This is a study done by scientists who have legit medical credentials. Ecstasy does not equal MDMA. Ecstasy is mixed MDMA with random shit. If you get some cut shit and get brain damage, don't blame the drug, blame the dealer for cutting it. Before you start telling everyone how MDMA kills brain cells, read studies about it. Go on PubMed or MAPS and provide scientific proof: Residual neurocognitive features of long-term ecstasy users with minimal exposure to other drugs. Read it and then talk.
@asdfasdfsadfasdfafsd now i sort of agree with you here , hold on dont get excited its the crap ppl cut drugs with to make more money, how would i know this well heavy use back in 90s till mid 2000s gives me some experince but hands on experince E OR MDMA is safer then hosre riding DRUGS WHEN USED CORRECTLY ARE GREAT but if abused they kill fact nott fiction. now take straINS OF WEED they have trebbled the power i mean thc levels to the extreme scarey ive been smoking 20yrs
FUCK XTC you people are heavily misguided if you think this fucked up methamphetamine is safe, smoke trees and trip on psychedellics FUCK ECSTASY ITS VERY BAD FOR YOUR BRAIN, trust me
@adamdude58 I did ecstasy for 3 years, every weekend... Im completely healthy. I stopped doing that and smoking and drinking... Ill tell u smoking and drinking is WAY harsher on ur body.....
MDMA is not methamphetamine or anything like it; although it may posses some structural similarities, MDMA's biological resultant is uniquely different than its amphetamine cousin's. Think about it. H2O and H2O2 seem very similar, but one is caustic while the other is necessary to most life. And due to your ignorance of pharmacodynamics, I think it is safe to disregard your bold assertion backed up by absolutely nothing.
Other drugs that are chemically similar to MDMA, such as MDA (methylenedioxyamphetamine, the parent drug of MDMA) and PMA (paramethoxyamphetamine, associated with fatalities in the United States and Australia),5 are sometimes sold as ecstasy. These drugs can be neurotoxic or create additional health risks to the user se it my not be e or xtc or mdma your buying ive just learnt some thing new the paramethoxyamphetamine wow what about DESOMOPRHINE in russia aka krocodil errm ???
@almostskater3210 its like methamphetamine just changing a few molcoules its like meow meow sold here in uk europe as plant food just cause some sicentist like yourself says its safe or dangerous doesnt mean it is , you may wonder why i am on your back 1 youve intelligence 2 lack experince though mybe your the cook from down street lmao , ill get my tick next time we meet no seroius you just think its mind or matter an its that simple or do i have you wrong
ok this i do actually beliefe that alcohol is worse than xtc but what i do not beliefe is what other videos are saying( alcohol worse than heroin and alchohol worse than crank) i mean the fuck
@Deel2506 - No it isn't. The fact that drugs are illegal has meant that the production of drugs has gone into criminal hands. Than means drugs are now mixed with potentially lethal substances that are more harmful than the drugs themelves. The illegality has meant that drug users now struggle to get enough clean needles and so infection spreads easier than if it was spread sexually. Plus the black market is funding criminals to commit worse crimes than just dealing. The statement is true.
@1990MattyD That is true. It was inevitable that drug manufacturing went into criminal hands. Drugs, the adulterants and the means of taking them are all dangerous. But would making drugs legal make them less dangerous? I think not. While that, thankfully, would not be done in the near future, there has been strides in this regard, such as providing sterile needles to heroin addicts. But such measures would not help. That junkie would still be a junkie and possibly spread the addiction to others
@Deel2506 - It will make them a hell of a lot safer, when you are putting only the pure materials into the drug and not lethal things you'd find in the cupboard under your sink. Providing clean needles will save the NHS millions, billions on the long term, and save thousands of lives. From the latest statistics, 79% of all heroin related deaths are due to infection. I know what I'm talking about, I studied Crime and Law at Edinburgh University and have had hands on experience with drugs myself.
@1990MattyD Well, that might be right. It's similar to how alcohol was legalized, isn't it? And making alcohol illegal was the worst thing to happen since it increased crime. But alcohol is still dangerous to the human body. Drugs are much more dangerous than alcohol (not according to the documentary, but as a general outlook), legal or otherwise. While the legal nature of drugs can decrease the spreading of diseases, would the number of drug addicts go down?
@Deel2506 - I don't think you understand. Alchohol was never legalised - it was never made illegal! If it was made illegal, there would be a huge and destructive black market that millions of people will invest in, and this will cost the tax payer even more than any of the drug market put together! Same with tobacco. Alcohol is more dangerous than *some* drugs. Ecstasy, pot, mdma, relatively harmless next to alchohol.
@1990MattyD Oh I am sorry. I had typed wrongly. I meant that alcohol was made illegal during Prohibition and it led to a lot of crime. So currently, drugs are illegal and there is lot of crime because of it. If it is made legal, it might not work the same way as "legal" alcohol. But I agree that there are harder drugs than alcohol.
@Deel2506 - Plus, if you want to cut down on the number of addicts, instead of locking them up into a prison where getting drugs is easy, we should be prescribing them clean drugs under a programme that lowers their drug use and defeats their addiction - like they have in Portugal (where possession is not a criminal offence, but illegal nonetheless) where they have seen the number of people seeking therapy double, and the number of those taking drugs decrease.
@1990MattyD Cutting down on punitive actions and prescribing voluntary rehabilitation programs does look good, but it won't be very effective. Would the addicts come and join voluntarily? I bet 9 out of 10 won't come. So there goes the personal freedom aspect. But yes, depending on the severity of the type of drug (its schedule, addictiveness), sentencing drug addicts to such stringent rehab programs + community service, rather than prison, is truly better.
@Deel2506 - If you read carefully - Portugal have seen the number of people seeking therapy double, plus, instead of imprisoning them, make it compulsory for caught drug users to go on rehabilitaion programmes. If not, at least then they have the clear option to get clean needles and advice on the safe delivery of the drug. Regarding what you said about "9 out of 10 won't come", I disagree, considering that the overwhelming majority of all drug users wish they could stop.
wow this shits crazy!! i didnt think ecstasy was that dangerous, but i definitely didnt realize it was that safe in comparison to other drugs. this just goes to show u can hardly ever believe what the mainstream media or the government tells u. Theres actually a documentary a friend told me about I really want to watch called "Programming the Nation?" Apparently its all about how the government and the media control the masses via subliminal messages and advertisements... Scary!!
@StarryKid06 now pot is ok when you dont fuck about with THC levels as ive been smoking hashih gangja pot about 22 yrs but in lasst 7 yrs its got twice as strong potent this makes your buzz bad also i think creates mental problems like paranoia pycoshis etc so pot anit that safe mate pls plus ppl put tabaco in it lmao more poisons
The most dangerous thing about ecstasy pills? Not knowing what they're cut with. Who's fault is that? The government. If they were legal people could get pure mdma and not have to worry. But nope...wanna make chocolate illegal next? I heard it clogs your arteries and too much daily sugar can lead to diabetes in the future...right? How many years do I have to wait until it's a class A drug? Should I stock up now? What a joke.
lol alcohol. ritalin/caffaine/cacao ftw! I need focus stim not a Tranquilizer stim. I mean really if you got Adult ADHD the wrong stim can be really damaging I don't know why they have alcohol everywhere It doesn't have any useful function just plain annoying
- if it isn't liberty it isn't worth arguing in favor of , period.
I hate discrimination against people that are not harming others. You have the right to self injure, assuming that which is not self injury IS self injury is called fascism..... the only crimes are crimes against others, driving IMPAIRED ( not altered, IMPAIRED ) , hurting people, killing, stealing, these are crimes, being a Jew or taking ecstasy is the same thing, freedom of religion, and 1st amendment rights. xcept circumbad
"He that would trade liberty for security will have and deserves neither." - Franklin
and its only the liar that makes tyranny seem reasonable, by amplifying fears. people are allowed to go skiing, more dangerous to ski than use ecstasy once a month.
now listen, if someone isn't arguing for liberty they are a victim of mind control through the media and authority, it does not matter what the science of anything is, prescription medications are shit, they are worthless, they do nto cure anything, they are costly, and they kill 100,000 a year, whereas hard drugs do not kill anywhere near that many, in fact only alcohol kills that many.
LIBERTY NOT PROHIBITION. liberty means drive sober enough to be a good driver.
because sarbinox has pleixgons and plexigons cause sarbawoes to rise to 32, therefore, we must punish people and take away their sovereignty dignity ......
the language of liars corrupt to the core, no matter what science says, no matter what something is, liberty is the key , not prohbition.
adults can decide, children cannot get stuff from shops, because they'd have to produce an ID showing they are of age, problem of drugs solved, addiction aint no problem, let addicts addict
because only by banning all forms of liberty can we be free .... that is the true meaning of freedom, do unto others as you would have them not do unto you , because others are a threat
YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO YOURSELF IF YOU AREN'T DRIVING WHILE DOING IT, period.
i just got arrested for having some mdma on me, harmed no one and enjoy the beautiful experience of it raving with my bro's and now i'm a bad person apparently
@Rnexen caffeine doesnt kill people, nor does marijuana....while the biggest killers by far are legal, first cigarettes, then alcohol....just shows how the government runs (ruins) things
How can ecstasy, a relatively safe drug (much safer than alcohol or tobacco) be in the same class as highly addictive substances that can seriously change your perception of things and easily ruin your life, like cocain and heroin??
