Turtur Zero Point Energy Rotor

[FujiSatori]

It surrounds us, let's all support zero point energy and live truly free.

keep spreading the word

[jonathoncrowe28]

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[lekernel]

This is a ion wind engine and nothing else. The "imperfections" are actually what drives the rotor. Otherwise, explain how it is different from youtube dot com/watch?v=sBNCMtSAbvY

[savepenguintrees]

Can anyone confirm that it rotates counter clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere ?

I always suspected that the water in my toilet was being rotated by zero-point energy and not the Coriolis effect.

Perhaps if I say it in a German accent, people with think I am intelligent ?

[bubi1954]

Der obere Teil sieht aus wie der Deckel von einer Nivea Creme Dose

[108Satyam]

@bubi1954

In English: The top part looks like the upper shell of a can of hand creme?

[priveprive]

@108Satyam It is! A can of Nivea. He says that some other video. Don´t remember which.

[0008DEVA]

@bubi1954

Um das geht es hier nicht :(

[hpeterh]

Der Rotor, der hier gezeigt wird, rotiert doch falschrum.

Nach Professor Turturs Theorie müsste er andersrum rotieren.

Ist das schonmal jemand aufgefallen?

[108Satyam]

@hpeterh

Babylon 9 Translation: The rotor, the shown here will be rotated, but liked. According to Professor Turturs theory he had to rotate the other way round. It is noticed that someone had already?

[hpeterh]

@108Satyam

Excuse for writing german here. Your translation is correct.

I must add, I am not absolutely shure anymore about the "correct" direction.

I understood, that in theory field and casimir pressure are stronger above the rotor, so it should rotate like that.

But I have seen other videos now where the direction is the same as in your video.

I have also seen a computer generated video where it had the other direction.

[108Satyam]

@hpeterh

Thanks hpeterh. Not really my video, and Professor Turtur is so busy with his regular job and new found "celebrity" with his algorithm and 1 KW "motor/generator" that he doesn't have time to correspond with me much these days, but I will ask him to read and address your comments as he has time.

[hpeterh]

For other experimenters that might want to repeat the experiment I want to share some ideas:

Look to my Video reply Turtur ZPE Rotor Version II.

Read my explanation there.

Important is:

Use positive Voltage to minimize ion production.

Smaller should be better it is easier to get perfect rotational field symmetry.

The whole thing should be as accurate as possible.

Plastic foil could be used and then made conductive with graphite spray, so filling around with aluminium foil is avoidable.

[Laurentdamois]

In this experiment you have a vertical rotor, do you have made this experiment with an horizontal rotor, which axis have a parallel B field direction (North-South) or orthogonal B Field direction(East-West) ?

Laurent DAMOIS

[hpeterh]

Goto Prof. Turturs website and read "Fundamental: Proof of zero-point energy", Page 65.

There he claims 0.5 .. 1.5 rotations per hour at 25 kV in a vacuum chamber.

Do I understand this right? This would not be a proof at all. This rotation can be made by spurious undetected sparks, by thermal convection, by mechanical vibrations from vacuum pump. Why this difference?

Therefore I think I stop this, and better avoid a disappointment.

[108Satyam]

@hpeterh

do you have a link to the paper you're referring to? All of the periods in the link need to be written as (dot) so that Youtube(dot)com will let it appear in the post.

[hpeterh]

@108Satyam

It is on his german site only:

w w w (dot)ostfalia.de/cms/de/pws/tu­rtur/FundE

Look there for "(2.) Fundamental: Proof of zero-point energy"

For the courtesy of all experimenters:

Very affordable HV Generator: (Costs in Germany about 8 Euro)

w w w (dot)kemo-electronic.de/en/Hob­by-School/B137N-Ion-generator(­dot)php

This device needs modification to produce positive Voltage, but it should be easy.

It should also be easy to add a cascade Voltage doubler.

[108Satyam]

@hpeterh

yes, I found the paper you refer to and yes, you are correct on the time. I think this is probably why, as he explains in his most recent paper philica(dot)com/display_articl­e(dot)php?article_id=219 that he has moved on to the electromagnetic model, as it will be a much more convincing verification of his DFEM theory.

I see that you have commented (in German, no less) on his Die Vakumfeldenergie video

[hpeterh]

Ok, I tried this with a 25 kV supply (anode Voltage of an old Monitor)

Couldnt get any rotation, but 3 cm sparks ;-)

Probably an adjustable source is needed for fine-trimming ;-)

[108Satyam]

@hpeterh

or maybe adjust so that the rotor is just out of the range where it will arc? I'd run this by Professor Turtur, but he's insanely busy these days after publishing his last two papers on self running ZPE generators.

