NA ZHTE PANTA !! NA ZHSEI O PONTOS !! OLOI EMEIS OI PROSFYGES AS EIMASTE ENOMENOI , NA MHN XASOUME POTE TIS PARADOSEIS MAS , THN TAYTOTHTA MAS , TA PAIDIA MAS !! OLH MAS THN AGAPH APO TOUS ARMENIOUS THS ELLADOS STA ADERFIA MAS!!!
pontian dreaming...greek and pontian were under turkish control for many years? how u know ur grand grand dad werent turk, arabic, bulgarian etc?..there were many nation in ottoman empire..but selanik and athina ll be our cities at soon...
turkish dance and culture like his politic: COMING QUICKLY, KILLING QUICKLY , STEALING QUICKLY. Before turks in Anatolia were living GREEKS and ARMINIANS, in his MOTHERLAND during mileniums since the first days of the world, and then (from faaaaaar- faaaaaar away) turks came from his motherland and killing, then stealing the cuture of GREEKS and ARMINIANS now they have "culture and country". SHAME ON YOU. turkey must recognise the GENOCIDE of GREEKS and ARMINIANS. SHAME ON YOU !!!
@hepdamar24 Ben senin bir tane yunan bile tanidigi sanmiyorum . ve Turku yunani arabi ermenisi yok bu topraklar herkesin , herkes senden once vardi senden sonrada varolacak , mutlu olmaya , bak irk din insan ayirana kadar...
like your video girls..wonderfull...I wish .i will go to selanik one day and where my grandparents use to live.but i am not lucky like you..girls.. no informations just we know they use to live selanik.
@Taniola Yes, nice country with nice people, just pitty there are still people that hate each-other without a real reason.. I hate hate :) Hope one day Greece n Turkey will act like real neighbours. xxx
@Kaptanspark the only reason to hate each other, is politics.Politics created the genocides, the wars...the hatred....politicians are the ones to hate....for everything...
ich komme aus Macka ich lade alle Leute nach macka ein, wir freuen auf euch alle. ihr seit wie mir seht auch aus wie mir ich habe fiele Touristen in macka Gessen und mit innen gesprochen sie haben ihre wurzel in macka sie sind laz wie mir mein Oba hatte als Kind Rumische freunde sie haben zusamen gespielt wir sind freund mit der gleiche Kultur und musik Es lebe kemence es lebe Trabzonspor
PAST IS PAST...NOW ISTANBUL AND TRABZON ARE TURK'S... AND SELANIK AND ETC IS GREEK'S... JUST BE FRIEND..DONT MAKE A PLAN HOW TO TAKE ISTANBUL AND TRABZON BACK :))) BECAUSE NEVER !! :)
@kuruvaziyer read this comment of your. If you want to broaden your horizon... learn the golden mean... there you will find we beat the same frequency. you will find the whole region of this area was destabalised for greed. Ie the establishment which attaturk was apart of - he had the ancient knowledge at hand. Its a shame because the whole area was united for a long time through the ages through different empires. Now we are scattered across the earth wondering why? retreat into yourself truth
hi im from trabzon city and i live in germany we have so many old bildings from the greecks in ouer litle city its great to see people from greece here they visite this town every year,cultural understanding ;)
В 21 веке человечество сделает огромный рывок во всех областях науки:приземлится на Марсе,появятся альтернативные источники энергии для того чтобы спасти планету уйдут все варварские методы уйдут прочь(АЭС,автомобили ДВС...)вместе с этим и исчезнут варварские народы и государства которым является Турция,Стамбул станет Константенополем,Турция будет называтся Византией а Армения опять возродится в Великую Армению.И эти два народа будут восстанавливать памятники архитектуры которые веками ламали.
@Taniola уважаеми история показывает что все гасударство которые построены на крави других народов долго немогут просушествовать какими бы ани небыли мощными пример государство чингиз хана залатое орда. римская иперия .велико британи тоже окупировал пол мира свое время .советский союз тоже рухнул .а что турция построена на крови и на костях христян уже пришло его очеред
@Taniola мои предсказание начали сбываться воение действо в арабском мире землетрясение и цунами взрыв АЭС в Японии но то что будет с Турцией это боюсь даже говорить ..............
@TurkishPartizan я тебя приветствую друг мой чуваком тебя називать не стану вдруг обидешся огромное спасибо что написал ответ на мои коментарии . братишка ти ошибаешя я прошёл через эту войну в карабахе и понел что 21 веке войной вопросы не решиш есть боле гуманые методы решения .потвоему вопрос тебе как их решать?
U nas net kakıh problem ne s Armyan ı ne s ostalnımı narodamı... Mı ı vaynu ne hotım ne skem... Hotım mıra, no tı kak ostlanıe Armyanı provakatsırete, govorıte bolshıe slova... IU nas net zemlıı shtobo prosta podarıt drugım a eslı eta vas ne ustraıvaet shto Ararat seychas nahodıtsa v Turtsıı prıdetsa voevat s namı...
@TurkishPartizan советски союз тоже говорил что хотим мира и вето время воевал в афганистане чехословакии ........... ленин и ваш ата турк были саратниками и оба создали 2 тотолитарных государство в ссср казнили растреевали всех кто против камунистов а в турци просто виризали тех кто не турок и не мусулманин тоест уничтожали христян этнических народов пантиских греков армян асирийцев ветом им хорошо помогали курды а когда всех вирезали тепер уничтожают курдов . ссср рухнул чя тепер очередь ?
@TurkishPartizan турецкая провительство самое карумпированое в европе увас не соблюдаются права простих турков я уже не говорю о других народов особено христян увас суды полиция всё подкупно ти умный человек зря защишаеш своё повительство youtube ест ролик про вашего ата турка напиши на поисковике '''турецкий идол мустафа ататурк'' и ти узнаеш всю правду про этого изверга
Ya pro nevo znayu mnogo chevo. Ya svoe pravıtelsvo ne zashıshayu, ya hochu naytı pravdu ı govorıt ıstınu. Eto tı snachala doljen posmotrıt chevo zashıshaesh.. Vot mı smotrım vıdeo zdes, grekı v Trabzone tansuyut, poyut. Ya raduyus shto ludı mırno jvut v etoy strane. 200.000 armyan ne legalno rabotaet v Turtsıı v dannıy moment. Ya gorjus etım. Odın vopros.... Mojet odın Turak hot skazat v Erıvane shto on Turak ı ız Turtsıı? Golovu otorvut na meste.
@TurkishPartizan я напалавину понтийский грек на половину армян мои предки жили трабизоне и городе муше 1915 году был геноцид армян 1919 году геноцид понтейских греков это отрецать не возможно потомушто есть очень много фактов если турецкая провительство официально примет геноцид греков и армян я уверень что ми все будем жить в дружбе и согласии например гармания прзнал факт геноцида над евреями и уних всё нормално нет претензии желаю тебя удачи пыло приятно стобой обшатся
Vam rekomenduyu chıtat knıgu Pushkına, kotoruyu on pısal kogda on bıl v Erzurume... On tam chetko ı yasno obısbıt kak armaynı v Russkoy armıı ubılı Turak. Vı uvıdıte s chego nachılıs problemı. Vam toje udachı. Ya tolko hochu govorıt ıstını a ne zashıshat kovo to.
@TurkishPartizan приветствую тебе книгу обезательно прочту пушкина отвечу на твой вопрос турок по национальности если приедет в ереван мне кажется его не тронут и вопше зачем его трогать ну по моему его некто не тронет я за армян немогу сказать я не живу в армение скинхедов там нет они все в москве да я тоже не хочу войну надо решать дипломатично
@TurkishPartizan ти говориш правильно мои предки жили 3000 лет ветих городах драбизоне муше ви их истребили уничтожали вигнали тут ненадо никакой дипломати вернём свои земли у турков как вернули карабах армяны сылные войны про грек не могу тожэ самое сказать потомучто досихпор не вернули северный кипр просто знай одно армяни и греки здес были и будут всегда варворы которые нас захватовали долго здес не задержывались а их было много .....................
Турки-сельджуки в 11 веке когда прибыли из Казахстано-Монгольских степей они не выглядели как выглядят сегодня потому-что относились к монголоидной расе то есть ускоглазые,маленькие,кривоногие,жёлтокожие.В результате эти монголоиды смешивались с местным населением(Греками,Армянами,Асирийцами) и в результате получилась непонятная раса хоть они называют себя турками если разобраца на геннетическом уровне это потомки или армян или греков или асирийцев.У них идеалогия осталась только турецкая.
