Shinhan 2010 Winners League Jaedong vs Stork 2010-02-20 @

[akmv3]

oooo this one starts right away

[dnrwls93]

37:22 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 성큰 뽑아서 싸우고싶을거래 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ



[bludika]

damn, jaedong seemed like he was under immense pressure, i never thought you can sweat like that playing starcraft

[Mrbeanstalk4]

He is sweating from the intensity of the game.

[solarlight10]

yea this is def one of the more epic games ive ever seen

[emetomania]

fuck stork....cannon spamming like a noob....respect Jaedong,

[nestcanz]

I always wonder where do they take so much extra minereals and vespene for those units, lol.

[Igorsov]

A nice way to lose weight :)

[ParkNohJun]

High Templar cost 50:150, isn't it?

[terryken18]

@ParkNohJun Thanks for correcting me. But you know what i meant.

[terryken18]

Partly the reason why stork wins is because both of them have alot of gas, but little minerals. And high templar cost 50minerals 250gas, which gives stork an advantage. Thats why, towards the end, you only see high templar and archons... Cause both ran out of minerals...

[bigmamakingful]

@terryken18 lol.. then all the protoss has to beat zergs. that doens't makes senses

[terryken18]

@bigmamakingful Can you play with Jaedong and last 30mins???? If you can last 30mins with him, then protoss is likely to win because of the gas advantage. When you have little minerals and unlimited gas, because even when gas is depleted, you can still mine them for 2 gas. Protoss has the edge.

[dafuzziscomin]

dat psi storm

[dafuzziscomin]

dat psi storm

[BreakTheIce222]

does he have a fever? he's sweating so much!!!

[jinhk93]

@BreakTheIce222 I'm pretty sure it's just because he tried really hard and gave it his all. You tend to sweat in those circumstances.

[DragonOld]

jajajajaja die bitch

[ReidanatorGaming]

Did Stork win the complete set or was the pro league extended series?

[CaptainCrunchOwns]

38:47 Commentator: "Two thumbs up!"

One of the best games I've ever seen.

[madafakkaa]

OU my god what a game ..... sick

[zxc9804103]

The game is the most exciting that I've ever seen! (for Zerg VS P)

Good game!!

Two are excellent players!!

[zxc9804103]

The game is the most exciting that I've ever seen! (for Zerg VS P)

Good game!!

[josefsson87]

I love Lee Jae Dong, such intensity.

[DwwwD]

Jaedong shit just look at him. Best progamer ever. He had this game when he destroyed StorK's entire army and had killed the gateways just before. If he would've attacked the other bases instead of the one with the narrow entreance then StorK would've been on that 1 base with no space to make more buildings. Still GG!!!

[jamaiicaaan]

38:34 the worst moment of his sc life...series was tied 3-3 and he feels like he let his team down. JAEDONG <3

[SardonicFox1994]

noob gamer sc2 is better. look at all the bw pros that cant even stick it out in sc2 cos its a better game

[TheMrsir91]

@SardonicFox1994 sc1 is ALOT harder than sc2 so shut it. Brood war pros dont make it in sc2 becose they are not used to the strategies in sc2. Sc2 is alot more mind game and bullshit that honestly doesnt belong in esport. sc1>sc2 but sc2 is still the best bet cus sc1 is too old now

[SardonicFox1994]

@TheMrsir91 ya ok nooberi bet u arent even C+ on icea fanboy sc2 is better

[shadowsong12]

@SardonicFox1994 suck my cock

[ZachFr33man]

@SardonicFox1994 you mean all the failed sc1 pros who switched over cause they sucked dick at sc1?

[ZaaaaaM7]

@SardonicFox1994 bw pros? boxer and july who's peaks are soo long ago? Or MC/nestea who were B-teamers in bw? lol

Jaedong switches to sc2 today, in 2-3 months he becomes the first real sc2 bonjwa, unless flash would switch also x))

[gulash86]

@ZaaaaaM7 ofc, but why should jaedong bother with that noob game called sc2. Id rather watch him rape in sc1 and play like a beast. Macro in sc2 is compared to sc1 non existent.