U need to find people on the internet who had the same experience as u did if u want some real good advice, and if u look good, u will find it. I don't want to bad talk psychiatrists and psychologists but 95% can't help u.
It is harddrugs, it arises your emotions stronger than usually. It also depends on the person, traumatic experiences and such only will be worse. In that case it's a priority to stay sober, only sober your able to deal with it, also no pharmaceutical drugs that's practicly the same. Plus it gives u heart problems and weakens your immuum system. It's just a profit system, they don't give a fuck....
From my own expirience i must say that alcohol for me was is worse then everything i used. Alcohol (when used dayly in a high amount) physical your body doesnt accept any vitamins u eat, u shit it all out. Mentally your memory chances like a 80 year old person as does your motoric system. Plus a delusional awareness of everything around u, dissociative thoughts; the lights are on but nobody is at home....U only feel normal again with alcohol, and u need more and more. 15 beers amd i felled sober
Alcohol when used daily is one of the most addicting and dangerous drugs in the world, the withdrawals are also fucking HORRIBLE. But hey the gov had to keep something legal to make some extra money.
@TheHoffmanHouse Alcohol was actually banned in the US Constitution, but the Amendment was repealed because during the Prohibition, people still bought it, which encouraged crime. Alcohol was an illegal drug sold by criminals like Al Capone. Repealing the ban was meant to reduce organized crime.
Poppers & MDMA less dangerous than marijuana? That's the kind of nonsense you get when scientists talk out their arses rather than listening to human experiences. Hoffman would laugh at their foolishness. They said themselves that poppers can be fatal if swallowed - that alone is far more dangerous than marijuana. MDMA can down-regulate serotonin levels, in addition to being an amphetamine derivative that can destroy one's teeth, Again, worse than pot.
But people don't swallow poppers... you can choke and die on food, but i wouldn't call food more harmful than marijuana... MDMA cannot destroy ones teeth.... its not an amphetamine derivative; its a substituted methylenedioxyphenethylamine. Not saying your not right but still
So what? H2O2 has H2O in it but ones caustic and the other is necessary for human life. I can tell you are not a chemist or have any knowledge at all about chemical engineering and drug design but just because a chemical contains a similar structure does not mean at all that they are alike or that one is a derivative. This is further supported by the fact that these two drugs are very different.
2:42, i dont think esctasy is dangerous... if it was legal and sold in shops it would be safe, their woouldnt be poison or anything thrown in with it. you could warn your of any alergies ect. then it could be kept under control and more people might not die due to the harmfull subtances inside the steert made, also drug dealers would lose money...
@spursfan112 Lets see...The other drugs people don't take as much as they do weed...and if your high all the time its not good...it would be better to use something that was less addictive and use it for fun and not to just sit down and do nothing...Don't get me wrong i love weed but i think people abuse it.But its rare to see people abuse ecstasy or LSD.But yes i don't think it should be #20
@12345ISIS12345 Weed can cause paranoia and anxiety only in large doses which is very rare, and there have been barely any schizaphrenia problems with weed! Hope I spelled it right lol!
Lol they gave them an 80 mg dose xtc ? :P They probably ain't even gonna feel that unless they're sensative to MDMA. My record is 1200 mg in one night xD But heey it's only number 18 on the list so it doesn't matter :D
stupid motherfucker, its due ppl like you drugs have such a bad reputation. If you use drugs, then do it good. fucking stupid headless asshole. Or your mdma is bad quality.
@almostskater3210 ecstacy does damage to your brain in the long term and if you drink a lot(of any substance)in combination with ecstacy you can get into a coma
There is no evidence that it causes long term damage. There are no studies in humans testing that.
If MDMA is used moderately and safely with a good pre/post load regime, hydration, food and rest, it causes no damage. The neurotoxicity in rats is also prevented by a dose of an SSRI a few hours after dosing, or a high dose of an antioxidant like alpha lipoic acid. If you drink too much of any drink at any time you can die, not only while on E.
OK check it out. Damage from ecstasy is caused by serotonin stores being depleted and replaced by oxidized dopamine causing oxidative stress leading to nerve cell axon loss/damage. Another idea is that MDMA is metabolized into a toxic quinoid leading to eventually inactivating the tryptophan hydroxylase, which is necessary in the synthesis of 5-ht also resulting in the damage of cellular proteins and lipids (nerve cell axon damage). Only when around 50% of said axons in the
serotonergic system are damaged is cognitive impairment noticeable. Depression is not long lasting and is the result of serotonin depletion/ possible TPH damage. Besides after a year of being abstinent from ecstasy, there is no difference between someone who had never taken it (I'm not considering users who use multiple times a week here; that is pure abuse just like alcohol can cause sclerosis/failure of the liver and brain shrinkage) Do you have any sources on the
This needs alot of science applied to it, this is good they are doing a detailed discussion about this. Drugs has drasticly different effects but people often use it as a crutch.
This is the most ludicrous thing ive ever veiwed! Ecstacy is #18!?!?! These people dont realize that anything that can cause an overdose should be considered more dangerous than a flowering weed like marijuana! If marijuana was judged as it should be (less dangerous than alcohol in my opinion) it would be #18! Ive seen the effect of almost all of these drugs and been in a family with alcoholics. weed is the lesser of all these. Dont let the television lie to you for the government!
Dude... the LD50 of MDMA is at lowest around 4 grams and at highest around 12 grams... that's pretty fucking hard to overdose. you can OD on water but I wouldn't call it more dangerous than weed.
@deabrat you get amnesia of cannabis ,believe me I know :) You do not really become addicted but it influences the thinking process .You simply care no more about notting . And only want to be left alone. fysically its the best of the 3 ( not mutch side effects ) but i have doubts about the mental inpackt if you use it regularly. As with most things too much is too much. If you want to use it then think carefully and try too limit the use :) Have a good one meanwhile
@deabrat - Well, not really. Cigarettes & alcohol definitely cause more harm, but cannabis isn't virtually harmless. Its one of the conclusions of the program.
Whys the research needed.. Abuse of anything. Will result in obvious side effects. People who get addicted do it day to day for a year+ before these things happen. The kids I know who abused it I promise their brains arent ever gonna be the same.
Whys the research needed.. Abuse of anything. Will result in obvious side effects. People who get addicted do it day to day for a year+ before these things happen. The kids I know who abused it I promise their brains arent even gonna be the same.
@massdbass96 ooooooohhhhhhhhh meth seems like it should be way up there on a lot of lists. it seems to fuck people's life up more than certain hard drugs
@garrett92895 I think it should be lower but not that low. This is based on scientific comparison not to make something seem not that bad. Cannabis isn't a hazard free drug it can cause paranoer quite often in long term users and schizaphrenier (sorry about the spelling) in vulnerable people but it should definately be about 15/16 on the list because the schizaphrenear is very rare and most drugs are a lot more hazardous.
@diskize lol, but it does cause paranoia, it's either this episode or the cannabis episode of horizon where they say it effects this part of the brain because... Then it explains how it's connected to parnoia and how it can very rarely leed to schizophrenia.
the only paranoia that is brought on is caused by the fact that its illegal, and it wouldn't be there if it was legal, thats why it's a rubbish reason against legalisation. Marijuana prohibition produces paranoia, not marijuana.
@twinross4567 what a whole load of shit. It is proven that the effect it has on your mind brings on paranoir. Stealing doen't bring on paranoier and other more dangerous and illegal drugs don't so I don't see why cannabis would be an acception. What about the schizapharenia. Crimes don't bring on that. The psyciatric drug (cannabis) does.
@12345ISIS12345 Also I never said that crimes bring on schizophrenia, that's genetic. It does not cause schizophrenia it simply unlocks it if it's been in your family's history. People who have relatives that have schizophrenia I do suggest not to use marijuana but saying it causes it is just wrong.
@twinross4567 Have you ever shoplifted because if you have then I'll believe youabout it bringing on paranoier? But Paranoier can range from what other people think of you to thinking that someone (from your next door neighbor to the goverment) are plotting against you. Infact I am fairly sure that a good part of conspiracy theories come from paranoier. And yes, it being illegal can play a part in that but schizaphrenia is like a bigger paranoir so if it unlocks schizaphrenia (continue to next):
@twinross4567 after about 5 years of smoking with people who are sensative to it (which I meant I just worded my question wrong) the chances are people who are sensative to it have it brought on gradually and start off with paranoier first. Anither thing is if you go up to some random people in the street and say 'What is worse, Marijuana or alcohol?' a good proportion of the people (especially educated ones, not nessaserily intelligent but those who aren't ignorent of the truth) will say yes...
