That line is exactly what I said when I was lying in a hospital bed cursing god and questioning everything I ever knew. This song echos so much of what I have felt sense that night.
@jekyllnhydebaby The thing that you don't understand is that there is a reason that everything happens. Whenever something goes wrong I thank God because His plan for my day is better than mine. He knows what's best for me. And for everyone else. I've been through a lot in my life too and things always turned out alright in the end, and the worst thing that ever happened to me actually turned into a blessing after it was over. There's a reason that everything happens.
I'm not Christian, nor do I claim affiliation to any other religion. But this song and this band are every bit as beautiful for those who struggle to some purpose in their life.
i love this song because it reminds me of the old songs they used to write about how perfect god is and how we need to look towards him for guidance and stufffffffff haha
i am by no means religious but i admire their passion of their faith and their creativity that enables them to speak their mind to use and still kind of relate... they are an amazing band <3
this is about questioning faith but at the same time, this song is a prayer. read the lyrics because the is by meaning by paragraphs and not sentences. That is how Oh, Sleeper wrote it.
From watching his interview on the album. I believe this song is the moment in the album where the point of view changes from the christian father who has been losing his faith up until now, to the atheist daughter who is just starting to embrace her faith which is mixed in with confusion, questions, and doubts and no one to guide her through the right path.
@TeeTownVideos I feel like the song implies some hypocritical meaning with how they say, "standing for your God by becoming something so far off..." like they mean you're doing things apart from how you make them seem to be. Do you know what i mean?
@Legendman120 I see you're point, I think... By doing what you think is right in order to gain strength may just be leading you farther from your true self.
@Skinnazation Oh, Sleeper is a Christian Metal, (i like to call it hardcore since it has more of a beat than trashy death metal) but they have a few slow songs. If you listen to the rest of their album, Children of Fire, you'll see that most of their songs are hardcore, or "metal"
@SodaPoptheDewMan naw i meant trashy but i guess i was kinda vague. I meant that i don't like music where all they do is just scream their heads off with no purpose or beat to the song. Personally I HATE that kind of music.
@XxtreehuggerX101x "The lion will lay down with the lamb" is a quote from Isaiah 11 in the Bible. Both Twilight and Oh, Sleeper are alluding to this verse. However, Oh Sleeper is more than a million times better. xD
For all the people who are confused about this song, its about the doubts that satan and your mind will tell you. Dont you see the irony is very powerful in this song beacuse your mind always tries to doubt the power of God. "You gave me a voice that speaks out, but paired it with a mind thats filled with doubt" "I cant change what I am, Lions always kill the Lambs" Basically your mind tells yourself that your chance of changing your bad ways is as far off as lions not killing lambs.
@TeeTownVideos Thank you for that explanation. I knew that this song was deeply philosophical, and I knew it had a pretty important meaning so I favorited it, but I couldn't figure out what he was trying to say in this song. (there's no sarcasm here, I really appreciate you taking the time to help explain the lyrics, and helping give people a deeper understanding of the song's meaning.)
@Drumwannabe17 No problem man :) TBH im still a little confused on a small section of the song, but i do understand the basic meaning of it, if you know what i mean
No one can save you from it, only yourself being strong enough to break the habits that drag you below! I prayed for everyone with the same problems as me in the world the other day, maybe my prayer was for you too! Take care, hope you find yourself and get there! Cause everyone can if we can learn to fly with planes we can overcome an addiction!
@eddiemet12 I'm going through the same thing brother hence my account name... I was shooting up roxies, meth, snorting pills. Just look up to the sky to god and deal with the pain you can get through it cause I'm on the way to being who god meant for me to be! I promise bro your not alone, I know the pain is horrible and makes you anxious and paranoid. But what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I've had so many i.v.'s in my arms because of all the drugs so many times I shouldn't be here....
This is a concept album about the world after God fights Satan. The character speaking these lines was originally an atheist who begins to seek God for the first time. As she tries to figure all of these things out, she has a lot of questions and has to come to grips with the fact that she cannot understand every aspect.
@MrJazzblue not sure if that's sarcasm or not, so i'll answer anyway. he's talking about the skepticism a lot of people face with believing in god. like why does he allow bad things to happen to people, would he embrace the dead who didn't believe in him before they died, etc.
@MrJazzblue he's talking about God, and expressing his doubts with god and etc, he's talking to God in the song, when he say's "you" he's referring to God.
@eddiemet12 Bro, I was right where you are 11 months ago. I had a raging Heroin addiction and I felt so hopeless. I literally wanted to, and tried to die. I had tried almost everything for 5 years to get clean, but I just kept going back to my old habits. It wasn't until I looked to my Higher Power for help that I actually managed to get sober. If you ever need someone to talk to man, hit me up. And remember, it IS possible to get better, and it's not as hopeless as it mght seem.