Alright...I've devised a plan...I will gather every Pontic/Anatolian Greek I know, every Assyrian, every Laz Georgian, every Jew with Ottoman heritage and every Armenian from Australia and were coming to Trabzon, Van and Samsun to live and reclaim our past. Lets see how many people will accept us with kisses and hugs, lets see how long we last there...
there is no need, my friend, to leave our homes and go live there...I suppose we all have a home somewhere, friends, lifes...it's too late to return and live in Anatolia...
but!!!! we can visit our FATHERLAND, see,smell, taste, touch, speak, LOVE!
I'm from Macka but I live in the USA now. When I see you Pontian people in my city, I feel really happy. Our accents are even like yours. Pontian people look like us. Also, my grandmother sometimes uses Greek words. Our cultures are really similar. I wish your fathers didn't leave Trabzon. Visit Trabzon always and say to other Greek people that we are friends.
I appriciate you, my friend, you're really a peacfull and open minded person!!
Trabzon has nothing to lose from our visits...we come with sooo emotion and love for the place and the people!!! we respect you all, and we thank you for your hospitality especially your goverment who gave the permission to celebrate our feast in Panagia Sumela this summer. All the Pontians, we were soooo excited!!!
I'm sure, next summer more and more visitors will travel in Trabzon!!
Things gain value when we share them. So, this celebrating is your right.
I hope that we will see you every year more and more in Sümela.
However, I don't like my government for different reasons :)
My grandmother wanted to go to Sümela when you were celebrating, but authorities didn't allow her. She always wonders you. Also I saw on your video, Hamsiköy is your father's village. It is also my grandmother's village.
@Taniola everything changed with Christ, and will change again soon. my friend, God saw how lambs were expelled from their homeland and return is His decision. the path is rough and weight is heavy now, but reward is where Our Heavenly Father is. this land is where All Saints walked and prayed, that is why is so beautiful.that is why it smells Holy Fragrance everywhere in Anatolia. and also that's why devil hates much of this beauty.Kri Isu Xriste Eleison Me, Lord Jesus Christ Have Mercy On Me.
I'm from Macka but I live in the USA now. When I see you Pontian people in my city, I feel really happy. Our accents are even like yours. Pontian people look like us. Also, my grandmother sometimes uses Greek words. Our cultures are really similar. I wish your fathers didn't leave Trabzon. Visit Trabzon always and say to other Greek people that we are friends.
@MrSpsm yes brother they are not killed they moved to greece and same numbers of turks moved to turkey from greece! thats what the 2 goverments did agree together right! dont tell me i kill them mate! cause other ways i am gonna have to tell you that you killed all turks in greece and still now your goverment dont wanna eccept the turkish population there right! they are millions in greece mate thats why! but we never did that so dont worry mate leave the history to politicians! peace .
@TANIOLA BABES SOMEONE CALLED NICK NAMED theseis his really start being racist here and i think his gonna be more funnier! can you please sort him out just chuck him out of here we dont need racist people here! thanks best wishes to everyone bye
@theseis okay if thats the case so small nation like greece they have been mixed by ottomans romans italian macedonians and bulgarians and russians right? or now you gonna still deny it mate :) listen stop being ediot you have to know that uygurs and ozbeks are a different tripes of asia okay what are you going about! you have to know first of all the real turks are turkmenistan turks of turkey azerbaijan and tataristan and balkan turks stop talking how do we look like and how do you look.
@theseis yes mate if youare talking about the mix staff do you think all greeks are 100 % greek ? no mate when it comes to talk about we turks 100 % real turks you want to deny it and when it comes to your selfs you are not in the same situation right? that dosent work that way you only want to see things the way you wanna see so open your eyes little bit more please i had enogh really! we have not mixed with greeks here why dont you wanna beleive in that ? respect to all bye
life is life my friends and its very short! well so try to enjoy every moment of its BEAUTIES and listen to the BEAUTIFUL GIRL TANIOLA HARD WORKER ON PEACE MAKING MY SWEET KOMSU KEEP GOING I AM WITH YOU ALL THE WAY AND I AM SURE ALL TURKEY AND WARM TRABZON PEOPLE SUPPORTS YOU TOO DARLING WELL DONE KISSES AND HUGS TAKE CARE AND GOOD LUCK XXX
I AM 33 YEARS OLD AND I WAS BORN AND BREAD IN TRABZON CITY AND I VE NEVER SEEN ANY GREEK PONTIAK OR THE PEOPLE CALLED (LAZ) IN MY CITY AT ALL ITS SHAME THEY DONT LIVE HERE IN MY CITY TOGETHER WOULD HAVE BEEN SOO NICE TO LIVE WITH THEM WHERE THEY BELONG TO! BUT FOR SOME SECURITY REASONS THEY HAD TO MOVE TO TRANSFERED TO GREECE! AND MORE TURKS HAD TO LEAVE GREECE TO COME TO (ANATOLIA) TURKEY SO SMILAR SITUATIONS WE HAD IN THE PASS FOR THE SECURITY REASONS REALLY ITS SHAME BUT WE CAN STILL PEACE.
@77godfather much respect mate, nice words...I admire your optimism but there were many bad things that happened at the time. It not as simple to say it was 'Security reasons'...
BY THE WAY HI TANIOLA NICE TO MEET YOU I M FATIH THANKS FOR THE VIDEOS YOU CAN ALWAYS COME TO VISIT US IN TRABZON YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME OKAY SWEET HEART! KISSES AND HUGS TO YOU BYEEEEEEE
@77godfather real turks are Oghuz , ozbeks and uyhgurs ,today non of you look like em, ask urself why ?? . People who live in turkey today are mostly mixed with arabs and kurds , black sea mostly greek !
@theseis Well, Turks branched out all over the place, and of course they mixed, various people adopted a Turkish identity. The same happened in Greece with Slavs, it's still happening with Arvanites who don't speak Arvanitika any more for example. But neither Greekness nor Turkishness can be defined in terms of "race" or "DNA." For both, it's a cultural continuity that has stretched back over centuries, blending in some areas, remaining distinct in others.
@theseis By the way, Uyghurs and Uzbeks are also influenced by surrounding peoples, especially the Persians, many Uyghurs don't look Asiatic at all. It really doesn't matter. We are who we are and we're all a mix. If you did a DNA test tomorrow and found you had 90% Slavic DNA (if that even exists), you would be just as Greek, wouldn't you? We look at Greeks who in 1922 rejected Anatolian Greeks as "tourkosporo" as ignorant. So why should we continue it?
@theseis go learn history, the oghuz turks are the main turkic tribe, modern ozbeks are mixture of orignal karluk turks and mongolians who invaded and got assimilated into adopting turkic language.lol u r one dumb fuck.
@AntiKyrgyz lol fake cunt .. u r oghuz turks eh ? non of you look like each other why is that ? brain washed little 3rd world country inbreed cock sucker ..
@theseis lol, u greeks r the shame of europe, lol and u don't know shit , you greeks are closer to ethiopians than u r to ancient hellenic tribes, who were blonde and light eyed.lol
@AntiKyrgyz lmao tales from a little poor turk , u got nothing good to say and now talking shit about Greeks. Turks destined to loose, Kurds about to take over hahaha we pitty you .bye bye looser mixed race cunt lololo
@kuruvaziyer They were taught to feel Turk and hate like a Turk. What would happen if they all found out that it's all a huge lie? I don't think most of them would be happy.
@Paflos my god what would happen ? I have a friend who knows his grandfather is greek.and he is from trabzon.But he says always that he is Türk.and be sure he is Turk more then me...everyone know their past , nobody is child
@kuruvaziyer The time is coming my friend. You'll be in for a huge surprise.
Janissaries, people don't tend to forget nor forgive. If they get a chance to know their real roots and what the dogs did to their own people, they won't be happy.
@kuruvaziyer Economic crises has more to do with the NWO and the Jews, than the Greeks. You should know, you were in the IMF too.
But worry not, Greeks always found a way to continue their existence through thousands of years, we fear no crises. After all, that's why your masters, "Turks" muslimized Greeks and slaughtered the ones not willing to give up their beliefs, because they were afraid of them.
@Paflos yea european uniun helped for ur crise.u try to work hard not sleep so much :) Merkel was right with her explanation.Germens always work greeks aleyas sleep, why they have to help to greece.Turkiye is enough country for itself.we have everything,thousands of vagetables,animals,agliculture,young population,textile,industry.we dont need anything.and anymre Turkiye dont take money from imf...we are growing day by day.of course u and all eu and usa affraid of this.so u help pkk terrorists..
@theseis Too much propaganda. The only sad thing is that a huge amount of modern "Turks" are waging war of words and actions, towards their real brothers. That's why Greeks can't forget. They managed to steal our children and make them fight against us.
Real Turk or not we are all Muslim and brothers. And don't forget the people who live in Turkey 600 years ruled the world...WE LOVE PEOPLE EVEN THET HATE US.