@twinross4567 ...so most people who think marijuana is worse won't care if you are stoned. The one's who are ignorant of taking it, or ignorant of it, will probably just assume that the person is drunk, not stoned. I myself havn't taken it so I have to admit I would probably just assume they were drunk. Even then, if they were stoned I would actually be relieved that they weren't destroying their liver or at risk of getting alcohol poisening. I'm sure on the horizon episode about cannabis...
@twinross4567 ...though, it said that long term use can increase the risk of schizaphrenia by about 2% & I know it's not a lot, but it still is a risk which means that cannabis is not a harm free or risk free drug & it can ruin people's lives. What I must add though i that if I were to choose whether alcohol or cannabis were legal I wouldn't hesitate in saying cannabis because it is certanately a lot more risk free (health wise) then alcohol. May I just add I have no idea how to use spell-check.
@12345ISIS12345 long term use only increase the risk of schizaphrenia if your pre disposed to develop it anyway. I dont think thats anything compared to other things they talk about like solvents and heroin etc. Its only put down because the alcohol and ciggarette industry are paying the goverment off to keep it and hemp swept under the rug. it is a class one drug in america right next to heroin and i think people need to stop and relalize how much out there is a complete lie. ridiculous.
@RickyBrant15 I know that it only unlocks schizaphrenia in people with it in their jeans but that doesn't hide the fact that it causes paranoier.I am not ignorant, I know that it is safer to roll a spliff every night then it is to take a glass of alcohol but that does NOT make cannabis risk free. There is someone who took it and within a few years of use they were suffering from anxiety attacks. However, I don't think alcohol is as dangerous as heroine because it is harder to overdose and...
@RickyBrant15 ...(this is in two parts, read other one first) only causes physical harm. Heroine causes mental and physical harm and can make you go mad after a few times of use. It is also much more addictive then alcohol and is easier to overdose on. That makes it more dangerous but does not hide the fact that alcohol is an increadibly dangerous drug. As for tobacco I'd rate it class B, there are people who have smoked sinse the age of ten but have not got cancer.
Alcohol is imo the most dangerous drug. It is a drug thats intoxication causes people to hurt others, whether it be by drunk driving, assault, domestic violence or FAS. It is also a pure toxin which causes stomach cancer and liver failure/damage. The addiction is described as worse than heroin and alcohol withdrawals can kill you. It also shrinks parts of the brain and can alter cell growth. Heroin is just expensive... alcohol is cheap.
@almostskater3210 I agree that it is dangerous but it is not the most dangerous drug. People who are stoned/high are just as likely to hurt another Human due to being high whilst driving or not being able to control their actions and domestically abusing ppl heroin withdrawal can kill you, it is very easy to overdos on heroin/cocain and long term use of either can lead to horrible long term health &psyciatric problems. People addicted to Heroin are willing to kill for it. and alcohol is worse?
Not at all. People driving drunk are MUCH MUCH MUCH more likely to get in an accident than someone high or abuse someone. That is just obvious; just look at the figures. heroin withdrawal CANNOT kill you unless you have preexisting medical problems which can cause complications with withdrawal. Alcohol withdrawal causes convulsions which can kill you. People who are addicted to alcohol will kill for it but you just don't notice it because it's SO FUCKING CHEAP.
heroin is not a toxin; alcohol is. * Number of alcoholic liver disease deaths: 14,406 * Number of alcohol-induced deaths, excluding accidents and homicides: 23,199
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) 33,808 people died in traffic crashes in 2009 in the United States (latest figures available), including an estimated 10,839 people who died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes. One third of all accidents were because of drunk drivers!
There are around 2,000 heroin related deaths per year. Guess what? If it were legal, like alcohol, deaths would drop sharply! Heroin cannot lead to long term health problems besides addiction (prove that it can! Give me sources). Heroin is involved in victimless deaths. There are victims to alcohol all the time, especially when looking at drunk driving.
@almostskater3210 It wouldn't drop, it would rise because more people would use it and your results are unbalanced. More people take alcohol then Heroin so of course there are going to be more alcohol related deaths & more people drunk while driving. & those are not very impressive figures, with the millions of people who live in the US & with millions taking alcohol it would take at least 1 000 000 alcohol related deaths per year to make me rethink. There is no such thing as a victimless death.
NOT AT ALL... get your facts straight. Google "netherlands heroin statistics" and look at the first page. Look at how heroin is used less in NL (same with marijuana). If it were legal, pure heroin would be accessible which means there would be no random powerful batches (a major cause of OD). Heroin would be cheaper (or free by prescription; just like alcohol got cheaper after prohibition) so there would be less property crime and other crime committed to obtain the drug.
If it were legal, needles would also be accessible and there could even be places where junkies go to shoot up and be monitored in case of OD like the facility in Canada or the myriad facilities in Europe. AIDS would go down. There is a victim less death; shooting black until you die is victim less (and stop nitpicking; my point is that only the user is hurt). Based on my calculations .04% of alcohol users makes up deaths by alcohol. The figure is .065% for heroin.
Like I said before, these are all victim less deaths. And think of how that number would drop if it became legal. Also, the whole black market for heroin, starting in the Middle East, would be wiped out and so would the crime involved in that black market. The dangers of heroin are OD and addiction. Alcohol has many, many more, including those
@almostskater3210 There is no such thing as a victimless death! There is no such thing. The person who dies is the victim even if they are also the villan. And I can't believe you're even talking about it being legal. It is a psychiatric drug that is highly addictive. And crimes involved in the black market are not crimes Heroin are resoncible for so it wouldn't make a difference. heroin deaths are higher then alcohol. there are less users of Heroin. The figures speak for themselves.
I gave you the exact percent of user/death ratio. Did you even see my other comments? The people who die because of heroin are the people who use it. So many COMPLETELY INNOCENT victims die because of alcohol related homicide, assault and drunk driving. I even gave you stats of other countries and how they relate to the US. it has been shown that legalizing drunks brings usage down (not up! this is shown in my statistics), lowers death rates, crime rates
AIDS rates, completely stops the violence regarding the black market (your right those deaths are irrelevant when talking about the dangers of the drug)and is just better in general! We have the right to choose what we put into our bodies.
@almostskater3210 Many innocent people die with Heroin related crime. Infact it would rise if it were legal because people wold be more free and open to use it. No-one is suspicious when they see someone go into another persons house with a glass of wine but with Heroin it is a different story. That would be why. The police would get there before they had time to get drunk and do something that they regret. Also, that argument means that anything could be legal...
Not very many people die in heroin related crime compared to other drugs actually. Plus, that crime comes from it being illegal. I don't think you get it. All the bad things you bring up from heroin use is because it's illegal. LOOK AT MY SOURCES. THEY SHOW THAT WHEN A DRUG IS LEGAL, USE DROPS. My argument does not mean anything should be legal. Obesity kills way more people than drugs so I think we should make mcdonalds illegal....
@almostskater3210 ...it is just like saying rape should be legal because the victims can decide who they get into a closed space with. Or that prostitution should be legal because people can choose who they can or can not sleep with. It is a stupid, invalid, bad argument and isn't sensible.
No it's not. That is terrible logic . During rape, the victim is FORCED to have sexual intercourse. When people do drugs, what is forced upon them? AND PROSTITUTION SHOULD BE LEGAL. It's legal all over the place which means they're tested for AIDS and treated properly, unlike street prostitutes who are often beaten or even killed. I don't think you looked at my sources. It shows that legalizing drugs takes away most of the problems associated with them.
@almostskater3210 Addiction is forced upon them from the drug itself, that is what is forced. It shouldn't be legal. Exploting yourself for money and having sex with someone is wrong. Sex should be about love and at the very least should be free. It is not enjoyable for the prostitutes and is usually only performed by desperate people who don't enjoy it. And Macdonalds is not the slightest bit addictive. Heroin is addictive and is a serious psyciatric drug.
They choose to take the drug in the first place knowing that it could lead to addiction and drugs are not a necessary part of life so they could very well completely cast aside the risk by never trying it in the first place. The drug can't be responsible it doesn't have a brain. Fuck, don't make me explain that any more. You know what I'm talking about.
Then make alcohol, cigarettes and benzos and all opiates illegal. And make weed, MDMA, PMA, Mushrooms, piperazine and LSD legal
@almostskater3210 The drug is responcible, yes it has no brain and it is not a force but the chemicals in the drug make the brain react in a certain way that leads to mental illness and addiction so the shemicals in the drug are responcible. And it is psyciatricm it can make people go Mad after a few goes at taking it. A substance can do more than one thing at the same time. Prostitution should be illegal, legalising it is encouraging it which is immoral and death is not the only danger...
haha psychiatric means its used in psychiatry you fucking idiot. I think you mean psychoactive. WTF chemicals in the drug? A drug is a chemical you fucking idiot. I know EXACTLY what causes addiction OK? It's when your body stops producing neurotransmitters because it is downregulating them do to using a drug which uses to much of them (in simple terms). Tell me, why is prostitution immoral? LSD does not make people go mad unless they are predisposed to psychosis.
@almostskater3210 Don't be so pedantic, you know what I mean And a drug is not a single chemical it has many different chemicals in. For wxample, Cannabis is a plant so is living, are we only a single chemical? NO! so cannabis isn't. It has THC and more than 400 other chemicals you idiot. And whatever explanation it has the drug still causes it. And prostitution is immoral because it is another form of rape. People take advantage of desperate people who are absaloutely skint.