The Lord is calling you out, hun! Whatever it may be, just remember: with God all things are possible! Look to the Father, let go of your burdens, and He will carry them for you. Put all of the energy that usually goes to your "unholy" desires into knowing Christ better and having a stronger relationship, and He will become your desire, what you long for... just know that your energy will not be wasted there, for He is longing for you. May your soul find peace.
just remember, faith is not one sided, it needs to be two sided, both your side and our side. if you have no doubts you could say to a mountain "Throw yourself in the sea" and it will do so, but even a sliver of doubt, even doubt the size of a quark, the smallest know particle, is enough to keep it from being so
black veil brides - new religion" We are the unholy We are the bastard sons of your media culture Our minds, eyes and bodies were born of your exclusion An illusion you hide behind You don’t love a God, you love your comfort To you we are filth, we are dirty, so be it We are dirty and unclean, a congregation of the unseen Together we will set this world on fire! This is the New Religion! AMEN!
If someone could like me a explanation of the story explaining each song that would be great, I would really like too understand this album better, it's beautiful
James Erwin from Oh Sleeper talks about this album on metalunderground(dot)com/interviews. Check it out for those who are interested, just scroll to the bottom and look for Sep.21,2011. Praise God for this band.
@rainStormBaby They repeat some of this in The Family Ruin, all their music seems to piece together in every album like every song completing each other. It's incredible if you ask me :)
@Pandap0wer It's totally incredible. These people are amazing musicians. They're the best christian hardcore band I've ever heard. Best hardcore band altogether if you ask me. lol
I hope I'm not coming off as a jerk. I'm just stating what Ive heard/know. I'm not trying to start a debate or anything. I love Oh Sleeper and you do too so :D
But I've also been to Oh Sleeper shows and they've all acknowledged Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. And they hope to get the message of the Gospel out to people at their shows, that's why they are in this band.
How can they ignore/ acknowledge something that doesn't exist? If you believe there's a higher power, then you're no longer atheist; you're agnostic. That's all I'm saying.
@pmusicmaker idk its what i was told. it sounds like he wants to believe, but cant find the means to.
and are you saying all atheists should ignore God or Alah or Yawei or whatever is out there, just because acknowledging about them is a contradiction, especially when all your bandmates do?
Is this song from the atheistic daughters point of view or the turning away priests point of view...I think the daughter right? Pleading with God to give her a sign?
@plamer1fan They mean the son of God When he says if im to find the sun i need something more than song to pull me from this cave of questioning, The way that i see is the Son is Jesus the son of God is our shepard and the holly spirit is the Shepard's cane and God is the father of the Shepard and all of his of his sheep. The Cave of questioning is satans reign on the earth, There for Satan is like an wolf in sheep's clothing in the wilde trying to steer us away from our Shepard and Father.
the whole album tells a story and this song is where the person that they are using as perspective is talking about how God doesnt make sense to him because of contradictions in the bible(even tho these contradictions are about the metaphoric symbols like "the Lion and the Lamb" and etc.)
Every Metalcore band should have a solid acoustic song like this. I also love how Oh, Sleeper doesnt do Breakdown after breakdown. August Burns Red, Killswitch Engage, As i Lay Dying, All That Remains, and Oh, Sleeper are by far the best metalcore bands
Hey guys it would be so awesome if you liked my facebook page called "New Metal, Metalcore, and Deathcore Bands/Songs Every Day". I just posted a song by these guys :)
the whole album came through my subscription notification thingy... i dont know the band so i picked one song to listen to randomly - i chose this and its by far the best on the album..
Does anyone know the tabs for this song, or know where I can find them? I figured out the first bit, with the fingerpicking. But everything after that I'm pretty clueless on, haha :P
@AbbehRose someone who got the pre-order tab book has probably put it up on a site. If you can't find a good one I'll try and put it up when I get mine.
@blackearth153 Oh wow, there was a tab book if you pre-ordered it?? I really regret not doing that now ): And I have looked for the tabs online already, but I literally can't find anything.
@AbbehRose really that's unusual. So many people must be practicing the songs so they haven't had time to put it up yet, or their just selfish. Plus it takes a while to write out tabs.
Song is amazing, talks about faith and doubt, to understand this song I recommend reading the books of luke and john in the bible, some of the lyrics are those exact parables.
The perfect "means to believe" is the Bible + History + Quantum Physics = Obvious God exists. I love Oh Sleeper in every way. Amazing band and amazing guys. I attribute the brilliance of their new album to God...and "Chet" of course...
@ghostgate82 I really don't know if you know about anything about quatum phasics but it does totally not prove gods existence. But where I must agree with you is that this band is awesome even if i can't indentify with their belives. But the sound is still really powerfull.
@BracDav If I didn't know anything about quantum physics, I wouldn't have brought it up. When two different people look at the same thing but have two diametrically opposed pre-conceived understandings, that one piece of evidence may seem "different" depending on the belief of the person. I say QP proves God's existence because I know the MARKERS to look for while studying QP because of my theological and science background. You obviously don't have a theological background.
@ghostgate82 Well yes is is like that. But you need to see that science with theological background has absolute now kind of scientific value, no offense to you but science isn't about personal feelings. It is and should be only about rational fact.
The same is for people who wanna disprove god with science. This is not possible because you can only do one thing at a time either thelogy or science. So I would say both side need to know what they can and can't do. It's just that simple...
