Please LOL at korkycat. Is it not irionic that a character with this kinda label could have a large ginger cat crawil in and back out his arse while, miraculously, masterbating to davy sylvian in the quiet life video?
Duran duran had and still do have a huge and successful career with virtually no simillarity to the now dead japan. duran duran = success, global, respected, millions of sales. huge concerts, dozens of well known songs and Japan = erm, they died, and nothing else!
@korkeycat hey grow up? you mean you have nothing in your locker to discuss, argue and insult or your implying by saying grow up that you are somehow above this? LOL
@gregingram1970 Spot on genius u got i right first time, i left the school ground many years ago got married, had children and matured enough not to have agruments over the internet !!! grow up n try it, or are "U" above that ??????
@korkeycat Hey korkeycat...first of all, that is such a mature label to associate yourself with. Normally labels are used within the sphere of young adults and kids circle? LOL at that point. It is also my duty as an adult to address people who spout bullshit on posts on youtube. I, as a member of the online community, would like to uphold truth, honesty and freedom to say as you please, as long as its true! You failed to be truthful and so will be penalised accordingly.
What no name calling this time ?????? i am disappointed. oh yes i nearly forgot, can i ask why u put "LOL" did u imagine u had done or said something remotely funny ? or do u think u r 14 yrs old LOL ! LOL ! LOL ! LOL ! LOL ! LOL !!!! please read back what u have written. quote "I, as a member of the online community, would like to uphold truth, honesty and freedom" and hopefully u will realise just how pathetic u really are.........Jog on !
@korkeycat HI Korykycockhead...LOL you are super-funny! I enjoy this chat with you. in fact, LOL
I have to LOL because i want to communicate at your level. I want you to understand me. I think i have i write other than simple sentences then the meaning gets lost for you. and i wouldnt want that. i enjoy anatagonising you. LOL.
@korkeycat Jog on? my 12 year old niece says that phrase a lot. Jog on...what she means is - " i cant be bothered talking to you coz im stupid and i cannot think like an adult" but thats ok coz hes only 12. You, in contrast, are chronologically an adult, but with the mental evolution of an angry teenager. THat is you! your a boy trapped in a mans body !!! LOL LOL LOL>...
@gregingram1970 What ?????? u have a "niece" and "he" is only 12yrs old ??? How the fuck does that work ?? well he/she obviously takes after you !!!!!!!!!! Jog on tough guy !
@korkeycat should have been 'she', I would have thought you would gather that you can have either a niece or nephew - a she or a he. You can nitpick all you like. I own you korky.
@gregingram1970 It seems to me that all you do is abuse people over the internet, otherwise known as "bullying". It would be interesting to know what you are really like when your not hiding behind your computer !!!! ; )
@gregingram1970 Thanks again your just totally confirming once again my suspicions "Im tough and your small" your words not mine ! TYPICAL BULLY. Oh and "im" the "thick cunt" hahaha..............btw im not bi sexual im a full blown raging screamin arse pumping cock sucking skinny HOMO who cant sing or even fuckin dance and my favourite colour in bright pink !!!! Cmon "BIG MOUTH TOUGH MAN" lets have another smart arse come back hahahahaha. Oh and no name calling ok ! sweet pea XXX
I could be considered one of the VERY VERY few Pakistni's to love Japan. This is one of my favorite songs from Quiet Life. I discovered them back in 1993 when I was 13 and I still love them.
Instead of "candy" for "Halloween" tonight put David Sylvain and Peter Murphy in my "bag" as a the BEST TREAT in the UNIVERSE so that I can take both home and DEVOUR those two GODS like CANDY!!!...
@korkeycat You are so accurate there.at last you write facts!!
Duran duran have had 15 albums. Japan had 2 of note and most of these tracks were utter pish. Duran duran are a million miles more gifted creativley than pish poor and limp japan...
One thing I will say - and this relates to the uploader's comments about Japan playing live. There was a programme on the BBC fairly recently called 'Synth Britannia' (excellent programme) which showed live performances from a wide variety of post-punk bands between 1976 - 1986. Out of all the performers - including Ultravox, Depeche Mode, Gary Numan, New Order and The Human League, it was Japan's live performance of 'Ghosts' which stood out. It was absolutely exceptional.
Okay, here is the skinny...Japan were way more original in sound, look, and feel than DD. Double D has some great songs, but Japan are on a level higher. Doesn't mean DD is a poor band (they aren't and I will excitedly be seeing them for the first time at Coachella in a month's time). I've listened to both of their entire catalogues and am an expert.
i love this track it has an upbeat sound with an eeerrriiee backdrop ,its just fucking great thanks to david and the rest of the band for doing what you did and not all that commercial shit like aaalll the other electro shit groups on the radio .jj7
I love Duran Duran and Japan and I happily accept the view that Duran were influenced by Japan. However, at the same time, I acknowledge that Japan themselves were influenced by T. Rex, Roxy Music, The New York Dolls and Giorgio Moroder. Duran Duran were influenced by Chic, Japan, Roxy Music and Bowie. BOTH bands have made amazing music, but Duran will always get more flack because they were "pretty boys" back in the day. If they were pig ugly, they'd be musical gods right now, mark my words.
@DuranFan09 Much as I liked their 1st records as a kid, I strongly disagree that Duran Duran would be "musical gods" had they been "pig ugly". Japan were equally "pretty", yet their 'god-like' status has been assured since they were still together and that's simply down to the quality and originality of the work.
@blackmore4 duran duran were only similiar on one album to japan - that being Duran Duran. I think duran duran improved with Rio...and of course, put them into the commerical arena Japan couldnt get to (although it was cool to say they did not want that then and of course, to say Japan were not essentially a capitalised enterprise housed in pop music would be a lie).
Why all the Japan/Duran comparisons. I like both bands for different reasons. I like Duran because I think they made some fantastic records. I think they're album "Rio" is one of the best albums of the 80s. I don't think Japan have ever done an album as good as that but I love Japan especially The Art Of Parties (Not the version on Tin Drum, the verson on Exorcising Ghosts), Life In Tokyo, Halloween, Visions of China, Still Life In Mobile Homes, Methods Of Dance, Quiet Life, European Son etc etc
Jack-o-lantern is the ancient symbol of a dammed soul. Halloween itself originated in paganism,and all its customs are related to pagan belief. Halloween masks and costumes, were used in, pagan ceremony , to hide one’s image , and to change the, personality of the wearer, to allow for communication with the spirit in pagan festivals or in traditional shamanism .
Trick or treat comes to us by way of pagan cults. Pagan celebrations ,were held by, Druids, in honor of Shamhain
Both Japan and Duran own quite a lot to Roxy Music and David Bowie not least Japan having new producer in John Punter who had worked with Roxy for this album. Bowie and Roxy (along Kraftwerk) were played in the clubs where the whole new romantic movement started before it had own bands. Japan revised their style for this album from previous two which were more guitar driven.
@konked And Colin Thurston, who used to be a studio engineer for Bowie, produced Duran Duran's first two albums (which was without doubt their finest work).
@DuranFan09 This proves that bands & their styles and things affecting it don't come out from a vacuum. Instead there are some who come close to the style with the elements and then something that summarises influences up appears. Now thinking of it all the bands mentioned here more or less existed when punk still was spitting around.E.g Duran Duran had the idea on mixing punk's energy with dance rhytms. And imo too true, Duran Duran took misguided steps after Rio allthough had hits.
