The is350 is fine. Lexus should be a smooth luxurious ride. Why spend $60k on a isf thats not really fast and rough ride. You can also supercharge a is350 for and still have an extra $15,000 without the gay tips. I pesonally hop in my evo when I want power.
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It's a performance car with a 400 horsepower v8 and your worried about an unforgiving ride? It's either stiff suspension to take corners well or soft suspension for ride quality. If you want better ride quality get a regular Lexus. The key word here is PERFORMANCE. Lexus made a separate category of cars for people who aren't "everyday drivers"
@arnoldt14 That's because edmunds are full of old heads. If I were in a market for something of this caliber, fuel economy and comfort would not be a concern. The new 2011 IS-F is even better I hear.
@4MATICbenz True enough. It's too bad that so many v8s are so heavy for how much power they make. if you gain 300lbs and 100 hp why not only gain 50lbs and use forced induction.
@decripple , That method you just stated are actually what a lot of performance divsions are starting to do. Downsizing the engine and adding turbos are a pretty good alternative considering they save weight for increased handling/braking as well as improved fuel efficiency.
But some people (namely myself) prefer the burbley, musclular tone of a big NA V8. "No replacement for displacement" haha
O-60 in 4.8s yeah right, motortrend has the Lexus IS-F do 0-60 in 4.3s and many other mag and web had the Lexus IS-F 0-60 hitting 4.1 to 4.2 and yes stock.
@247boxing Motortrend has the IS-F 0-60 in 4.3s and 1/4 in 12.7s and 60-0 in 108 ft as well. And some website have the IS-F goes from 0-60 in 4.1 to 4.2 s. And yes I agree the Camaro ss is fast and much cheaper but were talking about Lexus here.
@kempowarrior yeah thats true but u have to admit every time they improve it, it gets even better and better. but i give the is f kudos for being strong competition
@Miike92 its costs about as much as an M3, CTS-V, C6 vette coupe and grandsport, Boxter S I think. But it starts at like mid $50k I believe and the add ons add up just like with any luxury brand.
@Miike92 it doesnt get anywhere near the C6 vette or the CTS-V. But I guess it has nice features. For one, I hate luxury cars, and I especially hate luxury sport cars. They will never keep up with a pure sports car bottom line. I bought a 2010 370z not because its has nice features, but because its easily one of the best bang for the buck cars out right now and its quite fast.
@psmTARDCORE oh fer sure, you should of gotten the nismo version lol. But i think one exception to the luxury sports car is Lexus' super car LF-A, competes with the top of the line supercars
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why don't you guys ever be honest? if you say driving this lexus is harsh, you should also say the same thing about the bimmer. harshness is part of sporty driving. if it's more lexus like, soft, then you say it's not sporty enough.
firm and harsh could mean the same thing. difference is driver interpretation. there's not a lot difference in handling between the Lexus and Bimmer. Lexus cars are known for their comfy rides so I doubt it's more harsh than the bimmer.
@dhom100 you don't know what you're talking about. firm and harsh are not synonyms. the lexus can't absorb bumps, the bmw can. anyone who has ever driven both say that the bmw rides properly, whereas the lexus is completely unacceptable.
these guys have always been bias against Lexus cars. so this bias review doesn't surprise me. ISF is a lot better than what this guy is suggesting, possibly even better than this Bimmer. go check out other reviews why don't you. Lexus cars are the best when it comes to absorbing bumps, known for their comfy rides.
@dhom100 do you honestly think this is the first review i've seen? i've seen many reviews of this car from many different countries. they all say the same thing. it's too heavy, its gearbox has way too many gears, and it's too uncomfortable.
you simply have no idea what you're talking about.
sure I do. I'm talking about the ISF. what are you talking about? I've seen many reviews too. I agree most of them are biased against it but that doesn't surprise me because they've been that way for years, especially when comparing Lexus to German cars, that tells me that they don't offer fair reviews and so consumers shouldn't trust them. they should be impartial when reviewing cars for consumers.
@dhom100 ahh i see. so every review that says something bad is biased? well, i guess every single review i've ever seen is biased then. thank you for the insight.
no they're not all biased. just the ones who have traditionally been bias against a certain car maker. in that case, as consumer you can't trust them. Ask the customers who drive them everyday. Lexus has well earned reputation of making comfortable riding cars. they consistently ranked at the top of consumer satisfaction despite the bad press they get from so called expert reviewers.
again they have a well earned reputation of making cars that's comfortable to drive. why would they fail here? it's more likely that these guys aren't being honest. you can't convince me that it's more harsh than a Bimmer which has a reputation of being that way anyway. harsh is part of sporty driving as you push the car to perform.
@dhom100 no, harsh is not a part of sporty driving as you push the car to perform. harsh is the inability to cope with the changing road surface. this was lexus' first shot at a true sporty car, and i can see where they went wrong. they used a v8 they already made, and only concentrated on beating these cars on a track. well, the engine is too heavy, and it doesn't beat the m3 or rs4 on a track.
lexus probably didn't spend too much time making the car ride properly
yes that's what sporty driving is. the wheels are low to the ground, it rides firm. suspension is firm. you're pushing the car to go fast. driver is constantly working with both hands and feet. only way it's not harsh is if you're not feeling anything or you don't think about it. it's not like on a magic carpet ride where everything is smooth and soft. or even what a typical Lexus offers.
@dhom100 ok first you were saying it's not true that the lexus is firm, now you've gone the other way? i really don't think you know what you're talking about when it comes to performance cars. there are literally tons of cars that manage to be both sporty and comfortable at the same time. a few are: the golf gti, cadillac cts-v, jaguar xfr, mercedes e63, mercedes sl, bmw m3, etc. etc.
the lexus just doesn't make the list.
and jeremy clarkson calls things like he sees them, he's not biased.
all the sporty cars you mentioned are firm and harsh to ride in. just nature of sporty driving. Jeremy Clarkson is nothing but a comedian. and historically has been biased against Lexus brands. you can't even be honest about that. I tell it like it is. there is no way a Bimmer offers more comfortable ride than Lexus. something Lexus takes pride in and is known for.