Real Turk or not we are all Muslim and brothers. And don't forget the people who live in Turkey 600 years ruled the world...WE LOVE PEOPLE EVEN THEY HATE US.
And while turks been mixed with other ethnics, you stay puur? greek?armenian,kurdish? pfff Everybody talks about Turkey and Turks but, most of you know almost nothing about Turkey.. Arabs are different than Turks, they are more likely closer to the Kurds !!! if you don't believe i proove you that :) You can maybe say, turks and greeks are mixed up, that might be, but Turks never mixed with Arabs !!!
HI EVERYONE PEACE TO YOU ALL! FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING TO MY GREEK FRIENDS THAT SOMETING REALLY YOU GUYS DONT KNOW THAT TRABZON CITY PEOPLE ALL ARE 100 % OF OGHUZ TURKS (JEBNI TURKS) (TURKMEN) THERES NONE GREEK OR PONTIAK OR PEOPLE CALLLED LAZ ZERO % LIVES IN TRABZON YOU CAN COME AND SEARCH YOUR SELFS WE ALL TRABZON PEOPLE CONVERT TO ISLAM BEFORE WE CONCORED THE TRABZON CITY OKAY! YOU GUYS KEEP SAYING THERES PONTIAK BROTHERS I CAN GUARANTEE YOU ZERO % REMAINING NO THIS RESPECT
@77godfather What are you talking about. There are tens of thousands of pontic (rum) people in the villages to the south of Trabzon. Yes all are muslim, but many still speak rumca.
I want to say that in Trabzon there are many many people who speak rumca, in greek "pontiaka".They are very friendly with us and we communicate with them easily!!...and that's all!
they live in Turkey in peace and we're doing the same in Greece!!!
@Taniola Yes. They speak a very old dialect of Western Armenian mixed with a lot of loan words from Lazika and Turkish. Unfortunately, those in Turkey have recently become muslim and many deny their Armenian identity, but those who escaped Turkey in critical times remember their Armenian identity and religion.
I think Kazim Koyuncu was actually a Laz or Turk but he was raised with Hemshinlis and was very close to them. I'm not sure about him being Hemshinli. But he did speak Hemshinli.
@77godfather your probably right...i think that's sad...my family originated from there and had to leave, they had to start again in Greece. I think the pontian culture still lives through the Turkish people from that region, or I'd like to think so. I do not believe any Turk is 100% Oghuz because they have mixed with so many different people especially from regions that had many ethnic Greeks well before the Seljuks or Ottoman Empire. So many have converted to Islam in the region.
Ένας λόγος που δεν θα πάω ΠΟΤΕ στην Τουρκία είναι πως θα βράζω μέσα μου κάθε φορά που θα βλέπω παλιά σπίτια και θα ξέρω πως καποιο από αυτά άνηκε στην οικογένεια μου, και θεωρώ ντροπή να πηγαίνετε στους ίδιους τους τόπους μας ως τουρίστες.
No region of Turkey will join to Greece. Megali Idea is to remain forever only as a dream. Turkey belongs to everyone, who are living within their borders.
@spookeagle you could say the same about the native Pontians and Christians couldn't you? Don't you think they deserve a place in Turkey to bask in their roots with no bullshit pressure?
Τραπεζούντα ποντιακή είναι μια πόλη, αλλά πλέον μέρος της γαλοπούλας είναι fucking φροντίδα! Είμαι Τραπεζούντα και λέω «ελεύθερο δημοκρατικό Πόντος γαλοπούλας" ευχαριστώ
υπεροχο ταξιδι!!!!!!!!!ο αντρας μου ειναι ποντιακης καταγωγης και ξερετε οτι οποιος παρει ποντιο καταποντιζεται...!!!!!!χαχα...Τωρα οσο αφορα τις ομοιοτητες ειναι πολλες αν εξαιρεσουμε την προπαγανδα και την δουλικοτητα...........Μακαρι να αξιωθουμε να κανουμε το αναλλογο ταξιδι να δουν και τα παιδια μας τις ριζες τους...καλη συνεχεια..........
Vater, 2 Toechter, und die Enkelin besuchen das Land der Vorfahren = Pontos(=Karadeniz). Auch ein Besuch beim Dorf der Vorfahren, Hamsikoy bei Macka/Trabzon.
Super das du nach deinem Wurzeln schaust. Ich kann euch verstehen, das Land zu besuchen in dem eure Vergangenheit eine sehr große Rolle spielt. Übrigens ich lebe in Deutschland und liebe Griechenland ebenso wie die Türkei.
Bir kültürle yoğrulmak, birlikte kuymak yemek, aynı şarkıları söylemek, aynı oyunları oynamak ve gitmek zorunda kalmak. Özlemek... Tarihi hatanın bedeli karşılıklı olarak çok ağır ödendi.
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bu ne lan skerim sizin yedi ceddinizi. şerefsiz pontus artıkları sizi. Burası Türkiye lan!!!! Biz de Fatih 'in torunlarıyız. Konstantinapol muş... gel de sıkıysa geri al.
the old people all have died already ...! so their kids wont want ccome back..if they want ..!! they should know our doors are opened for them....!! we were brothers in the past so we can be again...!!! we love our pondios
and i love all peoples from trabzon we are very happy to came from trabzon, very very nice video thank you sooooo much taniola i love you for your great video ; )
and i love all peoples from trabzon we are very happy to came from trabzon, very very nice video thank you sooooo much taniola i love you for your great video ; )
vey vey nice video..perfect music and pictures too!!!!mpravo koritsara mou..na sto pw k ellinika.Sumfwnw apoluta mazi sou..sxetika me to sxolio sou parakatw!Telos thelw na sou pw pws xairomai polu pou afto to moutraki pou pou eida sto video skeftetai etsi!!!na sai kala neraidoula!!!!!!!!!
wow! I just got the goose bumps...I'm from Turkey with a Circassian (kafkas mountain people) heritage.I live in U.S and heard some many stories about families being distanced for different reasons. That video clip made me say, "wow" ...that is deep...god bless!
There is a documentary comming out by a native, from my village zeleka (tasoren) in caykara, trabzon. As far as I can tell most people there call themselves "rumca" or "hellenic", but will refrain from using yunan (greek) to describe their identity. The documentary is about the lonlyness of the woman who remained there, after allmost all the men left between the 60's and the 80's.
let me clue you in on something. The Greeks of Greece also called themselves "rum" until the late 18th century when there was a national awakening and they started to call themselves by their old name "Ellines". Just because you don't want to call my people "yunan" does not mean we are any less Greek. btw, if you notice my last name, my family comes from the town of Bafra on the black sea, but we do not have a "B" in our language.
I said the people themselves dont want to be called Yunan. I didnt say we are not Greek, as I myself am Pontic Greek as well. We have Turkish names too, but I do not feel any need for Greek nationalism, or nationalism of any kind. My (Islamic-Greek) great-grandfather died in WW1 in the fight against the Russians, while Greek-Christians from nearby villages fought with the Russians against the Turks. That is why the villagers dont want to be called "Yunan", as for many it is the name of betrail.
Well, as I am sure you already know, Greeks do not consider Greek converts to islam as being Greek. Pretty much, a Greek can only be Orthodox. This is how our culture views it. This is why we deported Greek speaking muslims from Crete in 1923. lastly, Muslims do not deserve the name Rum because they are not part of the Rum-Millet. Only Christians may be part of that Millet. I do not care for nationalism either and I have nothing against Turks. I am just stating the facts.
@nickpafras so you kind of admit that you and your mind is at least as cruel as those people who force others to convert to another religion?
what a nonsense, youre proud of people being deported? deported from a place they called home? imagine how it must feel, imagine someone comes to you and forces you to leave home and its impossible for you to come back.
If this is what you think is God s will there u go ! But this is all paradox and only an abuse of religion in the name of fanatism
This may not seem logical to you, but this is how we view things. Even if a Greek would convert to Islam in Greece today, everybody will call him Turk.
@nickpafras Yes, and I think hatred between Muslims and Christians is why the Greeks in Turkey dont want to be called Greeks, as they dont feel greek. We are Pontic-Greek though, if you like it or not. How do you want to create peace and respect if you can not even accept a Greek who is Muslim. This is truely very sad. I know the pain lies deep as the Christian Greeks view Muslim Greeks as betrayers and the other way around. But this is 100 years ago, we must move on now.
I mean, if you go to the villages you will know we are Greek. We dance the same dance, we speak the same language, we wear the same clothes, we eat the same food, we build the same houses, we live the same lives, we call our villages by the Greek name, etc. The only thing to break us apart was the war. I know for sure you will be welcomed if you come to Karadeniz, for there are tens of thousands of people just like you, that can understand you and will dance with you.