Surely is it not better to think that Japan had a positive effect on Duran Duran and not think it was anything other than taking the image and as Simon Napier Bell said ( Ex-Japan Manager) make good old fashioned foot to the floor music made up as pretty boys and conquered the world... i applaud them for that that as a major Japan/Sylvian fan and don't look upon the comparison as valid because of the different values and outlooks of both bands at the time.
Wow. A big stir about Duran Duran vs. Japan? I never heard of Japan til recently via David Sylvian but I can hear the similarities in the tracks I've sampled so far. I still like Duran Duran been taking crap for liking DD for 26 years. Egads. :-/ I look forward to checking out some more JAPAN.
@greginggram, ah, I see, you are tone deaf, PO'd by that fact, and think a band is good because they sold gobs of records to teenie bopping idiots who liked their hair and clothes more than that of Japan because they're easier to find at the mall! So by your logic I guess that Springsteen is more artistic than Duran or Japan because he sold more records than either and "Born to Run" is easier to hum ? I got it, you think Bananarama is better because you would rather date the lead singer? LOL !!!
Excellent band remember listening to them in my teens and nobody will ever sound like they did never got the recognition they deserved and im 44 now still love their unique sound love them to bits
Stop the pointless poncey catfighting. Japan was the quality art band and Duran Draino decided to sell out and be commercialites. If you can't get that by just listening to the music and figuring that out then you are brain dead. LOL !!! Having said that, Duran Draino was still a fun band and I really like "Ordinary World", the one tune they did that was artistically valid. Duran Draino was like Adam Ant, fun and gay before gay meant ... you know. LOL !
@videocanone artistically valid? what shite you talk. japan are not some kind of wonderful artisic musical art form??? they wrote pop songs and wore make up and tried very hard to sell records. they were not clever enough to maximise their appeal. perhaps that why there aint a day goes by when i dont hear duran duran on the radio and i think it must be 1987 the last time i heard japan on the radio...food for thought eh?
thx gregingram1970 for your always very interesting factual and real informations on those bands (it is changing compared to some others fanatics, yep). :) |just to irritate a little more Japan durans haters hehe ;). ps; well, at least Rhodes had more tastes in his ties! too ;):) ].
@shockmastershocksu what exaclty does tell anyone? I dont see the link here? as for bass playing, all duran duran fans know that bernard edwards was the man behind john taylors bass. as for repeating myself, well funny coz you fairires keep spewing the same lies/storeis/weirdness about how japan are basically the formative influences of duran duran and not only that bascially copied their ablums that were good and not a single other musician or band counts.
@shockmastershocksu of course it is...its based on evidence. i aint heard duran duran cite japan ever - quiet life and planet earth - the prized piece of evdience from japan fans eh? well, if you listen to planet earth and blondies - atomic you will hear where planet earth came from. in fact, quiet life sounds like blondie too?jkey influences are roxy/bowie/krautrock/t rex/sex pistols/chic/velvet undeground/joni mitchell - as have been cited by duran duran dozens of times.
@shockmastershocksu having an opinion is nothin to do with growing up. its intoxixating to read comments by retards making phoney claims about japan and how duran duran ripped them off...as i said in past, what elements of a view to a kill was it that duran duran stole off japan? exactly - there arent any
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In my scholarly opinion, I have to think that japan fans generally have a mental health problem which seems to be deulsional fo a grandiose proportion...i mean, they modelled themselves on bowie. roxy and krautrock...nothing original about them...and delusional japan fans seem to be conditioned into the belief that japan are original and of some substantial music status...as if japan fans are privy to some intellectual music that musical commoners like me fail to see...japan are rank rotten.
@gregingram1970 LOL dude, youre a fuggin idiot. What are you even doing here? If you dont like Japan, then why are you commenting on a page with their song on it? LOL As far as their originality, THEY ARE very original, you dumbass.
@gregingram1970 EVERYBODY is influenced by somebody. I dont care who youre talking about. BOWIE, ROXY, NEW YORK DOLLS, ETC dont sound a thing like these guys. You can definitely see the influence that the earlier bands had on them, but Sylvian and the rest of the guys definitely made this sound their own. How about you go leave a comment somewhere where you actually know what youre talking about MORON. rofl
colin thruston produced durans firs 2 albums-he produced david bowie roxy music in past-duran duran have cited literally hundreds of times that roxy music david bowie new york dolls velvet underground and lou reed chic as their formative inlfunces...i have yet to read japan and duran duran in the same sentence except on youtube in my 20 odd years as a fan of mainly duran and of japan. i think duran would have been happier with thurston than a japan guy who copied the same bands as duran duran.
i would imagine it would depend on your musical tastes..and this is a great album...but i can t but think that there are many greater live bands than these guys...no offence intended
they were really good live actually, what have you heard? There are several live recordings around actually and Oil On Canvas isn't even the best representation.
I was there! Do you remember all the DS lookalikes in the lobby of Hammersmith Odeon? I also saw them in Brighton later on, I think Blancmange opened for them. I have everything they've ever done on vinyl or mp3. This song was one of the best ever tracks, the intro drum roll start is amazing, always gets me. That and quiet life...just massive stream of talent. Imagine being an 18 year old kid and getting home with the LP under your arm, relishing the moment the needle hit the vinyl. Thanks!
@87oceans Total agreement! I bought the Assemblage Compilation on cassette (it wasn't available on vinyl if my memory serves me rightly)? I played it so much the tape snapped and I managed to find another one after some searching cos this was back in '82. The level of musicianship on this track is exceptional, particularly Steve Jansen and Mick Karn. I think that me constantly rewinding the drum intro was the reason the first tape snapped lol.
lol! Yeah, the digital revolution has been great for musicians and listeners alike. No more rewinding tape! I still kept all my albums on cassette tape and vinyl though, and I hear vinyl is making a comeback now that people are realizing there is a difference between good old analogue sounding gear like record players, and clinically clean digital mp3 and CD media.
Japan fans - in short, are jelous of the success Duran Duran had. This piffle about Japan being 'art' is shite. Duran Duran were better. Thats it. Stories about Le Bon phoning Sylvian or Nick Rhodes modelling himself on Sylvian - nonsense. It didnt happen. They had the same influences - and as a result- shaped how they sounded. New York DOlls, T Rex, Roxy Music, David Bowie - all influenced both bands. Duran were better and went on to have a much bigger, successful and global career. Japan died.
roxy music influenced japan - and duran duran. japan used roxy music as a model in terms of how they should sound. japan - great and superb band. duran duran modelled roxy too - and david bowie - if you know bowie and roxy - as i do - the sound japan have is clearly roxy music. david sylvians look - andy warhol/new york dolls. so japan aint that original. in fact, just like duran duran and many other massive artists of today - pieced their identity form other massive/not so massive stars.
Japan fans aren't jealous of the success DD had at all first off. How can you pigeon hole a whole group of fans of a band? Many Japan fans are in fact fans of DD as well you realize? DD themselves are FANS of this band and to say they didn't influence them at all is INSANE. They've publicly admitted to being influenced by this band and they are fans of them. Your views are really, really biased.