@dhom100 i'm sick of you. it seems that everything the car reviewers say is wrong. they say the bmw m3 and cadillac cts-v are comfortable? perporsterous! they say the lexus is f is uncomfortable, and its chassis can't handle the power (you can see this yourself with the wobbling in the beginning powerslide of the video) of course not!
you're just a moronic lexus fanboy who doesn't want to accept the truth. try driving it yourself.
that's fine. I'm not too crazy about you either. and you don't seem all that nice or fair either. neither are these expert car reviewers who have been giving Lexus bad press for years, especially when they try to compete against German cars. I have my own views. so do a lot of people who are proud to own Lexus cars. they can be bias all they want, Lexus will continue to improve and take market shares.
@coolerdude44 Man I love Top Gear, my favorite show ever! But if you think Jeremy Clarkson is not biased you are wrong. If you watch Top Gear at all you would know this.
@dhom100 those improvements will markedly improve the lexus' performance, sales, and appeal. it'd be like a mini jaguar xfr. but on top of that, it'd be more of a proper lexus. it seems like this effort is, if anything, americanized. think about it. enormous v8, ridiculously rigid chassis that can't cope with the power, uncomfortable ride, chintzy/showy exterior/interior. these are all characteristics of typical american 'performance' cars
please don't badmouth American muscle cars. you shouldn't just go by what these reviewers say. they're expert at making a certain car look bad and another car look good. almost everything they say is subjective. they don't just present the facts. if they have a history of griping about a certain brand, then as consumers you know what to expect from them and shouldn't trust them to be honest. everything they say is bad about ISF is all subjective. I don't believe them.
@coolerdude44 Wait if you say that the typical american performance is all of the above, then why are you saying that the cadillac cts-v is both sporty and comfortable at the same time. You seem to be contradicting yourself.
so, i don't care what stereotypical comfort lexus puts into their vehicles. they didn't put any give in the chassis into the is f. you can even see this when it's powersliding at the beginning of this vid. it's practically wobbling.
the bmw is a better all-rounder, everybody who's ever driven one says that it can take off its 'mad hat' and become civilized.
as jeremy clarkson said it, "the bmw soothes your brow, the lexus attacks it with scissors"
@dhom100 like i said, and this video confirms it, the lexus designers spent all their time on the track because they probably figured they had a good platform to start with, that they didn't need to bother refining it on the road. it's a noble effort like i said, but for the next-gen is f:
i want it to be a performance cruiser, more comfortable on the road. i also want a smaller v8, like the bmw m3 and audi rs4 have. on top of that, a more forgiving chassis.
@torquemonsterr They're not fake, they serve a purpose at 172mph...its called aerodynamics. Have you ever even looked under there? Stock diffuser too. The tips actually aid in keeping the rear end stable at max speed, this was tested in a wind tunnel during building, then applied at Fuji speedway...
the acceleration times in this video dont do the is-f justice. My only grip is also with the transmission, extremely fast shifts for an auto, but 8 speeds is just too many. Hopefully they drop some weight with the next gen, that is if its still around.
@nmac121 it has 8 speeds because they wanted to retain some lexus-like character at high speeds. for example, cruising at 100 mph in 8th gear in this lexus, the engine only works at 2,000 rpm. that's pretty impressive.
on the circuit where this lexus was developed, however, only five gears are needed. this means the lexus has three cruising gears.
This beast is QUICK. I know first hand, it's really fast, and I have no problem with the ride. One of the few imports that gets the nod from me. Only thing weird was the only thing they didn't mention- the 8 speed Auto tranny. ALOT of shifting when in manual mode.
It's so disappointing. I wish that the IS-F had some sort of adjustable suspension, and perhaps a smaller, turbo engine. Lexus is supposed to be tech-savvy.
It's got one of the most beautiful interiors I've ever seen in a car, though.
The IS-F is one majestic beast from the beluga bull-dog nose to lean hunkered down side profile. It's already an Icon. Successive IS-F's will place a tremendous amount of pressure on Future M3's. Toyota/Lexus is one company that always eventually gets it right. The consumer will reaps the benefits.
Inside line's quarter mile is wrong. The quarter mile time that Road&Track recorded for the stock IS-F is 12.6@113.8mph. This Lex is not only luxurious and classy, but a Beast on the track and street no doubt.
I find it funny that the reviewer bitches about the car being to rough, for had it been like a normal Lexus luxo-cruiser, he would have been whining how it wasn't sporty enough! This car is da sh!t, anybody who says otherwise better be driving a freaking rocket; or STFU !
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Yes, its a shame they ditched the old school 5.0L's here, they were long serving and familiar and if they made more of a commitment to them they could of met the emissions requirements I am sure whilst delivering far more performance perhaps as a competitor to the IS-F and the likes.
2009 BMW M3's tracks specs, 0-62mph in 4.5's and 60-0mph in 98ft, skid-pad 0.98g, slalom 73.3mph and quarter mile at 12.5's at 113.2mph. So it smashes the IS-F and actually has better braking and slalom numbers than the Nissan GTR.
BS, please source your information Euro. The best time ive seen for the M3 is 4.6 to 60mph, car driver got the IS-F to 60mph in 4.2sec This makes sense since the IS-F has plenty more torque. The GT-R would absolutely rape the M3 on the track, not even in the same class, take a look at the GT-R's Nurburgring times as well as other track times.
Of course you retard. The GTR is in the class with the 911's.. Check it out yourself. Edmunds did the test of the GTR and got 71mph for the GTR in the slalom. Than Edmunds once again tested the M3 and got 98ft in a braking test. And sorry to burst your bubble but your same CarandDriver got a 4.4's in the IS-F and 4.1's in the M3. I'll send you the source by message if you want.
These reviewers ask for something, but when they get it, they complain that it's not something else. This car isn't suppose to have a plush ride; if it did, people would be hounding on it like the SC430. This car is a Track Monster, don't buy it if you want a fogiee boat.
To the person that wanted to see more of these on the streets; you crazy?! They should only sell enough to make the bosses happy, then keep the number low to make them special.
the IS-F already raped the RS4 in all the reviews (car and driver, edmunds, etc). They dont even both comparing the RS4 to the M3 or C63. What makes you think the the RS6 will beat the next F performance car from lexus?