I am sure you are all very nice people and I have nothing against you. But you are not Greek. Being Greek is more than just a language or dances, it is a way of thinking. No self-respecting Greek would ever willingly call himself Turk or wave the turkish flag with pride. Trust me, I have nothing against you, I am just telling you Greeks think.
I will be honest with you. If you were Greek you would realize who your ancestors were and how they were a part of a ancestral line of people and that the only reason that you and your people are now muslims and speak turkish is because invaders from asia made you this way. that is the sad truth. And if they did not make you that way and you made yourself that way willingly, that is even worse.
Yes, yes, but as I mentioned I dont care about nationalism or religion. I am not muslim but atheist. I feel Greek, Turk, European, Asian and Human all at once. I dont care what others think about me. I hope you will respect me for this.
of course I respect your opinion. But it seems to me that you are stuck in between worlds and identities which seems like a consequence of trying to make proud Greek christians of Pontos who have been there for thousands of years into proud turks.
Hey guys, I think its time to make clear some things.. Everyone on this planet is free to feel as he\she likes.. have any religion he/she wants and call himself\herself as he/she likes! If ou feel Greek and Muslim its fine! If you feel Greek and Christian is fine too! If you feel Turkish and Christian is great! if you feel Turkish and Muslim is great too! There is nobody who says what is right and what is not what is true and what is false. Be whatever you feel you are.
@nickpafras In Ottoman times, in a Muslim empire (more than a Turkish one per se), where people were defined by religion, it made sense. Today, in the age of nation states and nationality is defined in different ways, it doesn't really. How can we ever move forward if our heads are stuck in 1922? Even my grandfather was young then; our great grandparents did terrible things to each other, some of them died. We're alive, we have a new chance to do things better. Every good person is a new chance.
NA ZHTE PANTA !! NA ZHSEI O PONTOS !! OLOI EMEIS OI PROSFYGES AS EIMASTE ENOMENOI , NA MHN XASOUME POTE TIS PARADOSEIS MAS , THN TAYTOTHTA MAS , TA PAIDIA MAS !! OLH MAS THN AGAPH APO TOUS ARMENIOUS THS ELLADOS STA ADERFIA MAS!!!
cronusmano 4 days ago
please welcome back to trabzon all our citizens
legendfull34 1 week ago
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pontian dreaming...greek and pontian were under turkish control for many years? how u know ur grand grand dad werent turk, arabic, bulgarian etc?..there were many nation in ottoman empire..but selanik and athina ll be our cities at soon...
61TurboLover 2 weeks ago
long live immortal Greek Constantinople!!
FOTARAStheGREEK 1 month ago
@FOTARAStheGREEK; DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE YEAR '' 1453 - FATIH SULTAN MEHMET ''
FORGET ABOUT CONSTANTIN...........
THINK ABOUT '' ISTANBUL ''
BEAUTIFUL ISTANBUL......
34timsah 3 weeks ago
my family from trapezounta but its live in greece :(
OneManHasFun 1 month ago
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turkish dance and culture like his politic: COMING QUICKLY, KILLING QUICKLY , STEALING QUICKLY. Before turks in Anatolia were living GREEKS and ARMINIANS, in his MOTHERLAND during mileniums since the first days of the world, and then (from faaaaaar- faaaaaar away) turks came from his motherland and killing, then stealing the cuture of GREEKS and ARMINIANS now they have "culture and country". SHAME ON YOU. turkey must recognise the GENOCIDE of GREEKS and ARMINIANS. SHAME ON YOU !!!
davonhasav 2 months ago
only team i support of turkish süper league is trapzonspor and giresunspor... fuck Fenerbahce and galatasaray
Kerasounta 3 months ago
konstantinopellll ! trabzone..! armania! roma ! rum! hitit ! lidya ! Türkey ist unsere neam ! wan minuut layyyn! wan munitt! sör! hepimiz osmanliyiz! sikerim digerlerini!
osmanliyim1969 3 months ago
is this trabzon which is in Turkey ?? hehe trabzon very beautiful place
leaanka 4 months ago
шимдилик беним шу яхды а нлаян вармы аранызда?
бурадада хер к афадан бир сес чыкыюр
gyreenedoc 4 months ago
Κλαιω και μονο που βλεπω τα μερη που καποτε εκει ζουσε ο παππου μου...
Spiros650S 7 months ago
KARADENIZ BENIM BLACK SEA IS MY SCHWARZES MEER IST MEINS.....
ICH BIN AUS TRABZON UND WERDE DIESES LAND MIT DER STADT IMMER HÜTTEN..... ICH LIEBE MEINE STADT MEIN LAND UND BIN EIN STOLZER MOSLEM
SEID ZEUGE DAVON FALLS MAN SICH IM JENNSEITS SIEHT....
TEKBIR ALLLAHU EKBER TEKBIR ALLLAHU EKBER........ MÖGE ALLAH EUCH RECHTLEITEN
sendoci 7 months ago
@sendoci KARADENİZ TÜRK MÜSLÜMANLARIN hahahahaha:))))9
hepdamar24 5 months ago
@hepdamar24 kalbi atan herkesindir . topragimi paylasamadin .
hothelena 4 months ago
@hothelena ewet yunanlılarla asla paylasmam toprağımı kalles insanlar aç gözlüler
hepdamar24 3 months ago
@hepdamar24 Ben senin bir tane yunan bile tanidigi sanmiyorum . ve Turku yunani arabi ermenisi yok bu topraklar herkesin , herkes senden once vardi senden sonrada varolacak , mutlu olmaya , bak irk din insan ayirana kadar...
hothelena 2 months ago
like your video girls..wonderfull...I wish .i will go to selanik one day and where my grandparents use to live.but i am not lucky like you..girls.. no informations just we know they use to live selanik.
MrThemuzzy 9 months ago
dream dream dream dream,wakeup lads there is a TURKIYEEEEE
MrThemuzzy 10 months ago
@MrThemuzzy FUCK TURKIYEEEEE OUR DREAM IS OUR DREAM U CAN NOT DESTROY IT. O PONTOS ZEI !
SUPER3analipsis 7 months ago
Im a Turk and i been to Greece 6 times :)
Kaptanspark 10 months ago 2
@Kaptanspark
that's very hopeful!!!
Taniola 10 months ago
@Taniola Yes, nice country with nice people, just pitty there are still people that hate each-other without a real reason.. I hate hate :) Hope one day Greece n Turkey will act like real neighbours. xxx
Kaptanspark 10 months ago
@Kaptanspark the only reason to hate each other, is politics.Politics created the genocides, the wars...the hatred....politicians are the ones to hate....for everything...
Theokondak 1 month ago
Unforgettable trip!!!I I left my heart there...
sissiola1 10 months ago
Geia sou patrida:)
metallist23 11 months ago
ich komme aus Macka ich lade alle Leute nach macka ein, wir freuen auf euch alle. ihr seit wie mir seht auch aus wie mir ich habe fiele Touristen in macka Gessen und mit innen gesprochen sie haben ihre wurzel in macka sie sind laz wie mir mein Oba hatte als Kind Rumische freunde sie haben zusamen gespielt wir sind freund mit der gleiche Kultur und musik Es lebe kemence es lebe Trabzonspor
musti6134 1 year ago 7
PAST IS PAST...NOW ISTANBUL AND TRABZON ARE TURK'S... AND SELANIK AND ETC IS GREEK'S... JUST BE FRIEND..DONT MAKE A PLAN HOW TO TAKE ISTANBUL AND TRABZON BACK :))) BECAUSE NEVER !! :)
kuruvaziyer 1 year ago
@kuruvaziyer read this comment of your. If you want to broaden your horizon... learn the golden mean... there you will find we beat the same frequency. you will find the whole region of this area was destabalised for greed. Ie the establishment which attaturk was apart of - he had the ancient knowledge at hand. Its a shame because the whole area was united for a long time through the ages through different empires. Now we are scattered across the earth wondering why? retreat into yourself truth
wellwellwellall 10 months ago
Great video great music. I wish one day we'll all come together and live together. Without you it's too lonely in Trabzon!
elifmeralkerim 1 year ago
hi im from trabzon city and i live in germany we have so many old bildings from the greecks in ouer litle city its great to see people from greece here they visite this town every year,cultural understanding ;)
Komofti6161 1 year ago
В 21 веке человечество сделает огромный рывок во всех областях науки:приземлится на Марсе,появятся альтернативные источники энергии для того чтобы спасти планету уйдут все варварские методы уйдут прочь(АЭС,автомобили ДВС...)вместе с этим и исчезнут варварские народы и государства которым является Турция,Стамбул станет Константенополем,Турция будет называтся Византией а Армения опять возродится в Великую Армению.И эти два народа будут восстанавливать памятники архитектуры которые веками ламали.
