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  • Rest In Peace

  • Beyond the limmit,,,

  • damn at first it didn't look as if he was flying that low!

  • if you try hard enough you can crater anything

  • Cocky Pilot error fail!

  • Was this film work for "Firebirds" (Originally called "Wings of the Apache" working name). I do know a Bo-105 crashed in the making of "Firebirds" and the pilot died. Does anyone have any more information on this crash?

  • left stick at the top of the turn would have avoided this crash. there is nothing unusual about the BO-105. it is a rigid rotor system, but this was totally avoidable. he simply let his nose down and failed to pull out of the turn in time.

  • One mistake is all it takes unfortunately, he was a good pilot. RIP

  • @eman20083421 Wanker, in 37 supposed years you got fuck all for brains or respect.

  • just a fool doing aros so low in dusty conditions and with out enough hight there is a point in that manuver he should had given negitave pitch to maintain hight and he did not so down it came low to the ground if it was higher he would had got away with it ,it has nothing to do with how the collective is on that heli , they are all different in some way , the basics are the same in all helis and abit easer in a three blader , sad he would had lost his life no dought with the fire , sad

  • That much bank so low.. Not much left to provide lift when the disc is vertical.. There's a video of a russian SAR helicopter doing the same during a demonstration.. Not very wise to bank a helicopter that much... Pilot error all the way...

  • More than 100 years of conflict with aircraft moving at hundreds of miles per hour and the ground moving at zero, the ground has yet to lose.

  • What an amazing pilot.

  • Did not like the ending.

  • he really did deserve that trying to do all those tricks

  • That's an incredibly terrible, does anybody know if this flight was being filmed for commercial, testing, research, or just for entertainment (just happened to be filmed at the time of the tragedy)? That 105 must have been going 150kph when it hit. Instant death, its very tragic. Also, I appreciate that somebody has taken care to remove senseless and heartless posts about this tragedy. Those that post cruel comments have no business on youtube, or in aviation either.

  • WOW...that really sucks!!  RIP

  • With the Red Bull 105 taking all the interest this would seem to be a reminder about the old and the bold but there being few old AND bold pilots!

  • The Video is a test shot for the movie "Fire Birds" since 1990 with Nicolas Cage and Tommy Lee Jones.

  • ouch!....r.i.p. not being sarcastic but this guy was a great pilot. shows you anyone can have an accident.

  • if you ee the comments u think : these people think theyre pilots

  • When he came around that turn it circled versus coming out of it and it bit him in the ass

  • I am inclined to think that there was a little more "bravado than brains" in this clip than anything else. The minute you get too ballsy and "forget" one thing in low level flight is the moment you end up like this unfortunate pilot.

  • ทำไมพลาดตอนที่เป็นท่าง่ายๆ

    น่าเสียดาย

    แสดงความเสียใจด้วย

  • @captgod17332500 @#$%^$!)(&^$#)#&*( wang chung) My fuzzy little third world %!#$^&*&* And in closing im in total agreement with your expert opinion in reguards to this mishap.N.A.S.A. would be proud to have you and barrack is taking applications.Who the hell needs the english language anyways.

  • @captgod17332500 i totally agree

  • @captgod17332500 Allow me to translate... "I finally found a heli school that knows I don't want to learn how to land".....

  • Tragic, and also very sad.

    Aviation is a series of up and downs...

    Sounds like something was learned from this unfortunate tragedy...

    So even though a life was lost - others might be saved.

  • Agreed. To be a test pilot is to be only a moment a way from death. But as you said, others will learn from the mistakes and move forward.

  • I actually sat inside this heli when I was a kid. My Dad worked for MBB in West Chester PA and they built it. I remember when my Dad told me it crashed, and we went back to the hanger to see the wreck behind a black curtain. It looked bad, but not as bad as the video shows. The airframe was still somewhat intact, but the pilot's seat went through the front window. I heard they found him in from of the heli. He was practicing for the movie Firebirds.

  • F$#^...I can totally see myself being the pilot of that 105....my condolences to the family... but hopefully I'm in a 'single seat' when that happens.... and that no one else goes with me....

    once again....my condolences....I'm so sorry,

  • @spadeswings Faggot shut up!

  • @SuperJames2point0 ....what's your problem bud? I was being serious. I'm a professional pilot and I can appreciate the thrill seeking performance this obviously very experienced pilot was after. I'm very sorry for the family that he didn't come home that day. In our industry we have the saying "Respect and learn from the mistakes of the dead, because you don't live long enough to make them all yourself." I thought my sentiments were pretty clear.

    What's your issue kid?

  • @spadeswings Woah woah! Sorry dude! HAha that was sposed to be posted to someone elses comment.

  • Agreed, all respects to this brave pilot.  If you can't do it better than him... shut the F* up! RIP brother.