Its almost comical to say any american car shits on something from another country, whether it be german, japanese, or even european for that matter. It might be quicker off the line but thats just the american automakers way of selling a piece of junk to the dumb rednecks that buy them.
Cool glad you liked your test drive. I never went in a isf I currently have a is 250 and its small and I am over 5 foot 10 lol. But its cozy. Great car.
My next car will be a Lexus, (or possibly but less likely a Mercedes), but I have to sell my SS Impala first... it would be a 'great' car if it was rear wheel drive but I fit well in it anyway.
Its not fake exhaust. The tip are not connected but are placed in the bumper. They did this because the shake and heat from the engine will melt the bumper. Many cars have this setup already...
Woops sry. Guess I should have fact checked youtube coments before makeing them into fact. The only problem with this car is that its sort of rare to see the isf on the road. I have seen a few but not many here in california. I hope it gets the popularity it deserves.
u know where ever in this world u go they talk good about lexus and how it is but in america these stupid channels like insidelinevideos mention the bad things so ppl think its a bad car then they buy mustang
actually lexus is not harsh in the city or the exhaust system does actually work
my friend has one and his works well and he loves his car because its fast, luxury, full of electronic system, the stereo system is awesome and a lot more
How can you buy this car and expect limo comfort levels on the street? The Audi S4 and the BMW M3 arent any softer on your rear than the ISF is.. and thats a fact..
The IS-f is so good that successive models will undoubtedly put a lot of pressure on future m3 models. My suspicion is that this IS-f will become an icon and will be highly sought after.After all, this is the first
what's up with all the new paddle shifts out there? they're not really that much better in these cheaper cars and if anything kind of take the heart out of driving. if anything put REAL racing shifters in, like the backward forward can't remember the name for them right now ones. THAT would be fun. not this aluminum i want to drive a nice car in my head crap.
oh sure, the gtr runs insane 0-60 times too, and look how their system's holding up. do you know how many of those cars were taken back to the dealers in the u.s.?
Kind of interesting...they complain that Lexus is too soft. Then Lexus stiffens it up, it's too harsh. Only Porsche & BMW are comfortable but also sporty enough.
how stupid people are getting today. Germans have been making the most technologic engines that gives their cars the best performance, and their interiors are far more technologic than americans, maybe not more than the japanese. And you cant be stupid and expect a sport car to be confortable, because thats not their purpose.
im just saying. these are the slowest times ive seen on an F. I know a guy just got one. ran a 12.6 this summer, on not even good weather conditions conditions.
they would lie because for some reason they dont like lexus. who knows why.
yes the exhaust tips are not connected BUT!!! they were at first, causing too much turbulance they were dis attached BUT!! the factory exhaust is still stacked
I agree 100% w/ you. People hate the fact that this is the FIRST gen of Lexus sports cars and its so great it knocks on the doors of multiple latest gens of other manufactures i.e. BMW m3, Audi s4, Mercedes c63. People are so quick to point out that the ISF may be tenths of a second slower in certain tests, but when you consider Lexus last forever, then while the BMW is in the shop, the Lexus is still out there tearing it up. My 98 Lexus Ls400 has gone 10yrs without ANY problems, serious not 1
Merc, BMW and Audi, they all are arrogant German automakers, they don't care even if their reliability rating has gone worse than Ford or GM. Because they know that people will buy them since they still have "heritage" and are from "Germany".
But such thing no more. I am glad Toyota has decided to put an end to the German brands completely, this IS-F may not be able to match M3 or C63 AMG, but the next generation will wipe'em out. I'm still waiting for LF-A, which will be a FERRARI killer.
We still have people who likes those americans cars like a fucking viper, which doesn't have half of any germans or italians cars stability, and needs a fuckin 8.3 litters engine to produce as much horse power than a 3.6 litters of a Modena. I've said it before, power is not everything. Thats why Americans got their ass kicked by the cubans, because they have power but no brain. "Strong as bull, almost as smart.". Germans deff have to arrogant. they have brain.
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"Lexus = Toyota in Disguise"
Once a Toyota. Always a Toyota no matter how much money, power, or richness you but into it. It will always be a Toyota at the end of the day. Japanese can't compare to Euros. the most expensive car in the world is a Euro. period. BMW for Life. Tee hee, dont hate, and if you do, go jack-off a million times to your Toyota.
This car is awesome!
SuperSecretFox 2 months ago
The is350 is fine. Lexus should be a smooth luxurious ride. Why spend $60k on a isf thats not really fast and rough ride. You can also supercharge a is350 for and still have an extra $15,000 without the gay tips. I pesonally hop in my evo when I want power.
lexevo 4 months ago
@lexevo lol silly boy
TheNewAlias 1 month ago
does it really have a rough ride??? It looks nice though :P
mervinchoa90 6 months ago
oh!! new dream car :D along with 370Z :D :D
mervinchoa90 6 months ago
So basically the problem with this performance car is that it's bad for when you aren't driving it like a performance car. . .
sykku 8 months ago
ISF is a very serious machine
andreakatickles1 8 months ago
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bigopzooka 9 months ago
It's a performance car with a 400 horsepower v8 and your worried about an unforgiving ride? It's either stiff suspension to take corners well or soft suspension for ride quality. If you want better ride quality get a regular Lexus. The key word here is PERFORMANCE. Lexus made a separate category of cars for people who aren't "everyday drivers"
arnoldt14 9 months ago
@arnoldt14 That's because edmunds are full of old heads. If I were in a market for something of this caliber, fuel economy and comfort would not be a concern. The new 2011 IS-F is even better I hear.
dukviper90 9 months ago
The ISF 0-60 is 4.6 and 12 8 in a qm so that dick don't know what he's talking about
andreakatickles1 10 months ago
I know a guy who has intake, exhaust, tune, and spray on his isf and he keeps up with a exhaust and tune gtr... Fast car!
ShawnSubaru 1 year ago
hmmmm slower slalom and worse braking than the IS250 F-Sport
decripple 1 year ago
@decripple , that's b/c the IS250 doesnt have the massive weight of a 5.0L V8 weighing down the front end.