[hpeterh]

@108Satyam

It is difficult to handle with this Voltage. You have to keep away 30 cm. If I go to near cables are attracted by electrostatic force and that is life-dangerous if you arent aware what you do. (I am)

I look for another HV source.

[MucusFelidae]

What a nonsense.

[hpeterh]

@MucusFelidae

I love high Voltage experiments ;-)

[108Satyam]

@hpeterh

Not a fake - Professor Turtur is the real deal and the current best chance at bridging the gap between Free Energy mavericks and Establishment Academia. His latest work is "DFEM-Simulation of a Zero-point-energy Converter with realisable Dimensions and a Power-output in the Kilowatt-range" available here:

philica(dot)com/display_articl­e(dot)php?article_id=219

[hpeterh]

@108Satyam

OK, thank you.

But is there a competent answer for my other technical proposals?

Why a new machine? Judging from this video, this effect is so strong, with good isolation and precision measurement thats available in any normal electronic labor at an university, this effect should be scientifically proofable with ease and without vacuum....

[108Satyam]

@hpeterh

If you read Professor Turtur's 2 latest papers at philica, you'll understand his evolution from this simple rotor to a spring powered capacitor motor to a device that can not only self power but generate a kilowatt of power on the side. He had to go to the much stronger effect of a permanent magnet, but the principle remains the same - pulling energy from the vacuum/Aether/Akasha. He's looking for people to build ZPE motor and verify theory. R U experimenter?

[hpeterh]

@108Satyam

I made experiments with Biefield Brown effect some time ago. Im involved in industrial electronics and as most other electronics guys I dont love the magnetic field too much ;-)

I love this motor in your video for its simplicity and transparency. I hope to repeat this experiment as soon as possible, using glass and transparent plastics. I will seal the rotation element, so no interaction with air can occur. I hope to post a video reply, if success ;-)

[hpeterh]

Also I intend to insert an isolating dieelecritic plate that prevents current flow but increases the strengt of the electric field and allows for higher Voltages ;-)

[108Satyam]

@hpeterh

Good luck, and yes, please do post a video of your work.

[hpeterh]

@108Satyam

Just to add this: Even if there where no overunity and the energy win would be zero, if this moves eternally it would be a sensation.

Also I ask myself, why does this run for days with a charged ballon? This alone would be a scientific proof.

I do however not belive that a charged ballon keeps it charge over days, so this is a riddle.

More explanation and better (video) documentation please.

[hpeterh]

Parts should be covered with plastics and th water with Oil This would avoid allleakage currents. Why is the Water so deep? Why does it wobble? Is there a magnetic stirrer at the ground? ;-)

[hpeterh]

This looks like a very strong effect, very different from the description in Prof. Turturs public document. If all mettallic parts where coated with plastics, then Current should go to zero and proof where posssible without vacuum.

Are you sure, this isnt a fake? It looks unbelievable.

Best,

Peter

[ExploreMan2010]

This is a very simple demonstration with low cost. What kind of technik does have the military industrial complex with millions and billions of money in their laboratorys? This bastards fool us!!

[pinemontgo]

Uh hello ! ... Its a high frequency magnetic field !

[108Satyam]

@pinemontgo

wrong. Please listen to Professor Turtur's explanation again.

[insaneAnimeLover]

It only consumes 2 nW? At 10 kV that would mean it only needs 0.2 pA.

But then why do you need a transformer?

If it really only needs that little power you could just rub a balloon on your hair and hold it over the device and it should spin for days without recharging the balloon.

[108Satyam]

@insaneAnimeLover

Can you get 10 KV from a balloon in your hair? How do you hold the balloon without discharging it? How to keep the balloon from rupturing when you test it in a vacuum?

[insaneAnimeLover]

@108Satyam

You can easily get 100kV from rubbing a balloon on your hair.

The balloon is insulating so it won't discharge if you hold it.

In a vacuum you couldn't use a normal balloon but you could instead use a plastic sphere.

[ogskeetdizzle]

is this similar to the theory's found by Schauberger and his implosion engine.

[DaronchoFromHell]

Hello professor, I have a question about the experiment. What happen if, after reaching the 10kv and while the rotor spins, I turn off the transformer? Would the rotor keep spining endlessly? Thank you in advance.

[chapthe]

Bravo Herr Turtur. Grosse Sache.

[brianempson]

Wow this is neat. Is it really that simple? Orient the blades a certain way and put a high voltage potential over them? Sounds neat!

