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  • Modern Bulgarian historiography claims that the Bulgar conquest of parts of Macedonia transformed the Macedonians and the Slavs in Macedonia into Bulgarians. The claim is quite ridiculous.

    a) There is NO recorded settlement of Bulgars in Macedonia

  • b) Because it was a temporary conquest it is impossible to imagine that the Macedonians suddenly "evolved" into Bulgarians. The case is identical with Serbia since the Bulgarian armies also conquered that country. The Serbians as we know did not turn into Bulgarians either.

  • c) The Romans held Macedonia for more than 12 centuries.

    Thus, since the Romans did not turn the Macedonians into Romans after 12 centuries it's more than unlikely that the Bulgarians could have turned them into Bulgarians after holding parts of that land over a miniscule period of time.

  • Modern Bulgarian historiography claims that the Bulgar conquest of parts of Macedonia transformed the Macedonians and the Slavs in Macedonia into Bulgarians. The claim is quite ridiculous.

    a) There is NO recorded settlement of Bulgars in Macedonia

  • b) Because it was a temporary conquest it is impossible to imagine that the Macedonians suddenly "evolved" into Bulgarians. The case is identical with Serbia since the Bulgarian armies also conquered that country. The Serbians as we know did not turn into Bulgarians either.

  • c) The Romans held Macedonia for more than 12 centuries.

    Thus, since the Romans did not turn the Macedonians into Romans after 12 centuries it's more then unlikely that the Bulgarians could have turned them into Bulgarians after holding parts of that land over a miniscule period of time.

  • YES, Dear history-less mongols,

    ==========================

    "If their (FYR, Slavs)  most recent (fake) history is removed, they will identify themselves as either Bulgarians or Serbs", he said.

    .

    Menduh Thaci, leader of the DPA,

  • Another fake video from a fake person

    .

    fact!

  • who said about you this...10p for correct A :)

    .

    "we are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians"

    FACT

    "We are Slavs. That's who we are!

    FACT

    We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia.

    FACT

    Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century (A.D)

    FACT!!

  • @MAlexandros1 GREEK GAY, IT'S TRUE THAT YOU ARE NOT RELATED WITH ALEXANDER AND MACEDONIA , GAYLLADA

  • Although Bulgaria was the first to recognize FYROM after its independence in 1991,

    it did only recognize the FYROM state, not the nation and its language.

    According to Sofia, Macedonia is no more than a geographical term, and the "Macedonians" are

    no more than “lost Bulgarians” through “historical accidents”

    FACT!

  • @trustmeU2needhelp HAHHAHAHA TATARS GO BACK TO MONGOLIA , HAHHHHH BIG JOKE , MACEDONIANS WERE BULGARS , :))))))

  • Message to Fyrom : You are Yugoslavian by birth and Bulgarian by heart.

  • Greeks are Eguptian Jews.

  • your video is sooooooo authentic and convincing...

    have you ever studied history???

  • Not again! Theese videos made by who? who is he? you dont know him but you belive him! Read the history of the real historians not the youtube videos which everyone can make easily! open your eyes! your mind... Greece is Makedonia :) what is this all about... ok you want the name? take it... but you never be Macedonians!

  • Македонците имаат своја wolt? не, вие сте робје и она што останува и ви се закитиле со историските грчко име Македонија. јаваат по ѓаволите на таков извор нивната планета!

  • @abobiso Who the fuck are you??? mistery man/woman

  • you are Slav Bulgarians not Makedonians, read history and stop with your lies !

  • I watched both videos but still no conclusive facts like the Greeks have. Ancient monuments of Macedonia were written in Greek, they worshipped Greek gods, took part of Olympic games....these are facts...the information in this video has no prrof just some words and information taken out of context

  • Part 2 also interesting! These are facts! Bravo!

  • MONKEYDONIANS SCOPIANS!!!!!!!

  • Why ALL the scriptures, coins, tomb stones found in Macedonia are in Greek?

    Why Macedonians had Greek names and not Slavic ones?

    Why Alexander the Great spread the Hellenic culture in the lands he conquered instead of the Macedonian one?

    Why the period after Alexander the Great

    is named Hellenistic not Macedonistic?

    Why you think so many (350) scholars are lying while you blindly believe in people

    with no academic credentials at all like mr

    stefov?