[BBarcangel1]

incredible game pressure could be seen in God as sweat that sweat would the game so difficult for 2, but play like the big q is excellent without any more words I was impressed.

[Drcn011]

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE BEST GAME I'VE EVER SEEN !!!

Both played just incredibly!!

[SvennemanZZZ]

the never ending swarm feel, why don't I get this with sc2, its a deathball its unstoppable ur dead

[FranciscoTempus]

BEST GAME I VE EVER SEEN!

[FallenSword7X]

koreans should be nerfed...

they're to good

[sepi1994]

i want to sweat for playing sc1 too

[whydoesthismatter]

26:42 straight out of a horror movie

[dizaztohr]

most epic ZvP ever imho.

[TheQuestionK]

This is great !!

I saw this game before i came to USA.

It was my last game that i saw in Korea. So that reminds me this game.

[johnjayo12]

q tal juego es un buen juego termino solo x mineral q hubiera pasado si hubiera tenido mineral q seria?

[ZanNNNNG]

BW forever

[simon7570]

why so many sc bw vs sc2 comments?? plz -_-

[divine0g0d]

@Hammerzeiterr u sux faggot

[divine0g0d]

epic game is epic 

[YRUSL]

sweaty game:) gr8 players

[Healingproof]

Good players but they don't even compare to today's sc2 pros^^ no offence.

[DynamesPermanence]

@Healingproof Wait a minute, most of the Sc2 pros are all from bw and the top few sc2 progamers failed at BW.

[Healingproof]

@DynamesPermanence ...because they're diffrent games? Look at nada, boxer, julyzerg. They're all doing 'meh' at sc2. Why? SC2 is harder. Jus' sayin'. ^^

[DynamesPermanence]

@Healingproof Ehhh, they are doing meh. when they switched over to Sc2 they weren't doing anything. Meh > Nothing.

[DynamesPermanence]

When I say nothing, their teams stopped playing them because they were auto lose.

[Healingproof]

@DynamesPermanence I don't get how that's related. The players dominating sc2 weren't dominating in sc1. Does that make sc1 players better? The players dominating sc1 arent dominating sc2 either lol. Your logic is so hypocritical, not quite sure if you realize it ^^

[vincentwongxt]

@Healingproof ya noob, why not u go iccup and get c rank 1st before u talk likeu noe bw a LOT. I bet u cant even past through D rank.

[Healingproof]

@vincentwongxt bw is a shitty game with gameboy graphics :p how about u win the GSL before u talk about sc2 hm?;)

[dignitasNaturaL]

@Healingproof I'm playing sc2 now since it came out and I can honestly say BW was better back then...

[vincentwongxt]

@vincentwongxt can someone get rid of this ignorant fag? he noes nothing and it tickles me annoyingly

[dignitasNaturaL]

@Healingproof Sc2 is easier thats why there are different pro's. BW was hard and that is why there were barely any "new" pro's. BW there were no rally points to minerals...and you had to set you army to hotkeys 1-4 because you can only have 12 units in a hotkey...

[Healingproof]

@dignitasNaturaL That doesnt make it harder, that just means thers a faaar worse UI and its just a brainless apm-fest. sc2 is actually interesting and skill requiring. A place where sc1 heroes like nada, july and boxer can't do well even tho they did well in sc1 ;)

[SvennemanZZZ]

@Healingproof because a attack and controlling a death ball and a attacking is what we call skilled in sc2, what a microfest...! + automatic drones going to minerals, the ui may be worse but it makes up for the apm actually beeing nessecary and it determines noobs from pro's, theres not much that determines a pro from a average player in sc2 these days because everything has been made so easy in sc2, I guess the only thing that still requires is multitasked drops, but next to that nothing.