Your right about cannabis but not heroin, coke, meth, alcohol, all benzos, all opiates (except opium), ketamine, PCP, DXM, 4-aco-dmt and most others are one chemical. Prostitution is not rape. Look up the definition of rape. Prostitution involves consent. Why is prostitution immoral anyway? Yes an unhealthy diet can literally make you go insane. When reading a comparison between muslim and christian doctors in the middle ages, it said how a diet based around mainly consuming
You don't get it do you? Having an unhealthy diet can make you go insane!!! Why don't we force people to eat healthily and exercise? Because its wrong!!! Just like preventing someone from putting a chemical in their body!
I have another question as well.... Do you think we should make alcohol and tobacco illegal? Does it matter if you think prostitution is immoral? HARM REDUCTION you fuck. There is prostitution even though it's illegal. I hope you know that.
@almostskater3210 And an unhealthy diet can't make you insane. It can lead to physical health problmes but not mental health, Drugs makes the goverment spend thousands of money on physical and mental health care because people take drugs that they know will kill them. And yes, Alcohol and tobacco should be illegal, they are dangerous and money is spent on Lung cancer and liver desieses that could be put to other uses if there wasn't as much health problems which is caused by alcohol.
mustard can cause insanity. If things that cause harm should be illegal, then why not fucking food? it doesnt make sense! at all! You just don't get my main point anyway. PEOPLE WILL USE DRUGS WHETHER THEY ARE ILLEGAL OR NOT BUT MAKING THEM LEGAL MAKES THEM SAFER SUPPORTED BY MY PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED SOURCES. That's it. Refute that point please.
We should have certain rights. And treating our body how we want should be one of them.I do drugs, enjoy them and have never had any type of problem with any at all. I have tried oxycodone, hydrocodone, temazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, magic mushrooms, LSD, 4-AcO-DMT, n,n DMT, salvia, DXM, cocaine, MDMA, zolpidem, diphenhydramine, marijuana, codeine, alcohol, nicotine and N2O. I know ALOT more about drugs then you probably ever will.Don't debates something you know NOTHING about
Junkies that can afford to eat, eat. I'm not saying H is good for you; I'm just saying I think alcohol is worse on society than any other drug. Knowledge is knowledge, OK? It doesn't change anything if I've used drugs. Should I know disregard everything that a man with a concussion has said? Or someone who had lead poisoning? And there are A LOT of incredibly smart people who used drugs. Are you going to disregard Shulgin? haha what a laugh
I have done a lot of research into neuropharmacology and understand the mechanisms behind drugs. I know what I'm doing to my body and do it responsibly. Drugs should be legal; I don't care if some people are morally against it.
@almostskater3210 Taking drugs isn't something to be proud of - I wouldn't be ashamed if I did it but I wouldn't be proud. Causing physical and mental harm to yourself is bad. And I don't think the users should be jailed but I think the dealers should. The users are only going to go back to their addiction after jail but the dealers actively promote the use of harmful substances. It is immoral and another form of manslaughter and should be illegal.
It's the users choice if he/she buys something and puts it in their body.So your saying that mcdonalds workers should be jailed for dealing harmful food?Or what about pharmaceutical companies who get people addicted to Oxycontin?You even said it for me "causing physical and mental harm to YOURSELF is bad." No one else causes that harm.You do.Cigarette and alcohol companies promote their drug more than ANY dealer. Do you think those drugs should be illegal? their owners jailed?
@almostskater3210 Okay then, how can mustard cause insanity? And IF it does why aren't I insane and what chances of insanity does it have? I don't think mustard makes you insane that is just stupid, you have no evidence or proof to back yourself up. And amking it legal makes more people use it and it also encourages them to. I'm not going to reply to your next comment because I can't be botherd to argue and I have better things to do then join an argument that no side will win.
And it's not psychiatric haha. It's a pain killer. Oh and now I can see why I have to take everything you say with a grain of salt. You say "Exploiting yourself... is wrong" Why should I care what your morals are about sex? The fact is prostitution will exist whether its legal or not. Making it LEGAL makes it SAFER. Less crime, less death, less disease. Even if I thought it was wrong (which I don't) I would still think it should be legal for HARM REDUCTION.
i think when they say ecstasy they should really say mdma
n0m4xx 1 month ago
@n0m4xx Agreed. Or at least Molly if they want to stick with street names.
hellbrainsx 1 month ago
This is a study done by scientists who have legit medical credentials. Ecstasy does not equal MDMA. Ecstasy is mixed MDMA with random shit. If you get some cut shit and get brain damage, don't blame the drug, blame the dealer for cutting it. Before you start telling everyone how MDMA kills brain cells, read studies about it. Go on PubMed or MAPS and provide scientific proof: Residual neurocognitive features of long-term ecstasy users with minimal exposure to other drugs. Read it and then talk.
asdfasdfsadfasdfafsd 2 months ago
@asdfasdfsadfasdfafsd now i sort of agree with you here , hold on dont get excited its the crap ppl cut drugs with to make more money, how would i know this well heavy use back in 90s till mid 2000s gives me some experince but hands on experince E OR MDMA is safer then hosre riding DRUGS WHEN USED CORRECTLY ARE GREAT but if abused they kill fact nott fiction. now take straINS OF WEED they have trebbled the power i mean thc levels to the extreme scarey ive been smoking 20yrs
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yTubeBlowsBigBalls 2 months ago
FUCK XTC you people are heavily misguided if you think this fucked up methamphetamine is safe, smoke trees and trip on psychedellics FUCK ECSTASY ITS VERY BAD FOR YOUR BRAIN, trust me
adamdude58 2 months ago
@adamdude58 I did ecstasy for 3 years, every weekend... Im completely healthy. I stopped doing that and smoking and drinking... Ill tell u smoking and drinking is WAY harsher on ur body.....
JDMelody 2 months ago
@adamdude58 ecstasy saved me from serious anxiety problems.
ceejaywt 2 months ago
@adamdude58
MDMA is not methamphetamine or anything like it; although it may posses some structural similarities, MDMA's biological resultant is uniquely different than its amphetamine cousin's. Think about it. H2O and H2O2 seem very similar, but one is caustic while the other is necessary to most life. And due to your ignorance of pharmacodynamics, I think it is safe to disregard your bold assertion backed up by absolutely nothing.
almostskater3210 4 weeks ago
Other drugs that are chemically similar to MDMA, such as MDA (methylenedioxyamphetamine, the parent drug of MDMA) and PMA (paramethoxyamphetamine, associated with fatalities in the United States and Australia),5 are sometimes sold as ecstasy. These drugs can be neurotoxic or create additional health risks to the user se it my not be e or xtc or mdma your buying ive just learnt some thing new the paramethoxyamphetamine wow what about DESOMOPRHINE in russia aka krocodil errm ???
uk7roomdaddy 3 weeks ago
@almostskater3210 its like methamphetamine just changing a few molcoules its like meow meow sold here in uk europe as plant food just cause some sicentist like yourself says its safe or dangerous doesnt mean it is , you may wonder why i am on your back 1 youve intelligence 2 lack experince though mybe your the cook from down street lmao , ill get my tick next time we meet no seroius you just think its mind or matter an its that simple or do i have you wrong
uk7roomdaddy 3 weeks ago
BAN FUKING ALCOHOL ITS A SHITTY BUZZ AN OAFS THINK THERE MIKE TYSON WHEN THERE PISSED. ECSTASY AN WEED ARE THE BEST DRUGS THERE IS
mcbassman 2 months ago 2
2muay thai kicks n a david nut butt
GunsonWilliams 2 months ago
@GunsonWilliams rahahahahahaha
mcbassman 2 months ago
holland xtc 280 MG
damsconoord 3 months ago
ok this i do actually beliefe that alcohol is worse than xtc but what i do not beliefe is what other videos are saying( alcohol worse than heroin and alchohol worse than crank) i mean the fuck
aawwmm 3 months ago
I damn well hope Ron Paul gets elected, he promises to legalize all drugs!
perfectxx100ify 4 months ago
there both f**king bad in there own way. both work differently and f**k you up. why compare???
Cobrasaturn360 4 months ago
this documentary is fucking retarded.. they rated meth number nine? and extacy may have a low death rate but that shit fucks your mind up hard.
bryanreize1 5 months ago
@bryanreize1 ..you kidding?
prejudicejew 4 months ago
@bryanreize1 you're joking right?
perfectxx100ify 4 months ago
@bryanreize1 I have never been confused or fucked up on MDMA as bad as I have been on alcohol. Go feed your propaganda somewhere else
Damaruth 4 months ago
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bryanreize1 3 months ago
@bryanreize1 I do M 3 times a year tops. You should google "david nut" and read about his team's reasearch on drugs. My brain is fine also
Damaruth 3 months ago
"The illegality of drugs make them dangerous"
I think that is the most idiotic thing being said about drugs...