  • RIP...shame..such a good pilot........such a high and sudden collective pitch induces a yaw movement due to the blades energy from the huge air resistance being transferred back through the rotor shaft after the increased angle of attack on teh blades slows them down!..the induced torque is a real problem at low level...a real shame cos this is now a known factor as Heikokaftan explains....RIP,,,,,,,,very sad ending to a great guys life!

  • @FSXISCOOL Shut the fuck up! Quite trying to sound sophisticated and smart because you just made up all that or googled it. God people like you are fags!

  • @FSXISCOOL What the fuck are you even talkin bout bitch! And you just make yourself sound fuckin retetarded when you say the most random stupid fucking words.

  • L seat is also pic for the 269 and 300 cab over chainsaw.....

  • Siegfrieds accident is used in flight school to teach German Army Bo105 Pilots not to do the same. BTW this accident was more then twenty years ago and may be He didn't even know about this aerodynamic effect yet. His accident had to happen so that others would learn from it. I know all that because I have flown a military Bo105 for the German Army more then 1300hrs.

  • good thing that he didn't died for nothing..so much learn from his accident. RIP

  • I have never read so much crap. This is a real Helicopter! Flown by Siegfried Hermann (not by Karl "Charly Zimmermann). Siegfried was a test pilot working for MBB in Germany. Flying this US registered Helicopter for a movie stunt. The reason that he crashed is a known aerodynamic behavior of the Bo105. Collective pitch pull causes the Helicopter to roll to the right. You do that at low altitude and you get closer to the ground. Usually pitch pull is to gain altitude but in this case it was wrong

  • @heikokaftan Why does pulling pitch cause a right roll on this ship? I've never heard of that but I also know nothing about the Bo 105

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  • R.I.P.

  • Were you actually there for that!???

  • that really sucks. amazing pilot. That lift vector will get you. RIP.

    fuck anyone who talks shit on a dead man.

  • Oh dear he appears to have confused what manouver he was doing with the previous ones.

  • This pilots name was Siegfried "Ziggy" Hoffmann (not Herrmann). He died while training for scenes in an american actionfilm.

  • pink sky lmao

  • what makes you think the right seat isn't the Pilot's seat?

    Hughes/MD500 are the only rotorcraft i' know about piloted from the L seat

  • Enstrom and Hiller to name a couple.

  • cancel christmas a-hole

  • The tail number starts with "N" its registered in the US. He may be practicing an airshow routine, hence the warbird paint scheme.The hingless rotor system relies on the flex of its composite rotors to compensate for assymetric forces during flight. Because there are no flap or lead-lag hinges, the controls are extremely responsive giving it Aerobatic, airplane-like abilities. As for the cause, he seems to have cut it just a little too close.

  • During the right to left pass at 1:00 the pilot is clearly visible.  In helicopters the pilot sits in the right seat. That's why it looks like there is no pilot (unless you look closely.)

  • Only in Robinson and a couple others does the pilot fly from the right seat. Nice try though.

  • What a bullshit man... Nearly every helicopter pilot sits on the RIGHT seat... thruthefence is totaly right, MD uses L seat at md 500 & 600...

  • West German pilots had a rep for cuttin it way close. That whole driving a porche down the autobahn at 150mph thing seemed to apply to thier military aviation organizations. Germany also would have been the first country to be invaded (via the Fulda gap) should WWIII have started. BO-105 crashes like this were common as were low level F-104 starfighter crashes. They went fast, low and close. Often US helicopter pilots would be startled by German F-104s going under them during excercises.

  • montysimmons-"to limited minds perhaps" = A pothead's excuse for lacking the limiting factor of common sense... perhaps.

  • watch?v=s_i84wc_z3g

    Common sense is very limiting.

  • Does anyone know where the ground is...oh ok there it is.

  • To close to the edge of the envelope

  • Don't you mean "outside the envelope?"

  • Darwin award!

  • It does look like an RC Helicopter as when it flys close to the camera there does not appear to be a pilot in the copter.

  • Surely you aren't serious about that comment? RC Helicopters don't explode on impact... Ridiculous comment.

  • I was not referring to a toy RC helicopter, I was referrint to possible testing of a real helicopter being controlled remotely.

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  • That sounds even more implausible...

  • To limited minds, perhaps.

  • watch?v=s_i84wc_z3g

  • poor bugger,, great skills until the last turn :o(

  • Poor bugger???? No sympathy. A skilled pilot displays superior decision making. The aircraft gave him what he asked for. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • Pilot error -- too low to the ground to try that maneuver at that speed. Oh well.

  • Too stupid....

  • back to the drawing board...

  • Gravity and the ground are always in a fight with aircraft.How one uses the relationship between the two determines whether you win or lose that fight...Some lose...

  • @spaz41 How about a shorter summary! The Pilot was a Dumbass.

  • @kookaburrakookaburra ha ha or even shorter  dick !

  • looks like he stalled, in a way.. going sideways, lost lift.. gravity, speed did the rest i guess. R.I.P friend!