[Healingproof]

@SvennemanZZZ Conclusion: sc1: the higher apm, the better you're considered. sc2: the more talented and smarter you are, the better you're considered. idk, everyone i know thinks sc2 is more skilled :p but idk ;)

[Mcyoussef]

@Healingproof ROFL healing proff get out of here sc2 hero bw noting xD

[SvennemanZZZ]

@Healingproof no, you have to have bigger multitasking + decision making, pro's like bisu are known for winning because of great decision making. I'm guessing you're a protoss is you think like this because they are the race that require decision making and micro the most of all... well duh they think so cus they are probably playing sc2 now.

[SvennemanZZZ]

@Healingproof btw you still needed better micro since you could only control few groups so u had to put em to hotkeys, so even that you need better micro for, honestly man, everyone can click right click a click left etc, its not that u call skill at all.

[Healingproof]

@SvennemanZZZ I dont wanna sound rude or anything but... micro is faaar harder in sc2 :p You have to split your units perfectly vs splash damage, there's flanking, positioning, abilities, kiting and far more multi tasking in form of drops etc. sc2 IS harder than sc1 ;) It's not my opinion, it's a face ^^

[Mcyoussef]

@Healingproof its a face? Your the biggest troll ever afther athene get out.

[Healingproof]

@Mcyoussef fact*. And what does "afther" mean?

[Mcyoussef]

@Healingproof just get out troll. Ur so clueless about how difficult BW is...

[Healingproof]

@Mcyoussef you seem annoyed and keep insulting me calling me a troll... calm down? i never played bw but i know its easy, everyone that played it know sais its easy. Not saying its "SUPER EASY" but im just saying, sc2 is far harder. You're just too clueless to realize ;p

[Mcyoussef]

@Healingproof Because you are the biggest troll ^^. Everybody knows you as a huge troll... SC2 harder? I played both and i can tell that sc2 is like 100x easier then BW. And im higher then you so youve no right to talk about. You just sound so stuppid saying SC2 is harder and takes more micro? Come at me bro

[Healingproof]

@Mcyoussef "And im higher than you so youve no right to talk about" No, you're not. You're terrible. check up sc2ranks Healíngproof (remember the í), I'm 1827 master on EU (was 1900 but lose streak), I'm qualifying for Grand Master season3. You're a nobody who thinks spamming apm is skills. Sc1 isn't skills, sc2 is. You're the troll here buddy ;)

[Mcyoussef]

@Healingproof i know who you are trust me lol... And im higher then you so don't think ur good ^^. Just get out of these sc1 vids if you think its easy hehe

[Healingproof]

@Mcyoussef oh its provoke :D get 2k then talk, nerd ;)

[youziness]

@Healingproof come on. In sc2 americans want to remove the hard work factor and turn it into 100% strategy wise because asians are dominating sc1. You have hard-to-attain levels of macro and micro to master in sc1 that requires rigorous practice. The macro is actually not present in sc2's longer battles similar to wc3.

[Healingproof]

@youziness nope. ur wrong. sc2 is far harder. sc1 is hard too but its just not on the same level. sc1: Whoever has done the most brainless practice wins. sc2: the most talented smart creative fast thinking gamer wins.

[youziness]

@Healingproof apm fest? brainless lol? I have 400 apm and i can't come close to these guys. Stork has 250 apm. Both macro/micro are less intensive in sc2, so strategy and builds are only way. This is why many random players can knock off the top player every time. sc2 pros cannot become bw pro, but its easily possible the other way round.

[Healingproof]

@youziness What are you talking about. sc1 came before sc2. Nobody started with sc2 and switched over to sc1, dumbass xD You are painfully dumb lol ;D. Now, let's look at the sc1 bonjwas that switched over to sc2 instead. Boxer? Never won anything. Nada? Never won anything. Julyzerg? Never won anything. sc2 is FAR harder than sc1. I think you know it but you argue just for the sake of arguing or something :d

[youziness]

@Healingproof yeah so does that mean current top players that won something in sc2 can play sc1 pro level? Nobody agrees with u, looks like u are arguing for the sake of argue. At least the old sc1 players could play sc2 and make it to pro level. Those players u mentioned are old too, lol. The only thing keeps sc2 alive is blizzard's marketing and short term money pumped in by sponsers. They will be gone in few yrs.

