20 Jo Suburi

[Zararobert]

this sucks deeply!



[MokurenDojo]

I thought this was a great demo of a decent exercise - a good link between the staccato practice of suburi and the more flowing kata. it was in no way lethargic - simply presented clearly. thank you and keep up the great work!

[Torinmr]

There are many different ways to practice Aikijo (and Aikido in general). The person in the video is obviously not focusing on martial efficacy; he's focusing on making his movements as smooth and fluid as possible. Watching this video, I was awestruck by how amazingly beautiful he made the exercise look. Others may perform the Suburi in a way that would be much more effective in a fight; he probably could if he wanted to. My point is, don't judge something on what it's not trying to be.

[rickashaybingbing]

@Torinmr I do agree with you , i thought he was great and even want to try my movement like his.

one can always put the power down.

[rickashaybingbing]

@Torinmr I do agree with you , i thought he was great and even want to try my movement like his.

one can always put the power down. Also it does show he knows his movements very well.

[jmesa69x]

the movements do not feel substantial at all. even if the point was to demonstrate flowing movement, there is no 'spirit' here

[trafficjuzz]

@jmesa69x

how can one know where there is or isnt spirit..are you in the soul of this man..how do you now what he feels...what this excersise means to him..?

[kokorosan61]

I see that this "demonstration" is not credible, cause tsuki are not tsuki, asogaeshi are not asogaeshi, all movements are too smooth without conviction. Is it an martial art ? I don't think ! pitiful ! :-(

[kokorosan61]

I see that this "demonstration" is not credible, cause tsuki are not tsuki, asogaeshi are not asogaeshi, all movements are too smooth without conviction. Is it an martial art ? I don't think so ! pitiful !!!!! :-(

[fudo9]

A very interesting jo suburi that I would like to study, although, the practitioner has a serious generic weakness.

At the end of every backward motion he has no forward attitude and could be pushed backwards with the slightest touch to his upper body.

It feels quite disturbing to watch.

He looks quite a high graded practitioner so to late to change I would imagine.

[kaarutomuson]

Where did this version of the jo suburi come from?

[cradlecoffer]

I would like everyone to understand that there is more than one way to do Aikido. I see nothing wrong with this video.

[theolifant]

"more then one way" is not the same "everything is OK".

More then flowing, this performance is lethargic

[cradlecoffer]

Don't misunderstand me. I don't look at this video as an instructional. I believe my jo work to be more sound. However, this is just a video. I don't care how imperfect he is. He might have just started learning the jo two weeks ago. I am simply saying that I have no gripe with this man just as I have no gripe with the videos of "real aikido" that are constantly attacked by (I'm assuming) superior Aikidokai.

[robkidwell]

The only problem with using YouTube as a way of posting a training video is that people will attempt to judge it for something other than what it is. We did not post this to show off. Flowing, not flowing, lethargic...I guess if that makes you feel superior then fine, but I would question the way you spend your time and whether ANY of the principles of compassion that O Sensei emphasized have any meaning to you.

[theolifant]

Question away if this is the way you want to spend your time.

As to the video, it is posted on one of the most popular websites in the world with comments enabled. What do you expect? Unquestioning adoration?

[robkidwell]

Thank-you for your comment.  Frankly, when I posted this to YouTube, I really did not pay much attention to the comments enabled vs not. I hope that if your travels should ever bring you to Park City, UT you will join us and train.

[theolifant]

Thank you for the invitation.

[Andrewtagniss]

Rubbish. This is just what give Aikido a bad name.

[aikidoamsterdam]

The 20 jo suburi is a practise of the tsuki's, strike, sweeps and blocks that are within the kata's (static and flowing).

Al so there is a build up in the 20 jo suburi: tsuki section, striking section, one handed section, rotating section and flowing rotating section.

So I don't recommend to practice the 20 jo suburi flowing.

[SnoSrfSk8]

I could not agree more - I'd also like add that there is a lot of "not so good" videos of this out there - including this one (sorry).

Look to the ones with for ex Saito Sensei for referense or I can highly recomend Petteri Silenius - Ken & Jo DVD - a really really good tutorial.

[moonybg]

The most obvious thing is he doesn't hold the jo at the end of it, where it's necessary (ex. 0:22).There are other mistakes too.I agree it's not good.

[navalairstation]

youre crazy then what is the point of studying aikido? i agree on the defintion you mentioned.

[Aikidopoi]

Very nice :) I notice a lot of people seem to be interested in making the 20 suburi 'flow' as of late. Haha, this one looks like a very followable version for everyone. Thank you again!