Do you know if there is a way of separating the gas? I know you can build one with the cathodes and anodes on opposite ends and partition the system but that method is less efficient as I have concluded from tests that 6mm separation with alternating cathodes and anodes will give optimum performance. ideally I would like to extract and vent the oxygen to leave pure hydrogen.
Wow everybody's got an opinion on the easy stuff where the fuck are you all when I ask a question that requires an answer which involves using those little grey cells? jeez I know they've flouridated the water to dumb ppl down but I had no idea things had gotten this Bad.
i don't know an easy way to separate the gases.-as far as i know-hho is great mix (ratio of oxygen & hydrogen)for combustion so i have been focusing on using the gas output as is.
sorry i couldn't help more, but thanks for the question.
It's ok I think I've found a solution apparently theres a porous glass membrane that uses silver and palladium to filter out the oxygen. The gas is too unstable with oxygen still in it to be used as a substitute for natural gas that is to say that with the oxygen in the pipes if it were to ignite and you had a store for the gas it could explode. But without the oxygen the ignition would not be able to travel through the pipes and would not explode. Thanks for your reply.
Thanks for question yungthugluvlife-at the time-bubbler was lower than tank but i hear it's better to have bubbler level or above cell-tube should be above cell water level-thanks for the interest
Thanks for the question gissome1234.-#1-build a safer cell with a bubbler & connect output to your intake & venturi vacuum on your car engine(either use 2 cells-(prefered method)1 for venturi vacuum & anouther for intake vacuum or use check vavles for single cell install-you might have to modify your car to run leaner)-we are still testing & haven't gotten milage data yet.
Thanks for question windowwisher-#1-The coke bottle is a safety device called a bubbler-it's filled with water & the bubbles u see are the hho gas.#2-ussaly the output of the cell is connected to the vacuum lines of your car so the hho gas gets sucked into the engine.
#3 Most HHO cells run on dc-i have heard of dc with an ac component on top of the dc(gotta try this sometime)-hope this helps
Yes, you would be wrong in that statement. The hydrogen and oxygen produced from the units are piped together into the intake in most fuel economy booster systems. Hydrogen or oxygen injected alone results in much less energy production. Burn them both together and you get one heck of a bang. Think 20oz bottle of HHO gas ignited by stick lighter. Fun stuff. But be careful in your use and experimentation. There are safety concerns, but no more then working with a gasoline engine.
Why does everyone with a makeshift jar and electrodes that rust after 4 hours of use claim they are doing Stanley Meyer work? Stanley Meyer's work is completely on another level. He used stainless steel electrodes, High voltage pulsed DC and many circuits that sync together a resonance such as the never talked about Phase Lock Loop Stan used. Not to knock what your doing (Conventional Electrolysis). Just don't dog Stan's reputation like that with all do respect. Good luck and be careful.
Thanks for the comment richcollins513-i agree with you-this is electrolysis-not Meyer's work(i cover that in my description)this was an early effort-i was just starting on HHO then-i am working Meyer's work now.
I had not heard about the phase lock loop appilcation & that info should help-Thanks for your interest
you are putting hydrogen H and oxygen O2 gas into the engine but you are not putting HHO
oxygen gas is diatomic so by even saying HHO the only thing your getting right is that when you run electricity through water you will produce 2 parts hydrogen to one part oxygen.... but the oxygen will be diatomic. go back to 8th grade.
Yea, I was wondering about that to. isn't it so that oxygen comes out at the positive electrode and hydrogen at the negative? if it is they would be easy to separate... I don't know wader this is the key to energy independence... creating hydrogen still takes up large amounts of energy, which is made by cole, oil, or worse nuclear powered plants. Also hydrogen is incredibly explosive so I ask myself if this is interesting in a car, our largest consumer.
Is is not ironic that the petroleum industry uses a vast quantity of hydrogen to produce gasoline. We have all been mislead and misinformed for decades.The sooner we switch to hydrogen for fuel the better.Nuclear, Coal,and OIL their days are numbered."New " stuff is on the way.I just pray it's not too late.
agreed, I'm very very pro clean fuel and I believe that we are being misled. We get along ;-) But, that still leaves the question: how do we supply the world with vast quantities of hydrogen without using nuclear, Coal or oil plants? (but hey it probably is possible if we boost the efficiently and reduce price of some green power sources) btw nuclear fusion looks interesting for the futer. As you I pray for all our sake that we find something quick, cause time is running out.