4MATICbenz 1 year ago
@4MATICbenz True enough. It's too bad that so many v8s are so heavy for how much power they make. if you gain 300lbs and 100 hp why not only gain 50lbs and use forced induction.
decripple 1 year ago
@decripple , That method you just stated are actually what a lot of performance divsions are starting to do. Downsizing the engine and adding turbos are a pretty good alternative considering they save weight for increased handling/braking as well as improved fuel efficiency.
But some people (namely myself) prefer the burbley, musclular tone of a big NA V8. "No replacement for displacement" haha
4MATICbenz 1 year ago
O-60 in 4.8s yeah right, motortrend has the Lexus IS-F do 0-60 in 4.3s and many other mag and web had the Lexus IS-F 0-60 hitting 4.1 to 4.2 and yes stock.
kempowarrior 1 year ago
Toyota/Lexus is simply superior to every other automotive company on this planet.. Their cars are technologically superior compared to the rest..
ISF>>>M3
airtouch01 1 year ago
Camaro ss 0-60 4.6 1/4 13.00 60-0 108 ft price 33k
isf 0-60 4.8 1/4 13.2 60-0 112 ft price 50k
247boxing 1 year ago
@247boxing yes american horsepower. the problem is everything else but the power is weak
ceelm 1 year ago
@247boxing actually Lexus IS-F hit 0-60 in 4.1 second, just google and you will find proof.
kempowarrior 1 year ago
@247boxing Even the regular Lexus IS350 goes from 0-60 in 4.9s, google and you see, and yes stock.
kempowarrior 1 year ago
@247boxing Motortrend has the IS-F 0-60 in 4.3s and 1/4 in 12.7s and 60-0 in 108 ft as well. And some website have the IS-F goes from 0-60 in 4.1 to 4.2 s. And yes I agree the Camaro ss is fast and much cheaper but were talking about Lexus here.
kempowarrior 1 year ago
@kempowarrior yeah well then the m3 is better lol
247boxing 1 year ago
@247boxing I know the BMW M3 is better the Lexus IS-F there is no argue there. But how long has BMW been making the M3 Series? = ) ha...ha..ha...
The Lexus IS-F is Lexus first real sportscar and then came the Lexus LF-A.
kempowarrior 1 year ago
@kempowarrior yeah thats true but u have to admit every time they improve it, it gets even better and better. but i give the is f kudos for being strong competition
247boxing 1 year ago
Lexus IS-F only
uaeisf 1 year ago
i love the sound of the engine
valetdabess 1 year ago
416hp = 185mph hi speed for the lowist hp thats a good thing cuz 30 more hp will get u 200 mph
seglermichael 1 year ago
Impressive figures. Forget the faux- exhaust tips.. why didn't Toyota offer a true manual option?
drauglintuor 1 year ago
lexus has made a supercar that tops all bmw's and audi's easily: Lexus LFA
Miike92 1 year ago
@Miike92 for the price of it though, its quite steep but its definetely one of the coolest looking cars I have seen.
psmTARDCORE 1 year ago
@psmTARDCORE well how much is it again?
Miike92 1 year ago
@Miike92 its costs about as much as an M3, CTS-V, C6 vette coupe and grandsport, Boxter S I think. But it starts at like mid $50k I believe and the add ons add up just like with any luxury brand.
psmTARDCORE 1 year ago
@psmTARDCORE well its just as fast as those cars except it has the added luxury features, so the price is somewhat justified i think
Miike92 1 year ago
@Miike92 it doesnt get anywhere near the C6 vette or the CTS-V. But I guess it has nice features. For one, I hate luxury cars, and I especially hate luxury sport cars. They will never keep up with a pure sports car bottom line. I bought a 2010 370z not because its has nice features, but because its easily one of the best bang for the buck cars out right now and its quite fast.
psmTARDCORE 1 year ago
@psmTARDCORE oh fer sure, you should of gotten the nismo version lol. But i think one exception to the luxury sports car is Lexus' super car LF-A, competes with the top of the line supercars
Miike92 1 year ago
@psmTARDCORE funny how you don't like luxury cars. They are comfy. Are you saying you are not a luxury type person in general?
chltmdwp 1 year ago
@chltmdwp for a daily driver. about it.
psmTARDCORE 1 year ago
@psmTARDCORE i love you
chltmdwp 1 year ago
@chltmdwp i love myself too.
psmTARDCORE 1 year ago
To all recent Toyota haters: If you are so stupid that you don't understand the concept of stopping unintended acceleration by disengaging the gear by throwing it into neutral, then you should not be driving a car.
Seanbbn 1 year ago 2
I drove it last year, and is was really great.
Especially if you take a gear down above 4000 rpm. And with the 8 gears it also drives nice and smooth.
bonecollecter003 2 years ago
why don't you guys ever be honest? if you say driving this lexus is harsh, you should also say the same thing about the bimmer. harshness is part of sporty driving. if it's more lexus like, soft, then you say it's not sporty enough.
dhom100 2 years ago
@dhom100 because it's not true, the bimmer is firm, but rides exceptionally well for a car of this calibre.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
firm and harsh could mean the same thing. difference is driver interpretation. there's not a lot difference in handling between the Lexus and Bimmer. Lexus cars are known for their comfy rides so I doubt it's more harsh than the bimmer.
dhom100 2 years ago
@dhom100 you don't know what you're talking about. firm and harsh are not synonyms. the lexus can't absorb bumps, the bmw can. anyone who has ever driven both say that the bmw rides properly, whereas the lexus is completely unacceptable.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
these guys have always been bias against Lexus cars. so this bias review doesn't surprise me. ISF is a lot better than what this guy is suggesting, possibly even better than this Bimmer. go check out other reviews why don't you. Lexus cars are the best when it comes to absorbing bumps, known for their comfy rides.
dhom100 2 years ago
@dhom100 do you honestly think this is the first review i've seen? i've seen many reviews of this car from many different countries. they all say the same thing. it's too heavy, its gearbox has way too many gears, and it's too uncomfortable.