@BracDav lol I'm afraid its not "just that simple." There is a scientific explanation for everything. There most certainly IS a God, your God. Your statement is quite bold, and utterly obtuse friend. ghostgate is right on... couldn't have said it better myself. People who desire to be associated with the scientific community but lack the education and frontal lobe to do so often make the same bold statement, because they are afraid of what cannot yet be explained.
@wesleyryanjohnson It occurs to me that you know nothing about science and scientists. Why we should be afraid of those things we are not yet able to explain? It is quite much our job to find things that we do not understand now and try to find explanations. And therefore god is as unimportant as he is irelevant for science because the hypothesis of god works only as long as he can no be explained scietificly by definition.
@hobojoe102 Well there you are just wrong. There are expriments which clearly could prove the theory of relativity. And love will be or is at least partly understood neuro biology. And yes the only point where you are right is that god is not to prove with the methods of science. Because of that a clearly stated before that god is completly irrelevant for science. What doesn't mean god couldn't exist. But by terms of probabillity god is quite improbable in the eyes of true science and scientists
@BracDav To play the devils advocate here...from a Biblical standpoint that is... Why would you say God is irrelevant to science when He would be in fact the maker of what we know as science? Wouldnt that make Him completely relevant? How can science answer how the earth/universe/humans were made with logical probabilities? Faith in this case would be more important then what we would consider "facts" and faith is what being a Christian is all about.
@Estel2931 I see what you want to do. No, I will not go on a debate on evolution or creationism (or intelligent design or however you call the same thing over and over again). It is not because I would have not enough arguments. But sorry in this question there is no real discussing in it. Because it would create the misbelieve that creationism and such things are even worth to dispute by real scientists. But i is just not a topic for science but for theology like a said before.
@VulgarIniquities So there is the point where we always will have another opinion... And that what is the most important part to get. All we can have as human are opinions. Such a thing as absolute truth a human never will have. Thereby also important is to see that a true scientist always will say that hes in a process to approximate the truth, while relegion state to have the absolute truth and this is nothing but arrogant.
@VulgarIniquities I do not refuse that probably some kind of god would not work with science. But the christian god (along with Allah and Yahweh) do really not work with science. Well this is probably to harsh also. Because those gods in it self probably do not but with a lot of the tales in the specific holy books do and will never work hand in hand with science.
if God created the universe, He already proved He can go against what science says is impossible. a God is the only way things in the bible can be possible and science can prove that the universe has to have a God.
btw, Yahweh and Allah is the Christian/Judaic God. Yahweh is the Hebrew name and Allah is the Arabic name
@shesatwitcher I know this. But i don't really see what this statement brings new to this discussion. I would be glad if you would explain further what you meant to say with it.
well through scientific research i found that there has to be a being working outside the governing laws of the universe, aka, a god of some sort. ive researched the bible, finding it to be historically correct. such things as the "Red Sea Crossing" have had much supporting evidence found in the last hundred years
@SPitFyRe666 This band is christian & they project that in their songs, if you have a problem with that, I have an amazingly simple solution DON'T LISTEN. There problem solved and it's a win-win, you don't have a problem with the message their spreading and we don't have to deal with you.
@SPitFyRe666 Not really. Because I know that you live to make people mad over the internet, which just screams out coward, who can't do confrontations face to face. Sincerely someone with a bachelors degree in psychology.
@fromlightcomesshadow I love that you just throw it out there that you "have" a Bachelors in Psychology. We all know that's a load of shit. Try getting a real degree.
@BracDav Actually, the emotion we call love is understood by neurobiology. This is truly affection, not love. True love is love by choice, to include loving those you have no feelings of affection for, or even feelings of hatred.
I love this its so inspiring
Keelman122 1 day ago
did any body else notice the skull in the clouds?? XD (cool song btw XD)
R3Disdabestband 1 day ago
I had no idea this was a Christian band until just recently,but ever since I found that out I love it even more! Glory to God in the highest!
msbea1997 2 days ago
<3 this song so mcuh
LRxXSnipninZombiesXx 3 days ago
"Answer me, please.........."
That line is exactly what I said when I was lying in a hospital bed cursing god and questioning everything I ever knew. This song echos so much of what I have felt sense that night.
jekyllnhydebaby 3 days ago
@jekyllnhydebaby Do you still feel this way?
7792thereaper 2 days ago
@7792thereaper yes, i do
jekyllnhydebaby 2 days ago
@jekyllnhydebaby The thing that you don't understand is that there is a reason that everything happens. Whenever something goes wrong I thank God because His plan for my day is better than mine. He knows what's best for me. And for everyone else. I've been through a lot in my life too and things always turned out alright in the end, and the worst thing that ever happened to me actually turned into a blessing after it was over. There's a reason that everything happens.
7792thereaper 2 days ago
@7792thereaper things haven't always turned out right for me
jekyllnhydebaby 1 day ago
@jekyllnhydebaby Things don't always seem right, but in the end it's for the best in one way or another.