[Healingproof]

@youziness What are you talking about lol. Nobody is going from sc2 to sc1. Let's do it this way instead;) Name one sc2 player who tried to get pro at sc1 and failed? :D that's right. Zero. You just got so owned hard bro. Tons of sc2 bonjwas like boxer nada julyzerg has tried sc2 but failed miserably, none of them has won a single tournament yet. But not a single sc2 player who went sc1 has failed yet. Dang ;) hehe

[youziness]

@Healingproof 0? Who is Idra? He failed miserably in sc1 and won some tournaments in sc2. Obviously sc1 requires more aspects to succeed, your argument is lame and running away from reality :) sc2 came out later. Boxer nada july have not failed yet :) They earn money. Try to talk about technical aspects rather than diverting the contents of your argument to such as "sc2 is later than sc1" lol 14yo kid argument.

[youziness]

@Healingproof to add on: all the top ranked koreans on sc2 are flops in sc1, so they switch. If not they will be sc1 players.

[Healingproof]

@youziness and all sc1 pros became flops in sc2 ^^ what a coincidence lol. And to add to your ignorance: Alot of the sc2 pros are from wc1, not from sc1. So calling all sc2 pros flops in sc1 when some didnt even played it makes you look even more dumb than you did to begin with xd dang

[youziness]

@Healingproof MC, bomber flop in sc1. hahaha. I looked at the current top sc2 players and saw many familiar names like sen, brat_ok, idra, moon, mvp these are mediocre sc1 players who make easy switch cos they can't earn money from sc1. So tell me which game is harder? The current sc1 top with their skill set easily play sc2 at same level but sc1 pays them much more right now. LOL most sc2 pros from wc1 are u serious? Utter Rubbish.

[peterpaul0803]

@youziness moon is a wc3 player dude... he is chinese check up his stats.

[youziness]

@peterpaul0803 yeah i know. He switch from wc3 to sc1 playing for b team before sc2. Because wc3 scene died.

[peterpaul0803]

@youziness yeah because wc3 has no manstream unlike sc1 and sc2.. wc3 is more likely a pass times game =))

[era1337]

@youziness he never played for the B Team he was always a Wc3 plaeyr for WMF. he played versus some B Teamers in freetime and won like 20%.

[peterpaul0803]

@Healingproof not all of them dude.. WhiteRa is a BW player, IdrA is a BW player, Bomber is a BW player, JulyZerg is BW player, LiquidJinro is frozen arbiter in BW, LiquidNazgul plays BW, Boxer_Slayer rocks BW

[Undeadtaro]

@Healingproof

can we stop feeding this retarded troll? healingproof is a retard and he knows it. He has no facts, just pulling shit out of his ass. Especially when sc2 pros like idra already admitted saying bw is a more fun and more challenging game. The reason why boxer nada and july arent owning in sc2 like they did in bw was because when they switched they were bottom tier ass in bw, aka code B in sc2 terms. Go learn your history before you start spewing out retardation.

[Healingproof]

@Undeadtaro Yeah im sorry. Nada and Boxer and July were shitty broodwar players. I mean. It's not like Nada and Boxer was 2 of the very few players who achieved Bonjwa-Status. And it's not like July won the golden mouse. Just deal with it. Sc2 is harder. Sc1 is just a brainless spam fest ;) higher apm> higher wins ;) lame. :D

[shadowsong12]

@Healingproof you fucking shit

[holymonk293]

@Healingproof

You're comparing the pros from 2 different games, lol.

[one4aJIb]

@Healingproof lol if sc2 is harded then why mvp sucked at bw?