you simply have no idea what you're talking about.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
sure I do. I'm talking about the ISF. what are you talking about? I've seen many reviews too. I agree most of them are biased against it but that doesn't surprise me because they've been that way for years, especially when comparing Lexus to German cars, that tells me that they don't offer fair reviews and so consumers shouldn't trust them. they should be impartial when reviewing cars for consumers.
dhom100 2 years ago
@dhom100 ahh i see. so every review that says something bad is biased? well, i guess every single review i've ever seen is biased then. thank you for the insight.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
no they're not all biased. just the ones who have traditionally been bias against a certain car maker. in that case, as consumer you can't trust them. Ask the customers who drive them everyday. Lexus has well earned reputation of making comfortable riding cars. they consistently ranked at the top of consumer satisfaction despite the bad press they get from so called expert reviewers.
dhom100 2 years ago
@dhom100 nobody's denying that most lexii can ride well, but they failed to do so with the is f. it's that simple.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
again they have a well earned reputation of making cars that's comfortable to drive. why would they fail here? it's more likely that these guys aren't being honest. you can't convince me that it's more harsh than a Bimmer which has a reputation of being that way anyway. harsh is part of sporty driving as you push the car to perform.
dhom100 2 years ago
@dhom100 no, harsh is not a part of sporty driving as you push the car to perform. harsh is the inability to cope with the changing road surface. this was lexus' first shot at a true sporty car, and i can see where they went wrong. they used a v8 they already made, and only concentrated on beating these cars on a track. well, the engine is too heavy, and it doesn't beat the m3 or rs4 on a track.
lexus probably didn't spend too much time making the car ride properly
coolerdude44 2 years ago
yes that's what sporty driving is. the wheels are low to the ground, it rides firm. suspension is firm. you're pushing the car to go fast. driver is constantly working with both hands and feet. only way it's not harsh is if you're not feeling anything or you don't think about it. it's not like on a magic carpet ride where everything is smooth and soft. or even what a typical Lexus offers.
dhom100 2 years ago
@dhom100 ok first you were saying it's not true that the lexus is firm, now you've gone the other way? i really don't think you know what you're talking about when it comes to performance cars. there are literally tons of cars that manage to be both sporty and comfortable at the same time. a few are: the golf gti, cadillac cts-v, jaguar xfr, mercedes e63, mercedes sl, bmw m3, etc. etc.
the lexus just doesn't make the list.
and jeremy clarkson calls things like he sees them, he's not biased.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
all the sporty cars you mentioned are firm and harsh to ride in. just nature of sporty driving. Jeremy Clarkson is nothing but a comedian. and historically has been biased against Lexus brands. you can't even be honest about that. I tell it like it is. there is no way a Bimmer offers more comfortable ride than Lexus. something Lexus takes pride in and is known for.
dhom100 2 years ago
@dhom100 i'm sick of you. it seems that everything the car reviewers say is wrong. they say the bmw m3 and cadillac cts-v are comfortable? perporsterous! they say the lexus is f is uncomfortable, and its chassis can't handle the power (you can see this yourself with the wobbling in the beginning powerslide of the video) of course not!
you're just a moronic lexus fanboy who doesn't want to accept the truth. try driving it yourself.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
that's fine. I'm not too crazy about you either. and you don't seem all that nice or fair either. neither are these expert car reviewers who have been giving Lexus bad press for years, especially when they try to compete against German cars. I have my own views. so do a lot of people who are proud to own Lexus cars. they can be bias all they want, Lexus will continue to improve and take market shares.
dhom100 2 years ago
@coolerdude44 Man I love Top Gear, my favorite show ever! But if you think Jeremy Clarkson is not biased you are wrong. If you watch Top Gear at all you would know this.
bergi85 1 year ago
@bergi85 i've watched every episode of top gear, and i constantly see jeremy clarkson breaking his "biases" whenever a good car comes along.
everyone said he was completely biased against american cars, yet when two good ones came out (cts-v and zr1) he raved about them for weeks.
everyone said he was against bmw, yet he said he would buy the new z4.
he's not biased, he just states facts or opinions. basically, he calls it like he sees it.
coolerdude44 1 year ago
@dhom100 those improvements will markedly improve the lexus' performance, sales, and appeal. it'd be like a mini jaguar xfr. but on top of that, it'd be more of a proper lexus. it seems like this effort is, if anything, americanized. think about it. enormous v8, ridiculously rigid chassis that can't cope with the power, uncomfortable ride, chintzy/showy exterior/interior. these are all characteristics of typical american 'performance' cars
coolerdude44 2 years ago
please don't badmouth American muscle cars. you shouldn't just go by what these reviewers say. they're expert at making a certain car look bad and another car look good. almost everything they say is subjective. they don't just present the facts. if they have a history of griping about a certain brand, then as consumers you know what to expect from them and shouldn't trust them to be honest. everything they say is bad about ISF is all subjective. I don't believe them.
dhom100 2 years ago
@coolerdude44 Wait if you say that the typical american performance is all of the above, then why are you saying that the cadillac cts-v is both sporty and comfortable at the same time. You seem to be contradicting yourself.
bergi85 1 year ago
so, i don't care what stereotypical comfort lexus puts into their vehicles. they didn't put any give in the chassis into the is f. you can even see this when it's powersliding at the beginning of this vid. it's practically wobbling.
the bmw is a better all-rounder, everybody who's ever driven one says that it can take off its 'mad hat' and become civilized.
as jeremy clarkson said it, "the bmw soothes your brow, the lexus attacks it with scissors"
coolerdude44 2 years ago
oh figures you like Jeremy Clarkson who's notorious for making Toyota/Lexus cars look bad on his show.
dhom100 2 years ago
@dhom100 like i said, and this video confirms it, the lexus designers spent all their time on the track because they probably figured they had a good platform to start with, that they didn't need to bother refining it on the road. it's a noble effort like i said, but for the next-gen is f:
i want it to be a performance cruiser, more comfortable on the road. i also want a smaller v8, like the bmw m3 and audi rs4 have. on top of that, a more forgiving chassis.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
the 1/4 is just 0.3 secs faster than the new GT mustang
GTGTRR 2 years ago
the quad exhaust on the new ferrari california are fake too..
torquemonsterr 2 years ago 22
@torquemonsterr They're not fake, they serve a purpose at 172mph...its called aerodynamics. Have you ever even looked under there? Stock diffuser too. The tips actually aid in keeping the rear end stable at max speed, this was tested in a wind tunnel during building, then applied at Fuji speedway...
