How to make Potassium Chlorate Part One

[opaldragonmb]

can i use stainlesssteel anode and cathode

[some18yo]

damn 240p

[Lynx3106]

Making your own Potassium Chlorate is a veery bad idea. Especially with those amounts, you just use one unclean spatula or container, and you'll have to be lucky to lose but an arm.

[MrJonagikster]

The cathode is positive and the anode is negative, not the reverse.

[c0ldelement]

I would like to add as potassium chlorate is a strong oxidiser any and all contaminates makes it a bit hazardous to mess so its best to have clean strong product

[c0ldelement]

you realize that ur electrodes will break down and really really contaminate the final product?!??

[labchemo]

I HAVE Potassium perchlorate and others chemicals (In EU) labchemo@gmail.com

[fintronix1]

ja,norske :D

[guidocreusen]

how do you get the carbon from the batteries?

when i try it (with D-cells) the carbon either breaks or is stuck to the inside of the container

[funfacts360]

@guidocreusen you have to be delicate with it n pull away all metal n material before pulling it out

[guidocreusen]

@funfacts360 thanks, got 4 of them now =)

not a d-cell but a 6v block (with 4 big ones in it)

[TheFyroPyro]

can copper tube be used as my electrodes



[ErikDIY]

@TheFyroPyro NO, It will just corroded to make copper hydroxide.

[MrAirshot]

how much kclo3 you will get from 1 kg of salt ?

[ErikDIY]

@MrAirshot 1kg KcL ===>1.644 kg KcLO3

[macvegard]

kor du kjøpte den beholderen?

[ErikDIY]

@macvegard Kjøpte den på nille =D

Vet ikke om de seller dem enda, men du får ta en tur innom :)

[marcomovies97]

is it possible to take the inside of a pencil instead of a battery?

[ErikDIY]

@marcomovies97 yes, but the graphite in the pencils are smaller, therefore it will not last long in a the cell... but of course.... you may buy solid graphite pencils ;)

[marcomovies97]

@ErikDIY thanks

[TheButtonMash]

@marcomovies97 you could but the graphite degrades quickly better of with platinum anode

[guidocreusen]

@TheButtonMash platinum yes, wich is in fact two times as expensive as gold

[dbflat987654321]

can you use two metal bars for anodes

[ErikDIY]

@dbflat987654321 NO!... This is because they will react with the solution and produce oxides, instead of hydrochloride/chlorate....

For example, if you use iron rods you will then gen iron oxide, the same for all the other metals.

The only anodes you can use are, graphite/patina/MMO, and Lead dioxide...

The cheapest way is to use carbon/graphite electrodes, they are cheap and easy to get :D

[Nguli34689]

Sodium chlorate is a little more dangerous to handle than Potassium chlorate. One of the reasons for this is because NaClO3 is more hygroscopic. Chlorates and perchlorates were used to make Aluminum flash powder. Armstong's mix can detonate because of heat and from percussion as well. Ammonium perchlorate was used as rocket fuel and KClO3 is still used to make colored smoke. Great care should be taken when KClO3 and the presense of oxidizables (such as C,S,P,Al, Mg,Mn...etc). Great video.Thanks.

[ErikDIY]

@Nguli34689 I know... i have already made some mistakes whit Armstrong mix :(

[Nguli34689]

@ErikDIY Same here, my friend. Not to worry, we learn from our mistakes and sometimes share our errors with others so that they may avoid being disappointed or hurt... :)

I enjoy informative videos. Please keep them coming. I like!!!

[ErikDIY]

@Nguli34689 Yeah, but somethimes the mistakes will hurt you ;)

Thanks, I like posting informative videoes. so that people can learn, and know.

I'm working on a new video now... And many more to come ^_-

[ZnachiBeatBox95]

cathode is stainless steel,and what is anode...?

[ErikDIY]

@ZnachiBeatBox95 

[spotlightman1234]

ok i am really confused do i connect the carbon electrodes to the positive wire of my dc supply or the negative? i have it set up so that the carbon one is bubbling hydrogen

[pyroguy1030]

An easy way to get a lot of mmo electrodesis from an old chlorine generator cell for pools. I got 12 ruthenium oxide coated titanium electrodes.

[Nguli34689]

@pyroguy1030 Pyrotechnology is a time-honored science and tradition. I liked your comment and your screen name, BTW.

[pyroguy1030]

Nice tutorial! could I use 2 titanium electrodes or does my cathode have to be stainless steel?

[ErikDIY]

@pyroguy1030 You can use to Titanium electrodes, if they are covered whit MMO.

[gregorian04]

@ErikDIY

Whitch batteries did u use? (the big one)

Where can i buy it?

[ErikDIY]

@gregorian04 It's a lantern battery. (the big 6v) Just take it apart and you will fint 4 1.5v big carbon batteries.

You can buy it at electronic store.

[yahoorif]

any way , you have any idea on what to do with those Manganese dioxide? it cant be just thrown away.

[ErikDIY]

@yahoorif Hmm, haven't thought about that....

I just delivered to my local recycling place, they take chemical waste...

Look it up on google :)

[yahoorif]

@ErikDIY okay thanks

[Digadogup]

hey dude im trying this ive got the same container but bigger, 1 litter.

i need a power supply. been stupid by pluggin it stair to a point 1200v and its exploded 5 times :D. shat my selff alot.

[DjinnJuggler]

what is the reaction that creates chlorine gas? KCl+H2O===>KClO3+6H?

[babajan97]

to remove the electrode you could just use bigger pliers and pull the positive terminal out

[adriiPortillo]

Hmmm good cell, but how about not using the epoxy on the carbon rods ? since they erode, i belive you should rather make something that can be easily changed afterwards.