ASHOT149 1 year ago
@ASHOT149
на самом деле?
Taniola 1 year ago
@Taniola уважаеми история показывает что все гасударство которые построены на крави других народов долго немогут просушествовать какими бы ани небыли мощными пример государство чингиз хана залатое орда. римская иперия .велико британи тоже окупировал пол мира свое время .советский союз тоже рухнул .а что турция построена на крови и на костях христян уже пришло его очеред
ASHOT149 1 year ago
@Taniola мои предсказание начали сбываться воение действо в арабском мире землетрясение и цунами взрыв АЭС в Японии но то что будет с Турцией это боюсь даже говорить ..............
ASHOT149 11 months ago
@ASHOT149
U tebya otlıchnoya mechta Chuvak...Tı doljen pısat knıgı dlya Armyan, mojesh ıh horsho pbmanut:) Gde tı jvesh Chuvak? Vıdno shto ne v etom mıre.
TurkishPartizan 1 year ago
@TurkishPartizan я тебя приветствую друг мой чуваком тебя називать не стану вдруг обидешся огромное спасибо что написал ответ на мои коментарии . братишка ти ошибаешя я прошёл через эту войну в карабахе и понел что 21 веке войной вопросы не решиш есть боле гуманые методы решения .потвоему вопрос тебе как их решать?
ASHOT149 1 year ago
@ASHOT149
U nas net kakıh problem ne s Armyan ı ne s ostalnımı narodamı... Mı ı vaynu ne hotım ne skem... Hotım mıra, no tı kak ostlanıe Armyanı provakatsırete, govorıte bolshıe slova... IU nas net zemlıı shtobo prosta podarıt drugım a eslı eta vas ne ustraıvaet shto Ararat seychas nahodıtsa v Turtsıı prıdetsa voevat s namı...
TurkishPartizan 1 year ago
@TurkishPartizan советски союз тоже говорил что хотим мира и вето время воевал в афганистане чехословакии ........... ленин и ваш ата турк были саратниками и оба создали 2 тотолитарных государство в ссср казнили растреевали всех кто против камунистов а в турци просто виризали тех кто не турок и не мусулманин тоест уничтожали христян этнических народов пантиских греков армян асирийцев ветом им хорошо помогали курды а когда всех вирезали тепер уничтожают курдов . ссср рухнул чя тепер очередь ?
ASHOT149 1 year ago
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TurkishPartizan 1 year ago
@ASHOT149
Tolko nado chestno rasskazat ludyam ıstorıyu o to onı dumayut shto Turkı krovojadnıe ludı.I vı Armyanı chasto govorıte nepravdu, ı napadaete na nas cherez Hrıstıyanstvo. Kogda sozdalı novuyu Turetskuyu Respublıku, koznılı ı Turak ne tolko Armyan ılı Hrıstıyanın. Onı ubılı ne tolko Hrıstıyanın ı Musulmanın. Skolko tısıch relıgızonıy chelovek onı koznılı ı pushut nasha ustorıe ı ıstorıkı. Bılı katastrofı v to vremya ya prıznayus.Vsenasalanıe stradalo. No na shet armyan vı ne prav.
TurkishPartizan 1 year ago
@ASHOT149
Potomushto vı obyavılı vaynu , voevalı shtobı sozdat svoyu gosudarstvu. Prıznaete pojalusta, vas ıspolzovalı Russkıe, Fransuzı protıv nas. I potom ostavılı odın s namı. Tolko ochn jal shto ız za vas stradalı ı pogıblı sovsem ne vnovnıe ludı.Ya znayu shto vı vudete ochen rad ı jdete kogda Turtsıya ruhnet, no ya vam govoryu zrya jdete.
TurkishPartizan 1 year ago
@TurkishPartizan турецкая провительство самое карумпированое в европе увас не соблюдаются права простих турков я уже не говорю о других народов особено христян увас суды полиция всё подкупно ти умный человек зря защишаеш своё повительство youtube ест ролик про вашего ата турка напиши на поисковике '''турецкий идол мустафа ататурк'' и ти узнаеш всю правду про этого изверга
ASHOT149 1 year ago
@ASHOT149
Ya pro nevo znayu mnogo chevo. Ya svoe pravıtelsvo ne zashıshayu, ya hochu naytı pravdu ı govorıt ıstınu. Eto tı snachala doljen posmotrıt chevo zashıshaesh.. Vot mı smotrım vıdeo zdes, grekı v Trabzone tansuyut, poyut. Ya raduyus shto ludı mırno jvut v etoy strane. 200.000 armyan ne legalno rabotaet v Turtsıı v dannıy moment. Ya gorjus etım. Odın vopros.... Mojet odın Turak hot skazat v Erıvane shto on Turak ı ız Turtsıı? Golovu otorvut na meste.
TurkishPartizan 1 year ago
@TurkishPartizan я напалавину понтийский грек на половину армян мои предки жили трабизоне и городе муше 1915 году был геноцид армян 1919 году геноцид понтейских греков это отрецать не возможно потомушто есть очень много фактов если турецкая провительство официально примет геноцид греков и армян я уверень что ми все будем жить в дружбе и согласии например гармания прзнал факт геноцида над евреями и уних всё нормално нет претензии желаю тебя удачи пыло приятно стобой обшатся
ASHOT149 1 year ago
@ASHOT149
Vam rekomenduyu chıtat knıgu Pushkına, kotoruyu on pısal kogda on bıl v Erzurume... On tam chetko ı yasno obısbıt kak armaynı v Russkoy armıı ubılı Turak. Vı uvıdıte s chego nachılıs problemı. Vam toje udachı. Ya tolko hochu govorıt ıstını a ne zashıshat kovo to.
TurkishPartizan 1 year ago
@TurkishPartizan приветствую тебе книгу обезательно прочту пушкина отвечу на твой вопрос турок по национальности если приедет в ереван мне кажется его не тронут и вопше зачем его трогать ну по моему его некто не тронет я за армян немогу сказать я не живу в армение скинхедов там нет они все в москве да я тоже не хочу войну надо решать дипломатично
ASHOT149 1 year ago
@ASHOT149
Hotite pochti polavınu turtsıyuu, kto komu dıplomatıchno podarıl polavına svoyu stranu?
TurkishPartizan 1 year ago
@TurkishPartizan ти говориш правильно мои предки жили 3000 лет ветих городах драбизоне муше ви их истребили уничтожали вигнали тут ненадо никакой дипломати вернём свои земли у турков как вернули карабах армяны сылные войны про грек не могу тожэ самое сказать потомучто досихпор не вернули северный кипр просто знай одно армяни и греки здес были и будут всегда варворы которые нас захватовали долго здес не задержывались а их было много .....................
ASHOT149 1 year ago
Турки-сельджуки в 11 веке когда прибыли из Казахстано-Монгольских степей они не выглядели как выглядят сегодня потому-что относились к монголоидной расе то есть ускоглазые,маленькие,кривоногие,жёлтокожие.В результате эти монголоиды смешивались с местным населением(Греками,Армянами,Асирийцами) и в результате получилась непонятная раса хоть они называют себя турками если разобраца на геннетическом уровне это потомки или армян или греков или асирийцев.У них идеалогия осталась только турецкая.
ASHOT149 1 year ago
Alright...I've devised a plan...I will gather every Pontic/Anatolian Greek I know, every Assyrian, every Laz Georgian, every Jew with Ottoman heritage and every Armenian from Australia and were coming to Trabzon, Van and Samsun to live and reclaim our past. Lets see how many people will accept us with kisses and hugs, lets see how long we last there...
FridayNightFilms1 1 year ago
@FridayNightFilms1
there is no need, my friend, to leave our homes and go live there...I suppose we all have a home somewhere, friends, lifes...it's too late to return and live in Anatolia...
but!!!! we can visit our FATHERLAND, see,smell, taste, touch, speak, LOVE!
Taniola 1 year ago
@Taniola
Hey where are you from?
I'm from Macka but I live in the USA now. When I see you Pontian people in my city, I feel really happy. Our accents are even like yours. Pontian people look like us. Also, my grandmother sometimes uses Greek words. Our cultures are really similar. I wish your fathers didn't leave Trabzon. Visit Trabzon always and say to other Greek people that we are friends.
emrahb61 1 year ago
@emrahb61
I appriciate you, my friend, you're really a peacfull and open minded person!!
Trabzon has nothing to lose from our visits...we come with sooo emotion and love for the place and the people!!! we respect you all, and we thank you for your hospitality especially your goverment who gave the permission to celebrate our feast in Panagia Sumela this summer. All the Pontians, we were soooo excited!!!