7792thereaper 1 day ago
I'm in love with this song!
Melobione1 1 week ago
I'm not Christian, nor do I claim affiliation to any other religion. But this song and this band are every bit as beautiful for those who struggle to some purpose in their life.
SeasideVultures 1 week ago 2
MY CRUSH
Y U NO GIVE ME THE MEANS TO BELIEVE ?!
MrSlipknot996 1 week ago
I love the Plato reference. So good <3
KyrosinX 1 week ago
@KyrosinX WHERE is the Plato reference in this song? The prospect itself just blows my mind.
MetalCrusade777 5 days ago
@MetalCrusade777 "If I'm to find the sun, I need something more than song to pull me from this cave of questioning." EH EH EH Allegory of the Cave!
KyrosinX 4 days ago
LOL at god.
BulletFMVal88 1 week ago
@BulletFMVal88 LOL at how you are intentionally trying to piss people off with that comment.
DodgerBL 5 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
@DodgerBL Nope. Personal belief: LOL at God.
BulletFMVal88 4 days ago
i love this song because it reminds me of the old songs they used to write about how perfect god is and how we need to look towards him for guidance and stufffffffff haha
MrWhocares747 2 weeks ago
i am by no means religious but i admire their passion of their faith and their creativity that enables them to speak their mind to use and still kind of relate... they are an amazing band <3
CraigPK95 2 weeks ago
This is song is amazing!!
I love this song :D
jerry5236 2 weeks ago
this is about questioning faith but at the same time, this song is a prayer. read the lyrics because the is by meaning by paragraphs and not sentences. That is how Oh, Sleeper wrote it.
Terminal331 2 weeks ago
This song is obviously about him questioning his faith.I dont know what you people are talking about.
DiamondPurity 3 weeks ago
God is awesome!
LowNSlowIII 3 weeks ago
From watching his interview on the album. I believe this song is the moment in the album where the point of view changes from the christian father who has been losing his faith up until now, to the atheist daughter who is just starting to embrace her faith which is mixed in with confusion, questions, and doubts and no one to guide her through the right path.
cave251 4 weeks ago
How does even 1 person dislike this...?
OhhGeeLoko 1 month ago in playlist Oh, Sleeper 'Children Of Fire'
this song kills the album, should be at the end and dont stop the power of the album in the middle.
Shyftus 1 month ago
@Shyftus sorry buddy, you are what i consider an immature listener of good music.
ThePestilentDefiler 1 month ago in playlist Oh, Sleeper "Children of Fire"
@ThePestilentDefiler you dont understand, i like the song, but it is in the wrong spot :)
Shyftus 1 month ago
I'm atheist but I like this band and song. i respec that if somebody believes in god.
wattuq 1 month ago 13
you could listen to this song 100 different times and interepret it in 100 different ways. shut up and enjoy
addchild16 1 month ago 3
Amazing power, a song for all those searching...
SkimShades117 1 month ago 3
@TeeTownVideos I feel like the song implies some hypocritical meaning with how they say, "standing for your God by becoming something so far off..." like they mean you're doing things apart from how you make them seem to be. Do you know what i mean?
Legendman120 1 month ago
@Legendman120 I see you're point, I think... By doing what you think is right in order to gain strength may just be leading you farther from your true self.
SkimShades117 1 month ago
is this christian metal??? please answer me
Skinnazation 1 month ago
@Skinnazation Oh, Sleeper is a Christian Metal, (i like to call it hardcore since it has more of a beat than trashy death metal) but they have a few slow songs. If you listen to the rest of their album, Children of Fire, you'll see that most of their songs are hardcore, or "metal"
TeeTownVideos 1 month ago
@TeeTownVideos is that true
Skinnazation 1 month ago
@TeeTownVideos i hope you mean thrashy and not trashy!
SodaPoptheDewMan 1 month ago in playlist Oh, Sleeper 'Children Of Fire'
@SodaPoptheDewMan naw i meant trashy but i guess i was kinda vague. I meant that i don't like music where all they do is just scream their heads off with no purpose or beat to the song. Personally I HATE that kind of music.
TeeTownVideos 1 month ago
BEST OH SLEEPER SONG EVER ON CHILDERN OF FIRE THIS SONG BEATS ANY OTHER BANDS OF ALL TIME
cable99100 1 month ago
First time I hear it, it will give my music sharper edge and calming, thick sound, I believe.
OmenDose33 1 month ago
this song gave me chills. Im obsessed with his voice... no homo
MrSlamboarding 1 month ago
@XxtreehuggerX101x "The lion will lay down with the lamb" is a quote from Isaiah 11 in the Bible. Both Twilight and Oh, Sleeper are alluding to this verse. However, Oh Sleeper is more than a million times better. xD
jpat09 2 months ago
Proverbs 3
takumi214 2 months ago
For all the people who are confused about this song, its about the doubts that satan and your mind will tell you. Dont you see the irony is very powerful in this song beacuse your mind always tries to doubt the power of God. "You gave me a voice that speaks out, but paired it with a mind thats filled with doubt" "I cant change what I am, Lions always kill the Lambs" Basically your mind tells yourself that your chance of changing your bad ways is as far off as lions not killing lambs.