[IGpskillI]

but if i electrolyce losalt i will get NaOH, losalt is 66% KCl and 33% NaCl

[ErikDIY]

@IGpskillI

1. The Potassium will take the place of the sodium.

2. 2Cl+ 2NaOH=====> 2NaOCl + H2

3NaOCl +HEAT===> NaClO3+ 2 NaCl

NaClO3+ KCl===> KClO3+ NaCl

3. You will not get Sodium hydroxide from electrolyte a solution of sodium chloride, only sodium hypo chloride - the hypo chloride decompose at high temperature to chlorate at about 60c

[crankflip94]

So is it important the entire process is air-sealed, or is this just to protect from dangerous gases?

[ErikDIY]

@crankflip94 It's just to protect you from dangerorus gases. Do it outside, btw: My cell wasn't air- sealed, I had a hose from my cell so that the gases could reskape, you dont want to make your cell to a bomb.

Dangerous Chlorine gas is prodused!!!

[crankflip94]

@ErikDIY By air-sealed I meant controlled release of gasses, not completely air-tight. I'll probably do this outside

[ErikDIY]

@crankflip94 Sorry for misunderstanding.

I didn't bother, but you could make the gases go true a solution of sodium hydroxide

2Cl+ 2NaOH=====> 2NaOCl + H2

3NaOCl +HEAT===> NaClO3+ 2 NaCl

NaClO3+ KCl===> KClO3+ NaCl

Good luck whit making your cell! XD

[IGpskillI]

@ErikDIY should this work ? 2NaClO3+ 2K2CO3 -->2 KCLO3+Na2CO3

[ErikDIY]

@IGpskillI In theory it should, but you do get a lot of sodium carbonate, and that can be a problem. I would do this instead: NaClO3+ KCl / KNO3 - its makes the crystallization much easier. - you can buy Potassium chloride as LoSalt or any mineral salts that has a lot of potassium in it about 50%, you can do a crystallization to get almost pure potassium chloride

BTW: 2NaClO3+ K2CO3 -->2 KCLO3+Na2CO3

[dnl5649]

i tried this and it is very effective, thanks so so much for this vid

5 stars!!!

this method makes a lot of potassium chlorate!!! you have saved me lots of money

thanks

daniel

[ErikDIY]

you're welcome, glad that this video helped you XD

Yes, this method is quite effektive.

I'm a cheap baster myself, if you can make it, then do it!

Erik

[dnl5649]

@ErikDIY i like your accent, where are you from? so after you cook up the stuff in the jar with the electrodes you filtered out the stuff. is the stuff that was in the plastic jug thing?

i know how to make the stuff and i did, its filtering and purifying it that i dont quite understand in your vid. can you please put it into writing. like step one after electrolyzing the bla bla bla, pour it thru a filter save or discard the filtrate and keep the liquid for example.

[pyrocrazyUSA]

Can i use lead rods?

[ErikDIY]

@pyrocrazyUSA NO, but you can make lead dioxide electrodes from lead

[skybattle2]

Kor mangen volt eller amps trenger jeg og er det dødlig vis du får støt xD?

PS: bra film 5/5*

[ErikDIY]

@skybattle2

Det holder at du bruker en ATX (pc supply)

For at en ATX skal fungere må du ta den grønne og koble den til den svarte, da vil viften begynne.

Etter det kobler du den røde og den svarte etter det som sies i videoen.

Du trenger ca 5v for "chlorate"

Du får ikke støt eller dør av 5-12 volt. Du må ha en mye høyere spenning for at de skal skje. bare vær forskiktig rundt 230v ac (stikkontakten)

Hvis det er noe mer bare så er det bare å spørre :)

[pyrocrazyUSA]

this is carbon, but can i use griphite electrodes, like the ones from #2 pencils

[TheScienceTestTV]

carbon not graphite, graphite is shiny but carbon is dark.(both are the same materal).

[ErikDIY]

@TheScienceTestTV

Hi

Old news now XD

I know that graphite is carbon and clay ( if I can remember right)

There batteries is sink- carbon batteries, so I should have listened to it.

Graphite is also harder than carbon, the carbon electrode will just "etch" faster than a graphite electrode.

[TheScienceTestTV]

@ErikDIY graphite is a diffrent allitrope of carbon.

here are some of carbons allitropes:charcoal, graphite,diamond,carbonnanotub­es, etc

[TheScienceTestTV]

@ErikDIY graphite is a diffrent allitrope of carbon.

here are some of carbons allitropes:charcoal, graphite,diamond,carbonnanotub­es, etc.

clay is not carbons allitrope.

[TheScienceTestTV]

carbon not graphite, graphite is shiny but carbon is dark.(both are the same materal).

[nattsurfaren]

BTW if you use "Hot melt adhesive" you could glue the electrodes much faster and you don't have to bother with toxic fumes.

Do you check out nurdrage channel? I think he is going to make PbO2 electrodes which are very resistant to corrosion. You could make perchlorate from that.

[ErikDIY]

Halla naturfaen, fint navn XD

Jeg følger med på hva Nurdrage gjør. Grafitt er det billibste å bruke og det enkleste å få tak i ( du får kjøpt det på clasohlson for ca 50 kr).

Det som skjer når du bruker limpistol er at limet smeltet siden cellen har en gjennomsnitt tempratur på ca 65 grader. XD har gjort den feilen.

Tenker å lage PbO2 elektroder hvis jeg får tak i alt det jeg trenger...

[nattsurfaren]

Tackar för svar. Väntar med spänning på del 2. Själv funderar jag annars på att göra perklorat en dag. Funderar på att köpa platinaelektroder.

[ErikDIY]

Bare hyggelig :)

Platina er dyrt, men det gir det beste resultatet.

[nattsurfaren]

How did you do the second so fast? ;)

[ytmachx]

Outstanding work! I'll be looking for part two.