  • The truth is Macedonia was never historically Greek. Macedonia was forcefully invaded, occupied and partitioned by Greece, Serbia and Bulgaria during the 1912, 1913 Balkan Wars. After signing the 1913 Treaty of Bucharest, 51% of Macedonia was given to Greece, 36% was given to Serbia and 13% was given to Bulgaria.

  • This was done against the wishes of the Macedonian people who, since Macedonia's occupation and partition, have fought for their rights. Macedonians fought for their rights during World War II and during the Greek Civil War.

  • While the part of Macedonia under Serbian/Yugoslav control won its freedom and was declared a People's Republic of Macedonia in 1945 under the Yugoslav federation, the parts under Greek and Bulgarian control remained occupied and its people are without even the most basic human rights.

  • A very interesting video for a person with a Macedonian Father, and who is trying to learn about the land of that mans birth.

  • sco-sco-scopians!!!! sla-sla-slavians!!!!!

  • The Macedonians will not surrender to Greece`s political blackmail and cultural racist manipulations.

  • Also it's not hard to understand that the different hellenic tribes were fighting each other thanks to the way they were organised. They called it a hellenic war because it was amongst hellens. They called it the Peloponnesian war because the main conflict was there, not because some guy fought some Peloponnesians (rofl). And who on earth is that Miller. Check Ariannus of Nicomedia for instance.

  • Is considered this king(Philip) began his monarchy with the bad condifons and he conquered the bigger monarchy of HELLENES(Macedonia) increasing the hegemony no so much with the heroism of arms,as long as with the skilful handlings and his diplomacy.(Diodoros Siceliotis).

  • "Although the basic religion of the Macedonians was Greek as is shown by the names of the months and by the beliet that the folk descended from Macedon,son of Zeus and the royal family from Heracles.(Charles F. Edson).

  • Also because Alexandros is an ancient greek name, you should try and invent a modern name for him. Cause even by your username you refer to ancient greece. I am a modern greek, and the only proven fact to my relation to ancient greece is the evolution of my language (races etc are for fascism). Actually all european civilisation is based in ancient greece, so we all have the same relation to ancient greece, which means openness and enlightment. Be sure you re taking your pills

  • his name is ALEKSANDAR ! YOU STUPID GYPSIE GREEK NOT ALEXSANDROS . UNDERSTAND SOMETHING TODAYS SO CALLED GREEKS ARE A MODERN GREEK GYPSIE , A GROUP OF NOMADS THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT OR WOM THEY ARE, JUST LIKE THE PONTIANS ,SIMIANS,CRETIANS, ALBANIANS OF IPRIUS AND BULGARIANS OF THRACE. LISTEN TO THE NAME YOU IDIOTS !! MACEDONIAN KING !!! NOT GREEK OR HELLASS OR ELLINES OR ANY OTHER GYPSIE NAME JUST " KING OF MACEDONIA " !!! GREEK WILL NEVER BE MACEDONIANS AS MACEDONIANS ARE NOT GYPSIES !!

  • it's vain....... hush, hush. don't cry. what do they feed you up there?

  • the gypsies have a history that is three times yours. they started from india many years ago, and their proud of their customs and civilisation, cause they have such things. You re trying still to invent such things. It took you 50 years to persuade yourselves, but it is vain try to persuade others. Because there is a thing called scientific research, unknown to skopian universities, lacking classical studies and linguistics and modern history departments.

  • you persuaded us. all scientific facts!!! and what is the relation of the fyrom to ancient macedonia? probably cause you re short and ugly, and you named your horse voukefala, you re gonna tell us that you are a nephew of alexander the great!! you have been seccluded for many years and having difficulties to deal with neighbours!! Tito was a great personality, brilliand mind, a great manipulator. He invented you!! The modern macedonians!!

  • The difference between ancient Macedonians and the ancient Greeks is obvious. It is not a matter for debate. Language, customs, traditions and the every-day soldiers behavior, all point to two distinct and separate ethnic groups. In short, the ancient Macedonians were simply that Macedonians, and the Greeks were foreign people next to them.

  • Alexander-Αλέξανδρος= Αλέξω (send away or protect) + άνδρας (men).

