@krause79 i'm sorry but considering percentage-wise how many people die in conflict now as opposed to say 50 or 100 or 200 years ago, we are indeed more peaceful,.. the reason it seems worse now is because it's more difficult to hide these wars or their true purpose from the public that and the fact that the brain processes negative memory faster than good ones making the past always seem more rosy. That being said just 'cause it's more peaceful now doesn't mean we should stop wanting more peace
@DesertHamsterThere are quite a lot more children enslaved now than when slavery was abolished, percentages for me are irrelevant as well as completely misleading in this case, i´ll tell you why, millions of innocent people die every year due to wars they don´t even know about. There is food for them to stop starving, there are resources for them to get a living, there is technology and energy for them to be self suficient, but it´s much more profitable arms trading, cheap reasources, etc.
@krause79 conveniently picking "when slavery was abolished" how bout we go back 100 more years (1 in 4 slaves only made it to the americas which would mean roughly 40 million killed for slavery and 20 million during the 16th 17th 18th century)... or the 20million dead in the taiping civil war. Millions were dying of starvation even prior to modern days. In europe hardly a year went by in the 1700's without at least one country waging war on the other
@krause79 that being said: if you wish to continue this we do it via pm's (as the word limit is driving me nuts). And also I'm all for the Venus project, but the world is much less violent now than in prior times
@bodybuilder718 well statistics and college history classes tend to give you that impression. and "prior to modern days" means before the 20th century (though ww1 and 2 may make it seem worse) I would love to continue this but please, via private messaging, as the word cap is driving me crazy
A perfect world cannot exist. A perfect world would lack violence, or poverty, hate or strife, but when this perfect world is achieved, people lose free will to commit these actions. So strife is created. A perfect world cannot exist, as once the world becomes "perfect" the definition of perfect changes.
@anarchy3E cultural programming as well as physical / psychological enhancements will lead us closer to perfection. Nature is imperfect and I have no "love" or adoration for it.
@anarchy3E Nature has everyone by the balls? There is nothing we can do about it? Those are two empty propositions that your are simply spouting without evidence. It's the same as if I said the moon is made of cheese and the sun was a giant lump of coal that revolves around the Earth that is shaped like a burrito. Any evidence for anything of what I've just said or are they simply empty propositions like your first and second claims about nature and human capabilities to do anything about it?
@anarchy3E "who cares a shit what you have "love" for or not"
For one thing we have evolved our big brains for survival purposes so "caring" and "love" for something including improving our own conditions through logical thought processes and the development of science and technology is "the shit" rather than "not the shit" if we are to use your loose language definition of the term for the human need for seeing social and biological progress including the cure for cancer.
@anarchy3E "who cares a shit what you have "love" for or not?"
We have evolved our big brains for social interaction and like/dislike therefore "love" and "caring" is inevitable. Besides social interactions the general consensus is the dislike of pain or early death so we also developed science and technology by using our logical thought processes which is again inevitable. Which means "caring", "love" and "think you are something bigger" is "the shit" rather than "not the shit".
May be we are NOW in the most peaceful point in the history of the human society. Just think about the recent history.
Phonologie 1 year ago
@Phonologie You´re kidding, right ?? we´ve got the bigest war for resources in history, some in our very nose, many others concealed.
krause79 11 months ago
@krause79 Im not kidding.
Phonologie 10 months ago
@krause79 i'm sorry but considering percentage-wise how many people die in conflict now as opposed to say 50 or 100 or 200 years ago, we are indeed more peaceful,.. the reason it seems worse now is because it's more difficult to hide these wars or their true purpose from the public that and the fact that the brain processes negative memory faster than good ones making the past always seem more rosy. That being said just 'cause it's more peaceful now doesn't mean we should stop wanting more peace
DesertHamster 9 months ago
@DesertHamsterThere are quite a lot more children enslaved now than when slavery was abolished, percentages for me are irrelevant as well as completely misleading in this case, i´ll tell you why, millions of innocent people die every year due to wars they don´t even know about. There is food for them to stop starving, there are resources for them to get a living, there is technology and energy for them to be self suficient, but it´s much more profitable arms trading, cheap reasources, etc.