TeeTownVideos 2 months ago 43
@TeeTownVideos That is stupid as shit.
getintoawheelchair 2 months ago
@getintoawheelchair How? You dont like Christian music?
TeeTownVideos 1 month ago
@getintoawheelchair If you were a Christian you wouldnt think so, because you would actually understand it.
TeeTownVideos 1 month ago
@TeeTownVideos Thank you for that explanation. I knew that this song was deeply philosophical, and I knew it had a pretty important meaning so I favorited it, but I couldn't figure out what he was trying to say in this song. (there's no sarcasm here, I really appreciate you taking the time to help explain the lyrics, and helping give people a deeper understanding of the song's meaning.)
Drumwannabe17 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@Drumwannabe17 No problem man :) TBH im still a little confused on a small section of the song, but i do understand the basic meaning of it, if you know what i mean
TeeTownVideos 1 month ago
@TeeTownVideos woah...thats deep o_o
Zach161616161 1 month ago
Not many bands can scream and sing as well as he does.
imakiya1 2 months ago 4
@imakiya1 Shane Blay only does the cleans while Micah Kinard does the screams. It's not the same dude.
gogears567 2 months ago
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AngelicRamen 2 months ago
I love this song <3 I'm going to make a cover, asap.
AbbehRose 2 months ago 3
No one can save you from it, only yourself being strong enough to break the habits that drag you below! I prayed for everyone with the same problems as me in the world the other day, maybe my prayer was for you too! Take care, hope you find yourself and get there! Cause everyone can if we can learn to fly with planes we can overcome an addiction!
ishroom321 2 months ago
@eddiemet12 I'm going through the same thing brother hence my account name... I was shooting up roxies, meth, snorting pills. Just look up to the sky to god and deal with the pain you can get through it cause I'm on the way to being who god meant for me to be! I promise bro your not alone, I know the pain is horrible and makes you anxious and paranoid. But what doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I've had so many i.v.'s in my arms because of all the drugs so many times I shouldn't be here....
ishroom321 2 months ago
This is a concept album about the world after God fights Satan. The character speaking these lines was originally an atheist who begins to seek God for the first time. As she tries to figure all of these things out, she has a lot of questions and has to come to grips with the fact that she cannot understand every aspect.
YahshuaMeshiach 2 months ago
This song just changed my life.
MrChancelucas 2 months ago 3
<3
kierrunia 2 months ago
I don't understand, what's the vocalist talking about???????
MrJazzblue 2 months ago
@MrJazzblue not sure if that's sarcasm or not, so i'll answer anyway. he's talking about the skepticism a lot of people face with believing in god. like why does he allow bad things to happen to people, would he embrace the dead who didn't believe in him before they died, etc.
MoTOwN2014 2 months ago
@MrJazzblue he's talking about God, and expressing his doubts with god and etc, he's talking to God in the song, when he say's "you" he's referring to God.
TTCGangstas 2 months ago
@XxtreehuggerX101x This comment should be deleted on the account it compares Oh Sleeper and Twilight.
Jinxx513 2 months ago in playlist Oh, Sleeper Childeren of Fire 5
A shout out to all my Christian brothers and sisters out there
I would like to ask for you to pray for me for I am struggling with a bad habit
God bless thank you
eddiemet12 3 months ago 190
@eddiemet12 Bro, I was right where you are 11 months ago. I had a raging Heroin addiction and I felt so hopeless. I literally wanted to, and tried to die. I had tried almost everything for 5 years to get clean, but I just kept going back to my old habits. It wasn't until I looked to my Higher Power for help that I actually managed to get sober. If you ever need someone to talk to man, hit me up. And remember, it IS possible to get better, and it's not as hopeless as it mght seem.
InsertWittyNameHere4 2 months ago 4
@eddiemet12 of course man (=.
goobermcnoober 2 months ago
@eddiemet12 u ever need anything get ahold of me good luck to ur battle!!
tamakit123 1 month ago
@eddiemet12 Praying for you bro! im in the same boat!
bassjoey123 1 month ago in playlist Oh, Sleeper 'Children Of Fire'
@eddiemet12
The Lord is calling you out, hun! Whatever it may be, just remember: with God all things are possible! Look to the Father, let go of your burdens, and He will carry them for you. Put all of the energy that usually goes to your "unholy" desires into knowing Christ better and having a stronger relationship, and He will become your desire, what you long for... just know that your energy will not be wasted there, for He is longing for you. May your soul find peace.
~♥~
dinozsayRAWR 3 weeks ago
@eddiemet12
just remember, faith is not one sided, it needs to be two sided, both your side and our side. if you have no doubts you could say to a mountain "Throw yourself in the sea" and it will do so, but even a sliver of doubt, even doubt the size of a quark, the smallest know particle, is enough to keep it from being so
VulgarIniquities 3 weeks ago
@eddiemet12 RESPECT! 125 people already did that! Good luck!
tmnjoosten 3 weeks ago
@eddiemet12 no problem bro
Karrnic 2 weeks ago
@eddiemet12 i got your back bro. may god bless you.
spurs2121 2 weeks ago
@eddiemet12 same with me man
God Bless
your in my prayers :)
thenightshroud77 1 week ago
@eddiemet12 I hope you fail!!
