwnrzero 1 year ago
Kudos to Churchil.
NiqueJB 1 year ago
"best defense is offense."
ericown 1 year ago
Actualy America used tank sound effects in Iraq war.
goodluckpeace44 1 year ago
4:02 good idea..Very clever
but this still cannot say westen armies used chess. This is to critizise India and show that Chinese game is more superior. Western armies must use chess to win the ww2 because ww2 is like a chess game you have almost perfect symmetry...not like the chinese game. Most western armies followed roman ways of fighting like outnumbering the enemy instead of using ambush and using the environment except at the naval battles. but I am not a history specialist ofcource
goodluckpeace44 1 year ago
those Americans did a good job at ww2 because their culture was rich with the smell of new technology and all, but at the vietnam war the culture was more like a pop culture and the smell of new age technology had vanished.
goodluckpeace44 1 year ago
"In war, truth is so precious it must be protected by a bodyguard of lies" - Sir Winston S. Churchill. Neither fortitude North nor South was Ike's idea. It was a hard won lesson from the Dieppe raid that Overlord would need a bodyguard of lies. This programme glosses over a lot of pure dumb luck and makes it out to be planned, but the overall lesson isn't bad. Don't get emotional in battle, use deception, be well informed, listen to advice, Market Garden wouldn't have happened if we had
xKCBEx 1 year ago
proud to be a persian, a asian
diznab900 1 year ago
western people are smart people, but they are more like materialistic. They would use 1000 tanks and not use the terrain. but now they have special forces to even fight on special geographies
goodluckpeace44 1 year ago
I think that Hannibal making his way into Italy would be a better example for the fight for survival aspect that Sun Tzu is teaching.
ColonelMarksman 2 years ago 21
@ColonelMarksman AMERICAN show
AMERICAN wars
Pikazilla 1 year ago