I am not aware of any public admittence of anything about japan and duran duran. what irritates me is the attitude japan fans have when commenting on duran duran - as if japan are solely responsible for duran duran and everything they produced. so, in my disgust, i point out japan are similar to duran duran due to their influences and not because duran duran ripped them off. besides, duran duran have aplenty of material unlike a japan sound if you like.
its not really substantial eh? we all know the keyboard sound on plaent earth is similar ot japan...as for rest of track...nowt. i dont think it matters about le bon or rhodes sayn they liked a japan song...coz most artists like other artists. this silly debate is pointless. duran duran and japan are products of roxy music and david bowie. thats where the comparions logiclally end. duran duran did the chaufferur and it trumps japans entire catalgoue. sorry, but your nauseating now.
I'm nauseating because you don't like facts t I posted in a discussion? you're the troll posting all this shit bashing Japan. I never said anything about you personally, pretty low shot.
if you read what i said - your comments are nauseating. they dont really prove anything do they? you want to prove that somehow japan are more talented, with more kudos and credibility than duran duran.
in fact, it would not be the case. japans careers was way to short to earn them some superior artisic credibility over duran duran. over and above that, duran duran were and still are a global pheonomenon. few, very few artists have had the world wide success that duran duran have had. you could count on two hands. regardless, duran duran owe their career to - chic, david bowie, roxy muisc, new york dolls, lou reed and velvet underground, janis choplin, t rex, rolling stones
...japan were out just before duran duran and to be honset were just too young and new to have shaped duran durans musical creativity that much. japan are great - not as great as duran duran.
like - say coldplay and keane could dress similar or oasis and some other act - because they both have the same contemporary style - as duran duran and japan had - art school and bowie/roxy music. but - duran duran did go commerical - yes - however, muscians respect duran duran because they can play, they do write their material and are fantastic live. if you get a roxy music fan - he will most certainly say japan ripped them off...as iv heard before.
@fiendwithoutaface66 im not a troll. im discussing your statements that, to me, sound, basically, stupid and biased. so, as i wander through videos and being attacked by such foolish and non-factual biased value judegments from yourself i feel obligated to respond to your comments. im happy to lock swords. bring it on.
but lets end it. no point in you proving that japan are marvellous and duran duran owe their entire career to japan. brian eno influenced japans keyboard...and influenced nick rhodes - eno is a hero of rhodes. bass guitar - bernard edwards - john taylors idol - from chic - and taylor regards as the best or one the best bassists of all time. japan were nothing more than young men learning their trade when duran duran came on the scene. they were out before duran and they looked similar -
@fiendwithoutaface66 i dont see that as indicative of anything really? what do you want me to believe after those statements? duran duran dont really sound like japan. planet earth only has one simlialriy with quiet life - jupiter 8 synth loop that is the back bone of planet earth and quiet life yet planet earth as much more bass and lead guitar and is more in a roxy muisc/blondie/sex pistols vein. im sorry, but the are not that alike. duran duran are just better than japan. end of.
@fiendwithoutaface66 playing a video by a band is indicative of modelling a career of another band? thats not logical really is it? im waisting time responding to people of your calibre and who are unable to break free from their chains of nostaligia and hero worship over japan. no matter what - duran duran have much more better material by a long long and very long way than japan.
@fiendwithoutaface66 Yeah, you're right...Duran Duran were blatantly influenced by Japan, it's so obvious...in my opinion, Japan had more charm, more class, dare I say....Duran Duran were a bit too poppy for me, I mean, I like some of their songs, but their videos were crass
@oogie11 I like early DD, including the videos. I could understand someone saying they're crass for sure though- they were to sell and push the records and they definitely worked. I think as the fame got to their heads and they got lazy though. Their third album is really lacking compared to the first two. They also had a huge stage show (Arena- the backup singers, band, etc.) It all just lost me there. I like Japan much more but it was because of DD that I even started listening.
@fiendwithoutaface66 i own the same bass as john taylor and im a bass player 37 years old.. I loved duran duran they were huge in the states..but once i heard japan saw them duran duran dropped way down in my book..nick looks like david doesnt he? You know nick produced kajagoogoo's white feathers? I dunno I love japan and im very sad that mick karn is dying...I own everything they ever did solo david and mick, those guys were my idols.
@fiendwithoutaface66 wow i never knew that and im a huge duran fan. is there much else u know about thwe facts of duran and japan? is that all true. and did japan reject duran??
Japans success - was significantly smaller than duran durans. i enjoy japan immensley. but - having heard alot of material from both bands - a lot of duran duran material is nowt like japan. but, japan fans seem to almost discredit duran duran - le bon is nothin like sylvian and i like that. any way - japan fans should be humble as if it were not for roxy and bowie we woulnd have this girly fight
if you go to NIGHTPORTER d o t CO d o t UK you can find a list and information about their tours. I would've liked to have seen any but I wasn't born yet! I'm having a hard enough time finding the live recordings that are out there.
Saw them three times, The sell out gig at the Lyceum in 1981, then Hammy Odeon in 1982 and Drury Lane in 1983 (I think). Lyceum was the best with Barbara Thompson on sax. This is probably the song that first hooked me. Anyone know what the hell its about? I've never been able to figure it out. Something to do with the Berlin wall but I don't see what that has to do with Halloween.
Ok, this is the song that Duran Duran made a career out of....Le Bon phoned Steve Nye (Japans Manager) asked to speak to Sylvian, Sylvian said ok, spoke to him....Le Bon, produce our new album.....Sylvian, ok, but why produce something we have already done?..
Why doesn't anyone mention Ultravox! (with Foxx)? They were innovators too. Along with Japan's ' Obscure Alternatives' and ' Quiet Life', Ultravox!'s 'System of Romance' marked the beginnings of the New Romantic-era. Though in my opinion Bowie's 'Low' was the very first and best New-Romantic album.
If you listen to despair and the other side of life from quiet life i think that Sylvian must have been listening to Low at that time, Japan just brought it all together in such a different and unique way. A lot of avant gaurde and poisturing but behind it was a very talented band who never got the acclaim they deserved. Ultravox and Duran Duran have their place but there is no debate Japan where and will be forever a truly original band ahead of its time. Intelligent post by the way.
yes ultravox is forgotten, but you also need to mention roxy music. low was in 77. roxy started in 72 and japan obviously borrows from them more than ultravox or bowie.
It's OK to carry an influence (Bowie 'stole' from many sources, Lou Reed, Iggy Stooge, Anthony Newly etc etc) it's all about being able to carry it off along with being inventive in the process... Duran Duran just didn't cut the mustard in that regard, whereas Japan, in the end DID ... and look at Sylvian now - a true artist , an evolution, he just keeps getting better... Duran Duran just do not. They made more money though, which was the aim I suppose.
@BloggStandard lets not forget that duran duran made more than japan coz they sold more material and of course were morse successful in selling their music than japan were...japan were just poorly sold to the public. of course, they were not as good as duran duran either and thast esstntially why they made less money...but both bands had a good stab at the commerical music scene...
Mick Karn's bass is the best ive ever heard, in fact the whole band are brilliant, such craft, remember this was 1979, didnt get the acclaim they deserved. Apart from those in the know.
Yes, it's obvious that Japan did influence DD. This album was out in '79 and DD's first album was '80. As far as underrated, I think they're one of the MOST underrated bands there is. Though I like both bands, I still like Japan more.