krause79 9 months ago
@krause79 conveniently picking "when slavery was abolished" how bout we go back 100 more years (1 in 4 slaves only made it to the americas which would mean roughly 40 million killed for slavery and 20 million during the 16th 17th 18th century)... or the 20million dead in the taiping civil war. Millions were dying of starvation even prior to modern days. In europe hardly a year went by in the 1700's without at least one country waging war on the other
DesertHamster 8 months ago
@krause79 that being said: if you wish to continue this we do it via pm's (as the word limit is driving me nuts). And also I'm all for the Venus project, but the world is much less violent now than in prior times
DesertHamster 8 months ago
@DesertHamster its a million times more dangerous now, were did you hear that the world is less violent? and what do you mean by prior times?
bodybuilder718 8 months ago
@bodybuilder718 well statistics and college history classes tend to give you that impression. and "prior to modern days" means before the 20th century (though ww1 and 2 may make it seem worse) I would love to continue this but please, via private messaging, as the word cap is driving me crazy
DesertHamster 8 months ago
A perfect world cannot exist. A perfect world would lack violence, or poverty, hate or strife, but when this perfect world is achieved, people lose free will to commit these actions. So strife is created. A perfect world cannot exist, as once the world becomes "perfect" the definition of perfect changes.
Flaremancer 2 years ago
you can never have a perfect society as long as you have imperfect humnas.
and humans are and will always be imperfect.
anarchy3E 2 years ago
@anarchy3E cultural programming as well as physical / psychological enhancements will lead us closer to perfection. Nature is imperfect and I have no "love" or adoration for it.
technatezin 1 year ago
@technatezin
lol who cares a shit what you have "love" for or not?
nature has each and everyone of us by the balls and there is nothing we can do about it.
you ll live, procreate, serve your purpose and be discarded like an empty battery....maybe by a very aggresive cancer or a neat braintumor.
think you are something bigger and better all you want.
slaves can dream. but just that.
anarchy3E 1 year ago
@anarchy3E Nature has everyone by the balls? There is nothing we can do about it? Those are two empty propositions that your are simply spouting without evidence. It's the same as if I said the moon is made of cheese and the sun was a giant lump of coal that revolves around the Earth that is shaped like a burrito. Any evidence for anything of what I've just said or are they simply empty propositions like your first and second claims about nature and human capabilities to do anything about it?
technatezin 1 year ago
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@anarchy3E "who cares a shit what you have "love" for or not"
For one thing we have evolved our big brains for survival purposes so "caring" and "love" for something including improving our own conditions through logical thought processes and the development of science and technology is "the shit" rather than "not the shit" if we are to use your loose language definition of the term for the human need for seeing social and biological progress including the cure for cancer.
technatezin 1 year ago
@anarchy3E "who cares a shit what you have "love" for or not?"
We have evolved our big brains for social interaction and like/dislike therefore "love" and "caring" is inevitable. Besides social interactions the general consensus is the dislike of pain or early death so we also developed science and technology by using our logical thought processes which is again inevitable. Which means "caring", "love" and "think you are something bigger" is "the shit" rather than "not the shit".
technatezin 1 year ago
I so agree with him he is a national treasure.
gardenspook 2 years ago
I don't think jacque Fresco would want to be known as that; or even like it? He is not a nationalist!
You need to listen to him harder, before you make comments like that.
razor71927 2 years ago
When was this filmed ?
This guy is a national treasure, I never heard of before ?
LiptonGuy 3 years ago 5
Not so long ago. But far before "Zeitgeist Addendum" was made.
prawda3 3 years ago
This is so damn true! Open your eyes people!
BushMonkey 3 years ago 4