I'm sure, next summer more and more visitors will travel in Trabzon!!
Taniola 1 year ago
@Taniola
thanks for the compliments.
Things gain value when we share them. So, this celebrating is your right.
I hope that we will see you every year more and more in Sümela.
However, I don't like my government for different reasons :)
My grandmother wanted to go to Sümela when you were celebrating, but authorities didn't allow her. She always wonders you. Also I saw on your video, Hamsiköy is your father's village. It is also my grandmother's village.
I want to learn something from you.
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emrahb61 1 year ago
@Taniola everything changed with Christ, and will change again soon. my friend, God saw how lambs were expelled from their homeland and return is His decision. the path is rough and weight is heavy now, but reward is where Our Heavenly Father is. this land is where All Saints walked and prayed, that is why is so beautiful.that is why it smells Holy Fragrance everywhere in Anatolia. and also that's why devil hates much of this beauty.Kri Isu Xriste Eleison Me, Lord Jesus Christ Have Mercy On Me.
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@Taniola
Hey where are you from?
I'm from Macka but I live in the USA now. When I see you Pontian people in my city, I feel really happy. Our accents are even like yours. Pontian people look like us. Also, my grandmother sometimes uses Greek words. Our cultures are really similar. I wish your fathers didn't leave Trabzon. Visit Trabzon always and say to other Greek people that we are friends.
emrahb61 1 year ago
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emrahb61 1 year ago
@MrSpsm yes brother they are not killed they moved to greece and same numbers of turks moved to turkey from greece! thats what the 2 goverments did agree together right! dont tell me i kill them mate! cause other ways i am gonna have to tell you that you killed all turks in greece and still now your goverment dont wanna eccept the turkish population there right! they are millions in greece mate thats why! but we never did that so dont worry mate leave the history to politicians! peace .
77godfather 1 year ago
@TANIOLA BABES SOMEONE CALLED NICK NAMED theseis his really start being racist here and i think his gonna be more funnier! can you please sort him out just chuck him out of here we dont need racist people here! thanks best wishes to everyone bye
77godfather 1 year ago
@77godfather ΟΚ. BUT HOW COULD EXIST GREEK PEOPLE THERE???
YOU KILLED THEM....
Peace..........
MrSpsm 1 year ago
@TANIOLA HI DARLING HOW ARE YOU OKAY? LONG TIME NO HEAR I HOPE YOU FINE SWEET HEART! KISSES AND HUGS FROM FATIH MWAH XXX
77godfather 1 year ago
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@theseis okay if thats the case so small nation like greece they have been mixed by ottomans romans italian macedonians and bulgarians and russians right? or now you gonna still deny it mate :) listen stop being ediot you have to know that uygurs and ozbeks are a different tripes of asia okay what are you going about! you have to know first of all the real turks are turkmenistan turks of turkey azerbaijan and tataristan and balkan turks stop talking how do we look like and how do you look.
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77godfather 1 year ago
@FridayNightFilms1 whatever you say i understand you feelings brother and sharing with you ***
77godfather 1 year ago
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77godfather 1 year ago
@theseis yes mate if youare talking about the mix staff do you think all greeks are 100 % greek ? no mate when it comes to talk about we turks 100 % real turks you want to deny it and when it comes to your selfs you are not in the same situation right? that dosent work that way you only want to see things the way you wanna see so open your eyes little bit more please i had enogh really! we have not mixed with greeks here why dont you wanna beleive in that ? respect to all bye
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77godfather 1 year ago
Such a beautiful tune. Long live Greek, Anatolian and Caucasian cultures.
Arzive 1 year ago
life is life my friends and its very short! well so try to enjoy every moment of its BEAUTIES and listen to the BEAUTIFUL GIRL TANIOLA HARD WORKER ON PEACE MAKING MY SWEET KOMSU KEEP GOING I AM WITH YOU ALL THE WAY AND I AM SURE ALL TURKEY AND WARM TRABZON PEOPLE SUPPORTS YOU TOO DARLING WELL DONE KISSES AND HUGS TAKE CARE AND GOOD LUCK XXX
77godfather 1 year ago 4
I AM 33 YEARS OLD AND I WAS BORN AND BREAD IN TRABZON CITY AND I VE NEVER SEEN ANY GREEK PONTIAK OR THE PEOPLE CALLED (LAZ) IN MY CITY AT ALL ITS SHAME THEY DONT LIVE HERE IN MY CITY TOGETHER WOULD HAVE BEEN SOO NICE TO LIVE WITH THEM WHERE THEY BELONG TO! BUT FOR SOME SECURITY REASONS THEY HAD TO MOVE TO TRANSFERED TO GREECE! AND MORE TURKS HAD TO LEAVE GREECE TO COME TO (ANATOLIA) TURKEY SO SMILAR SITUATIONS WE HAD IN THE PASS FOR THE SECURITY REASONS REALLY ITS SHAME BUT WE CAN STILL PEACE.
77godfather 1 year ago
@77godfather much respect mate, nice words...I admire your optimism but there were many bad things that happened at the time. It not as simple to say it was 'Security reasons'...
Thanks for your words
FridayNightFilms1 1 year ago
BY THE WAY HI TANIOLA NICE TO MEET YOU I M FATIH THANKS FOR THE VIDEOS YOU CAN ALWAYS COME TO VISIT US IN TRABZON YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME OKAY SWEET HEART! KISSES AND HUGS TO YOU BYEEEEEEE
77godfather 1 year ago 2
@77godfather thanks a lot!
Taniola 1 year ago
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theseis 1 year ago
@77godfather real turks are Oghuz , ozbeks and uyhgurs ,today non of you look like em, ask urself why ?? . People who live in turkey today are mostly mixed with arabs and kurds , black sea mostly greek !
theseis 1 year ago 7
@theseis Well, Turks branched out all over the place, and of course they mixed, various people adopted a Turkish identity. The same happened in Greece with Slavs, it's still happening with Arvanites who don't speak Arvanitika any more for example. But neither Greekness nor Turkishness can be defined in terms of "race" or "DNA." For both, it's a cultural continuity that has stretched back over centuries, blending in some areas, remaining distinct in others.
sazji 1 year ago
@theseis By the way, Uyghurs and Uzbeks are also influenced by surrounding peoples, especially the Persians, many Uyghurs don't look Asiatic at all. It really doesn't matter. We are who we are and we're all a mix. If you did a DNA test tomorrow and found you had 90% Slavic DNA (if that even exists), you would be just as Greek, wouldn't you? We look at Greeks who in 1922 rejected Anatolian Greeks as "tourkosporo" as ignorant. So why should we continue it?
sazji 1 year ago
@theseis go learn history, the oghuz turks are the main turkic tribe, modern ozbeks are mixture of orignal karluk turks and mongolians who invaded and got assimilated into adopting turkic language.lol u r one dumb fuck.
AntiKyrgyz 1 year ago
@AntiKyrgyz dont care about ur shitty history . I was talking about people in modern Turkey today non of em look like turks in the past.
theseis 1 year ago
@theseis we are oghuz turks, u deranged mutherfucker, oh u greeks don't know shit about our history or our turkic tribes, go fuck a goat.
AntiKyrgyz 1 year ago
@AntiKyrgyz lol fake cunt .. u r oghuz turks eh ? non of you look like each other why is that ? brain washed little 3rd world country inbreed cock sucker ..
theseis 1 year ago
@theseis lol, u greeks r the shame of europe, lol and u don't know shit , you greeks are closer to ethiopians than u r to ancient hellenic tribes, who were blonde and light eyed.lol
AntiKyrgyz 1 year ago
@AntiKyrgyz lmao tales from a little poor turk , u got nothing good to say and now talking shit about Greeks. Turks destined to loose, Kurds about to take over hahaha we pitty you .bye bye looser mixed race cunt lololo
theseis 1 year ago
@theseis lol, u idiots are a mixture of people w from ethiopia, you are also the shame of europe, why do u think those riots happened last year lol.
AntiKyrgyz 1 year ago
@theseis it is not important.any nation is pure . but we have 70.000.000 people in Turkiye who are feeling as Turk :)
kuruvaziyer 1 year ago
@kuruvaziyer They were taught to feel Turk and hate like a Turk. What would happen if they all found out that it's all a huge lie? I don't think most of them would be happy.
Paflos 1 year ago
@Paflos my god what would happen ? I have a friend who knows his grandfather is greek.and he is from trabzon.But he says always that he is Türk.and be sure he is Turk more then me...everyone know their past , nobody is child
kuruvaziyer 1 year ago
@kuruvaziyer The time is coming my friend. You'll be in for a huge surprise.