    Philip-Φίλιππος= Φίλος + ίππος (Friend of the Horse - it is known that Philip had an obsession with horses). All the ancient scripts found are in Greek. They worshipped Greek gods and the Greek mythology has detailed information on how the Hellenic tribe Macedons was created. Ofc they had different customs, every singe hellenic tribe had different customs

  • Alexander speaks: "The Macedonians are going to judge your case," he said. "Please state whether you will use your native language before them."

  • [The Greeks of Boeotia, Sparta, Aechea, Peloponnese - "all of them subdued"; Alexander himself cleraly considers Greece subdued, not united]

  • "There is a report that, after the king had completed the Macedonian custom of marking out the circular boundary for the future city-walls with barley-meal, flocks of birds flew down and fed on the barley. Many regarded this as unfavorable omen, but the verdict of the seers was that the city would have a large immigrant population and would provide the means of livelihood to many countries." [p.69] [The Macedonians had their own distinct customs]

  • "Athenian" Chares with 2,000 of Persian soldiers fighting against Alexanders Macedonians. Another example of Greeks fighting against Macedonia. If this was a war to revenge Greece from Persia, Greeks would have not have fighting on the side of the Persians against the Macedonians. The truth is that they hated the Macedonians more for conquering Greece, then they did the Persians.]

  • Spartans fighting against Athenians,Spartans fighting against Messenians,Lokrians fighting against Phocians.Many facts of civil wars among Greek tribes.The most big civil war is the Peloponnesian War between Spartans-Athenians.Then,the Spartans asked help from the Persians.Learn Greek history and then you will understand the ways of Greeks.

  • Freedom or Death for Macedonia

  • This is the truth

  • Great video

  • The Truth about Macedonia. Exposing the Greek Lies and Professor Stephen Millers inaccurate Letter Petition to President Obama. The Truth as explained by the ancient chroniclers themselves.

  • Diodorus Siculus

    Ancient Greek Historian

  • [2] For many days the king lay helpless under his treatment, and the Greeks who had been settled in Bactria and Sogdiana, who had long borne unhappily their sojourn among peoples of another race and now received word that the king has died of his wounds, revolted against the Macedonians. They formed a band of 3000 men and underwent great hardship on their homeward route. Later they were massacred by the Macedonians after Alexanders death. 17.99.5-6.

  • Prof Miller HE MISS a point to READ a original Ancient BOOKS ! What kind of profesor hi is ! A fake one !!!!!

  • The new greek can sendhow many commentents they wiish but still they will has NO connectioon to ancietn greeks they are simply mexed bustert without NO genetical connection to ancient greeks !!!

    Macedonians NEVER helenic people accept thet yoyr PONTIAN gipsy busterds !

  • @ISTORICAR lololol yes greeks are not related to ancient greeks and...slavs are? LOLOVSKI, you are not informed about Pavian University studies which prove that todays greeks are related to their ancient ancestors

  • "Men of Athens ...if I no had in my heart interests of Greece would not have come to say. But My origin is Greek, and will not voluntarily want to see Greece exchange freedom for slavery.

    Alexander A' of amyntas

    Herodotus (History, 9.45)

  • that the Romans release the Greeks by the Macedonians are so untrue ... the Arcadians, the Messenians

    and other tribes were allies of the Macedonians

  • ATTENTION

    Stephen Miller's petition that was sent to Obama in order to reverse the Bush Administration's recognition of the Republic of Macedonia something unashamedly sought by Greece and Greek lobby groups. Since that petition was circulated, Miller was widely criticized. On June 22nd, Stephen Miller posted an update on his website where he stated that he is not calling on the US to reverse the recognition of the Republic of Macedonia.

  • macedonia to tha macedonians!!!vardar+aegean+pi­rin=republic of macedonia!!!death for greece!!!death for tatarija!!!

  • Prof. Millers miss this qoute ;

    Plutarch ; Life of Flamininus :

    ... The romans Didn´t come to fight against Greeks but FOR THE greeks AGAINST MACEDONIANS ....

    prof Millers -- YOU ARE NOT PROFESSOR you are only a fake ONE !!!

    Shame on you !

    The modern greece named a part of Macedonia as Maceonia after 1988 its veri ANCIENT for the new greeks and the FAKE PROF Miller !

    He do not look even as some "Miller "

    even your sirname Miller is FAKE !

    Macedonia never Hellenic !