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K1B4HeHe 3 months ago
If someone could like me a explanation of the story explaining each song that would be great, I would really like too understand this album better, it's beautiful
AfterShock951 3 months ago
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James Erwin from Oh Sleeper talks about this album on metalunderground(dot)com/interviews. Check it out for those who are interested, just scroll to the bottom and look for Sep.21,2011. Praise God for this band.
7Repen7ance7 3 months ago
At least that's what I see. This album is telling the stories of everyone. They leave no stone unturned with this one.
rainStormBaby 3 months ago in playlist Oh, Sleeper 'Children Of Fire'
@rainStormBaby They repeat some of this in The Family Ruin, all their music seems to piece together in every album like every song completing each other. It's incredible if you ask me :)
Pandap0wer 3 months ago 3
@Pandap0wer It's totally incredible. These people are amazing musicians. They're the best christian hardcore band I've ever heard. Best hardcore band altogether if you ask me. lol
rainStormBaby 2 months ago
This song is written from the mouth of someone having doubts, or are confused.
rainStormBaby 3 months ago in playlist Oh, Sleeper 'Children Of Fire'
deep.
YCDPKLD 3 months ago
I hope I'm not coming off as a jerk. I'm just stating what Ive heard/know. I'm not trying to start a debate or anything. I love Oh Sleeper and you do too so :D
pmusicmaker 3 months ago
But I've also been to Oh Sleeper shows and they've all acknowledged Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. And they hope to get the message of the Gospel out to people at their shows, that's why they are in this band.
pmusicmaker 3 months ago
How can they ignore/ acknowledge something that doesn't exist? If you believe there's a higher power, then you're no longer atheist; you're agnostic. That's all I'm saying.
pmusicmaker 3 months ago
@pmusicmaker regardless, it is a great song.
br0what 3 months ago
*acknowledging them. my bad
br0what 3 months ago
plus why would an atheist guitarist write a song to God? doesn't that contradict itself?
pmusicmaker 3 months ago
@pmusicmaker idk its what i was told. it sounds like he wants to believe, but cant find the means to.
and are you saying all atheists should ignore God or Alah or Yawei or whatever is out there, just because acknowledging about them is a contradiction, especially when all your bandmates do?
br0what 3 months ago
i struggle. i doubt. this song helps me through it.
dion4christ 3 months ago in playlist Meer video's van solidstaterecords
such a touching song
Godcrazy111 3 months ago
Is this song from the atheistic daughters point of view or the turning away priests point of view...I think the daughter right? Pleading with God to give her a sign?
pmusicmaker 3 months ago
@pmusicmaker its the atheist guitarist of oh sleeper who wrote this song. he's the one singing too.
br0what 3 months ago
@br0what no i mean in the story of the album. I'm pretty sure there are all die hard christians in the band
pmusicmaker 3 months ago
A person that I'm trying to get to know better told me about this song. Now I've got another reason to like, trust and miss that person :)
anny961219 3 months ago
*_______*
LenaaGoesToHollywood 3 months ago in playlist Favoriten von LenaaGoesToHollywood
i just want to point this out are you sure they say sun or do they say son as in the son of God Jesus? when you made the lyrics
plamer1fan 3 months ago
@plamer1fan They mean the son of God When he says if im to find the sun i need something more than song to pull me from this cave of questioning, The way that i see is the Son is Jesus the son of God is our shepard and the holly spirit is the Shepard's cane and God is the father of the Shepard and all of his of his sheep. The Cave of questioning is satans reign on the earth, There for Satan is like an wolf in sheep's clothing in the wilde trying to steer us away from our Shepard and Father.
Xalky88 3 months ago
Love the song but I am not 100% sure what it is about can someone explain
eddiemet12 3 months ago
@eddiemet12
the whole album tells a story and this song is where the person that they are using as perspective is talking about how God doesnt make sense to him because of contradictions in the bible(even tho these contradictions are about the metaphoric symbols like "the Lion and the Lamb" and etc.)
VulgarIniquities 3 months ago
@Duckman118 thank you for putting As I Laying Dying in that group!!! everyone always forgets them...
SoundofTruth78 3 months ago
Oh, Sleeper is now my new obsession.
XxJaggedJessxX 3 months ago 52
@XxJaggedJessxX
Me too! Their songs became my obsession when I heard Son of the Morning...amazing album, amazing band, and Children of Fire is really awesome!
GianvaLB 2 months ago 3
@XxJaggedJessxX Same here! I feel awkward cause like 1/2 of my facebook statuses are Oh, Sleeper lyrics XD
x0scimy0x 1 month ago
i'm in love with the new oh, sleeper
FuneralforaFriend909 4 months ago
@FuneralforaFriend909 not new. this is just oh, sleeper.