Does the distance between electrodes affect producition and effeciency? I was considering building a cell with two tubes connected at the center to seperate the gases, but I wasn't sure if the distance between the electrodes mattered...
thanks for question andypandy687-i found that the further away the electrodes are-the hotter the cell runs so i keep electrodes as close as i dare.-i am planning to try high voltage & will have to build a cell with large electrode gaps since "spark gap" will be a concern at killovolt levels
Meyer was way too secretive, camster6 has sort of the same set up I have, using a voltage multypler like Daniel Dingle. I am using tubes and he is using a spark gap. He got the ramping effect so he is well on the way. I am out of project funds so I have to wait some before I can build the new WFC and electronics. I will have a water flow pump and the voltage too the FETS will be veriable from 0-120v. God Speed!
This is not Stanley Meyer's type of voltage dissociation of water, it's Faraday's standard electrolysis of water. Please note the difference between the two, whey you look them up.
Yes -you are correct,this is Faraday's at this point in my work.
I have built a "pulse dc " Stanley Meyer based unit & will attempt (soon) to find the resonance (or some kinda sweet spot) of our fuel cells.that will hopefully drop the current somewhat while keeping the HHO gas output unchanged.
Anyway... good production of gas.
mptrax 7 months ago
YEAH it is COMPLETTE :DDD LOL;
mptrax 7 months ago
Do you know if there is a way of separating the gas? I know you can build one with the cathodes and anodes on opposite ends and partition the system but that method is less efficient as I have concluded from tests that 6mm separation with alternating cathodes and anodes will give optimum performance. ideally I would like to extract and vent the oxygen to leave pure hydrogen.
raybinns 2 years ago
Anybody?
raybinns 2 years ago
Wow everybody's got an opinion on the easy stuff where the fuck are you all when I ask a question that requires an answer which involves using those little grey cells? jeez I know they've flouridated the water to dumb ppl down but I had no idea things had gotten this Bad.
raybinns 2 years ago
Hi Raybinns-sorry i took so long to reply.
i don't know an easy way to separate the gases.-as far as i know-hho is great mix (ratio of oxygen & hydrogen)for combustion so i have been focusing on using the gas output as is.
sorry i couldn't help more, but thanks for the question.
RonL2524 2 years ago
It's ok I think I've found a solution apparently theres a porous glass membrane that uses silver and palladium to filter out the oxygen. The gas is too unstable with oxygen still in it to be used as a substitute for natural gas that is to say that with the oxygen in the pipes if it were to ignite and you had a store for the gas it could explode. But without the oxygen the ignition would not be able to travel through the pipes and would not explode. Thanks for your reply.
raybinns 2 years ago
I'm sorry man but I got alot more gas just w/ a piece of 3" pvc pipe w/ 2 bolts and a few washers and nuts
stmarysks 2 years ago
is the tube going from the bubbler to the main tank above or below water in the main tank??
yungthugluvlife 3 years ago
Thanks for question yungthugluvlife-at the time-bubbler was lower than tank but i hear it's better to have bubbler level or above cell-tube should be above cell water level-thanks for the interest
RonL2524 2 years ago
i also have couple of questions...
1. how would i put this in my car so i can get better gas mileage?
2. are the bubbles in the bubbler hydrogen bubbles?
gissome1234 3 years ago
Thanks for the question gissome1234.-#1-build a safer cell with a bubbler & connect output to your intake & venturi vacuum on your car engine(either use 2 cells-(prefered method)1 for venturi vacuum & anouther for intake vacuum or use check vavles for single cell install-you might have to modify your car to run leaner)-we are still testing & haven't gotten milage data yet.
RonL2524 3 years ago
3 Questions.
#1 Is all of that in that coke bottle hydrogen?
#2 Can you pour that hydrogen in the bottle straight in your gas tank?
#Is the current AC or DC?
windowwisher 3 years ago
Thanks for question windowwisher-#1-The coke bottle is a safety device called a bubbler-it's filled with water & the bubbles u see are the hho gas.#2-ussaly the output of the cell is connected to the vacuum lines of your car so the hho gas gets sucked into the engine.
#3 Most HHO cells run on dc-i have heard of dc with an ac component on top of the dc(gotta try this sometime)-hope this helps
RonL2524 3 years ago
so when will this one blow up
argosy2006 3 years ago
Thanks for question argosy2006. this is the cell that blew up-i had some design flaws in this early attempt.
RonL2524 3 years ago
Most of these devices do not seperate the hydrogen from the oxygen..I understand the hydrogen only is what you use in an engine.