Deel2506 5 months ago
@Deel2506 - No it isn't. The fact that drugs are illegal has meant that the production of drugs has gone into criminal hands. Than means drugs are now mixed with potentially lethal substances that are more harmful than the drugs themelves. The illegality has meant that drug users now struggle to get enough clean needles and so infection spreads easier than if it was spread sexually. Plus the black market is funding criminals to commit worse crimes than just dealing. The statement is true.
1990MattyD 5 months ago
@1990MattyD That is true. It was inevitable that drug manufacturing went into criminal hands. Drugs, the adulterants and the means of taking them are all dangerous. But would making drugs legal make them less dangerous? I think not. While that, thankfully, would not be done in the near future, there has been strides in this regard, such as providing sterile needles to heroin addicts. But such measures would not help. That junkie would still be a junkie and possibly spread the addiction to others
Deel2506 5 months ago
@Deel2506 - It will make them a hell of a lot safer, when you are putting only the pure materials into the drug and not lethal things you'd find in the cupboard under your sink. Providing clean needles will save the NHS millions, billions on the long term, and save thousands of lives. From the latest statistics, 79% of all heroin related deaths are due to infection. I know what I'm talking about, I studied Crime and Law at Edinburgh University and have had hands on experience with drugs myself.
1990MattyD 5 months ago
@1990MattyD Well, that might be right. It's similar to how alcohol was legalized, isn't it? And making alcohol illegal was the worst thing to happen since it increased crime. But alcohol is still dangerous to the human body. Drugs are much more dangerous than alcohol (not according to the documentary, but as a general outlook), legal or otherwise. While the legal nature of drugs can decrease the spreading of diseases, would the number of drug addicts go down?
Deel2506 5 months ago
@Deel2506 - I don't think you understand. Alchohol was never legalised - it was never made illegal! If it was made illegal, there would be a huge and destructive black market that millions of people will invest in, and this will cost the tax payer even more than any of the drug market put together! Same with tobacco. Alcohol is more dangerous than *some* drugs. Ecstasy, pot, mdma, relatively harmless next to alchohol.
1990MattyD 5 months ago
@1990MattyD Oh I am sorry. I had typed wrongly. I meant that alcohol was made illegal during Prohibition and it led to a lot of crime. So currently, drugs are illegal and there is lot of crime because of it. If it is made legal, it might not work the same way as "legal" alcohol. But I agree that there are harder drugs than alcohol.
Deel2506 5 months ago
@Deel2506 - Plus, if you want to cut down on the number of addicts, instead of locking them up into a prison where getting drugs is easy, we should be prescribing them clean drugs under a programme that lowers their drug use and defeats their addiction - like they have in Portugal (where possession is not a criminal offence, but illegal nonetheless) where they have seen the number of people seeking therapy double, and the number of those taking drugs decrease.
1990MattyD 5 months ago
@1990MattyD Cutting down on punitive actions and prescribing voluntary rehabilitation programs does look good, but it won't be very effective. Would the addicts come and join voluntarily? I bet 9 out of 10 won't come. So there goes the personal freedom aspect. But yes, depending on the severity of the type of drug (its schedule, addictiveness), sentencing drug addicts to such stringent rehab programs + community service, rather than prison, is truly better.
Deel2506 5 months ago
@Deel2506 - If you read carefully - Portugal have seen the number of people seeking therapy double, plus, instead of imprisoning them, make it compulsory for caught drug users to go on rehabilitaion programmes. If not, at least then they have the clear option to get clean needles and advice on the safe delivery of the drug. Regarding what you said about "9 out of 10 won't come", I disagree, considering that the overwhelming majority of all drug users wish they could stop.
1990MattyD 4 months ago
@Deel2506 Probably not but would the criminal industry go down? Would addict prostitution and crime go down? Yes.
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AlexeiDmitri 6 months ago
wow this shits crazy!! i didnt think ecstasy was that dangerous, but i definitely didnt realize it was that safe in comparison to other drugs. this just goes to show u can hardly ever believe what the mainstream media or the government tells u. Theres actually a documentary a friend told me about I really want to watch called "Programming the Nation?" Apparently its all about how the government and the media control the masses via subliminal messages and advertisements... Scary!!
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gabby6488 6 months ago
If pot were legal, I never would have become an alcoholic.
StarryKid06 6 months ago 7
@StarryKid06 now pot is ok when you dont fuck about with THC levels as ive been smoking hashih gangja pot about 22 yrs but in lasst 7 yrs its got twice as strong potent this makes your buzz bad also i think creates mental problems like paranoia pycoshis etc so pot anit that safe mate pls plus ppl put tabaco in it lmao more poisons
uk7roomdaddy 3 weeks ago
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girlhitsbus 6 months ago
The most dangerous thing about ecstasy pills? Not knowing what they're cut with. Who's fault is that? The government. If they were legal people could get pure mdma and not have to worry. But nope...wanna make chocolate illegal next? I heard it clogs your arteries and too much daily sugar can lead to diabetes in the future...right? How many years do I have to wait until it's a class A drug? Should I stock up now? What a joke.
XPrettyXSceneXGirl 7 months ago 3
@XPrettyXSceneXGirl
I agree. Exctasy isn't even really a drug in it self now. Since E pills can now have almost any drug under the sun but now almost never MDMA :(
Now it's usually substituted cathiniones and piperazines
mewrox99 7 months ago
@mewrox99 I know right. :/
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lol alcohol. ritalin/caffaine/cacao ftw! I need focus stim not a Tranquilizer stim. I mean really if you got Adult ADHD the wrong stim can be really damaging I don't know why they have alcohol everywhere It doesn't have any useful function just plain annoying
lordmarcus1st 7 months ago
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lordmarcus1st 7 months ago
- if it isn't liberty it isn't worth arguing in favor of , period.
I hate discrimination against people that are not harming others. You have the right to self injure, assuming that which is not self injury IS self injury is called fascism..... the only crimes are crimes against others, driving IMPAIRED ( not altered, IMPAIRED ) , hurting people, killing, stealing, these are crimes, being a Jew or taking ecstasy is the same thing, freedom of religion, and 1st amendment rights. xcept circumbad
sunlightblessing 7 months ago
"He that would trade liberty for security will have and deserves neither." - Franklin
and its only the liar that makes tyranny seem reasonable, by amplifying fears. people are allowed to go skiing, more dangerous to ski than use ecstasy once a month.
sunlightblessing 7 months ago
now listen, if someone isn't arguing for liberty they are a victim of mind control through the media and authority, it does not matter what the science of anything is, prescription medications are shit, they are worthless, they do nto cure anything, they are costly, and they kill 100,000 a year, whereas hard drugs do not kill anywhere near that many, in fact only alcohol kills that many.
LIBERTY NOT PROHIBITION. liberty means drive sober enough to be a good driver.
sunlightblessing 7 months ago
because sarbinox has pleixgons and plexigons cause sarbawoes to rise to 32, therefore, we must punish people and take away their sovereignty dignity ......
the language of liars corrupt to the core, no matter what science says, no matter what something is, liberty is the key , not prohbition.
adults can decide, children cannot get stuff from shops, because they'd have to produce an ID showing they are of age, problem of drugs solved, addiction aint no problem, let addicts addict
sunlightblessing 7 months ago
because only by banning all forms of liberty can we be free .... that is the true meaning of freedom, do unto others as you would have them not do unto you , because others are a threat
YOU ARE ALLOWED TO DO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO YOURSELF IF YOU AREN'T DRIVING WHILE DOING IT, period.
sunlightblessing 7 months ago
black people can harm people, lets put them in jail
white people can harm people, lets put them in jail
cats can harm people, lets put them in jail
asians can harm people, lets put them in jail
this message of truth brought you by some sort of collection of letters, such as NIST.... who makes science roll over in its grave.
sunlightblessing 7 months ago
dude... no one has ever died from THC
ugh"legalize?"ugh
DirtyShamanism 7 months ago
i just got arrested for having some mdma on me, harmed no one and enjoy the beautiful experience of it raving with my bro's and now i'm a bad person apparently
joshwilsk 7 months ago
big rise in cannabis users going to hospitals?? LIES
CrazedTeenz 8 months ago
Caffeine - the real gateway drug
Rnexen 8 months ago 31
@Rnexen caffeine doesnt kill people, nor does marijuana....while the biggest killers by far are legal, first cigarettes, then alcohol....just shows how the government runs (ruins) things
ITILII 5 months ago
How can ecstasy, a relatively safe drug (much safer than alcohol or tobacco) be in the same class as highly addictive substances that can seriously change your perception of things and easily ruin your life, like cocain and heroin??
harrison210993 8 months ago 2
U need to find people on the internet who had the same experience as u did if u want some real good advice, and if u look good, u will find it. I don't want to bad talk psychiatrists and psychologists but 95% can't help u.
pyromaniaknl 8 months ago
It is harddrugs, it arises your emotions stronger than usually. It also depends on the person, traumatic experiences and such only will be worse. In that case it's a priority to stay sober, only sober your able to deal with it, also no pharmaceutical drugs that's practicly the same. Plus it gives u heart problems and weakens your immuum system. It's just a profit system, they don't give a fuck....
pyromaniaknl 8 months ago
From my own expirience i must say that alcohol for me was is worse then everything i used. Alcohol (when used dayly in a high amount) physical your body doesnt accept any vitamins u eat, u shit it all out. Mentally your memory chances like a 80 year old person as does your motoric system. Plus a delusional awareness of everything around u, dissociative thoughts; the lights are on but nobody is at home....U only feel normal again with alcohol, and u need more and more. 15 beers amd i felled sober
pyromaniaknl 8 months ago
Alcohol when used daily is one of the most addicting and dangerous drugs in the world, the withdrawals are also fucking HORRIBLE. But hey the gov had to keep something legal to make some extra money.