Janissaries, people don't tend to forget nor forgive. If they get a chance to know their real roots and what the dogs did to their own people, they won't be happy.
Paflos 1 year ago
@Paflos dream :))) u should wake up...by the way greeks are always sleaping so u had economical chrises :) stand up pls :)))
kuruvaziyer 1 year ago
@kuruvaziyer Economic crises has more to do with the NWO and the Jews, than the Greeks. You should know, you were in the IMF too.
But worry not, Greeks always found a way to continue their existence through thousands of years, we fear no crises. After all, that's why your masters, "Turks" muslimized Greeks and slaughtered the ones not willing to give up their beliefs, because they were afraid of them.
Paflos 1 year ago
@Paflos yea european uniun helped for ur crise.u try to work hard not sleep so much :) Merkel was right with her explanation.Germens always work greeks aleyas sleep, why they have to help to greece.Turkiye is enough country for itself.we have everything,thousands of vagetables,animals,agliculture,young population,textile,industry.we dont need anything.and anymre Turkiye dont take money from imf...we are growing day by day.of course u and all eu and usa affraid of this.so u help pkk terrorists..
kuruvaziyer 1 year ago
@theseis Too much propaganda. The only sad thing is that a huge amount of modern "Turks" are waging war of words and actions, towards their real brothers. That's why Greeks can't forget. They managed to steal our children and make them fight against us.
Paflos 1 year ago
@theseis
Real Turk or not we are all Muslim and brothers. And don't forget the people who live in Turkey 600 years ruled the world...WE LOVE PEOPLE EVEN THET HATE US.
TurkishPartizan 1 year ago
@theseis
Real Turk or not we are all Muslim and brothers. And don't forget the people who live in Turkey 600 years ruled the world...WE LOVE PEOPLE EVEN THEY HATE US.
TurkishPartizan 1 year ago
And while turks been mixed with other ethnics, you stay puur? greek?armenian,kurdish? pfff Everybody talks about Turkey and Turks but, most of you know almost nothing about Turkey.. Arabs are different than Turks, they are more likely closer to the Kurds !!! if you don't believe i proove you that :) You can maybe say, turks and greeks are mixed up, that might be, but Turks never mixed with Arabs !!!
Kaptanspark 10 months ago
HI EVERYONE PEACE TO YOU ALL! FIRST OF ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING TO MY GREEK FRIENDS THAT SOMETING REALLY YOU GUYS DONT KNOW THAT TRABZON CITY PEOPLE ALL ARE 100 % OF OGHUZ TURKS (JEBNI TURKS) (TURKMEN) THERES NONE GREEK OR PONTIAK OR PEOPLE CALLLED LAZ ZERO % LIVES IN TRABZON YOU CAN COME AND SEARCH YOUR SELFS WE ALL TRABZON PEOPLE CONVERT TO ISLAM BEFORE WE CONCORED THE TRABZON CITY OKAY! YOU GUYS KEEP SAYING THERES PONTIAK BROTHERS I CAN GUARANTEE YOU ZERO % REMAINING NO THIS RESPECT
77godfather 1 year ago 2
@77godfather What are you talking about. There are tens of thousands of pontic (rum) people in the villages to the south of Trabzon. Yes all are muslim, but many still speak rumca.
ikilicoglu 1 year ago
@77godfather
I want to say that in Trabzon there are many many people who speak rumca, in greek "pontiaka".They are very friendly with us and we communicate with them easily!!...and that's all!
they live in Turkey in peace and we're doing the same in Greece!!!
Taniola 1 year ago 2
@Taniola Rumca/Pontiaka is to Greeks what Hemsin/Hamshen is to Armenians.
Arzive 1 year ago
@Arzive
I've just found a video for Hamshen Armenians and I 've just learned about those people...similar life course!
I also did'nt know that Kazim Koyuncu was a Hamshen Armenian!
thank you!
Taniola 1 year ago
@Taniola Yes. They speak a very old dialect of Western Armenian mixed with a lot of loan words from Lazika and Turkish. Unfortunately, those in Turkey have recently become muslim and many deny their Armenian identity, but those who escaped Turkey in critical times remember their Armenian identity and religion.
I think Kazim Koyuncu was actually a Laz or Turk but he was raised with Hemshinlis and was very close to them. I'm not sure about him being Hemshinli. But he did speak Hemshinli.
Arzive 1 year ago
@77godfather your probably right...i think that's sad...my family originated from there and had to leave, they had to start again in Greece. I think the pontian culture still lives through the Turkish people from that region, or I'd like to think so. I do not believe any Turk is 100% Oghuz because they have mixed with so many different people especially from regions that had many ethnic Greeks well before the Seljuks or Ottoman Empire. So many have converted to Islam in the region.
FridayNightFilms1 1 year ago
@77godfather ΟΚ. BUT HOW COULD EXIST GREEK PEOPLE THERE???
YOU KILLED THEM..
Peace.........
MrSpsm 1 year ago
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@77godfather ΟΚ. BUT HOW COULD EXIST GREEK PEOPLE THERE???
YOU KILLED THEM....
Peace..........
MrSpsm 1 year ago
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@77godfather ΟΚ. BUT HOW COULD EXIST GREEK PEOPLE THERE???
YOU KILLED THEM....
Peace..........
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@77godfather ΟΚ. BUT HOW COULD EXIST GREEK PEOPLE THERE???
YOU KILLED THEM....
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MrSpsm 1 year ago
@77godfather ΟΚ. BUT HOW COULD EXIST GREEK PEOPLE THERE???
YOU KILLED THEM....
Peace..........
MrSpsm 1 year ago
@77godfather
thats my land
you are turists there
progonolatreia 1 year ago
@ageladakos χαλάρωσε φιλαράκο! ζούμε σε νέο Αιώνα!
Taniola 1 year ago
Ένας λόγος που δεν θα πάω ΠΟΤΕ στην Τουρκία είναι πως θα βράζω μέσα μου κάθε φορά που θα βλέπω παλιά σπίτια και θα ξέρω πως καποιο από αυτά άνηκε στην οικογένεια μου, και θεωρώ ντροπή να πηγαίνετε στους ίδιους τους τόπους μας ως τουρίστες.
ageladakos 1 year ago
How the greeks settled from Greece to Eastern Black Sea thousands years ago ??
CaptainBaseball 1 year ago
ευχαριστώ για τη συμμετοχή Laz Laz είναι ότι δεν είναι Τούρκοι, ώστε ποντιακή Λαζοί δεν είναι θαύμα!
oliverKahn1969 1 year ago
No region of Turkey will join to Greece. Megali Idea is to remain forever only as a dream. Turkey belongs to everyone, who are living within their borders.
spookeagle 1 year ago
@spookeagle you could say the same about the native Pontians and Christians couldn't you? Don't you think they deserve a place in Turkey to bask in their roots with no bullshit pressure?
FridayNightFilms1 1 year ago
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spookeagle 1 year ago
Well Done Cousin, so proud of you!!! - AKRITES PONTI!!
pontios007 1 year ago 2
Τραπεζούντα ποντιακή είναι μια πόλη, αλλά πλέον μέρος της γαλοπούλας είναι fucking φροντίδα! Είμαι Τραπεζούντα και λέω «ελεύθερο δημοκρατικό Πόντος γαλοπούλας" ευχαριστώ
oliverKahn1969 1 year ago
υπεροχο ταξιδι!!!!!!!!!ο αντρας μου ειναι ποντιακης καταγωγης και ξερετε οτι οποιος παρει ποντιο καταποντιζεται...!!!!!!χαχα...Τωρα οσο αφορα τις ομοιοτητες ειναι πολλες αν εξαιρεσουμε την προπαγανδα και την δουλικοτητα...........Μακαρι να αξιωθουμε να κανουμε το αναλλογο ταξιδι να δουν και τα παιδια μας τις ριζες τους...καλη συνεχεια..........
MegaSmaragda 1 year ago
@GiresunsporFener28
Vater, 2 Toechter, und die Enkelin besuchen das Land der Vorfahren = Pontos(=Karadeniz). Auch ein Besuch beim Dorf der Vorfahren, Hamsikoy bei Macka/Trabzon.
kalaimeras 1 year ago
ı am from trabzon,,beatuful fotos
LEMONDE57 1 year ago
Super das du nach deinem Wurzeln schaust. Ich kann euch verstehen, das Land zu besuchen in dem eure Vergangenheit eine sehr große Rolle spielt. Übrigens ich lebe in Deutschland und liebe Griechenland ebenso wie die Türkei.
arpacay1 1 year ago
Fuck the mongols,the only history they have is the masacres and genosides.
technologicalsky 1 year ago
fovero video,kai fovvero taksidi.....,otan vlepo Ponto me pianoun ta klamata...... :-(
mrdinoulis 1 year ago
Bir kültürle yoğrulmak, birlikte kuymak yemek, aynı şarkıları söylemek, aynı oyunları oynamak ve gitmek zorunda kalmak. Özlemek... Tarihi hatanın bedeli karşılıklı olarak çok ağır ödendi.