[crippled82]

Reminds me of pulling water apart using static fields zero current.. ;)

[joethewhite]

I played with a similiar device over 20 years ago. I used a Tesla coil, high voltage diode, and a wire assembly that looked a lot like the German swatstika. In the center of the wire assembly I had a blob of solder with a small dent on the underside. This ballanced on a pin which was insulated and charged to minus 25,000 volts. It would spin faster than 60 rpm. Nothing new here!

[108Satyam]

Response From Professor Turtur, Part 1:

The little demonstration with a "rotating star" under air and high voltage (the shape reminds him of the German swastika) is well known. It is a rather old demonstration. It rotates under air, but it does not rotate inside the vacuum and it consumes much more electrical energy than it produces mechanical energy of rotation.

[108Satyam]

Response From Professor Turtur, Part 2:

The reason is very simple: It is driven by gas ions, which transport electrical charge.

In my experiment the situation is completely different, because the rotor also works inside the vacuum and there are no ions transporting electrical charges. Thus there is (almost) no electrical current. I explain this in the narration of my video. Does joethewhite have a technical problem to hear my spoken text in the video - maybe a technical problem?

[ThorGoLucky]

If there was that much energy that can be extracted from the the vaccuum of space, it would have a huge warping affect on space-time, and the existing observations of galaxies and our universe don't jibe with such a claim.

Until it's verified that more energy is coming out of the device than going in, I'll assume that Claus Turtur is either doing a hoax, doesn't know what he's doing (not accounting for other hypotheses for phenomena), or scamming gullible people for investor money.

[clipper0udo2]

@ThorGoLucky

That much energy? The amount of energy required to rotate that can is minuscule..

As such your claim about existing observations re galaxies etc is equally absurd.

What observations do you refer to exactly?

[XaeroVincent]

This works likes he claims but only inside a vacuum chamber at high-vacuum pressure. At atmospheric pressure the vast majority of power is derived from recoils of ion wind. Mr. Turtur even mentions this fact in his papers but also mentions successful operation inside a laboratory vacuum chamber.

This demonstration with a rotor in air is just a proof of concept of what to expect.

[108Satyam]

This from Prof. Turtur:

It is correct that under air many gas ions will be generated due to the large electrostatic field and field gradient. Thus under air, the ion wind brings a serious contribution to the drive of the rotor. The request to exclude, that only gas ions drive the rotor, I brought the rotor-experiment into the vacuum. And there it also rotated. Thus we know, that my theory (with the rotor driven by electrostatic forces due the the zero-point energy of the vacuum) is correct.

[108Satyam]

Yes, Xaero Vincent states correctly:

The demonstration with a rotor in air is just a proof of concept of what to expect.

And he is also correct: I observed successful operation inside a laboratory vacuum chamber.

I want to add: This operation inside the vacuum-chamber is the proof of my theory.

And there is an additional hint:

If there is only the drive by gas ions (as under a pressure of 1...10 mbars) with a voltage of few 100 Volts, the rotor does not rotate.

Sincerely Yours

Claus

[ThorGoLucky]

There's water in the vacuum chamber, so there's already a flow of water vapor, eh?

[batsenn]

@ThorGoLucky : I agree completely, testing this unit in vacuum is definitely no proof that the rotor turns without gas ions. If there is any liquid water inside the vacuum chamber there will be water molecules in the 'vacuum'.

[caru83]

@batsenn I just read his papers on this experiment, you can download them too. He didn't use water in the vacuum test, but only vacuum-oil.

[caru83]

@ThorGoLucky No, he didn't use water in the vacuum test, you can download his paper about these experiments.

[overunitydotcom]

Well done Professor Turtur.

Do you connect the ground wire from your

HV power supply to the bowl ?

Can you also run it from a charged up High Voltage capacitor ?

How long ?

I will open up a new thread about it on

my overunityDOTcom forum.

Regards, Stefan.

[TinselKoala]

The yellow wire that is connected to the bowl is the ground wire from the PS.

If there is no current flowing, why does there need to be a physical circuit? If there is no current flowing, why not show it by putting a picoammeter in series?

Is there a current flowing in this video:

watch?v=AX-jrlGC-aA&NR=1

[ashtweth]

Emphatic proof of the vacuum , a land mark demonstration Claus, humanity is in your debt my friend. We must support your work thank you dearly from the FREE energy community you are an inspiration to us Claus !! Well done!!!!!

[MrFlathunter]

Great work Professor Turtur! I am following your results with great interest.  :)