[Healingproof]

@one4aJIb lol if bw is harder then why boxer/julyzerg/nada sucks at sc2?

[era1337]

@Healingproof they are past their prime? they didndt even play much the last years in broodwar Oo

[Healingproof]

@era1337 Your logic still doesn't make sense. If the very high end pros hasn't done anything accomplished in sc2, doesn't that mean sc2 is harder? :O

[era1337]

@Healingproof they werent high level pros when they switched over?

[Healingproof]

@era1337 flash hasn't done anything in sc2. Therefor sc2 is harder. (yeah, I'm using your logic)

[era1337]

@Healingproof nah you are using something out of your ass.

Boxer nada etc did something in BW. but lately they couldnt do anything in BW.

dont be sad cause your lovely game will always be #2.

[Healingproof]

@era1337 Calm down, you're just retarded. It's like me saying "hey u black guy. You suck at icehockey but you're good at basket. By era1337's logic, that for some reason means that hockey is harder". You do realize how flawed and dumb your logic is, right? sc1 and sc2 is 2 different games. People are good at different things. Flash hasn't succeeded in sc2 yet, so that makes it harder in your opinion?;) Not sure if trolling or really really dumb.

[era1337]

@Healingproof tell me 2 calm down and then call me retarded?

and with ur logic it would be like "he is good at counterstrik but sucks at BW so BW is harder".

but keep talking about a guy that never touched teh game :)

but since u are so angry its pointless. and no matter what u say u use the same flamebait/bad argument over and over again. so hf playing a game made for baddies :)

not gonna talk 2 u anymore :)

[Healingproof]

@era1337 except ur the one saying sc1 is harder, not the other way around xd. Whenever I said sc2 was harder, I was only using your logic lol. But let go of your caps lock key and calm down and realize how dumb you are ;)

[vuk911]

@Healingproof You like SC2? Why you come here to say that BW is "spam fest" and "higher apm->win" ??? (which is btw ABSOLUTELY not true,since by.Hero had like 450 apm,and right now Hydra has the most,and trust me those 2 are not the best players). BW is widely accepted as the hardest RTS ever. You think it`s not like that? Fine! Just don`t troll on one of the best games of Brood War ever played. And P.S. Boxer,Nada,July were like 6 years past their prime,and too old to play video games.

[arkeraymor]

5 twats from sc2 dont like this epic game

[Snigo0oL]

yea epic match!! 2 best sc players ever, in my opinion

[Kristbbs]

Epic Match

[MWcrazyhorse]

38:34 hehe Jaedong is all :"the fuck are there no more minerals... I don't have minerals, this cannot be happening I am the macro god, why are there no more minerals? "

[xNapalmFlamex]

the reason starcraft 2 doesn't live up to its name yet is because the metagame still encourages turtling.

[Jonas223XC]

Dude, I don't understand how stork is so calm. Jaedong is shitting bricks at like 25 min in and stork is just sitting there being stork. I don't get it

[con1181]

와... 진짜 엄청 아까운 경기네요.. 서로 밀고당기기가 정말 끝내줬는데..

이길거같다가 질거같다하다가....... 아 아까워요 ㅠㅠ

sososososososoclose!!

these are the real games that can be known as gg

[2CSST2]

wowwww, the trap with the lurkers, forseeing exactly where Stork would go, that was insane!

[xiangnan]

Total Respect...What a game!

[CrishJonathan]

STORK THE BEST PROTOSS EVER!

JAEDONG THE BEST ZERG EVER!

Nothing else matters!

[superjew1000]

Love ya jaedong because of you ive come to realize somthing important zerg can win with a bit of oppertunistic feeding!

[voltototo]

THIS IS AN ILLUSION ! JAEDONG NEVER LOSES !

[TrentTheNun]

Sc2 replays are so much more boring to watch than this. In SC2 the pros just turtle, do minimal harass and max out their army.  Talk about a snooze fest. SC1 way way way way more entertaining to watch and play.