  • Why is every greek fucken racist pig? Macedonia is NOT greece, or bulgaria, get it through your THICK FUCKEN SKULLS GREECE !! WE ARE NEVER GOING AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! even when your greatgreat great great grand kids DIE, we will still be here as MACEDONIA!!! FOR THE MACEDONIANS FOREVEEERRRR!!!!

  • hehehe Greeks show again their national inferiority complex.

    MACEDONIA TO THE MACEDONIANS!

  • The Truth as explained by the ancient chroniclers themselves.

  • i want to ask the idiot who made this video and his professor what's their opinion about Amphictyonic League??And something else...If the modern slavs of FYR know that in their era was the ancient Pannonia and not Macedonia?Why these modern Bulgaroslavs wants Macedonia and not Pannonia?It is obvious!Their x-leader Tito wanted exit to Aegean sea and its commercial advantages.The modern Bulgaroslavs are Tito's propagandistic remains.

    After all its all Tito's false

  • The European intervention which they demanded was to support only Bulgarian claims; autonomy for Macedonia was to be a half-way house to Great Bulgaria.

    -Edith Durham, The Burden of the Balkans (1905), p 221

  • oh brother u identified as bulgarians till 1944. how hard is that for you to understand? ur heroes stated ur bulgarian ur academics. ur fight to annex macedonia was part of a plan for Greater Bulgaria. now speaking bulgarian living outside of macedonia with slavic names u 'fought' for macedonia which has been proven greek for over 5 thousand years.

    ur grand parents identified as bulgarians. ALL RECORDS ON ELLIS ISLAND STATES SO as does the nobel prize winner Emily Green Balch. ur deluded

  • Greece for the first time in its history gained access to part of Macedonias territory in 1913 after the Second Balkan War. Never before did part of Macedonia belong to Greece nor was it under Greek control! .After that the region was renamed to Northern territories and this name was used up until August 1988 when it was again changed.

  • Look, you are a slav-you have nothing to do with Ancient Macedonians who were Greek! I am sorry that you are brainwashed. How does it feel to have to steel an identity because you have none!

  • LEts say that tito and comunist where magicians...

    and they got Time traveling machine to convince every revolutionery to fight for Macedonia in our near history (against turks)...to convince our grandgrand parents that they are Macedonians too :D

  • very good work .

  • Funnt enuogh historictruth1 can I see this petition.. Probably it doesnt exist =)

  • Obama has already signed a petition in the USA senate against Fyromian propaganda

  • historictruth1

    lägg av med din falska propaganda... sluta upp med dumheterna. Inse sanningen, grabben. Obama kommer att rösta för oss.

    Macedonia for the Macedonians

    Macedonia never Greek

  • Thats right................greeks are just stupid idiots with a lot of money to corrupt other people

  • My brainwashed slavobulgarians:

    WASHINGTON -- U.S. Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ) has introduced a resolution calling on the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) to stop using propaganda.

    The resolution also urges FYROM to collaborate with the United Nations and Greece to determine a mutually-acceptable name for itself.

    The resolution is co-sponsored by Senators Olympia Snowe (R-ME) and Barack OBAMA (D-IL)

    even obama has signed against your propaganda

  • The worlds historians , you ex primeminsters.USA's president. The whole world knows you are brainwashed ex communist victims.

    You have nothing to do with macedonia Your ancestors are Bulgarians.

    That is why you say Bulgarians words like Solun , you have Bulgarian culture language and music

    "We are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria themselves. "

    Krste Misirkov, "On Macedonian Matters", Macedonian Review Editions

    you hero wrote in Bulgarian

    poor people

  • A Robots response to 340 world famouse historians that all states ancient macedonians where Greeks. They also demands Fyrom to stop with propaganda like this. Read about them in:

    w w w . macedonia-evidence . org

    Poor poor slavoBulgarians

    ha h ha ha

  • what the fuck is this. Is this the Robot voice you can use in windows??

    ridiculus

    is this the best the slavoBulgarians have

    loooolski

  • മസിഡോണിയ (Masiḍōṇiya)

    மசிடோனியா (Mačiṭōṉiyā)

    馬其頓 / 马其顿 (Mǎqídùn)

    マケドニア (Makedonia)

    마케도니아 (Makedonia)