TheHoffmanHouse 8 months ago
@TheHoffmanHouse Alcohol was actually banned in the US Constitution, but the Amendment was repealed because during the Prohibition, people still bought it, which encouraged crime. Alcohol was an illegal drug sold by criminals like Al Capone. Repealing the ban was meant to reduce organized crime.
qwexas 8 months ago
Poppers & MDMA less dangerous than marijuana? That's the kind of nonsense you get when scientists talk out their arses rather than listening to human experiences. Hoffman would laugh at their foolishness. They said themselves that poppers can be fatal if swallowed - that alone is far more dangerous than marijuana. MDMA can down-regulate serotonin levels, in addition to being an amphetamine derivative that can destroy one's teeth, Again, worse than pot.
GoreyFantod 8 months ago
@GoreyFantod
But people don't swallow poppers... you can choke and die on food, but i wouldn't call food more harmful than marijuana... MDMA cannot destroy ones teeth.... its not an amphetamine derivative; its a substituted methylenedioxyphenethylamine. Not saying your not right but still
almostskater3210 8 months ago
@almostskater3210 MD"MA"= MethAmphetamine.
jakeolthof 7 months ago
@jakeolthof
So what? H2O2 has H2O in it but ones caustic and the other is necessary for human life. I can tell you are not a chemist or have any knowledge at all about chemical engineering and drug design but just because a chemical contains a similar structure does not mean at all that they are alike or that one is a derivative. This is further supported by the fact that these two drugs are very different.
almostskater3210 7 months ago
2:42, i dont think esctasy is dangerous... if it was legal and sold in shops it would be safe, their woouldnt be poison or anything thrown in with it. you could warn your of any alergies ect. then it could be kept under control and more people might not die due to the harmfull subtances inside the steert made, also drug dealers would lose money...
tifftigershark 9 months ago
weed shud be at the bottom!
spursfan112 9 months ago
@spursfan112 No it shouldn't
demonxthedk 8 months ago
@demonxthedk Well, how are you the one that knows everything?
spursfan112 8 months ago
@spursfan112 Lets see...The other drugs people don't take as much as they do weed...and if your high all the time its not good...it would be better to use something that was less addictive and use it for fun and not to just sit down and do nothing...Don't get me wrong i love weed but i think people abuse it.But its rare to see people abuse ecstasy or LSD.But yes i don't think it should be #20
demonxthedk 8 months ago
@spursfan112 I don't think it should, khat is worse and you have to remember, in large doses weed does cause paranoir and can unlock schizaphrenia.
12345ISIS12345 8 months ago
@12345ISIS12345 Weed can cause paranoia and anxiety only in large doses which is very rare, and there have been barely any schizaphrenia problems with weed! Hope I spelled it right lol!
spursfan112 8 months ago
@spursfan112 lol i got paranoia and anxiety from marijuana aha but is mild, i haven't smoked marijuana in a while but i wanna get back to it
tadanorm 8 months ago
You go first.
HLecterPHD 9 months ago
All I know is they need to ban Cake, and fast. One girl on it puked up her own pelvis bone. What a fucking disgrace.
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tobqymaahy3713 10 months ago
Lol they gave them an 80 mg dose xtc ? :P They probably ain't even gonna feel that unless they're sensative to MDMA. My record is 1200 mg in one night xD But heey it's only number 18 on the list so it doesn't matter :D
HemaFTW 10 months ago
@HemaFTW
stupid motherfucker, its due ppl like you drugs have such a bad reputation. If you use drugs, then do it good. fucking stupid headless asshole. Or your mdma is bad quality.
Sublimoo 9 months ago
@DrunkenLeprechaunPro 'Heroin' by Velvet Underground
mariansobituary 11 months ago
hahahaaaaa true say at 2:09 brother! like when Keith Richards said "i've never had problems with drugs.. i've had problems with the POLICE.."
mariansobituary 11 months ago
What's the song at the beginning of the documentary? It's bloody awesome!!
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12345ISIS12345 11 months ago
you cant make scientific scale for drugs.
Smoking for a year does less damage then taking XTC daily.
StarOfFortune 11 months ago
@StarOfFortune Taking anything (even sugar) daily is pretty bad for you......
cyanide444 11 months ago
@cyanide444 then society would collapse.
You cant compare the long term effects of things like sugar with the state a heroin junkie or heavy alcoholic is in.
StarOfFortune 11 months ago
@StarOfFortune
But it's virtually impossible to abuse ecstasy daily.
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@almostskater3210 ecstacy does damage to your brain in the long term and if you drink a lot(of any substance)in combination with ecstacy you can get into a coma
StarOfFortune 11 months ago
@StarOfFortune
There is no evidence that it causes long term damage. There are no studies in humans testing that.
If MDMA is used moderately and safely with a good pre/post load regime, hydration, food and rest, it causes no damage. The neurotoxicity in rats is also prevented by a dose of an SSRI a few hours after dosing, or a high dose of an antioxidant like alpha lipoic acid. If you drink too much of any drink at any time you can die, not only while on E.
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@almostskater3210 Drinking in combination with ectstacy has nothing to do with the effects of drinking so much that you can die.
Ecstacy abuse can cause depressions ,sleeping disorders and other neural damage.
If you use ecstacy in combination with drinking there is a high change you will get a sleeping disorder.
StarOfFortune 11 months ago
@StarOfFortune
OK check it out. Damage from ecstasy is caused by serotonin stores being depleted and replaced by oxidized dopamine causing oxidative stress leading to nerve cell axon loss/damage. Another idea is that MDMA is metabolized into a toxic quinoid leading to eventually inactivating the tryptophan hydroxylase, which is necessary in the synthesis of 5-ht also resulting in the damage of cellular proteins and lipids (nerve cell axon damage). Only when around 50% of said axons in the
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@StarOfFortune
serotonergic system are damaged is cognitive impairment noticeable. Depression is not long lasting and is the result of serotonin depletion/ possible TPH damage. Besides after a year of being abstinent from ecstasy, there is no difference between someone who had never taken it (I'm not considering users who use multiple times a week here; that is pure abuse just like alcohol can cause sclerosis/failure of the liver and brain shrinkage) Do you have any sources on the
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@StarOfFortune
drinking/ecstasy causing sleeping disorders? I'm not saying your wrong there; I'm just curious. I thought you were talking about drinking water.
almostskater3210 11 months ago
This proves that ecstasy needs to be legalized!!
6flakes 1 year ago
This needs alot of science applied to it, this is good they are doing a detailed discussion about this. Drugs has drasticly different effects but people often use it as a crutch.
RJL738 1 year ago
more people need to see this
sander395 1 year ago
This is the most ludicrous thing ive ever veiwed! Ecstacy is #18!?!?! These people dont realize that anything that can cause an overdose should be considered more dangerous than a flowering weed like marijuana! If marijuana was judged as it should be (less dangerous than alcohol in my opinion) it would be #18! Ive seen the effect of almost all of these drugs and been in a family with alcoholics. weed is the lesser of all these. Dont let the television lie to you for the government!
RickyBrant15 1 year ago
@RickyBrant15
Dude... the LD50 of MDMA is at lowest around 4 grams and at highest around 12 grams... that's pretty fucking hard to overdose. you can OD on water but I wouldn't call it more dangerous than weed.
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RickyBrant15 1 year ago
@deabrat you get amnesia of cannabis ,believe me I know :) You do not really become addicted but it influences the thinking process .You simply care no more about notting . And only want to be left alone. fysically its the best of the 3 ( not mutch side effects ) but i have doubts about the mental inpackt if you use it regularly. As with most things too much is too much. If you want to use it then think carefully and try too limit the use :) Have a good one meanwhile
galaxaone 1 year ago
the best drug is sports, try it!
Voielamankevat 1 year ago
@deabrat - Well, not really. Cigarettes & alcohol definitely cause more harm, but cannabis isn't virtually harmless. Its one of the conclusions of the program.
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unionationow 1 year ago
0:51 how bout some head on that beer eh?
stoltobot 1 year ago
Whys the research needed.. Abuse of anything. Will result in obvious side effects. People who get addicted do it day to day for a year+ before these things happen. The kids I know who abused it I promise their brains arent ever gonna be the same.
7thSiign 1 year ago
Whys the research needed.. Abuse of anything. Will result in obvious side effects. People who get addicted do it day to day for a year+ before these things happen. The kids I know who abused it I promise their brains arent even gonna be the same.