Ja he! Ben ook een echte, diehard fan... kijk maar op mijn favorieten of playlists. Ben zelfs om de hoek van de 4 Japan leden gaan wonen in 1983.. How dedicated can you get? Benieuwd naar jouw ervaringen.
Saw them at the Lyceum in early '81 with a female guest sax player who's name escapes me. Best gig I've ever been to. Saw them twice after that but it was never the same. They were a brilliant band though. Never quite matched by Sylvian's solo stuff. Barbieri's good in Porcupine Tree though.
This is the track that got me into Japan. A girlfriend was really into them and kept playing this all the time. I was a punk and not really interested until this caught my attention and I was hooked. Love those Barbieri wafting keyboards. Anyone know what its about? Something about dividing Germany but no idea what that has to do with Halloween!
This is truly one of Japan's best tracks. What's funny is that it sounds like Duran Duran's Rio, that came out just a couple of years later, especially during the opening bass line. Makes one think...
duran duran have stolen many ideas from japan...
the bassline sounds like john taylor...the entire song sounds like duran
japan rules !!
maccantuono 5 days ago
Great song and great album. Lucky those that saw them live! Lovely production on the album.
digitialdreams 1 month ago
bassline is unreal
zzpot1000 1 month ago
Please LOL at korkycat. Is it not irionic that a character with this kinda label could have a large ginger cat crawil in and back out his arse while, miraculously, masterbating to davy sylvian in the quiet life video?
Duran duran had and still do have a huge and successful career with virtually no simillarity to the now dead japan. duran duran = success, global, respected, millions of sales. huge concerts, dozens of well known songs and Japan = erm, they died, and nothing else!
gregingram1970 1 month ago
@gregingram1970 Are you really 41 yrs old ????? if the answer is yes then fuckin grow up and act it !
korkeycat 1 month ago
@korkeycat hey grow up? you mean you have nothing in your locker to discuss, argue and insult or your implying by saying grow up that you are somehow above this? LOL
You are a pussy.
gregingram1970 1 month ago
@gregingram1970 Spot on genius u got i right first time, i left the school ground many years ago got married, had children and matured enough not to have agruments over the internet !!! grow up n try it, or are "U" above that ??????
korkeycat 1 month ago
@korkeycat Hey korkeycat...first of all, that is such a mature label to associate yourself with. Normally labels are used within the sphere of young adults and kids circle? LOL at that point. It is also my duty as an adult to address people who spout bullshit on posts on youtube. I, as a member of the online community, would like to uphold truth, honesty and freedom to say as you please, as long as its true! You failed to be truthful and so will be penalised accordingly.
gregingram1970 1 month ago
What no name calling this time ?????? i am disappointed. oh yes i nearly forgot, can i ask why u put "LOL" did u imagine u had done or said something remotely funny ? or do u think u r 14 yrs old LOL ! LOL ! LOL ! LOL ! LOL ! LOL !!!! please read back what u have written. quote "I, as a member of the online community, would like to uphold truth, honesty and freedom" and hopefully u will realise just how pathetic u really are.........Jog on !
korkeycat 1 month ago
@korkeycat HI Korykycockhead...LOL you are super-funny! I enjoy this chat with you. in fact, LOL
I have to LOL because i want to communicate at your level. I want you to understand me. I think i have i write other than simple sentences then the meaning gets lost for you. and i wouldnt want that. i enjoy anatagonising you. LOL.
you are a thick cunt. LOL .
gregingram1970 1 month ago
@korkeycat Jog on? my 12 year old niece says that phrase a lot. Jog on...what she means is - " i cant be bothered talking to you coz im stupid and i cannot think like an adult" but thats ok coz hes only 12. You, in contrast, are chronologically an adult, but with the mental evolution of an angry teenager. THat is you! your a boy trapped in a mans body !!! LOL LOL LOL>...
Peter - korkycock-Pan!! LOL...LOL >>>>>LOL
gregingram1970 1 month ago
@gregingram1970 What ?????? u have a "niece" and "he" is only 12yrs old ??? How the fuck does that work ?? well he/she obviously takes after you !!!!!!!!!! Jog on tough guy !
korkeycat 1 month ago
@korkeycat should have been 'she', I would have thought you would gather that you can have either a niece or nephew - a she or a he. You can nitpick all you like. I own you korky.
gregingram1970 1 month ago
@gregingram1970 It seems to me that all you do is abuse people over the internet, otherwise known as "bullying". It would be interesting to know what you are really like when your not hiding behind your computer !!!! ; )
korkeycat 1 month ago
@korkeycat It would be interesting? LOL Peter pan.
I tell you this much judging by your manly physique in your video i think it would be a liberty to be agressive with you as you look defensless
gregingram1970 1 month ago
@gregingram1970 You have just confirmed all i thought cheers "tough man" XXX
korkeycat 1 month ago
@korkeycat HI Korky...Im tough and your small. I take it the xxx's are kisses and this confirms what i thought - your bi sexual.
oh well a thick cunt who cant sing and a fairy.
gregingram1970 1 month ago
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@gregingram1970 Thanks again your just totally confirming once again my suspicions "Im tough and your small" your words not mine ! TYPICAL BULLY. Oh and "im" the "thick cunt" hahaha..............btw im not bi sexual im a full blown raging screamin arse pumping cock sucking skinny HOMO who cant sing or even fuckin dance and my favourite colour in bright pink !!!! Cmon "BIG MOUTH TOUGH MAN" lets have another smart arse come back hahahahaha. Oh and no name calling ok ! sweet pea XXX
korkeycat 1 month ago
@korkeycat Pet Pan!!! LOL LOL LOL
get this - Peter Pan Loves Japan!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL!!!!!
gregingram1970 1 month ago
I could be considered one of the VERY VERY few Pakistni's to love Japan. This is one of my favorite songs from Quiet Life. I discovered them back in 1993 when I was 13 and I still love them.
sirmoog 4 months ago 2
@sirmoog ha ha great comment i love it !
korkeycat 3 months ago
Instead of "candy" for "Halloween" tonight put David Sylvain and Peter Murphy in my "bag" as a the BEST TREAT in the UNIVERSE so that I can take both home and DEVOUR those two GODS like CANDY!!!...
petermurphreak 4 months ago 3
All treat - no trick!
71karoli 4 months ago 3
Love Japan, like a dark Duran Duran, which is a very good combo! And yes I know they were around before DD, blah blah blah
johnlovesbridge 4 months ago in playlist johnlovesbridge's favorites 2
@johnlovesbridge please dont compare Japan to Duran Duran, ther is no similarity watsoever
korkeycat 3 months ago
@korkeycat thats soooo super true wide ass - think duran duran (a Porche) and japan (a skate board).
you thick cunt
gregingram1970 1 month ago
@korkeycat You are so accurate there.at last you write facts!!
Duran duran have had 15 albums. Japan had 2 of note and most of these tracks were utter pish. Duran duran are a million miles more gifted creativley than pish poor and limp japan...
gregingram1970 1 month ago
One thing I will say - and this relates to the uploader's comments about Japan playing live. There was a programme on the BBC fairly recently called 'Synth Britannia' (excellent programme) which showed live performances from a wide variety of post-punk bands between 1976 - 1986. Out of all the performers - including Ultravox, Depeche Mode, Gary Numan, New Order and The Human League, it was Japan's live performance of 'Ghosts' which stood out. It was absolutely exceptional.