    มาซิโดเนีย (Māsidōniya

  • (Maqdūnyā) מקדוניה (Maqdônyah) מאסידוניה / Masedonia מאַקעדאָניע (Makedonye) Μακεδονία (Makedonía) Մակեդոնիա (Makedonia) მაკედონია (Makedonia) मैसेडोनिया (Mæseḍoniyā); मखदूनिया (Makʰdūniyā) म्यासेडोनिया (Mæseḍoniyā) মেসিডোনিয়া (Mesiḍoniyā) ਮੈਕਡੋਨੀਆ (Mækḍonīā) ಮೆಸಡೋನಿಯ (Mesaḍōniya)
  • (Maqdūniyā); مكدونيا (Makdūniyā)

    مقدونیه (Maqdūnīye); مکادونیه (Makādūnīye)

    ماسيدونيا / Masidunya

    مقدونیا (Maqedūniyā)

    مکدونيا (Makədoniyā); مقدونيا (Maqədoniyā)

    ماكېدونىيە / Makédoniye

    میسیڈونیا (Mæseḋoniyā); مقدونیہ (Maqdūniyâ)

    މެސިޑޯނިއާ (Mesiḋōni'ā)

  •  (Makidonja) Македонія (Makedonīja) Македония (Makedonija) Македони (Makedoni) Македонія / Makiedonija Македоний (Makedonij) Македоние (Makedonie) Македонија (Makedonija) Македон (Makedon) Македонија / Makedonija Мақдуния (Maqdunija) / مقدونیه (Maqdūniyâ) Македонія (Makedonija)
  • Maketonia

    Makedoniýa / Македония

    Makedonya

    Ma-xê-đô-ni-a

    Makedonän

    Makõdoonia

    Macedoneye

    Masedwaan

    iMakedoni

    iMakedoniya

  • Masidunya Makedoniya / माकेदोनिया Machedonia Macidonia Macedónsko Makadooniya Maqedonia Makedònia Macedonia; Makedonia Makedoniä / Македония Masedónia Masitōnia
  • Makêdonî / Македони / ماکێدۆنی Maķedonija Mazedonien / Mazedonien Makedônia Maċedonja Macedonia / Мачедония Masedoan Maketōnia; Makerōnia Macedonia / ماسيدونيا iMakhedoniya Makedonien / Makedonien Basse-Macédouène Macedónia / Macedônia
  • Masidoniya Makedońska Makedonujo; Makedonio Makedoonia Makedónia Masedoanje Macedonie Macadòinia; Masadonia An Mhacadóine / An Ṁacadóine Yn Vasseydoan Masedwan; Masedoni Makedonska Macedónia Masedọnia Makedonia / ماكيدونيا Makedónía
  • Македонија Macedonia Makedonia Macedonië Macedònia Makedonija Mazedonia Makedonien Macédoine Makedoniya / Македония Makedonya / ماکهدۆنیا Makedoniya / Македонија Maseduwani Makedonija / Македонија Makedonie; Macedonie Macedonijô; Macedońskô Mazedonien / Mazedonien; Makedonien / Makedonien
  • 1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum

    2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum,

    3) Greeks are found to have a substantial relatedness to sub-Saharan (Ethiopian) people, which separate them from other Mediterranean groups....

    ncbi.nlm.nih . gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retr­ieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=11260­506&dopt=Citation

  • Да живее Македонија !!!

    Браво Брат 5*****

    This is the real truth about Macedonia!!!

  • Macedonia for the macedonians!

    Odlicen klip!

  • prekrasno video bratu...cetitki...makedonija na makedoncite!!!vardar+aegean+pi­rin=republic of macedonia!!!macedonia will be united!!!solun will be the capital of macedonia,again!!!death for greece!!!death for tatarija!!!

  • Macedonia at all, Macedonia to India, Macedonia Fovever Macedonian !!!

  • There is one truth and one history!

    One MACEDONIA and Macedonian nation!

    We are Macedonians! United Macedonia forever!

  • Bravo brate !!!

    Nezamenliv si !!!

    Gi ubi ciganite so klipovite !!!

    DA ZIVEE MAKEDONIJA !!!

    SMRT ZA DUSMANITE !!!

  • Bravo Brat odlicno.

    Da Zivee Makedonija

  • bravo brat... gi zgasi ciganive so klipcinjata odlicno majstore 5*****

  • This is the real truth about Macedonia!!!

    Macedonia never Greek!!!

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