SRVPrelude 7 months ago
@torquemonsterr And they look just as stupid!
saygmo 6 months ago
I think I don't understand how it does 0-60 in only 4.8 secs, there are videos of IS350s doing it faster or at the exact same time stock.
maxedoutman 2 years ago
Yeah, the IS-F did 0-60 in 4.3 & ran the 1/4 mile in 12.6 @ 113.8 mph in Car & Driver.
IrishChris1979 2 years ago
@maxedoutman the isf weighs more than an is350
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torquemonsterr 2 years ago
great point thanks for the info, good to know its not just lexus doing this for looks...
Thanks for your post.
stephenjackson1 2 years ago
the acceleration times in this video dont do the is-f justice. My only grip is also with the transmission, extremely fast shifts for an auto, but 8 speeds is just too many. Hopefully they drop some weight with the next gen, that is if its still around.
nmac121 2 years ago
@nmac121 it has 8 speeds because they wanted to retain some lexus-like character at high speeds. for example, cruising at 100 mph in 8th gear in this lexus, the engine only works at 2,000 rpm. that's pretty impressive.
on the circuit where this lexus was developed, however, only five gears are needed. this means the lexus has three cruising gears.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
hope for a gs-f to compete with the m5
dontknow95 2 years ago
This beast is QUICK. I know first hand, it's really fast, and I have no problem with the ride. One of the few imports that gets the nod from me. Only thing weird was the only thing they didn't mention- the 8 speed Auto tranny. ALOT of shifting when in manual mode.
Revo21384 2 years ago
Would reslly love to see a gs-f
dontknow95 2 years ago
It's so disappointing. I wish that the IS-F had some sort of adjustable suspension, and perhaps a smaller, turbo engine. Lexus is supposed to be tech-savvy.
It's got one of the most beautiful interiors I've ever seen in a car, though.
Darklogic112358 2 years ago
Does anynone know if you can purchase it in a Manual drive?
emanuelunique 2 years ago
Manual transmission is not available :-(...
camrygrande 2 years ago
The IS-F is one majestic beast from the beluga bull-dog nose to lean hunkered down side profile. It's already an Icon. Successive IS-F's will place a tremendous amount of pressure on Future M3's. Toyota/Lexus is one company that always eventually gets it right. The consumer will reaps the benefits.
whiteliketar 2 years ago 9
Inside line's quarter mile is wrong. The quarter mile time that Road&Track recorded for the stock IS-F is 12.6@113.8mph. This Lex is not only luxurious and classy, but a Beast on the track and street no doubt.
bagggggyo 1 year ago
@whiteliketar yes i totally agree the M3 will eventually lose
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McCluneys 2 years ago
The styling changes for the IS-F are pretty cheesy, especially the bulging hood, but you can't argue with the performance.
cbotten106 2 years ago
I find it funny that the reviewer bitches about the car being to rough, for had it been like a normal Lexus luxo-cruiser, he would have been whining how it wasn't sporty enough! This car is da sh!t, anybody who says otherwise better be driving a freaking rocket; or STFU !
HalfBreedMix 2 years ago
nice car, it's stupid how the quad exhaust is just for looks tho :(
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gudfar95 2 years ago
i just saw on of these yesterday!!!:) its bad ass
SCARFACE745 2 years ago
my dad owns a m3 an s5 and a is-f and he likes the ISF DA BEST. i prfer da m3 myself
buddhistpriest94 2 years ago
wow daddys lil biotch
CHAVEZQUIZ9800 2 years ago
and he just put dwn n order 4 a hamann M6 :):):)
buddhistpriest94 2 years ago
dude your dad is poor
NiceBryce 2 years ago
i like ur dad
TheLexusguy94 2 years ago
I'm impressed. This is coming from a Holden/Ford fan.
godanselmo 2 years ago
Yes, its a shame they ditched the old school 5.0L's here, they were long serving and familiar and if they made more of a commitment to them they could of met the emissions requirements I am sure whilst delivering far more performance perhaps as a competitor to the IS-F and the likes.
aussieeagle2512 2 years ago
2009 BMW M3's tracks specs, 0-62mph in 4.5's and 60-0mph in 98ft, skid-pad 0.98g, slalom 73.3mph and quarter mile at 12.5's at 113.2mph. So it smashes the IS-F and actually has better braking and slalom numbers than the Nissan GTR.
EuroSport2006 2 years ago
BS, please source your information Euro. The best time ive seen for the M3 is 4.6 to 60mph, car driver got the IS-F to 60mph in 4.2sec This makes sense since the IS-F has plenty more torque. The GT-R would absolutely rape the M3 on the track, not even in the same class, take a look at the GT-R's Nurburgring times as well as other track times.
flood77777 2 years ago
Of course you retard. The GTR is in the class with the 911's.. Check it out yourself. Edmunds did the test of the GTR and got 71mph for the GTR in the slalom. Than Edmunds once again tested the M3 and got 98ft in a braking test. And sorry to burst your bubble but your same CarandDriver got a 4.4's in the IS-F and 4.1's in the M3. I'll send you the source by message if you want.
EuroSport2006 2 years ago
I've seen that. Look at it yourselves retards.. +1
IPGAuto 2 years ago
Wow what a numbers make up by yourself?
Attesa45 2 years ago
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So whats the point of this car??
its not quiker then the m3 but its not as muscle as the c63 amg and its not as grippy as the s4. Whats the point.
it uses a big 5 liter v8 when the m3 only uses a 4.2 liter. and still gets more power.
What is the POINT?? i dont see it, it looks like a fukin whale. It looks fukin shit.
LEXUS FAIL!
Howie262 2 years ago
Why are you whining like a little girl? I don't think lexus gives a shit what you
think, and quite honestly I don't either.
Lexus will still sell this car, and quite a few of them. I saw it a the Autoshow last week and it's gorgeous inside and out.