RageFueled 3 months ago in playlist Oh, Sleeper 'Children Of Fire'
@RageFueled damn their new stuff any good?
FuneralforaFriend909 3 months ago
@FuneralforaFriend909 lol this is new stuff, i mean that they havent changed. this is just oh sleeper lol
RageFueled 3 months ago
@whatsthatnoisemane Ah I see, thanks man :P sick album eh?
Celithheim 4 months ago
I dont understand this song XD
Celithheim 4 months ago
The one person who disliked this tried to brave the open sea with no sail, and dropped their Children Of Fire album in the water :(
excelery123 4 months ago 2
Every Metalcore band should have a solid acoustic song like this. I also love how Oh, Sleeper doesnt do Breakdown after breakdown. August Burns Red, Killswitch Engage, As i Lay Dying, All That Remains, and Oh, Sleeper are by far the best metalcore bands
Duckman118 4 months ago 2
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tangosmeho1234567890 4 months ago in playlist Oh, Sleeper 'Children Of Fire'
This song falls nothing short of amazing. need I say more?
DHnumber1fan 4 months ago
One person rather listen to reggeaton and inhale cocaine like a wannabe gangster.
FragmentSnake 4 months ago
This song is pure beauty. Brings me to the verge of tears every time.
Ryuujin09 4 months ago
i demand whoever disliked this song to undislike it! its AMAZING!
crazybrunette620 4 months ago 3
The one person that disliked this is soulless.
xXLeGenD32Xx 4 months ago in playlist Oh Sleeper 10
what this song about??
StopTheClip 4 months ago in playlist Oh, Sleeper 'Children Of Fire'
@StopTheClip This song is about a man questioning his faith in God. Knowing there is more than what he has know, but not knowing how to find it.
Ryuujin09 4 months ago
@Ryuujin09 is it the father's point of view or the Daughters?
StopTheClip 4 months ago
@StopTheClip Daughters
blackearth153 4 months ago
@Ryuujin09 its not the man its the daughter.
savagefist7 4 months ago
How can someone dislike this?
xxpromarkxx 4 months ago
the whole album came through my subscription notification thingy... i dont know the band so i picked one song to listen to randomly - i chose this and its by far the best on the album..
DimebagDisciple 4 months ago
Does anyone know the tabs for this song, or know where I can find them? I figured out the first bit, with the fingerpicking. But everything after that I'm pretty clueless on, haha :P
AbbehRose 4 months ago
@AbbehRose someone who got the pre-order tab book has probably put it up on a site. If you can't find a good one I'll try and put it up when I get mine.
blackearth153 4 months ago
@blackearth153 Oh wow, there was a tab book if you pre-ordered it?? I really regret not doing that now ): And I have looked for the tabs online already, but I literally can't find anything.
AbbehRose 4 months ago
@AbbehRose really that's unusual. So many people must be practicing the songs so they haven't had time to put it up yet, or their just selfish. Plus it takes a while to write out tabs.
blackearth153 4 months ago
Song is amazing, talks about faith and doubt, to understand this song I recommend reading the books of luke and john in the bible, some of the lyrics are those exact parables.
emerychandler 4 months ago
The perfect "means to believe" is the Bible + History + Quantum Physics = Obvious God exists. I love Oh Sleeper in every way. Amazing band and amazing guys. I attribute the brilliance of their new album to God...and "Chet" of course...
ghostgate82 4 months ago
@ghostgate82 I really don't know if you know about anything about quatum phasics but it does totally not prove gods existence. But where I must agree with you is that this band is awesome even if i can't indentify with their belives. But the sound is still really powerfull.
BracDav 4 months ago
@BracDav If I didn't know anything about quantum physics, I wouldn't have brought it up. When two different people look at the same thing but have two diametrically opposed pre-conceived understandings, that one piece of evidence may seem "different" depending on the belief of the person. I say QP proves God's existence because I know the MARKERS to look for while studying QP because of my theological and science background. You obviously don't have a theological background.
ghostgate82 4 months ago 2
@ghostgate82 Well yes is is like that. But you need to see that science with theological background has absolute now kind of scientific value, no offense to you but science isn't about personal feelings. It is and should be only about rational fact.
The same is for people who wanna disprove god with science. This is not possible because you can only do one thing at a time either thelogy or science. So I would say both side need to know what they can and can't do. It's just that simple...
BracDav 4 months ago
@BracDav lol I'm afraid its not "just that simple." There is a scientific explanation for everything. There most certainly IS a God, your God. Your statement is quite bold, and utterly obtuse friend. ghostgate is right on... couldn't have said it better myself. People who desire to be associated with the scientific community but lack the education and frontal lobe to do so often make the same bold statement, because they are afraid of what cannot yet be explained.
wesleyryanjohnson 4 months ago
@wesleyryanjohnson It occurs to me that you know nothing about science and scientists. Why we should be afraid of those things we are not yet able to explain? It is quite much our job to find things that we do not understand now and try to find explanations. And therefore god is as unimportant as he is irelevant for science because the hypothesis of god works only as long as he can no be explained scietificly by definition.