DuranFan09 8 months ago 6
ahead of its time..... excelllant..
Breezerboy1219 10 months ago
"Artist: Japan
Playing at Stealth,
Nottingham on 25/06/2011"
Advertising Fail....
DuranFan09 10 months ago
Omg . Was there ever anything as good as this ?
2020vision100 11 months ago 6
Mick Kahn was a genius on bass, great rhythm, great song!!!
tomwheeler2010 1 year ago
Okay, here is the skinny...Japan were way more original in sound, look, and feel than DD. Double D has some great songs, but Japan are on a level higher. Doesn't mean DD is a poor band (they aren't and I will excitedly be seeing them for the first time at Coachella in a month's time). I've listened to both of their entire catalogues and am an expert.
loosemeatbeef 1 year ago 3
@loosemeatbeef That's a very fair statement and to be honest I think it's spot on :-)
DuranFan09 11 months ago
I'd like to think they wrote this song for my birthday, but that would be downright narcisscissors. R.I.P. Mick Karn; an artist among thieves.
owlandtree 1 year ago 3
i love this track it has an upbeat sound with an eeerrriiee backdrop ,its just fucking great thanks to david and the rest of the band for doing what you did and not all that commercial shit like aaalll the other electro shit groups on the radio .jj7
maddogj7 1 year ago
I love Duran Duran and Japan and I happily accept the view that Duran were influenced by Japan. However, at the same time, I acknowledge that Japan themselves were influenced by T. Rex, Roxy Music, The New York Dolls and Giorgio Moroder. Duran Duran were influenced by Chic, Japan, Roxy Music and Bowie. BOTH bands have made amazing music, but Duran will always get more flack because they were "pretty boys" back in the day. If they were pig ugly, they'd be musical gods right now, mark my words.
DuranFan09 1 year ago
@DuranFan09 hmm...Japan were pretty good looking too if not better looking than Duran Duran.
sscrystal10 1 year ago
@sscrystal10 Vastly more :-)
blackmore4 11 months ago
@DuranFan09 hmm...Japan were pretty good looking too if not better looking than Duran Duran. Please DO LOOK AT THE PICTURE ABOVE
sscrystal10 1 year ago
@DuranFan09 Much as I liked their 1st records as a kid, I strongly disagree that Duran Duran would be "musical gods" had they been "pig ugly". Japan were equally "pretty", yet their 'god-like' status has been assured since they were still together and that's simply down to the quality and originality of the work.
blackmore4 11 months ago
@blackmore4 duran duran were only similiar on one album to japan - that being Duran Duran. I think duran duran improved with Rio...and of course, put them into the commerical arena Japan couldnt get to (although it was cool to say they did not want that then and of course, to say Japan were not essentially a capitalised enterprise housed in pop music would be a lie).
gregingram1970 7 months ago
@gregingram1970 wtf ?
korkeycat 3 months ago
Why all the Japan/Duran comparisons. I like both bands for different reasons. I like Duran because I think they made some fantastic records. I think they're album "Rio" is one of the best albums of the 80s. I don't think Japan have ever done an album as good as that but I love Japan especially The Art Of Parties (Not the version on Tin Drum, the verson on Exorcising Ghosts), Life In Tokyo, Halloween, Visions of China, Still Life In Mobile Homes, Methods Of Dance, Quiet Life, European Son etc etc
flares 1 year ago
Mick's death is an absolute tragedy. A rare talent has left us behind begging for more.
ajhoncantara 1 year ago
R.I.P Mick Karn...One and only !
owlru 1 year ago 2
R.I.P MICK! sadly missed
69schuey 1 year ago 2
R.I.P. Mick
wafflecake37 1 year ago 2
rest in peace Mick. there will never be another bassist like you.
wonkeaux 1 year ago 3
no Really! this is the coolest song EVER!!!
vealshanker 1 year ago 4
Whats with the duran duran similarities!
Oil on canvas....................Japan went into the stratosphere with a truly original atmospheric genre that was all their own.
duran who!!!!
teddingtontcu 1 year ago 2
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derekdb2 1 year ago
Mick karn is my hero!
sprintbass 1 year ago
Great song, whose lyrics are very apt for the "zeitgeist" of today?????????
insanityrulestheday 1 year ago 2
Both Japan and Duran own quite a lot to Roxy Music and David Bowie not least Japan having new producer in John Punter who had worked with Roxy for this album. Bowie and Roxy (along Kraftwerk) were played in the clubs where the whole new romantic movement started before it had own bands. Japan revised their style for this album from previous two which were more guitar driven.
konked 1 year ago
@konked And Colin Thurston, who used to be a studio engineer for Bowie, produced Duran Duran's first two albums (which was without doubt their finest work).
DuranFan09 3 months ago
@DuranFan09 This proves that bands & their styles and things affecting it don't come out from a vacuum. Instead there are some who come close to the style with the elements and then something that summarises influences up appears. Now thinking of it all the bands mentioned here more or less existed when punk still was spitting around.E.g Duran Duran had the idea on mixing punk's energy with dance rhytms. And imo too true, Duran Duran took misguided steps after Rio allthough had hits.
konked 3 months ago
maybe my fave Japan song. maybe, ever!
vealshanker 1 year ago
Surely is it not better to think that Japan had a positive effect on Duran Duran and not think it was anything other than taking the image and as Simon Napier Bell said ( Ex-Japan Manager) make good old fashioned foot to the floor music made up as pretty boys and conquered the world... i applaud them for that that as a major Japan/Sylvian fan and don't look upon the comparison as valid because of the different values and outlooks of both bands at the time.
irishcowboy42 1 year ago
Wow. A big stir about Duran Duran vs. Japan? I never heard of Japan til recently via David Sylvian but I can hear the similarities in the tracks I've sampled so far. I still like Duran Duran been taking crap for liking DD for 26 years. Egads. :-/ I look forward to checking out some more JAPAN.
QuanTom39 1 year ago
Rhodes when back stage looking for Barbieris settings.. add that + JT said if he played fretless ( Karnesk ) they would be japan...
zane1961 1 year ago
@greginggram, ah, I see, you are tone deaf, PO'd by that fact, and think a band is good because they sold gobs of records to teenie bopping idiots who liked their hair and clothes more than that of Japan because they're easier to find at the mall! So by your logic I guess that Springsteen is more artistic than Duran or Japan because he sold more records than either and "Born to Run" is easier to hum ? I got it, you think Bananarama is better because you would rather date the lead singer? LOL !!!
videocanone 1 year ago
One of there best songs,timeless*
sometimes i wonder; are there people (in Holland) listening to this stuff those days??
optic67 1 year ago
AWSOME....
TheSluddsy1 1 year ago
I always find this the album that showed where they were going with there style....and they did grow with every album
pulaat 1 year ago
It easily can be a song for some Scooby Doo film, show, cartoon.....