Six4a9 2 years ago
I agree the car looks hideous
8MunchenBayern8 2 years ago
this guy's a true cockmaster
simmyludilo 3 years ago
These reviewers ask for something, but when they get it, they complain that it's not something else. This car isn't suppose to have a plush ride; if it did, people would be hounding on it like the SC430. This car is a Track Monster, don't buy it if you want a fogiee boat.
To the person that wanted to see more of these on the streets; you crazy?! They should only sell enough to make the bosses happy, then keep the number low to make them special.
HalfBreedMix 3 years ago 2
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pfft 09 cts-v shits on this
th3ha1og0d 3 years ago
I would hope so...it has 550hp
The IS-F only Has 420.
Wait for the GS-F
;)
Toyota4Life 3 years ago 7
& when this GS-F is going to be introdcued in the market?
camrygrande 3 years ago
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The RS6 will eat the GS-F.
maxou5757 3 years ago
In your dreams. Lexus is building a V10 550+ hp monster.
It will rape your RS in the ASS.
Toyota4Life 3 years ago
Oh yeah ??? Well the RS6 is 580HP.
The ABT RS6 that makes 700hp will also eat the future GS-F! Why ? Because it's a monster.
Stop saying '' Lexus will, lexus is building, wait until blablabla '' Yeah when Lexus offers the GS-F the RS6 (or the E63 AMG) will make +600hp HAHAH
maxou5757 3 years ago
LOl u guys are arguing like it matters, you're NEVER GOING TO USE MORE THAN 400 HP in America...end of story. and the RS6 IS BETTER
8MunchenBayern8 2 years ago
I can ;) I live in Quebec.
maxou5757 2 years ago
still pretty much the same...you have to break pretty soon...German autobahn ftw
8MunchenBayern8 2 years ago
Not really... I often drive friday/saturday night and the highway are always almost empty and I could easily go 200km/h :)
Anyway 400HP is also useful when you want to race another car at a stop
maxou5757 2 years ago
yeah but you guys were arguing about 580 HP and beyond...at that point...those figures do not matter
8MunchenBayern8 2 years ago
Uh there's a difference between 400 and 580hp, but if you can drive a 400hp car on one road, you can also drive the 580hp one.
maxou5757 2 years ago
bullshit! there are videos all over youtube of guys opening up their cars on random highways in everyday situations AND getting away with it.
even in crazy traffic ridden southern california.
RCD608 2 years ago
the IS-F already raped the RS4 in all the reviews (car and driver, edmunds, etc). They dont even both comparing the RS4 to the M3 or C63. What makes you think the the RS6 will beat the next F performance car from lexus?
flood77777 2 years ago
The RS4 is there since 2006 ... please give Audi a chance with their new model coming.
maxou5757 2 years ago
shits on it with what...its shitty resale value
Its almost comical to say any american car shits on something from another country, whether it be german, japanese, or even european for that matter. It might be quicker off the line but thats just the american automakers way of selling a piece of junk to the dumb rednecks that buy them.
jmd11185 3 years ago
lol, yep and then it's resale value is $35,000 after you drive it for a year. This thing will keep it's value.
Six4a9 3 years ago 4
COCK NIGGER
th3ha1og0d 3 years ago
You have stock in GM or something bubba? You took a conversation about cars and turned it racial lol wow.
You must have been home schooled.
Six4a9 3 years ago
STOCK YOUR MOMS DICK
th3ha1og0d 3 years ago
Okay whatever that means lol. Your 41 with the intellect of a 7 year old. I'm losing brain cells even replying to this garbage.
Get help.
Six4a9 3 years ago
I TURN 42 VERY SOON
CUNT NIBBLER
th3ha1og0d 3 years ago
lol youre mature
stupidlambo 3 years ago
But the new styleing doesnt look that great in my opinion I love the is 350's body styleings better. But everyone has there own opinion
miniheli 3 years ago
I FUCKING LOVE THIS CAR!!!!
Lexus Luxury, Lexus Quality, Lexus Reliabilty and Performance all in one package.
Now you can get Lexus Qauilty + BAD ASS Performance
BEST COMBINATION!
IS-F > M3
Lexus.
Toyota4Life 3 years ago 3
M3.
8MunchenBayern8 3 years ago
Fake exaust!!! To many f bages. But I love it. The good out ways the bad by a longshot:)
miniheli 3 years ago
I test drove one last monday and I kind of agree with you! But, if your over 5 foot' 10", then don't bother.
puffrooster 3 years ago
Cool glad you liked your test drive. I never went in a isf I currently have a is 250 and its small and I am over 5 foot 10 lol. But its cozy. Great car.
miniheli 3 years ago 3
My next car will be a Lexus, (or possibly but less likely a Mercedes), but I have to sell my SS Impala first... it would be a 'great' car if it was rear wheel drive but I fit well in it anyway.
puffrooster 3 years ago 2
How little some of you people know.
Its not fake exhaust. The tip are not connected but are placed in the bumper. They did this because the shake and heat from the engine will melt the bumper. Many cars have this setup already...
Toyota4Life 3 years ago 2
Woops sry. Guess I should have fact checked youtube coments before makeing them into fact. The only problem with this car is that its sort of rare to see the isf on the road. I have seen a few but not many here in california. I hope it gets the popularity it deserves.
miniheli 3 years ago 2
Me too. Its a very nice car.
Performance and Lexus Luxury.
Perfect Blend :)
Lexus.
Toyota4Life 3 years ago 2
u know where ever in this world u go they talk good about lexus and how it is but in america these stupid channels like insidelinevideos mention the bad things so ppl think its a bad car then they buy mustang
actually lexus is not harsh in the city or the exhaust system does actually work
my friend has one and his works well and he loves his car because its fast, luxury, full of electronic system, the stereo system is awesome and a lot more
so LEXUS IS AWESOME
11501490 3 years ago 2
Not to mention it will be a lot more reliable than those 2 in the long run.