7thSiign 1 year ago
This would be a good movie but placing weed at 11th totally ruins the validity of it. PLUS meth isn't even on here
garrett92895 1 year ago
@garrett92895 they put Amphetamines in plural....meth is a type amphetamine (methamphetamine)
massdbass96 1 year ago
@massdbass96 ooooooohhhhhhhhh meth seems like it should be way up there on a lot of lists. it seems to fuck people's life up more than certain hard drugs
garrett92895 1 year ago
@garrett92895 why? do you think weed should be higher or lower? personally I think that it should be lower.
12345ISIS12345 1 year ago
@12345ISIS12345 lower. i think it should be on the list but it should be #20 that way people realize its not so bad.
garrett92895 1 year ago
@garrett92895 I think it should be lower but not that low. This is based on scientific comparison not to make something seem not that bad. Cannabis isn't a hazard free drug it can cause paranoer quite often in long term users and schizaphrenier (sorry about the spelling) in vulnerable people but it should definately be about 15/16 on the list because the schizaphrenear is very rare and most drugs are a lot more hazardous.
12345ISIS12345 1 year ago
@12345ISIS12345 cannabis doesn't cause paranoia, they really are watching me!
diskize 1 year ago
@diskize lol, but it does cause paranoia, it's either this episode or the cannabis episode of horizon where they say it effects this part of the brain because... Then it explains how it's connected to parnoia and how it can very rarely leed to schizophrenia.
12345ISIS12345 1 year ago
@12345ISIS12345
the only paranoia that is brought on is caused by the fact that its illegal, and it wouldn't be there if it was legal, thats why it's a rubbish reason against legalisation. Marijuana prohibition produces paranoia, not marijuana.
twinross4567 1 year ago
@twinross4567 what a whole load of shit. It is proven that the effect it has on your mind brings on paranoir. Stealing doen't bring on paranoier and other more dangerous and illegal drugs don't so I don't see why cannabis would be an acception. What about the schizapharenia. Crimes don't bring on that. The psyciatric drug (cannabis) does.
12345ISIS12345 1 year ago
@12345ISIS12345 Also I never said that crimes bring on schizophrenia, that's genetic. It does not cause schizophrenia it simply unlocks it if it's been in your family's history. People who have relatives that have schizophrenia I do suggest not to use marijuana but saying it causes it is just wrong.
twinross4567 1 year ago
@twinross4567 Have you ever shoplifted because if you have then I'll believe youabout it bringing on paranoier? But Paranoier can range from what other people think of you to thinking that someone (from your next door neighbor to the goverment) are plotting against you. Infact I am fairly sure that a good part of conspiracy theories come from paranoier. And yes, it being illegal can play a part in that but schizaphrenia is like a bigger paranoir so if it unlocks schizaphrenia (continue to next):
12345ISIS12345 1 year ago
@twinross4567 after about 5 years of smoking with people who are sensative to it (which I meant I just worded my question wrong) the chances are people who are sensative to it have it brought on gradually and start off with paranoier first. Anither thing is if you go up to some random people in the street and say 'What is worse, Marijuana or alcohol?' a good proportion of the people (especially educated ones, not nessaserily intelligent but those who aren't ignorent of the truth) will say yes...
12345ISIS12345 1 year ago
@twinross4567 ...so most people who think marijuana is worse won't care if you are stoned. The one's who are ignorant of taking it, or ignorant of it, will probably just assume that the person is drunk, not stoned. I myself havn't taken it so I have to admit I would probably just assume they were drunk. Even then, if they were stoned I would actually be relieved that they weren't destroying their liver or at risk of getting alcohol poisening. I'm sure on the horizon episode about cannabis...
12345ISIS12345 1 year ago
@twinross4567 ...though, it said that long term use can increase the risk of schizaphrenia by about 2% & I know it's not a lot, but it still is a risk which means that cannabis is not a harm free or risk free drug & it can ruin people's lives. What I must add though i that if I were to choose whether alcohol or cannabis were legal I wouldn't hesitate in saying cannabis because it is certanately a lot more risk free (health wise) then alcohol. May I just add I have no idea how to use spell-check.
12345ISIS12345 1 year ago
@12345ISIS12345 long term use only increase the risk of schizaphrenia if your pre disposed to develop it anyway. I dont think thats anything compared to other things they talk about like solvents and heroin etc. Its only put down because the alcohol and ciggarette industry are paying the goverment off to keep it and hemp swept under the rug. it is a class one drug in america right next to heroin and i think people need to stop and relalize how much out there is a complete lie. ridiculous.
RickyBrant15 1 year ago
@RickyBrant15 I know that it only unlocks schizaphrenia in people with it in their jeans but that doesn't hide the fact that it causes paranoier.I am not ignorant, I know that it is safer to roll a spliff every night then it is to take a glass of alcohol but that does NOT make cannabis risk free. There is someone who took it and within a few years of use they were suffering from anxiety attacks. However, I don't think alcohol is as dangerous as heroine because it is harder to overdose and...
12345ISIS12345 1 year ago
@RickyBrant15 ...(this is in two parts, read other one first) only causes physical harm. Heroine causes mental and physical harm and can make you go mad after a few times of use. It is also much more addictive then alcohol and is easier to overdose on. That makes it more dangerous but does not hide the fact that alcohol is an increadibly dangerous drug. As for tobacco I'd rate it class B, there are people who have smoked sinse the age of ten but have not got cancer.
12345ISIS12345 1 year ago
@12345ISIS12345
Alcohol is imo the most dangerous drug. It is a drug thats intoxication causes people to hurt others, whether it be by drunk driving, assault, domestic violence or FAS. It is also a pure toxin which causes stomach cancer and liver failure/damage. The addiction is described as worse than heroin and alcohol withdrawals can kill you. It also shrinks parts of the brain and can alter cell growth. Heroin is just expensive... alcohol is cheap.
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@almostskater3210 I agree that it is dangerous but it is not the most dangerous drug. People who are stoned/high are just as likely to hurt another Human due to being high whilst driving or not being able to control their actions and domestically abusing ppl heroin withdrawal can kill you, it is very easy to overdos on heroin/cocain and long term use of either can lead to horrible long term health &psyciatric problems. People addicted to Heroin are willing to kill for it. and alcohol is worse?
12345ISIS12345 11 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
Not at all. People driving drunk are MUCH MUCH MUCH more likely to get in an accident than someone high or abuse someone. That is just obvious; just look at the figures. heroin withdrawal CANNOT kill you unless you have preexisting medical problems which can cause complications with withdrawal. Alcohol withdrawal causes convulsions which can kill you. People who are addicted to alcohol will kill for it but you just don't notice it because it's SO FUCKING CHEAP.
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
heroin is not a toxin; alcohol is. * Number of alcoholic liver disease deaths: 14,406 * Number of alcohol-induced deaths, excluding accidents and homicides: 23,199
According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) 33,808 people died in traffic crashes in 2009 in the United States (latest figures available), including an estimated 10,839 people who died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes. One third of all accidents were because of drunk drivers!
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
There are around 2,000 heroin related deaths per year. Guess what? If it were legal, like alcohol, deaths would drop sharply! Heroin cannot lead to long term health problems besides addiction (prove that it can! Give me sources). Heroin is involved in victimless deaths. There are victims to alcohol all the time, especially when looking at drunk driving.
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@almostskater3210 It wouldn't drop, it would rise because more people would use it and your results are unbalanced. More people take alcohol then Heroin so of course there are going to be more alcohol related deaths & more people drunk while driving. & those are not very impressive figures, with the millions of people who live in the US & with millions taking alcohol it would take at least 1 000 000 alcohol related deaths per year to make me rethink. There is no such thing as a victimless death.
12345ISIS12345 11 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
NOT AT ALL... get your facts straight. Google "netherlands heroin statistics" and look at the first page. Look at how heroin is used less in NL (same with marijuana). If it were legal, pure heroin would be accessible which means there would be no random powerful batches (a major cause of OD). Heroin would be cheaper (or free by prescription; just like alcohol got cheaper after prohibition) so there would be less property crime and other crime committed to obtain the drug.
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
If it were legal, needles would also be accessible and there could even be places where junkies go to shoot up and be monitored in case of OD like the facility in Canada or the myriad facilities in Europe. AIDS would go down. There is a victim less death; shooting black until you die is victim less (and stop nitpicking; my point is that only the user is hurt). Based on my calculations .04% of alcohol users makes up deaths by alcohol. The figure is .065% for heroin.
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
Like I said before, these are all victim less deaths. And think of how that number would drop if it became legal. Also, the whole black market for heroin, starting in the Middle East, would be wiped out and so would the crime involved in that black market. The dangers of heroin are OD and addiction. Alcohol has many, many more, including those
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@almostskater3210 There is no such thing as a victimless death! There is no such thing. The person who dies is the victim even if they are also the villan. And I can't believe you're even talking about it being legal. It is a psychiatric drug that is highly addictive. And crimes involved in the black market are not crimes Heroin are resoncible for so it wouldn't make a difference. heroin deaths are higher then alcohol. there are less users of Heroin. The figures speak for themselves.