[DusTtoo]

@TrentTheNun you don't even play it and you want to comment about it? lol

[TrentTheNun]

@DusTtoo Where did I say that I don't play it? lol!!!!!

[CloutDraconis]

Hopefully, in a few years, with the expansions, SC2 will feel just as epic as SC1 was and still is.

[DragonOld]

Jamas me dejara de gustar ver a jae tan sumiso y derrotado.

[MrNoobslayer123]

but jaedong never loses :O

[shumped]

38:35 faaaacepaaaaaalm

[llamazunited]

if only i was this good:(

[alexlaorga]

10:12 lorco lorco lorco lorco lorcooooooooo

[jeffyee]

sc2 is way better than this shitty game

[Potts132]

@jeffyee Wtf is wrong with you? Brood War is THE peak of RTS. SC2 is a pretty good game but nothing can compare to Brood War

[MrNoobslayer123]

@jeffyee are you legit?

[CozmikMonkey]

Jaedong's eyes in the beginning... I think my soul is on fire.

[brettka]

Jaedong lost but wow I admire his passion! pause at 38:36

[Gamer66Pro]

35:42 epic face

[Gamer66Pro]

realy not words just 1

EPIC

[B3tterThanU]

fckin gzz Stork >.<

[jeewoo12]

jaedong should have took 12 o'clock straight after he took over it

[saladin92]

one of the main reasons why sc2 is no match to sc in terms of strategy and balance is because Bill Roper who was the head programmer for sc left Blizzard North a loooooooong time ago

[enitel]

, St2 has failed, this is the real thing

[BiologyLabOne]

damn so close!

[UnKyIsBack]

EPIC

[eskorbutoxd]

protoss asta la muerte jejejejje

every zerg will die now

[inSanity753]

Argh, if Jaedong hadn't lost as much to this 12 o clock expansion, he could have won this game ... damn

[dafunker00]

Jaedong is pouring! oh wow you can really feel the tension

[Kerlengo]

Superb play, Stork is excellent!

[NiceJesus]

Awesome GAme! :D

[KTFlaSh96]

SONG BYUNG GOO!!

[Shrewmy]

COMPARE 10 YEAR OLD GAME TO ONE BARELY SIX MONTHS OLD.

CALL IT SHITTY BECAUSE IT'S COOL TO HATE ON IT.

HUUUR.

[davothebum2201]

@Shrewmy sc2 sucks balls, not because its cool to hate on it, but because it sucks ballzzzzzz

[JedBonjwa]

stork was awesome in this game..

[SInlesssc]

dont bring that shitty sc2 game here this game is way to epic to be compared

[guy2j]

@SInlesssc cry more bitch

[NachiMeNachiMe]

Y YOU SO SWEATY JAEDONG

[UncensoredRhett]

3-4 brood lrods would have locked down that 12 o'clock expansion faster than a ground push. what was he thinking?

[mistahjion]

@UncensoredRhett you mean gaurdians?...

[xNapalmFlamex]

@UncensoredRhett Guardians would have helped that game, but corsairs rip through air units. Then again scourge rip through those. But what good are scourge against a huge ground army? Classic starcraft matchups you don't see in its sequel. Ah well, heart of the swarm brings season 3 and hopefully something interesting. Until then, starcraft 2 is only good for UMS.

[Darkevilxe]

jaedong so sad :*(

[xunap]

I remember how Savior owned Stork every single time they played... now Stork has pretty nice PvZ

[metal592]

jaedong webon por webadas pierdes mierda! q te costaba apoderarte de esa base gil

[nickdoof]

stork never looks like he's moving when the cameras on him lol

[fezman13]

Psi Storm. Best 200 minerals and 200 gas Stork ever spent.

Also loved how they went from Jaedong sweating like crazy to Stork walking out in a thermal vest.

[EnsignN7]

Must be like 90 degrees inside Jaedong's booth. Guy was sweating by the gallons.

[jibaroo]

those storms made all the difference.