FrancoDamn 1 year ago
Excellent band remember listening to them in my teens and nobody will ever sound like they did never got the recognition they deserved and im 44 now still love their unique sound love them to bits
danielmcCourt1 1 year ago 3
Stop the pointless poncey catfighting. Japan was the quality art band and Duran Draino decided to sell out and be commercialites. If you can't get that by just listening to the music and figuring that out then you are brain dead. LOL !!! Having said that, Duran Draino was still a fun band and I really like "Ordinary World", the one tune they did that was artistically valid. Duran Draino was like Adam Ant, fun and gay before gay meant ... you know. LOL !
videocanone 1 year ago 3
@videocanone artistically valid? what shite you talk. japan are not some kind of wonderful artisic musical art form??? they wrote pop songs and wore make up and tried very hard to sell records. they were not clever enough to maximise their appeal. perhaps that why there aint a day goes by when i dont hear duran duran on the radio and i think it must be 1987 the last time i heard japan on the radio...food for thought eh?
gregingram1970 1 year ago
thx gregingram1970 for your always very interesting factual and real informations on those bands (it is changing compared to some others fanatics, yep). :) |just to irritate a little more Japan durans haters hehe ;). ps; well, at least Rhodes had more tastes in his ties! too ;):) ].
sunset002007 1 year ago
A blast from the past!!
kutbakkarl 1 year ago
japan fans are delusional and like to believe any affirmitive story out there regardless how tenuous the link to fact.
gregingram1970 1 year ago
@shockmastershocksu what exaclty does tell anyone? I dont see the link here? as for bass playing, all duran duran fans know that bernard edwards was the man behind john taylors bass. as for repeating myself, well funny coz you fairires keep spewing the same lies/storeis/weirdness about how japan are basically the formative influences of duran duran and not only that bascially copied their ablums that were good and not a single other musician or band counts.
gregingram1970 1 year ago
@shockmastershocksu i dont hate japan. i like some of their stuff but some of it is shite.
gregingram1970 1 year ago
@shockmastershocksu of course it is...its based on evidence. i aint heard duran duran cite japan ever - quiet life and planet earth - the prized piece of evdience from japan fans eh? well, if you listen to planet earth and blondies - atomic you will hear where planet earth came from. in fact, quiet life sounds like blondie too?jkey influences are roxy/bowie/krautrock/t rex/sex pistols/chic/velvet undeground/joni mitchell - as have been cited by duran duran dozens of times.
gregingram1970 1 year ago
@shockmastershocksu having an opinion is nothin to do with growing up. its intoxixating to read comments by retards making phoney claims about japan and how duran duran ripped them off...as i said in past, what elements of a view to a kill was it that duran duran stole off japan? exactly - there arent any
gregingram1970 1 year ago
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In my scholarly opinion, I have to think that japan fans generally have a mental health problem which seems to be deulsional fo a grandiose proportion...i mean, they modelled themselves on bowie. roxy and krautrock...nothing original about them...and delusional japan fans seem to be conditioned into the belief that japan are original and of some substantial music status...as if japan fans are privy to some intellectual music that musical commoners like me fail to see...japan are rank rotten.
gregingram1970 1 year ago
@gregingram1970 LOL dude, youre a fuggin idiot. What are you even doing here? If you dont like Japan, then why are you commenting on a page with their song on it? LOL As far as their originality, THEY ARE very original, you dumbass.
crazyinjun022207 1 year ago
@gregingram1970 EVERYBODY is influenced by somebody. I dont care who youre talking about. BOWIE, ROXY, NEW YORK DOLLS, ETC dont sound a thing like these guys. You can definitely see the influence that the earlier bands had on them, but Sylvian and the rest of the guys definitely made this sound their own. How about you go leave a comment somewhere where you actually know what youre talking about MORON. rofl
crazyinjun022207 1 year ago
@crazyinjun022207 you know nothing...and you are in denial. its you who dont know what you on about thck cunt
gregingram1970 1 year ago
@crazyinjun022207 oh yes they do. japan had influences im afraid to inform you just like oasis did of the bealtes and japan and...?
gregingram1970 1 year ago
love it....
TheSluddsy1 1 year ago
colin thruston produced durans firs 2 albums-he produced david bowie roxy music in past-duran duran have cited literally hundreds of times that roxy music david bowie new york dolls velvet underground and lou reed chic as their formative inlfunces...i have yet to read japan and duran duran in the same sentence except on youtube in my 20 odd years as a fan of mainly duran and of japan. i think duran would have been happier with thurston than a japan guy who copied the same bands as duran duran.
gregingram1970 2 years ago
Check out my channel for both Duran Duran and especially Japan/Sylvian/YMO/Sakamoto et al.
Maxiclaudi 2 years ago
september she knows.loved this band so much
machman36 2 years ago
i would imagine it would depend on your musical tastes..and this is a great album...but i can t but think that there are many greater live bands than these guys...no offence intended
MIKCURIE 2 years ago
they were really good live actually, what have you heard? There are several live recordings around actually and Oil On Canvas isn't even the best representation.
paintedship 2 years ago
@paintedship do they have a Be Bop Deluxe connection?
MIKCURIE 2 years ago
no not that I'm aware of
paintedship 2 years ago
MIKCURIE- You talk Bullshit pure and simple! TeeHee!
ariesscorpiorising 2 years ago
@ariesscorpiorising Why??
MIKCURIE 2 years ago
I was in Tescos last month and they were playing this track by the halloween costume display! Made my day!
miknikb 2 years ago 3
I was there! Do you remember all the DS lookalikes in the lobby of Hammersmith Odeon? I also saw them in Brighton later on, I think Blancmange opened for them. I have everything they've ever done on vinyl or mp3. This song was one of the best ever tracks, the intro drum roll start is amazing, always gets me. That and quiet life...just massive stream of talent. Imagine being an 18 year old kid and getting home with the LP under your arm, relishing the moment the needle hit the vinyl. Thanks!
87oceans 2 years ago 3
@87oceans Total agreement! I bought the Assemblage Compilation on cassette (it wasn't available on vinyl if my memory serves me rightly)? I played it so much the tape snapped and I managed to find another one after some searching cos this was back in '82. The level of musicianship on this track is exceptional, particularly Steve Jansen and Mick Karn. I think that me constantly rewinding the drum intro was the reason the first tape snapped lol.
dharting1 2 years ago
lol! Yeah, the digital revolution has been great for musicians and listeners alike. No more rewinding tape! I still kept all my albums on cassette tape and vinyl though, and I hear vinyl is making a comeback now that people are realizing there is a difference between good old analogue sounding gear like record players, and clinically clean digital mp3 and CD media.