Am I wrong??
dg7562570 3 years ago
Yes, you would be wrong in that statement. The hydrogen and oxygen produced from the units are piped together into the intake in most fuel economy booster systems. Hydrogen or oxygen injected alone results in much less energy production. Burn them both together and you get one heck of a bang. Think 20oz bottle of HHO gas ignited by stick lighter. Fun stuff. But be careful in your use and experimentation. There are safety concerns, but no more then working with a gasoline engine.
thuenb 3 years ago
k im running 5 amps 12 volts and using 2 stainless steel forks and my production way better keep trying try baking soda
5horsepower 3 years ago
Why does everyone with a makeshift jar and electrodes that rust after 4 hours of use claim they are doing Stanley Meyer work? Stanley Meyer's work is completely on another level. He used stainless steel electrodes, High voltage pulsed DC and many circuits that sync together a resonance such as the never talked about Phase Lock Loop Stan used. Not to knock what your doing (Conventional Electrolysis). Just don't dog Stan's reputation like that with all do respect. Good luck and be careful.
richcollins513 3 years ago
Thanks for the comment richcollins513-i agree with you-this is electrolysis-not Meyer's work(i cover that in my description)this was an early effort-i was just starting on HHO then-i am working Meyer's work now.
I had not heard about the phase lock loop appilcation & that info should help-Thanks for your interest
RonL2524 3 years ago
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HHO gas is water vapor HHO is the same as H2O
you are putting hydrogen H and oxygen O2 gas into the engine but you are not putting HHO
oxygen gas is diatomic so by even saying HHO the only thing your getting right is that when you run electricity through water you will produce 2 parts hydrogen to one part oxygen.... but the oxygen will be diatomic. go back to 8th grade.
johnnyboy922 3 years ago
you putting low water like 3/4 more better
gypsy2523 3 years ago
Stan Meyer was a fraud.
gregscottmaher 3 years ago
thanks for reponding gregscottmaher-i have gotten conflicting info on that issue,i still feel it's worth checking into-thanks for interest
RonL2524 3 years ago
If you can find a good way to seperate the hydrogen and the oxygen that would be cool.
Thanks for sharing , this is the key to energy independence!
eddiefreddie39 3 years ago
Yea, I was wondering about that to. isn't it so that oxygen comes out at the positive electrode and hydrogen at the negative? if it is they would be easy to separate... I don't know wader this is the key to energy independence... creating hydrogen still takes up large amounts of energy, which is made by cole, oil, or worse nuclear powered plants. Also hydrogen is incredibly explosive so I ask myself if this is interesting in a car, our largest consumer.
Timmenerst 3 years ago
Is is not ironic that the petroleum industry uses a vast quantity of hydrogen to produce gasoline. We have all been mislead and misinformed for decades.The sooner we switch to hydrogen for fuel the better.Nuclear, Coal,and OIL their days are numbered."New " stuff is on the way.I just pray it's not too late.
eddiefreddie39 3 years ago
agreed, I'm very very pro clean fuel and I believe that we are being misled. We get along ;-) But, that still leaves the question: how do we supply the world with vast quantities of hydrogen without using nuclear, Coal or oil plants? (but hey it probably is possible if we boost the efficiently and reduce price of some green power sources) btw nuclear fusion looks interesting for the futer. As you I pray for all our sake that we find something quick, cause time is running out.
Timmenerst 3 years ago
Does the distance between electrodes affect producition and effeciency? I was considering building a cell with two tubes connected at the center to seperate the gases, but I wasn't sure if the distance between the electrodes mattered...
andypandy687 3 years ago
thanks for question andypandy687-i found that the further away the electrodes are-the hotter the cell runs so i keep electrodes as close as i dare.-i am planning to try high voltage & will have to build a cell with large electrode gaps since "spark gap" will be a concern at killovolt levels
RonL2524 3 years ago
Nice work. If you can keep the volts/watts low the wires should stay cool?
eddiefreddie39 3 years ago
Meyer was way too secretive, camster6 has sort of the same set up I have, using a voltage multypler like Daniel Dingle. I am using tubes and he is using a spark gap. He got the ramping effect so he is well on the way. I am out of project funds so I have to wait some before I can build the new WFC and electronics. I will have a water flow pump and the voltage too the FETS will be veriable from 0-120v. God Speed!
h2opower 4 years ago
This is not Stanley Meyer's type of voltage dissociation of water, it's Faraday's standard electrolysis of water. Please note the difference between the two, whey you look them up.
h2opower 4 years ago
Yes -you are correct,this is Faraday's at this point in my work.
I have built a "pulse dc " Stanley Meyer based unit & will attempt (soon) to find the resonance (or some kinda sweet spot) of our fuel cells.that will hopefully drop the current somewhat while keeping the HHO gas output unchanged.
RonL2524 4 years ago