Lexus Rocks
artcam1 3 years ago 4
hell yea V8 Lexus,luxury and performance all in one package.
khmerb0i 3 years ago 8
How can you buy this car and expect limo comfort levels on the street? The Audi S4 and the BMW M3 arent any softer on your rear than the ISF is.. and thats a fact..
ayaxro 3 years ago 5
absolutely cool car
AxelStraf 3 years ago 9
does anyone if the rear bumber to the IS-F fits to the IS250
/350?
borkri 3 years ago
The IS-f is so good that successive models will undoubtedly put a lot of pressure on future m3 models. My suspicion is that this IS-f will become an icon and will be highly sought after.After all, this is the first
IS-F.
whiteliketar 3 years ago 6
what's up with all the new paddle shifts out there? they're not really that much better in these cheaper cars and if anything kind of take the heart out of driving. if anything put REAL racing shifters in, like the backward forward can't remember the name for them right now ones. THAT would be fun. not this aluminum i want to drive a nice car in my head crap.
bradfick147 3 years ago
2 modes to drive it, sport mode, (beeps) and road version (regular), i was at MIR, and this car did 0-60 in 4.3 in sport mode
bluegrey123 3 years ago
oh sure, the gtr runs insane 0-60 times too, and look how their system's holding up. do you know how many of those cars were taken back to the dealers in the u.s.?
bradfick147 3 years ago
Kind of interesting...they complain that Lexus is too soft. Then Lexus stiffens it up, it's too harsh. Only Porsche & BMW are comfortable but also sporty enough.
storage2k 3 years ago 4
BMW and Porsche are not comfortable, their cars are just overpriced Ford Fusion.
InfinitiGPower 3 years ago 6
how stupid people are getting today. Germans have been making the most technologic engines that gives their cars the best performance, and their interiors are far more technologic than americans, maybe not more than the japanese. And you cant be stupid and expect a sport car to be confortable, because thats not their purpose.
caiooon 3 years ago
you'er right! if it is'nt a bmw M series or porche these critics will not like it.
kronosdb 3 years ago 4
I think Edmunds hates lexus:
4.8 from 0-60???? come on the is350 can do 5.0 easy.
13.2 1/4 mile? thats the worst time ive heard of this car by 1/2 a second. the IS350 can do 13.5 for god sake.
whats the deal.
Juice14G 3 years ago 5
Im with you there.
artcam1 3 years ago
Why would they lie? A vette which is lighter with more torque goes the 1/4 mile in 12.7? 13.2 is unreasonable for a heavier car with more drag.
IDBNVS2 3 years ago
im just saying. these are the slowest times ive seen on an F. I know a guy just got one. ran a 12.6 this summer, on not even good weather conditions conditions.
they would lie because for some reason they dont like lexus. who knows why.
Juice14G 3 years ago
yea 0-60 is about 4.2-4.3 and traps 113
bumbobb 3 years ago
yes the exhaust tips are not connected BUT!!! they were at first, causing too much turbulance they were dis attached BUT!! the factory exhaust is still stacked
dickcheese663 3 years ago
where did you hear that from, i've also heard that the result of the disconnected tip, makes for a rear diffuser...
slpwlkr04 3 years ago
who caressssssssss if the tips aren't connected, it obviously has an exhaust...
i'm pretty sure lexus did that for a reason.
look at the audi R8, lambo, and bugatti, their tips aren't connected either omg!
and i bet all you assholes complaining like those cars!
double standard fuckfaces.
this car did pretty well for it's first year. let's see how lexus/toyota follow up this project!
seriously though, is-f needs a proper 6spd gearbox.
i like all cars, shapes and sizes.
slpwlkr04 3 years ago 10
I agree 100% w/ you. People hate the fact that this is the FIRST gen of Lexus sports cars and its so great it knocks on the doors of multiple latest gens of other manufactures i.e. BMW m3, Audi s4, Mercedes c63. People are so quick to point out that the ISF may be tenths of a second slower in certain tests, but when you consider Lexus last forever, then while the BMW is in the shop, the Lexus is still out there tearing it up. My 98 Lexus Ls400 has gone 10yrs without ANY problems, serious not 1
lexluthor400 3 years ago 8
Merc, BMW and Audi, they all are arrogant German automakers, they don't care even if their reliability rating has gone worse than Ford or GM. Because they know that people will buy them since they still have "heritage" and are from "Germany".
But such thing no more. I am glad Toyota has decided to put an end to the German brands completely, this IS-F may not be able to match M3 or C63 AMG, but the next generation will wipe'em out. I'm still waiting for LF-A, which will be a FERRARI killer.
InfinitiGPower 3 years ago 11
We still have people who likes those americans cars like a fucking viper, which doesn't have half of any germans or italians cars stability, and needs a fuckin 8.3 litters engine to produce as much horse power than a 3.6 litters of a Modena. I've said it before, power is not everything. Thats why Americans got their ass kicked by the cubans, because they have power but no brain. "Strong as bull, almost as smart.". Germans deff have to arrogant. they have brain.
caiooon 3 years ago
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"Lexus = Toyota in Disguise"
Once a Toyota. Always a Toyota no matter how much money, power, or richness you but into it. It will always be a Toyota at the end of the day. Japanese can't compare to Euros. the most expensive car in the world is a Euro. period. BMW for Life. Tee hee, dont hate, and if you do, go jack-off a million times to your Toyota.
jarion05 3 years ago
only volkswagen owners might give u some respect. Lexus is here to stay. get used to it. their cars are invincible.
whiteliketar 3 years ago 7
What a stupid comment . If thats the case I guess
VW = Audi in disguise or Porsche in disguise
Chevy = Cadillac in disguise
M I N I = B M W in disguise (my favorite)
Ford = Lincoln in disguise .
Euro cars suck ! they handle great but have the worst reliability. Jack off to that NAZI.
artcam1 3 years ago 5
Thats pretty good, I like that
MINI =BMW in disguise lol
BMW are one of the most problematic cars made
no1boost 3 years ago 2
I really dont like that exhaust
DEACONAP4LOVE 3 years ago
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fuck lexus theyre not shipping it to the middle east .why i thought there slogen was persuit of perfection ,hhhh yah righ.
NUTRIOR 3 years ago
It's earily similar to the Taurus SHO.
Yamaha with d