12345ISIS12345 11 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
I gave you the exact percent of user/death ratio. Did you even see my other comments? The people who die because of heroin are the people who use it. So many COMPLETELY INNOCENT victims die because of alcohol related homicide, assault and drunk driving. I even gave you stats of other countries and how they relate to the US. it has been shown that legalizing drunks brings usage down (not up! this is shown in my statistics), lowers death rates, crime rates
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
AIDS rates, completely stops the violence regarding the black market (your right those deaths are irrelevant when talking about the dangers of the drug)and is just better in general! We have the right to choose what we put into our bodies.
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@almostskater3210 Many innocent people die with Heroin related crime. Infact it would rise if it were legal because people wold be more free and open to use it. No-one is suspicious when they see someone go into another persons house with a glass of wine but with Heroin it is a different story. That would be why. The police would get there before they had time to get drunk and do something that they regret. Also, that argument means that anything could be legal...
12345ISIS12345 11 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
Not very many people die in heroin related crime compared to other drugs actually. Plus, that crime comes from it being illegal. I don't think you get it. All the bad things you bring up from heroin use is because it's illegal. LOOK AT MY SOURCES. THEY SHOW THAT WHEN A DRUG IS LEGAL, USE DROPS. My argument does not mean anything should be legal. Obesity kills way more people than drugs so I think we should make mcdonalds illegal....
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@almostskater3210 ...it is just like saying rape should be legal because the victims can decide who they get into a closed space with. Or that prostitution should be legal because people can choose who they can or can not sleep with. It is a stupid, invalid, bad argument and isn't sensible.
12345ISIS12345 11 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
No it's not. That is terrible logic . During rape, the victim is FORCED to have sexual intercourse. When people do drugs, what is forced upon them? AND PROSTITUTION SHOULD BE LEGAL. It's legal all over the place which means they're tested for AIDS and treated properly, unlike street prostitutes who are often beaten or even killed. I don't think you looked at my sources. It shows that legalizing drugs takes away most of the problems associated with them.
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@almostskater3210 Addiction is forced upon them from the drug itself, that is what is forced. It shouldn't be legal. Exploting yourself for money and having sex with someone is wrong. Sex should be about love and at the very least should be free. It is not enjoyable for the prostitutes and is usually only performed by desperate people who don't enjoy it. And Macdonalds is not the slightest bit addictive. Heroin is addictive and is a serious psyciatric drug.
12345ISIS12345 11 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
They choose to take the drug in the first place knowing that it could lead to addiction and drugs are not a necessary part of life so they could very well completely cast aside the risk by never trying it in the first place. The drug can't be responsible it doesn't have a brain. Fuck, don't make me explain that any more. You know what I'm talking about.
Then make alcohol, cigarettes and benzos and all opiates illegal. And make weed, MDMA, PMA, Mushrooms, piperazine and LSD legal
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@almostskater3210 The drug is responcible, yes it has no brain and it is not a force but the chemicals in the drug make the brain react in a certain way that leads to mental illness and addiction so the shemicals in the drug are responcible. And it is psyciatricm it can make people go Mad after a few goes at taking it. A substance can do more than one thing at the same time. Prostitution should be illegal, legalising it is encouraging it which is immoral and death is not the only danger...
12345ISIS12345 11 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
haha psychiatric means its used in psychiatry you fucking idiot. I think you mean psychoactive. WTF chemicals in the drug? A drug is a chemical you fucking idiot. I know EXACTLY what causes addiction OK? It's when your body stops producing neurotransmitters because it is downregulating them do to using a drug which uses to much of them (in simple terms). Tell me, why is prostitution immoral? LSD does not make people go mad unless they are predisposed to psychosis.
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@almostskater3210 Don't be so pedantic, you know what I mean And a drug is not a single chemical it has many different chemicals in. For wxample, Cannabis is a plant so is living, are we only a single chemical? NO! so cannabis isn't. It has THC and more than 400 other chemicals you idiot. And whatever explanation it has the drug still causes it. And prostitution is immoral because it is another form of rape. People take advantage of desperate people who are absaloutely skint.
12345ISIS12345 10 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
Your right about cannabis but not heroin, coke, meth, alcohol, all benzos, all opiates (except opium), ketamine, PCP, DXM, 4-aco-dmt and most others are one chemical. Prostitution is not rape. Look up the definition of rape. Prostitution involves consent. Why is prostitution immoral anyway? Yes an unhealthy diet can literally make you go insane. When reading a comparison between muslim and christian doctors in the middle ages, it said how a diet based around mainly consuming
almostskater3210 10 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
You don't get it do you? Having an unhealthy diet can make you go insane!!! Why don't we force people to eat healthily and exercise? Because its wrong!!! Just like preventing someone from putting a chemical in their body!
I have another question as well.... Do you think we should make alcohol and tobacco illegal? Does it matter if you think prostitution is immoral? HARM REDUCTION you fuck. There is prostitution even though it's illegal. I hope you know that.
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@almostskater3210 how many people that eat are junkies?
StarOfFortune 10 months ago
@almostskater3210 And an unhealthy diet can't make you insane. It can lead to physical health problmes but not mental health, Drugs makes the goverment spend thousands of money on physical and mental health care because people take drugs that they know will kill them. And yes, Alcohol and tobacco should be illegal, they are dangerous and money is spent on Lung cancer and liver desieses that could be put to other uses if there wasn't as much health problems which is caused by alcohol.
12345ISIS12345 10 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
mustard can cause insanity. If things that cause harm should be illegal, then why not fucking food? it doesnt make sense! at all! You just don't get my main point anyway. PEOPLE WILL USE DRUGS WHETHER THEY ARE ILLEGAL OR NOT BUT MAKING THEM LEGAL MAKES THEM SAFER SUPPORTED BY MY PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED SOURCES. That's it. Refute that point please.
almostskater3210 10 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
We should have certain rights. And treating our body how we want should be one of them.I do drugs, enjoy them and have never had any type of problem with any at all. I have tried oxycodone, hydrocodone, temazepam, diazepam, alprazolam, magic mushrooms, LSD, 4-AcO-DMT, n,n DMT, salvia, DXM, cocaine, MDMA, zolpidem, diphenhydramine, marijuana, codeine, alcohol, nicotine and N2O. I know ALOT more about drugs then you probably ever will.Don't debates something you know NOTHING about
almostskater3210 11 months ago
@almostskater3210 your brain may have been damaged by your drug use ,so your knowledge is questionable.
StarOfFortune 10 months ago
@StarOfFortune
Do you want sources for everything?
Junkies that can afford to eat, eat. I'm not saying H is good for you; I'm just saying I think alcohol is worse on society than any other drug. Knowledge is knowledge, OK? It doesn't change anything if I've used drugs. Should I know disregard everything that a man with a concussion has said? Or someone who had lead poisoning? And there are A LOT of incredibly smart people who used drugs. Are you going to disregard Shulgin? haha what a laugh
almostskater3210 10 months ago
@StarOfFortune
I have done a lot of research into neuropharmacology and understand the mechanisms behind drugs. I know what I'm doing to my body and do it responsibly. Drugs should be legal; I don't care if some people are morally against it.
almostskater3210 10 months ago
@almostskater3210 Taking drugs isn't something to be proud of - I wouldn't be ashamed if I did it but I wouldn't be proud. Causing physical and mental harm to yourself is bad. And I don't think the users should be jailed but I think the dealers should. The users are only going to go back to their addiction after jail but the dealers actively promote the use of harmful substances. It is immoral and another form of manslaughter and should be illegal.
12345ISIS12345 10 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
It's the users choice if he/she buys something and puts it in their body.So your saying that mcdonalds workers should be jailed for dealing harmful food?Or what about pharmaceutical companies who get people addicted to Oxycontin?You even said it for me "causing physical and mental harm to YOURSELF is bad." No one else causes that harm.You do.Cigarette and alcohol companies promote their drug more than ANY dealer. Do you think those drugs should be illegal? their owners jailed?
almostskater3210 10 months ago
@almostskater3210 Okay then, how can mustard cause insanity? And IF it does why aren't I insane and what chances of insanity does it have? I don't think mustard makes you insane that is just stupid, you have no evidence or proof to back yourself up. And amking it legal makes more people use it and it also encourages them to. I'm not going to reply to your next comment because I can't be botherd to argue and I have better things to do then join an argument that no side will win.
12345ISIS12345 10 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
So porn should be illegal?
almostskater3210 10 months ago
@almostskater3210 Yes actually it should, now I'm not going to reply to anymore of your comments.
12345ISIS12345 10 months ago
@12345ISIS12345
And it's not psychiatric haha. It's a pain killer. Oh and now I can see why I have to take everything you say with a grain of salt. You say "Exploiting yourself... is wrong" Why should I care what your morals are about sex? The fact is prostitution will exist whether its legal or not. Making it LEGAL makes it SAFER. Less crime, less death, less disease. Even if I thought it was wrong (which I don't) I would still think it should be legal for HARM REDUCTION.
almostskater3210 11 months ago