87oceans 2 years ago
i was there also, sorted gig.!!!!!
billus1066 2 years ago
yeah but when those young dudes got together they sounded so incredible they blew all their peers, before and after, out the water..
ripvanjonesy 2 years ago
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Japan fans - in short, are jelous of the success Duran Duran had. This piffle about Japan being 'art' is shite. Duran Duran were better. Thats it. Stories about Le Bon phoning Sylvian or Nick Rhodes modelling himself on Sylvian - nonsense. It didnt happen. They had the same influences - and as a result- shaped how they sounded. New York DOlls, T Rex, Roxy Music, David Bowie - all influenced both bands. Duran were better and went on to have a much bigger, successful and global career. Japan died.
gregingram1970 2 years ago
you do realize this was 30 years ago? You sound totally jealous of this band. DD did copy Japan but I don't think Sylvian really gives a hell anyway.
fiendwithoutaface66 2 years ago 4
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roxy music influenced japan - and duran duran. japan used roxy music as a model in terms of how they should sound. japan - great and superb band. duran duran modelled roxy too - and david bowie - if you know bowie and roxy - as i do - the sound japan have is clearly roxy music. david sylvians look - andy warhol/new york dolls. so japan aint that original. in fact, just like duran duran and many other massive artists of today - pieced their identity form other massive/not so massive stars.
gregingram1970 2 years ago
Japan fans aren't jealous of the success DD had at all first off. How can you pigeon hole a whole group of fans of a band? Many Japan fans are in fact fans of DD as well you realize? DD themselves are FANS of this band and to say they didn't influence them at all is INSANE. They've publicly admitted to being influenced by this band and they are fans of them. Your views are really, really biased.
fiendwithoutaface66 2 years ago 5
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I am not aware of any public admittence of anything about japan and duran duran. what irritates me is the attitude japan fans have when commenting on duran duran - as if japan are solely responsible for duran duran and everything they produced. so, in my disgust, i point out japan are similar to duran duran due to their influences and not because duran duran ripped them off. besides, duran duran have aplenty of material unlike a japan sound if you like.
gregingram1970 2 years ago
they're not solely responsible but its hard to deny they aren't an influence what about these facts-
-duran duran members approaching Japan to produce their first album
-Nick Rhodes saying Visions of China is his favorite song by them and playing their video
-Rhodes and Taylor saying they waited on line the day Quiet Life album came out
-Roger Taylor mentions being a fan in a recent tour book
-the similarities between planet earth and quiet life
is that enough for you?
fiendwithoutaface66 2 years ago 23
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its not really substantial eh? we all know the keyboard sound on plaent earth is similar ot japan...as for rest of track...nowt. i dont think it matters about le bon or rhodes sayn they liked a japan song...coz most artists like other artists. this silly debate is pointless. duran duran and japan are products of roxy music and david bowie. thats where the comparions logiclally end. duran duran did the chaufferur and it trumps japans entire catalgoue. sorry, but your nauseating now.
gregingram1970 2 years ago
I'm nauseating because you don't like facts t I posted in a discussion? you're the troll posting all this shit bashing Japan. I never said anything about you personally, pretty low shot.
fiendwithoutaface66 2 years ago 8
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if you read what i said - your comments are nauseating. they dont really prove anything do they? you want to prove that somehow japan are more talented, with more kudos and credibility than duran duran.
gregingram1970 2 years ago
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in fact, it would not be the case. japans careers was way to short to earn them some superior artisic credibility over duran duran. over and above that, duran duran were and still are a global pheonomenon. few, very few artists have had the world wide success that duran duran have had. you could count on two hands. regardless, duran duran owe their career to - chic, david bowie, roxy muisc, new york dolls, lou reed and velvet underground, janis choplin, t rex, rolling stones
gregingram1970 2 years ago
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...japan were out just before duran duran and to be honset were just too young and new to have shaped duran durans musical creativity that much. japan are great - not as great as duran duran.
gregingram1970 2 years ago
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like - say coldplay and keane could dress similar or oasis and some other act - because they both have the same contemporary style - as duran duran and japan had - art school and bowie/roxy music. but - duran duran did go commerical - yes - however, muscians respect duran duran because they can play, they do write their material and are fantastic live. if you get a roxy music fan - he will most certainly say japan ripped them off...as iv heard before.
gregingram1970 2 years ago
@fiendwithoutaface66 im not a troll. im discussing your statements that, to me, sound, basically, stupid and biased. so, as i wander through videos and being attacked by such foolish and non-factual biased value judegments from yourself i feel obligated to respond to your comments. im happy to lock swords. bring it on.
gregingram1970 1 year ago
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but lets end it. no point in you proving that japan are marvellous and duran duran owe their entire career to japan. brian eno influenced japans keyboard...and influenced nick rhodes - eno is a hero of rhodes. bass guitar - bernard edwards - john taylors idol - from chic - and taylor regards as the best or one the best bassists of all time. japan were nothing more than young men learning their trade when duran duran came on the scene. they were out before duran and they looked similar -
gregingram1970 2 years ago
@fiendwithoutaface66 i dont see that as indicative of anything really? what do you want me to believe after those statements? duran duran dont really sound like japan. planet earth only has one simlialriy with quiet life - jupiter 8 synth loop that is the back bone of planet earth and quiet life yet planet earth as much more bass and lead guitar and is more in a roxy muisc/blondie/sex pistols vein. im sorry, but the are not that alike. duran duran are just better than japan. end of.
gregingram1970 1 year ago
@fiendwithoutaface66 playing a video by a band is indicative of modelling a career of another band? thats not logical really is it? im waisting time responding to people of your calibre and who are unable to break free from their chains of nostaligia and hero worship over japan. no matter what - duran duran have much more better material by a long long and very long way than japan.
gregingram1970 1 year ago
@fiendwithoutaface66 Yeah, you're right...Duran Duran were blatantly influenced by Japan, it's so obvious...in my opinion, Japan had more charm, more class, dare I say....Duran Duran were a bit too poppy for me, I mean, I like some of their songs, but their videos were crass
oogie11 1 year ago
@oogie11 I like early DD, including the videos. I could understand someone saying they're crass for sure though- they were to sell and push the records and they definitely worked. I think as the fame got to their heads and they got lazy though. Their third album is really lacking compared to the first two. They also had a huge stage show (Arena- the backup singers, band, etc.) It all just lost me there. I like Japan much more but it was because of DD that I even started listening.
fiendwithoutaface66 1 year ago
@fiendwithoutaface66 i own the same bass as john taylor and im a bass player 37 years old.. I loved duran duran they were huge in the states..but once i heard japan saw them duran duran dropped way down in my book..nick looks like david doesnt he? You know nick produced kajagoogoo's white feathers? I dunno I love japan and im very sad that mick karn is dying...I own everything they ever did solo david and mick, those guys were my idols.
sprintbass 1 year ago
@fiendwithoutaface66 I wish I had this back in high school when friends mocked me for listening to "Japan Duran"
atrios28 1 year ago
@fiendwithoutaface66 wow i never knew that and im a huge duran fan. is there much else u know about thwe facts of duran and japan? is that all true. and did japan reject duran??
DRstaszak 1 year ago
@fiendwithoutaface66 ...small point but there was no "....on line" for Rhodes and Taylor to be waiting on when the Quiet Life LP came out.
077glenn 5 months ago
@077glenn He meant in line u dolt. ;)
ariesscorpiorising 5 months ago
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Japans success - was significantly smaller than duran durans. i enjoy japan immensley. but - having heard alot of material from both bands - a lot of duran duran material is nowt like japan. but, japan fans seem to almost discredit duran duran - le bon is nothin like sylvian and i like that. any way - japan fans should be humble as if it were not for roxy and bowie we woulnd have this girly fight
gregingram1970 2 years ago
Sorry think I got the dates wrong there, Hammy Odeon was probably also 1981 and Drury Lane 1982. It was a while ago anyway :)
doctormozo 2 years ago
if you go to NIGHTPORTER d o t CO d o t UK you can find a list and information about their tours. I would've liked to have seen any but I wasn't born yet! I'm having a hard enough time finding the live recordings that are out there.
paintedship 2 years ago 3
Saw them three times, The sell out gig at the Lyceum in 1981, then Hammy Odeon in 1982 and Drury Lane in 1983 (I think). Lyceum was the best with Barbara Thompson on sax. This is probably the song that first hooked me. Anyone know what the hell its about? I've never been able to figure it out. Something to do with the Berlin wall but I don't see what that has to do with Halloween.
doctormozo 2 years ago
GOD!!!!!!!!