    :::peace:::

  • "the NTSB report simply stated that he misjudged his altitude during the maneuver..."

  • It is standard knowledge that in a loop, full or half with a roll, you lose altitude. He didn't think ahead and that is what happened!!!

  • Dont be a mug thats not an rc heli what you on???

  • ur a dumbshit, its at a live us firing range (i thnk, dont live in us)which is used by air force and in this case, army, and an rc helicopter would not sound like the real one...

  • While I am sad for the loss of an obviously talented pilot, I am glad to hear that rumors of Mr. Zimmerman's death were greatly exaggerated. Thanks for the info.

  • This accident happened because of a BO 105 typical aerodynamic behavior. Because of its rigid Rotor system the BO 105 has a reaction following a collective pitch adjustment which causes the helicopter to roll to the right and nose up when the collective is pulled and roll to the left and nose down when the collective is lowered. In normal flight that behavior is not a problem but in steep turn, especially in steep right turns it can be fatal. The pilot was the chief testpilot of MBB at that time

  • Hydrolic lockup? Froze cyclic control maybe?

  • Too low to correct for his mistake.

  • Looks like there was more to it than that, he may have fell through but the 105 is pretty capable. Altitude is always our friend, that is true! He was definately low and the ground is definately unforgiving. Thanks. ;)

  • wtf stupid manouver.. low altitud fatal error of the pilot rip

  • oh shit, RIP :(

  • I think his name was Karl Zimmerman, not Chuck. He was a German test pilot.

  • His first name is Karl, which the english equivalent is Charles and short for that is Chuck. So, in a way, Thomassne, Dobermansrock is correct.

  • It was flown by Chuck Zimmerman. A very good pilot. This was an unfortunate day for Aviation. Another true rotor head gone. R.I.P. Chuck you really were an amazing over the top pilot. Things happen when you play with gravity...

  • yes there was a family of deer having a picnic you noob..

  • control lock-up?

  • Hot doggin' way to hard..Stupid idiot.

  • 9/20/89 TUCKERTON, NJ

    MBB BO-105 N5353V

    1 Fatal

    A/C ENTERED SHALLOW CLIMB & STEEP TURN AT LOW ALTITUDE. RECOVERY INITIATED, HELICOPTER STRUCK GROUND BEFORE RECOVERY. NO PRE-EXISTING FAILURE OR MALFUNCTION OF ENG OR AIRFRAME. MANEUVER MAX BANK 98 DEGREES & MAX ALT 75 FT AGL. RECOVERY NOT INITIATED UNTIL .5 SECONDS PAST APEX OF MANEUVER.

    The NTSB determines probable cause of this accident as follows:

    THE PILOT'S DELAY IN REMEDIAL ACTION BY DELAYING THE PULL-UP FROM A DESCENDING MANEUVER.

  • Thanks for the info. scanfan.I've seen and heard conflicting info. about this video over the years.I flip-flopped back and forth about posting it but in the end,it might just give pause to a few of those "hot-shot" wanna-be's out there that even the best can make mistakes...

  • Spaz - thanks for posting it. Interesting that the NTSB confined their conclusion to that last maneuver with no mention of the context of the demonstration. Do you have any info as to why the aircraft was being flown so hard? Was it a sales demo? How'd you get the entire tape? And if he had not hesitated the recovery for that half second...???

  • Scanfan-This video and many other helo. related vids was given to me on a cd-r by an intructor at a Bell field maint. course I went through a few years back.He told me that the pilot was demonstrating the manueverability of the BO105 for a Hollywood production co. that was gearing up for a Bond movie.Don't know if is true or not...Maybe I'll post some of the other vids. one of these days...

  • Thats sad :( the pilot was very talented, and the bo-105 is one of the most manuverable choppers out there. I hope it was quick for the pilot.

  • Total - he didnt feel a thing

  • No it wasn`t in germany... R.I.P Boy... You`re my little hero ;)

  • was it in germany?

  • This ist NOT Charly Zimermann!!!

    This ist Sigfried (Ziggy) Hermann, he was a pilot too, and he worked together with Charly Zimermann!

  • rip a tallented pilot its a sad case of it was going to hapen sooner or later i prefer watching him in low flying bo105 particularly when he takes the top of a tree off magnificent

  • why is purple this video?

  • because not filmed on good qaulity equipment

  • ouu shit very bad accident!!!

    i love this aerovatic helicopter

  • Just exceeded the limitations of a B105 with tragic results.

  • holy shit

  • Oha that crash is terrible :(

  • I have seen this video once before and was told that it was the great Charlie Zimmerman's last flight. Anybody have any info?

  • MBB / Eurocopter Cheftestpilot Sigi

    Hofmann am 20.8.1989 in der Nähe von Philadelphia auf der Warren Grove

    Range!

  • Yeah,it sure does...But he who lives by the sword...

  • Puts a lump in your throat, don't it,

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