BracDav 3 months ago
@BracDav Some things that can't be proven wrong are said to be true, such as the theory of relativity, Also love, and yes, God too.
hobojoe102 3 months ago
@hobojoe102 Well there you are just wrong. There are expriments which clearly could prove the theory of relativity. And love will be or is at least partly understood neuro biology. And yes the only point where you are right is that god is not to prove with the methods of science. Because of that a clearly stated before that god is completly irrelevant for science. What doesn't mean god couldn't exist. But by terms of probabillity god is quite improbable in the eyes of true science and scientists
BracDav 3 months ago
@BracDav To play the devils advocate here...from a Biblical standpoint that is... Why would you say God is irrelevant to science when He would be in fact the maker of what we know as science? Wouldnt that make Him completely relevant? How can science answer how the earth/universe/humans were made with logical probabilities? Faith in this case would be more important then what we would consider "facts" and faith is what being a Christian is all about.
Estel2931 3 months ago in playlist Oh, Sleeper 'Children Of Fire' 2
@Estel2931 I see what you want to do. No, I will not go on a debate on evolution or creationism (or intelligent design or however you call the same thing over and over again). It is not because I would have not enough arguments. But sorry in this question there is no real discussing in it. Because it would create the misbelieve that creationism and such things are even worth to dispute by real scientists. But i is just not a topic for science but for theology like a said before.
BracDav 3 months ago
@BracDav
God and Science actually work hand in hand, not against each other
VulgarIniquities 3 months ago 5
@VulgarIniquities So there is the point where we always will have another opinion... And that what is the most important part to get. All we can have as human are opinions. Such a thing as absolute truth a human never will have. Thereby also important is to see that a true scientist always will say that hes in a process to approximate the truth, while relegion state to have the absolute truth and this is nothing but arrogant.
BracDav 3 months ago
@VulgarIniquities I do not refuse that probably some kind of god would not work with science. But the christian god (along with Allah and Yahweh) do really not work with science. Well this is probably to harsh also. Because those gods in it self probably do not but with a lot of the tales in the specific holy books do and will never work hand in hand with science.
BracDav 3 months ago
@BracDav
think of it this way:
if God created the universe, He already proved He can go against what science says is impossible. a God is the only way things in the bible can be possible and science can prove that the universe has to have a God.
btw, Yahweh and Allah is the Christian/Judaic God. Yahweh is the Hebrew name and Allah is the Arabic name
VulgarIniquities 3 months ago
@BracDav Fun fact: Science is a branch of Philosophy.
shesatwitcher 3 months ago in playlist Oh, Sleeper 'Children Of Fire'
@shesatwitcher I know this. But i don't really see what this statement brings new to this discussion. I would be glad if you would explain further what you meant to say with it.
BracDav 3 months ago
@VulgarIniquities What god are you worshiping? Cant be any that actually exist, that's for sure.
SPitFyRe666 3 months ago
@SPitFyRe666
He has many names...pick one; Yahweh, Allah, Jehova, I AM, etc.
VulgarIniquities 3 months ago
@VulgarIniquities They all sound like bullshit to me.
SPitFyRe666 3 months ago
@SPitFyRe666
well through scientific research i found that there has to be a being working outside the governing laws of the universe, aka, a god of some sort. ive researched the bible, finding it to be historically correct. such things as the "Red Sea Crossing" have had much supporting evidence found in the last hundred years
VulgarIniquities 3 months ago
@VulgarIniquities You have to be kidding. There is no way a human being can be this ignorant... You just went full retard.
SPitFyRe666 3 months ago
@SPitFyRe666 This band is christian & they project that in their songs, if you have a problem with that, I have an amazingly simple solution DON'T LISTEN. There problem solved and it's a win-win, you don't have a problem with the message their spreading and we don't have to deal with you.
fromlightcomesshadow 3 months ago
@fromlightcomesshadow u mad.
SPitFyRe666 3 months ago
@SPitFyRe666 Not really. Because I know that you live to make people mad over the internet, which just screams out coward, who can't do confrontations face to face. Sincerely someone with a bachelors degree in psychology.
fromlightcomesshadow 3 months ago
@fromlightcomesshadow I love that you just throw it out there that you "have" a Bachelors in Psychology. We all know that's a load of shit. Try getting a real degree.
SPitFyRe666 3 months ago
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TommyNitro 3 months ago
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@BracDav Actually, the emotion we call love is understood by neurobiology. This is truly affection, not love. True love is love by choice, to include loving those you have no feelings of affection for, or even feelings of hatred.
TommyNitro 3 months ago
awesome
Imminent92 5 months ago
Beautiful.
Maxman0023 5 months ago
I love this. No questions asked. They're amazing.
Ecwjr007 5 months ago 40
I'm from Brazil, amazing music.
Musicolotra 5 months ago
@Musicolotra I'm from America. Yes it is. you should check out their two previous albums.
BURkaburNER 4 months ago
Breath taking. Speechless. mind blowing. need i say more?
IFrontIine 5 months ago
this song is just amazing :O
abrguitar93 5 months ago 23