I love this song, so creepy, so brilliant!!!!!!!!!!!
¡¡¡¡¡JAPAN THE BEST!!!!!
voorhes80 2 years ago 2
My biggest regret is not seeing Japan live, I did catch David Sylvian a couple of years back but to see these songs live is a dream sadly gone...
shesgotmedals 2 years ago
Ok, this is the song that Duran Duran made a career out of....Le Bon phoned Steve Nye (Japans Manager) asked to speak to Sylvian, Sylvian said ok, spoke to him....Le Bon, produce our new album.....Sylvian, ok, but why produce something we have already done?..
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travsubstantiation 2 years ago
Best song in the world!!!!
ariesscorpiorising 2 years ago
So...fucking...brilliant.
Why didn't they achieve to the levels of Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, etc?! They were BRILLIANT!
jonomurphy3 2 years ago 5
They were ahead of their time, when people are ahead of their time they get overlooked and, eventually, plagiarised.
kingcroak 2 years ago 3
True, unfortunately :(
jonomurphy3 2 years ago
I totally agree with you zzzsjp because I attended
that last series of concerts in 1982. It was in Paris at " le Palace" if I remember it well and the concert
was absolutely FAN-TAS-TIC! I really miss that band a lot and I think it was a VERY big mistake to split up!
sjlp1 2 years ago
and lets not forget heaven 17 or holly johnsons solo material after he left japan before forming frankie goes to holllywood.
bluehairspaz 2 years ago
You're thinking of the group Big In Japan sir - Totally differant acts.
pedrolazurus 2 years ago
Why doesn't anyone mention Ultravox! (with Foxx)? They were innovators too. Along with Japan's ' Obscure Alternatives' and ' Quiet Life', Ultravox!'s 'System of Romance' marked the beginnings of the New Romantic-era. Though in my opinion Bowie's 'Low' was the very first and best New-Romantic album.
kostasxrysogelos 2 years ago
If you listen to despair and the other side of life from quiet life i think that Sylvian must have been listening to Low at that time, Japan just brought it all together in such a different and unique way. A lot of avant gaurde and poisturing but behind it was a very talented band who never got the acclaim they deserved. Ultravox and Duran Duran have their place but there is no debate Japan where and will be forever a truly original band ahead of its time. Intelligent post by the way.
carlb1501 2 years ago
Thanks for the comment mate. I'll continue by listening the tracks you suggested from Quiet Life.
kostasxrysogelos 2 years ago
yes ultravox is forgotten, but you also need to mention roxy music. low was in 77. roxy started in 72 and japan obviously borrows from them more than ultravox or bowie.
bluehairspaz 2 years ago
It's OK to carry an influence (Bowie 'stole' from many sources, Lou Reed, Iggy Stooge, Anthony Newly etc etc) it's all about being able to carry it off along with being inventive in the process... Duran Duran just didn't cut the mustard in that regard, whereas Japan, in the end DID ... and look at Sylvian now - a true artist , an evolution, he just keeps getting better... Duran Duran just do not. They made more money though, which was the aim I suppose.
"By their fruits ye shall know them"
BloggStandard 3 years ago 5
@BloggStandard lets not forget that duran duran made more than japan coz they sold more material and of course were morse successful in selling their music than japan were...japan were just poorly sold to the public. of course, they were not as good as duran duran either and thast esstntially why they made less money...but both bands had a good stab at the commerical music scene...
gregingram1970 1 year ago
Listen to "Last Chance on the Stairway" by Duran Duran, then tell me that they didn't take any cues from Japan.
therealsoulproduct 3 years ago 2
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Listen to roxy music adn you can hear where japan nicked their sound...
gregingram1970 2 years ago
Mick Karn's bass is the best ive ever heard, in fact the whole band are brilliant, such craft, remember this was 1979, didnt get the acclaim they deserved. Apart from those in the know.
carlb1501 3 years ago 2
you are so right . i love them too bits
davideffamykwk 3 years ago
NEVERMIND !!!! I love Japan and Duran Duran !!
the most important is music !!!
Japan was unique !!!
FLORENT2222 3 years ago
top track.
kataka64 3 years ago
Never mind this Japan/DD debate both bands owe their existence to Bowie and especially Roxy Music. However Japan brought a lot to the show.
keddw 3 years ago 2
Yes, it's obvious that Japan did influence DD. This album was out in '79 and DD's first album was '80. As far as underrated, I think they're one of the MOST underrated bands there is. Though I like both bands, I still like Japan more.
crazyinjun022207 3 years ago 3
This album was so ahead of its time. I can understand the comparison with Duran Duran. But Japan came first.
RobDeManc 3 years ago
one of the greatest bands i know!!
beschermengel 3 years ago
Ja he! Ben ook een echte, diehard fan... kijk maar op mijn favorieten of playlists. Ben zelfs om de hoek van de 4 Japan leden gaan wonen in 1983.. How dedicated can you get? Benieuwd naar jouw ervaringen.
Maxiclaudi 3 years ago
You have to be a musician to really hear it. Not sure if you are or not, but there is a similarity between the two songs.
geeoffgl 3 years ago
Love this album...
ludocrat 3 years ago 2
Thats cos its class n was totally different to everything around at the time, one of the most underated bands of there time.....
korkeycat 3 years ago
So great still! Such a shame that there will never be a Japan reunion !!
speurder1000 3 years ago
懐かしい・・・
Japanは本国イギリスより日本での評価の方が高かったですよね
royalanthem2008 3 years ago
Saw them at the Lyceum in early '81 with a female guest sax player who's name escapes me. Best gig I've ever been to. Saw them twice after that but it was never the same. They were a brilliant band though. Never quite matched by Sylvian's solo stuff. Barbieri's good in Porcupine Tree though.
doctormozo 3 years ago
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erictapeworm 2 years ago
This is the track that got me into Japan. A girlfriend was really into them and kept playing this all the time. I was a punk and not really interested until this caught my attention and I was hooked. Love those Barbieri wafting keyboards. Anyone know what its about? Something about dividing Germany but no idea what that has to do with Halloween!
doctormozo 3 years ago
This is truly one of Japan's best tracks. What's funny is that it sounds like Duran Duran's Rio, that came out just a couple of years later, especially during the opening bass line. Makes one think...
geeoffgl 3 years ago
I saw them live at the Hammersmith in the early 80's... they were absolutely brilliant!
bumsweaters 3 years ago
I saw them at Liverpool Empire about 81/82 i think, Sylvian in a shiny lilac suit i was blown away never forget it....
korkeycat 3 years ago 2
it kinda looks like a movie poster of The Dark Knight with The Joker smearing blood on a glass wall.
baiteme 3 years ago
Absolutely brilliant !
I was there at Hammersmith when the curtain came down.........Loved them then......Still do.
robadob1956 3 years ago