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BloodyBroccoli 1 year ago
wraia ta logia sou! makari na mporesw na paw ki egw mia fora... kai eisai kai koukla..
freshairrr 1 year ago
bu ne lan skerim sizin yedi ceddinizi. şerefsiz pontus artıkları sizi. Burası Türkiye lan!!!! Biz de Fatih 'in torunlarıyız. Konstantinapol muş... gel de sıkıysa geri al.
henry00025 1 year ago
@henry00025 turkler TRAPEZOUNTA 1461 almis , ne boch gion sen
onu ne soilion muntarsin ne sikerim nie gonusuon pezewenoglu eseulesek abtal, sen gel bouria biz siketses seni aip .
AthanatosSAVVASGR 1 year ago
the old people all have died already ...! so their kids wont want ccome back..if they want ..!! they should know our doors are opened for them....!! we were brothers in the past so we can be again...!!! we love our pondios
williamxcyprus 1 year ago
thank you ! Taniola
turkoglu1975 1 year ago
το τραγούδι το τραγουδάει και η Sezen Aksu και αναφέρεται ακριβώς στις αναμνήσεις της παιδικής ηλικίας....(Sardunyalar)
Μοναδικό ταξίδι πράγματι!
mavrothalassa 1 year ago
and i love all peoples from trabzon we are very happy to came from trabzon, very very nice video thank you sooooo much taniola i love you for your great video ; )
SportingTrabzon 1 year ago 2
and i love all peoples from trabzon we are very happy to came from trabzon, very very nice video thank you sooooo much taniola i love you for your great video ; )
SportingTrabzon 1 year ago
i loooooooove traaaabzon
SportingTrabzon 1 year ago
vey vey nice video..perfect music and pictures too!!!!mpravo koritsara mou..na sto pw k ellinika.Sumfwnw apoluta mazi sou..sxetika me to sxolio sou parakatw!Telos thelw na sou pw pws xairomai polu pou afto to moutraki pou pou eida sto video skeftetai etsi!!!na sai kala neraidoula!!!!!!!!!
ANESTIS79able 1 year ago 3
E GORITSAM BOLA OMORFO ISE
halilson 1 year ago 3
you girls are really pretty im from giresun come again please ;)
mcakirtr 2 years ago 3
To ligotero pou exw na sou pw einai ena megalo euxaristw gia tis eikones pou mou edwses na dw.. Anatrixila..
BullDog84m 2 years ago 5
wonderful pics wonderful women !!!!!!!
ohhhh no please i am married re !
but a turkish word say it is not a shame to say a beauty when she is a beauty re !
wwwmobilstarde 2 years ago
Ich muss zurück nach Trabzon!
Ich bin stolzer Laz und sobald ích schule und ausbildung fertig hab gehe ich für immer nach Trabzon !
Tekiin61 2 years ago
wow! I just got the goose bumps...I'm from Turkey with a Circassian (kafkas mountain people) heritage.I live in U.S and heard some many stories about families being distanced for different reasons. That video clip made me say, "wow" ...that is deep...god bless!
caytek 2 years ago
There is a documentary comming out by a native, from my village zeleka (tasoren) in caykara, trabzon. As far as I can tell most people there call themselves "rumca" or "hellenic", but will refrain from using yunan (greek) to describe their identity. The documentary is about the lonlyness of the woman who remained there, after allmost all the men left between the 60's and the 80's.
ikilicoglu 2 years ago
let me clue you in on something. The Greeks of Greece also called themselves "rum" until the late 18th century when there was a national awakening and they started to call themselves by their old name "Ellines". Just because you don't want to call my people "yunan" does not mean we are any less Greek. btw, if you notice my last name, my family comes from the town of Bafra on the black sea, but we do not have a "B" in our language.
nickpafras 2 years ago
I said the people themselves dont want to be called Yunan. I didnt say we are not Greek, as I myself am Pontic Greek as well. We have Turkish names too, but I do not feel any need for Greek nationalism, or nationalism of any kind. My (Islamic-Greek) great-grandfather died in WW1 in the fight against the Russians, while Greek-Christians from nearby villages fought with the Russians against the Turks. That is why the villagers dont want to be called "Yunan", as for many it is the name of betrail.
ikilicoglu 2 years ago
Well, as I am sure you already know, Greeks do not consider Greek converts to islam as being Greek. Pretty much, a Greek can only be Orthodox. This is how our culture views it. This is why we deported Greek speaking muslims from Crete in 1923. lastly, Muslims do not deserve the name Rum because they are not part of the Rum-Millet. Only Christians may be part of that Millet. I do not care for nationalism either and I have nothing against Turks. I am just stating the facts.
nickpafras 2 years ago
@nickpafras so you kind of admit that you and your mind is at least as cruel as those people who force others to convert to another religion?
what a nonsense, youre proud of people being deported? deported from a place they called home? imagine how it must feel, imagine someone comes to you and forces you to leave home and its impossible for you to come back.
If this is what you think is God s will there u go ! But this is all paradox and only an abuse of religion in the name of fanatism
Deryaah08 1 year ago
Greek speaking muslim = Turk
This may not seem logical to you, but this is how we view things. Even if a Greek would convert to Islam in Greece today, everybody will call him Turk.
nickpafras 2 years ago
@nickpafras Yes, and I think hatred between Muslims and Christians is why the Greeks in Turkey dont want to be called Greeks, as they dont feel greek. We are Pontic-Greek though, if you like it or not. How do you want to create peace and respect if you can not even accept a Greek who is Muslim. This is truely very sad. I know the pain lies deep as the Christian Greeks view Muslim Greeks as betrayers and the other way around. But this is 100 years ago, we must move on now.
ikilicoglu 2 years ago
I mean, if you go to the villages you will know we are Greek. We dance the same dance, we speak the same language, we wear the same clothes, we eat the same food, we build the same houses, we live the same lives, we call our villages by the Greek name, etc. The only thing to break us apart was the war. I know for sure you will be welcomed if you come to Karadeniz, for there are tens of thousands of people just like you, that can understand you and will dance with you.
ikilicoglu 2 years ago
I am sure you are all very nice people and I have nothing against you. But you are not Greek. Being Greek is more than just a language or dances, it is a way of thinking. No self-respecting Greek would ever willingly call himself Turk or wave the turkish flag with pride. Trust me, I have nothing against you, I am just telling you Greeks think.
nickpafras 2 years ago
I will be honest with you. If you were Greek you would realize who your ancestors were and how they were a part of a ancestral line of people and that the only reason that you and your people are now muslims and speak turkish is because invaders from asia made you this way. that is the sad truth. And if they did not make you that way and you made yourself that way willingly, that is even worse.
nickpafras 2 years ago
btw, real "Rum" still fly the Roman eagle flag of Pontus. It is the Christian Greeks of pontus who are loyal to their ancestry and history.
nickpafras 2 years ago
Yes, yes, but as I mentioned I dont care about nationalism or religion. I am not muslim but atheist. I feel Greek, Turk, European, Asian and Human all at once. I dont care what others think about me. I hope you will respect me for this.
ikilicoglu 2 years ago
of course I respect your opinion. But it seems to me that you are stuck in between worlds and identities which seems like a consequence of trying to make proud Greek christians of Pontos who have been there for thousands of years into proud turks.
nickpafras 2 years ago
Hey guys, I think its time to make clear some things.. Everyone on this planet is free to feel as he\she likes.. have any religion he/she wants and call himself\herself as he/she likes! If ou feel Greek and Muslim its fine! If you feel Greek and Christian is fine too! If you feel Turkish and Christian is great! if you feel Turkish and Muslim is great too! There is nobody who says what is right and what is not what is true and what is false. Be whatever you feel you are.
Taniola 2 years ago 7
thats a nice sentiment but I disagree with you.
nickpafras 2 years ago
@Taniola I want to meet a Turk to worship Zeus..hahaha...FUCK THE MONGOLS.
technologicalsky 1 year ago
@nickpafras In Ottoman times, in a Muslim empire (more than a Turkish one per se), where people were defined by religion, it made sense. Today, in the age of nation states and nationality is defined in different ways, it doesn't really. How can we ever move forward if our heads are stuck in 1922? Even my grandfather was young then; our great grandparents did terrible things to each other, some of them died. We're alive, we have a new chance to do things better. Every good person is a new chance.
sazji 1 year ago